Russell Brand is joined by Jake, Luke, Isaac and Luke for the first episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand, where they discuss the Diddy trial, Bill Gates, Joe Rogan and whether or not Hitler is a good guy.
00:02:45.000If you're watching us on X or YouTube, join me, Jake.
00:02:49.000Isaac, Massey, and Luke for our first day.
00:02:52.000I don't want to say gangbang because of the implications, and we're talking about OnlyFans a little while later.
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00:02:59.000Over the course of the show, I mean, we're going to be talking about Bill Gates and a level of nefarious malfeasance that will be hard to believe unless you've been studying him.
00:03:08.000Let me know in the comments and chat if you know why Bill Gates remains an adored billionaire in social...
00:05:07.000Tim Dillon pointed out the sort of peculiar fact that Sam Harris runs a meditation app and by day is like, okay, breathe, you know, let go, observe your thoughts like clouds.
00:05:19.000But elsewhere has pretty strong views on Israel's role in the Middle East and their, I don't know, lack of liability when it comes to events in Gaza.
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00:17:41.000I think these days if you show a tower falling over in a movie, that's such a sort of potent piece of American iconography.
00:17:47.000I don't know if you've ever looked at the number of skyscrapers collapsing in and around and prior, importantly, prior to 9-11.
00:17:55.000It was almost like a cultural moment where the image of falling towers and decimation of cities became very prominent and popular right before that literally actually happened.
00:18:06.000Obviously, excuse me, the Tower of Babel is an image that's sort of resonant for all humankind.
00:18:13.000The image of the tower is, of course, it's priapic and it's phallic, but it's...
00:18:20.000Also, it's man's power can ascend and transcend the limits of nature.
00:18:26.000I guess masonry is why stonemasons and masonic culture important because they're the first people that managed to manipulate and manoeuvre and build and create spaces that were beyond shelter.
00:18:37.000They were actually now, we're making permanent incursions into the natural world.
00:18:44.000I would question myself in the same situation and consider the consequences.
00:21:09.000But is Superman, James Gunn's Superman, the first post-Trump superhero movie that knows it has to reach out to the MAGA movement and the Trump bros?
00:21:19.000Can't be one of those kind of Marvel liberal movies that take a very particular...
00:21:26.000Potentially pejorative position when it comes to right-wing politics.
00:22:48.000Well, he was ousted by Marvel because he got cancelled for some Twitter posts that he made back in the day, and they took him off of Guardians of the Galaxy.
00:22:56.000And then when people basically went up in a riot over that, they asked him to come back.
00:23:01.000So he did Guardians of the Galaxy 3, but then he did the Suicide Squad, the second one.
00:23:07.000Is that good, the one with the shark head?
00:23:12.000So the second one was really good, and they basically had him head up the entire DC cinematic universe and took out, basically, I guess, Zack Snyder, who did the first couple of Superman movies.
00:23:25.000So that's why now he's doing all of the DC stuff.
00:24:12.000I'm gonna go see it, but if I'm honest with you, I feel like the guy that they picked to play Superman, I feel like the guy that's playing, I don't know, is that young Lex Luthor or whoever, they all kind of look like goons.
00:24:21.000Like, I feel like the casting kind of sucked here.
00:24:23.000Maybe that's just me, but I feel like the casting sucked.
00:32:02.000Like, still a person who looked at pornography.
00:32:04.000You could meet someone, talk to them, like, and then go on the internet and, like, talk to them live and have them doing all sorts of stuff.
00:32:13.000I just feel like that is the highway right to hell.
00:32:16.000That's the super highway to hell right there.
00:32:19.000But it remains fascinating because of the normalization of pornography, the framing of pornography as empowerment.
00:33:55.000Reddit is absolutely full of this stuff.
00:33:56.000I'm on the drumming subreddit on Reddit.
00:33:58.000And every now and then you see like a girl there with a just in a bra playing the drums.
00:34:03.000And then you click through her profile, you find she's got an OnlyFans.
00:34:06.000Girls are not only doing pornography from home, they're now promoting it in other places and infiltrating, but now they're competing with each other, and this new trend with AI is they're putting Down Syndrome filters on themselves so they look like a hot girl with Down Syndrome to promote their OnlyFans, and this is like a new trend.
00:34:29.000you know i haven't been on any fans but i've seen this trend uh in other commentators kind of talking about it i've got some thoughts on it i don't know what you guys think about the way the world is going i mean who would have thought you could make your own pornography from home and you could make yourself look like you have If you have to make the moral argument for OnlyFans, it's the same argument that would be made when prostitutes are able to operate without the intervention of...
00:35:02.000People would say it's better that women have direct access because at least they're not being exploited or trafficked.
00:35:08.000There's a point, though, when I think you have to consider what the underlying phenomena of all reality is.
00:35:16.000Is there such a thing as good and evil?
00:35:19.000And what gets me is the commodification of everything and the boundlessness of everything.
00:35:26.000In the conversations we've had about Kanye West, In a way, he's creating, if you ask me, controlled detonations of taboos as only an artist can do.
00:35:37.000Now, that don't mean that if you are, as Isaac is Jewish, that the phrase Heil Hitler is not always going to contain a great deal of pain and resonance and despair, and that you can certainly make an argument for people not saying Heil Hitler.
00:35:53.000It's offensive in loads and loads of ways.
00:35:58.000Appropriate those tools and taboos and items and maybe do something interesting and explosive and indicative and revealing with those things.
00:36:07.000Now, are you saying then that Kanye West belongs to a strata of society by virtue of his success and excellence that doesn't include...
00:36:16.000Any young woman or man that can use OnlyFans having the right to deploy a filter to make themselves look down in an increasingly bizarre race to create novelty and arousal, I'd say it's no longer art anymore.
00:36:31.000I mean, it's not even supposed to be art anyway.
00:36:33.000I mean, pornography is obviously explicitly and obviously and functionally different from art.
00:36:38.000Pornography is, let's locate and isolate.
00:36:42.000The erotic and even really, to be honest, extract the love from it because once there's no longer a human interaction but it's being mediated through technology and screens, I just feel like it's actually, you know, you get...
00:36:58.000We're all on X. I don't know why there's naked women cropping up on my X feed.
00:37:02.000I don't follow anything that would lead to that, but there are naked women.
00:37:06.000And then I have to fight myself, because if I was on a drumming subreddit, and all of a sudden there's someone in a bra drumming, that's more interesting to me.
00:37:26.000And that, again, actually does lead me to love on the spectrum because it exposes so much about liberal arguments because, as the title suggests, it is a spectrum.
00:37:37.000So there are some people with autism that are children.
00:37:51.000Then there are other people on the spectrum, like, namely, I'd say Connor, Who's like an eccentric and highly sophisticated adult that's unusual.
00:38:01.000Is there anything wrong with him dating?
00:39:01.000They start to make out in one of the episodes.
00:39:04.000I'm talking about the guy in the Stetson and the young lady that collects dolls.
00:39:08.000And when she introduced him to her parents, they started making out in front of the parents because I suppose they don't know the social code that making out in front of your parents is taboo.
00:39:23.000I would say the fact that they don't understand that protocol is an indication that they probably don't understand the sophisticated protocols involved in giving your consent to participate in a documentary.
00:39:35.000Of course, that consent was likely given by their parents, but I hope that their parents in that moment questioned the...
00:39:57.000People with autism, they find that it's helping them and it's empowering them and it's generating opportunities for them that they wouldn't otherwise have.
00:40:03.000And maybe the actual guy himself, like the guy that's off-camera, that's the auteur of the show, maybe he has the best intentions and hopefully, probably, he has a relative with autism or some sort of credentials that further legitimise his right to do it.
00:40:17.000But the problem is, is when you turn everything into an object, everything, whether it's a sexual object through pornography or a curio like this, like just something for us to look at and potentially laugh at.
00:40:29.000I just think we're in interesting moral territory, and I question the morality of the culture that permits it, and essentially monetizes it, because the minute the money stops, it stops.
00:40:42.000People don't make TV shows if they don't think it's going to make money.
00:40:45.000So whatever people are saying they're making it for, take out...
00:40:49.000Someone once said to me, if you want to know that if your friends are your friends because you give them money, because a lot of my friends worked for me, see what happens when the money stops.
00:41:00.000I learned some important lessons about the significance of money in those relationships.
00:41:06.000And like, so, would these people, you know, I think about it because I think about the documentary that was made about me, all these reasons.
00:41:11.000You know, I know the people that made the documentary about me were like, we're actually exposing an important thing.
00:41:16.000And, you know, like I said to you guys the other day, I mean, I'm, oh God, I don't want to be like a guy who bangs on about his divorce or his...
00:41:23.000But I just know that that documentary wouldn't have got made if it weren't for money, and I'm surprised that it got made when the people in it were not willing to go on camera.
00:41:31.000And I'm surprised that, given the success of the documentary in its own terms, that more documentaries about other people have not been made.
00:41:37.000And those things lead me to a whole bunch of questions, but I'm somewhat off track there, because really what I want to talk about is the morality and ethics of that kind of OnlyFans pornography and love on the spectrum.
00:41:48.000Massey, what do you think first, mate?
00:41:51.000Yeah, I haven't seen the love on the spectrum thing.
00:41:53.000I wanted to ask you, is it okay to joke about this stuff?
00:41:56.000Because, you know, what do you think about people...
00:41:58.000Because you said that some people might have this to laugh at it, as in love on the spectrum.
00:42:08.000And then I wanted to get your feedback on it, really.
00:42:11.000I think it's okay to joke about everything if your intention is not cruelty.
00:42:15.000You know, like, sort of, you know, like, sort of...
00:42:17.000Man, you know, we've all got relationships and connections to people in a variety of situations.
00:42:22.000When I'm making these jokes about Isaac and his Judaism, his racial and religious identity, what I'm doing in my mind, and I hope in Isaac's, is I'm saying, my God, there's this terrible subject in the world at the moment coalescing around Israel and Gaza that's dividing people and generating so much hate, but not here.
00:42:48.000Here, we don't care if you are a Muslim or if you're a Jew, and we're going to try and find ways of, like, our common humanity.
00:42:57.000That's what's sort of in my mind and heart.
00:42:58.000But I mess that up all the time, and I've made so many mistakes around it, like on an interpersonal level and on a social level, as in, do you remember when Robert Malone came on the show?
00:43:09.000Like, I made some joke about Robert Malone, and it pissed him off.
00:43:12.000But what I was trying to say is, I really love you, Robert Malone.
00:43:34.000Now I was just gonna say to you guys I've tried to quit porn over the years and it's been almost impossible and with all the ways I've tried and failed at quitting porn over the years I thought I'd never be able to stop but then I saw this Down syndrome trend and that made quitting almost impossible.
00:43:52.000You see what I tried to do so I'm gonna go and try that but I wanna know how would you deliver that kind of joke I'm just interested in.
00:43:58.000I don't think that's a problem as a joke, that one Like the last minute reversal, I wouldn't repeat the phrase, I'd change it for the last one,
00:44:15.000I'd say something, and now I've committed to masturbating daily for the next six months, or now I find myself masturbating even while at work, but now my problem is premature ejaculation, or the problem is their grip's very strong.
00:44:34.000You know, like I'd maybe take it, try to ratchet it up.
00:44:38.000Like, with a more particular Down syndrome voice.
00:45:07.000There's a sort of famous joke, the aristocrats, and that people tell, and they show, excuse me, a variety of people telling it, Silverman, Seinfeld, the South...
00:45:35.000I think, I feel like their content around COVID was not good because I feel like they were generally somehow supportive of lockdowns or whatever.
00:45:43.000I think they demonstrate a level of comedic understanding.
00:45:48.000Well, that's how from one five-minute VHS...
00:45:51.000Of a Christmas card that they were passing around.
00:45:54.000They've generated a billion-dollar, 30-season-long franchise.
00:45:59.000And not to mention Book of Mormon and some of their movies they've made.
00:46:03.000That is a powerful comedic relationship.
00:46:06.000And a load of it's there, even in their student film, Cannibal, the movie, about a bunch of gold prospectors going mad, which they made as students, I think.
00:46:40.000Like, Jerry Seinfeld, one of the best stand-ups of all time.
00:46:43.000Gary Lineker, a sports pundit in the UK, a World Cup hero, and a generally adored guy whose biggest controversy until recently was that he's the face of a potato chip brand called Walker's Crisps.
00:46:57.000Now, he's posted stuff about Israel that he'll get cancelled off the back of this eventually because he's reposted something that had, I think, proper anti-Semitic imagery that came from a pro-Palestine Twitter account.
00:47:11.000And Jerry Seinfeld, on the other side of it, who is pro-Israel, and as I always say, understandably so, because he's a New York Jew, what would his position be, really?
00:47:23.000He's certainly got skin in the game, so to speak.
00:47:26.000I think what is our culture doing is pulling everyone into an endless maelstrom.
00:47:33.000And that's why I think you need someone like Kanye as a star.
00:47:36.000And I don't know what happens to comedy.
00:47:38.000Comedy probably now is the Theo Vons, the Tim Dylons, the people on the Edgelands that are post.
00:47:45.000You know, they're like people in the Matrix that are born inside Zion.
00:47:48.000They don't have the thing in the back of their head.
00:47:50.000You know, so I think they're the only hope, really.
00:47:55.000I know I went on a long journey there, and I sort of ended nowhere.
00:49:59.000You exist in alternative media spaces.
00:50:01.000But in the mainstream, Bill Gates is still regarded as a kind of hero.
00:50:05.000Not by people who have been the apparent beneficiaries of his philanthropy, like the many farmers across Africa who are attempting to sue him as a result of his intervention into African agriculture.
00:50:15.000Or in India, where many people say that Bill Gates' attempts to intervene in Indian agriculture were reckless and hopeless.
00:51:05.000Let me know in the comments in the chat.
00:51:06.000What makes this story more fascinating and more appalling is that the mainstream media in 2025, after the pandemic, when we learned everything we did about Bill Gates' positions on vaccines, how ineffective his views were, how incorrect he was, the fact that he likely participated in this event where they gamed out the impact of the pandemic a couple of years in advance.
00:51:26.000Even in spite of all this, the legacy media are still willing to provide him with fanfare, trumpets, and let's face it, the Interview equivalent of fellatio every time he steps onto a talk show stage.
00:52:20.000As the businessman and philanthropist who started Microsoft this morning, he announced that he'll be giving away virtually all of his wealth.
00:53:03.000So why is he turning up on late night TV to be given oral satisfaction by a man who's willing to dress up as a vaccine if the situation calls for it?
00:54:13.000This isn't someone who's participating in the denigration of agriculture in Africa, in India, who during the pandemic told us things that were plainly untrue, that was investing in vaccine technology while simultaneously telling us to take vaccines, which...
00:54:25.000At the moment, are under scrutiny, inquiry, and genuine clinical trial, because it turns out they might not have been as good as everyone told us they were.
00:54:33.000Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
00:54:35.000By the way, he hadn't done anything yet.
00:54:37.000Like, if I sort of go, hey, guess what, everyone?
00:54:39.000What I'm planning to do is spend the rest of my time giving dogs haircuts, putting ribbons in their hair, making dogs look really sort of quite beautiful, not for any weird reason, just because I really like dogs.
00:56:39.000Thank you for saving the lives of all these children under five.
00:56:42.000Bill Gates there, casually claiming credit for undead children.
00:56:46.000Let's have a look at some of the deaths that took place during the pandemic.
00:56:49.000Let's have a look at some of the adverse events during the pandemic.
00:56:51.000Let's look at who made profits during the pandemic.
00:56:54.000Let's look at the consequences of Bill Gates' misadventures and incursions into African and Indian agriculture.
00:57:00.000Let's have a proper look at Bill Gates.
00:57:02.000No, let's continue to just celebrate Bill Gates and take his word for it that he's out there saving children, like some bizarro version of Jeffrey Epstein, who, by the way, he used to hang out with a lot.
00:57:44.000Vaccines has become so hotly politicised that an audience starts cheering the concept of vaccines.
00:57:50.000Not thinking for a moment that if they took the second or third booster shot, they were relying on science and indeed following science that actually was backed by experimentation on like five to eight mouses.
00:58:01.000Not reflecting for a second that adverse injuries, myocarditis, various neurological conditions, turbo cancers have all been on the rise since people took those mRNA shots.
00:58:12.000Not reflecting for a second that gain-of-function research is no longer being funded by the government and that we know that the EcoHealth Alliance and DARPA funded...
00:58:20.000Wow, what it must be to be Bill Gates.
00:58:26.000You get a round of applause on the way in, you get a round of applause on the way out.
00:58:29.000You make a load of money when COVID goes into Wuhan.
00:58:31.000You make money when it comes out of Wuhan.
00:58:33.000You make money when people take the vaccines.
00:58:35.000You make money when people have heart attacks because of the vaccines.
00:58:37.000The whole thing's a glorious carousel.
00:58:40.000You get to go on a late night TV show and be applauded for how generous you are.
00:59:26.000He's not some nerd Jesus resurrecting to give us all benefits.
00:59:31.000He's an extremely wealthy person who's found numerous ingenious ways to ensure that his family remains wealthy, to ensure that his brand remains prestigious, never taking responsibility for the extraordinary errors he's made, notably, I'll keep listening, during COVID, in particular around agriculture.
00:59:57.000How are they going to cope if they get someone in there with a little bit of razzmatazz, a bit of charisma, someone who can play a guitar or bang a drum?
01:00:02.000This is Bill Gates just going on there, just telling you fundamentally, I am generous, you should applaud me for accumulating and then giving away a bunch of wealth.
01:00:11.000Anyone who knows anything about the way that plutocracy works would probably have an intuitive understanding that Bill Gates, through Microsoft, likely has contracts and relationships with deep, deep state bureaucracies to ensure that he accumulates wealth because he's being granted access to information way ahead of other people.
01:00:25.000Certainly, that seems to be the case when it comes to George Soros, that other billionaire.
01:01:15.000That, with any luck, will be done in the next five years.
01:01:17.000We can get rid of malaria that's killed hundreds of millions of people over the years.
01:01:23.000We can take even HIV, which we won't get to zero, but cut that by over 90%.
01:01:27.000Here's an interesting item for you, Colbert.
01:01:31.000The origins of HIV and the involvement of Anthony Fauci in the early experimentation that likely, possibly, maybe, allegedly led to it.
01:01:38.000And while you're at it, start looking into Lyme disease and the numerous other peculiar viruses that have likely over time leaked from laboratories that were doing experiments not to help people, but to make money down the line.
01:01:49.000All these people care about is money and power and possibly occultist and esoteric things that I don't understand yet.
01:02:27.000This is the way things are going to stay.
01:02:29.000Do you not, somewhere within you, crave a better world, a different world?
01:02:32.000And do you not recognize that you could participate in its creation?
01:02:35.000And do you not see now more plainly than ever that the institutions of power, whether they are media or financial, exist primarily to ensure that you never, ever challenge their evil dominion?
01:02:45.000You know, I'll have until I'm 90, and then I'll get to retire.
01:03:34.000You know, given how you've dedicated sort of the second half of your career into these altruistic, especially having to do with vaccines and medicine, it must be a very interesting, if not troubling, time for you when there's so much scientific skepticism, especially around things like vaccines, which certainly didn't start in COVID, but accelerated during COVID.
01:03:57.000As a renowned advocate for global health, what do you make of the fact that the new administration has effectively dissolved USAID, axed more than 80% of the programs and funds, fired thousands of employees, cut the CDC budget by $4 billion, down from $9.2 billion.
01:04:30.000So Gavi is a group that was founded the year the...
01:04:33.000Foundation got started to buy vaccines for the poorest children in the world.
01:04:39.000One of the things I learned in the 1990s is I was thinking, okay, what do I do with all this Microsoft wealth that was generated, is I learned why kids were dying.
01:04:51.000And I learned that a lot of those kids, over a million, were dying from diarrhea.
01:04:57.000In fact, Nick Christophe wrote an article that I read and sent a note to my dad, hey, let's work on this.
01:05:03.000I found out that rich kids were actually getting a vaccine so that they didn't get the disease, although they weren't really at risk of dying, and nobody had cost-reduced it and gotten money to get that to all the children.
01:05:15.000And so we did the work to get the price down.
01:05:20.000And then Gavi is an alliance of governments and our foundation that buys those vaccines.
01:05:27.000And so the majority of that reduction has come from getting out those new vaccines.
01:05:32.000What's amazing there is Bill Gates is saying that he wants your tax dollars to continue to fund a foundation that he's telling you is beneficial and positive.
01:05:40.000I suppose that's all well and good as long as you trust Bill Gates and you believe that Bill Gates' agenda is in alignment with your own agenda.
01:05:47.000But what if you think that Bill Gates isn't a philanthropist, that he is in fact an oligarch and that his primary interest is not helping?
01:05:56.000It's accumulating wealth and power and then finding ways to justify continuing to have that wealth and power way beyond even his own death.
01:06:04.000Of course, in 2025, people go, I'm evil, I should keep my wealth and power.
01:06:10.000What they tell you is, it's good that I have all this wealth and power because I'm going to help all these really, really vulnerable children.
01:06:15.000If you really, really want to help vulnerable children, there's so many ways of doing that.
01:06:18.000Most importantly, there's ways of discreetly, privately...
01:06:22.000Quietly getting on with that without taxing middle-income and low-income families who are actually trying to look after their own children and don't want Bill Gates' reach and influence extending into their pockets via the government and into Garvey.
01:06:37.000And as he listed the various projects there, Stephen Colbert, the Trump administration have pulled out of, those of you that watch alternative media will know that there's numerous outrageous USAID stories and that USAID was fundamentally about propaganda.
01:06:51.000And control USAID, invested in various foreign colleges in my country to ensure that particular media perspectives were undertook during the COVID pandemic.
01:07:00.000In fact, what this entire interview is an attempt to do is to reframe for the mainstream a positive perspective and narrative when it comes to all of their previous endeavours that have been undone.
01:07:13.000...under populist nativism because people don't trust big government, they don't trust neoliberalism, they don't trust the Democrats, they don't trust the media, they don't trust big science.
01:07:23.000And in fact, this interview is a further reason to verify that scepticism and even cynicism because of this.
01:07:31.000Why doesn't Stephen Colbert ask, what do you think about Jay Patacharya, the new head of the NIH?
01:07:37.000What do you think about Robert Kennedy generally?
01:07:40.000What do you have to say about these studies that show that vaccine injuries were far higher than we'd first suspected?
01:07:45.000How do you deal with the fact that the inoculation provided by the vaccine was minimal?
01:07:51.000Because there is no attempt to redress even the problems of the pandemic, just an attempt to move forward at a giddying blur, a pace that doesn't allow you to pause and take a breath and to reflect on how badly we were lied to during that pandemic, how the people that stood at the front and centre and told us they knew what they were doing were actually lying, whether that's Fauci or Gates.
01:08:13.000And now we see how this plays out across other stories and other narratives.
01:08:17.000Trust Zelensky, trust NATO, trust the WHO.
01:08:26.000We're the second U.S. Government's the third.
01:08:29.000I don't think that there should be a foundation that has the resources to invest that much money.
01:08:34.000I believe, let me know if you agree with this in the comments and chat, that we shouldn't be centralizing our resources at the level of the state or these private organizations so that ultimately beneficiaries of extraordinary wealth are decided by and appointed by Bill Gates, who I don't really trust on anything.
01:08:50.000And the reason I don't trust him is not like intuition or prejudice.
01:08:54.000It's because I've read about the impact of his policies, ideas, And so I hope to convince the Congress, who will decide the budget in time...
01:09:23.000To stay in Gavi, but right now there's a proposal.
01:09:27.000That they zero out that, which is about $300 million a year.
01:09:32.000And one of the odd things about the president's administration is that even though there are things that are already allocated for things like research, is that the president and the people who work for him have said, we're just not going to do it.
01:09:41.000He signs executive orders and says the money's not going to go there, so it doesn't really matter what Congress does.
01:09:46.000So while what you say is hopeful it may not happen, you're a data-driven guy.
01:09:50.000This claims to be a data-driven group of people.
01:09:53.000A lot of tech bros over there in the government these days.
01:10:23.000I've been out in the field with the people who work for USCID and seen the brilliant work they do and how important that is.
01:10:31.000Unfortunately, there was a weekend where it was decided they were criminals and they were put in the wood chipper.
01:10:39.000And so we lost a lot of capacity there.
01:10:42.000If you genuinely think it's wrong to, over the course of a weekend, determine that people are criminals and put them in a woodchipper, wouldn't you extend the same kind of sanguinity and compassion to people that were reluctant to take the vaccines?
01:10:53.000Instead of mounting a campaign to shame them and condemn them, which was immersive and total, funded and supported by Bill Gates and enacted by Stephen Colbert.
01:11:02.000If the principle is compassion, extend the compassion.
01:11:06.000If it's expedience, just admit there's expedience.
01:11:10.000We are going to use this show to attack people currently in power.
01:11:13.000We recognize that our main resources lie now outside of government in figures like Bill Gates, and we'll do everything we can to prop them up.
01:12:03.000Well, that's actually outside even of the realm of irony.
01:12:07.000Again, if you look at the decisions and influence made by either Bill Gates directly or causes and endeavours that he supported when it comes to COVID and India and agriculture in Africa, what you have to have is a supreme sense of denial to participate in this kind of media endeavour.
01:12:26.000For Stephen Goldberg to say, "Wow, I've got Bill Gates in front of me now, I'm going to just ask Bill Gates some important and significant questions rather than feeding him what has been pre-agreed in pre-production." We've got Bill Gates coming on.
01:12:40.000Here are the questions to ask Bill Gates.
01:12:42.000This is what Bill Gates is here to promote.
01:12:45.000And if you want, you can do a few snarky jokes here or there so you can continue to pretend to yourself that you're doing something of cultural.
01:13:40.000They want control of your perspective, your perception, your ability to apply attention.
01:13:45.000Claiming that Elon Musk has departed reality for Mars.
01:13:50.000Is a reasonable perspective if you're someone that's really diligent about remaining in the perpetual present and living as best you can.
01:13:58.000Like, you know, if you were a Jainist that wears a mask, not to protect you from COVID, but to protect insects from you, then maybe you could say, yeah, I'm against Elon Musk.
01:14:09.000But if you are Bill Gates, you can't condemn Elon Musk just because you, every 20 years, say you're going to give away all of your wealth and then never actually get around to it.
01:14:18.000So I do, you know, I'm looking forward to getting more time with President Trump.
01:15:11.000And more broadly, Bill Gates maintains colonial and imperial power over the American mind, the American economy and systems of government that are meant to work for you, but that ultimately...
01:15:24.000for a plutocratic class, which Bill Gates is a chieftain within.
01:15:29.000In order to have any kind of respect for legacy media, you'd want to see sensible questions asked in an interview like that.
01:15:36.000And the fact that you didn't see any sensible questions asked, merely sort of soft ball scoops.
01:15:49.000I don't know, man, but I would guess, based on some of his friendships, that Bill Gates loves stuff like that.
01:15:55.000What he doesn't love doing is being accountable for his agricultural interventions in Africa.
01:15:59.000India, and the many, many areas that took place during the pandemic, excuse me, pandemic, which he seemed to know was coming, and appears to have profited from significantly.
01:16:08.000This is a man who every couple of decades says, I'm going to give away all my wealth, and then 20 years later, you check out his finances, and he's richer than ever.
01:16:54.000If you are a Christian, you'll be fascinated and excited to see Joe Rogan's new ruminations on the origins of the universe and on Christ specifically.
01:17:02.000If you're not a Christian, you might be wondering, where am I going to draw power, inspiration and resources from in this deteriorating world?
01:17:10.000You might be fascinated to see the various new fractures and fragmentations appearing in the post-Trump era, whether that's in political spaces, there's a Maha civil war, or in media spaces increasingly divided over issues like Israel, Iraq, Iran, war generally.
01:17:26.000So, where is it that we're going to look for redemption, peace, and salvation?
01:17:30.000I would say, where we've always looked, to God, not to man.
01:18:26.000And we are in a process of infinite regress, where ultimately we're going to end up in single-person cubicles quarrelling with our own minds, uncertain as to what to believe in and indeed what to do.
01:18:36.000Joe Rogan's show, in a sense, has created a different category of conversation.
01:18:41.000Blue-collar philosophy, working-class poetry, all things which are admirable.
01:18:48.000What's fascinating about this conversation is kind of stoner chit-chat about the impossibility of an expanding universe expanding into nothingness unless you embrace the paradox of not knowing anything and yet being supremely endowed that all of reality could be taking place within our consciousness and yet we're infinitesimally small and meaningless unless you can somehow hold together those peculiar contradictions which I frankly can't.
01:19:10.000It seems that where we're moving now increasingly where Joe Rogan appears to be moving is into a territory In which it's acknowledged that we need supreme authority.
01:19:19.000And then there's the concept that it's actually finite.
01:19:39.000Is that a thing that we think, that like, because we were born and we die, that we have these biological limitations that we attach to the universe itself?
01:20:35.000And it's funny because people would be incredulous about the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but yet they're convinced that the entire universe was smaller than the head of a pen, and for no reason than anybody's adequately explained to me.
01:21:01.000Jesus does make more sense as soon as you embrace the impossibility of a thorough understanding because of the limitations we experience and also the subjective nightmare of being in control of your own life and the inevitability of failure within those restrictions and limits.
01:21:20.000This conversation takes place as a new pope is enthroned, canonised, elected.
01:21:26.000The challenge is, of course, that people use divine authority to bolster and embolden human authority.
01:21:32.000That's when we start getting into serious trouble.
01:21:34.000We have a new pope in the Vatican, and here is some video of him speaking on the subject of immigration.
01:21:41.000Both the first reading and the Gospel make very clear a message which Pope Francis has been hammering home time and again since his very first trip as Pope when he went to This little community, an island in southern Italy, the town of Lampedusa, where all these immigrants continue to come.
01:22:04.000It's a huge problem, and it's a problem worldwide, not only in this country.
01:22:09.000There's got to be a way both to solve the problem, but also to treat people with respect.
01:22:16.000Every one of us, whether we were born in the United States of America or on the North Pole, We all are given that gift of being created, the image and likeness of God.
01:22:30.000And the day we forget that is the day we forget who we are.
01:22:36.000We forget who Christ has called us to be.
01:22:40.000I suppose that's the aspect of spirituality that I'm most drawn to, the idea that we can transcend our limitations as human beings and share in the limitless grace and love of Christ.
01:22:53.000Whether it's homelessness in California or mass migration, we can always find within ourselves more love, more compassion, more grace.
01:23:04.000And however much compassion, kindness or grace we may think we're affording others is nothing compared to what we've been given.
01:23:11.000And we live in a time where people are at war.
01:23:14.000What we're experiencing now is frequently referred to as a culture war.
01:23:18.000And what a culture war is, if you ask me, Is an attempt to control a narrative.
01:23:22.000And an attempt to control a narrative means manipulate attention, consciousness, perception and understanding.
01:23:28.000And whether you orient or skew towards the left or the right or individualism or collectivism, socialism, free market capitalism.
01:23:39.000In the end, you might find, like Joe Rogan and his guests there, that there's a limit to how much we can understand the best minds in science using the finest instruments that can be contrived.
01:23:48.000Buttress against Terence McKenna is brilliantly described.
01:23:51.000The Big Bang Theory asks, give us one free miracle and we'll explain the rest.
01:23:57.000Or how many questions are left unanswered when it comes to the mysteries of our hearts and souls and the despair that many of us frequently feel, our longing for comfort.
01:24:07.000Our understanding that we need to be redeemed.
01:24:10.000None of these questions can be answered through tribalism.
01:24:13.000They can only be answered through a deep, deep surrender to powerful spiritual forces.
01:24:18.000And I feel like we are reaching a singularity, not a singularity where technology is able to answer all of our problems, but precisely the opposite.
01:24:27.000We have begun to recognize the limits of technology.
01:24:31.000Tools in the hands of man can take us only so far, and we need salvation.