Stay Free - Russel Brand - FOX News To Pay WHAT?! The End Of Democracy?! - #111 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

00:00:00.000 Yeah, enjoy your life.

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00:00:11.000 This is your life. 1.00

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00:00:14.000 This is Stay Free with Russell Brand.

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00:00:27.000 Are you the new Snowden?

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00:00:55.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:01:03.000 Hello, this is Mercury.

00:01:04.000 Hi, this is Mercury.

00:01:05.000 Mercury is breaking in.

00:01:06.000 We've got a life up there.

00:01:07.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:01:12.000 Thanks for joining us live on the internet, on Rumble.

00:01:16.000 The first 10, 15 minutes we put up in all sorts of places, but after that, when I need to speak freely, we're exclusively available on Rumble.

00:01:23.000 And we're going to need to speak freely today because from Fox News, we've got Kat Timph, commentator that I met when I went on Greg Gutfeld this time.

00:01:32.000 Are Fox News going to be able to continue to pay people with their massive out-of-court settlement?

00:01:38.000 And does this mean The democracy is officially not rigged.

00:01:42.000 The elections are not rigged now because Fox making those claims on air while privately they exchanged texts saying that they didn't believe in themselves, which by the way sounds very similar to the American government's official stance on the Ukraine-Russia conflict, publicly saying this is a winnable war.

00:01:58.000 Go Ukraine! 0.55

00:01:59.000 Private round the back.

00:02:00.000 We ain't getting none of that territory back.

00:02:02.000 Never admitting that there are boots on the ground of US personnel.

00:02:05.000 These are the content of the recent leaks that you may not have heard about because all anyone will tell you is this guy calls himself the OG.

00:02:12.000 He's in chat rooms. 1.00

00:02:13.000 He probably masturbates into a sock! 1.00

00:02:17.000 That's not real proper news, is it? 0.99

00:02:19.000 We bring you real news, and real news will always be about establishment narratives, challenging them, and breaking down centralised power.

00:02:27.000 So, whilst we'll talk a bit about Fox News's payout, we'll be asking bigger questions.

00:02:32.000 Does this mean an end to systemic corruption?

00:02:34.000 Does this mean that the next time there's an election in your country, the side that loses won't be saying, the election was rigged?

00:02:41.000 And does it mean that the only answer is secession now?

00:02:44.000 That America needs to accept it's too vast a territory for one centralised, corporatised, lying, corrupt, globalist government and it's time to decentralise, devolve and bring true democracy to America.

00:02:58.000 Let me know in the chat if you think that's the kind of direction that America should

00:03:01.000 head in, or should they double down on authoritarianism, censorship, surveillance, the way things

00:03:05.000 appear to be going.

00:03:07.000 If you're living in New York City now, watch your back, there's a digidogger coming your

00:03:11.000 way.

00:03:12.000 Not having learned the basic lessons of Robocop, Robocops are being introduced and made to

00:03:17.000 sound all favourable and chummy with the use of the cute moniker, Digidogs.

00:03:22.000 Aww, aww, it's only a digidog that's tyrannising me.

00:03:26.000 What's that that just shot me in the back?

00:03:28.000 It was a digidog.

00:03:29.000 Oh, how can I stay mad at you?

00:03:31.000 Would you like another silicon chip?

00:03:33.000 Would you?

00:03:34.000 Would you like a semiconductor?

00:03:34.000 Would you?

00:03:36.000 We ain't going to Taiwan, baby.

00:03:38.000 Not now, not never.

00:03:39.000 Unless it becomes profitable.

00:03:41.000 Once we click over to being exclusively on Rumble, we're going to bring you a breathtaking, mind-bending, bone-breaking tale about China potentially developing a certain medicine even before a particular outbreak was even recognised.

00:03:57.000 Begging the question, if the outbreak hasn't happened yet, how come they're developing a medicine for it?

00:04:02.000 Is this a conspiracy theory?

00:04:04.000 Or is this just another one of those news stories that the mainstream will be reporting six months to a year down the line?

00:04:10.000 Let me know in the chat which you think it is.

00:04:13.000 Fox settled out of court for saying that the Minions voting machines are faulty.

00:04:13.000 So there it is.

00:04:17.000 Turns out they're some of the best damn voting machines that money can buy. 0.98

00:04:21.000 Fantastic stuff. 0.98

00:04:23.000 In other news, there's a new voice in town.

00:04:27.000 There's a new political power rising up.

00:04:29.000 There's a man who will embrace vulgarity with a brazenness here too far not seen.

00:04:35.000 We've often said on this channel that Donald Trump's power is drawn from the fact that within systemic corruption, a person that embraces vulgarity, a person that can say, yeah, I know there are tax loopholes.

00:04:46.000 I used them.

00:04:47.000 I know the system's rigged because I participated in rigging it.

00:04:51.000 We'll be looking right now Donald Trump's magnificent cards and later we'll be looking at some Democrat corruption too that suggests that they're in no position to attack Trump.

00:05:02.000 That's why he is Teflon to their slurs because they ain't got no basis upon which to attack him.

00:05:09.000 Joining me for all of this and more is my very very neatly dressed on-screen assistant Gareth Roy.

00:05:18.000 Oh, thank you.

00:05:19.000 I've given you your phone.

00:05:20.000 Did you like that?

00:05:22.000 I thought I would do that.

00:05:22.000 To be announced.

00:05:23.000 I thought I'd give you an on-screen announcement.

00:05:25.000 Are you the sort of person who would, under any circumstances, get a Donald Trump collectible card?

00:05:30.000 Well, I don't know.

00:05:31.000 I imagine it's a very low-key advert for it.

00:05:31.000 I'd have to see.

00:05:34.000 He doesn't exaggerate the significance of these cards.

00:05:37.000 He doesn't suggest that they're important non-fungibles.

00:05:41.000 Fungible is not a word you ever thought would make it into the mainstream, but here it is.

00:05:45.000 Fungible is here to stay.

00:05:47.000 We'll be talking about Foxy's out-of-court settlement, but let's have a look at Donald Trump's latest gambit.

00:05:52.000 It's pretty cool.

00:05:53.000 Have a look.

00:05:54.000 Hello again, this is your favourite president, Donald Trump, with some news you are going to... Do you think he, like, records that onto a phone?

00:06:00.000 Do you think that someone just puts a phone and goes, oh, we're doing some more of them cards?

00:06:03.000 Yeah.

00:06:04.000 And then he just does that?

00:06:05.000 I agree.

00:06:05.000 Yeah.

00:06:06.000 I bet he does it in one take.

00:06:07.000 One take, easy.

00:06:08.000 I really love... A few months ago, we almost broke the internet when I announced my Trump digital trading cards.

00:06:14.000 These beautiful Trump cards made...

00:06:17.000 It's interesting because we have progressed beyond irony, beyond the post-modernity, where Trump, far from being embarrassed about an image of himself as a firefighter or as a rock star, literally will embrace it.

00:06:31.000 And I reckon that That tells you that we're living in something so lurid and so vivid that there's nothing that he can do, like when he famously said he could shoot someone on Madison Avenue, is that we're living in such a nihilistic maelstrom now, where we know that figures like Biden are only inadvertently honest in so much as they are like a kind of barely vivacious cadaver orating badly from the pulpit, that they somehow represent what they are without ever telling you the truth.

00:07:00.000 And stories like this one, like, oh, Fox have had to do this massive out-of-court settlement.

00:07:04.000 Hooray! 0.97

00:07:05.000 Hooray for democracy!

00:07:06.000 Hooray for justice!

00:07:07.000 Not really.

00:07:08.000 Clearly, America is systemically broken.

00:07:11.000 Clearly, the mainstream media is broken.

00:07:14.000 Clearly, you get no congressional options that mean anything.

00:07:18.000 In a system where there are wealth transfers in the trillions during a time of poverty and suffering, I'm referring to the pandemic, at a time where 50% of federal budgets go to the Pentagon, 50% of that then ends up in the military-industrial complex in private contractors' hands.

00:07:32.000 These are not the kind of policies that you want implemented, are they?

00:07:36.000 Let me know in the chat in the comments.

00:07:37.000 Would you go, oh yeah, could you send 10 billion to Taiwan?

00:07:39.000 That's happening.

00:07:40.000 10 billions going to Taiwan in aid.

00:07:41.000 Did you know that?

00:07:42.000 Did you vote for it?

00:07:43.000 Let me know.

00:07:43.000 I don't remember voting for it, but then I'm not American.

00:07:46.000 You know, all of these systems, all of this expenditure, is set up to support a system that requires constant war in its mouth.

00:07:54.000 It's a war-devouring machine.

00:07:56.000 All this stuff is a sideshow.

00:07:58.000 There's, in a sense, Trump's cards are as important as the Fox payout.

00:08:03.000 Or Hillary piously saying, oh, he used to say, lock me up. 0.75

00:08:07.000 Well, he should be locked up.

00:08:09.000 It's all, as we know now, theatre.

00:08:11.000 There is no meaningful difference between the actors on this stage.

00:08:16.000 No meaningful difference.

00:08:17.000 I know some of you have personal affinities with or affiliations for some of them, but I'm offering you this.

00:08:22.000 What difference does it really make if you don't make some systemic change?

00:08:25.000 Let me know.

00:08:25.000 Let me know in the chat or the comments.

00:08:26.000 Have a look.

00:08:28.000 Headlines all over the world because of the speed at which they sold.

00:08:31.000 Original cards sold out so fast, everybody is asking me to do another series.

00:08:37.000 Well, I've got some fantastic news for you.

00:08:39.000 My Trump digital trading cards are back with a bang.

00:08:43.000 Series 2, the new collection, features incredible artwork of me as a rock star and also as a monster trucker.

00:08:51.000 He has to list some of the ones to truck.

00:08:53.000 I wonder if they gave him an option which ones to highlight.

00:08:56.000 Which ones do you want to say?

00:08:58.000 Rockstar one, the trucker one.

00:09:00.000 Because he'll do so many that eventually they'll run out and it'll just be like standard things.

00:09:04.000 Me as a man collecting the bins.

00:09:06.000 Me looking at my own trump non-fungible cards.

00:09:10.000 It'll become sort of a self-devouring vortex of non-fungibility.

00:09:14.000 I love to collect baseball cards, but why settle for that?

00:09:17.000 Why settle for a baseball card?

00:09:18.000 I'm sick of this!

00:09:19.000 This is just baseball!

00:09:20.000 Yeah, with maybe some bubblegum in it or something.

00:09:22.000 It's not even very nice, bubblegum.

00:09:24.000 What's that powdery stuff on the surface?

00:09:25.000 Why is there a zigzag down it?

00:09:27.000 I don't want that!

00:09:28.000 I want a non-fungible Trump rock star.

00:09:31.000 Some odd hybrid of Elvis Presley and Jon Bon Jovi and Donald Trump.

00:09:35.000 And I'm willing to pay money for that, actually, to get it.

00:09:38.000 You can collect the greatest trading card in history by Trump Digital Trading.

00:09:42.000 Greatest trading card in history.

00:09:43.000 There's no way of measuring that.

00:09:45.000 There's no way of measuring that.

00:09:47.000 Is there monetarily weight impact? 0.97

00:09:51.000 What metric do you use to make these claims, dammit? 0.90

00:09:55.000 But in a world of pure theatre, then why not have this? 0.95

00:09:59.000 If Jake Tapper can turn up on CNN saying, you're not going to believe this, Fox claiming to be a news outlet, When CNN as you know and I know it every bit as bad is in a sense only different by degree.

00:10:13.000 Have a look now at Jake Tapper on CNN.

00:10:15.000 Let's have a look.

00:10:18.000 Trump's trying to put a positive face on what can only be interpreted as one of the ugliest and most embarrassing moments.

00:10:26.000 That's performance.

00:10:27.000 He's shaking his head, right?

00:10:29.000 He's performing the news.

00:10:31.000 The graphics are grandiose, filled with pomposity and self-importance.

00:10:37.000 So Trump's cards, which will be being mocked all over TV now, you'll see them being mocked on late night stuff.

00:10:42.000 It's only an amplification of something that passes as ordinary mainstream reporting.

00:10:46.000 Look at this.

00:10:47.000 Oh, Fox calling themselves a news... I mean, I can't believe... I can't believe I'm going to say this.

00:10:51.000 I'm going to actually laugh.

00:10:53.000 This is performance.

00:10:54.000 So if the milieu becomes brazen vulgarity, then someone who is a master of brazen vulgarity will succeed in that landscape.

00:11:05.000 Not to mention that the system itself is so devoid of moral authority.

00:11:11.000 so incapable of delivering meaningful change that a master of rhetoric, a master of narrative

00:11:18.000 is going to succeed in that space.

00:11:20.000 In the history of journalism, Fox issued a statement saying, quote,

00:11:24.000 we are pleased to have reached a settlement of our dispute, dispute with Dominion Voting.

00:11:30.000 Dispute. Oh, it breaks me to even have to report this stuff.

00:11:34.000 Like, to have this level of haughtiness to speak from a position of such piety, you cannot work for a network that has been involved in falsely reporting on the Russiagate stuff, the Steele dossier stuff, the Joe Rogan horse pace versus the other medicine.

00:11:52.000 We're still on YouTube, so I can't even say that.

00:11:54.000 You can't Work for an organization that has its own system of corruption in place.

00:12:01.000 You know, when I was in America, I got involved in a temporary spat with someone saying, no, MSNBC and CNN are meaningfully superior to Fox.

00:12:08.000 And is that it?

00:12:09.000 Is that the conversation you want to have now?

00:12:11.000 You don't want to have the conversation about, look, this is really what CNN are involved with.

00:12:16.000 They promoted the debunked narrative that Trump colluded with Russia.

00:12:20.000 They spent months downplaying Hunter Biden's laptop.

00:12:23.000 They got involved in all that Joe Rogan stuff.

00:12:26.000 Let's have a look at some genuine systemic corruption.

00:12:28.000 Have a look at some meaningful numbers and figures that will not be changed as a result of Fox's payout.

00:12:34.000 Look, The Pentagon spent 14 trillion after 9-11.

00:12:37.000 55% of it went to for-profit defense contractors.

00:12:40.000 You know that already.

00:12:41.000 You know that they are agitating to increase Pentagon budgets, even now, while the Pentagon consistently keeps failing audits.

00:12:49.000 Is that today's video or are we doing that another day on Here's the News?

00:12:52.000 There's so much stuff coming today.

00:12:53.000 I think we're talking about robots arresting you in... Robots dressed as dogs arresting you in New York City, for your own good, mind.

00:13:00.000 Military contractors have spent $2.5 billion on lobbying over the past two decades.

00:13:04.000 So in a way, the claim that's being made is Fox News shouldn't have said the election was rigged.

00:13:10.000 The election isn't rigged.

00:13:11.000 Democracy is fine.

00:13:13.000 But in 2016, when Trump won, The Democrats spent years after saying, oh, it's Russiagate, it's Russiagate, it's not a legitimate... That's what they did.

00:13:21.000 And now subsequent to this election, Trump saying, oh, it's corrupt.

00:13:25.000 These machines, you know, like a variety of... And you at home might think it's rigged, but whether it is rigged or not rigged, it's corrupt anyway.

00:13:33.000 Why would we quibble about the minutiae of the corruption when you can look at numbers like this that tell you in plain sight Indefatigably, what the problem is, the problem is at the very top of the machine are elite institutions that require war, that require sickness, that require your poverty in order to function.

00:13:55.000 As long as that remains a fact, as long as you cannot vote against that, you are going to live Basically, in a system that's somewhat like this.

00:14:04.000 Because no one's saying, when I get into power, what we're going to do is we're going to ensure that the Pentagon's budgets are in line with necessary expenditure, we don't get involved in unnecessary foreign wars, and we're going to make sure that that money ends up supporting the actual troops that we use as the metaphors and symbols for patriotism, but are willing to end up on the streets, homeless, living on food stamps.

00:14:27.000 We've got stats and data on that stuff if you want it.

00:14:30.000 Soon after the Ukraine war broke out last year, Congress voted to appropriate $40 billion of aid in Ukraine.

00:14:35.000 You didn't get to vote for it, but you were propagandized, so you couldn't think straight about it.

00:14:39.000 And that's not to say Russia's invasion isn't criminal, even if they were agitated by NATO expansionism.

00:14:44.000 It's still a criminal invasion.

00:14:46.000 But this $40 billion of aid in Ukraine, do you think that all ended up as like blankets wrapped around little kids in Kiev?

00:14:53.000 Or do you think that Raytheon and Lockheed Martin saw some of that money?

00:14:56.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:14:57.000 Let me know in the comments.

00:14:58.000 Every single Democrat voted for it, while 40 Republicans urged Joe Biden to include a 5% increase.

00:15:03.000 Both sides basically the same.

00:15:05.000 And of course, to give you a bit of big picture stuff, billionaires added $5 trillion to their fortunes during the pandemic.

00:15:11.000 How did your business get on?

00:15:13.000 How did your lifestyle improve during that period?

00:15:15.000 Let me know in the comments.

00:15:17.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:15:18.000 So essentially we're having conversations and arguments that are confined to territory that cannot meaningfully affect change.

00:15:25.000 That's the game.

00:15:25.000 It's the only game in town.

00:15:27.000 Pious posturing by career politicians that are basically performers.

00:15:30.000 And here's one of the best.

00:15:32.000 Hillary Clinton sat strapped up in blue, haughtily Mmming her way through an interview.

00:15:38.000 Mmm, she says a lot.

00:15:39.000 I don't know what's going on.

00:15:40.000 I don't know if she's having a particularly, a particularly delicious boiled sweetie, or if she's on the precipice of some other kind of bodily bliss, but she's saying mmm all the way through it.

00:15:50.000 More than mmm-bop.

00:15:52.000 I ain't heard this much mmm-ing since mmm-bop. 0.92

00:15:54.000 Have a look at her.

00:15:55.000 America goes to the polls.

00:15:57.000 Donald Trump is running for president while under criminal indictment.

00:16:01.000 This the man who back in 2016 consistently accused you of law-breaking and actively encouraged chants of lock her up directed at you.

00:16:11.000 It's pretty ironic isn't it that he is now... I'll tell you what, it's also pretty ironic.

00:16:18.000 It's ironic!

00:16:19.000 That, in their self-described Pied Piper strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new mainstream of the Republican Party in order to try to increase Clinton's chance of winning.

00:16:34.000 The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.

00:16:42.000 That's ironic.

00:16:43.000 That's real irony.

00:16:45.000 The irony is supporting campaigns that they regard as far-right, then finding themselves overwhelmed by those candidates.

00:16:52.000 That's a good and literal definition of irony.

00:16:54.000 Clinton's camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be elevated to leaders of the pack and media outlets should be told to take them seriously.

00:17:01.000 You know that the media that decries and attacks Donald Trump are financially dependent on him.

00:17:07.000 That's why they're willing to film hours of his aeroplane on the tarmac while Joe Biden crushes healthcare packages put in place by Trump that they claim they support.

00:17:20.000 It's theatre.

00:17:21.000 In this realm of theatre, Fox's out-of-court settlement is not a victory for democracy.

00:17:26.000 In this theatre, Trump's trading cards are not egregious, they're just another symbol of where we are.

00:17:35.000 Why not do that?

00:17:36.000 Why not have Donald Trump dress up as a rock star and treat it like kind of a serious thing or a fun thing or whatever?

00:17:44.000 We're living in this sort of post-modern, valueless expanse now, where anything goes, nothing has any real meaning.

00:17:53.000 Listen, in a minute we're going to click over to being exclusively on Rumble, talking about a story that I just can't believe is true.

00:18:00.000 It's one of those things we find ourselves reporting over here on Rumble.

00:18:03.000 The possibility that China were developing a particular medication Before that medication would have been needed because there was no such outbreak.

00:18:13.000 I'm being deliberately obtuse at the moment.

00:18:16.000 Deliberately cryptic because I know we are still on YouTube where we would receive strikes for that kind of information.

00:18:25.000 We've got a couple of quotes here that sum up the situation pretty beautifully.

00:18:30.000 This is by Gilles Deleuze.

00:18:31.000 Oh yeah, philosophy is it?

00:18:33.000 The fundamental problem of political philosophy is still precisely the one that Spinoza saw so clearly and that Wilhelm Rieck rediscovered.

00:18:39.000 Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation?

00:18:44.000 Why will we not awaken?

00:18:45.000 Why will we not attack real systemic problems?

00:18:48.000 Let's look at the Edward Said quote as well.

00:18:50.000 Well, not that one.

00:18:51.000 We ain't got time for that, darling. 0.99

00:18:52.000 Let's have a look at the shorter one.

00:18:53.000 There's one that's a lot more pithy.

00:18:55.000 Here we go.

00:18:56.000 Every empire, however, tells itself and the world that it is unlike all other empires, that its mission is not to plunder and control, but to educate and liberate.

00:19:05.000 We'll be talking more about the military-industrial complex and how it requires the unique claim that America is above and beyond all other nations in order to facilitate its ongoing interventionism that's ultimately a kind of sales tactic.

00:19:21.000 Is it time, Gail?

00:19:22.000 Are we off of YouTube now?

00:19:23.000 Because I'm like, I'm going to speak freely.

00:19:25.000 I'm going to speak very freely now.

00:19:27.000 But we're not going to be using freely acquired content.

00:19:30.000 Content acquired from young Putin.

00:19:34.000 That's Will Sutter's dad, who is the only person willing to subscribe to The Telegraph.

00:19:39.000 He's got us this story.

00:19:40.000 China began developing two COVID vaccines before the official outbreak.

00:19:45.000 Now, let us know, how could they have been doing that?

00:19:47.000 Does that mean that there was an outbreak elsewhere that they knew about?

00:19:50.000 Is there some Something, excuse me, that's not as nefarious as that headline would suggest.

00:19:55.000 Let me know because I can't think of it.

00:19:57.000 I can't think of it.

00:19:58.000 Chinese researchers may have begun developing two COVID vaccines in November 2019 before the official start of the outbreak.

00:20:05.000 What based on?

00:20:06.000 A hunch!

00:20:08.000 What was it that led them?

00:20:09.000 They had a hunch.

00:20:10.000 Well, I guess this is the argument.

00:20:11.000 This is the argument, isn't it?

00:20:12.000 That the whole time we've been told, not just by China, but also the United States, certainly initially, although it's been changing that narrative the whole time, that this didn't emerge from the lab.

00:20:21.000 But now you're discovering that if this is true, and they were creating vaccines, you know, in 2019, then obviously, one, it developed, it came from a lab, and two, they already knew about it.

00:20:32.000 You know, they already had COVID.

00:20:34.000 So someone in China, people in China had it.

00:20:36.000 So it's, I mean, it's potentially a massive thing if this is true.

00:20:39.000 That's the sort of story that the mainstream media should be covering.

00:20:43.000 Potentially it's more important than Foxy's out-of-court settlement.

00:20:46.000 The claims come in a 300-page document which concluded that the pandemic most likely came from a lab leak and was the result of a research-related incident in Wuhan.

00:20:56.000 That's a hell of a document.

00:20:57.000 It's a big story, because obviously this all relates to the pharmaceutical industry.

00:21:00.000 We know about ways in which the pharmaceutical industry would be damaged if these kind of revelations were to come out.

00:21:06.000 And it's interesting, just to kind of go back to the Fox fine, because one of the things you were talking about was the kind of hypocrisy of CNN making money from Trump.

00:21:15.000 But in terms of fines, and this being the biggest defamation fine in US history, obviously Pfizer, a company who now Biden is literally doing a $5 billion deal on the next generation vaccine with Big Pharma in the US, Pfizer's biggest fine is $2.3 billion for illegally promoting the use of four of its drugs.

00:21:34.000 So that's obviously far higher than the... Again, not to kind of in any way say that Fox weren't doing anything wrong.

00:21:41.000 They evidently were.

00:21:43.000 But we're talking about Pfizer, a company that now people, in the pandemic, people have been getting tattoos of, and people have been lauding Pfizer's achievements, and the people in Pfizer are heroes, and yet we go back a few years and they're paying fines of 2.3 billion dollars.

00:21:55.000 The narrative is very different.

00:21:57.000 The thing is with the Fox fines, it is wrong to broadcast something that you know to be not true, but that's Same claim can be leveled to the US government as a result of these recent revelations.

00:22:12.000 And ultimately, generally, whether or not the election was rigged, whether or not those machines are faulty, if you've got a feeling that your democracy isn't working, It's broadly true in the ways that we demonstrate it, because it's bought and paid for by donations and lobbies.

00:22:29.000 People in Congress own stocks and shares in the companies that they're supposed to regulate.

00:22:33.000 The military-industrial complex requires ongoing war.

00:22:36.000 The pharmaceutical industry benefits from sickness, illness, and indeed pandemics that potentially were caused as a result of research that they were undertaking before they even bloody revealed that there was a problem.

00:22:50.000 And the pharmaceutical industry just a couple of years before the pandemic, whereas Gareth points out they were presented to us as heroes and saviors, were making out-of-court settlements of significantly more than that because of drugs that they were illegally, erroneously, malfeasantly promoting.

00:23:08.000 That's as well without getting into other actors and players in the pharmaceutical space like

00:23:14.000 the Sackler family and all that Purdue gear and the opioid crisis that was knowingly

00:23:17.000 induced just because it would be profitable and as it becomes more diffuse and more systemic

00:23:22.000 the mental health crisis, the despair, even if you're not yet suicidal or on drugs.

00:23:28.000 You might have the feeling that you're living in an unfair system, devoid of meaning, where you have no power or traction in your own life, where you're eating food that isn't good for you, where you're consuming information that is untrue, where you're living a lifestyle that's not connected to who you really are.

00:23:45.000 And I don't even mean that in an ideological or philosophical way, I mean that in an anthropological way.

00:23:50.000 You're not living in connection to nature.

00:23:52.000 You're not connected to your inner self.

00:23:53.000 You're living primarily, fundamentally, ultimately, in an illusion.

00:23:58.000 So, oh, okay, those voting machines are good.

00:24:02.000 Woohoo! 1.00

00:24:02.000 Let's all go back to sleep. 1.00

00:24:03.000 Everything's fine. 0.98

00:24:04.000 It's ridiculous. 0.78

00:24:05.000 It's not a victory. 0.98

00:24:06.000 You watch how it's presented in the mainstream.

00:24:08.000 It'll be like, what a triumph!

00:24:09.000 The same people that are willing to take Pfizer's advertising dollars, knowing that Pfizer have paid bigger out-of-court settlements than that.

00:24:18.000 So there's your justice, there's your triumphant system.

00:24:21.000 It's interesting that obviously all this focus is on lies about elections, what's going on

00:24:26.000 with Fox at the moment, but what's not being concentrated on is what about lies within

00:24:30.000 terms of government?

00:24:32.000 You know, it's one thing about the election result and, oh, was it real, or should it

00:24:36.000 have gone to Trump, should it have gone to Biden?

00:24:38.000 But the concentration isn't on, what about when either of those actually gets into government

00:24:42.000 and what lies occur with the promises that are made and the promises that are broken,

00:24:46.000 whoever gets into power at the time, those are the things that we should be focusing

00:24:50.000 on.

00:24:51.000 The Ohio train crash.

00:24:53.000 How did that go down?

00:24:55.000 How was that environmental disaster handled?

00:24:57.000 Where did all the ecological rhetoric go at a time when it would have been relevant and helpful?

00:25:03.000 What about the capping of big pharma prices handled in a way as to allow pharma to continue to profit and only tokenistic changes made to their pricing models?

00:25:15.000 What about the suggestion that people were going to be released from prison because of cannabis?

00:25:19.000 The whole thing It's theatre! 0.85

00:25:21.000 So, like, Donald Trump's mad, non-fungible bloody cards, in that environment, make as much sense as anything else. 0.79

00:25:29.000 There's no one in the political sphere on a plinth high enough to talk down to him. 0.86

00:25:35.000 That's the problem, in my opinion.

00:25:37.000 All of their haughtiness, all of their condemnation of the kind of people that find Donald Trump's bombast appealing, his attitude on camera, his willingness to plain speak in places where diplomacy governs to the point of duplicity.

00:25:53.000 All of those people, they ain't got a leg to stand on anymore.

00:25:57.000 The facts point to that.

00:25:59.000 The figures demonstrate that.

00:26:02.000 And what I suppose we say, speculatively, is these are the observable symptoms of a very, very sick system indeed.

00:26:10.000 Remember when Greenwald come on here? 0.98

00:26:11.000 Glenn Greenwald, Pulitzer Prize winning conspiracy theorist, married gay man and right-wing Nazi fascist. 0.90

00:26:17.000 He said that clearly a decision's been made not to placate the masses, to use a sort of just a pat term, anymore by, you know, the bread and circuses modality. 0.94

00:26:28.000 Now they're arming themselves.

00:26:30.000 Now they're making their surveillance within an inch of our lives.

00:26:33.000 They're creating new anti-protest laws.

00:26:36.000 They're watching our every move.

00:26:38.000 They're censoring counter-narratives.

00:26:40.000 And just in case that don't work, there are robo-dogs out on the street.

00:26:45.000 They've finally come up with a name that makes them sound inoffensive.

00:26:48.000 It's Digidog.

00:26:49.000 That sounds sort of quite nice.

00:26:50.000 Cute.

00:26:51.000 I like the sound of a digidog.

00:26:52.000 I'd get one of those.

00:26:53.000 But it's not actually a dog, though, is it?

00:26:56.000 It's a quadruped cop. 0.98

00:26:59.000 It's a quadruped fascist cop. 0.81

00:27:02.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:27:02.000 It doesn't have an ideology, actually, does it?

00:27:03.000 It's just some programming.

00:27:05.000 Unless AI gets involved.

00:27:07.000 Uh-oh.

00:27:07.000 Then what?

00:27:08.000 What if AI starts, I don't know, using Wi-Fi to start manipulating their digidogs?

00:27:13.000 So many questions, so few answers.

00:27:15.000 But what I love about this story Is the way that the New York officials present this information as inevitable, as progress, as good for you, as a safety measure, rather than admitting that what it could potentially be viewed as is a safeguard

00:27:34.000 for an inevitable future of public unrest and protest and uprising, preventing the possibility that human law enforcement officers might not be willing to shoot their own.

00:27:47.000 Digidog don't have that problem, and Digidog is coming to you in New York, New York.

00:27:54.000 So good, they named it, governed it, and tyrannized it twice.

00:27:58.000 Here's the news.

00:27:59.000 No, here's the F in news.

00:28:09.000 New York are bringing in robo-cops in order to police the population as protests become more likely.

00:28:16.000 But the smart thing they've done is to persuade us that these things are actually cute little digi-dogs.

00:28:24.000 As the world becomes more corrupt, as the media becomes more hypocritical, as protests become more likely, the establishment is finding ingenious new ways of policing us with terrifying, aggressive robots which are sort of posing as cute, lovable robo-dogs.

00:28:40.000 Robots will now take their place beside the city's men and women in blue.

00:28:45.000 CBS 2 political reporter Marcia Kramer shows us the mayor says he is calming the world for the latest technology to put the NYPD at the forefront of fighting crime.

00:28:54.000 Forefront.

00:28:55.000 Progressive.

00:28:55.000 They're making this look like natural progress.

00:28:58.000 For a little while they've been trying to normalize those robots.

00:29:01.000 They're getting us used to the idea that not only is uniformed authority able to tell us what to do, or bureaucratic information through your phone or through your letterbox or whatever, but now cyber authority is being introduced.

00:29:15.000 Look at the way that the media tells you that this is not the intervention of centralized power introducing new ways to control you should you find yourself interested in challenging authority.

00:29:27.000 No, this is progress.

00:29:28.000 New York's always been at the vanguard.

00:29:30.000 It's the greatest city in the world.

00:29:32.000 Why shouldn't we be oppressing you in new and novel ways?

00:29:35.000 This is being sold to you as an advance, as progress.

00:29:39.000 We've already been softened up and pummeled into thinking we need this stuff.

00:29:43.000 You have to be terrified to accept the way that we are governed generally.

00:29:48.000 You have to believe that there are enormous threats, whether it's terrorist threat, or germ threat, or Russia threat.

00:29:54.000 If you think that basically human beings are like you and there's a bit of good in the worst of us and a bit of bad in the best of us and we all muddle along and we can probably organize our own communities, then there's no need for them to put robot dogs on the street, cream profits off everything, set up an infrastructure where democracies are is a kind of charade where corporate and financial elites

00:30:14.000 secretly run everything, not so secretly these days even. Look at the framing of this. It's

00:30:18.000 important that you're told, great news everyone, there's robot dogs on the street. Of course they're

00:30:23.000 going to say initially there's no plans for them to be armed, we're never going to arm

00:30:26.000 them. Yeah of course they're going to say that, then there'll be some other crisis

00:30:29.000 because they've already made us believe it's a good thing to have robo-dog out there.

00:30:33.000 And it, by the way, is not a dog, is it?

00:30:35.000 Like, when you think of the attributes of a dog, loyal, friendly. 0.99

00:30:38.000 Dogs wouldn't have caught on as man's best friend if they were aggressive policing bastards. 0.96

00:30:44.000 From our earliest days, dogs would come by the campfire, or wolves as they were then, and they'd come there and they'd police us. 0.99

00:30:51.000 Hey, what are you doing?

00:30:52.000 How did you cook that antelope? 1.00

00:30:54.000 Mind your own fucking business, you little bastard! 1.00

00:30:56.000 From a galaxy far away, or at least Times Square, the NYPD enters the 21st century with crime-fighting robots to patrol subway stations or the crossroads of the world. 1.00

00:31:06.000 They're all about the future.

00:31:08.000 Star Wars, making it innocuous, banal, even fun.

00:31:12.000 Oh wow, it's just like R2-D2!

00:31:13.000 No, it's not like R2-D2.

00:31:16.000 It's like the Empire.

00:31:18.000 It's like you're being controlled undemocratically by a centralized force.

00:31:21.000 Who do you think those robots are gonna work for in the event that there are massive uprisings?

00:31:26.000 Do you know what's happening?

00:31:26.000 It's like, hey, you know what the problem is with the military and the police force?

00:31:30.000 Those people are drawn from ordinary blue-collar communities.

00:31:33.000 So when it comes to it, they might think, hey, I'm not willing to shoot my children and my grandma.

00:31:38.000 Robo-dog don't have that problem. 0.92

00:31:40.000 Hey, didn't I throw you a robo-bone yesterday? 0.98

00:31:43.000 Does not compute!

00:31:49.000 Not only does this robot sound an alarm, but it can also send messages.

00:31:53.000 It can scare you, it can snitch on you, is there anything it can't do?

00:31:53.000 Oh, great!

00:31:58.000 Love you.

00:31:58.000 Yes, it can really talk, either to people who need help or to the bad guys.

00:32:03.000 Yeah, people need help.

00:32:04.000 Oh, excuse me, I need some help, I was a bit free, I was doing what I wanted.

00:32:07.000 Comply!

00:32:08.000 Comply!

00:32:09.000 And who are those bad guys?

00:32:11.000 Are the bad guys whoever the state appoints that day to be bad?

00:32:15.000 Or is it the people that are releasing killer robots onto your streets?

00:32:18.000 And a robotic device called a digidog which is designed to assist the NYPD in investigating high-risk or hazardous incidents.

00:32:27.000 We want the public to know that the use of these technologies will be transparent, consistent, and always done in collaboration with the people that we serve.

00:32:36.000 Just the way things have been up till now really, always been pretty transparent, always a general feeling of service.

00:32:43.000 The culture sets up, I think, fake arguments that we're progressing because of these technological advances.

00:32:49.000 But let's not ignore the fact that what she's telling us is robot dogs are coming to police you.

00:32:55.000 Why?

00:32:56.000 For what reason?

00:32:57.000 The most innocuous reason is it saves money because it means that a normal person can't make pay demands to fulfill that role.

00:33:04.000 But at worst, it's that dog will do whatever it's programmed to do without a human conscience.

00:33:10.000 That's what it's about.

00:33:11.000 That's the long game here.

00:33:12.000 That's not cynical conspiracy theory.

00:33:14.000 Is it conspiracy theory that there was a massive wealth transfer in the last couple of years?

00:33:17.000 Is it cynical conspiracy theory that the police are being militarized all across America and much of the world?

00:33:23.000 Is it conspiracy theory that new protest laws are being introduced everywhere?

00:33:27.000 A conspiracy theory that the ability to surveil ordinary people whether they've committed a crime or not is increasing across the world.

00:33:33.000 Oh wow!

00:33:33.000 All these conspiracy theories come together to make one big not-a-conspiracy theory and nothing to worry about and just a dog trotting down your street shooting people.

00:33:42.000 The commissioner responding to intense community backlash the first time the NYPD tried to use the futuristic digi-dog during the de Blasio administration.

00:33:51.000 Some described it as a manifestation of overly aggressive police tactics used in poor communities.

00:33:57.000 Hey, this is a manifestation of overly aggressive police tactics!

00:34:01.000 What about now, a couple of years later?

00:34:02.000 Oh no, this is the forefront of progress now!

00:34:05.000 I believe that technology is here.

00:34:09.000 Uh, we cannot be afraid of it?

00:34:11.000 Yes we can!

00:34:12.000 We can be afraid of it!

00:34:13.000 Are you aware of what's going on with AI?

00:34:15.000 Are you aware of how much power these things are accumulating and generating and the possibility that it's attuned to forces and powers that we will never ever be able to confront?

00:34:24.000 You can tell in everything they're saying that they're trying to sort of covertly address the real problem.

00:34:29.000 Look, I know what this looks like.

00:34:31.000 It looks like we're putting robot dogs into the street which will lose normal cops their jobs and prevent there being human connection between those that are being policed and the police force.

00:34:42.000 Also enabling more surveillance, more power to big tech who you know you cannot trust already.

00:34:48.000 I know it looks like that but we can't be afraid of technology.

00:34:52.000 Can't we?

00:34:53.000 Because hold on I'm going inside myself.

00:34:55.000 I am afraid!

00:34:56.000 A number of groups attacked the city's latest foray into the 21st century, including Communities

00:35:01.000 United for Police Reform, which said, quote, we need to invest in housing, education, mental

00:35:07.000 health care and community programs that will keep us safe, not investment in new and expensive

00:35:12.000 technologies to criminalize us further.

00:35:15.000 That is the argument in a paragraph.

00:35:15.000 Brilliant.

00:35:18.000 They're aware of that argument, and they've made that decision. 1.00

00:35:20.000 We could either give them better housing, mental health care, fairer, less unequal societies, or we could take even more money and shoot those motherfuckers with robot dogs. 1.00

00:35:31.000 Oh, yeah, no, the robot dogs. 1.00

00:35:33.000 If we were not willing to move forward and use technology on how to properly keep cities safe.

00:35:39.000 Forward is a concept, by the way.

00:35:41.000 It's not like there's linear time.

00:35:43.000 Like, oh, we got to keep going with time.

00:35:45.000 What's happening?

00:35:45.000 Like, where's it going?

00:35:46.000 Do you think things are improving?

00:35:47.000 Like, I know people are saying, oh, the average person doesn't live on a dollar a day. 0.99

00:35:51.000 And back in medieval times, you had to suck on a chicken's ass to get through the afternoon. 0.99

00:35:55.000 I'm aware of all of that. 1.00

00:35:57.000 stuff. What I'm also aware of is a militarizing, tyrannizing, centralizing state. And we're being

00:36:03.000 told that it's transparent and progressive at gunpoint.

00:36:07.000 Then you will not keep up with those who are doing harmful things to hurt New Yorkers. That's

00:36:13.000 not true is it? There's not armies of like really progressive technological gangsters. Okay look at

00:36:19.000 what we've got now. We're running these protection rackets. Also we got this fucking terrifying

00:36:26.000 little gangster robot. 1.00

00:36:28.000 Give me 10% of your income as I shoot you down. 1.00

00:36:31.000 Are you laughing at me like I'm a clown? 0.98

00:36:33.000 There's not robot goodfellas out there.

00:36:35.000 The forces of evil and the forces of crime are not even invested in technology.

00:36:39.000 Look at the framing we have to accept.

00:36:40.000 That the state is there to protect you.

00:36:42.000 It is not.

00:36:43.000 Technology is inherently a good thing.

00:36:45.000 It is not.

00:36:46.000 Progress means more technology.

00:36:48.000 There are so many things that we're accepting, that there aren't different ways to improve communities, that there aren't massive conversations to be had about how communities are run.

00:36:48.000 It does not.

00:36:56.000 All of this is being bypassed essentially by a shiny robot and the people are so terrified and sort of bludgeoned with stupidity that they'll probably applaud that fucking thing and give it a parade. 1.00

00:37:06.000 New York City Mayor Eric Adams and the NYPD have reintroduced the DigiDog. 1.00

00:37:11.000 I'm not going to call it a dog, it's a robot policeman.

00:37:13.000 It's not even a robot policeman.

00:37:14.000 It's a cyborg.

00:37:15.000 It's a law cyborg.

00:37:17.000 It's a lawful cyborg.

00:37:20.000 A $74,000 robot that resembles a dog, except in the traits of loyalty, kindness, friendliness, and warmth, which was paused by the previous man.

00:37:27.000 Whoa, whoa, we better pause this. 0.99

00:37:29.000 People fucking hate it. 0.96

00:37:30.000 It was retired after civil rights advocates also deemed it aggressive policing. 0.99

00:37:34.000 That's why, because people went, hold on a minute, these robots coming into people's houses, is this right? 0.98

00:37:39.000 Oh shit, no, they've noticed. 0.98

00:37:40.000 No, yeah, we'll stop that. 1.00

00:37:41.000 We'll stop that for a couple of years till you're poorer and more desperate.

00:37:45.000 Loud people?

00:37:46.000 That's protesters.

00:37:47.000 Martin Luther King, Malcolm X. Just loud people opposed to tyranny.

00:37:50.000 Adams said at a press briefing.

00:37:51.000 Loud people?

00:37:52.000 That's protesters.

00:37:53.000 Martin Luther King, Malcolm X.

00:37:55.000 Just loud people opposed to tyranny.

00:37:58.000 They seem to be quiet now, since we shot them. 0.97

00:38:01.000 Bring on the cyborg dog! 1.00

00:38:03.000 NBC New York notes that the robot's use is being pushed through despite widespread public objections.

00:38:09.000 People don't want it.

00:38:10.000 People do not want RoboCop on the street.

00:38:12.000 Perhaps because they've seen the film RoboCop.

00:38:15.000 This announcement is another example of the NYPD's violation of basic norms of transparency and accountability by rolling out these technologies without providing the public a meaningful opportunity to raise concerns, the Legal Aid Society is quoted as saying, in objection to the move.

00:38:29.000 We've been through defund the police, we've been through the hatred of the police, now we're saying it's progress to turn the police into robots.

00:38:36.000 Another piece of tech called the K5 autonomous security robot is also being rolled out alongside the quadrupedal robot which NBC New York reports That's surveillance.

00:38:51.000 Surveillance robots on the streets, watching you, and then grassing you up to the authorities.

00:38:56.000 You know, because you're a criminal, or maybe you're just doing something that the state objects to.

00:39:00.000 And will be used to conduct automated patrol in confined areas both indoors and outdoors such as transit stations.

00:39:07.000 Every objection to police militarisation as a dangerous slippery slope has been 100% vindicated by history.

00:39:13.000 And there's no reason to expect that to change as they start rolling out cop bots.

00:39:18.000 As John and Nisha Whitehead explained last year for the Rutherford Institute, this ongoing expansion of police robot militarization tracks alongside the steadily increasing militarization of police forces in the U.S.

00:39:29.000 more generally.

00:39:30.000 SWAT teams first appeared in California in the 1960s.

00:39:33.000 By 1980, the U.S.

00:39:34.000 was seeing 3,000 SWAT team-style raids per year.

00:39:38.000 And by 2014, that number had soared to 80,000.

00:39:40.000 It's probably higher now.

00:39:42.000 In order to continue to fund the Cyborg Dog Cop, they will have to demonstrate that it's valuable and therefore show that it's being used in arrests and, oh, this neighbourhood's 10% more successful or whatever.

00:39:52.000 So once they introduce it, it never goes backwards.

00:39:55.000 Since the dawn of history, rulers have dreamed of having mindless, obedient soldiers who will never turn against them, will never disobey orders, And we'll never hesitate to attack the civilians of their own country when told to do so.

00:40:05.000 Cop bots are the final solution to the ancient problem that there are always a whole lot more ordinary people than there are rulers, because once they're fully militarized and fully rolled out, they can be used to subdue a population of any size.

00:40:17.000 Cop bots are the anti-guillotine.

00:40:19.000 When there are these uprisings in France, in Sri Lanka, in the Netherlands, in the US, when people are less and less satisfied with their government, more and more cynicism about inequality, about corruption in media and government, you could either create a fairer, more just democratic society, or you could send robots with guns out onto the street.

00:40:36.000 What do you think is more likely, given this news story?

00:40:39.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments.

00:40:40.000 Now the Oakland Police Department is pushing for the use of robots armed with shotguns.

00:40:45.000 Police have already used a robot armed with a bomb to kill a suspect in Texas.

00:40:49.000 Like all escalations in police powers and police militarization, the increasingly widespread use of police kill bots will be justified in the name of saving lives and protecting law enforcement officers, but we'll certainly see a rise in abuses of the new power.

00:41:02.000 More importantly, at least in the long term, once armed robots are being used to police civilian populations, the powerful will have made the possibility of a people's revolution against them far more remote.

00:41:12.000 So democracy doesn't work, protest doesn't work, surveillance is now possible, omni-surveillance almost, and now we have an armed police force of killer robot dogs.

00:41:22.000 What's the way out now?

00:41:23.000 How you gonna vote your way out of this one?

00:41:25.000 Flesh-and-blood armed police will hesitate to fire upon their countrymen in a domestic uprising.

00:41:30.000 They can be persuaded to side with the people and oust the sitting government.

00:41:34.000 They have beating hearts and aren't covered in armor.

00:41:37.000 AI-guided weapons robots are not yet enforcing the rule of law on our streets, but that does appear to be where we're headed.

00:41:43.000 And once we're there, it's entirely possible that the door to revolution will have been bolted shut for good.

00:41:48.000 If that's the case, then it's no exaggeration to say that humanity is in a race between A, a revolution against the status quo power structures which are oppressing and exploiting us while driving us towards disaster, and B, the ubiquity of armed police units.

00:42:01.000 Our rulers keep incrementally pacing us into accepting this in the same way they pace us into accepting internet censorship, whistleblower persecution, and the war on journalism.

00:42:11.000 And you can think of examples of each of those.

00:42:13.000 Whistleblowers who reveal information being smeared and dissenting voices being controlled, surveillance being increased, police being militarized, New protest laws, totally immersive surveillance.

00:42:24.000 All of these things are on the rise.

00:42:26.000 Even if you happen to agree with the government in your country now, and I bet you don't, let me know in the chat and the comments, surely you see now that this creates the possibility for a corrupt, centralized dictatorship to take total control of your country and ultimately the world.

00:42:42.000 We have to oppose measures like this while they're small enough to be crushed.

00:42:47.000 Otherwise, we may never get the chance again.

00:42:50.000 But that's just what I think.

00:42:51.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.

00:42:52.000 I'll see you in a second.

00:43:02.000 Election was rigged.

00:43:03.000 It was obvious.

00:43:04.000 This is all thea.

00:43:05.000 Some people, they're just... That's the way they are.

00:43:05.000 See?

00:43:08.000 Like Lane W believes that... Look at this!

00:43:10.000 Bob 303.

00:43:11.000 The whole system is rigged against the average citizen.

00:43:14.000 Jack 29er.

00:43:15.000 Nothing says these voting machines are good.

00:43:16.000 They settled our court.

00:43:17.000 We will never know.

00:43:18.000 It should have gone to fact-finding.

00:43:19.000 See?

00:43:20.000 People don't... Yeah, they go.

00:43:22.000 Look, but also on the, you can see the presentation we just made.

00:43:26.000 Mystic Kipper says, clip clops in flip flops.

00:43:29.000 That would soften the image.

00:43:31.000 You're right about that, Mystic Kipper.

00:43:33.000 Blessed old bird, these are tools.

00:43:35.000 This is what happens when someone hacks into the system.

00:43:38.000 Or what happens, is it?

00:43:39.000 Let me just work that out.

00:43:40.000 Yeah, what happens when they do?

00:43:42.000 We don't know yet, mate.

00:43:44.000 But it won't be good, I don't imagine.

00:43:46.000 Neongrammarion, how does clip-clop do when it's caught in a bear trap or falls into a camouflaged hole?

00:43:52.000 Well done.

00:43:53.000 The counter-clip-clop movement's begun, and it begun here.

00:43:57.000 We have got a fantastic guest joining us right now, a person that I have met and been on a TV programme with and sat on an armchair under bright lights looking at for a moment, having those sort of powerful moments of reflection that I often have when I'm on a television show where I start thinking about God and death and meaning.

00:44:17.000 And Greg Gutfeld.

00:44:18.000 And Greg Gutfeld, because it was his show, so I thought about him a bit.

00:44:20.000 I looked at him, wondered what he was like.

00:44:22.000 Sometimes I think about everyone's kidneys and everything, doing their jobs.

00:44:24.000 Think about all the cells regenerating.

00:44:26.000 Think about that we're in limitless space.

00:44:28.000 And then think, oh no, I'm being asked a question.

00:44:30.000 And he's got a bright jumper on.

00:44:31.000 Yeah, it's very bright.

00:44:32.000 But the guest...

00:44:34.000 I remember thinking that alongside the Thanos-like wrestler man, who I liked and was funny and made a couple of good jokes and seemed like a pretty nice guy actually, the person I liked who was opposite from me was Kat Timpf, whose book I hold in my hand now, you can't joke about that, which pictures her holding some booze in a microphone in a studded shoe, sat atop of a, I believe, A coffin.

00:44:56.000 And me and Kat Timpf are going to have a conversation now and talk about, I suppose, hate speech.

00:45:02.000 Also, Kat, you know, I met Kat on Fox.

00:45:04.000 We've got to talk about what's going on on Fox and all that stuff.

00:45:07.000 Kat, are you there, mate?

00:45:08.000 Are you there on the internet with us?

00:45:10.000 Yes, I am.

00:45:11.000 Hello.

00:45:12.000 It's lovely to see you.

00:45:14.000 So great to see you too.

00:45:15.000 Do you remember that time when we met each other and it was on Greg Gutfield?

00:45:19.000 Yes, yes we did.

00:45:20.000 We had some great conversations about binary thinking and the way that people in power like to play us against each other so that we don't pay attention to how corrupt things are getting and the way they're abusing their power and I've loved a lot of things that you've said sort of continuing in that exact direction.

00:45:37.000 Yeah, like, I've started to find, like, I'm having conversations with people that I've been trained to be suspicious of.

00:45:45.000 They're delightful, you know?

00:45:48.000 Delightful, friendly and open.

00:45:49.000 And not you necessarily.

00:45:50.000 I don't even know if you are a right-wing person.

00:45:52.000 I can't tell.

00:45:53.000 I've been looking at your book.

00:45:54.000 It seems to me that you're very interested in freedom and conversation and humour and fun.

00:46:03.000 Tell me, mate, this book, is the driving idea behind your book that ongoing censorship will ultimately be deleterious because we won't be able to muck about and have fun?

00:46:16.000 That's part of it, right?

00:46:17.000 And I'm a libertarian, so I'm not in either one of the two big teams.

00:46:22.000 The point of the book is all the things that we're not supposed to talk about, the things that we're not supposed to joke about, how harmful that is to the people who are actually going through tough things.

00:46:32.000 If you're going through trauma, You don't want to be treated weird by people who are too afraid to speak to you and maybe say the wrong thing and that applies to so many different things because ultimately we're all in this together and the only way that we're actually going to be able to survive is being able to openly communicate with each other about everything including political stuff and the stuff you shouldn't say but also stuff like like death which is why I'm sitting on a coffin on my book cover.

00:47:01.000 That's why you're sitting on that coffin?

00:47:04.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:47:05.000 I think that a lot of the debate is always about speech versus sensitivity, right?

00:47:11.000 But that really ignores the way that it can bring us together because every tough thing I've ever been through, one thing that got me through it was thinking, okay, well, I'm at least building a connection with everyone else who's been through it too, whether it was Losing my mom at a young age, being very, very broke starting out, or I had an emergency ostomy surgery in 2020.

00:47:30.000 Then I had a reversal where I had some complications and I was in the hospital actually on January 6th.

00:47:37.000 But what's the use if we can't talk about all of that stuff?

00:47:40.000 So we're actually limiting our ability to connect with each other and also to heal within ourselves because if something is really scary, then the best way to take away the power from that thing is to laugh in the face of it.

00:47:52.000 I saw Jon Stewart make a point like that, talking about some of the stuff that Kanye said, and it was one of the things I've most enjoyed.

00:48:00.000 Really, we get opportunities for conversation, although I suppose not everyone likes to talk about sensitive or traumatic issues, and I suppose, really, Kat, we want to foster a situation where you're not afraid to speak about stuff but neither are you afraid to be private.

00:48:21.000 It's this odd situation where public speech is being censored while simultaneously we're being surveilled and observed, criminalised and treated as people that need to be paternally handled and controlled.

00:48:34.000 So it's an interesting time to be an outspoken person.

00:48:39.000 You go on Fox and stuff, mate.

00:48:41.000 What do you find it like on there?

00:48:43.000 I mean, I had a really good experience when I went on both Tucker and on Greg Gutfield.

00:48:49.000 Tell me what it's like for you, how you started going on there, and then tell us a bit about what you think about the outcourt settlement and stuff, if you're comfortable talking about that and it doesn't put you in a compromising legal situation.

00:48:59.000 Right, well, I think this kind of goes back to a lot of the stuff you were saying, because, you know, I work on Fox News, but I work on The Late Night Show, so I wasn't covering the 2020 election.

00:49:09.000 But if you hear Fox News, you think it's a monolith, right?

00:49:13.000 People say, Kat, Tim, Fox News, and then they think in their head, okay, I now know everything that I need to know about this person, to the point where there are some people who won't even sit down and have a conversation with me.

00:49:24.000 They know nothing about me, they know nothing about my life, And I even saw that happen to you when you were a guest on Fox News, and all the things you were saying were about this binary thinking and, you know, the power systems.

00:49:36.000 And people said, oh, you went on Fox News, so now Russell Brand is a far right-wing person.

00:49:42.000 But that's how people in power maintain their power and grow their power, because we're so focused arguing back and forth with each other.

00:49:49.000 The place where I work, Doesn't say everything that there is to say about me and I think that that is very rarely the case and that keeps people from actually understanding each other or from noticing what's going on from the people in power who are just growing their power.

00:50:04.000 They're watching us.

00:50:06.000 We find that so we're not watching you that we find out and they were like, oh, but look at what this other side did.

00:50:11.000 I picked this team.

00:50:11.000 So but what this other side did was worse.

00:50:14.000 Yeah.

00:50:15.000 There's a real, like, pettiness and vanity in it.

00:50:19.000 Like I think Greg Gutfeld said when I was on there, like of me, Russell Brand don't like Fox News either

00:50:26.000 and the criticisms leveled at MSNBC and CNN are also being leveled at Fox.

00:50:32.000 But I suppose what I've found particularly troubling of late is the narcissism and the idea that CNN or MSNBC

00:50:41.000 are meaningfully superior to a more conservative Republican or right wing, however you wanna describe it,

00:50:49.000 outlet like Fox, that they aren't funded in ways that's compromising,

00:50:54.000 that they don't have a relationship with the government that's compromising.

00:51:00.000 These recent leaks, Pentagon Papers, part deux, show that people aren't willing to focus on the content

00:51:09.000 of the papers, instead focusing on the personality of the kid that made the revelations.

00:51:16.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:51:18.000 And it's even worse because this isn't new.

00:51:21.000 And then there's also the Afghanistan papers.

00:51:24.000 I mean, it's all built into the system that if you go to, I mean, my husband, he fought in Afghanistan and he said, when he was 10 years ago, he said, when I was there, I knew that what they were telling us or telling, you know, us, meaning the world that they were trying to do, that was never going to be possible.

00:51:39.000 But by telling people in power what they wanted to hear, oh, it's going great, it's going great.

00:51:44.000 That's how you get away with it.

00:51:46.000 These people get promoted.

00:51:47.000 A lot of the same people that were involved in that, and certainly the same systems, are doing all of this.

00:51:52.000 And you, yes, you focus on the leaker.

00:51:54.000 The leaker did this wrong.

00:51:55.000 And not the fact that we've all been lied to.

00:51:57.000 And I was suspicious of this the entire time because I'm awake.

00:52:02.000 And just like you were not a patriot if you question some of the stuff in the Middle East, if you question Ukraine, then you're a Putin puppet, right?

00:52:09.000 The more that they tell you you can't question something, the more that I think, I better look into this.

00:52:14.000 I bet that I'm being lied to.

00:52:15.000 And then again, they do that to shut you up.

00:52:18.000 And that's why in my book, so much talk about communication and questioning things.

00:52:23.000 And you have to think for yourself.

00:52:25.000 It is much easier to just say, oh, this is my side, because then all the thinking is done for you.

00:52:30.000 And no matter what you do, you'll have people on your side to back you up and point out how the other side is so much worse.

00:52:36.000 But the military-industrial complex lives on throughout that.

00:52:40.000 Yeah.

00:52:43.000 Cat Tim.

00:52:46.000 It does.

00:52:47.000 It's sick.

00:52:47.000 And it costs lives, but people make money and we're all just sitting there like, Oh, did you hear about that guy broke that law or what that person said, or that team is bad.

00:52:55.000 And I'm like, is anybody else paying attention to this?

00:52:59.000 Well yeah, we're paying close attention to it and what we're observing is that most of the stories that we cover are about how state regulation usually improves corporate interest ability to act upon their agenda.

00:53:17.000 That the media, generally speaking, highlight issues that are difficult to resolve and could easily be brought to some kind of conclusion by an acceptance of mutual tolerance and leaving one another alone.

00:53:28.000 and letting people be different.

00:53:31.000 There's a sort of an appetite to empower globalist, centralised authorities like the WHO.

00:53:38.000 I mean, we see it again and again, militarisation of the police force.

00:53:41.000 It kind of, what it feels like is the enhancement of centralised authority when what is required

00:53:47.000 is the decentralisation of power and the acceptance that there are a lot of different ways of being human.

00:53:54.000 Are you doing this interview on a laptop?

00:53:57.000 I sure am.

00:53:58.000 Why don't you roam around your house and show us stuff and give us a tour of the property?

00:54:03.000 Oh, this is my office, so this is it.

00:54:06.000 This is on the couch here and my wig's over there for my sketches that I do.

00:54:11.000 I'm just sitting in my office.

00:54:14.000 But, you know, again, I just want to add to that, you know, people who are working in government, you know, we pay their salary and they're supposed to be servants.

00:54:25.000 So obviously they get rich doing this, which should just tell you all that you need to know.

00:54:30.000 Also, you go in as a politician and you become super wealthy.

00:54:35.000 And again, we all allow this to happen and we don't ask any questions.

00:54:38.000 We all need to talk more and listen to each other more and not just say, OK, I think that I know what this person is because of this or that affiliation or in this team and that team, because it's just getting worse every day and they keep getting away with it and nobody seems to care.

00:54:52.000 Who do you want to read a bit of your book?

00:54:54.000 You, me or Gareth?

00:54:58.000 Go for it.

00:54:59.000 You got it open.

00:55:01.000 No one wants to hear you whine unless you're funny.

00:55:04.000 If you were alive during the spring of 2020, your spring was probably pretty rough.

00:55:07.000 If you weren't alive, then you're either a baby genius or a spirit from the underworld.

00:55:11.000 In either case, please reach out to me.

00:55:13.000 I have questions.

00:55:13.000 You know, if you're a spirit of the underworld.

00:55:15.000 Even if you didn't have any of the real problems associated with the COVID pandemic, like someone close to you dying, losing your job or your business, or having to spend all of your time at home with your children.

00:55:24.000 I like that.

00:55:25.000 It still probably really, really sucked.

00:55:27.000 All of life's simple joys were suddenly either illegal or impossible, especially in cities like New York.

00:55:33.000 Want to go out to dinner?

00:55:34.000 Too bad, that's illegal.

00:55:35.000 Want to go outside and feel some fresh air on your face? 1.00

00:55:37.000 Some dickhead is going to scream at you to put a mask on. 0.99

00:55:39.000 It was terrible. 0.99

00:55:40.000 I can't even imagine how club girls felt. 1.00

00:55:43.000 I mean, where are they supposed to wear their bandaged dresses and heels now? 1.00

00:55:46.000 Yeah!

00:55:47.000 Where are they?

00:55:48.000 This is just an extract from Kat Timp's book in which she sacrilegiously perches upon a wooden esophagus and waits for, well, waits for the general attitude around humour to radically alter.

00:56:07.000 Kat, thanks for coming on this show and talking to us.

00:56:11.000 Oh, it's been such a pleasure.

00:56:12.000 It's always great talking to you.

00:56:14.000 Why you got wigs in your office? 1.00

00:56:16.000 Because I've done Elizabeth Warren and Jen Psaki impressions.

00:56:20.000 And then I have some other... I have this other wig from another impression here.

00:56:25.000 Here is a participation trophy from 1996 when I played AYSO soccer.

00:56:31.000 You know, I got it all going on, but... Alf's over there.

00:56:36.000 Alf.

00:56:38.000 Alien life form.

00:56:39.000 He's there.

00:56:40.000 Yes, I've had that since I was a little girl.

00:56:43.000 Nice.

00:56:43.000 Keep Alf around.

00:56:45.000 He was alright.

00:56:46.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:56:47.000 Absolutely.

00:56:48.000 I watch a lot of Elf to help get me through a breakup.

00:56:51.000 I think comedy is super healing.

00:56:53.000 I consider comedy to be actually my religion.

00:56:55.000 I hope one day to believe in God again, but it's so healing and I think it's so important when everything else is so sad and disgusting going on around us to be able to speak the way we want to about it.

00:57:07.000 Yeah, sometimes I get so serious on the show because we're analysing things that seem really important.

00:57:11.000 You have to hold all of this dense information.

00:57:13.000 You have to be careful that you're not doing the things you're being accused of by your detractors of like, oh no, are we supporting conspiracy theories?

00:57:19.000 Are we being irresponsible?

00:57:21.000 But generally, we are able to maintain the line by talking to experts and a variety of people.

00:57:28.000 Every so often though, I feel like, oh man, I just need to stop taking life so seriously.

00:57:32.000 I've been doing that lately.

00:57:33.000 I've just fallen backwards into total frivolity.

00:57:37.000 Well, that's, I mean, I don't think that's falling backwards, right?

00:57:40.000 I think that people like to laugh, too.

00:57:42.000 So, if you can make people laugh, you can also get them to listen to you a little bit.

00:57:46.000 Because I think people get sick of the news being so depressing, so depressing, so depressing.

00:57:51.000 But also, at least, you know, you're not afraid to question things, which I think is super important.

00:57:56.000 Kat Timpf.

00:57:56.000 Thanks for coming on our show.

00:57:58.000 Get Kat Timpf's book.

00:58:00.000 You can't joke about that.

00:58:01.000 It's out now.

00:58:02.000 We'll put a link in the chat so that you can get it easily.

00:58:05.000 Thanks for joining us, Kat.

00:58:06.000 We'll see you again soon, I hope.

00:58:08.000 Yes, me too.

00:58:09.000 Yeah, mate.

00:58:10.000 Hey, guess who's on the show tomorrow?

00:58:12.000 Branko Marchatic.

00:58:13.000 She's going to be on.

00:58:14.000 You love him, don't you?

00:58:15.000 I think he's a very good journalist, yeah.

00:58:18.000 Don't try and make it a professional, love.

00:58:20.000 It isn't anything other than that.

00:58:22.000 It's nothing but professional admiration.

00:58:24.000 I haven't met him.

00:58:26.000 You've seen him online?

00:58:27.000 One day, that'd be nice, one day.

00:58:28.000 Yeah, that'd be nice.

00:58:29.000 Do you think he'll come in here in person?

00:58:30.000 Who knows, who knows?

00:58:32.000 Yeah, he's on tomorrow, so... That's good then.

00:58:35.000 Hopefully you can nurture your connection to him.

00:58:38.000 Yes, yeah.

00:58:38.000 I don't want you to sit there through the interview just quietly harbouring a resentment because I'm controlling the chat.

00:58:44.000 I mean, that's possible, I may do that.

00:58:46.000 I want you at some point during it to interject passionately and just say, Branko!

00:58:51.000 Well, I'm not... I'll have to read the room, Russell.

00:58:54.000 Yeah, don't do it if it doesn't seem right.

00:58:57.000 Also, we're talking about this poor US military lad who foolishly filled in a spoof form to become an assassin.

00:59:03.000 That's not how you become an assassin, is it?

00:59:05.000 By filling in forms?

00:59:06.000 Who knows?

00:59:07.000 How do you become one?

00:59:08.000 I don't know.

00:59:09.000 you're getting with the right crowd, the assassin crowd, I suppose. Let us know in the chat if you know how to become

00:59:12.000 one. Anyway, this poor lad's become a bit of a patsy and the object of mainstream ire. But really, the story, I

00:59:19.000 believe, when someone from the military is willing to become a spoof assassin is why aren't they earning enough

00:59:26.000 from their proper job being in the military? And what is the real story of criminality and corruption? Is it

00:59:33.000 military industrial complex, complex expenditure? Or is it one lad photographing himself

00:59:33.000 himself in front of a mirror with some snacks behind him. A bit like that other lad. Buddy

00:59:37.000 Texera. Whistleblower, gamer, OG, revealer of the simple fact that we've been lied to

00:59:44.000 about the Ukraine-Russia conflict. We'll also be talking to you about a potential cure for

00:59:50.000 long COVID. Yeah, you can sniff your way back to full health.

00:59:55.000 It seems ridiculous, but a lot of things are ridiculous these days.

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01:00:16.000 I also want to let you know that in the middle of July, we are doing a community festival.

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01:00:34.000 Kali Means is even coming with his sister as well, because apparently she inspired him to get into all this stuff.

01:00:39.000 I've not learned a lot about her yet.

01:00:41.000 But it's going to be a fantastic educational community event.

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01:00:50.000 Anyway, I suppose tomorrow is our last show of the week.

01:00:53.000 It's going to be absolutely fantastic.

01:00:54.000 Branko Marcicic will be there.

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01:01:00.000 Reveal his erection? 0.92

01:01:01.000 Bring about an insurrection? 0.99

01:01:03.000 Who will know until tomorrow?

01:01:06.000 Join us then, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

01:01:09.000 Until then, stay free.

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - April 19, 2023

FOX News To Pay WHAT?! The End Of Democracy?! - #111 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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