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00:02:42.000We also got on this show a fantastic guest.
00:02:44.000Dr. Drew Pinsky is with us, and we're going to be talking about... This is my favorite bit of the whole conversation.
00:02:51.000We're going to be talking about how he went from being an admirer, an adherent to Anthony Fauci, because they worked together, get this, around the AIDS pandemic, to being deeply cynical and suspicious of Fauci.
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00:04:34.000You know, it's like they're trying to make it about the culture because I think most people do respect the legitimacy of people to be different religions and cultures.
00:04:41.000I think most people are cool with that.
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00:05:00.000We'll let you watch the first part of our conversation, you wonderful people of YouTube, but this is a medical physician who's got strong views on a variety of subjects, including Anthony Fauci, so we won't be able to do the whole thing.
00:05:11.000You'll probably know Dr. Drew because he's been in media for years.
00:05:13.000He's a board certified physician and legacy celebrity talent.
00:05:17.000With over 35 years of national radio, New York Times best-selling books and countless telly shows bearing his name.
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00:05:35.000And as we were just starting to mention before the mics heated up, we were together a few years ago, we did a we did a speech together about recovery.
00:05:44.000And as I think about our last meeting, and then this one, I Many roads have been traveled.
00:05:51.000Would you have imagined the world would evolve the way it has?
00:05:55.000No, and the only people that did imagine it were kind of peripheral, zealous, fringe evangelists that were at the time regarded as conspiracy theorists.
00:06:08.000I always, you know, felt that in our conversations before because we're talking about medicine, we were talking about mental health, we were talking about addiction and wellness.
00:06:15.000I know that in our previous conversations we would have touched on the social implications of a condition like addiction.
00:06:21.000That addiction is somewhat related to social pressures.
00:06:25.000We may even have got as far as saying That the pharmaceutical industry possibly exploits addiction.
00:06:30.000We may not have been in a position to talk about Purdue and Big Pharma and the Sackler family and the way that the opioid crisis has been handled.
00:06:38.000But, you know, I know that's the kind of thing we would have touched on before.
00:06:40.000But as you say, we're in a very different territory now.
00:06:44.000From your perspective, Doc, what lines have been crossed and how is it we found ourselves here?
00:06:55.000So I've become a student of history because of this and much to my shock, but I think there's, I want to answer that two ways that are a little bit glib and a little bit just so.
00:07:06.000One is post-structuralism has taken a hold in this country in particular in a way that has been destructive.
00:07:12.000The idea of truth has been undermined, and the reality is there is a truth, and our goal should be to ascend to some approximation of truth.
00:07:21.000We've forsaken that, and that has bled into science and everything, so that's a problem.
00:07:29.000Number two, that's the sort of historical sort of note, but number two, you mentioned the Sackler family and the excesses of the opioid industry, But the real perpetrators of the opioid crisis were evangelical physicians.
00:07:44.000In this country and in the UK as well, pain medicine became this cudgel that went around and forced physicians, sound familiar now?
00:07:54.000Forced physicians to make pain the fifth vital sign.
00:08:14.000In this country, we have a Deborah Birx who evangelizes for lockdowns.
00:08:19.000An evangelical physician went state to state, governor to governor, and persuaded, frightened these governors that if they didn't lock down, they'd be killing people.
00:08:29.000Same phenomenon, same playbook, same disaster.
00:08:33.000It's interesting that we're talking about two subjects that both of which I'm fascinated by.
00:08:38.000The impact of post-structuralism and relativism.
00:08:40.000The idea that there perhaps is that there's a degree of ambiguity and look I'm sympathetic to the idea that there are institutions that have been deemed just and granted authority that could benefit from open-ended analysis.
00:08:57.000These are some of the areas of Poststructuralism, you know, not necessarily talking about semiotics and the semantic component of that, but certainly looking at power from an open-minded perspective.
00:09:09.000But also the idea that when you say evangelical physicians, it shows that there's a sort of component to prescribing medicine and issue in medical care that is emotional rather than practical.
00:09:26.000For sure, not only emotional but also social, because now we are having these movements in medicine where people are, you know, I was a scientist, I was a clinician, and the idea that we have social movements within medicine and focusing on things that are away, I mean, it's good that we're paying attention to these things, but that those are sweeping us away from science is really very, very concerning.
00:09:49.000Yeah, it's extraordinary, and I don't know how Or why that's happened?
00:09:54.000Because the post-structuralist idea, does that lead to the over-emotionalization of everything?
00:10:01.000I would have thought that it was quite an academic, quite cold, atheistic, materialistic, rationalistic ideology.
00:10:07.000And yet what we are talking about now is a type of hysteria within the medical profession.
00:10:13.000But the hysteria was, we were all, the world, much to my amazement, seemed to have been prone to this hysteria.
00:11:51.000And in the early, mid 80s, when I first started working at the psychiatric hospital, I would look at all the admitting forms, you know, patients coming in, and I would see there was always a window where we put in the personality diagnoses.
00:12:03.000And the psychiatrist would put in all kinds, I saw all kinds of things, dependent personalities, and obsessive compulsive, all the full spectrum of the A, B, and C disorders that you find in the DSM-5.
00:12:15.000I noticed toward the end of the 80s, all of a sudden I was seeing In the female, predominantly borderline.
00:12:22.000And by the 1990s, only cluster B. That's all we admitted were cluster B patients.
00:12:30.000And I thought at the time, if you remember I did a radio show back then, and I was talking to people, you know, by the hundreds every night.
00:12:39.000And all I was hearing about was childhood trauma, childhood trauma, childhood trauma.
00:12:44.000And the outcome of childhood trauma is commonly a cluster B personality, at least trait, if not disorder.
00:12:52.000Just to reiterate, because so that I understand properly cluster B, it would be, could you just tell me what the indicators are again?
00:12:59.000That's, that's the borderline narcissist, sociopath, and histrionic.
00:14:22.000What is on the ACE scale, which are adverse childhood experience scale, things like divorce, domestic abuse, somebody in the family in prison, somebody using substances.
00:14:32.000And if you have more than two of those.
00:14:34.000You're, and of course overt trauma and all those sorts of things we would think of as trauma, but in this world where families are decayed, where people are using substances, where there's a lot of violence and aggression, who isn't exposed to that?
00:14:45.000It's extremely common to be exposed to adverse childhood experience.
00:15:00.000And of course, of course, it's happening more than ever.
00:15:04.000The only period of history that I could find similar experiences of that kind of abandonment and neglect and abuse of kids was pre-revolutionary France.
00:15:13.000And I wanted to write a chapter in my book about that.
00:15:17.000And I was told by the editor was too speculative.
00:15:19.000I said, look, there's gonna be, I just don't know.
00:15:21.000I don't, there's gonna be guillotines.
00:17:08.000I feel that our values have become narcissistic, that even identity politics, and I'm sympathetic to the civil rights movements around each of the categories, but what I sense is that the individual has become the sort of apex of value, that what you are as a person and what you feel and what you want is the kind of summit of the social values rather than who we are as a member of a community, who we are as a member of a movement, or even a nation or a religion.
00:17:39.000I feel that that plays a part somehow.
00:17:43.000I mean, what are the first couple of steps of recovery from a substance use which is Letting go, not controlling everything, which means, you know, as many of my patients say, they feel like they're a piece of ass around which the whole world revolves.
00:18:12.000I don't know what that is for everybody.
00:18:14.000It's kind of magical to me to some extent, but I know that it's necessary for people to fully let go of their self-centric, whether it's white-centric or Eurocentric or whatever centric it is, they have to let go.
00:18:28.000They have to let go and be open to what the world has.
00:18:52.000The last time we were together, that's one of the things we sort of agreed upon with clarity, that there's something up.
00:18:57.000um how we fill that that emptiness I don't I don't to me that I don't claim to be the the carrier of that information but I do know we need to solve it yeah you're right because of course we were talking before about addiction and you were kind enough to help me with my book Recovery, I remember, and I went on your radio show or podcast.
00:19:20.000I can't remember what medium was flourishing at that time, but I do know that when we did the live event together, you, yeah, well, yeah, it was a print and we were talking about that.
00:19:30.000You agreed with my interpretation of the 12 steps is about having, as you've just described, a spiritual awakening and the support of a community.
00:19:39.000and ultimately being able to overcome the inclination towards the type of self-centeredness that you're describing in your cluster B diagnosis there.
00:19:48.000I want to interrupt you because I left out one thing that I was going to comment on your last construct of how you were describing the lack of connection.
00:19:56.000Lack of connection is really what you're talking about.
00:19:58.000Lack of connection to other, lack of connection to community, lack of connection to God, lack of connection to self, frankly.
00:20:37.000Don't stand on the stage and beat your chest and gnash your teeth.
00:20:41.000That is grandiose caring, that is narcissism.
00:20:44.000I'm glad you care, I want you to care about other people, but that is not going to help the present moment.
00:20:50.000In Christianity, I know that it's significant to do God's work privately and quietly and with humility so that it doesn't become performative.
00:20:58.000And I guess a component of the scapegoat in has become something that's often discussed, virtue performed publicly, the appearance of morality.
00:21:08.000And I was thinking about the culture at the moment.
00:21:10.000I was thinking, how are people getting it up, Dr. Drew, to talk about The Oscars or the Golden Globes when there is this immersive sense that we are in some kind of crisis.
00:21:22.000I was so fascinated to hear your diagnosis because it's one that I agree with because continually from a kind of from this odd globalist humanitarian perspective people will continually cite confidence statistics around well do you know more people have been pulled out of poverty than ever before and the standard of living this and this is better than ever and I always feel what I don't No, that's the reality a lot of people are living in.
00:21:44.000It feels like we're in a highly precipitous and dangerous moment in a massive crisis of meaning and this kind of shared psychopathy seems relevant.
00:21:58.000What does it mean to live a good life?
00:22:02.000And it may well be That these measures, these instruments that we measure economic well-being and people being pulled out of poverty, all that stuff you just referenced, is not relevant to the crisis of the present.
00:22:17.000I mean, it's always relevant, let's be fair.
00:22:19.000People need to be safe, they need to be able to, you know...
00:22:47.000They confuse a good life with happiness.
00:22:51.000And hedonic happiness is a dead-end street.
00:22:54.000is I'm sure you say Schopenhauer's you go from happy to wanting more happiness to happy to
00:23:00.000wanting more it's hedonic happiness is a is a dead-end street it's it's it's nice it's good
00:23:08.000but eudaimonic happiness as Aristotle called it is something that's much more nourishing
00:23:14.000and is the source of a good life so we have to just we have to each of us figure out what that
00:23:21.000meaning is for us and there's some you know people have thought about that for thousands of years and
00:23:26.000there are people that have suggested certain things we might return to some of that stuff perhaps
00:23:30.000Yeah, the inward generation of joy compared to the external application of pleasure is a confusion that seems to have been with us some time.
00:23:40.000I was chatting to someone about Epicureanism.
00:23:42.000They're sort of like Epicurus was kind of got associated with pleasure seeking, but someone explained to me recently, no, he wasn't about pleasure.
00:23:50.000And when we start talking about pleasure over joy and transient happiness, which is easily commodified, it's very distinct from The generation of independent joy.
00:24:05.000I'm of the opinion, and I may be wrong about this, but I've always noticed that real joy tends to be a shared experience.
00:24:13.000It's something that people have together, or at least it's amplified in such a way that it becomes more substantial when it is experienced with at least an other, if not many others.
00:24:26.000Yes, I think that's a fair assessment, although sometimes when I think of someone like Yogananda, like he's talking about there being an ever-present bliss that we're blocked off from because of layers of samskara and layers of injury, and I try sometimes to contemplate what does Christ, what's meant by the kingdom of heaven being within.
00:24:45.000So there's no doubt, I don't want to double down on the kind of individualism that you and I are both decrying, and I reckon that there's a certain joy that couldn't be derived from relationship and service, but The idea that what I'm trying to establish and explain is that as a recovering addict, the idea that pleasure is going to come from the outside, whether it's through sex or through food or through heroin or alcohol, that I can consume somehow pleasure rather than through service and good conduct.
00:25:15.000Through right conduct, joy will be generated as a byproduct rather than as the aim.
00:25:22.000Isn't right conduct something that is in short supply also?
00:25:27.000I just, you know, I always think it's kind of amusing.
00:25:30.000I mean, his first principle was, of course, that, you know, behave as though your behavior can be judged as universal principle, which is essentially another way of saying behave in such a way that people can see all your choices, as though there's a camera going at all times.
00:25:51.000OK, before you answer the next question, Doctor, I have to tell our beloved viewers on YouTube, we need you to join us.
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00:26:21.000You know, Pylon, excuse me, ain't it weird when the whole media responds with one voice as if there is one agenda to amplify and normalize the power, the agenda of the powerful?
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00:26:56.000So in particular, Doctor, do you consider that a seismic occurrence took place at the commencement of the pandemic and the regulations that were imposed and the attitudes around vaccine mandates?
00:27:10.000Was that a pivotal moment in modern history?
00:29:11.000Like you said, it became hysterical, it became political.
00:29:14.000They were unable to constrain themselves.
00:29:16.000There was a concerted legacy media effort to shut him down, to silence and smear and disgrace him.
00:29:22.000They dug up things from the past about him, his use of profane language.
00:29:28.000It was extraordinary how that was coordinated and it revealed a degree of authoritarianism that, as you said, Doctor, we assumed was Off the menu.
00:29:40.000Whether you're Democrat or Republican, we care about individual freedom and free speech.
00:29:44.000Well, no, that isn't what's happening anymore.
00:30:28.000So, you know, first you're the Jacobins, and then all the Jacobins got their heads cut off, and by the Sainte-Colette, and then Sainte-Colette and Robespierre got their heads cut off by the Royalists, and then the Royalists got put in prison by Napoleon.
00:30:49.000Doc, is this a good time for us to talk about the wellness company that are promoting and are partnering us with our content today that I believe you are affiliated with?
00:30:58.000We've already done a promo for the wellness company for the medical kits, where in the event of an emergency, you would have in your home necessary medicines, including the controversial prize winning Ivermectin, as well as a variety of other products.
00:31:14.000Can you tell us what that kit is and what in particular what your affiliation with it is?
00:31:19.000I'm a member of their chief medical board.
00:31:21.000There is a variety of physicians on that board with differing opinions.
00:31:25.000We're not all in complete unison on everything, but we all agree that the physician-patient relationship has been adulterated.
00:31:32.000We were just talking about Joe Rogan and how people tried to adulterate his relationship with his doctor.
00:31:38.000The physician is powerless in this country right now.
00:31:40.000So I am interested in empowering patients.
00:31:42.000They should have access to things that they know how to use, that are simple to use, that we can teach them to use.
00:32:24.000I think, look, my wife is lucky because, you know, if it's an after hours situation and her physician's unavailable, I can kind of step in and help out.
00:32:34.000It's not a great idea to treat your family, but there's certain things that are just so easy to use that people should just have.
00:32:41.000When people travel, I give them a batch of medicines.
00:32:55.000Right, so things like antibiotics, antiparasitics, medicines that are likely to be useful in the event of a variety of kind of common conditions.
00:33:55.000And I saw recently a Channel 4 documentary that, interestingly, were one of the companies that attacked me recently in conjunction with other legacy media organizations simultaneously.
00:34:04.000Working together on their investigation.
00:34:06.000When they were talking about excess death, they literally did an item on the news.
00:34:45.000They're being done well and properly and thoughtfully and non-hysterically.
00:34:50.000And we have to be open to any and all explanation.
00:34:54.000My own belief is, my suspicion is, I shouldn't say belief because it is science, my suspicion is we're going to find that the real culprit is the spike protein.
00:35:07.000And so the more exposure to spike, the more we're going to see difficulty.
00:35:11.000It's, it is clearly the pathogenic part of the virus.
00:35:16.000And of course, many of the vaccines, that's what we're creating to create the immune reaction is more spike.
00:35:23.000And maybe some people produce more spike than are something I will find out, but it is, it is going to be the spike, but the astonishing thing.
00:35:32.000Is that there are more people dying in this excess death pandemic than died in COVID.
00:35:39.000And yet we shut the world down for that.
00:35:43.000I'm not saying on any given day there's more people dying.
00:35:45.000I'm saying the cumulative effect of excess deaths persisting year in and year out, we're going to easily surpass COVID.
00:35:54.000And so why isn't there, forget the urgency, just Why is no country doing that?
00:36:01.000This is the astonishing thing to me, that the whole world shut down, the whole world became hysterical, and the entire world is ignoring this thing.
00:36:12.000Now maybe they don't feel it's the place of government, maybe it's the medical system that has to come up with that.
00:36:18.000And we take a long time to to cull through stuff, to come up with the evidence of what's going on.
00:36:23.000If you leave it just to the medical system, who's going to pay for the studies?
00:36:36.000Just to give you some information on the COVID inquiry in the UK, it's cost £145 million up until now.
00:36:42.000They're delaying the significant questions indefinitely.
00:36:45.000They've not said when they're going to continue the inquiry, but it will certainly be after the elections in the summer.
00:36:50.000So there's the kind of opacity that's defined investigations in your country as well.
00:36:55.000And obviously being a sceptical person, I can't help but think that some powerful interests are being served or protected.
00:37:02.000by the way that this is subsequently being handled.
00:37:05.000And on that subject, Anthony Fauci has gone from being a sort of a hero, very deliberately portrayed in that manner as well, from late night talk shows, holding dance numbers, and we're all invited to adore Anthony Fauci.
00:37:20.000He proclaimed himself as being the science, in inverted commas, and he also said publicly that people, when the right measures are imposed on them, will lose their ideological BS.
00:37:32.000I wonder if you think that irreparable damage has been done in the institutions that surround American medicine, the CDC, the NIH, etc.
00:37:40.000due to Fauci's conduct and some of the odd financial relationships around that time.
00:37:47.000Well, again, a lot packed into your questions as always.
00:37:50.000And I don't know about irreparable damage because they were adulterated and we didn't know it and thank God we know it now.
00:37:59.000So maybe we can do something about it.
00:38:36.000Number two, you mentioned how Dr. Fauci was a hero.
00:38:38.000Dr. Fauci has been my hero my whole career.
00:38:41.000He was the reason I got involved in radio.
00:38:44.000I was deeply involved in treating AIDS patients.
00:38:46.000And in 19 mid early 80s, when we were just starting to go from calling this thing grids to AIDS, he was saying, you know, you got to get out there.
00:38:53.000And we actually was telling us to go out and scare people.
00:38:56.000That's gonna be millions of dead, millions of dead.
00:38:59.000And I dutifully did that, and I scared the hell out of a whole generation of high school students that they were all going to get AIDS, and they were all equally likely to get it, and they had to use a condom.
00:39:28.000And I apologize if my participation that harmed people, but we really had a, you know, that was a deadly illness with a 100% fatality rate.
00:39:38.000Not a 1% fatality rate, a 100% fatality rate.
00:39:56.000Now, when this thing hit, You know the things that I got criticized for were obviously you know when you when things go viral you know I'm sure you've noticed it's never what you say it's always what somebody says you said it's never what you say and of course never and no one ever comes back go would you clarify that what did you mean never ever ever and if you try oh no you said no they keep saying something else about other than what you've said which then that goes viral it's just it's just insidious it's disgusting but there we are that's how things go viral
00:40:25.000And when things are viral on me, the one thing they always cut out of my comments was the thing I actually got wrong.
00:40:32.000Because the thing I actually got wrong was at the end of every comment, I would say, please just listen to Dr. Fauci, listen to the CDC.
00:40:39.000You can rely on these people to get us through it.
00:40:42.000And I believe that until Dr. Fauci was in front of our government and they asked him whether we should, whether, you know, Dr. Fauci, you've closed down church practices out of doors.
00:40:52.000Is it okay to go to a political demonstration?
00:40:55.000And he looked and he went, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:40:57.000And I thought, Oh, he's been adulterated.
00:41:25.000It's quite extraordinary and frightening, I would think, to be in a position where, necessarily, if you're a medical profession, you have to operate within institutions because institutions, when they're good, are the housing of expertise and accumulative knowledge.
00:41:41.000But institutions, when they are bad, are the vessels for corruption.
00:41:45.000And it seems like you've almost experienced that metastasis.
00:42:09.000I, during COVID, Journals, I read the journals religiously and carefully and all of a sudden during COVID, all the science went one direction.
00:42:38.000But Annals of Internal Medicine, about two years into COVID, finally started writing some articles that were About budesonide, and about fuvoxamine, and about, you know, alternative treatments for early COVID.
00:42:48.000I thought, oh, my annals of original medicine has returned.
00:42:51.000They're showing the full spectrum of what's out there.
00:42:55.000But, you know, remember that Danish study that showed that a small percentage of the initial rollout of the vaccine was responsible for 90% of the adverse reactions?
00:44:53.000This is an excellent study, well done, peer-reviewed.
00:44:57.000We did not observe a significant vaccine effect from the fourth vaccine dose, COVID-19 deaths, during a time with already very low absolute risk for outcome, meaning the vaccine had no effect.
00:45:08.000And they observe no individuals younger than 40 years died of COVID-19.
00:45:12.000So why are we getting vaccinated at all?
00:46:16.000For me, it seems like it was an extremely revealing period that I obviously come from a different world in many regards, though there were crossovers in our experience and some of our perspectives.
00:46:29.000But for me, the confirmation that you cannot trust authority, That various arms of the establishment work in conjunction in order to achieve favoured outcomes, that crises are utilised to impose power, that if there's an opportunity to introduce authoritarianism and generate profit, it will be taken.
00:46:47.000All of these sort of pre-existing biases, I would have to call them,
00:46:51.000appear to get like pretty significant ticks next to them over that couple of years.
00:47:52.000Yeah, in every protest movement you can rely on the French to take it to extremes.
00:47:57.000It's agricultural, we're dumping stuff in the street.
00:48:00.000Yeah, thank God for the French, you have to say once in a while, even as an English person.
00:48:05.000Yeah, it's become clear that the function of the media is to normalize and amplify the agenda of the establishment.
00:48:11.000That's a sort of a paradigm that, you know, whether that's to introduce a new piece of technology, a new piece of legislation, to shut down a piece of dissent, it's become something that's become prevalent and You can candidly state in this space now.
00:49:39.000And if you were a mouse right now, or rather mouses, if there's more than one of you, It has a 100% kill rate and of course there's a risk it might spill over into humans.
00:49:48.000So do whatever it takes to stop disease X or madness that must be stopped before it's too late.
00:50:05.000Chinese scientists, you know those guys, have created a new strain of coronavirus that has a 100% cure rate on mouses that they're testing it on.
00:50:14.000Gain-of-function research should continue at a pace to create a vaccine in case there is a new disease X?
00:50:20.000Or do you think they should stop doing these experiments because it has the potential to cause another pandemic?
00:50:27.000We are working now feverishly in laboratories on humanized mouses to ensure that we have a vaccine against you being corrupted and corralled by legacy media.
00:50:35.000We're not doing anything like that, but Chinese scientists are right now, apparently, working on new forms of coronavirus that have a 100% kill rate on little, tiny, potentially innocent, mouses.
00:50:45.000Do you think that after events over the last few years, we should look at whether or not gain-of-function research is as effective as is claimed?
00:50:51.000Do you want dual-purpose research continuing where they work on chemical weapons and vaccines simultaneously?
00:50:57.000Are you beginning to wonder if the cure might be worse than the disease and might even cause the disease?
00:51:01.000Are these legitimate questions to ask?
00:52:14.000We've been looking over this research all day, Nicole, and obviously, like you said, any time you hear about China doing some kind of COVID research, it does send off alarm bells.
00:52:48.000Is kids collapsing all over the place?
00:52:49.000What's causing all these children to collapse?
00:52:52.000There is some reason to be concerned about this, and you mentioned some of the symptoms that these mice in this lab in China have after they were tested with this new strain of COVID.
00:53:06.000Again though, for us, I think the biggest concern is What kind of research are they doing, and is there the possibility of another lab leak?
00:53:18.000Dr. Marty, who you heard from there, from Florida International University, she says she was actually on a special team with United Nations that would go into laboratories around the world and make sure that they're following protocols and not doing anything dangerous.
00:53:30.000And she said based on what she knows with the situation in China, which we don't know a ton about, but Based on the little information that we do have, she says she hopes that one of these teams will go in there and make sure that everything is being done safely.
00:53:44.000If you just have a little mooch about, see if it's safe.
00:53:46.000Because, you know, we did just have a little bit of a pandemic.
00:53:48.000And although the pandemic was pretty beneficial to the most powerful interests in the world, both financially and authoritarian structures that benefit from people being terrified and being out of luck.
00:53:56.000It would be good if we didn't have a disease that kills, what was the percentage again?
00:54:08.000Because again, when you hear China and you hear COVID and you hear mice and you hear new testing, it obviously gets a lot of people worried, Nicole.
00:54:27.000Chinese scientists have been experimenting with a mutant coronavirus strain that is 100% lethal in mice, despite concerns that such research could spark another pandemic.
00:54:35.000Scientists in Beijing, who are linked to the Chinese military, why are we seeing these connections between the military and research into vaccines?
00:54:42.000I remember when I first heard that stuff, I think from Bobby Kennedy, I was like, come on, mate, this can't be right.
00:54:47.000But just another one of those conspiracy theories that proves to be true.
00:54:51.000Just another piece of true information that will be regarded as misinformation that reminds you that when people are talking about misinformation, what they're talking about is information that's going to make you not be compliant.
00:55:01.000Scientists in Beijing who I mean, at this point, what is the upside?
00:55:11.000I mean, I know China's not a democracy, so they shouldn't hold elections on whether or not that should continue, but in your country, in our country, when we're spending $145 million on a basically aborted COVID inquiry, don't you think we should publicly and collectively decide whether or not we want this type of research to take place?
00:55:27.000Isn't that the very essence of participatory democracy?
00:55:30.000The mice had been humanized, meaning they were engineered to express a protein found in people with the goal being to assess how the virus might react in humans.
00:55:37.000Every rodent that was infected with the pathogen died within eight days, which the researchers described as surprisingly quick.
00:55:46.000It's not, like, supposed to be, like, a bit of a laugh that they're surprised by it.
00:55:50.000I expected them to die in a few weeks or eventually just escape into the streets of Wuhan, but to see them dead on the cage floor like that, I must say, it made us all chuckle.
00:55:58.000You couldn't see because I was wearing a mask.
00:55:59.000Actually, I don't know why I bother with this thing.
00:56:00.000The team were also surprised to find high levels of viral load in the mice's brains and eyes, suggesting the virus, despite being related to COVID, multiplies and spreads through the body in a unique way.
00:56:10.000It's not like a sequel, is it, where you want it to be, ooh, this one's a little bit better.
00:56:13.000He's got that jeweled glove on this time, Thanos.
00:57:07.000And the answer is, well, maybe they have learned something.
00:57:08.000That's even more terrifying, isn't it?
00:57:10.000Professor Richard E. Bright, a chemist at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, told DailyMail.com he wholeheartedly agreed with Professor Ballou's assessment.
00:57:17.000He added, the preprint does not specify the biosafety level and the biosafety precautions used for the research.
00:57:23.000I'll tell you now that every time I'm saying Ballou, I'm thinking bear necessities.
00:57:26.000And if I don't say it to you, I'm going to just keep thinking it.
00:57:32.000When he's doing his own scientific research, he only looks for the bare necessities.
00:57:36.000You can hardly say injecting pangolin in a humanised mouse's is bare necessities, is it?
00:57:41.000It's like much more prickly pawpaw territory, I'd say.
00:57:47.000The absence of this information raises the concerning possibility that part or all of this research, like the research in Wuhan in 2016 and 2019, that likely caused the COVID-19 pandemic, recklessly was performed without the minimal biosafety containment and practices essential for research with a potential pandemic pathogens.
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00:59:50.000According to the study carried out by the Beijing University of Chemical Technology, the virus was discovered in 2017 prior to the COVID outbreak.
00:59:57.000It was discovered in Malaysia in pangolins, scaly mammals that are known harbourers of coronaviruses and were heavily speculated to be the intermediate hosts that passed COVID from bats to humans.
01:00:08.000I also, when I see them, think they should be in that bar in Star Wars, threatening and solo.
01:00:15.000The researchers cloned the virus and stored multiple copes in the Beijing lab, where it continued to evolve.
01:00:20.000It's unclear when the newly surfaced study was conducted, but the researchers said it was possible the virus had undergone a virulence-enhancing mutation in storage, which made it more deadly.
01:00:30.000For the new research, 8 mice were infected with the virus, 8 were infected with an inactivated virus, and 8 were used as a control group.
01:00:36.000All mice infected with the virus died.
01:00:38.000They succumbed to the infection between 7 and 8 days after being infected.
01:00:42.000What is their fascination with eight mouses?
01:00:44.000Like, eight mouses, that's how many I think Moderna tested their new boosters on.
01:01:22.000The results suggest the virus infects via the respiratory system and then migrates to the brain,
01:01:26.000unlike COVID, which causes lower lung infections and pneumonia in severe cases.
01:01:30.000However, there have been examples of COVID being found in brain tissue of severely sick patients.
01:01:35.000Severe brain infections during the later stages of infection may be the key cause of death in these mice, the researchers said.
01:01:41.000They concluded, this is the first report showing that a SARS-CoV-2 related pangolin coronavirus can cause 100% mortality in HACE2 mice, suggesting a risk for GXP2V to spill over into humans.
01:01:52.000I'm saying that, as if they've just won a decathlon.
01:01:54.000And this is the first time we've successfully killed every single one of the mouses in this lab.
01:01:59.000Except there was one occasion, wasn't there, where you knocked over the whole damn cage and killed a lot of them.
01:02:06.000Thankfully the windows were shut that day.
01:02:08.000However, the original strain of COVID also killed 100% in mice in some studies, meaning the new results may not be directly applicable to humans.
01:02:25.000But don't know, there's another person to shut down, ruining potential chance of profits and fun, let's face it, over at those labs in Beijing.
01:02:32.000It was revealed in 2022 how similar research virus manipulation research was being carried out by Boston University.
01:02:38.000Researchers were found to have created a new COVID strain that had an 80% death rate among mice.
01:02:42.000It sparked nationwide debate about whether the experiments were an illegal form of research, known as gain-of-function, which involves purposefully making viruses more deadly or infectious to study their evolution.
01:02:51.000Well, I think that debate can be concluded now.
01:02:55.000That's exactly, literally, what it did.
01:02:57.000The Biden administration tightened the rules around such research in October 2022, but the definition of gain-of-function remains contested.
01:03:15.000Dr. Christina Park, a molecular biologist from the University of Michigan, said, the Chinese study was classic gain-of-function, whether they tell you it's or not.
01:03:21.000It's not classic, it's not even some variation, it's not some sort of riff.
01:03:24.000It's not some avant-garde new interpretation of it.
01:03:27.000It's classic, it's actual gain-of-function, like your mama used to make.
01:03:30.000Cornpot-style gain-of-function research, the proudest tradition.
01:03:33.000And every single one, have you noticed, of the scientists that's commented on this is like, well I don't think that's a good idea.
01:03:38.000None of them are going, oh, use edgy radicals.
01:03:41.000One of the Chinese researchers was Dr. Yigang Tong, who trained at the Academy of Military Medical Sciences, a Chinese military medical research institute run by the People's Liberation Army.
01:03:51.000He also co-authored a paper in 2023 with Batwoman.
01:04:05.000So these people doing this research worked with the people at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but you're worried that maybe the research here could escape like it did possibly at the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
01:04:15.000The only thing I will suggest is do make sure there are no wet markets anywhere near that lab in Beijing, because those bastards sell avia.
01:04:22.000Although if Dr. Tong needs a grant, I know Anthony Fauci's got a few quid that he's looking to spend these days.
01:04:48.000If 100% of mouses are dying of this new COVID-like virus, and there's connections between the labs where they're doing it and the Wuhan Institute of Virology that was likely the source and cause of the COVID-19 pandemic, doesn't it suggest that there should be a little bit of public discussion, even some public engagement, as to whether or not gain-of-function research regard?
01:05:06.000Hey, well you say gain-of-function research, we say potato.
01:05:10.000It's clear that what you're doing is creating dangerous viruses in laboratories and they're not being entirely cautious as to whether or not they escape.
01:05:16.000And I'm frankly not in the mood for another pandemic just yet.
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