Stay Free - Russel Brand - From Oil Tankers to Impeachment: How Power Is Being Asserted - SF662

00:05:28.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:05:29.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brad amidst the tumult, the tsunamis and the madness.

00:05:36.000 Let us provide for you safe harbour, sanctuary, a moment where you think it's gonna be okay.

00:05:42.000 Even if you're in the UK, it's gonna be okay.

00:05:45.000 Do you know there's that digital ID parade coming up this Saturday?

00:05:49.000 My friend, well, I say friend, man who never stops criticizing me publicly, David Icke seems to be significant in it.

00:05:56.000 I think I reposted it somewhere.

00:05:58.000 Can someone find it?

00:05:59.000 And like, well, let's tell people to go to that because I think you really should if you're in the UK.

00:06:02.000 If you're not in the UK, then, well, you've probably made a good choice.

00:06:08.000 You're probably going to be better off.

00:06:10.000 Have you been watching our unpacked lately?

00:06:11.000 We've made some excellent content where we really look in intricate detail as best as we can about our historical precedent for stories in the news.

00:06:20.000 And we'll be bringing you some more insights into them soon.

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00:06:30.000 We want to hear what you've got to say about our main stories.

00:06:34.000 Gosh.

00:06:36.000 Right, here's like, let me give you, let me give you a list of some of the things we're going to be talking about in the next few minutes.

00:06:40.000 Charlie Kirk's truth bomb on American Christianity.

00:06:43.000 Yeah, I liked that.

00:06:44.000 That's where he talked about everyone, the founding fathers, was a Christian and that the American Constitution won't work outside of a Christian culture.

00:06:50.000 A kind of a denial of secularism in a way.

00:06:53.000 Occultism at Tucker Carlson's Alps party.

00:06:56.000 I was at that.

00:06:57.000 I didn't see no occultism.

00:06:58.000 I did meet that, like a really nice UFC guy, Bryce something or other.

00:07:03.000 He beamed such radiance, this guy, I couldn't see how he would beat anybody to death until I started speaking to him.

00:07:09.000 Then it touched his shoulder.

00:07:11.000 Then it was clear that he could do it anytime he wanted to.

00:07:13.000 And we're going to talk about Bob Lazar's revelation that there are documentations about Christ and genetically engineered Christ in like sort of high-level clandestine UFO-related deep state entities.

00:07:25.000 It's going to be a brilliant conversation.

00:07:26.000 And missing kids worldwide.

00:07:28.000 We're going to start talking about Christmas because that's the kind of thing we're into over here.

00:07:32.000 And as you know, I'm joined today by beloved Dave from the podcast Shoot Me Straight, which he does with Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher, who was not pardoned, who was acquitted on this.

00:07:43.000 People say he's pardoned, but he's a quid.

00:07:45.000 People can find Shoot Me Straight wherever you listen to podcasts.

00:07:48.000 Jake's here as always.

00:07:50.000 How's it going, Jake?

00:07:51.000 It's going good.

00:07:52.000 Nice bit of merch.

00:07:53.000 Why am I supporting bus pro shops when I could be wearing our own?

00:07:58.000 Somebody in the comments said, I don't recognize Russell without leopard print.

00:08:03.000 Yeah, I know, I know. 0.96

00:08:04.000 I've got a target drawing around my nipple. 0.99

00:08:06.000 Does that help me, BID'd? 0.99

00:08:08.000 That's my biometric data right there around that titty boob.

00:08:12.000 All the way from the United Kingdom.

00:08:13.000 Joe McCann, who's our reporter.

00:08:17.000 What's going on there, Joe?

00:08:18.000 Is it all right?

00:08:19.000 Things seem all right, mate.

00:08:21.000 Things seem all right.

00:08:22.000 I mean, I'm hearing a lot about this digital ID thing.

00:08:24.000 I hadn't heard about this protest, though, so I'm going to have to go and check that out.

00:08:27.000 The 13th, can you find it on Exosan?

00:08:29.000 Can we just sort of sling it up on this?

00:08:31.000 Let's find it and we'll see if we can.

00:08:33.000 Do you think you can get it from X to on a to on the stream?

00:08:37.000 Because I want to look at it for a moment.

00:08:39.000 I reposted it earlier.

00:08:40.000 I reposted David Icke doing it.

00:08:43.000 And Massey, you're in the UK also.

00:08:46.000 Yeah, mate, I'm in the UK until the begin of it's bleak.

00:08:51.000 It's bleak there.

00:08:52.000 Now, let me get into the first thing I want to talk about is this tanker's gotten seized.

00:08:58.000 Let's have a look.

00:08:59.000 Today, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Homeland Security Investigations and the US Coast Guard, with support from the Department of War, executed a seizure warrant for a crude oil tanker used to transport sanctioned oil from Venezuela to Iran.

00:09:13.000 For multiple years, the oil tanker has been sanctioned.

00:09:15.000 Some people, Jeremy Corbyn in the UK, called it out and out piracy.

00:09:19.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

00:09:21.000 In the old days, before I had these flirtations with what are sort of known as right-wing politics or MAGA or whatever, I would have seen that as old-school shock doctrine, US imperialism seeking to control resources in the south of the American continent.

00:09:40.000 What do you lot think?

00:09:41.000 Let me know what you think.

00:09:42.000 Let's have a look at there's no sound on this, so presumably my mic here is that happening.

00:09:50.000 Oh, wow, yeah, it's pretty intense.

00:09:51.000 They're just lowered down.

00:09:53.000 Who's these badasses that are getting lowered down? 0.99

00:09:56.000 Look at that.

00:09:56.000 They're doing that in real life.

00:09:58.000 Check it out.

00:10:00.000 Getting lowered down on ropes, seizing an oil tank.

00:10:02.000 thank you very much it's been uh this is trump announcing it so you can get a handle on well Well, thank you very much.

00:10:08.000 It's been an interesting day from the standpoint of news.

00:10:14.000 As you probably know, we've just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela.

00:10:21.000 Large tanker, very large.

00:10:24.000 Largest one ever seized, actually.

00:10:27.000 And other things are happening.

00:10:30.000 Jake, what are people saying in the comments?

00:10:31.000 Do people like see this as a kind of like imperialist colonial grab?

00:10:36.000 Or do people think, oh, this is what you have to do when you're in a conflict with Venezuela?

00:10:39.000 Venezuela is the nexus of power.

00:10:42.000 And this is what I heard.

00:10:43.000 Let me know in the comments and chat if you agree with this. 0.94

00:10:45.000 What I heard was now Ukraine and Russia's gone so crazy with revelations around corruption and embezzlement within Ukraine under Zelensky that a kind of tacit geopolitical deal has been done between Trump and Putin along the lines of, look, we need that shit in Venezuela, that oil and stuff, and Venezuela having deals with China and deals with Iran and deals with ULOT. 0.86

00:11:10.000 That can't go on no more. 0.95

00:11:11.000 You stay out of this Venezuela situation and we'll back off out of Ukraine. 1.00

00:11:15.000 Is it that?

00:11:16.000 Is that how geopolitics works?

00:11:18.000 Let me know in the comments and chat, please.

00:11:21.000 And we'll update you in a second.

00:11:24.000 In American domestic politics, the hostility towards RFK has heightened and increased with Representative Haley Stevens announcing that she's planning to impeach him or began the process for his impeachment, which of course has to be a sort of Congress-wide activity.

00:11:43.000 Let's have a look at this because when I saw her making that announcement, I couldn't tell who she was funded by. 0.84

00:11:49.000 And that's what I'd like to know primarily and foremost.

00:11:52.000 Is she funded?

00:11:53.000 Does she accept donations from the pharmaceutical industry or the food industry? 0.70

00:11:57.000 And with that latter suggestion, I invite you not to make any sarcastic comments.

00:12:00.000 RFK Jr. has got to go.

00:12:03.000 Today I introduced articles of impeachment to remove him from office.

00:12:07.000 RFK Jr. has turned his back on science, on public health, and on the American people.

00:12:12.000 Under his watch, families are less safe.

00:12:15.000 Healthcare costs are skyrocketing.

00:12:17.000 And life-saving research, including right here in Michigan, is being gutted.

00:12:22.000 RFK Jr. is the biggest self-created threat to our health and safety.

00:12:28.000 I cannot and I will not stand by while one man dismantles decades of medical progress.

00:12:35.000 Enough is enough.

00:12:37.000 And that is why I'm pushing to impeach RFK Jr. to hold him accountable.

00:12:42.000 She looks like she has a gun to her head saying that stuff. 1.00

00:12:45.000 She's like, she's just reading a teleprompter.

00:12:47.000 I don't know what's driving a representative Haley Stevens. 1.00

00:12:50.000 Let's have a look.

00:12:55.000 I yield the gentlelady 30 additional seconds. 0.95

00:12:57.000 The gentlewoman is recognized for an additional 30 seconds.

00:13:02.000 Sharing in the profession with those who have not come before you.

00:13:06.000 Similar times of trying medical need.

00:13:08.000 Wars and flus pass. 0.81

00:13:10.000 You will see darkness.

00:13:11.000 You will be pushed.

00:13:13.000 And our society needs you to stand together at this time.

00:13:17.000 Our country loves you to our doctors and our nurses.

00:13:20.000 I wear these lately.

00:13:21.000 The gentlelady's time has expired. 0.54

00:13:23.000 The gentleman from Maryland is recorded.

00:13:27.000 Gloves are actually a symbol of something. 0.55

00:13:29.000 And I think that thing is severe mental illness.

00:13:33.000 And she said she was wearing those latex gloves to remind us of doctors and nurses and their extraordinary challenges.

00:13:40.000 But if you've been looking at what's going on in the UK right now, they've invented something called Superflu that they're trying to sell you as if it's like a sort of a James Gunn reboot of a failing DC franchise.

00:13:50.000 Super flu now, you've got to be worried about.

00:13:53.000 Like this time last year, COVID, they're saying the same stuff.

00:13:56.000 In fact, maybe we have some trailers or content from our unpack to throw to to show you some of that stuff, do we?

00:14:07.000 All right, let me let me she's pretty, she's out there. 0.99

00:14:11.000 Yeah, it would be good to see some of that stuff, I think.

00:14:13.000 Some of the, have we got any trailers for the unpacked in this deck?

00:14:18.000 No?

00:14:21.000 No, in that deck, no, we haven't preferred those.

00:14:22.000 We should always have.

00:14:23.000 We should always have.

00:14:24.000 That's a standardized thing.

00:14:25.000 If you don't mind, always have that there because then I can sort of show stuff like that.

00:14:29.000 Because particularly this week, there's been so much going on in the UK around that.

00:14:32.000 And we've made so much content around it.

00:14:34.000 And I've posted so much stuff around it on X.

00:14:37.000 I would love to, yeah, like, let me see, have a look at my sort of my feed on X. Is there any way that we can?

00:14:44.000 We can't pull it up on the stream right now.

00:14:47.000 We can't.

00:14:48.000 Nope.

00:14:48.000 We can't get it to X.

00:14:49.000 Yeah, there's, yeah, if you look at my stream on X, there's like I've like posted a bunch of it.

00:14:55.000 Then there's all this Candice Owens stuff we've been posting, of course.

00:14:59.000 And then lots of like, yeah, this stuff by Robert Minotti.

00:15:02.000 Yeah, I guess we should probably talk through this show 24 hours ahead to get a sort of a better handle on the stuff we're doing, I think, because yeah, look if I feel a bit bewildered by it.

00:15:18.000 Okay.

00:15:18.000 Yeah.

00:15:19.000 Like, see, like this stuff about that, the increasing cancers, like the increasing cancers.

00:15:26.000 I mean, there's quite a lot of stuff.

00:15:28.000 And our stuff with John Campbell, it'd be lovely to you.

00:15:31.000 Yeah, I think we should have assets for our from Unpacked as a standard in this show, if you don't mind.

00:15:38.000 Are you talking about all the COVID vaccine?

00:15:41.000 In the UK now, they're trying to get everyone boosted and take like a bunch of like flu shots.

00:15:47.000 And they're trying to sell this flu season as a kind of retread of COVID.

00:15:54.000 But it's really hard because the language is the same as COVID.

00:15:59.000 They're getting people to wear masks in hospitals, having already had to previously acknowledge and admit that masks don't work.

00:16:08.000 You know, so it's sort of, it's amazing because one of the things I think we're experiencing as social media becomes sort of like fully immersive is that time is collapsing.

00:16:20.000 Like things are happening so quickly that it's not like, you know, say the Watergate scandal, it happens, then there's an investigative process and slowly it's revealed that there was corruption and burglary of documentation.

00:16:31.000 Or, you know, or pick a conspiracy theory, the assassination of JFK.

00:16:36.000 Now, these things are happening so quick.

00:16:38.000 Look at the timeline with, say, the tragic and very sad murder, obviously, of Charlie Kirk.

00:16:47.000 Within days, people are sort of processing it and, you know, coming to the conclusion that whatever the truth is, there's more to it than we were initially told.

00:17:00.000 Now, it doesn't, you know, like, you know, obviously having just spoken to Candace Owens, I'm sort of nervous about going to a turning point event because, and also, like, whenever you talk to anyone who's in the sort of the white heat of a moment, the content gets viewed more, people talk to you more.

00:17:20.000 But I think that what's positive about this type of social media that we all work in, this kind of independent media, is the ability to have these conversations, the ability to process it.

00:17:31.000 So, you know, like, even though it is incendiary to hear some of the things that Candace Owens is saying and how far it goes, in particular, occultist sects within Judaism that she says are orchestrating world events, that's like a difficult thing to hear and a difficult thing to corroborate and a difficult thing to understand.

00:17:54.000 And I suppose even more so when it gets closer at home, when it's like, oh, I feel that Charlie Kirk's death is somehow connected to this.

00:18:02.000 But what I don't like is when it becomes, let's not have the conversation, let's shut her down, let's shut this down.

00:18:08.000 I think that's sort of equally dangerous.

00:18:10.000 And I'm thinking I've got a real opportunity at this turning point event to be a participant in conciliation, in reconciliation and true Christian principles of forgiveness, unity, togetherness and harmony that extend obviously beyond various fractions on the right and and even beyond America and American politics and into a global church where ultimately we've got to start with what do we have in common?

00:18:40.000 What do we agree on?

00:18:40.000 Can we agree that we should all eat healthy?

00:18:43.000 Can we agree on that?

00:18:44.000 Can we agree that we all love our kids?

00:18:46.000 Can we agree on that?

00:18:47.000 Can we agree on don't like you know so like you know like a spirit of reconciliation and unity is what I'm actually interested in.

00:18:57.000 So how that relates to this super flu stuff is, for all of the talk of conspiracy, for all of the talk of misinformation and malinformation, in a 12-month period now, or excuse me, in this winter season, you're able, if you look at UK media, to see them attempting...

00:19:16.000 Look at these questions.

00:19:17.000 Where did flu go during the period of COVID?

00:19:20.000 Why did no one talk about flu?

00:19:21.000 Is it possible that people that had flu, died of flu, were recorded as COVID deaths?

00:19:26.000 Is that even likely?

00:19:27.000 Where's COVID gone now when it comes to the recording of these flu deaths?

00:19:31.000 If we established in the post-COVID period that masks were largely ineffective, what's the point in wearing a mask if we establish that social distancing is largely ineffective?

00:19:41.000 Now I know that flu and COVID are ostensibly and very actually different conditions, but what we're seeing are patterns and trends in the way that the media behaves when attempting to utilize crisis.

00:19:52.000 And in this social media environment, that's not going to be possible in the same way.

00:19:57.000 There's too much conversation, there's too much inquiry, there's a total lack of trust.

00:20:02.000 The negative side of that is, of course, this state of bewilderment.

00:20:05.000 I think if most people are honest, they're in, whether it's you know.

00:20:08.000 Pick a subject, Venezuela.

00:20:10.000 Is it good or is it bad?

00:20:11.000 What do you think about the Venezuelan government?

00:20:14.000 What do you think about Maduro?

00:20:15.000 Is he a rogue bad actor on the global stage?

00:20:18.000 Or is the colonialist, imperialist United States Of America the great Satan, as any Ayatyla will tell you, imposing its will upon a sovereign nation? 0.73

00:20:28.000 All of those kind of discourses took place, but now they're taking place immediately and rapidly, and not just with academic participants.

00:20:36.000 Here comes everyone was the title of a famous book that in a sense, took the temperature of where we're going and where we're heading quickly.

00:20:44.000 Now you know, this is a long-winded way of saying that if we don't find new systems of governance, we are either going to yield to calls for mass centralized control or there's going to be a good deal of conflict and mayhem and chaos.

00:21:01.000 What why?

00:21:02.000 I think that it has to be I?

00:21:03.000 Why it has to be politically implemented, i.e.

00:21:07.000 Politics is going to have to reflect what's happening in social media, because it's a new technology, a new means of communication, and if you try to stifle it and control it.

00:21:18.000 It's going to have unpredictable outcomes, whereas if you accept it you might be able to somewhat shape the outcomes.

00:21:27.000 I.e, 20 years ago, if the, if the NEW YORK Times said something, that was it.

00:21:32.000 It was true. 0.75

00:21:32.000 Now NEW YORK Times says something most people don't believe it. 0.75

00:21:36.000 There's a thousand counter narratives, some of them verifiable and true, and that means you can't have constitution.

00:21:41.000 You can't have constituencies in the same way that you once did.

00:21:45.000 It's too mobile like.

00:21:47.000 There's probably no one watching this who still believes BBC CNN Msnbc, but the people that are watching BBC CNN, Msnbc think that this whole world is filled with the type of madness.

00:22:01.000 The problem is that the mainstream media demographic is shrinking and this one is growing.

00:22:08.000 One of the problems is that all of the people in this space are now turning on one another in a kind of vociferous and vitriolic way, i.e.

00:22:16.000 You know, a few years ago, Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, it was all Tucker Carlson, it was all much for Muchness, sort of libertarian right-wing people with a variety, you know, Ben Shapiro, they were all one camp.

00:22:29.000 Now it's not one camp anymore and it's not stabilized.

00:22:32.000 In the same way, the same thing's happening measurably with the migration of the working class in American politics from the Democratic left to the Maga right.

00:22:43.000 They used to be marshalled and controlled by the Union Movement.

00:22:46.000 We learned that in a high sort of a high profile and somewhat esoteric environment where they where they explained this advocacy group that I was participating in did that their function was to ensure that the solidarity that once provided by Trade Union Movement when, like all American steel workers or American car workers would vote the same way, those industries are gone.

00:23:06.000 Now those voters don't vote Democrat anymore.

00:23:08.000 They once did.

00:23:09.000 They now vote Republican.

00:23:11.000 How are they going to be directed and controlled even influenced, if you don't like words like directed and controlled?

00:23:16.000 We're in a such a mobile time of continual, rapid change that if new institutions and new movements don't appear that essentially take what's come out of social media and implement it politically, we're going to live in total chaos for a while, and I think the way it's going is crisis, continual crisis, are being leveraged to legitimize control.

00:23:41.000 You can't say that in the media.

00:23:43.000 You can't say that it's Faqi to shut that person down.

00:23:45.000 It's okay to impose these mandates and what but one of the problems is is we're not able to focus and go look, hold on.

00:23:53.000 Remember what they said during Covid, they lied, they lied continually.

00:23:56.000 So remember.

00:23:57.000 There's the same basic interests and institutions are still in charge now, and the reason I like the flu example is because it's so obviously analogous.

00:24:05.000 You don't have to apply the same mindset to something abstract or distinct.

00:24:09.000 It's the same thing.

00:24:11.000 It's a virus at winter that will likely kill people that are old or have comorbidities, and that's just sort of life.

00:24:19.000 Anyway man, that's a long-winded way of saying you should try blackout coffee.

00:24:25.000 What I drink.

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00:24:42.000 Um, did you have a?

00:24:43.000 What was that?

00:24:43.000 Is that?

00:24:43.000 I heard a breath.

00:24:44.000 Was that a comment's breath?

00:24:45.000 Well, I was saying you, you have a.

00:24:47.000 Uh, we've been through this pandemic before.

00:24:50.000 You have a lot of data.

00:24:51.000 You have a lot of videos.

00:24:52.000 You have a lot of people that have posted stuff, so even what you reposted on X.

00:24:56.000 No one can force you to wear a mask, like there's been people that are now saying that.

00:25:00.000 So if you see it starting to happen again, don't do it.

00:25:03.000 Yeah yeah, that's the one.

00:25:05.000 I liked that because the guy that I reposted I can't remember someone, you know just one of my mates sent it to me and this dude excuse me, who posted it is called Robin Minatti.

00:25:21.000 Yeah, he's like.

00:25:23.000 His grandfather was the head of the bar association, the legal association in the UK.

00:25:29.000 He says, a reminder that no human being can ever tell another one to wear a face mask, take a test or have an injection without violating their inalienable human rights.

00:25:36.000 They can only ask and they have to accept a negative answer without disadvantage or prejudice.

00:25:41.000 So what we're living in is a sort of an attempt to mask enshrined rights behind authoritarianism.

00:25:47.000 Authoritarianism these days ain't coming at you down the barrel of a gun.

00:25:51.000 It's coming at you down the barrel of a syringe.

00:25:54.000 They're telling you you have to do this stuff in order to help others.

00:25:58.000 It's a better tactic, but it has the same goal, mass authoritarianism.

00:26:03.000 Most of the stuff I bought is not really, you know, sort of appropriate for this for the direction that the conversation is having, but I'm sure it will become relevant at some point.

00:26:12.000 Where do you think?

00:26:13.000 where are we we've got like from jake's bought a little drummer boy I mean, I can't imagine what the hell you're thinking.

00:26:20.000 Joe's bought something called Lilith.

00:26:22.000 Do you mean like Adam's purported first partner, Lilith, before Eve?

00:26:27.000 Is that what we're talking about?

00:26:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:29.000 So they were doing a big parade in France with a like big, is it effigy?

00:26:33.000 Is that the right word?

00:26:34.000 Effigy?

00:26:35.000 Like a big image, dummy thing of a, yeah.

00:26:38.000 So what's interesting.

00:26:39.000 What would you think it is?

00:26:40.000 Occultist darkness?

00:26:42.000 Well, it seems to be, yeah.

00:26:43.000 I mean, I mean, looking up, like, I don't know much about this.

00:26:46.000 I'll put it in Jack GPT and it says the original origin was like a Jewish folklore.

00:26:52.000 Adam's first wife in later medieval folklore, not the Bible, created from the same earth as Adam.

00:26:59.000 Lilith left after refusing to be subservient.

00:27:03.000 And then God's created Eve, who couldn't fly. 1.00

00:27:05.000 Because I think Lilith just flew off. 1.00

00:27:07.000 Fuck this. 1.00

00:27:07.000 I'm not doing it. 1.00

00:27:08.000 I want hope there. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Fuck me. 1.00

00:27:11.000 I'm lying around in this garden. 1.00

00:27:12.000 She ain't even staying about for the apples. 0.99

00:27:14.000 She's out straight from the get-go.

00:27:17.000 That's an interesting myth.

00:27:19.000 And I suppose, look, I don't know, man, except as to say that ultimate power is not human power.

00:27:27.000 That I believe for sure.

00:27:28.000 So I believe there are occultist elements that are ultimately in control of human institutions.

00:27:36.000 And what's been challenging for me as getting familiarized with and immersed in scripture is the Old Testament is all about disobedience and false idolatry, worshiping false gods.

00:27:50.000 And the New Testament is a kind of a new covenant on the basis that evil's in control of the world.

00:27:58.000 Just says it again and again and again in there.

00:28:00.000 Evil's in control of the world.

00:28:02.000 So coming at it from a, like, as I've already sort of explained in this succession of digressions today, like, I come at this, I was always anti-establishment, anti-authority.

00:28:15.000 I read things like Naomi Klein's shock doctrine, which talked about how American deep state interest infiltrated Latin and Central American countries, destabilized them, imposed governments that were favorable to U.S. economic interests.

00:28:30.000 We know that happened in Cuba.

00:28:32.000 We know that and led to Fidel Castro.

00:28:34.000 We know that it's so, you know, it's happened at Nicaragua across that region.

00:28:40.000 So then that was for me, that was a materialistic and economic understanding of it.

00:28:45.000 Oh, I understand what it is.

00:28:46.000 America's a superpower and they go around the world, you know, sort of much in the way that the British did with like flags and guns.

00:28:54.000 America does it with logos and guns.

00:28:56.000 I get it.

00:28:57.000 The deepening understanding I get from Christianity is what is behind that power?

00:29:03.000 Why are they doing that?

00:29:05.000 Does it just end with, like, is the, like, I guess we're saying, is the finishing line for humanity, there, I've got the most money and power, I win.

00:29:14.000 Or is there something beyond that?

00:29:17.000 And increasingly, I feel that there is.

00:29:19.000 So someone like Candice Emmanuel is interesting because she's going there. 0.98

00:29:22.000 She's like, she's, and more and more people are doing that.

00:29:25.000 More and more people are going, what is the power that's behind this power?

00:29:29.000 How does it work?

00:29:30.000 How do we thwart it?

00:29:30.000 How do we attack it?

00:29:31.000 And I think, you know, with my million monkeys typewriter theory, like we're living in that reality now, people are creating the complete works of Shakespeare all the time.

00:29:40.000 You can find it all over the internet.

00:29:41.000 Like, that's it.

00:29:42.000 So you can aggregate on your own X feed a basic outline of the truth.

00:29:46.000 Of course, you're going to get madness in there, racism, in there, anti-Semitism in there. 0.98

00:29:50.000 Pornography in there is full of filth. 1.00

00:29:52.000 It's full of madness and filth.

00:29:54.000 But you can trace the outline of truth.

00:29:55.000 And something that I would never have thought about before, Jewish folklore and an earlier iteration of the original human family is something I will consider now.

00:30:04.000 Joe's bought this bit of content.

00:30:06.000 Let's have a look at this.

00:30:07.000 What is it?

00:30:08.000 Is it from the parade, mate?

00:30:10.000 Yeah, it's just a little clip off X of the parade.

00:30:15.000 Here is the real truth about Lilith.

00:30:17.000 Lilith is not a fallen angel.

00:30:20.000 She's not Adam's first wife.

00:30:22.000 She never came from Eden.

00:30:24.000 None of that is in the Bible.

00:30:26.000 The original Lilith is a desert-dwelling night demon, a spirit tied to danger, chaos, and spiritual perversion.

00:30:34.000 Her earliest appearance goes back 4,000 years to Babylon, where she was feared as a female night spirit who preyed on the vulnerable, especially pregnant women and newborns.

00:30:45.000 The Bible mentions her only once in Isaiah 34, describing her as a creature living in a wasteland after God's judgment. 0.55

00:30:53.000 A wilderness demon, a symbol of destruction.

00:30:57.000 The Dead Sea Scrolls list Lilith among violent night spirits and demons that attack people when they are weak and unprotected.

00:31:05.000 The Talmud describes her as a winged predator, nocturnal, seductive, and dangerous to anyone alone at night. 1.00

00:31:12.000 Across every ancient source, her traits remain the same.

00:31:16.000 She is nocturnal.

00:31:17.000 She is desert-associated.

00:31:20.000 She is predatory.

00:31:21.000 She harms the vulnerable. 1.00

00:31:23.000 She embodies sexual distortion and corrupted femininity. 1.00

00:31:27.000 Lilith isn't an angel. 0.97

00:31:29.000 And where can I get her phone number?

00:31:31.000 Isn't an angel.

00:31:33.000 She isn't from Eden.

00:31:34.000 She is a night demon of the wilderness.

00:31:37.000 A symbol of the chaos that rises when femininity is twisted away from God's design. 0.69

00:31:45.000 Follow for more.

00:31:46.000 Like, subscribe, and share to help.

00:31:49.000 Yeah, I see.

00:31:50.000 Okay.

00:31:51.000 so it doesn't mention her by name in here that i can that i can see at a glance but yeah that doesn't seem like a good yeah it doesn't seem like a good spirit Okay, man, Jesus Christ.

00:32:07.000 So a parade or something?

00:32:09.000 Like the to celebrate her?

00:32:11.000 Is that what that was?

00:32:13.000 That's what it said on the little X feed, but you never really know the context here.

00:32:17.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:32:18.000 Like, it said French parade in France.

00:32:22.000 Didn't even say exactly where in France.

00:32:24.000 Parade in FCC.

00:32:25.000 Paris, that is, Joe.

00:32:28.000 Paris?

00:32:29.000 Yeah, it is.

00:32:30.000 And also that puppetry, I recognize them.

00:32:33.000 They're actually amazing, those puppeteers.

00:32:36.000 They did things like without elephants sort of marching through London and stuff like that.

00:32:41.000 It's interesting, innit?

00:32:42.000 What some people say is, oh no, it's only this, it's only that, and it's no big deal, and it doesn't matter.

00:32:47.000 And yeah, of course, you could rationalize and unravel any one of these things, but if you look at what the culture's doing, even with pretty innocuous artifacts, it is a culture that deadens you. 0.70

00:33:01.000 See that Terence McKenna, he said, Terence McKenna, the biologist, and he was one of them people that was doing a bunch of acid and a lot of mushrooms and a lot of psilocybin like 20, 30 years ago and reporting on it extensively.

00:33:13.000 He said, the culture is not your friend.

00:33:16.000 How is that any different from the function of the world is to distract you, to ensnare you, to control you?

00:33:23.000 That is its purpose and its function.

00:33:24.000 And that's why, Jake, when we were watching that show, Jay Kelly or whatever on Netflix, the reason I can't get enthralled again by creative endeavor is because I've been enthralled by it.

00:33:38.000 I've been enthralled.

00:33:39.000 I've been informed by it.

00:33:40.000 I spent so long thinking, I'll make that movie, then I'll make that, and then that will happen, and then I'll marry this person, then this will happen.

00:33:48.000 That anything that sort of feels like that to me, I'm not, you know, we're all different timelines, we're all on different paths, but anything like it to me feels like Babylon, Babylon, like anything that's about, and then I'll make this movie.

00:34:00.000 I don't know how I can, at this point, and I'm trying to keep this grounded, be involved in anything that's not explicitly.

00:34:08.000 Like when we went to Rome, Dave and Joe, and when I see them Caravaggios of St. Matthew, and we're 10 minutes away from the Vatican, I think, well, look, what these Caravaggios depict in the anointing or appointing of St. Matthew, the writing of St. Matthew, and then the ultimate martyrdom of St. Matthew is if you dedicate yourself to Christ,

00:34:36.000 to the highest principle, to God-made flesh, then you're probably going to die for it.

00:34:42.000 Otherwise, what you're probably going to do is some neutered version of it where you sort of do it a little bit, but you pay your dividends and your tributes.

00:34:52.000 What they call it when you used to be in the clubs, subs.

00:34:55.000 When you pay your subs to the culture.

00:34:58.000 Like, there's your subs.

00:34:59.000 Like, you know what I mean?

00:35:00.000 I'll like, you know, I'll do a like vodka commercial or I'll do whatever.

00:35:06.000 Because I think that what I'm reading in this book, the Bible, is extreme.

00:35:11.000 It's very, very extreme.

00:35:13.000 It's an extreme battle. 0.99

00:35:14.000 And to me, it does seem more like there's a parasite succubuses and shit like that. 0.99

00:35:22.000 That's what it seems like to me. 0.97

00:35:24.000 But those things are, they're not easy to corroborate.

00:35:29.000 They're not easy to detect.

00:35:31.000 They're not easy.

00:35:32.000 But when you, say, if you zoom back a little bit and go, what is the culture doing?

00:35:36.000 Is the culture getting you, by and large, sweeping generalizations?

00:35:40.000 Is the culture getting you eating bad food?

00:35:42.000 Yes.

00:35:42.000 Is it getting you overly invested and interested in sex?

00:35:46.000 Yes.

00:35:47.000 Is it asserting control in a variety of ways?

00:35:50.000 Is it materialistic telling you that there is no God?

00:35:53.000 Yes.

00:35:54.000 All of those things you can sort of detect.

00:35:56.000 But then when you start to pull at an individual strand like Candice is doing, you may be at risk, and this is, I suppose, the big question, of not correctly assessing the conduct of a grieving widow.

00:36:10.000 Maybe.

00:36:11.000 You know, like, you know, maybe like, who knows what it'd be like if your partner was shot in public and the many ways you might try and handle that.

00:36:18.000 Or turning point cooperating with a criminal investigation. 0.98

00:36:23.000 What's that going to fucking look like? 0.95

00:36:24.000 And what things you can say and what things you can't say. 0.98

00:36:26.000 I don't know.

00:36:28.000 So for me at the moment, I'm just like trying to be involved in these conversations, listen to this stuff, and try to root my understanding in this very beautiful edition of the New International Version of the Holy Bible.

00:36:43.000 Look at that, it's all in there.

00:36:45.000 Nice and thin, easy to read.

00:36:47.000 Love it.

00:36:47.000 Can't go wrong with that.

00:36:48.000 Is there a place for redeemable creativity?

00:36:52.000 Like, you've changed.

00:36:54.000 What if the motive becomes to make beauty to draw people to Jesus?

00:36:59.000 Like, we talked about bad art.

00:37:00.000 There's a lot of bad art disguised as Christian. 1.00

00:37:04.000 But can there be a redeemable aspect of what you do?

00:37:06.000 Are you saying no creative?

00:37:08.000 That's not.

00:37:10.000 No, I'm not saying that because that's sort of like that's the sort of Puritanism that leads to witch hunts and Stalinism, isn't it?

00:37:18.000 It leads to Puritanism.

00:37:20.000 Like that's what, like communism was puritanical.

00:37:23.000 It's like we're absolutely not having that now.

00:37:26.000 You know, talk to Candace Owens about how she says that revolution began or David Icon.

00:37:30.000 Oh man.

00:37:31.000 But like, so look, but what I think with modern, the problem, not the problem I had, I thought that that movie on Netflix J. Kelly was amazing and brilliant.

00:37:38.000 I really, really loved it.

00:37:39.000 But what I'm sort of confused by is how a film that's an essay on the sort of futility of Hollywood is delivered to you as a Hollywood package that will still be assessed in the same way.

00:37:52.000 How did it do?

00:37:53.000 What were the product placements in it?

00:37:55.000 I've sort of seen too much of that world.

00:37:58.000 There's people in there that I've done films with, there's people in there that I've met, even some of the people that are sort of, you know, behind the scenes, like say with the documentary made about it.

00:38:08.000 And what like, like what I reckon is, like, it's a bit like The Matrix, I suppose.

00:38:13.000 Like, how did that film get made?

00:38:15.000 Then we all just watch it and then go, huh, yeah, I suppose it is a bit like we've had our consciousness captured and controlled and our energy's been siphoned off and stolen and there's another reality, you know, and we all just carry on.

00:38:28.000 I think about like, you know, C.S. Lewis or Tolkien, when they were writing in these very creative formats, if writing, you know, if they had the technology that we have now, do you think they might have produced movies?

00:38:43.000 Or do you think it would only be writing?

00:38:46.000 That's the part I'm trying to wrestle with you.

00:38:48.000 Of like, man, you're so creative.

00:38:49.000 You've been in that world.

00:38:51.000 How do you redeem it?

00:38:52.000 See, with currency, where I do agree with Max Kaiser on Bitcoin is that is definitely a reliable form of currency.

00:39:01.000 Like Bitcoin is a good form of currency.

00:39:04.000 If you were starting now, and I guess we are, that's one of the sort of primary spiritual beliefs.

00:39:10.000 You know, begin now in the present.

00:39:12.000 That's where you'll find Christ.

00:39:13.000 If you were beginning now, would you say, let's have a royal family, let's have these congresses where you sort of aggregate power and you only have 400 people that are in charge of 300 million people populations.

00:39:26.000 You wouldn't, would you?

00:39:27.000 If you were starting now, you'd go, listen, in order to protect the interests of ordinary folks, you're going to have to have some principles like sovereignty of the individual, sovereignty of the family, respect for people's different lifestyles. 0.79

00:39:39.000 Don't let power centralize too much because it'll always fuck people over.

00:39:42.000 You'd have those principles from the get-go.

00:39:44.000 Now, like, so with something like, we're in the media that matters most.

00:39:48.000 We're in it.

00:39:49.000 It's direct.

00:39:50.000 And I suppose that's why I get frustrated by small things easily and like my and the management of my own ability and deficits of what I need to work with, what I need to work with.

00:40:04.000 Because I'm good at direct.

00:40:06.000 I'm good at direct, sort of straight to a person, whether that's talking one-on-one with a drug addict about if you want to stop taking drugs, eventually you're going to have to go through the pain of not taking drugs.

00:40:15.000 You're going to have to get to the moment where you need to, where you want, I don't know what drug this is.

00:40:19.000 This is actually chocolate is what I'm like, you're going to have to get to the moment where you want it really bad and then not do it.

00:40:25.000 I like that.

00:40:26.000 The more oddly, the more diffuse things get, the less I like it.

00:40:30.000 And I think like if what your message is, is we are involved in a holy war. 0.97

00:40:35.000 The governments and most powerful interests and institutions in the world have been captured by evil, not just some fuck off country you barely know the name of. 0.93

00:40:43.000 The main countries have been captured by evil. 0.94

00:40:47.000 Like we, and the only solution is for individuals to awaken and become armed.

00:40:53.000 I mean spiritually armed, but gosh, who knows?

00:40:55.000 I mean spiritually armed the armaments of God, the full armor of God.

00:41:00.000 Like I can't at this point get myself in.

00:41:04.000 And the best way to do that is to write a poem.

00:41:07.000 But maybe this is, you know, we're all at our level, aren't we?

00:41:09.000 We're all at our level because I'm not. 0.98

00:41:11.000 I've always thought that with when people say, like, why don't Elon Musk give off his money to, why don't you give half your fucking money? 0.95

00:41:19.000 You give half your fucking money instead of trying to puppet Elon Musk, you know, from 200 miles away behind like loads of black ops security. 0.98

00:41:28.000 Give away. 1.00

00:41:29.000 If you think everyone should give away half their money, you give away half your money.

00:41:34.000 But where I am with, so what I mean to say is where I am now is I'm in this period of obvious volatility because I've gone from living one life to an entirely another life really quickly.

00:41:46.000 Like I eat meat now.

00:41:48.000 I've surrendered to Christ.

00:41:50.000 I live in a different country.

00:41:51.000 It's like it's a lot radical.

00:41:54.000 But like lots of things in it were already there. 0.99

00:41:57.000 Like I never, like from very, the reason I've not took a vaccine is because something in me knew already, don't fucking take a vaccine, them cancer liars. 0.99

00:42:06.000 Something in me knew that already. 0.91

00:42:09.000 And that thing, what's amazing to me is when I'm applying that mindset to Christ, it's not like, hold on a minute, this is obviously some method to get people to conform as a control mechanism, which is what I thought before I read it.

00:42:21.000 Before I read it, I would have told you all day long.

00:42:24.000 But that's because one set of churches seems to prioritize resources, power, and centralized authority.

00:42:30.000 And the other set of churches, morality and ethics in a kind of a judgmental way with a fixation on sex and sexuality and identity that's not been helpful. 0.99

00:42:40.000 And it feels to me like, and then when people get into the mystery of it, it's sometimes seems stupid. 0.72

00:42:46.000 That stuff, dancing around with flags, you know, like it's like, so how do we manage it?

00:42:51.000 Like, how do we like, go, this is actually a real thing.

00:42:54.000 Like, you know, if you're a Christian, you believe in the virgin birth, you believe angels and devils are real.

00:42:58.000 You're in a holy war.

00:43:00.000 There are entities and spirits all around us that you don't have the sensory information for.

00:43:03.000 Jesus Christ rose again from the dead.

00:43:05.000 God came to earth in the form of a baby.

00:43:07.000 I mean, there's a lot of stuff in there that's not, hi, I'm a Christian.

00:43:11.000 It's not that, is it?

00:43:11.000 It should be, I'm a Christian.

00:43:13.000 It's fucking go bad. 1.00

00:43:15.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:43:16.000 It's a crazy belief system.

00:43:18.000 And it should be reflected.

00:43:20.000 I don't know how to do it. 1.00

00:43:21.000 I'm talking to Christians all day long every fucking day. 0.99

00:43:24.000 You know, I don't know is my conclusion. 0.99

00:43:26.000 I don't know.

00:43:28.000 I don't know if it's an institution.

00:43:30.000 I don't know if it'll ever be redeemable.

00:43:32.000 No.

00:43:33.000 I mean, people are redeemable.

00:43:35.000 Right.

00:43:35.000 And so, I mean, if it's the devil's world that he owns, then the only thing he really can't own is the heart, right?

00:43:45.000 And so where that's reserved for the Lord only.

00:43:50.000 And so I think if it's even the best intentioned institutions, they're going to be corruptible somewhat.

00:44:00.000 I mean, you could be less corruptible.

00:44:02.000 I mean, that'd be a goal.

00:44:03.000 Because one of the things I like about anonymous 12-step groups is stuff like, we're all crazy here, but not at the same time.

00:44:13.000 We're all crazy, but not at the same time.

00:44:15.000 So you don't have leaders.

00:44:17.000 You don't go, oh, Russell's in charge or Joe's in charge of Davis.

00:44:20.000 You don't do that.

00:44:21.000 You just go, these are the principles.

00:44:23.000 These are the principles.

00:44:25.000 If you start messing with those principles, we're going to be able to call you on it and go, wait a minute.

00:44:29.000 And that's, again, why I'm getting so excited by the Lord.

00:44:32.000 Because it's like, yeah, that's right.

00:44:33.000 Keep saying that this is a Christian company.

00:44:36.000 Keep saying that this is a Christian country.

00:44:38.000 Because, you know, I'm absorbing this information.

00:44:41.000 I'm absorbing it.

00:44:42.000 And if you say this is a Christian country, then I'm going, there's some stuff in here about sharing.

00:44:49.000 There's some stuff in here about surrendering to absolute divinity.

00:44:53.000 There's some stuff in here about peace.

00:44:55.000 There's like, you know, there's lots of things.

00:44:56.000 Or if it goes the other way, you know, no, you don't know other gods, no other gods.

00:45:00.000 You don't make your sexuality into a god or other people's sexuality into a god.

00:45:04.000 It's a good system.

00:45:05.000 It's a good system.

00:45:06.000 If you're like, I don't believe in anything, it's all made up.

00:45:09.000 Then we're all equal on that playing field.

00:45:11.000 Who's persuasive?

00:45:13.000 Who's powerful wins?

00:45:15.000 So the little drummer boy clip as a transition because I want to hear Dave's thoughts because I know where he comes from in that world.

00:45:22.000 This is a good church.

00:45:24.000 Okay.

00:45:24.000 I'm going to say that.

00:45:26.000 They're in Texas.

00:45:27.000 This is their Christmas production from a couple years ago, and I want to hear y'all.

00:45:30.000 Let's do it.

00:46:39.000 Take it away, Dave. 0.97

00:46:41.000 What do you make of that, you mad Texan? 0.96

00:46:45.000 Dude, I don't know. 0.98

00:46:46.000 It's hard to watch.

00:46:47.000 It's a train run.

00:46:50.000 Not very Christmasy.

00:46:52.000 I mean, it's from Dallas.

00:46:54.000 That church is in Dallas.

00:46:56.000 That's in Dallas.

00:46:58.000 If the South is like the Texas Bible Belt, Dallas is like the belt buckle, you know?

00:47:08.000 Just massive churches.

00:47:10.000 They call that church Preston World.

00:47:13.000 It's like a college campus, so to speak.

00:47:16.000 It's not what I picture God meant when he's talking about church.

00:47:21.000 But I mean, I know Jake loves it because he's so cringe.

00:47:26.000 I've been in that world, but that doesn't feel like the world, you know, that we've even ever gotten to that level.

00:47:30.000 It's interesting.

00:47:32.000 In Dallas, the argument would be like they have to compete with all the great churches of the world.

00:47:37.000 That's always the argument.

00:47:38.000 We've got to do more and more and more.

00:47:40.000 So it's interesting.

00:47:41.000 Massey, as an Iranian drummer atheist, would he go to a church that he would know he could fly in the rafters?

00:47:50.000 Or is that not appealing?

00:47:52.000 Do you say it's all show and I don't want to step foot in that church?

00:47:56.000 Is there something that goes, oh, I'd go visit there?

00:47:59.000 The drumming is really good.

00:48:01.000 They like Drum Core International, those guys.

00:48:02.000 I think Americans have just got the best drummers in the world because you do it in colleges.

00:48:07.000 It's just insane.

00:48:08.000 But yeah, I mean, that just didn't seem very Christmassy to me.

00:48:11.000 Seems very American over the top.

00:48:13.000 But I do love the mega church stuff.

00:48:15.000 I love all that stuff.

00:48:16.000 So, hey, I'd go to it.

00:48:18.000 It makes me think about the righteous gemstones that they had some good people giving them information when they created that show.

00:48:28.000 Aristotle talking about tragedy and theater said you need like spectacle is one of the tools.

00:48:36.000 It's like one of you can use spectacle.

00:48:39.000 But really, you know, in poetics, that's what it was in Aristotle's poetics.

00:48:45.000 But there needs to be sort of meaning and plot.

00:48:48.000 Like, see, the idea of the spectacular, I suppose, is an allusion to glory.

00:48:54.000 That God is glorious.

00:48:55.000 That when Christ returns, it's going to be in this glory and it's going to be in a way that we can't quite even conceive of.

00:49:02.000 That he's white and luminous and that the whiteness even affects his clothes and his hair and everything's sort of bright and radiant and solid somehow, more solid, not ethereal.

00:49:14.000 And like when you're sort of the lights and fantastic things, you know, see, what's the difference between that Paris Lilith parade and that Texan churches spectacle?

00:49:27.000 It's both that they're displays of power.

00:49:31.000 And I would say in a sense, that in a way, what difference does it make if you're saying that this Lilith is super powerful?

00:49:38.000 Or if you're saying banging the drums and floating around in the air is powerful.

00:49:41.000 Unless it, like, what does it come down to?

00:49:43.000 What does it come down to?

00:49:44.000 We're going to die. 1.00

00:49:45.000 You're going to die. 0.99

00:49:46.000 There's going to be a moment.

00:49:47.000 Think of the person you love most in the world.

00:49:49.000 Think of them.

00:49:49.000 There's going to be a moment where either you're looking in their eyes.

00:49:52.000 If you're lucky, there's going to be a moment where you're looking into their eyes or they're looking to yours and it's going to be like, see you then.

00:49:57.000 See ya.

00:49:58.000 See ya.

00:49:59.000 And in that moment, what you got?

00:50:02.000 West Ham?

00:50:03.000 Is that what you got?

00:50:04.000 Is that who we'll bring in?

00:50:05.000 West Am.

00:50:07.000 Like, you know, what?

00:50:08.000 Like, what are you going to bring?

00:50:11.000 And like, that's why what interests me is that them lot, the disciples is who I mean by them lot.

00:50:18.000 Them lot, like when he was alive, were like shatter themselves.

00:50:22.000 Like, oh, man, that's gotten too heavy.

00:50:24.000 I'm out.

00:50:25.000 And then not long after that, they were all willing to, oh, well, we've seen, I've seen a deeper truth.

00:50:30.000 We're flawed and broken.

00:50:32.000 Even when they'd seen him walk on water, they still were like, can you just keep your eyes open for an hour while I'm praying?

00:50:39.000 Oh, sorry, I fell asleep.

00:50:41.000 I like the fallibility.

00:50:42.000 I like the brokenness.

00:50:44.000 And what?

00:50:47.000 Look, I don't feel like I've met very many people that are cleverer than me.

00:50:52.000 I don't think so.

00:50:53.000 Like, when I've spoken to people, they're really clever.

00:50:55.000 Like, you know, like I've sat and talked to Save Jordan Peterson or academics and stuff like that.

00:50:59.000 And the truth is, I'd like, when I concentrate, I really understand.

00:51:02.000 I find it hard sometimes when people get into music or mathematics or things that are sort of very particular disciplines.

00:51:07.000 I sort of think, oh, gosh, I don't understand what you're saying anymore.

00:51:10.000 But when people are talking about broad ideas and spiritual ideas, I don't think I've ever not been able to understand it, right?

00:51:17.000 So when I've like, when I'm going into this, this is, it's talking in a way that's beyond human reason.

00:51:24.000 And that's sort of hard.

00:51:26.000 And the things I've learned from taking drugs of sort of, you know, like how I've messed up my brain with drugs, it reaches me in that place, the super rational, the peace that passes of all understanding.

00:51:39.000 It's beyond the rational mind.

00:51:41.000 And I think that we're in such a kind of contentious moment of crisis.

00:51:45.000 And I know people go, well, it's always been a crisis.

00:51:47.000 The First World War was a crisis.

00:51:49.000 Yeah, but that ain't that long ago, actually.

00:51:51.000 It's only 100 years ago.

00:51:53.000 So what I feel is where we are now, I think we are, you see, again, 12 steps is useful.

00:51:59.000 I'm going back to 12 steps.

00:52:00.000 Like when it's when do you get to that point of no human power could relieve us of our addiction or our condition, I think that the cultures at that point, no human power.

00:52:10.000 There's no human.

00:52:11.000 And what the culture is trying to tell you is, we can, because AI is going to be able to do this and robotics is going to be do that.

00:52:17.000 And we all know that what will happen with robotics and AI is that it will centralize around existing power structures and they'll become more powerful.

00:52:25.000 That's what will happen.

00:52:27.000 We know that already.

00:52:30.000 And I think the only way out of that is if we learn, like you said, Dave, the human heart is incorruptible.

00:52:37.000 That's the only thing Satan can't get.

00:52:38.000 Of course, he corrupts all of our hearts at points.

00:52:41.000 But that's the place where you potentially can assert some ownership.

00:52:45.000 That's the place we must fight from.

00:52:47.000 That's the place we must fight from.

00:52:49.000 And I think the technology for enlightenment is in this book.

00:52:53.000 I think it's in this book.

00:52:55.000 And I think it's in him, in the figure of him.

00:52:57.000 And I don't like, even though I said that thing about me being very clever and all that, I don't think that that's necessary.

00:53:03.000 In fact, I think that that, what is called El Camino, Joe, where you walk up to, you know, that thing in Spain where you go that people.

00:53:13.000 Yeah, that.

00:53:14.000 Yeah, it might be, yeah.

00:53:16.000 I'm not 100% sure.

00:53:17.000 I sort of want to do it.

00:53:18.000 It's in March.

00:53:19.000 And one of the things I heard about that is when you go there, you meet some like old lady or whatever, and she's not going to talk to you about, you know, Thomas Aquinas or anything, but she's going to show you that she's serious about God by crawling along on her belly or whatever.

00:53:33.000 And it's not about intellect.

00:53:35.000 What I mean to say, the reason I mentioned the cleverness, and I've never really been that baffled by sort of clever people that I've encountered, is because of the misapprehension I had about scripture prior to encountering it.

00:53:47.000 But prior to encountering it, I thought, I know what this is.

00:53:50.000 This is bollocks.

00:53:52.000 I get it.

00:53:52.000 I know this scam.

00:53:54.000 Even say when someone like Ricky Gervais, who I admire, said that there was an argument in his household when he was a kid and someone said, like, he overheard his mum say something to his brother and she went like that.

00:54:06.000 Like, you know, like they talked about Jesus in a way that was like, oh yeah, that's for the kids.

00:54:11.000 Ricky was a little boy then.

00:54:14.000 And the mum, oh yeah, well, that's all made up kind of thing.

00:54:16.000 Not in front of him.

00:54:17.000 And he was like, oh, it's bollocks.

00:54:20.000 Almost like Santa Claus.

00:54:21.000 Like Santa Claus.

00:54:21.000 Yeah.

00:54:22.000 Like Santa Claus.

00:54:24.000 And I thought some version of that.

00:54:27.000 But what I think is, is you can never go, the deeper you go into it, the more is revealed.

00:54:34.000 Like it keeps revealing more and more.

00:54:36.000 And actually, if you take it seriously, what it does to you as an individual and what it would do to whole cultures is transform us.

00:54:43.000 That's its point, is about transfiguration, transformation, ascendance.

00:54:49.000 And also this allusion to a time where, again, why I suppose I'm interested in the Garden of Eden stuff and the Genesis stuff, even though obviously it's moving between poetics and symbolism and language that couldn't be understood by a rational mind, which is Del Say in Eastern mysticism, that which can be described as the Tao is not the Tao.

00:55:08.000 That idea, which, you know, it's everywhere.

00:55:09.000 You can find these things everywhere.

00:55:11.000 Is that in the original state, in the original state, perhaps we were all like him.

00:55:16.000 We were all like beings.

00:55:18.000 We all had a different relationship with matter.

00:55:20.000 Like C.S. Lewis says, you know, when your consciousness interacts with your cortices and moves your body, do you think that's the only way that can operate?

00:55:31.000 Is it not possible that your consciousness can move matter from across the world?

00:55:35.000 And when the revelation comes in quantum mechanics of entanglement, that the reversal of an electron reverses its partner electrons spiral simultaneously, that shows you that space and time are not what we think they are.

00:55:55.000 Even the theory of relativity sort of touched on the edges of that.

00:55:58.000 So what I'm saying is, is this does describe in various degrees of, I don't want to say competence, but sometimes it's opaque because of the customs and the language and the limits of our understanding.

00:56:11.000 But it's describing the reality that science is beginning to see the hem of the garment.

00:56:18.000 It's seeing the hem of the garment.

00:56:20.000 But science wants to materialize everything because science is ultimately funded by rational materialist resources.

00:56:28.000 And those resources are Luciferian.

00:56:31.000 And by Luciferian in this context, I mean the attempt by a secondary agent, not the principal, to share dominion with God, with the highest principle.

00:56:41.000 And like it says about Christ, being his son, didn't seek equality with him.

00:56:46.000 Even being his son, like recognize there's this thing that's more powerful.

00:56:50.000 And that hubris and that horror, that hubris and that horror of human arrogance and our demand for a sort of power on its own is, I think, the sort of driving force.

00:57:03.000 It's the tip of the spear.

00:57:04.000 And that's what we, I guess, we've got to oppose.

00:57:06.000 And so I don't know, man.

00:57:07.000 I like to sort of go back and make a movie.

00:57:09.000 I don't know how I would marshal myself to do that because I think about my children.

00:57:13.000 I think about what is like, how long is this going to go before people are rounding our kids up into camps?

00:57:18.000 That's what I do think's coming down the barrel is rounding our kids up into camps.

00:57:24.000 So I think that the reason we're all here together is not to make movies.

00:57:28.000 I think it's to build armies.

00:57:30.000 I think we're here to build armies.

00:57:31.000 I think we're here to build armies.

00:57:33.000 Participate in it. 1.00

00:57:33.000 Like maybe I'll go to jail for rape for 10 years in June next year and I'll be, oh, I'll just fucking read books to this bunch of fuckers in here. 1.00

00:57:42.000 But maybe it's not that. 1.00

00:57:43.000 Maybe it's right.

00:57:44.000 Let's go.

00:57:46.000 I knew it. 1.00

00:57:46.000 I knew God must have put it in me that I'm crazy enough to die for shit for a reason. 1.00

00:57:51.000 He must have put it there for a reason. 1.00

00:57:53.000 Because now I'm not going to do it for some narcissistic, arrogant thing.

00:57:56.000 I'm doing it for something that matters.

00:57:57.000 Same as you, Joe.

00:57:59.000 Same as you.

00:58:00.000 Like, you know, if we have to die for it, we'd like, you know, get ready.

00:58:03.000 You've got your skill sets better.

00:58:04.000 Yours might be, you know, you're going to be able to block a few headshots.

00:58:08.000 Still up.

00:58:09.000 I'm ready, mate.

00:58:10.000 I'm ready.

00:58:11.000 So once you've got like a population or a significant percentage of the population ready for martyrdom, I'm scared.

00:58:15.000 I don't like suffering.

00:58:16.000 I don't like mild discomfort. 1.00

00:58:18.000 I don't want to go bald, let alone fucking have me head cut off. 0.98

00:58:21.000 Yeah, I think Joe's a good example of it, too, because you think about Joe's the bruiser, but yet he's bringing all this deep philosophy and spirit. 0.99

00:58:31.000 And that's only Jesus.

00:58:34.000 He transforms us.

00:58:36.000 What are we all going to do?

00:58:38.000 What's it done to you, Joe?

00:58:40.000 Transformed me, that's for sure.

00:58:42.000 What from to what?

00:58:44.000 From a psychotic, alcoholic, drug addict, maniac to someone who tries to live in line with his will on a daily basis and help other people, emptying myself every day.

00:58:57.000 You know, it's not always easy, but I feel like I do pretty good with that. 0.73

00:59:03.000 Even if I find that I'm scrolling excessively on my phone or looking at jackets or trainers or bullshit or things on Instagram, do you know what I mean?

00:59:10.000 I think this ain't useful to no one and this isn't what I should be doing.

00:59:14.000 Whereas I guess like the way the culture is set up, it's like you're just self-serving all the time, looking for the next thing, go to work to get the money to get that, to do that, to do that.

00:59:24.000 And I don't do that now.

00:59:27.000 I fall into it short periods of time.

00:59:29.000 And for me, I believe once you have like a real spiritual awakening through Christ, when you try and fill that void with San Kelse, you'll fall into complete despair in no time.

00:59:39.000 Yeah, complete despair in no time.

00:59:43.000 Like, it's staggered, isn't it?

00:59:45.000 The sort of awakening in like from drug addiction.

00:59:48.000 It's a staggered awakening.

00:59:50.000 You've got this moment, you get a window when you stop taking drugs and stop drinking. 0.99

00:59:55.000 And Dave actually had a pretty unusual experience of it because Dave got hit up by the Lord like at 16 or something stupid. 0.78

01:00:02.000 17, right before I turned 18. 0.73

01:00:04.000 And he went from heroin to Jesus straight away.

01:00:09.000 I mean, mine was very black and white.

01:00:11.000 It was in a day.

01:00:14.000 I mean, was running from him and he grabbed a hold of me.

01:00:17.000 Like, was not pursuing him.

01:00:19.000 Let's go the opposite way.

01:00:22.000 Mine was very dramatic.

01:00:23.000 Most people don't have the same or similar type deal, but mine was really dramatic.

01:00:30.000 I was fourth time in rehab, and it was like a repeat offender program.

01:00:35.000 I was about to go to jail.

01:00:36.000 I told a West Texas judge to go F himself, and he had slapped me with a couple warrants.

01:00:44.000 And so when I was in that, like, I mean, it blew me up big time.

01:00:52.000 But most people don't.

01:00:54.000 Even though the outside circumstances are different, I mean, what really happened was what happened internally.

01:01:02.000 And when I try and think about that time, I think, I mean, when he saved me, like, food tastes different, things smelled different.

01:01:12.000 Like trying to describe what happened to me internally, I mean, just coming to the realization that God's actually real, like, he's actually real.

01:01:23.000 It absolutely the best word for it is reborn, to be honest.

01:01:29.000 Oh! 0.60

01:01:30.000 I knew it.

01:01:31.000 I knew you were going to do that.

01:01:33.000 We were kind of treating it with that.

01:01:34.000 No.

01:01:35.000 Yeah, that's good.

01:01:35.000 It is like being reborn.

01:01:37.000 See you, though, Jake.

01:01:38.000 Any of that you was Christian?

01:01:39.000 How does it, what happened if you have it anyway?

01:01:42.000 I mean, I know Jay was sort of Catholic family.

01:01:45.000 How are you getting when is there a sort of a distinct moment where you feel like you're the recipient of that kind of vivid grace?

01:01:53.000 What is it?

01:01:53.000 What does it happen if you grow up in a Christian family?

01:01:57.000 Well, I think it's the understanding that it's not like here's a really good person and therefore he's elevated over somebody who's done drugs or been in addiction when you realize none of us are good, even at the best that we could possibly be.

01:02:13.000 Even if you came from a good family, even if you've done all the right things apart from Jesus, it's not enough.

01:02:19.000 So there has to be a point of salvation and then the process of salvation that happens.

01:02:25.000 So I'm thankful for my upbringing.

01:02:28.000 I'm thankful that I grew up in church, but it's not enough that you were in a family and you went to church and therefore you're automatically saved.

01:02:36.000 You have to work out your salvation.

01:02:37.000 So for me, it was like I gave my life to Jesus at a young age.

01:02:42.000 And then there's just been this process over the last 30 years of stripping away of self, of thinking I got something right, just to realize I was letting pride or arrogance slip in and let God, through sanctification, sharpen and shape in me to make me more like him.

01:03:01.000 And we talk all the time about life.

01:03:04.000 Life has a way of doing it.

01:03:06.000 It doesn't mean that if you grew up in a Christian home or you've had a good family, that you're not going to go through trials or hardships or any of those things.

01:03:14.000 So I think for me, pride has been the thing that's been constantly chipped off of me over a long time of a lot of ups and downs, hardships, trials.

01:03:28.000 And so I feel like mine wasn't, you know, I wasn't doing hardcore drugs at five years old, but I gave my life to Jesus when I was six and it was real.

01:03:38.000 Do you remember it?

01:03:39.000 I remember it.

01:03:40.000 I remember.

01:03:40.000 What was it?

01:03:41.000 What do you remember?

01:03:44.000 The moment that you keep talking about, we're all going to die.

01:03:47.000 We're going to die.

01:03:49.000 I mean, I remember at six.

01:03:51.000 And my parents, my mom had cancer when I was young.

01:03:55.000 That was a very like, okay, this is like real life happening, a lot of bad things happening.

01:04:01.000 And if I don't know Jesus, if I don't have an understanding of where I'm going when I die, and if I don't trust him with my life, I'm in trouble no matter where I came from.

01:04:14.000 And so, man, it's been a process, but God's faithful through it all.

01:04:20.000 Even us sitting in this room is a result of God's faithfulness in our story.

01:04:27.000 I keep thinking about like the clay and the potter and I've been like I've been having these meditative experiences that I learned TM, you know, transcendental meditation years ago with the David Lynch Foundation, which is like the repetition of a mantra.

01:04:46.000 It's a word they give you that don't have no meaning, they say, so that you can ultimately, through turning that word over in your mind, you achieve these kind of states of, I guess, relaxation, one might say, although maybe they're accompanying phenomena, you know.

01:05:01.000 Anyway, so I sort of put that aside, come into the Lord.

01:05:04.000 But I've been doing this Course of Miracles, which is, you know, it's like a Christian, it's Christian.

01:05:12.000 When I'm reading it, there's nothing in it.

01:05:15.000 Like now, my manner of discernment is to identify if ever anything is straying outside of this.

01:05:23.000 That's what I look for.

01:05:25.000 Say, you know, like I go yoga and I know that there's people that teach, like some of my Christian and scripture teachers, oh, don't go yoga, it's opening you up for demonic possession or whatever.

01:05:33.000 And I'm like, it ain't doing that to me because I'm like, I'm all I'm thinking about is Jesus when I'm in there.

01:05:37.000 It's become real to you.

01:05:39.000 That's why I think it's even the hard time of like, I'm not going to go do anything that takes away from my journey with Christ, which it's harder when somebody's maybe grown up in that world to see the importance.

01:05:51.000 Like this is everything.

01:05:52.000 This is what we have.

01:05:53.000 But if you don't have that center line, which is the most of the world, you don't even know when you're off.

01:05:59.000 That's what we always talk about countries that are still trying to put the definition of morality, but they don't believe in God.

01:06:07.000 And it's like, why is there anything?

01:06:09.000 If there's no God, then do whatever you want.

01:06:13.000 Yeah.

01:06:13.000 That's the reality of it.

01:06:14.000 So I think it's just, it's real for you, man, and it's beautiful to see.

01:06:18.000 I've been to that yoga class.

01:06:20.000 You better be thinking about Jesus while you're in there.

01:06:22.000 There are some distractions.

01:06:25.000 You have to stay close to the Lord.

01:06:27.000 Jesus, just me and you, Jesus.

01:06:30.000 Oh, yeah, I noticed that.

01:06:31.000 But like, yeah, for me, like the idea that I on my own in a hat ox, this is me, I'm not talking about anyone else, would not like, you know, because I don't know when it happened.

01:06:40.000 It must have happened recently where I was like, there was nothing to do.

01:06:43.000 And like, the idea that I would look at porn, it's just, I just wouldn't do it.

01:06:47.000 I wouldn't like, like, that, that is on it.

01:06:50.000 That has become unacceptable.

01:06:52.000 That has become unacceptable to me.

01:06:55.000 And like, I was a person, as soon as I was on my own, I'm like, well, how am I going to, how am I going to have sex?

01:07:00.000 What am I going to do? 0.98

01:07:01.000 This is ridiculous. 0.98

01:07:02.000 I can't believe it. 0.96

01:07:04.000 It's been taken.

01:07:04.000 And if you can take that, I guess now what it is, is it's like jiu-jitsu.

01:07:09.000 Jiu-Jitsu is good.

01:07:09.000 I tell you why Jiu-Jitsu is good because it's like, you know, in England, the word is cordial, like Kiora or Ribena.

01:07:16.000 I don't know if Americans even have it.

01:07:18.000 I can't work it out.

01:07:19.000 Where you pour like a thick syrup of a thing, then you add water, and then that's the drink.

01:07:25.000 Like, you know, it'd be an orange one.

01:07:27.000 You can have soda streams, you can have a Coca-Cola one. 1.00

01:07:29.000 It's always shit. 0.98

01:07:30.000 But like, so anyway, like, I think what jujitsu does is it's a thicker version of life. 0.99

01:07:37.000 Because what you have to do in jujitsu is you have to relax and surrender, sort of, but you also have to be active.

01:07:44.000 You have to be in this state of active surrender.

01:07:47.000 And because I do it, if like Carlos, my teacher, is like a master, like a blackberry, like he'll like just elevate the tension at will. 0.97

01:07:55.000 And the other day, and frankly, without warning, he fucking assaulted me. 0.95

01:08:00.000 I mean, that's the only way I describe it. 0.99

01:08:02.000 He just came over, got on me, like we were talking.

01:08:05.000 We were talking.

01:08:06.000 It was going well, I thought.

01:08:07.000 Like, we were just having a chat.

01:08:08.000 And then he just went through at me, like, got me underneath him.

01:08:11.000 And then he was like punching me, but he was pulling the punches, you know, so but so, but it felt like the equivalent of, what can I do it on?

01:08:19.000 It was sort of like, like, going like, like, just sort of like, but it's still in your face. 0.99

01:08:23.000 He's like, fuck it, I don't know. 0.98

01:08:25.000 Like, right, what I noticed is when I was in that state of agitation, I forgot how to do the stuff. 1.00

01:08:33.000 I forgot how to go, right?

01:08:35.000 Trap that arm, trap that leg, buck your hips, throw him over your head, keep aware of his arms, like then you'll be okay.

01:08:43.000 You know, like, so when the tension, like, but if it's, if it's sort of gradual, I can adjust to it.

01:08:49.000 And so what I'm trying to learn is in the environments of increasing stimulation, can I maintain my connection with God?

01:08:59.000 What's been amazing, like, in the last year, obviously being accused of charged with rape and everything, is like when we go to them court cases, like I feel held.

01:09:09.000 Like when we sort of go there, I feel like that is not like I see when I sort of feel the paparazzi leaning over, I think like, oh, you're, this is not, you guys are not, you're not the goodies.

01:09:20.000 You're not the goodies.

01:09:21.000 You're not like, we're here to make sure justice is done.

01:09:24.000 You can see that it's sort of monstrous.

01:09:27.000 And even when you're in the court, the absurdity of it, the wigs, the robes, the sigils, like, why is there a sigil of a unicorn chained and a lion?

01:09:37.000 What is that?

01:09:38.000 What do you mean?

01:09:39.000 Get rid of it then.

01:09:40.000 If it don't mean anything, get rid of it.

01:09:41.000 Don't do it.

01:09:42.000 Why are you wearing a wig?

01:09:44.000 If it don't mean anything, don't do it.

01:09:45.000 Why are you wearing a rope?

01:09:47.000 If it don't mean anything, if nothing means anything, you know, everyone knows that there's a secondary, deeper reality that we are participating in all the time.

01:09:57.000 And what Christianity does is tells you how to negotiate with it, enhance it, and avoid the comparable and similar energy systems that will capture you if you're not careful. 0.81

01:10:08.000 And I suppose, like, I don't know, man, I'm interested in mysticism, so I get fucking confused.

01:10:13.000 So James 1, where it talks about considerate pure joy when you face trials of any kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance.

01:10:24.000 And then let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.

01:10:31.000 And I think God is good that he doesn't always give it to us all at once.

01:10:38.000 Here's just all the testing and trial all at once.

01:10:41.000 But then he gives you, you walk through life and it's like, how good is your training?

01:10:47.000 Are you still lacking in anything?

01:10:48.000 So when Carlos just beats you up, it's like, that's a test.

01:10:53.000 You're still lacking in this, this, and this.

01:10:55.000 But as that pressure gets put on you, the more pressure you're under, the better endurance you have.

01:11:03.000 And one day you're lacking in nothing.

01:11:05.000 That's the promise from God.

01:11:07.000 Yeah.

01:11:07.000 Yeah, you need the trials.

01:11:09.000 Like you need it.

01:11:10.000 You can't be ready for it in the other side unless you have that trials.

01:11:15.000 Like I think when even when jiu-jitsu started, that was kind of the premise of it.

01:11:20.000 It's that they didn't hold their punches.

01:11:24.000 And that's really where Carlos came from.

01:11:26.000 But what I like about jiu-jitsu, it is just a microcosm of this world.

01:11:30.000 And so like, it's not about, I mean, yes, it's about getting better as a grappler, but, you know, it's really about working out your real world stuff on the mats.

01:11:42.000 It's given like that, the one you mentioned, the lady in Spain that will crawl with you up a hill in a same way.

01:11:50.000 It's that doing something physically that's representing what's going on internally.

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:11:55.000 I wonder why that's so important.

01:11:57.000 I suppose because we are incarnated.

01:11:59.000 It in flesh, we're spirit in flesh.

01:12:02.000 So, working it out in the flesh is important.

01:12:05.000 The problem we have is we go so into the flesh into decadence, hedonism, worship of sexuality, all of the false idol stuff is don't worship other stuff.

01:12:13.000 I noticed as well lately how often there are references in the Old Testament to things that sound like antennae, you know, there are literal poles and horns and things that sound like their function is to direct ethereal and difficult to detect energy.

01:12:33.000 But, like, you're right.

01:12:34.000 Like, can you command the flesh through surrender?

01:12:37.000 Through surrender, can you yield?

01:12:40.000 I don't know, man.

01:12:41.000 All right, listen, we've been doing this for so long.

01:12:43.000 We should wrap it up because we've got to do something.

01:12:45.000 My clip, did y'all have mine?

01:12:47.000 All right, that's a good one.

01:12:49.000 All right, this is Dave.

01:12:50.000 What is it, Dave?

01:12:51.000 And on a light note, yeah, this one's funny.

01:12:54.000 Uh, it's it's a guy sharing a heartfelt moment.

01:12:57.000 It's a guy sharing a heartfelt moment.

01:12:59.000 Yeah, this is all Dave's willing to give us.

01:13:02.000 I was alone on the porch with my boy one night, just me and him.

01:13:06.000 And I looked at him and he looked at me, and I said, Would you rather have $10 million in your pocket right now or for one night and one night only, get all the boys back together and have a bonfire? 1.00

01:13:27.000 And he looked at me and he said, Are you fucking retarded? 0.99

01:13:31.000 Of course, I'm taking that money. 1.00

01:13:33.000 I have a family, I need that money.

01:13:35.000 I don't even like half our friends, I'm just stuck with them from high school.

01:13:39.000 I've outgrown them like three separate times, and I'm just chained in this group chat.

01:13:44.000 And I don't even know who's who anymore because someone got an Android and now all the bubbles are green.

01:13:48.000 It's really ruined the group chat, it's really ruined the chemistry anybody had going.

01:13:52.000 I don't even know if everybody can see the memes or the gifs.

01:13:56.000 And Mike, he hates Mike, man.

01:13:58.000 He's telling me how much he hates Mike.

01:14:00.000 Mike cheats at golf.

01:14:01.000 We all know that.

01:14:01.000 And I'm pretty sure that cheating from golf is starting to transfer into his marriage.

01:14:05.000 He's doing some real shady stuff when the sun goes down.

01:14:09.000 On and off the course.

01:14:10.000 I'll tell you that right now.

01:14:13.000 I get it, man.

01:14:13.000 A lot of our friends are 35 years old.

01:14:15.000 They're still single.

01:14:16.000 It's scary. 1.00

01:14:17.000 It's like being around a loaded gun with a penis. 1.00

01:14:20.000 It's scary. 1.00

01:14:22.000 I got to distance myself from those guys too.

01:14:24.000 This guy kind of opened my eyes when he said that, actually.

01:14:27.000 I stopped talking to him.

01:14:28.000 I realized we didn't really have much in common either.

01:14:31.000 I don't even think he knows my middle name.

01:14:33.000 So yeah, I'm taking that $10 million as well.

01:14:36.000 And I'm just going to chill.

01:14:38.000 Maybe start a company or something.

01:14:41.000 It's very funny.

01:14:43.000 The transitions are so good.

01:14:45.000 The transition.

01:14:46.000 I'm like, it really does sound like, yeah, it's going to be overly sincere and mawkish.

01:14:53.000 My favorite is when he goes into Mike.

01:14:55.000 I don't even like Mike.

01:14:59.000 That's very funny.

01:15:00.000 That's very funny.

01:15:01.000 All right.

01:15:01.000 Thanks for joining us, you lot.

01:15:02.000 And the next show, what day is this even?

01:15:05.000 Friday.

01:15:06.000 Monday is good, isn't it?

01:15:09.000 This is Friday.

01:15:10.000 Monday is a lot of content about COVID, all the stuff I was trying to talk about at the beginning, actually.

01:15:14.000 That's all in the show Monday.

01:15:16.000 Stuff that's going on in the UK, Elon Musk's war with the EU.

01:15:20.000 And then the other one is COVID, Elon Musk for War with the EU.

01:15:26.000 I can't remember it.

01:15:27.000 You'll have to watch the show.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - December 12, 2025

From Oil Tankers to Impeachment: How Power Is Being Asserted - SF662

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