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00:00:01.000Over the month of September I'm doing a handful of live shows that are a combination of spirituality, breathwork, individual awakening, community building and challenging authority.
00:00:11.000How do you bring down the system while bringing up children?
00:00:15.000Go and sleep! Go and f***ing sleep! Sleep while I have inventive all gutted now!
00:00:20.000How do you try to bring down Bear Grylls while you're on Running Wild with Bear Grylls?
00:00:24.000And Bear Grylls is much better at that stuff than you.
00:00:28.000How do we find new ways of challenging authority while trying to live normal lives?
00:00:33.000So I'll be doing stand-up, breathwork, meditation, as well as conducting polls and votes because I believe democracy works.
00:00:40.000Are you happy with your current government?
00:01:08.000Thanks for joining me on our mutual voyage to truth and freedom.
00:01:12.000Together, we can create new systems, new communities.
00:01:16.000We can analyse these extraordinary times together, independently.
00:01:21.000Those of you watching us from the United States of America, take this opportunity to reflect honorably with you on the lives of those lost on September the 11th in particular as someone who behaved so astonishingly at the time because that's what I was a crazy young man back then and some of you'll be aware of my mad behavior on MTV way back in those days and now I'm able to share with you in acknowledging the horror of those events and actually
00:01:47.000Look at them from a new perspective, how it changed history, how it altered our perception of the world, how it was utilised, how the Patriot Act was mobilised, how the war in Iraq came about as a result of those tragic events.
00:02:02.000We're looking also today at the new revelations that Musk prevented a Ukraine attack on Russia last year because of his, what's it called, Skylink, Skynet?
00:03:42.000Yeah, you know, man, we're operating in a beautiful space.
00:03:47.000I'm sure you'll agree that working in this independent media space is free from consequences.
00:03:53.000It's a giddy, buccaneering affair, and you never get the sense that the forces of evil are co-aligning and coalescing to, for example, shut down your GoFundMe.
00:04:02.000Can you tell us a little bit about that story, mate?
00:04:05.000Yeah, well, it's a giddy buccaneering affair for independent swashbucklers like ourselves and our ship was targeted by...
00:04:16.000Apparently national security state pirates.
00:04:19.000We have no idea who they actually are because they hide behind the veneer of these supposedly private Silicon Valley based companies like GoFundMe.
00:04:31.000As you said, you were saying before in the run up to this interview, the FBI has honeycombed its places like Facebook or Meta and Twitter with its own operatives.
00:04:42.000You even have former CIA people there.
00:04:44.000But these crowdfunding sites do the same thing, and it's poorly understood.
00:04:51.000So I'll just tell you what happened to us, and I think your audience will better understand
00:04:57.000how dangerous it is for them to work with, to try to raise money for anything remotely political
00:05:04.000when you have the national security state operating behind the scenes,
00:05:08.000telling them that they may have to sanction people if their political views go against their own objectives.
00:05:15.000So we launched a crowd funder for three of our contributors.
00:05:19.000You've had one of them on named Kit Clarenberg.
00:05:21.000Three of our most dedicated contributors to provide them with long-term positions.
00:05:27.000And so, for our audience, it was a chance to just support independent media that they like.
00:06:32.000And eventually, we had to force GoFundMe to refund all the money to everyone and move to a different fundraising site called SpotFund, which has been much more trustworthy and responsive.
00:06:45.000We were able to get their chief technology officer on the line who promised us that they would transfer the money immediately, and they've done so.
00:06:52.000But with GoFundMe, It's obvious that they're working hand-in-glove with the national security state and applying financial sanctions on outlets and causes that threaten the imperatives of the powers that be.
00:07:05.000And I'll point directly to the Canadian truckers, the Freedom Convoy.
00:07:10.000Back in early 2022, GoFundMe froze their $10 million that they had raised, $10 million US dollars they'd raised, and then announced that they were transferring it to, quote-unquote, established charities.
00:07:24.000So they were stealing the money from donors to the Canadian truckers protesting Justin Trudeau and the Liberal government's vaccine mandates and the lockdowns, and just giving it to charities of their choosing.
00:07:37.000And they eventually had to relent because this was a violation of U.S.
00:07:48.000Because that liberal government of Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland had declared emergency law in Canada, had told GoFundMe to do that, and they were telling the banks to basically Take people's money who are donating to this because the protest was threatening their policy.
00:08:05.000And so that's what we think happened with us.
00:08:07.000And we weren't going to let them reroute the money somewhere else.
00:08:12.000And the crazy thing is now they're telling journalists like our friend Matt Taibbi, who actually called them at GoFundMe, that this was a totally normal procedure and that we voluntarily shut it down as though we were just going to sit there and allow them to continue this complete Banking fraud forever.
00:08:36.000Like Lee's story, we're talking about the relationship between Elon Musk and the American government, and how Elon Musk is able to intervene in the military imperatives of, in this case, the Ukraine.
00:08:50.000I know your views on that war have been pretty well and widely expressed.
00:08:56.000Here we have a story where, once again, the relationship between big tech and the government becomes Quite curious.
00:09:03.000It's interesting and exciting when there's an obvious adversarial component, such as in our last story.
00:09:09.000But when you see this kind of cohesion, this kind of collaboration, like you cite with the Canadian trucker story, and obviously now you've been a personal, oh my gosh, should we say victim of it?
00:09:21.000It makes you realise that ultimately what we're sliding towards We are more and more normalised, centralised, authoritarian models, centralised currency, ability to close down people.
00:09:34.000We're hearing more and more stories about the intervention in people's financial affairs.
00:09:39.000It's something that's becoming more prevalent and I'm not surprised that you're a prominent and high profile organisation to be subject to that kind of obvious corruption. What does it make you feel about the
00:09:54.000future of the grey zone and your ability to report independently, for example, on the ongoing
00:10:41.000He did a book called The New Normal Reich, which is just a send-up of the Covidian regime that prevailed in Germany, across Europe, and across the West.
00:10:50.000His book cover features a play on William Shire's The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich.
00:10:56.000It features a swastika embedded within a mask.
00:11:01.000And for that book cover, Germany, the German court has found him guilty of glorifying a national socialist organization and sentenced him to 60 days in prison or $4,000 fine.
00:11:13.000And the way, I mean, he's facing kind of a jackboot in the face, the hard censorship.
00:11:17.000Germany doesn't really have freedom of speech, although it pretends to be a liberal democracy.
00:11:23.000But what we're facing in the US, which has a First Amendment,
00:11:26.000is kind of the national security state, which we never elected,
00:11:30.000bunch of faceless individuals who are able to meddle in elections across the world,
00:11:35.000including in our own, meddle in politics, is this kind of soft totalitarian model.
00:11:43.000Sheldon Wolin, the late sociologist, called it inverted totalitarianism,
00:11:47.000where liberal democracy is used as cover for a more authoritarian project.
00:11:52.000And you can get quietly shadow banned from behind the scenes by some operative in an air-conditioned office and disappeared or suppressed or censored without having any recourse or due process because it's being done ostensibly through a private corporation, which just is saying, hey, we're just enforcing our terms of service.
00:12:14.000And so that's an insidious, it's dangerous, it's deeply anti-democratic.
00:12:20.000And the public, whether it's us or anyone else who's been censored financially, like our friends at Mint Press News or Consortium News, they never know who actually pulled the trigger and censored them.
00:13:08.000And it was solely on the basis of their political views that they were disrupting the official narrative that Ukraine was just fighting this glorious war for democracy.
00:13:16.000And Twitter, this is in the pre-Elon regime, actually refused because it was too extreme for them to just ban Americans and Canadians on the basis of foreign government telling them to do so.
00:13:47.000And so we're existing in this inverted totalitarian model behind the guise of liberal democracy, where most of the public still believes that they have due process and free speech.
00:14:00.000They don't, as long as we're relying on these private companies managed by the national security state as our digital commons, as our kind of speaker's corner.
00:14:08.000God, man, there's so many points I want to pick up on there.
00:14:11.000There were sort of Orwellian images, of course, with the boot on the face of the man who used that image in a mask in a plainly satirical way.
00:14:18.000the sort of when satire and comedy gets challenged to that degree. You know, bloody hell, Germany,
00:14:23.000they should be encouraging. Robin Williams' famous line, why are Germans so unfunny?
00:14:30.000And he said, because you killed all the funny people. But I'm also minded of Huxley,
00:14:36.000like being the sort of sanitized version of tyranny, this inverted tyranny that you describe,
00:14:43.000as well as the kind of Kafka-esque idea, which I'm sure, I guess, was more of a critique of
00:14:49.000Stasi-style, Soviet-style, communist oppression, bureaucracies that were masked and oddly
00:14:58.000diaphanous and impossible to locate. This now seems to have migrated to our countries, the
00:15:06.000United States, the UK, as well as when you were talking about this inverted tyranny, I'm sort of
00:15:12.000minded of a moment in my conversation with Sam Harris last week.
00:15:15.000It was a point that the great philosopher and friend of the show, actually, Brad Evans first made, I believe, that we've been sort of trained to regard jihadist violence or certain type of violence as extreme.
00:15:28.000And of course, you know, I'm not sort of obviously endorsing any type of violence, but he made the point that he imagined jihadists to be in ecstatic states and sort of That, for him, made the violence all the more nefarious.
00:15:41.000but the kind of violence that's carried out, for example, under Obama,
00:15:45.000who we made a really good item about earlier today, are these sort of sanitary, as you say,
00:15:50.000air-conditioned rooms, where either your funds are shut down
00:15:53.000or a wedding adjacent to a potential terror suspect is bombed, where progress, technology,
00:16:00.000rationalism themselves are used to mobilize a type of tyranny that, to misquote Wilde,
00:16:06.000dare not speak its name, tells us that it's liberal and democratic
00:16:10.000all the while gently closing in on our freedom.
00:16:14.000And in one more Orwellian tag, Max, what do you feel about the war, good, peace,
00:16:20.000bad NATO members' concerns that any opposition to a proxy war
00:16:27.000might drive Ukraine to pursue, oh no, peace talks with Putin?
00:16:32.000Well, there are a number of obstacles to peace talks because it's obvious now that Tony Blink in the US.
00:16:44.000Secretary of State, was recently in Kiev for a more extended period than usual to probably put the idea of negotiations on the table.
00:16:55.000And this is because of the colossal failure of the Ukrainian counteroffensive, which the U.S.
00:17:03.000They failed to capture any real territory.
00:17:05.000They were supposed to cut off the land bridge between Russia and Crimea.
00:17:09.000It's not going to happen, and soon there's going to be rain in the eastern regions, the eastern plains of the Donbass region, and it's going to be impossible to get armor through there.
00:17:25.000Number one, why should Russia negotiate at this point when the West has just completely cut off the possibility of negotiations and sabotaged negotiations at every turn leading to this proxy war?
00:17:41.000cancelled negotiations between Zelensky and the Kremlin and said, keep fighting.
00:17:47.000And they sabotaged the Minsk Accords before that, so why trust the West?
00:17:51.000And why negotiate when you could actually start capturing more and more territory, given this terrible state of Ukraine's military, and the hundreds of thousands of casualties they've suffered?
00:18:03.000They don't have much left, apparently.
00:18:06.000Then there's the factor of Tony Blinken himself.
00:18:10.000This guy has major skin in the game when it comes to continuing this war.
00:18:14.000He founded a firm called West Exec Advisors, which finesses contracts for the arms industry and big tech through the Pentagon and the State Department.
00:18:25.000Him and his former colleagues from the Obama administration got together and started this firm to basically profit off their connections With the major winners of the Ukraine proxy war, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Palantir, all the Beltway bandits as we call them here in Washington.
00:18:43.000And so if Tony Blinken leaves government, he could make a lot of money off of this war as long as it's still continuing.
00:18:51.000And that could be either through a kind of frozen conflict where Ukraine is transformed into what Zelensky has called a big Israel, and it's just constantly at war with Russia and its entire society is securitized and mobilized.
00:19:04.000The tech industry will love that as well, because everyone's going to be under surveillance, you know, drones and cameras everywhere.
00:19:12.000And so, you know, you have all these people who, why would they want to end this conflict?
00:19:20.000And then finally, you have the ideological investment, just the hatred of Russia that prevails, particularly among the Democratic Party foreign policy elite, but also within the Republican Party.
00:19:34.000The idea that we just can't lose this war and that this is about democracy.
00:19:39.000So there are all these obstacles to negotiations, but obviously the war isn't going.
00:19:44.000There's no progress for Ukraine in this war.
00:19:47.000They should have negotiated over a year ago, but they've been drunk off of these delusional fantasies spun out of Washington that they can somehow win when victory is never even defined.
00:19:57.000Oh man, those are the kind of home truths that you do not want being funded under any circumstances.
00:20:05.000do avoid going to spot.fund forward slash defend the gray zone again and donate in to
00:20:13.000max blumenthal's incredible endeavors there at the gray zone we'll post the link in the description
00:20:18.000now they've got to do it all over again precisely because the news they convey is a threat to
00:20:24.000mainstream narratives and look what happens astonishing astonishing the price you pay for
00:20:29.000telling the truth max that's exceptional Thank you so much for that.
00:20:34.000We're always grateful to spend some time with you.
00:21:12.000It's going to kick Klarenberg, who you've interviewed before, and his bombshell expose on 9-11.
00:21:18.000It is 9-11 today on how the CIA actually recruited two of the hijackers, completely factual report based on public court documents, recruited two of the hijackers and then refused to tell the FBI about their plot as it developed.
00:21:33.000He was interrogated about that article.
00:21:36.000By British counter-terror police when he arrived to his home country in London.
00:21:41.000So, I mean, these are the people that deserve to be supported.
00:21:44.000These are the journalists that deserve to be supported, and that's who our fundraiser is for, to provide them with long-term support.