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00:00:32.000It would be impossible for me to love you any more than I do right now.
00:00:35.000You are the very vision of perfection, if you ask me.
00:00:38.000We're going to be talking about Trump ignoring the Republican debates.
00:00:41.000He's going to talk to Tucker instead, and we've got some exclusive news about Rumble.
00:00:45.000But first of all, let's have a look at that moment where Trump got so hot and sweaty on the telly that he knew that it will be picked up by mainstream media.
00:00:55.000And before we show you that, if you're watching us on YouTube right now,
00:00:57.000we will be exclusively on Rumble in just 15 minutes, because we're going to speak so freely about Moderna and
00:03:07.000So when he was dealing with his son's energy business interest, business energy interest was Ukraine and China, where Trump said, as a matter of fact, on a live debate, your family's been paid millions.
00:03:18.000Joe Biden said, that's absolutely not true.
00:03:30.000But I'll tell you what, one of the reasons he's probably sweating is he's sweating because he doesn't want to debate the other primary candidates.
00:06:17.000Don't talk about the amounts of people sweat.
00:06:19.000I suppose when Trump continually preempts and predicts things that will happen on the mainstream, or is able to declare publicly that Hunter Biden's business dealings are shady, or at least lead to millions of dollars in revenue, they've not been proven to be shady yet.
00:06:33.000Perhaps because the person that's investigating them is Pal of Moderna.
00:07:16.000Purple Revolution says, I deeply respect Jordan Peterson on many things, but he does not seem to be able to wrap his mind around the 100 year What do you think?
00:07:26.000Why don't you get involved in that conversation?
00:07:27.000And I would suggest, in a loving way, because free speech is being attacked, curtailed, and closed down in myriad new ways.
00:07:34.000Whether it's the WHO's rules there over on YouTube, their community guidelines will be expanded to include all medical matters.
00:07:41.000And if you're one of our 6.5 million Awakening Wonders over there, in order to maintain free speech, after just a few more minutes, we're going to slink off into rumble.
00:08:18.000And even if they are elected, what does it mean for ordinary people who care about America?
00:08:24.000Seems to me that you get an institutionalized, donor-led political establishment that can't respond to the will of the very Americans that apparently elected it.
00:08:35.000He is the advisor to Bernie Sanders and head of non-profit More Perfect Union, an organization that champions workers' rights and their voices, which is obviously extremely important.
00:08:48.000All right, Russell, I'll try to match your energy.
00:08:50.000I'm not sure I can, but good to see you.
00:08:52.000I'm actually exhausted just from watching Bobby doing those fingertip pull-ups.
00:08:56.000What do you feel about the state of the party that I assume you align with?
00:09:01.000Of course, because of their attitude to unions, the way they reneged on their commitment during the East Palestine crisis, the way that Joe Biden publicly claims to be the friend of the unions, while in practice does very little to help ordinary working Americans.
00:09:15.000And more broadly, how do you feel about a Democrat party that seems married to legacy politicians, from the Clinton dynasty in particular, and unwilling to respond to what seems to me to be a huge appetite for real change?
00:09:30.000Frustrated, but I'm involved in this effort to stay invested in the system, Russell.
00:09:35.000Like, I'm here to try to make it better.
00:09:37.000Like, if you get cynical and you get depressed and you just start to say, oh, everything's bullshit, we're done with this, it leaves you in a place of anarchy.
00:09:44.000And so we've got a two-party system in America.
00:09:46.000Bernie Sanders ran in the Democratic Party to try to change What he saw as the best vessel to care about working people in America.
00:09:53.000You could debate them and argue with them that the Democratic Party is better than Republican one.
00:09:56.000I still believe that that is the case.
00:09:59.000But yeah, you got to be realistic that is it what we want?
00:10:02.000No, but I'm invested in trying to make it better.
00:10:05.000I understand that, and I actually deeply respect it as a matter of fact.
00:10:09.000But Bernie, of course, was independent for the longest of times.
00:10:12.000Do you feel that what's happened to Bernie ever since he's become a member of the Democrat Party demonstrates the efficacy of bipartisan politics, or exactly the opposite?
00:10:21.000Russell, isn't that what happens anytime you get involved in trying to transact power?
00:10:26.000You make a decision that you have to engage in the institutions as they are, and they do by their nature.
00:10:32.000A lot of the status quo is corrupting of a kind.
00:10:34.000You have people who take money from big donors.
00:10:38.000You have people willing to cater to corporate lobbyists.
00:10:41.000And then here comes Bernie as an iconoclast saying, I don't give a shit about any of that stuff,
00:10:45.000but I got to work with these bastards who do.
00:10:46.000I got to work a way to transact a paid sick days or minimum wage increase or whatever it might be.
00:11:01.000It's messy in here, but you can't stay outside of it and assume you're gonna get anything done.
00:11:06.000To my views, people have to get it into the sandbox and try to fix the damn thing.
00:11:10.000Whilst Bernie was willing to confront publicly Moderna on the basis of their profits, and I'd be fascinated to learn what his views are on this $400 million NIH payout, Bernie has been willing to vote alongside Joe Biden, broadly speaking.
00:11:25.000And in a sense, hasn't he been not just, I would say, sort of compromising with the Democrat pie, but entirely subsumed into his agenda?
00:11:34.000What good is Bernie able to do when he votes alongside Biden when it comes to funding this war in the manner that it has been?
00:11:41.000And where are you seeing meaningful change brought about by the compromises you're describing?
00:12:27.000And I think you do have generally a Republican Party that doesn't believe that we want to invest in government doing these kinds of things.
00:12:35.000I mean, if you take, like, Medicare price negotiation right now, you've got four drug makers and Chamber of Commerce and Pharma all filing lawsuits saying it's unconstitutional.
00:12:44.000You can't lower prescription drug prices.
00:12:47.000And you're like, okay, well, there's a choice there.
00:12:50.000And I'm very much on the side of, yeah, we're going to negotiate drug prices down.
00:12:54.000You mentioned Moderna, and Bernie hauled the CEO of Moderna into that committee hearing, said, you know, they jacked up the price of COVID vaccine by 400%, charged American taxpayers billions of dollars to create the vaccine, screwed basically public investments, said, we don't give a damn about you.
00:13:10.000The question of this day and age is, are you willing to stand up to corporate power?
00:13:28.000I want more of those types of Bernies.
00:13:30.000Unfortunately, there aren't many of them.
00:13:32.000From our chat now Faz, Purple Revolution says Bernie Sanders is largely seen as a sellout these days and I think that's someone that would broadly speaking being a fan of 2016 Bernie.
00:13:44.000Miles Driver says anarchy has a bad rap.
00:13:46.000I think that's because of the sort of constant correlation of anarchy with disorder rather than a truly democratic and decentralized model.
00:13:55.000And Pride Folks says the system Why do you think prominent progressives like AOC and Bernie won't endorse Cornel West despite his obvious emphasis on progressive ideals?
00:14:14.000I think for all of the concern that they have about a Democratic Party that they don't find is standing up against corporate power and standing up for workers enough, it's a better choice than one in which you have a two-party system, so the choice is this Democratic Party or Trump-led Republican Party.
00:14:28.000If a third party like Cornel West or anybody else enters the fold, In my view, and people can feel free to disagree with it, it just facilitates one or the other.
00:14:38.000And I think you've got, in that case, Trump having a very hardcore base of people who I don't think leave him.
00:14:45.000So then you're, I think, pulling votes from a Democratic Party and enabling Donald Trump.
00:14:49.000When you, I know loads of people in here just absolutely adore Donald Trump because they precisely believe that he is the anti-establishment voice and with every rolling indictment they just see that as a sort of a further medallion on his credentials as an anti-establishment figure and I feel like when a democrat party plainly operates at the end of a string pulled by a donor class when Joe Biden says to a room full of donors nothing's gonna fundamentally change if you elect me In a sense, they're right to opt for a berserker candidate,
00:15:20.000whilst I strongly believe what's required is systemic change and I don't think there's
00:15:24.000anyone in the political landscape except - you know, I love RFK, I love Cornel West, I was
00:15:28.000inspired by Bernie in 2016, and I recognise, Faz, that you know a lot more about this stuff
00:15:34.000than I do, but what's required is a kind of marriage between the radicalism of independent
00:15:39.000media and political spaces like this one, and meaningful change within the system.
00:15:44.000Now one area, Faz, where you are plainly committed, based on that Unions for All banner or t-shirt
00:15:50.000that's in frame, is rights for workers.
00:15:55.000How do you advocate for unionism and unions to our audience here?
00:16:02.000Can you tell us about some of the successes?
00:16:16.000What else should we do to support the union movement?
00:16:19.000See, you know, this time, massive income inequality, the only way in which people get their fair share of workers, they have to organize in solidarity and fight for it.
00:16:27.000And we've got class warfare in this damn country.
00:16:29.000It has been the rich class dominating and controlling a working class.
00:16:34.000And unfortunately, the elites have driven the working class to a place where the only way in which you can get anything is with a damn fight.
00:16:41.000And so unionization in this country, although it could be more amicable and peaceful, I wish it were, that you could have peaceful labor-management relations right now, we've gotten the middle finger from most corporate CEOs towards the working class, the working class saying, hey, take a look at UPS workers, right?
00:16:55.000They just say, we have to threaten to strike.
00:16:57.000United Auto Workers right now, they're right in the midst of a contract, they're threatening to strike.
00:17:00.000Hollywood workers right now, actors, writers, all On strike because they know, I mean, we all felt it during the pandemic.
00:17:07.000You saw rich getting richer, you felt contempt towards working people, contempt towards essential work, contempt, dishonor, disrespected for the fact that you were putting yourself out there.
00:17:17.000And now the only way in which you can do anything to improve your lot in life is take matters into your own hands.
00:17:25.000Say, hey, in this damn Starbucks here, in this damn Staten Island warehouse here, in this Apple warehouse, we are going to Talk to our colleagues and demand more.
00:17:35.000And thankfully, in this last two years, we've seen a rise of that.
00:17:38.000You get Trader Joe's, you have, as I mentioned, Apple and Starbucks, Amazon.
00:17:41.000But they're not getting first contracts because the domination of the corporate sphere is unbelievable.
00:17:47.000It's not only of the economy, it's of the political class.
00:17:49.000So there is not a fight and people just don't talk about these damn things.
00:17:53.000You know, the whole purpose of a union and worker solidarity, Russell is like, What is the purpose of life?
00:18:00.000Is life just to generate profit or is it to have a sense of meaning and accomplishment, to feel respected, to feel like I do something purposeful and then I get paid for it?
00:18:08.000And we've lost that thread in civic society.
00:18:14.000And I agree with you that decentralised and democratic models and control over workspaces and a life of meaning that goes way beyond what you have to do just to survive in the face of a nihilistic and increasingly amoral cultural environment is an important part of that.
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00:18:34.000Join us over on Locals and you can ask whatever questions you want And I'll do my best to get through as many as I can.
00:18:41.000What do you think, Faz, about the alleged corruption between Hunter and Joe Biden when it comes to his business dealings with Burisma?
00:18:47.000What do you think about the way the Democrat establishment kept those things off of social media?
00:18:52.000And how can we restore any faith when there's, you know, in particular, just relating to this story?
00:20:07.000Because he's like, no, my service is to be for the public and I can't, I won't be compromised by owning stocks and making money off of that.
00:20:14.000So you end up becoming one of the poorer senators.
00:20:17.000But his values are not reflected in the way Hunter goes about his, And so, you know, it's a travesty, but I also think there's a little bit of a both sides-erism there, Russell, to be honest with you.
00:20:28.000It's like, you know, is Hunter making tens of millions of dollars as bad as, you know, X, Y, and Z?
00:20:35.000And you see these kinds of like apples and apples types of comparisons that don't really line up, but it's bad, right?
00:20:42.000Baz, I really admire your determination to do something positive within the system, and I strongly support the work you're doing to get workers to organise and unionise and take power back into their own hands, because I agree with you, the establishment elites aren't going to do anything about it.
00:21:00.000I obviously don't agree with you about Joe Biden, you know, because I just, I've been sort of blown away by the level of corruption that I've witnessed, but I completely obviously respect your perspective.
00:22:19.000Bullshit, like, rancorous, partisan disagreements that are nonsense, but just, like, honestly, having an honest conversation is so hard to have now.
00:22:25.000I agree with you, Faz, on so much, and thank you very much for taking the time, unlike many people that are part of the establishment that you are, you know, whilst being critical of, you are being optimistic about.
00:22:36.000I respect that very much and I appreciate you coming on Many Switches Switch On Switch Off (x4)