Stay Free - Russel Brand - FFS…SLEEPY JOE RUNS AGAIN! | Plus Tucker Latest - #115 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

00:00:00.000 Yeah, enjoy your life.

00:00:15.000 Enjoy it.

00:00:15.000 This is your life.

00:00:16.000 You're living. 1.00

00:00:17.000 You're lunatics. 1.00

00:00:18.000 This is Stay Free with Russell Brand. 0.99

00:00:20.000 and streaming live.

00:00:22.000 Hello, Bandana Shiva.

00:00:30.000 I Are you the new Snowden?

00:00:32.000 Are you?

00:00:34.000 Join us not for more of the same but for more of the different

00:00:42.000 Until then, stay free.

00:00:45.000 Yeah, enjoy your life.

00:00:47.000 Enjoy it.

00:00:47.000 This is your life.

00:00:48.000 You're living. 1.00

00:00:49.000 You're lunatics. 1.00

00:00:50.000 This is Stay Free with Russell Brand. 0.99

00:00:52.000 We're streaming live.

00:00:56.000 Hello, Van Dyne Achiever.

00:01:03.000 Are you the new Snowden?

00:01:05.000 Are you?

00:01:07.000 Join us not for more of the same but for more of the different

00:01:14.000 Until then, stay free. 0.78

00:01:16.000 I'm a black man. 0.85

00:01:18.000 I'm a black man.

00:01:20.000 Every race they could not understand. 0.99

00:01:22.000 I'm a black man.

00:01:24.000 And I could never be a veteran. 0.53

00:01:26.000 On this race, you wish to prove.

00:01:28.000 I brought a whole team.

00:01:31.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:01:38.000 Live all over that internet, we are bringing you Stay Free with Russell Brand because you

00:01:52.000 are officially an awakening wonder.

00:01:54.000 You have rejected systemic groupthink.

00:01:57.000 You are not willing to live within their world of delusion anymore.

00:02:01.000 You are awakening.

00:02:03.000 You are wonderful.

00:02:05.000 You deserve a new elderly president That basically works for the financial industry and the military-industrial complex who basically got the CIA to lie for him. 0.95

00:02:17.000 Allegedly.

00:02:18.000 Who basically, like any of us would, got his son a good job at Burisma.

00:02:21.000 Right.

00:02:22.000 I'd get my kids a good job at Burisma.

00:02:23.000 Yeah, your daughters are a bit young at the moment.

00:02:26.000 I've already took them to Ukraine.

00:02:27.000 Give these guys a job at Burisma.

00:02:29.000 Allegedly.

00:02:30.000 They are too young.

00:02:31.000 Plus we have war.

00:02:33.000 Proxy war.

00:02:34.000 We are important contributors to proxy war.

00:02:38.000 We have to bring you the truth now, now that Tucker Carlson's been taken down by the mainstream.

00:02:43.000 Now that Don Lemon's gone, who else is gonna bring you the truth?

00:02:46.000 Let us know in the chat there who you think is gonna be... We already lost Stelter.

00:02:51.000 I mean, come on.

00:02:52.000 I'm still grieving Stelter.

00:02:53.000 I know you are.

00:02:54.000 Oh my god!

00:02:55.000 Come on, Joe Rogan!

00:02:58.000 Like, you can do Stelter just by simply moving your voice to the centre of your face.

00:03:03.000 I liked it when he turned up at Davos, didn't you?

00:03:05.000 Yeah.

00:03:06.000 What I like about Stelzer, Brian Stelzer, formerly of CNN, he's so shiny.

00:03:10.000 He's very shiny.

00:03:11.000 He's a shiny guy.

00:03:12.000 Very round face.

00:03:13.000 You've got to burn to shine. 0.99

00:03:14.000 You've got to burn to shine, baby.

00:03:17.000 That's Brian Stelzer's motto.

00:03:18.000 He's been commenting on this quite a lot.

00:03:20.000 What, what?

00:03:21.000 About, not on Biden, on, you know, people getting fired.

00:03:24.000 Can't you see?

00:03:25.000 Sometimes your news just hypnotise me.

00:03:28.000 Anyway, we're going to be talking, guess who we've got on?

00:03:30.000 Go on.

00:03:30.000 Saga and Jetty is coming on, out of Crystal and Saga, breaking points.

00:03:35.000 Saga's coming on here, and he used to work for Tucker.

00:03:35.000 Yep.

00:03:39.000 He's going to give us the inside scoop, but as you know, I've peed in Tucker's garden.

00:03:43.000 That is not a euphemism, and I know that a lot of you don't like Tucker, but I've met Tucker, and he's actually an extremely kind, nice person.

00:03:50.000 That's my personal take on him.

00:03:53.000 We're going to be talking to Saga Saga Saga about Fox, CNN, and who will be the next Old stooge in charge of distracting you from the way that power fundamentally operates, regardless of which political party you either vote or don't vote for, while you're prevented from awakening to the possibility of new independent political movements that actually represent you.

00:04:19.000 But you could be mistaken for thinking that Joe Biden makes a difference.

00:04:22.000 If you watch his propaganda, it's not the nicest propaganda.

00:04:26.000 We actually, Gareth and I... I went out and voted Democrat after this.

00:04:29.000 I've done several votes.

00:04:30.000 I used those definitely not faulty, and that's been proved now, definitely not faulty Dominion machines to vote several times for Biden.

00:04:38.000 I just kept voting and voting.

00:04:41.000 I like him.

00:04:42.000 I think that he might, somewhere in them old bones, might be an answer.

00:04:46.000 Some people are pointing out that the dog Bear is here.

00:04:48.000 Dan, have you got a good shot of Bear?

00:04:50.000 Feel free to roam, Dan.

00:04:51.000 Roam around.

00:04:51.000 Get on your feet.

00:04:52.000 Live life.

00:04:53.000 Show the gallery.

00:04:54.000 Express yourself.

00:04:55.000 This is life, baby.

00:04:55.000 Enjoy yourself.

00:04:57.000 This is not outside of life.

00:04:59.000 This is your life right now.

00:05:00.000 Who are you going to vote for?

00:05:03.000 BlackRockSuesItself says Purple Revolution in the chat.

00:05:06.000 If you want to join us in the locals chat, we see what you're saying down there.

00:05:09.000 We love you.

00:05:10.000 Tucker will be an awesome voice.

00:05:11.000 So much respect says Deccanu.

00:05:12.000 PeaceLoveLight says I vote for us.

00:05:15.000 Well, if you do vote, use a dominion machine.

00:05:17.000 They demonstrably palpably work.

00:05:19.000 Or do a mail-in vote.

00:05:20.000 Do a couple, whether you're living or dead.

00:05:23.000 It's easy.

00:05:24.000 No, I'm not saying that there's been electoral fraud because I'm saying all election is a fraud

00:05:29.000 because whoever you vote for or don't vote for, you are going to get the military industrial complex.

00:05:33.000 You are going to get big pharma.

00:05:35.000 You are going to get a corrupt and biased media.

00:05:37.000 You are going to get what you're told unless you're willing to awaken.

00:05:40.000 And that is why I love you because you put your awakening first.

00:05:43.000 You didn't let them beat you down.

00:05:45.000 If you didn't let them make you dumb, you didn't let them lie about you, that's why you are with us.

00:05:49.000 That is why we are currently now uprising all around the world for decentralised democracies running our own communities, transcending beyond the culture war, refusing to yield to their hate. 0.95

00:06:00.000 Isn't he a good dog?

00:06:01.000 Isn't he a good dog, though?

00:06:02.000 Yes, he is.

00:06:03.000 Yes, he is.

00:06:04.000 Do you think you're people?

00:06:05.000 Yes, you do.

00:06:06.000 He's got a tick on him.

00:06:06.000 It's so hard to get those ticks off him.

00:06:08.000 Anyway, let's get into Biden's candidacy video, because let this propaganda seep into you.

00:06:14.000 Let it seep into you.

00:06:15.000 Take a shower in the propaganda.

00:06:16.000 We're going to look at how the mainstream media are either covering or not covering this stuff in a minute.

00:06:21.000 When we do mainstream media, we're going to go live to see what they're up to.

00:06:25.000 It's always fascinating, isn't it?

00:06:26.000 OK, let's look at this propaganda.

00:06:32.000 January 6th!

00:06:33.000 January 6th!

00:06:35.000 What happens after January 5th?

00:06:37.000 January 6th happened!

00:06:39.000 Some people doing a thing!

00:06:43.000 Some people died later!

00:06:48.000 No?

00:06:48.000 Too risky?

00:06:49.000 Might be.

00:06:49.000 We're on YouTube.

00:06:50.000 Uh-oh! 0.94

00:06:51.000 Watch out now!

00:06:52.000 None of those things actually were said by me.

00:06:55.000 Definitely continue to trust the mainstream media.

00:06:58.000 Continue to believe that the centralised political establishment is operating on your behalf.

00:07:04.000 I mean, watch this!

00:07:05.000 You can see how much they care.

00:07:06.000 They've made a video for you.

00:07:08.000 These guys will help.

00:07:14.000 Freedom.

00:07:16.000 Oh, freedom, is it?

00:07:17.000 Okay.

00:07:19.000 Personal freedom is fundamental to who we are as Americans.

00:07:23.000 Surveillance.

00:07:24.000 In February, the Biden administration urged Congress to renew a warrantless surveillance law that allows the government to collect messages and phone data of Americans without a court order.

00:07:35.000 Freedom!

00:07:38.000 Sweet freedom!

00:07:38.000 Let's have a look at some more propaganda.

00:07:41.000 Nothing more important.

00:07:42.000 Nothing more sacred.

00:07:44.000 That's been the work of my first term.

00:07:46.000 To fight for our democracy.

00:07:47.000 This shouldn't be a red or blue issue.

00:07:51.000 To protect our rights.

00:07:52.000 To make sure that everyone in this country is treated equally.

00:07:56.000 Incarceration.

00:07:57.000 Biden pledged he'd cut incarceration in half during his administration.

00:08:01.000 The federal prison population has grown for the first time in a decade.

00:08:05.000 Freedom!

00:08:07.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:08:09.000 It'll be at the end of the sentence.

00:08:10.000 Read along with me.

00:08:11.000 You'll see when it's coming.

00:08:12.000 Have a look at the gallery, Dan.

00:08:13.000 Have a look at the gallery.

00:08:14.000 That's right.

00:08:15.000 Move around.

00:08:15.000 You're not Wes Anderson.

00:08:16.000 You don't have to have everything perfectly framed.

00:08:19.000 Move about a little bit.

00:08:20.000 A little bit of ambience, for Christ's sake.

00:08:22.000 That's it.

00:08:22.000 Enjoy yourself.

00:08:24.000 Let's go back to the propaganda.

00:08:25.000 Everyone is given a fair shot at making it.

00:08:30.000 But you know, around the country, Maggots Trying to balance fear and optimism simultaneously. 0.89

00:08:37.000 They've still got the heritage of deracinated hope from the Obama campaign.

00:08:42.000 Hope that's not really tied to anything particular.

00:08:44.000 Certainly not tied to policy.

00:08:46.000 You just want blind optimism.

00:08:48.000 I'd say blind optimism rather than hope.

00:08:51.000 But they're still using fear.

00:08:53.000 The fear is there's an opponent.

00:08:55.000 They are, I reckon, backing the idea that fear will mobilise their voter base more than optimism.

00:09:03.000 You reckon that's right?

00:09:04.000 Well, from the basis of this, you would say so.

00:09:06.000 The propaganda, this propaganda has been subject to analysis.

00:09:10.000 So you know, this is what they think of you. 1.00

00:09:12.000 They think, basically, you can tell, that you're a bloody idiot. 1.00

00:09:15.000 That's the main thing that they think. 1.00

00:09:16.000 Did you get shots of that gallery, Dan?

00:09:18.000 Did we cut it in there?

00:09:19.000 Let me have a look at them.

00:09:20.000 No, no, we'll do a bit more of this video.

00:09:22.000 OK, also, look at this.

00:09:24.000 While we're on the subject of Biden's freedom fighting, cutting tax on the rich, the Democrats' Build Back Better bill.

00:09:30.000 When have you heard Build Back Better?

00:09:32.000 Or Bilderberg Group.

00:09:33.000 Do you think about Build-A-Bear?

00:09:35.000 Yes.

00:09:35.000 So do I. That's the main thing.

00:09:37.000 Where you can make a teddy bear for your children, and it's time-consuming, expensive, and ultimately futile.

00:09:44.000 Right.

00:09:44.000 But when did it become, like, I've got to work in a teddy bear factory all of a sudden, installing a heart in a teddy bear.

00:09:51.000 There's nothing better about it. 0.67

00:09:52.000 It stinks.

00:09:55.000 They're not building bad bears, are they?

00:09:57.000 I'm saying that.

00:09:58.000 Build Back Better is a gigantic tax cut for millionaires and billionaires.

00:10:01.000 Under Biden, democratic lawmakers pushed a regressive proposal to allow wealthy property owners to deduct more of their state and local taxes, that's SALT as an acronym, from their federal taxes.

00:10:11.000 This initiative provides almost no benefit to the working class but enriches their rich donors. 0.86

00:10:15.000 FREEDOM!

00:10:18.000 So the end of the sentence!

00:10:20.000 Let's go back to the propaganda.

00:10:20.000 In October 2021.

00:10:25.000 Extremists are lining up to take on those bedrock freedoms.

00:10:28.000 Cutting social security that you paid for your entire life while cutting taxes from the very wealthy.

00:10:34.000 Dictating what health care decisions women can make. 0.99

00:10:36.000 Banning books and telling people who they can love.

00:10:40.000 All while making it more difficult for you to be able to vote.

00:10:45.000 When they start using the slow motion like that, it don't matter how old and decrepit you are, it's a bit Reservoir Dogs, isn't it?

00:10:53.000 Reservoir Dodderer, I see him as. 1.00

00:10:56.000 Doddering along, but it's sort of somehow sexy.

00:10:58.000 There they go, Biden and Kamala Harris, two institutionalized, corporatized servants of the state machine, walking along down a corridor.

00:11:07.000 Oh, the glamour!

00:11:08.000 They're using the tools of superficiality.

00:11:11.000 They're using the tools of the people they claim to oppose.

00:11:14.000 That's propagandist fear-mongering.

00:11:16.000 Fear-mongering.

00:11:17.000 There's never going to be a bloody unarmed insurrection in the United States of America.

00:11:21.000 People aren't going to take over the bloody country wandering about in baseball hats.

00:11:25.000 You just mentioned healthcare there.

00:11:26.000 So currently 15 million people are currently being quietly phased out of receiving Medicaid and Children's Health Insurance Program benefits.

00:11:33.000 Freedom!

00:11:35.000 That was a good one.

00:11:36.000 We really landed that one.

00:11:38.000 Also, Democrats scaled back plans for a crackdown on tax cheating bound to an aggressive lobbying campaign by the banking industry.

00:11:44.000 Biden told rich donors on the campaign trail that nothing would fundamentally change if he were elected president.

00:11:50.000 Freedom!

00:11:53.000 Let's go back to this filthy propaganda by the man who's likely to become your president for another four years, unless you could use democracy against him, good old democracy, voting and all that.

00:12:03.000 Are you just calling out the next election result?

00:12:05.000 I'm calling it.

00:12:06.000 It sounded like you were.

00:12:06.000 It's going to be Joe Biden.

00:12:08.000 Wow.

00:12:08.000 I think he won't die between now and then.

00:12:11.000 But you saying the actual winner of the election, the 2024 election.

00:12:14.000 Him.

00:12:15.000 This is an exclusive.

00:12:16.000 It's going to be, isn't it?

00:12:18.000 They seem to be able to work it out one way or another.

00:12:20.000 I don't know if negative information comes out, like these kids working at Burisma and they helped him get the job and he greased the wheels of the machine to ensure that he would get that job.

00:12:33.000 They suppress that information.

00:12:34.000 They manage the outcomes.

00:12:36.000 I don't believe, and I know that at the risk of offending you, I don't think the Republicans are any better I don't know.

00:12:42.000 Maybe they're worse.

00:12:43.000 I don't know.

00:12:43.000 I'm just saying it's meaningless.

00:12:45.000 It's a meaningless difference.

00:12:46.000 It's a meaningless difference.

00:12:48.000 And now, as we talk about in our exclusive in-depth look at the Tucker Carlson story, we're looking at that and we're going to give you a perspective that is going to knock your socks off.

00:12:56.000 It's going to bend your... You know when you accidentally bend back a toenail?

00:13:00.000 Oh yeah, I hate that.

00:13:01.000 It's going to be like that.

00:13:02.000 But a good version.

00:13:03.000 Is there a good version?

00:13:04.000 No, there's no good version of that.

00:13:05.000 But it's truth.

00:13:06.000 It's home truths about the Tucker Carlson.

00:13:09.000 What the Tucker Carlson departure means about the, I would say, the deterioration of the mainstream media and how power is operating and how now there is a genuine, legitimate, Opportunity for independent political movements to emerge.

00:13:23.000 And that is why we're seeing all this smearing, censorship, surveillance.

00:13:27.000 Because there are powerful independent voices emerging now.

00:13:32.000 And you, you are part of it.

00:13:33.000 And you can get even deeper in it if you want to.

00:13:35.000 Join our locals community somewhere.

00:13:37.000 There's a red button on your page.

00:13:39.000 Press that red button with your elbow, if that's what it takes. 0.97

00:13:41.000 With your nipple, if that's what you want. 0.99

00:13:43.000 With a canine tooth, if that's what it requires. 0.98

00:13:46.000 But by God, press it.

00:13:47.000 Join our community while you still can before they oppose even this remaining sliver of freedom.

00:13:53.000 We're going to have a little look at some mainstream media news.

00:13:56.000 We're going to be talking to Saga Njeti a little bit later.

00:13:59.000 He's going to be telling us about his time with Tucker.

00:14:01.000 My time with Tucker, by Saga.

00:14:03.000 That's what I'm calling that section.

00:14:04.000 He's also going to talk to us about Biden running again, the dear old sausage.

00:14:08.000 Should we leave?

00:14:10.000 Listen, if you're watching this on YouTube, we're going to have to leave now because I've got to speak freely, baby.

00:14:14.000 Yeah.

00:14:15.000 I'm feeling it.

00:14:16.000 I'm feeling now that I need to speak.

00:14:18.000 I want to say things that the WHO, who, as you know, still provide the guidelines for YouTube.

00:14:22.000 And that's all right, because we love those 6.4 million wonders.

00:14:25.000 We've got a big following on YouTube and I love you.

00:14:27.000 I love you.

00:14:28.000 But there's a link in the description that directs you to a rumble so that you can hear me speak freely.

00:14:31.000 Can you imagine me speaking freely?

00:14:33.000 I can't.

00:14:35.000 You don't have to, because you will be there on Rumble in a moment with me.

00:14:39.000 There's a link in the description.

00:14:40.000 Click on it now.

00:14:41.000 Why don't we have a look at the mainstream media and how they're reporting on the great news that that dear old, cosophagus dweller, that sepulchral figure, that dear, sweet, living dead Presidente Joe Biden is going to run again.

00:14:57.000 Let's see what they're saying.

00:14:59.000 Let's do Jack Scraff We watch live mainstream news!

00:15:01.000 He's done the graphic.

00:15:02.000 There's a show Jack actually, Dan.

00:15:04.000 Like there's a defrost the glass guys.

00:15:06.000 So that people can see.

00:15:07.000 Look at them.

00:15:10.000 That's where they're all working.

00:15:11.000 Can you see that?

00:15:12.000 That's Jack there.

00:15:13.000 Turn your head Jack, so we can see your face.

00:15:16.000 There he is.

00:15:17.000 Right now let's have a look at Jack's graphic to introduce our item live mainstream news.

00:15:22.000 Is this it?

00:15:23.000 We watch live mainstream news.

00:15:27.000 Live.

00:15:29.000 And that's Leon, the producer's voice.

00:15:32.000 He's done a good job of that.

00:15:33.000 He's recorded that on his phone, potentially, and just put it on.

00:15:36.000 Okay, let's have a look, shall we?

00:15:38.000 Is it actually live or is it a clip?

00:15:39.000 Let's see.

00:15:40.000 This is on MSNBC, is it?

00:15:42.000 Turn it up.

00:15:43.000 We can't hear us.

00:15:45.000 Give us the audio.

00:15:45.000 So happy you're with us this Tuesday.

00:15:46.000 I'm Vicky Wynn.

00:15:47.000 I'm Joe Fryer.

00:15:48.000 NBC News Daily starts right now.

00:15:57.000 That's patronising.

00:15:58.000 You know what the days of the week are?

00:15:59.000 Might need to know it again, be reminded of it.

00:16:01.000 What are the days of the week?

00:16:02.000 What are they called again?

00:16:04.000 Freddy day?

00:16:05.000 Monkey day?

00:16:06.000 Pig day?

00:16:06.000 Monday?

00:16:07.000 Tuesday?

00:16:07.000 Wednesday?

00:16:08.000 Thursday?

00:16:09.000 My day?

00:16:10.000 Side day?

00:16:10.000 Well don't you wonder why day?

00:16:12.000 Today is Tuesday April 25th Finish the job.

00:16:21.000 President Joe Biden officially launched his... What job?

00:16:24.000 What job is he?

00:16:25.000 He's not done.

00:16:25.000 He ain't done no job yet.

00:16:27.000 Also, finish the job.

00:16:28.000 I say that's got connotations of manual manipulation to the point of orgasm, don't you?

00:16:32.000 I don't know about that. 0.98

00:16:33.000 That's the sort of thing Hunter Biden would be shouting at his own midriff. 0.76

00:16:36.000 Finish the job! 0.85

00:16:37.000 I don't have to open my kimono to you though, innit?

00:16:40.000 I just think... Pick up my gander up!

00:16:42.000 Okay.

00:16:45.000 You cut the gander up!

00:16:46.000 Yeah, that's right. 0.68

00:16:47.000 You don't wake up that beast and then leave him hanging!

00:16:51.000 Is that what happened?

00:16:51.000 I think it may have happened, yeah.

00:16:53.000 It's patronising to say finish the... So that suggests... What job?

00:16:56.000 They're basically saying we haven't done the job that we set out to do or that we said that we would do.

00:17:01.000 And actually, when you look at some of the promises and pledges that they made and haven't fulfilled, you can see why they're saying we need to finish the job.

00:17:07.000 This is because for much of the last decade, Democrats complained that the Republicans were backed by dark money.

00:17:12.000 Then in the 2020 election, donors and operatives allied with the Democratic Party embraced dark money, surpassing the Republicans in 2020 spending.

00:17:20.000 They are dark money donors.

00:17:22.000 And also, as you know, they spent tens of millions amplifying what they call far-right candidates in nine states in an attempt to ensure their candidates face less appealing opponents in the general election.

00:17:32.000 Let's see what the Mainstream is saying though because I'm already confused about what time it is or what the weather might be and stuff like that that they provide us with.

00:17:40.000 Let's look.

00:17:40.000 Re-election campaign this morning with a three-minute video touting his accomplishments.

00:17:45.000 More on the case he's making for four more years in the White House.

00:17:50.000 You only need a three-minute video to list his accomplishments.

00:17:53.000 Very good.

00:17:54.000 But there's something else he does in three minutes as well. 0.98

00:18:01.000 Sex. 0.77

00:18:03.000 What? 0.50

00:18:05.000 Why not?

00:18:05.000 Question his masculinity.

00:18:07.000 If you're going to use in your propaganda video, like jogging, images of him jogging and that.

00:18:11.000 Oh, he's virile, isn't he?

00:18:12.000 Yeah.

00:18:13.000 Jogging like that.

00:18:14.000 Still got it.

00:18:14.000 Listen, do you want to vote in a poll?

00:18:16.000 You can vote in this poll.

00:18:16.000 Of course you do.

00:18:18.000 It's, uh, look.

00:18:20.000 Of the promises made by President Biden during his 2020 campaign, which one do you most wish he'd fulfilled?

00:18:26.000 Lowering prescription drugs by 60%, completely decriminalizing cannabis rather than in some crafty sly way, or enabling all workers to have at least seven paid sick days.

00:18:35.000 These are all promises that he made, none of which he's made good on.

00:18:40.000 Go to locals and join our local community in order to participate in that.

00:18:44.000 Remember in a minute we've got Saga Njeti coming on here. 0.63

00:18:47.000 Talk to us, talk to us about about. We're talking to us about on our show. Come on, let's

00:18:54.000 see what the mainstream media is saying. We're going to look at another channel or the

00:18:57.000 same one. Yeah, same one. Let's see what they're saying.

00:18:59.000 The Mississippi River is expected to rise to the highest level we've seen in more than

00:19:02.000 20 years this week.

00:19:05.000 They are pleased about that. I can tell.

00:19:08.000 About the river?

00:19:09.000 Yeah.

00:19:09.000 They're saying it in a sort of like a, hey!

00:19:12.000 Like there's a drumbeat behind it.

00:19:13.000 It's gonna rise!

00:19:15.000 Look at that Mississippi! 1.00

00:19:16.000 I double S, I double S, I double P, I. But they love disasters, don't they? 0.95

00:19:19.000 They love a disaster, the news.

00:19:22.000 We live in a time of ongoing perennial crisis.

00:19:26.000 We lurch from one crisis to another.

00:19:28.000 Haven't you noticed in your country?

00:19:29.000 Let me know in the chat that since 9-11, it's one crisis after another.

00:19:33.000 It's the 9-11 crisis.

00:19:34.000 It's the banking and financial crisis.

00:19:36.000 It's the COVID crisis.

00:19:37.000 Why?

00:19:38.000 Because crisis is good for business, good for the media business, good for a government that wants to legislate, good for big corporations that want to surveil you and snatch your data.

00:19:48.000 You will not believe it when you see our in-depth story about Tucker.

00:19:54.000 Why are you laughing at me for?

00:19:55.000 No, no.

00:19:56.000 Enjoying the show?

00:19:57.000 I'm just enjoying this.

00:19:58.000 Just enjoying the ride.

00:19:58.000 Shall we see what mainstream media are up to elsewhere?

00:20:01.000 Which one's this called?

00:20:02.000 Fox News.

00:20:03.000 Here they are.

00:20:03.000 Let's see what they're saying.

00:20:04.000 Come on, turn them up.

00:20:05.000 Turn them up.

00:20:06.000 There's just someone out there.

00:20:07.000 Nobody answered the door.

00:20:08.000 And so there's actually a body of water across the street.

00:20:10.000 They looked over there to see if maybe something happened.

00:20:12.000 There was no evidence of anything.

00:20:13.000 What was he saying?

00:20:14.000 It's a bit dark this story.

00:20:15.000 Oh, it's a dark story.

00:20:17.000 This is a murder.

00:20:18.000 We don't do stuff like that.

00:20:19.000 It's sad that people are murdering each other.

00:20:21.000 Look at the other side.

00:20:22.000 Also Fox News.

00:20:23.000 After they paid out that money to Domino's Pizzas for those broken pizza machines, I've said a thousand times that Domino's Pizzas are some of the best pizzas there are.

00:20:34.000 Who's this one now?

00:20:35.000 Oh no, Sudan. 1.00

00:20:36.000 Sudan crisis.

00:20:36.000 What's happening exactly?

00:20:38.000 Police say the thieves will often wait until after a completed transaction when the machine spits out your card to distract you and take it.

00:20:46.000 The machine's not spitting out your card.

00:20:46.000 Pause.

00:20:48.000 That's too anthropomorphic, that.

00:20:50.000 The machine ejaculates your card, turned on by money. 1.00

00:20:54.000 It's the ultimate capitalist pig. 0.99

00:20:56.000 Tickle its buttons with your pin code and see what comes out. 0.98

00:21:00.000 Thieverooves are waiting in the back door to slippery slide you into moneylessness.

00:21:05.000 Let's have a look at what she's saying.

00:21:06.000 I like her.

00:21:07.000 Debit card to make sure it's actually yours, especially if you've had an interaction like this.

00:21:11.000 But most importantly, protect that pin like it's actually your money.

00:21:16.000 Thanks to Trevor Alts.

00:21:17.000 Should we just tell people our pins?

00:21:19.000 I bet you wouldn't say your pin on the internet, would you?

00:21:21.000 No, you used to say it.

00:21:22.000 I used to tell people, you've still got to get my card off me.

00:21:25.000 Good luck, because I know jujitsu.

00:21:28.000 Good luck getting my card.

00:21:29.000 I'll defend myself.

00:21:31.000 That's not introducing that.

00:21:33.000 No.

00:21:33.000 I've picked up nothing.

00:21:34.000 No.

00:21:34.000 For God's sake.

00:21:35.000 That's not one of the moves, is it?

00:21:36.000 Yes, they don't ever go like that.

00:21:38.000 They never do that.

00:21:39.000 That makes you vulnerable.

00:21:41.000 Megan Fitzgerald, if I want to hear from you, Megan, I will ask you.

00:21:46.000 Now, let's see what she says, actually.

00:21:47.000 She might be all right.

00:21:47.000 No, not a laboratory in Sudan.

00:21:48.000 armed forces or the paramilitary that took hold of this laboratory.

00:21:53.000 But this is a concern because inside...

00:21:55.000 No, not a laboratory in Sudan.

00:21:57.000 New pandemic coming your way.

00:22:00.000 Is that what they're...

00:22:01.000 Oh no, look, it's burning down.

00:22:03.000 This is why I don't watch the mainstream media.

00:22:05.000 It makes you sad.

00:22:06.000 It's depressing.

00:22:08.000 Who needs it anymore anyway?

00:22:09.000 You've got us now.

00:22:11.000 And more importantly, even than that, you have got Saga and Jetty, one of the most important independent voices in news media.

00:22:11.000 You've got us.

00:22:19.000 Sure, he might disagree with Crystal every so often.

00:22:22.000 Sure, He might have some traditional conservative biases, but he is a man interested in civic and civil discourse.

00:22:29.000 He is a man who wants to have a conversation.

00:22:31.000 He is a man who is open to persuasion and being persuaded.

00:22:35.000 He is a man who is even now backed by books and the globe itself.

00:22:40.000 Saga, thank you so much for joining us.

00:22:42.000 We're so happy to have you.

00:22:43.000 It's a very kind introduction, Russell.

00:22:45.000 It's a pleasure to be here.

00:22:46.000 Thank you.

00:22:47.000 You've got a really nice voice, as a matter of fact.

00:22:49.000 I think that sometimes in the back of my mind when I'm listening to you when I watch your shows.

00:22:52.000 But now that I've actually heard you say my own name, I like it even more. 0.87

00:22:57.000 Now look, Saga, forgive me being a media slut, but I know that you used to... 1.00

00:23:03.000 What was that expression? 0.94

00:23:04.000 It's fine.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, we'll go for it. 0.59

00:23:06.000 We're media sluts. 0.99

00:23:07.000 We're just a couple of sluts together. 1.00

00:23:09.000 Will you tell me please what it was like working for Tucker, Tucker, Tucker, Tucker, Tucker, Tucker Carlson? 0.94

00:23:16.000 Sure, yeah.

00:23:16.000 Tucker, actually, I would not be in media at all without Tucker Carlson.

00:23:20.000 I was 23 years old.

00:23:22.000 He gave me a job interview for an opening at the Daily Caller.

00:23:26.000 I really wanted to break into journalism.

00:23:28.000 And I was really nervous to go into this interview.

00:23:30.000 And he didn't ask me a single question about anything professional.

00:23:35.000 He was like, what do you eat?

00:23:37.000 And then we talked a lot about how I used to be a vegetarian

00:23:40.000 and about the caste system in India.

00:23:41.000 And then I walked out after 25 minutes.

00:23:43.000 I was like, I don't know if that went well or not.

00:23:45.000 And I got the job.

00:23:46.000 And since then he was the kindest mentor.

00:23:48.000 He always supported me from basically from day one.

00:23:52.000 And so I really can't say a bad thing about the guy on an interpersonal level.

00:23:57.000 We went on his show.

00:23:59.000 He was the loveliest man.

00:24:00.000 He was barefoot behind the desk.

00:24:02.000 We went round his house.

00:24:03.000 I don't know, we in his garden.

00:24:04.000 And like, his wife told me to do it.

00:24:06.000 Just go and pee over there. 0.99

00:24:07.000 That's where Tucker pees.

00:24:08.000 And he went, are you kidding me?

00:24:10.000 Are you peeing in my yard?

00:24:11.000 Oh my God!

00:24:12.000 Like that.

00:24:13.000 And like, even though we talked about differences of opinion on cultural and political issues,

00:24:19.000 it was an honest in good faith discourse that I feel it's difficult to have in what you

00:24:24.000 might call central left media spaces.

00:24:27.000 And that's, I suppose, one of the significant changes that we've been, that's been occurring

00:24:31.000 lately.

00:24:32.000 Saga, what we are offering is that Tucker's removal or departure from Fox is significant.

00:24:38.000 He's in a sense a marker of the transition from centralized media organizations to more

00:24:44.000 independent media organizations.

00:24:45.000 I say that with no knowledge of what Tucker might do next, obviously.

00:24:50.000 But what do you think Tucker's departure tells us more broadly about the deterioration of the mainstream media?

00:24:58.000 Yeah, the mainstream media is crumbling here.

00:25:00.000 I mean, I heard for so long about how O'Reilly, nobody could replace him.

00:25:05.000 Tucker was able to replace him.

00:25:06.000 That was a unique situation.

00:25:08.000 He did it by recreating him in the aggregate by bringing in younger people, dissident voices.

00:25:13.000 There's nobody on the bench in Fox News that has any interest in that.

00:25:17.000 And because why would you?

00:25:18.000 What did we just happen?

00:25:19.000 We watched Rupert Murdoch, the Australian billionaire, just axe Tucker.

00:25:24.000 And from what I know, Russell, I can tell you, I can tell you from speaking to people here in Washington, and it's also been reported elsewhere, one of the reasons that Tucker was canned from Fox News is because he was telling the truth about what happened on January 6th.

00:25:37.000 He was one of the people who exposed Ray Epps and some of the other alleged agent provocateurs that were present on January 6th.

00:25:45.000 Yeah, allegedly.

00:25:46.000 Yeah, allegedly.

00:25:47.000 Just for the lawyers.

00:25:48.000 For the lawyers here in DC.

00:25:49.000 We have a device for that.

00:25:50.000 So you think it's precisely because Tucker Carlson has become an iconoclastic and independent voice willing to speak out against both the left and right in spite of the ongoing charges from people on the left that he uses dog whistle racism and all kinds of stuff like that, you think that in effect he's a peripheral and anti-establishment voice to the point where he could no longer be housed within the main mainstream?

00:26:12.000 I'm almost certain that was one of the big factors in his departure.

00:26:16.000 We should remember, everyone is talking about Dominion.

00:26:19.000 We should also forget, or don't forget, Tucker didn't have anything to do with Dominion.

00:26:23.000 Yes, his text messages came out, but he was actually one of the only people on the network who aired anything dissident about her and said that she, quote, was full of it.

00:26:30.000 So, let's put that aside.

00:26:31.000 Really, what it is, is that the previous night, Sunday night, 60 Minutes here in America, did a segment about Ray Epps in a sympathetic light where they actually blamed Tucker Carlson and others for casting him as an alleged Asian provocateur.

00:26:46.000 But he, as I understand it, at the very least was probably going to mention that on his

00:26:51.000 show.

00:26:52.000 There was a lot of other stuff going on.

00:26:53.000 I don't want to say this is the only thing.

00:26:54.000 There was another lawsuit alleging like a sexist workplace or whatever behind the scenes.

00:26:58.000 Look, I worked with a man for several years.

00:27:00.000 I can say I never saw him do anything like that.

00:27:03.000 I'm not sure what this lady has, but I do know that for Murdoch himself, Rupert Murdoch,

00:27:08.000 January 6th was a major dividing line.

00:27:10.000 He was always pissed about it.

00:27:12.000 And I do think that that was one of the major precipitating factors as to why Tucker was ultimately fired unceremoniously from the network.

00:27:19.000 I mean, he was the biggest star there.

00:27:21.000 And look, I honestly think it is a good thing.

00:27:22.000 I think it's a good thing, Russell, that millions more people are consuming your show, my show, people like The Jimmy Dore Show, The Tim Pool Show, Kyle Kulinski Show.

00:27:31.000 There's so many more out there where this is the demarcation point.

00:27:35.000 You know, I saw a lot of people say, Fox will be fine.

00:27:38.000 Well, because they're number one in cable.

00:27:40.000 That's like being number one in the classified ads business in 2001.

00:27:45.000 By 2010, who cares?

00:27:48.000 The business is gone.

00:27:49.000 So you can be number one.

00:27:50.000 You can be multi-billionaire in 2001.

00:27:52.000 By 2010, you're gone.

00:27:54.000 And look, maybe I'm too hopeful, but look at what you have been able to do in a shorter period of time.

00:27:54.000 You're irrelevant.

00:28:01.000 In 2017, I was working for Tucker Carlson.

00:28:03.000 I was a White House correspondent.

00:28:04.000 He had just joined the Fox News platform.

00:28:06.000 Now I'm here with Crystal.

00:28:07.000 We have a great show.

00:28:09.000 So many other independent YouTube creators.

00:28:11.000 Think about where Joe Rogan, our mutual friend, was in 2017.

00:28:15.000 Look at our exponential growth and look at their declining growth.

00:28:18.000 So you can look at those two trends and you tell me where you think that's going to go.

00:28:22.000 So I think this is a good thing.

00:28:23.000 I think it's a good thing for the future.

00:28:24.000 It looks like there's an epochal shift taking place that goes beyond any individuals but perhaps can be momentarily symbolized by them, particularly in this instance.

00:28:34.000 Two other things I'd like to pick up on, Saga, is the fact that in this new emergent space, figures that are politically opposed, like Jimmy Dore, Ewan Crystal even, generally speaking, Tim Paul, myself, all operate collegiately and civilly.

00:28:52.000 And perhaps this demonstrates that there's been a shift from left versus right to establishmentarianism versus dissenting or peripheral voices.

00:29:02.000 Would you say that's fair, Saga?

00:29:04.000 Oh, I absolutely think it's fair.

00:29:06.000 I also think that the medium is so important.

00:29:08.000 Look at what you and I are doing here, Russell.

00:29:09.000 We're talking.

00:29:10.000 You've listened to me and I've listened to you.

00:29:12.000 I've listened to you for hours, I'm sure, and I hope you've listened to me for some period of time.

00:29:16.000 We're sitting and we're having a dialogue.

00:29:18.000 We're having a discussion.

00:29:19.000 You know, whenever you've done NewsMe, one of your famous clips on Morning Joe, what I loved about it, but you've done this song and dance before.

00:29:26.000 You come in there and you come to their studio and they tell you that they want to discuss nationalism or some topic which requires nuance and discussion.

00:29:34.000 I mean, I can't do a segment on the lab leak theory in five minutes.

00:29:36.000 I just can't do it.

00:29:38.000 We have to go through the timeline from front to back.

00:29:38.000 It takes time.

00:29:40.000 And here's the thing.

00:29:41.000 What do you and I know?

00:29:41.000 they're able to lie because they don't even they have so little time that they're just focused on

00:29:45.000 propaganda propaganda propaganda with no nuance intersected in between. I mean I can't do a

00:29:51.000 segment on the lab leak theory in five minutes. I just can't do it. It takes time. We have to go

00:29:57.000 through the timeline from front to back and here's the thing. What do you and I know? America, not

00:30:02.000 even just Americans, people all over the world because my audience is semi-global which I always

00:30:06.000 find fascinating. They just, they want to hear it.

00:30:10.000 If you give them the opportunity, they will take the time to sit with you, to listen, to learn about something.

00:30:16.000 I find that the people in independent media are 10 to 15 times more and better informed than many people who are just casual observers of the news.

00:30:25.000 And it's because, I think, of the medium that we have.

00:30:27.000 And for that, God bless the internet.

00:30:29.000 And that's why we have to protect free speech and be against censorship.

00:30:32.000 It's interesting to contrast that with the rise of censorship and the doubling down on authoritarianism that centralised systems, be they media or governmental, are advocating for, either through the Restrict Act or through creating a climate of fear, anxiety, smearing and cancellation.

00:30:51.000 I wonder, is that something that you think may similarly be overwhelmed in the same way that, you know, you said that the cable networks will become obsolete?

00:31:02.000 I hope so.

00:31:04.000 But I still think that the worst is yet to come, and I'll tell you why.

00:31:07.000 At the end of the day, these cable news shows are still making billions of dollars.

00:31:10.000 I don't think a lot of people understand this, and I want to always try and hammer it home.

00:31:13.000 Cable does not make money off of viewership.

00:31:15.000 Viewership helps.

00:31:16.000 The vast majority of their profits comes from the cable news bundle, people like Cox Communications, paying Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC to be part of the bundle.

00:31:25.000 They don't make that much money, actually, from advertising.

00:31:28.000 This is a multi-billion dollar business.

00:31:31.000 Now, the next time those negotiations are up, let's say in the next seven years or so for each of those platforms, they are going to discover that because of their declining viewership, they're going to make a lot less money.

00:31:41.000 That is when, Russell, they are going to be stomping and using their establishment credentials To crush your show, my show, and others.

00:31:50.000 Because when they see how little money they're about to make, they're about to be in the fight of their lives.

00:31:54.000 That's when the knives are really coming out.

00:31:56.000 So, right now, unfortunately, I think we're looking at child's play.

00:32:00.000 I think that the censorship battle, five to seven years from now, will be absolutely titanic.

00:32:05.000 They will be pushing, and they've already laid the groundwork for this.

00:32:08.000 That's why the Restrict Act is written as it was.

00:32:10.000 That's why the groundwork was made where CNN's media reporters and those people, they get to tell Facebook and Apple Podcasts and others to take down whoever they want.

00:32:20.000 This is all just battle space, shaping.

00:32:23.000 These are like shaping operations in a war, but we haven't even gotten close.

00:32:27.000 You know, the first shots might've been fired, but we are years away from what I think that the real fight is gonna look like.

00:32:33.000 I like the image you seem to be using there that we have a sort of a primordial soup in which formations are beginning to emerge.

00:32:40.000 Tactics are beginning to become apparent and you would anticipate more smearing, more shutting down of dissent, more opportunistic and untrue attacks on dissenting voices.

00:32:52.000 That's an interesting take on that.

00:32:55.000 It's not just establishment media though that is experiencing the problems that come with the rise of technology and the ability to communicate immediately and ubiquitously.

00:33:07.000 Centralised politics is suffering in the same way.

00:33:09.000 In spite of this, Joe Biden has announced his 2024 presidential candidacy as expected.

00:33:16.000 Do you imagine that the same problems that are besieging centralised mainstream media are Also approaching the political sphere as well, Saga.

00:33:27.000 Do you think that new independent political voices might emerge bolstered and symbiotically informed by independent media?

00:33:37.000 I would hope so, but I also understand how closed of a system it is.

00:33:40.000 I think people need to understand that the average voter, unfortunately, doesn't matter.

00:33:45.000 I think that they should.

00:33:46.000 I think democracy, small d democracy, should be put into place.

00:33:50.000 But unfortunately, the way that power works is everybody's talking to each other.

00:33:54.000 The reason CNN has influence is because the 200,000 people who watch it, half of them live here in DC.

00:34:01.000 If the right congressman or the president or right watches the CNN segment, then nobody and a lot of people may not be watching it, but the influence is 10x.

00:34:09.000 We have to get to the point where not only do we exist in a numbers wise, but you can wield real political power.

00:34:17.000 Now, unfortunately, that has not happened yet.

00:34:18.000 But I also do believe that it is possible.

00:34:20.000 I mean, if we look at the previous Tulsi Gabbard campaign, if we look at the current candidacy of Marianne Williamson, if we look at RFK Jr., actually, is really where everyone should be stunned.

00:34:31.000 is a man who has been literally blackballed by all of the mainstream media.

00:34:31.000 RFK Jr.

00:34:35.000 Nobody touched this man.

00:34:37.000 He had the number one bestselling book in the country.

00:34:39.000 He has over a million copies of The Real Anthony Fauci sold.

00:34:42.000 And we got 14% polling in the general election.

00:34:44.000 Now that is not nothing.

00:34:46.000 We should forget Ross Perot won some 19% of the vote here in the United States in 1992.

00:34:52.000 And he also was a figure totally bashed and smeared by the media.

00:34:56.000 Now, I'm not saying that these people can win necessarily, but let's say you're an average citizen and you want to find out, what does RFK Jr.

00:35:05.000 think?

00:35:05.000 I don't actually know about what he thinks.

00:35:07.000 You're not going to go to the Today Show or any of these other places.

00:35:10.000 You're going to go on YouTube and you're going to go see and watch an interview with him.

00:35:13.000 So as that happens, As that scale begins to scale up over time, I think it is ultimately inevitable that the power will shift.

00:35:21.000 But, to bring back to my previous point, they will fight as hard as they possibly can to make sure that that never happens.

00:35:27.000 We're going to have RFK on our show, but I know that he's one of those people that is just surrounded by clouds of condemnation, that they try to create a climate where, you know, where you're guilty by association, that terms like anti-vaxxer become so pejorative that you can't engage in the conversation.

00:35:47.000 Now, a few years later, we're beginning to see how erroneous many of those assumptions around the pandemic arguments were, and in In fact, the necessity for open and good faith conversations.

00:35:57.000 And so you would, plainly, what you're saying is that it's sensible to have RFK on our show to listen to what he has to say, what his policies are, what his ideas are, how he would direct America.

00:36:08.000 By the way, RFK, if you're listening, we're also trying to have you on our show.

00:36:08.000 Absolutely.

00:36:12.000 So we would love to also make that happen.

00:36:15.000 Look, Russell, I don't think that media people think they have responsibilities to tell people what to think.

00:36:22.000 I think it's the opposite.

00:36:23.000 I want to help people think about whatever they want to think about.

00:36:26.000 If 14% of the American public is interested in RFK Jr., let's talk, and let's not make it some sort of, listen, I'm not a doctor.

00:36:33.000 I will never be able to get into the weeds about proteins and all this stuff.

00:36:38.000 I can read people who I trust, and I can bring that up, but I almost don't even look at that.

00:36:42.000 I almost look at that as immaterial, because I watched his campaign video, and that's not all of what he's running on.

00:36:47.000 That might be what he's, quote, known for, but he's talking about environmentalism.

00:36:50.000 He's talking about the legacy of the Kennedy family.

00:36:53.000 I have some of the books written by his uncle right behind me, and I have an RFK book as well.

00:36:58.000 I find them to be tremendously inspirational heroes in my own personal political views, and I would like to hear about how he possibly wants to have that legacy and move it forward.

00:37:07.000 In other words, letting people be branded, and then even almost, let's say that you have them on, and you have a unidimensional view of, I want to destroy this person.

00:37:15.000 I never walk into an interview like that.

00:37:17.000 I don't find it to be interesting at all, even if I vehemently disagree with that person.

00:37:22.000 Because if they are prominent, let's say, you know, especially in RFK's case, clearly it appeals to someone.

00:37:28.000 It appeals to something.

00:37:29.000 I want to understand that.

00:37:30.000 I want to help people understand that.

00:37:31.000 Both who might disagree and even who might agree.

00:37:34.000 Maybe let them see a side of him that they haven't seen before.

00:37:37.000 Yeah, that's journalistic integrity that you're describing, to investigate in good faith what it is that a figure or a subject speaks to.

00:37:47.000 What is appealing?

00:37:48.000 Why is he getting traction?

00:37:50.000 Now also on that bookshelf right behind you, provocatively placed, is a book called Why England Slept.

00:37:56.000 Why did England sleep? 0.87

00:37:58.000 And why have you put that book there?

00:37:59.000 Is it to hurt me while we are still grieving for the Queen?

00:38:03.000 I did put it out for you.

00:38:04.000 That was written by John F. Kennedy.

00:38:06.000 It is an original, written in 1939.

00:38:08.000 And I have it up there just because, A, it's a cool, it was a gift to me by my fiancé.

00:38:14.000 But beyond that, I mean, it's just, it's fascinating to me that a 23-year-old who would later become President of the United States would write a book in real time as World War II was breaking out about Neville Chamberlain and contemporary politics in England.

00:38:27.000 It's an amazing book and it historically actually holds up today.

00:38:31.000 So I really love history, specifically presidential history, and that's why I have it behind me.

00:38:36.000 Probably says more about me than JFK, but I've sort of primarily focused on sort of the glamour, the adultery, and obviously the conspiracies that surround his assassination that was definitely a straightforward murder by one guy standing on a hill with a bullet that could defy the laws of physics.

00:38:53.000 But I'd be interested to learn about his abilities as a writer and as an academic.

00:38:59.000 I will look into that.

00:38:59.000 That's fascinating.

00:39:01.000 Saga, before you go, if you would humor us further, we know that you are interested in the subject of unidentified flying objects, or whatever the hell they're called now.

00:39:10.000 Why do you think it is that they're suddenly being openly discussed?

00:39:14.000 You know people who like a band before they become popular, right?

00:39:18.000 I'm like, I used to like UFOs when I was like 16 years old and everyone was like, oh, well, why is there no good footage of UFOs then?

00:39:25.000 Why don't they land on the White House lawn?

00:39:27.000 And now it's like the CIA are releasing footage of them in war zones and stuff.

00:39:32.000 What the hell's going on?

00:39:33.000 Well, I understand why people are skeptical.

00:39:36.000 I think you should be skeptical of anything the government is releasing or saying.

00:39:38.000 Here's what I would say.

00:39:39.000 With Jeremy Corbell, who I know that you know as well, I've spoken to him about this.

00:39:44.000 They don't want to be doing this.

00:39:46.000 They got dragged here kicking and screaming because people like Commander David Fravor, who was the pilot during the Tic Tac object video, people like Ryan Graves, well, highly decorated, Like completely with it.

00:40:00.000 Pilots are trying to speak out and have been recording this video.

00:40:03.000 They've been trying to flag this.

00:40:05.000 They're trying to get to the bottom of it.

00:40:06.000 And eventually enough information was able to make it out that they were dragged kicking and screaming.

00:40:10.000 Now, even that right now, Russell, I can tell you inside of Congress, there are only one or two people who even care.

00:40:16.000 about the issue.

00:40:17.000 And they are also dragging the Pentagon, kicking and screaming, trying to get information out of them.

00:40:22.000 Remember, it's been over two years since we were supposed to have that initial report.

00:40:25.000 We still, we have no more video.

00:40:27.000 We have one new video.

00:40:28.000 It's, you know, it's a good video.

00:40:29.000 It's very interesting.

00:40:30.000 But, you know, it's not, based upon what I have understood to exist in the archives and more, this is not even scratching the surface.

00:40:38.000 And unfortunately, I think people are viewing it almost as some sort of psyop.

00:40:43.000 Where I completely get where they're coming from.

00:40:45.000 I really do.

00:40:46.000 But, you know, I also do cover Washington.

00:40:49.000 I can tell you, you know, from people in the Pentagon and more, this is the last thing they would rather be talking about.

00:40:54.000 No, they're not also using it, you know, to increase their funding requests.

00:40:58.000 And also, at a time when they would have needed more funding a decade ago, when some of these videos were actually being taken in real time, they tried their best to keep it secret.

00:41:06.000 So when I look at all of that, I don't yet see it.

00:41:08.000 I see an incompetent, bumbling bureaucracy intent on keeping this secret because here's the truth, they're just like us and they have no idea what the hell is going on.

00:41:18.000 I find a lot of comfort in that.

00:41:19.000 Let's have a look at their recently released UFO footage saga and after that I want to ask you about what you imagine they've got on their files or at least your speculation while acknowledging there is speculation.

00:41:32.000 Let's have a look at that footage.

00:41:34.000 An American military drone conducting surveillance in the Middle East.

00:41:38.000 Suddenly, an unidentified object zips in and out of frame.

00:41:42.000 Slow it down, and it appears to be a metallic sphere.

00:41:46.000 But where it came from and what it was doing remain a mystery to the Pentagon.

00:41:50.000 Have you ever seen a UFO?

00:41:52.000 Why are you interested in the subject?

00:41:53.000 What do you think of the philosophical and ontological connotations of life elsewhere?

00:41:58.000 Do you think it's advanced technology that is human or do you think it's evidence of life elsewhere?

00:42:03.000 Do you think it might be finally the clarion call for us to unite as one human tribe while decentralizing power wherever possible?

00:42:11.000 I can only hope so, Russell.

00:42:13.000 Look, I mean, my personal opinion, yeah, I believe the, it's a very standard story.

00:42:18.000 I think that we have very likely been visited by alien civilization, maybe multiple alien civilizations.

00:42:25.000 They chose 1947 Roswell, New Mexico for a reason.

00:42:28.000 That reason was that we evolved on a human, on a basically in terms of a civilizational accomplishment.

00:42:36.000 Exploded an atomic bomb and wielded a power that really does represent the next phase of human evolution where, as Joe Rogan has said, these chimps, they not only could kill each other by hand, they can literally bomb each other, bomb the world 50,000 times over and possibly even represent. 0.80

00:42:55.000 So I think we are very likely being surveilled.

00:42:58.000 I don't really know what that looks like or what really even the implications of that.

00:43:02.000 Unfortunately, I don't know, even if in our current times, That it would mean that we would all come together.

00:43:07.000 I certainly do hope so.

00:43:09.000 I'm a big fan of the book, The Three-Body Problem, which I do actually believe is one of the more accurate views of kind of what and how a human civilization would react in the event of a visiting.

00:43:19.000 But let's put all that aside and the philosophical debate.

00:43:23.000 This is also just a very straightforward story about being lied to and not getting the truth.

00:43:28.000 I've done multiple videos about the past of UFO coverups, all the way going back to Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, to the subsequent conclusions inside of the Pentagon that we are almost certainly being visited by an alien civilization that was covered up in the 1950s.

00:43:42.000 Project Blue Book, people can go back and look all of this up, because again, it takes a very long time to explain.

00:43:48.000 On the videos that I, listen, Christopher Mellon, former Assistant Secretary of Defense, he was a State Senate appointed official inside the Pentagon, is on the record saying that there is a video of two craftsmen flying together, two pilots, and a UFO that zooms in between people inside the cockpit video.

00:44:08.000 Absolutely freaking out about seeing that.

00:44:10.000 They said it's one of the most high-impact videos that exists around this.

00:44:14.000 And I also do think all of the discussion around oh we don't have any video of these these first of all you know this presumption is is that this is a highly advanced civilization or advanced technology but second like all of these are happening either several hundred thousand feet or thousands of feet up in the air or miles off to sea

00:44:33.000 Cameras don't exist there.

00:44:35.000 It's not a place that a lot of people are necessarily with their cell phone.

00:44:40.000 So I think you put all of that together and very slowly we're getting dribblings of this.

00:44:44.000 I have no idea what it is.

00:44:46.000 Again, this is just my theory.

00:44:47.000 I could be completely wrong.

00:44:48.000 It could be a Chinese drone going Mach 7, but I don't think so.

00:44:52.000 And there's good reason to say not so.

00:44:54.000 In a sense it breaks the framework of how we regard reality and so much of how power operates requires that we stay within such narrow framing, quarrel, quibble and sling mud within that framework and once you start to recognize that the universe and reality are not as we assume it to be, then cultural questions, political questions, questions around how we organize start to become sort of less significant, less Underscored by passion and primal impulse, it induces in me a kind of sanguinity and a kind of willingness to be, I don't know, I suppose, more loving.

00:45:34.000 And I feel like I heard early tapes of Bob Lazar, because remember, I'm a long-time aficionado, sort of saying that, and Timothy Goode and stuff, talking about how there's a sort of a concomitant feeling of love somehow.

00:45:49.000 It sort of induces a feeling of I take great humility in the fact that we have no idea.

00:45:54.000 in you somewhat like, you know, you see like a Rorschach test what you want to

00:45:58.000 see in there and I want to see the possibility for meaningful change.

00:46:02.000 Yeah, that's incredibly well said. I take great humility in the fact that we have

00:46:08.000 no idea and I find that to be very inspiring. I find, you know, I know that I

00:46:13.000 believe you're a fan of Graham Hancock and a lot of his work as well.

00:46:16.000 Do you know why that's so important?

00:46:18.000 To say, who are you?

00:46:19.000 You think you're the most advanced human to ever lived?

00:46:22.000 You have no idea.

00:46:23.000 People should go visit the pyramids.

00:46:25.000 Go touch it with your hands.

00:46:26.000 Go and look at it.

00:46:27.000 Go to Malta. 0.94

00:46:29.000 Go and look at some of those temples.

00:46:30.000 I've been to some of these places.

00:46:31.000 Ancient Hindu temples in India or in South America.

00:46:36.000 I very recently was looking at some Mayan ruins.

00:46:39.000 One of them was in Mexico.

00:46:41.000 It was on a cliff.

00:46:42.000 Nobody knew why a hole was in the center of it.

00:46:44.000 It turns out that it's a sophisticated hurricane warning system that only when the wind goes over 60 miles per hour makes a sound that can warn everybody around you.

00:46:54.000 If you really believe that that was, you know, just happenstance and that didn't require, you know, the knowledge of a very advanced civilization or the Perry Rees map.

00:47:03.000 I have a Perry Rees map actually over there about the, you know, the ancient view of Antarctica and how it was Before the polarized caps and all that formed, I find that to be truly inspiring.

00:47:14.000 It actually makes me feel like anything is possible, whereas the previous narrative is just so cookie cutter, you know?

00:47:20.000 Oh, well, hunter-gatherer, and then we went to civilize, and we started having wheat, and then this happened, and then war happened, and then now we're here, and technology is the height of humankind.

00:47:29.000 What if it's a prison of humankind?

00:47:30.000 What if it's actually not, you know, not even close to where we were before?

00:47:34.000 I find that to be a very inspiring story.

00:47:36.000 Yes, yes, and when you put aside the hubris that accompanies the idea that we're at some point of, some apex right now, it opens your mind to the possibility that there are, again, different ways that we might be human, different ways that we might be organized, and it takes away that kind of priapic insistence that we are thrusting ever forward in pursuit of as yet unlived dreams.

00:48:03.000 The idea that We have been here many times.

00:48:05.000 Things fall apart.

00:48:07.000 Reality is cyclical, not linear.

00:48:09.000 They're sort of difficult concepts to manage without, I think, the inclusion of a certain degree of spiritual grace and, as you say, perhaps epistemological humility.

00:48:20.000 I think you're right.

00:48:21.000 Absolutely.

00:48:21.000 You know, because it is more convenient to think the other way.

00:48:26.000 And I think that a lot of people just need the comfort and the knowledge that we know everything that's happened.

00:48:32.000 We don't know anything.

00:48:33.000 And I don't know why, though, that people can't flip it around and see it as Inspirational.

00:48:38.000 We don't know anything, so we have so much farther to go.

00:48:41.000 Or maybe we have so much farther to return back to once what we were, to discover new frontiers and new technology.

00:48:48.000 I'm obsessed with the stories of exploration, of civilizational first contact, and so much more.

00:48:54.000 Because in that, I see the birth of something new.

00:48:57.000 Didn't always go well, For a lot of people but it was exciting and it was riveting and I think that so much of the cookie cutter ways that we look at our current story in our current society that are almost designed as you've often talked about to keep us complacent and locked into systems of power where all the only thing that's keeping you in a prison is your mind.

00:49:17.000 You know, whenever you think differently, almost anything is possible.

00:49:21.000 And a lot of this can sound hokey, but you know, take it from a guy like me, even in a suit, like you can manifest quite a few things whenever you just want to think differently.

00:49:30.000 I think you're right.

00:49:32.000 Also, how much holiday are you getting a year to go to all them Aztec temples and pyramids and stuff?

00:49:36.000 We're doing 46 weeks a year, five shows a week.

00:49:39.000 How much holiday are you getting?

00:49:41.000 Here's the best part.

00:49:42.000 I did a show that morning remotely, Russell.

00:49:45.000 Oh, it doesn't stop.

00:49:47.000 He's humble, he's grafting, he's bringing truth, humility and grace to journalism.

00:49:54.000 Saga, thank you so much for joining us.

00:49:55.000 I'm such a fan of Breaking Point.

00:49:57.000 It's a real privilege and a pleasure to speak with you personally.

00:50:01.000 I didn't think we'd get into so many subjects and go so sort of deep.

00:50:05.000 I really, really enjoyed speaking with you.

00:50:07.000 Likewise, Russell.

00:50:07.000 I would love to meet you in person next time you're in the States.

00:50:09.000 So you're welcome on our show anytime.

00:50:11.000 Thank you.

00:50:11.000 We'd love to see you.

00:50:12.000 I'll certainly take you up on that.

00:50:13.000 Thank you very much, Saga.

00:50:15.000 It's a great pleasure to have you.

00:50:16.000 You can of course watch Saga on Breaking Point on YouTube if you're willing to watch a man shackled by the limitations that come with that platform, but I would say it's certainly worth it for Saga.

00:50:26.000 Did you enjoy that, Mr. Roy?

00:50:28.000 Yeah, I knew it would be great, but I didn't know you'd go to some of the areas that you did do, and that was fascinating to me, yeah.

00:50:33.000 I think one of the ways the interview benefited is we didn't childishly sexualize Saga.

00:50:38.000 That was good, yeah.

00:50:39.000 Like we do some of our guests.

00:50:41.000 The UFO thing, you know.

00:50:42.000 That was a good shout, man.

00:50:43.000 We were talking about it earlier.

00:50:44.000 Good shout, your pitch.

00:50:46.000 I like the dynamic between Saga and Krystal anyway, but there's always a bit of a smirk on Krystal's face when Saga kind of gets into talking about UFOs, and I think it really benefited from the fact that you're both into it.

00:50:56.000 I mean, obviously you're a long time into UFOs, aren't you?

00:50:59.000 Well, probably before anyone else was.

00:51:00.000 The OG, I would say.

00:51:03.000 I don't know where anyone else was!

00:51:05.000 UFOs is it?

00:51:06.000 Kamwhile Russ?

00:51:07.000 Cassette tapes?

00:51:08.000 That's right.

00:51:09.000 And when I was a 16 year old boy smoking a little bit of weed.

00:51:09.000 Oh bad.

00:51:12.000 Possibly.

00:51:13.000 We're not on YouTube are we?

00:51:14.000 No we're not on.

00:51:15.000 It's 50 minutes darling.

00:51:16.000 Where have you been grandad?

00:51:16.000 Who knows?

00:51:18.000 Listen, I am watching out for us all the time.

00:51:20.000 Did you know you used to take drugs?

00:51:21.000 I did, I did.

00:51:22.000 I've never mentioned it.

00:51:23.000 Never mentioned it.

00:51:24.000 It looks like we're getting RFK on then.

00:51:24.000 I'd heard it.

00:51:26.000 It looks like it'll happen.

00:51:27.000 I better send that email to that lady. 1.00

00:51:28.000 I think it's Brittany Kaiser of Cambridge Analytica.

00:51:30.000 Is it really?

00:51:31.000 I think so.

00:51:32.000 She was Cambridge Analytica.

00:51:33.000 Yes, that's correct.

00:51:34.000 Are you going to do this email live?

00:51:36.000 Is this what's actually happening now?

00:51:38.000 It sounds like it looks like it is.

00:51:40.000 Please can we have RFK on our show?

00:51:44.000 Yeah?

00:51:44.000 Is that what it takes for you?

00:51:45.000 Any niceties or... I don't know.

00:51:48.000 How do you do it?

00:51:49.000 How would you do it?

00:51:50.000 Hello, I'm writing on behalf of... There is that.

00:51:50.000 I think that would work.

00:51:52.000 Yeah, it's usually that.

00:51:53.000 You don't need to do that.

00:51:54.000 Look, watch this.

00:51:55.000 Look, yeah.

00:51:57.000 Can we have RFK on?

00:52:04.000 Question mark.

00:52:05.000 Hang on, did you... I love him.

00:52:07.000 Right.

00:52:09.000 Exclamation mark.

00:52:10.000 He's great.

00:52:11.000 Okay.

00:52:12.000 He's great.

00:52:12.000 Yeah?

00:52:13.000 Should I do some emojis?

00:52:15.000 Let's do some.

00:52:16.000 I'll do some emojis.

00:52:17.000 Purple heart.

00:52:17.000 Close the deal.

00:52:18.000 I always use that since I got my purple belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

00:52:21.000 Prayer hands.

00:52:22.000 Crown.

00:52:23.000 Thumb.

00:52:24.000 Double heart.

00:52:25.000 Aeroplane.

00:52:26.000 America.

00:52:27.000 Christmas tree!

00:52:29.000 Why not?

00:52:29.000 Christmas tree. Put a Christmas tree in. Anyone else want to suggest any emojis?

00:52:34.000 You've got to suggest them fast baby so I can search them.

00:52:36.000 Double heart. I've done double heart.

00:52:38.000 I've done double heart. Well fingers crossed. Yeah that's a good one. All right I'm gonna do

00:52:41.000 fingers crossed. That's a good suggestion from... Oh god we're getting so many suggestions. Poo.

00:52:45.000 I'm not doing a poo. No. Airplane. Alex Overton. Peace sign.

00:52:48.000 Synchronicity. 525.

00:52:50.000 These are good emoji suggestions.

00:52:52.000 Very good.

00:52:53.000 I'm going to do the fingers crossed.

00:52:55.000 Chocolate ice cream.

00:52:56.000 I'm not doing chocolate ice cream. 0.93

00:52:57.000 That's silly. 0.99

00:52:58.000 Disgusting. 1.00

00:52:58.000 Fingers crossed. 1.00

00:52:59.000 Any other suggestions?

00:52:59.000 Right, I've done that.

00:53:00.000 Aubergine.

00:53:01.000 I'm not doing aubergine.

00:53:02.000 Because eggplant, in your language, that's, you know what that is?

00:53:02.000 No.

00:53:06.000 Sex. 0.68

00:53:07.000 Mmm. 0.96

00:53:08.000 That's about six.

00:53:09.000 Press send yet?

00:53:11.000 I've not pressed send yet, Gareth!

00:53:14.000 Okay, because you're a little nervous about doing all those emerges.

00:53:17.000 Okay, baby! 1.00

00:53:18.000 Send!

00:53:19.000 Gone!

00:53:20.000 Yeah!

00:53:20.000 Okay!

00:53:23.000 Bloody government holding us back!

00:53:25.000 Gal, I wasn't saying anything crazy about politics at the beginning, did I?

00:53:29.000 Um, it did say a few crazy things.

00:53:30.000 Crazy things.

00:53:31.000 Yeah, I think we, you know, we got through it.

00:53:32.000 That was a very, uh, intellectual, uh, conversation.

00:53:35.000 With Saga.

00:53:35.000 With Saga, so I think we... Saga, Saga, Saga.

00:53:37.000 Remember that song, Laga, Laga, Laga, in our country?

00:53:39.000 Yep.

00:53:40.000 What was that about?

00:53:42.000 Uh, football or something like that. 0.99

00:53:43.000 Silly, isn't it, really? 0.96

00:53:44.000 What's going on with the culture? 0.95

00:53:45.000 Are we gonna show the video about Tucker and a deep dive into it?

00:53:47.000 Who knows?

00:53:48.000 I mean, we're at 53 minutes.

00:53:48.000 Are we?

00:53:50.000 Yep.

00:53:51.000 I'm not gonna show...

00:53:53.000 Well, just crash out.

00:53:55.000 Just crash out from there.

00:53:56.000 And then what?

00:53:57.000 Then no more.

00:53:58.000 And that's that. 0.99

00:53:59.000 Where's the fucking news? 0.99

00:54:00.000 That's what people... 1.00

00:54:02.000 You You

00:58:22.000 You So you can get that all the way up into your-

00:58:31.000 Oh no!

00:58:32.000 Hang on! 0.81

00:58:33.000 Come on! 0.61

00:58:34.000 We're back baby!

00:58:34.000 The government tried to bring us down!

00:58:37.000 The mainstream tried to bring us down!

00:58:38.000 But they got it discovered there's a new guy in town!

00:58:40.000 He called on Russell Brand!

00:58:42.000 Oh was it UFOs?

00:58:45.000 Could it have been UFOs?

00:58:46.000 Interrupting us from frequencies!

00:58:48.000 We're back baby!

00:58:49.000 We're backer than ever!

00:58:51.000 Asking the question, is it possible to lactate at will?

00:58:57.000 Was that the question we were asking?

00:58:59.000 Has to do with extraterrestrials, wasn't it?

00:58:59.000 Is it?

00:58:59.000 No, no.

00:59:01.000 We're asking whether or not you want to have a little peek, a little sneak peek for a man or woman. 0.99

00:59:07.000 We've all got nipples, baby. 1.00

00:59:07.000 Anyone. 1.00

00:59:09.000 We've all got nipples. 0.98

00:59:10.000 You keep squeezing, something could come out. 0.99

00:59:13.000 That's what I say.

00:59:13.000 Sometimes I think that these thoughts and questions don't come from that computer.

00:59:17.000 I think they're just in your mind.

00:59:19.000 True nature's child.

00:59:19.000 Here we go.

00:59:20.000 I like to squeeze my nipples all the live long day. 0.97

00:59:23.000 So what if I do, baby? 0.98

00:59:25.000 That's not from the computer, is it?

00:59:26.000 Ashella.

00:59:27.000 Yeah! Who give a damn? 0.97

00:59:29.000 Interesting stuff.

00:59:30.000 And then Katie, Beth. 1.00

00:59:32.000 You can get buttercream frosting for cupcakes out of your nipples. 1.00

00:59:36.000 Is this real? 1.00

00:59:38.000 No.

00:59:39.000 I'm not saying things now.

00:59:40.000 Here we are broadcasting live on the internet all over the world.

00:59:44.000 There's not a single place on this planet that you can't gain access to Rumble.

00:59:46.000 Except for France.

00:59:47.000 They won't allow it there.

00:59:48.000 It's not right, is it?

00:59:50.000 The French.

00:59:51.000 Because they would love it as well, the French.

00:59:52.000 Although they don't like things that aren't French.

00:59:54.000 Is that right?

00:59:55.000 No.

00:59:56.000 Also, they've got a lot of protesting of other things at the moment.

00:59:58.000 Sacrebleu!

01:00:00.000 Rumble! 0.62

01:00:02.000 I do not trust this Riddler!

01:00:04.000 He's always tormenting Batman!

01:00:07.000 Yeah.

01:00:07.000 That's it.

01:00:08.000 That's the main thrust of the argument.

01:00:09.000 I'm sick and tired of this riddle! 0.99

01:00:12.000 It's always tormenting the black man! 1.00

01:00:16.000 Batman, yeah. 0.99

01:00:20.000 There you go, baby.

01:00:21.000 Yep, we're on the internet.

01:00:22.000 So listen, we've got options, we've got options.

01:00:24.000 We can either call Saga and Jetty back on here.

01:00:27.000 What?

01:00:28.000 Talk to you a bit longer.

01:00:29.000 No, I don't think that's an option.

01:00:30.000 Can't do that.

01:00:30.000 No.

01:00:31.000 Crystal or Kyle Kozinski.

01:00:33.000 No.

01:00:34.000 Or we can just say stuff at random arbitrarily that doesn't necessarily make sense.

01:00:41.000 It's not necessarily true.

01:00:45.000 Oh, there's an advert in it.

01:00:46.000 There's an advert in our video.

01:00:49.000 Have they been paid to be in the stream?

01:00:54.000 No, they haven't.

01:00:55.000 You hesitated.

01:00:56.000 So we don't have to do that at all.

01:00:58.000 We're completely free.

01:00:58.000 You can do whatever I want, which is always what this whole business was set up to do anyway.

01:01:04.000 And if there's one sure way to get me to not do something, it's to tell him what to do.

01:01:09.000 Rookie error.

01:01:10.000 Never do that.

01:01:10.000 Rookie error.

01:01:11.000 Rookie error.

01:01:13.000 OK, so let's see what people are talking about on the chat.

01:01:16.000 OK, he literally has disobeyed you.

01:01:18.000 Yeah, no, of course.

01:01:19.000 Like, I mean, oh, you could press that button in there and then see the consequences of that play all the time.

01:01:24.000 Yeah.

01:01:26.000 So...

01:01:28.000 A lot of time.

01:01:30.000 Is there any good questions or comments?

01:01:32.000 People are saying stuff like policy injuries could be a check and balance against power or better yet implementing liquid democracy which allows one to directly vote on an issue or delegate your vote to anyone you choose to represent you.

01:01:43.000 People are actually doing, asking responsible questions and And advancing the conversation.

01:01:48.000 Nothing to do with apples.

01:01:49.000 Some people, Ashela, show us the gallery.

01:01:51.000 Let's have a look what's going on in the gallery right now.

01:01:53.000 Turn off the frosting.

01:01:54.000 You see what we start with is a frosted window like that.

01:01:57.000 We turn it off and that reveals some of the production team have gone home early.

01:02:03.000 That's one of the things that's happened.

01:02:05.000 You can see that now.

01:02:06.000 That's probably why that computer crashed for a moment.

01:02:09.000 That is forming a narrative.

01:02:12.000 It's a narrative analysis.

01:02:13.000 He's been out there now.

01:02:14.000 It's been broadcast already.

01:02:16.000 Look at my... Dan, show the dog Bear just at the door there.

01:02:21.000 Bear! 0.98

01:02:23.000 Come on then.

01:02:24.000 Good boy.

01:02:25.000 There's that boy.

01:02:26.000 Look at him.

01:02:27.000 See if you can let him in while holding him in shot.

01:02:27.000 Let him in, Dan.

01:02:29.000 Go to that shot.

01:02:30.000 Go to that shot. 0.52

01:02:31.000 Direct him from the floor now.

01:02:34.000 There he is.

01:02:34.000 Show it.

01:02:35.000 Thank you.

01:02:36.000 There he is.

01:02:36.000 What a good boy.

01:02:37.000 What a fantastic lad.

01:02:37.000 Yeah.

01:02:39.000 Hello!

01:02:39.000 You alright?

01:02:40.000 There you are in reality.

01:02:41.000 My God, because I was watching that on television.

01:02:42.000 It was actually surprising when it happened.

01:02:44.000 I've had that happen before.

01:02:45.000 There he is, isn't he lovely?

01:02:46.000 Here you go, mate.

01:02:47.000 Good lad, good lad.

01:02:49.000 So listen, we're going to show you a little bit of our presentation about Tucker leaving Fox News.

01:02:49.000 All right.

01:02:54.000 We've touched a little bit on Don Lemon, but what we're using it for mostly Is to demonstrate how the collapse of the economic models that the media were previously relying on, although this was before we heard sagas, interesting.

01:03:09.000 He told us plainly that those cable networks being part of bundles is something that's likely to not be renewed.

01:03:15.000 So that will be causing all sorts of anxiety.

01:03:17.000 That'd be interesting.

01:03:18.000 We'll include that with our ongoing analysis.

01:03:20.000 But the stuff that we tell you about the collapse of their economic models, the rise of independent media, absolutely fascinating.

01:03:26.000 We won't come back We'll be back after this, so at the end of it I'll say leave your comments or whatever, but we're not coming back.

01:03:32.000 Let me know what you think about this subject and join us on Locals where people ask things like, Bob303, when's RFKJr coming on?

01:03:40.000 Soon!

01:03:41.000 We're bringing him on.

01:03:43.000 But stay and watch this because it's a fantastic presentation.

01:03:46.000 You're absolutely going to love it.

01:03:48.000 It's one of the best things we've made for a long time, would you say?

01:03:50.000 Sure.

01:03:54.000 Well, I just think we make a lot of great content.

01:03:55.000 Everything we make is fantastic.

01:03:56.000 I mean, look at today's show.

01:03:57.000 There's moments with a dog in it.

01:03:58.000 There's conversations about UFOs.

01:04:00.000 We've been going for 63 minutes.

01:04:01.000 This is all bonus content.

01:04:04.000 See you tomorrow, not for more insane, but for more different and enjoy this.

01:04:08.000 No, here's the effing news.

01:04:08.000 Here's the news.

01:04:10.000 Thank you for choosing Fox News.

01:04:12.000 Thank you so much.

01:04:13.000 No, here's the effing news.

01:04:16.000 Tucker Carlson has left Fox News and the mainstream media are celebrating.

01:04:20.000 But should they check themselves before they wreck themselves?

01:04:23.000 Because Tucker's departure could be the beginning of the end for the mainstream.

01:04:30.000 Tucker Carlson has left Fox News and I see this as a great harbinger, the beginning of the end for the mainstream.

01:04:37.000 A mainstream media that's been reduced to packaging and selling your data.

01:04:41.000 They do it more than even porn sites, check those facts for yourself.

01:04:45.000 A mainstream media that siphons us off into silos, turns us against one another, plays to the gallery, Preaches to the converted, has got nothing original to say, and serves the government rather than the public they were set up to inform.

01:05:00.000 Let's get into the story and see how the mainstream are reporting on Tucker's departure.

01:05:06.000 Right now, the media landscape is significantly different than it was just two hours ago, with two of the highest profile cable hosts out of a job.

01:05:14.000 Oh yeah, and Don Lemon left CNN as well.

01:05:16.000 First, the news that Tucker Carlson, who was regularly drawing 3 million viewers a night, parted ways with Fox News.

01:05:24.000 And then, just an hour later, Don Lemon tweeting he is out at CNN after 17 years with that network.

01:05:31.000 The media is obsessed with itself.

01:05:33.000 It's in a sort of narcissistic spiral, reporting on its own perspectives, its own heroes, and its own villains.

01:05:41.000 What is the mainstream media supposed to be for?

01:05:43.000 Just for a moment, remind yourself that it's actually about giving you information about important stuff, like how the government are governing, about how corporations are behaving, the information that you need to live your life efficiently and effectively, so you're informed politically.

01:05:58.000 It doesn't do that.

01:05:59.000 You know it doesn't do that.

01:06:00.000 You know that the mainstream media is owned by certain corporate interests, you know that it gets all of its revenue from like the pharmaceutical industry, you know that they're tied up with the military-industrial complex, and you know that they support the state with only partisan distinctions between this party or that party defining their output.

01:06:18.000 They do not serve in your awakening.

01:06:21.000 They do not serve your empowerment.

01:06:24.000 Where Tucker Carlson goes next will inform us a great deal about our political landscape. If he joins an

01:06:30.000 independent news organisation, that's going to be fascinating. It will demonstrate where the

01:06:35.000 power is moving and it will show us why authoritarian, centralised systems of power are

01:06:40.000 doubling down on trying to censor and promote.

01:06:53.000 Wars, pandemics, lies, trickery.

01:06:56.000 My cats keep having kittens.

01:06:57.000 The last one's personal.

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