Stay Free - Russel Brand - GOP Blocks Push to Unseal FULL Epstein Files - SF615

00:00:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand and Russell Conspiracy Theorist trying to bring real journalism to the American people.

00:00:17.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:18.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:21.000 You might be watching this on YouTube or X. Make your way over to Rumble and if you don't have Rumble Premium yet, get Rumble Premium now.

00:00:28.000 We're going to be talking, of course, about the list that never was, something that we could have anticipated.

00:00:35.000 In fact, for us, well, I mean, really, from our all history, it's been pretty clear that ultimately there are layers of power that have to remain obfuscated.

00:00:45.000 That's what I think.

00:00:45.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

00:00:47.000 Will we ever know the truth?

00:00:48.000 And are you surprised by some of the people who seem invested in blocking it?

00:00:52.000 Hearing none, the question's on the amendment.

00:00:54.000 All those in favor signify by saying aye.

00:00:56.000 Aye.

00:00:57.000 Those opposed say no.

00:00:58.000 No.

00:00:59.000 In the opinion of the chair, the no's have it.

00:01:01.000 The amendment so agree.

00:01:02.000 Mr. Chair, I'm kind of shocked by that.

00:01:04.000 I will ask for a roll call.

00:01:06.000 The clerk will call the roll.

00:01:08.000 Mrs. Fitchbach.

00:01:09.000 Mrs. Fitchbach, no, Mr. Norman.

00:01:11.000 Mr. Norman, aye, Mr. Roy.

00:01:13.000 Mrs. Houchin.

00:01:14.000 Mrs. Houchin, no, Mr. Langworthy.

00:01:16.000 Mr. Langworthy, no, Mr. Scott.

00:01:18.000 Mr. Scott, no, Mr. Griffith.

00:01:20.000 Mr. Griffith, no, Mr. Jack.

00:01:22.000 No.

00:01:22.000 Mr. Jack, no, Mr. McGovern.

00:01:24.000 Aye.

00:01:24.000 Mr. McGovern, aye, Ms. Scantlin.

00:01:26.000 Ms. Scantlin, aye, Mr. Nagoose.

00:01:28.000 Yes.

00:01:29.000 Mr. Nagoos, aye.

00:01:30.000 Ms. Ledger Fernandez?

00:01:31.000 Ms. Ledger Fernandez?

00:01:31.000 Aye.

00:01:32.000 Aye.

00:01:33.000 Madam Chair? 0.99

00:01:34.000 Madam Chair, no. 1.00

00:01:34.000 No. 1.00

00:01:38.000 The clerk will report the total.

00:01:40.000 Five ye's, seven nays. 0.98

00:01:43.000 The no's have it. 0.96

00:01:44.000 The amendment is not agreed to.

00:01:46.000 And I think most of us believe what's appropriate will be released when it is time for the president to release it.

00:01:56.000 Some of those people look pretty embarrassed that they were on the nay rather than the A side of the aisle right there.

00:02:04.000 Charlie Kirk's not going to be talking about it anymore.

00:02:07.000 Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being.

00:02:10.000 I'm going to trust my friends in the administration.

00:02:12.000 I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it.

00:02:16.000 Balls in their hands. 0.94

00:02:17.000 I've said plenty this last weekend.

00:02:19.000 So if you guys want to see my commentary on it, that's fine.

00:02:22.000 Prince Andrew is free now to travel abroad.

00:02:27.000 And I suppose into this environment, this environment of cynicism, you might call it skepticism or at least acknowledgement and recognition that there are ulterior powers.

00:02:36.000 As Tulsi Gabbard said at Turning Point, the deep state is real and seems to have power that goes beyond the reach of elected officials.

00:02:45.000 Isn't that surprising?

00:02:46.000 Andrew Short says that the real America first candidates are now surprising figures of the left.

00:02:53.000 Let me know what you think about this.

00:02:56.000 The only party right now that to me seems America first is the Democrat Socialist Party.

00:03:04.000 Bernie is America first.

00:03:07.000 Mamdani and all his ideas that he will not be able to execute, and I frankly think many of them are not good ideas.

00:03:13.000 But he is no doubt New York first.

00:03:16.000 The policies seem to want to help people here.

00:03:19.000 That's what I care about.

00:03:20.000 If MAGA wants to take this America first thing back, they got to start looking out for America.

00:03:24.000 It doesn't seem like they're doing it.

00:03:25.000 Lying to Americans is not America First.

00:03:27.000 There is one lie, which is Epstein did not have a blackmail ring on all these very influential people.

00:03:34.000 And by saying that that didn't happen, you have to tell a lot of other little lies.

00:03:38.000 Every one of them just pulls a little piece of thread away from the fact.

00:03:41.000 And we're starting to see right through it now, and it's just embarrassing.

00:03:44.000 Are we then a pivotal and radical moment in American politics and American power?

00:03:52.000 Certainly media has shifted the dynamics of American politics almost beyond recognition.

00:03:58.000 Here, Gavin Newsom says that Joe Rogan personally asked him via text message to reveal how COVID mandates for children ended up being an official policy.

00:04:11.000 And this is the very kind of dynamic that would have been unthinkable a matter of years, maybe even a matter of months ago.

00:04:17.000 And with Andrew Schultz saying that the left are the real America First Party, are we going through yet another significant and unanticipated transition in American politics and public life?

00:04:29.000 Let's have a look at this conversation about Joe Rogan with Gavin Newsom.

00:04:32.000 While I'm tended to by Nurse Nikki, yeah, come over here because there's something going very, very wrong with me.

00:04:39.000 I don't know if there's too much.

00:04:41.000 Yes, I need serious and urgent and immediate adjustments.

00:04:45.000 Do you think it's coming through too quickly or too slowly?

00:04:49.000 How do you feel?

00:04:50.000 I feel vulnerable.

00:04:51.000 Very vulnerable.

00:04:52.000 Let's have a look at Gavin Newsom to talk about Joe Rogan.

00:04:54.000 So this is from Joe Rogan.

00:04:55.000 Oh, God.

00:04:56.000 This is a tough one.

00:04:57.000 He won't have me on the show, by the way.

00:04:59.000 Who will be held accountable for mandating COVID-19 vaccines for children which were unnecessary and ineffective?

00:05:06.000 And who will take responsibility for the unprecedented increases in myocarditis and cancer cases among them?

00:05:14.000 Second to that, do you feel any remorse for that draconian decision that was obviously heavily influenced by the pharmaceutical company's desire for maximum profit?

00:05:25.000 Yeah, I've signed some of the most progressive laws against big pharma in the country.

00:05:30.000 So I have receipts on that.

00:05:32.000 So no one should suggest that it was about doing the bidding of big pharma, quite the contrary.

00:05:37.000 California, like many states, Red States included, Florida included, moved forward early in the pandemic, working with the Trump administration and the advisors from the Trump administration to impose dirt and strategies to mitigate the impacts of this novel disease, coronavirus.

00:05:56.000 What's interesting about this process is none of us have really reviewed in an objective way.

00:06:01.000 It's all through the lens of politics, what we did right and what we did wrong.

00:06:06.000 And so I'll answer that question by telling you what I've just tasked.

00:06:10.000 I've asked our team to put together an objective review of everything we did right, everything we did wrong.

00:06:19.000 We're interviewing people that vehemently disagree with us, that oppose the mask mandates, that oppose the stay-at-home orders, people that are international experts.

00:06:29.000 We're stress testing Our entire process could have, shoulda, would have.

00:06:33.000 Comparing and contrasting to what other states did.

00:06:36.000 I mean, Florida shut down their bars and restaurants before California, before California.

00:06:42.000 The question was: when did we start to unwind some of those restrictions?

00:06:46.000 California was more restrictive, and we were certainly aggressive at scale.

00:06:51.000 As it relates to vaccines, vaccines save lives.

00:06:54.000 But Joe asked a very different question about children, and I respect that.

00:06:58.000 And that was where there was a lot of feedback with a lot of experts that I had as advisors.

00:07:04.000 By the way, I used advisors from two other states.

00:07:07.000 We did this West Coast Alliance to review not just what was coming from the federal government, but to have a prism and lens on the recommendations coming from the CDC through our own independent advisors.

00:07:19.000 And I took their advice, not as a doctor, but as a governor.

00:07:22.000 So with humility, seriously, humility and grace, I've asked them to have that report done.

00:07:28.000 It's going to be done next month.

00:07:30.000 And it'll be the only state that I know of that is putting out a truly objective review of what went right and what went wrong. 0.96

00:07:38.000 And I know everyone's a goddamn genius now in hindsight. 0.57

00:07:41.000 But at the time, none of us knew what we were up against, including the President of the United States, who I worked very closely with. 0.98

00:07:48.000 There wasn't a Democratic governor in America that worked closer during the pandemic than I did with Donald Trump.

00:07:56.000 Gavin Newsom's getting ahead of it, isn't he?

00:07:57.000 Gavin Newsom's positioning himself in new media in a way that indicates that he sees himself as the next leader of that party.

00:08:06.000 And with Andrew Schultz saying that the left are providing the real candidates for America first politics, what do you think about this conversation?

00:08:15.000 Or do you think that's kind of an outrageous claim by dear Andrew Schultz, who I enjoy and like a great deal?

00:08:21.000 Certainly, I think it's worth being radical in our willingness to look at political views that go beyond bipartisanship and tribalism.

00:08:30.000 Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.

00:08:32.000 Because look at this.

00:08:33.000 Everyone's sort of kind of focused on Tucker Carlson's remarks about the Epstein Files.

00:08:37.000 And of course, the Epstein Files is, as I say, the mosaic tile that went unpicked, reveals archaeological depths previously unvisited that might show you a deep labyrinth of subterranean corruption.

00:08:49.000 That's why it's important.

00:08:50.000 That's why people keep going on about it.

00:08:52.000 But when Tucker Carlson talks at a turning point about young people not being able to afford homes, I suppose that is a glimpse at an economic future that, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, is pretty undesirable and an indication that politics has taken a turn that where we need to make some pretty radical revisions.

00:09:14.000 Let's have a look at Tucker Carlson there at turning point and we'll talk about that together in a minute.

00:09:18.000 Biggest house in Europe, like, what is that?

00:09:20.000 Just, you know, of course I do have an attendant nurse at all times now because I'm pretty vulnerable.

00:09:26.000 Later on in the show, we're going to be talking about the UK justice system and their plan to get rid of jury trials.

00:09:31.000 Let me know you think about that in the comments and chat and if you think that's part of a broader plan to implement global imperialist systems everywhere so that power can be consolidated and concentrated in as fewer hands as possible.

00:09:44.000 Like, what is that?

00:09:44.000 Biggest house in New York?

00:09:46.000 Like, at some point, the basic economics really matter.

00:09:50.000 And they matter because not that it's bad that rich people are getting richer, it's bad that everyone else is getting poorer.

00:09:57.000 And it's especially bad that young people can't afford homes.

00:10:01.000 Let me just put a very precise point on this.

00:10:04.000 If you want a measure of how your economy is doing, I personally favor eliminating GDP as a measure.

00:10:12.000 I don't even know what that is.

00:10:13.000 It's clearly not relevant.

00:10:14.000 They tell me Japan has a stagnant GDP.

00:10:17.000 Have you been to Tokyo?

00:10:18.000 It's the single most radicalizing experience you'll ever have because it's just so nice.

00:10:23.000 You lost the war?

00:10:24.000 Can we lose a war and wind up like this?

00:10:24.000 Really?

00:10:27.000 GDP.

00:10:28.000 No.

00:10:28.000 I don't know what even that is.

00:10:30.000 The total economic activity.

00:10:32.000 Oh, no, no.

00:10:32.000 My measure is really simple.

00:10:33.000 I've got a bunch of kids.

00:10:35.000 Can they afford houses with full-time jobs at like 27, 28?

00:10:39.000 And the answer is no way.

00:10:41.000 And the answer is that 35-year-olds with really good jobs can't afford a house unless they stretch and go deep into debt.

00:10:49.000 And I just think that's a total disaster.

00:10:50.000 That's a complete disaster.

00:10:52.000 Why?

00:10:53.000 Two reasons.

00:10:54.000 One, if people don't own things, they don't feel ownership of the country they're in.

00:11:00.000 And the country gets super volatile because people feel like they've got nothing to lose.

00:11:04.000 When you have a lawn, trust me, you're thinking long-term.

00:11:08.000 Second, it's really hard to have a family without a house.

00:11:12.000 It is.

00:11:12.000 It's like super fun to live in an apartment if, you know, there's like a bar downstairs, you're in a cool neighborhood.

00:11:17.000 I'm in East Village.

00:11:18.000 It's so cool.

00:11:19.000 Try to have three kids.

00:11:20.000 You're not going to have three kids there.

00:11:21.000 You can't.

00:11:22.000 Nobody wants to raise their kids in that neighborhood. 0.94

00:11:24.000 Nobody wants to raise their kids in an apartment.

00:11:25.000 People do it because they have to.

00:11:27.000 Nobody wants to.

00:11:28.000 People want a little house, not some McMansion, just a little normal house.

00:11:32.000 That is the actual American dream.

00:11:35.000 And that is what is totally unattainable for young people.

00:11:40.000 And so the only young people in general that you will ever meet who have houses are young people whose parents help them.

00:11:47.000 And God bless their parents.

00:11:48.000 That's a perfectly great thing to do for your kids.

00:11:50.000 But most people's parents can't afford to do that because they're already in debt from their pointless college degree.

00:11:57.000 Hey, do you see, like, when you watch this, how both sides of the political argument benefit from the cultural war and the distraction that it provides?

00:12:04.000 And in a way, whilst I would not want to yield to the idea that economics and materialism are what decides the quality of your life, if you can't get a house or place to live, it's going to be difficult to feel happy and satisfied and content.

00:12:21.000 And maybe even as Tucker Carlson suggests, connected to your nation and your national identity.

00:12:26.000 Do you think this broadening of the conversation beyond what we would normally see as the accepted conditions of political debate is part of the rise in independent media?

00:12:37.000 Here is a conservative social commentator, albeit a unique and very gifted one, at a Republican event pointing out that actually neither the Republican Party or the Democrat Party are providing a cohesive or even sensible vision for the future of their country.

00:12:59.000 And that if you go to a corporate city like Tokyo, you're being offered a more favourable alternative and that even GDP, the very metrics by which we measure success are becoming redundant and abstract.

00:13:13.000 Do you think that the conversation pivoting in this way?

00:13:16.000 And as I said to you before about Tucker Carlson, you'll get commentators from the left citing stuff he's saying about Israeli influence on American politics.

00:13:23.000 You'll get people from the libertarian right probably enjoying and highlighting things he's saying here about economics and home ownership.

00:13:32.000 Do you think that in a way the categories of left and right are changing?

00:13:37.000 And in a way, isn't it obvious that they would?

00:13:39.000 Because those categories have come from industrial political positions.

00:13:45.000 Socialism and capitalism are based on industrialism.

00:13:49.000 And we might be in a, I don't say post-industrial, because that doesn't seem quite right because we still have industry and we're still making stuff.

00:13:54.000 But we're not at the point where most people feel we're in the ascendancy when it comes to materialism.

00:13:59.000 We're in decline.

00:14:00.000 People don't think they're going to be wealthier than their parents.

00:14:03.000 People don't think that their problems are going to be solved by owning stuff at scale.

00:14:07.000 In fact, there's a kind of modesty in what Tucker Carlson suggested there.

00:14:11.000 To me, sounded more like a kind of British socialist political figure, you know, like own a little house, have free kids.

00:14:18.000 I don't know, man.

00:14:19.000 I think what we're being offered politically and socially has shifted so much and it's become so bewildering.

00:14:25.000 We're invited to believe so many things.

00:14:27.000 Like one minute, it's post your pronouns in the bio and take the shot and take the vaccine and defund the police.

00:14:34.000 And the next minute, all those things are being kind of scribbled out and turned over and deleted and whited out.

00:14:42.000 You know, Gavin Newsom's cropping up and Sean Ryan to tell you how anti-big farmer he is.

00:14:46.000 But I kind of remember that guy getting paddleboarders arrested during the pandemic, don't you?

00:14:50.000 Who are you going to trust in this bewildering climate?

00:14:52.000 Are you going to trust that Gavin Newsom is saying that because he means it and has always meant it and is indeed an anti-establishment, anti-corporate, anti-big farmer figure?

00:15:01.000 Or is he just positioning himself for political ascendancy?

00:15:04.000 Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.

00:15:07.000 And increasingly, don't you think there's no real requirement for these kind of nationwide political heroes?

00:15:13.000 Aren't we sort of ready for a return to a kind of localism?

00:15:16.000 Isn't the only way to achieve what Tucker Carlson's aspiring to or lamenting the loss of, a kind of instantiation of a new set of rules and systems?

00:15:29.000 I.e., do you think that the current systems and institutions of American power or global power can deliver what Tucker Carlson is talking about?

00:15:36.000 It can't, can it?

00:15:37.000 Because it's regulating and measuring itself using what he regards as obsolete methods like GDP.

00:15:44.000 So that is a national emergency.

00:15:46.000 And I know that there are certain cable channels who are spending all this time talking about, oh, they're about to elect a socialist in New York City, which obviously I'm opposed to it.

00:15:53.000 He's not even a real socialist.

00:15:54.000 He's like a trainee vax, you know, rich kid liberal guy.

00:15:58.000 Mom Donnie. 0.78

00:16:00.000 He's a fake leftist, but whatever.

00:16:03.000 Why do you think that's happening?

00:16:05.000 One of the reasons it's happening is because normal people with normal jobs no longer believe they can win in this system and that all the money is going to the worst people.

00:16:17.000 And no one even stops to ask what the hell is going on.

00:16:21.000 How did Bill Ackman get so rich?

00:16:23.000 I mean, he went on CNBC and like talked down Herbalife.

00:16:28.000 You know, bet against companies by driving down their stock prices.

00:16:31.000 I'm not accusing him here because he's sue me if I do.

00:16:31.000 That's what he's been accused of.

00:16:34.000 I'm just suggesting others believe that might have happened.

00:16:38.000 He's already threatened to sue me for saying that.

00:16:40.000 But there are plenty of people who do do that.

00:16:43.000 And I'm not saying even that it should be illegal.

00:16:45.000 What I'm saying is that our leadership class should say something about it and should assign a moral value to it.

00:16:52.000 And if you're getting rich by loaning money to people at incredibly high interest rates, that's something you're going to have to talk to God about.

00:17:00.000 That is not good.

00:17:02.000 That is not virtuous.

00:17:03.000 That's disgusting.

00:17:05.000 And the fact that nobody feels free to say that, nobody feels like you can just say like 30% on a credit card?

00:17:14.000 Why is anybody paying your credit card bill?

00:17:15.000 I said to somebody recently, I feel like I'm very moderate and sensible and...

00:17:24.000 Usury!

00:17:26.000 Interesting heckle there because usury is forbidden throughout the Abrahamic faiths and perhaps wisely so. 0.89

00:17:33.000 In a way, what Tucker Carlson is highlighting is the kind of decay of our ordinary fealties to political systems and parties that just a short while ago, we would have presumed were immutable.

00:17:48.000 You can't just advocate endlessly for the Republican Party or the Democrat Party based on what you think those parties' values are because those values change all the time.

00:17:57.000 Indeed, someone suggested recently in the wake of this extraordinary post-Epstein-list denial period that the Democrats might become an anti-war party if Trump and Republicans and MAGA are now going to continue to fund Ukraine's unwinnable fight against Russia,

00:18:15.000 if we're going to still see increasing conflict in the Middle East, if the United Kingdom are preparing for war against Russia, which would of course be an unwinnable war from a British perspective, and I say that as a somewhat patriotic Englishman, then maybe, maybe the Democrats could repo as the anti-war party of the United States and maybe garner the attention and affection of the world.

00:18:37.000 And maybe Gavin Newsom could be swept into power.

00:18:39.000 Could he ever be president?

00:18:40.000 Let me know in the comments and chat.

00:18:42.000 Maybe Andy Andrew Schultz is right.

00:18:44.000 Maybe Mamdani and Bernie Sanders and AOC and these socialist radicals are the future of a peaceful world.

00:18:52.000 Well, and I think there are a lot of voters that instinctively cringe at this idea because they do have those memories, right?

00:18:59.000 And I've interviewed Congressman RoCanna recently, who's been advocating for the Democratic Party to be the anti-war party.

00:19:09.000 He said that the party has become too hawkish, in his opinion.

00:19:13.000 Is this an opportunity for Democrats to move more in that direction as you're hearing from Americans that they don't want us?

00:19:21.000 I mean, one of the reasons so much of the president's base is frustrated is because they voted for him because they felt that he was the anti-war president, that he made promises That we would not be entangled in foreign conflicts.

00:19:35.000 Is this an opportunity for Democrats?

00:19:37.000 Might you be missing that opportunity if you don't sort of look at that messaging as a path for the party?

00:19:44.000 No.

00:19:45.000 And I think Rocana is wrong.

00:19:47.000 Okay.

00:19:48.000 The fact is, foreign policy isn't that easy.

00:19:51.000 You can't just say, I'm against all conflicts because they're all going to be against America's interest or against global interest.

00:19:59.000 What do you say to the No, we need war.

00:20:04.000 What are you talking about?

00:20:05.000 This is the reason that we have to keep the Epstein files quiet.

00:20:08.000 We can't have his clients review.

00:20:09.000 How are we going to keep the war machine rolling?

00:20:11.000 How are we going to keep everybody blackmailed?

00:20:14.000 One person who will never tire of war is Lindsey Graham.

00:20:18.000 He says any day now, Ukraine will be significantly, sufficiently, and superfluously armed by the United States of America.

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00:23:30.000 Have a look at this.

00:23:35.000 The fact of the matter is there's a great distance between us and Russia.

00:23:37.000 We're not militarily threatened in a direct way on the ground by any obvious external enemy, even Russia.

00:23:42.000 So what's Kirstama mean when he stands in front of a crowd of dozers or Bob the Builder?

00:23:47.000 Pick your reference.

00:23:48.000 Maybe you're British, maybe you remember Frag or Rock.

00:23:50.000 And make sub-Churchillian declarations about readiness for war and respect for the military.

00:23:55.000 He's lying.

00:23:56.000 It's a distraction.

00:23:57.000 In fact, the entire news cycle is a distraction.

00:24:01.000 Whatever it is you're into, whatever it is your attention is being glommed onto, make a serious effort to unglom it and focus it onto this.

00:24:09.000 The country is changing fast.

00:24:10.000 The world is changing fast.

00:24:12.000 In these liminal and pivotal moments, there's the opportunity for radical change if you're awake to it.

00:24:20.000 Now, Lindsey Graham believes that there will be more war.

00:24:24.000 And you know, Lindsey Graham likes a warhead to be hurtling through the skies at its intended target. 1.00

00:24:31.000 Is that his prostate or G-Spy?

00:24:32.000 I don't know.

00:24:33.000 But the game regarding Putin's invasion of Russia is about to change.

00:24:38.000 I expect in the coming days you will see weapons flowing at a record level to help Ukraine defend themselves.

00:24:46.000 I expect in the coming days that there will be tariffs and sanctions available to President Trump he's never had before.

00:24:53.000 I expect in the coming days more support from Europe regarding their efforts to help Ukraine.

00:25:00.000 Putin made a miscalculation here.

00:25:02.000 For six months, President Trump tried to entice Putin to the table.

00:25:06.000 The attacks have gone up, not down.

00:25:08.000 One of the biggest miscalculations Putin has made is to play Trump.

00:25:13.000 And you just watch, in the coming days and weeks, there's going to be a massive effort to get Putin to the table.

00:25:20.000 And to those who are helping him, China, buying cheap Russian oil and having no accountability, those days are about over.

00:25:27.000 Besides, like Lindsey Graham, he's a real little sweetheart.

00:25:30.000 Fox News believe that it's not Trump playing Putin, but quite the reverse.

00:25:34.000 This is an extraordinary pivot.

00:25:36.000 Later on in the show, we'll be talking about the UK justice system and its collapse. 0.97

00:25:39.000 And I want to show you the speech that I gave at Turning Point where I focused also on spiritual decline and a culture that wants you dumb, voided of values and of value. 0.96

00:25:51.000 We'll be showing you that in a matter of moments. 0.95

00:25:53.000 Let's have a look at this, though.

00:25:54.000 Fox News claimed that Trump's been played by Putin.

00:25:58.000 In a sense, the kind of claim that the Left side of the centralized legacy media has been making for a while.

00:26:04.000 Let me know in the comments and chat if you agree with that.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, I think, look, it's clear from what the president himself has said, although he wouldn't put it this way, that he got played by Putin and dragged on for months.

00:26:17.000 And he was being jogged along under the impression that Putin had obviously given him that Putin wanted to end the war and was prepared to negotiate from where we are.

00:26:29.000 And it's pretty clear now that Putin didn't want to end the war where we are.

00:26:32.000 He had more conquest in mind and perhaps wanted his whole original purpose of taking Ukraine to be fulfilled.

00:26:42.000 And, you know, I think that's the Ukrainians have held him off. 1.00

00:26:47.000 And Trump, I think, understandably didn't want to add a lot more weaponry into the equation at the beginning of his term because he thought that would simply escalate the conflict.

00:26:56.000 I think he's now changed his mind about that and is prepared to not only add weapons to Ukraine's forces through Europe.

00:27:03.000 He's also prepared, it seems, to impose some sanctions that really might make a difference to Russia.

00:27:08.000 Secondary sanctions on countries that are buying oil from Russia could be very serious for the Russian economy.

00:27:13.000 And we'll be talking to them.

00:27:17.000 In a sense, what Tucker Carlson said at Turning Point seems increasingly irrelevant.

00:27:22.000 You're offered a very limited window within which to make selections of the cover of the kind of future you want for yourself, your family, for your future.

00:27:31.000 I was at Turning Point as well this weekend.

00:27:33.000 I talked about the significance of throwing off the mind-melded man-made manacles.

00:27:41.000 Have a look at this talk.

00:27:45.000 Then we've Jack Pasevik.

00:27:46.000 Please give us a round of applause.

00:27:50.000 Hey, Jack, we were just talking about how to organise a political movement.

00:27:53.000 Now, I wonder, Jack, how significant the change is from when you are campaigning to get elected to when you are an advocate for a party that's already in government when it comes to shaping policy.

00:28:08.000 Whether that's the Maha aspect of this movement or what Charlie Kirk is so devoted to here at Turning Point.

00:28:15.000 How does the objectives change?

00:28:17.000 And how do you remain clear?

00:28:19.000 Because wouldn't you take the, you know, and I don't know if we, how far into it you want to get, wouldn't you take the non-disclosure of the Epstein files as an indication of things get different once you get in government, that the sword of Damocles appears above your head and suddenly you have different challenges?

00:28:34.000 That means people in government have a set of challenges that we don't fully understand and aren't fully clear to us.

00:28:39.000 How do people that are on the periphery of power, whether that's like you, a significant influencer, or every one of us here, a turning point, participate in?

00:28:46.000 How do we ensure that government remains accountable to the ideals that got him elected?

00:28:50.000 Well, Russell, thank you so much for the opportunity to answer that question because I was, and I think there's a few others that are here this weekend.

00:28:57.000 I was one of those people who was brought in with Pam Bondi and received the binder.

00:29:03.000 Remember the binder now?

00:29:04.000 I call it the baloney binder because as I opened it, it turned out that's all it was full of was just baloney.

00:29:10.000 There were no actual new documents in here at all.

00:29:13.000 And yet we were told, hey, this is phase one.

00:29:16.000 Well, phase one went into it, phase two, phase three, phase four, et cetera.

00:29:21.000 We didn't get any of it.

00:29:22.000 In fact, we get this memo that says nothing.

00:29:24.000 So to your point, you're right.

00:29:26.000 It's very easy in a sense to be in the opposition because all you can do, you can point and you can complain and you can whine and you can criticize.

00:29:34.000 It's simple.

00:29:34.000 It's easy.

00:29:35.000 When you're in, you must govern.

00:29:36.000 When you're in, now you have the responsibility, but, but I always say that that responsibility must be mitigated by, number one, the promises that were made before you went in.

00:29:48.000 If you remember the things that you said, the commitments that you made, if you're not making the commitments and staying true to those commitments, then how are you any better?

00:29:56.000 How are you any better than the people that you were previously criticizing and opposing that aren't you just becoming the thing that which you opposed?

00:30:05.000 And so what I do believe is when it comes to something like Epstein, when it comes to something like Maha, you have to have those clear objectives.

00:30:13.000 And the objective doesn't just mean we're going to get through today's news cycle.

00:30:17.000 The objective means that we're meeting our commitments and we're making good on that as we proceed through time to the next election, to the midterms, to the next presidential.

00:30:27.000 And I'll say this on Epstein.

00:30:29.000 We need full disclosure and wherever the truth goes, we must follow it.

00:30:34.000 I've heard a number of things on that subject from Bill O'Reilly saying that it's really an attempt to ensure that people that may have been affiliated with Epstein aren't tarred by the more nefarious aspects of what Epstein was doing to people claiming that Epstein did not die in that cell and is still alive and at large.

00:30:57.000 And my own sort of deep and entrenched biases as a conspiracy theorist lead me to not intuit, just feel.

00:31:06.000 And sometimes I have to be careful, Jack, because I start to want certain things to be true.

00:31:10.000 Like I kind of want Bill Clinton to be implicated and I want Obama to be, I'd be disappointed if I found out that Bill Clinton's a really nice guy and he's never done anything wrong.

00:31:21.000 I'd be like, well, I was looking forward to reading about him being involved in satanic rituals on Epstein Island. 0.92

00:31:27.000 So I have to be careful of those biases.

00:31:29.000 But my sense is that contained within those files is information that is so deep and damaging that it goes beyond the reach of any individual party but that entire system itself.

00:31:43.000 How are we who are sitting on the outside of politics, of government, of world affairs, how are we to understand how the American government, the British government, Prince Andrew, all right, Ehud Barak, the prime minister of Israel, how are we to understand how all of these governments and world affairs operate and the decisions that are made?

00:32:04.000 Now, can you go to the news media?

00:32:06.000 Of course you can.

00:32:07.000 Can you go to social media?

00:32:08.000 Sometimes.

00:32:09.000 But if there are things going on behind the scenes, if there are blackmail operations, we can't possibly understand the true nature of that blackmail.

00:32:20.000 Who's blackmailing who?

00:32:22.000 Who's got the goods, the receipts on another?

00:32:25.000 Why is it that some action is taking place?

00:32:28.000 Well, the politician will tell you, well, This is taking place to achieve this, this, and this, when in reality, it's because someone's got pictures, information, or and by the way, one of the biggest pieces that people miss on Epstein that I think is so crucial is what was Epstein?

00:32:43.000 A money manager, a money manager.

00:32:46.000 He was receiving money from these highly wealthy individuals, and he was pushing the money out into different locations, different accounts, talking about I'm managing your wealth.

00:32:56.000 I'm managing your wealth.

00:32:57.000 If you need someone, needed someone to run, and I say this as a prior intelligence officer, if you needed someone to send out black funds to be able to fund a black operation, what would you need?

00:33:11.000 You'd need a money manager.

00:33:13.000 You'd need someone who understood the art of making money travel throughout the world and go into different pockets without the wider government or without the wider financial agencies seeing this.

00:33:27.000 That's exactly the service that Jeffrey Epstein could provide.

00:33:30.000 Now, you attach that to whatever went on on this island, whatever went on on these airplanes.

00:33:36.000 Suddenly, you've got the makings of an operation that is not just potentially valuable to an intelligence agency.

00:33:44.000 It would be valued to every intelligence agency.

00:33:47.000 Julian Assange said the reason that the information has not been made explicit is because if it were, it would lose its inherent valuable leverage against the powerful individuals contained.

00:33:57.000 If that is the case, and I sort of just generally trust Julian Assange because of everything he's been through, how do you feel as someone that's openly advocated and campaigned for this administration, that's pretty closely connected to this administration, that's publicly backed senior members of the government?

00:34:15.000 Do you feel compromised?

00:34:18.000 Do you feel like, oh, well, at least it's better than the Democrats?

00:34:21.000 Do you feel that there needs to be significant evolution in the way this country is run?

00:34:25.000 Do you think it's an indication that there's a requirement for systemic and institutional change, without which you're going to get some form or rendering of this centralized corruption, regardless of who populates the roles within power?

00:34:39.000 Does it make you feel disheartened?

00:34:42.000 Well, I'll put it this way.

00:34:43.000 I know what it looks like when the government wants to investigate something.

00:34:47.000 I saw the way that, and I mentioned this on stage, that the January 6 participants were treated.

00:34:55.000 We saw what the government can do when the full force and full scope of the power of the federal government is brought to bear.

00:35:02.000 And when they went after the Gen 6ers, people, little old ladies that were waving a flag or praying on the steps of the Capitol, it didn't matter where you were in the country. 0.94

00:35:10.000 It didn't matter where you were in the world.

00:35:12.000 You were getting a knock on the door.

00:35:13.000 You were getting a raid in the middle of the night.

00:35:15.000 You were getting your finances frozen.

00:35:17.000 You were getting your communications sucked up.

00:35:19.000 You were getting all the rest of it.

00:35:20.000 And Russell, I haven't seen any of that with this Jeffrey Epstein client list, the Jeffrey Epstein network.

00:35:26.000 I haven't seen any public hearings or public trials.

00:35:30.000 I don't even have the number off up.

00:35:31.000 It was thousands of people.

00:35:32.000 Thousands of people were rolled up over January 6th.

00:35:35.000 They've all been pardoned now, every single one of them.

00:35:38.000 And yet the only two people who were ever arrested for Jeffrey Epstein were Epstein himself and now Ghelane Maxwell.

00:35:45.000 Even Prince Andrew is now free to travel again on the basis of this report.

00:35:49.000 And I say, it's not good enough.

00:35:52.000 Oh, mate, I'm a little bit freaked out by that.

00:35:54.000 There's two things you've said.

00:35:55.000 One is how easily infatuated we are and distracted we are by the news cycle, the ever-churning news cycle.

00:36:03.000 And I'd not considered that, that when a government is seriously undertaking to resolve a matter, doors get kicked down and people get arrested.

00:36:14.000 You remember COVID?

00:36:15.000 Right.

00:36:16.000 Yeah, they can enforce power.

00:36:18.000 Immersive messaging, total control, arrests, changing laws when not changing laws, regulating through near mandate.

00:36:27.000 All right, that's pretty interesting.

00:36:28.000 Okay, so that sort of suggests to me that you, like I do, believe that there is some degree of suppression and distraction taking place with this matter.

00:36:38.000 How do you reckon the role of people that are not within government but have been supportive of government changes now that we're in this position and this condition?

00:36:46.000 Take, for example, Maha.

00:36:49.000 The Maha, I suppose, is the movement that's generally affiliated with health and food of Americans and perhaps you might say in particular, young people, as it pertains to big food and big pharma and big agriculture.

00:37:00.000 What type of direction do you think the activism has to take with regard to those issues?

00:37:06.000 Because I think in the instance of Maha and the HHS, I think Dr. Roz is fantastic.

00:37:12.000 I love Robert Kennedy.

00:37:14.000 I love Jay Bhattacharya, Mai Makari, Callie and Casey Mean.

00:37:18.000 Seems like there's really good people there.

00:37:20.000 So what is it that they face that's perhaps a less glamorous and incandescent version of Epstein, but nonetheless represents a nexus of interest?

00:37:30.000 What you're talking about, Greg, it's the interests, in this case, hopefully not any blackmail, but corporate interests.

00:37:37.000 And at the end of the day, billions upon billions of dollars that have been made off of the backs of the health of the people.

00:37:44.000 They say, well, the food is cheaper.

00:37:45.000 The food is cheaper.

00:37:46.000 The food is cheaper.

00:37:47.000 But guess what?

00:37:48.000 It's cheaper and the companies are able to sell more of it.

00:37:50.000 They're getting more of a profit because of this, but it is not healthier.

00:37:55.000 It is, in fact, unhealthier.

00:37:57.000 And by putting this unhealthy food into our bodies, my wife, who's just sitting over here, she's from Eastern Europe. 1.00

00:38:03.000 And when she came to the United States, he was filling out her health insurance forms.

00:38:09.000 And they ask her, they say, oh, what allergies do you have?

00:38:13.000 Okay, what food allergies do you have?

00:38:15.000 You know what she said?

00:38:16.000 She said, what's a food allergy?

00:38:18.000 What is that?

00:38:19.000 I've never heard of such a thing.

00:38:20.000 I said, how could you be allergic to food?

00:38:24.000 How is it possible?

00:38:24.000 How?

00:38:25.000 Except, because in other parts of the world, it's not even something that enters into your consciousness that food is the source of life.

00:38:34.000 It's something that you could have some sort of adverse reaction to.

00:38:38.000 And that goes to speak to you that the food in this country is the thing that has the problem.

00:38:42.000 It's not our bodies.

00:38:44.000 It's the food that has this problem.

00:38:45.000 So when it comes to, and I'll get back to your question, and this is why she's so passionate about it, Tanya, that clearly defined goals and clearly defined objectives are so important.

00:38:58.000 And, you know, there's So much that the government is doing on a regular basis, but because it is, you know, it could be a bit boring.

00:39:05.000 You're having a meeting, you're releasing some new talking points.

00:39:09.000 You need more.

00:39:10.000 You need optics.

00:39:11.000 You need to go to these factory farms. 0.99

00:39:14.000 You need to go to Big Ag.

00:39:15.000 You need to go to, and by the way, we see ICE is going again.

00:39:19.000 That's Big Ag again.

00:39:20.000 So you're going to Monsanto.

00:39:22.000 You're going to the GMOs.

00:39:24.000 And, you know, maybe you put the police tape up.

00:39:26.000 Maybe you do something.

00:39:27.000 You've got to bring people on board.

00:39:29.000 Show them the story as you would in any narrative storytelling.

00:39:34.000 Show, don't tell.

00:39:36.000 Jack, if something is as significantly warped as the food that an entire population eats in order to fulfill corporate and commercial edicts, don't the sundry and less significant issues of tribal politics pale into insignificance?

00:39:56.000 The example of your wife, food has become toxic and poisonous. 0.99

00:40:00.000 Yes, we have the example of allergies, but beyond that, we know that we're en masse eating food that's essentially bad for us.

00:40:07.000 Aren't we being invited to reframe our entire perspective on politics and become sort of somewhat more radical and dare I venture somewhat more Christian and approach these institutions as if they are kind of corrupt behemoths that have taken control of the spiritual life of our country? 0.84

00:40:24.000 Well, that's precisely how I view these behemoths.

00:40:26.000 That's precisely how they view these institutions that for far long, and perhaps they were set up with the best of intentions, but they say the road to hell is paved with the best intentions.

00:40:37.000 That these institutions, which were supposed to be set up to protect people, have actually become, the FDA is a perfect example of this, that have become the ones that actually prey upon people, have become the ones that turn into a revolving door of industry interests coming in with the power now of the federal government to put a stamp on anything and say, yes, this is healthy, or yes, this uses natural products, or yes, this is totally approved.

00:41:06.000 In fact, when you start digging through the labels, when you start digging through it.

00:41:09.000 So I will say this.

00:41:10.000 If you go back 10 years ago to now, and I always give people this rubric to use, you should use a rubric of where were we 10 years ago to now.

00:41:19.000 10 years ago, these conversations were not being had in public.

00:41:23.000 10 years ago, a man like Bobby Kennedy was laughed off the stage, was prevented from speaking publicly on so many of these issues by his own party.

00:41:33.000 I would have you remember.

00:41:35.000 And it was his ability to cross the aisle when he did that with Donald Trump and Donald Trump's openness to bring a scion of the Democrat Party with the most powerful name in Democrat politics, a Kennedy, to put him on stage with the MAGA-Maha alliance that was formed.

00:41:54.000 And now what they need to see going forward is the tangible objective interests, making sure that those goals are met.

00:42:03.000 I come from a military background.

00:42:05.000 And with my military background, I say, look, I agree, I'm a Christian.

00:42:09.000 I agree.

00:42:09.000 These institutions are problematic.

00:42:11.000 But with my military mind, I say, what is what we would call the desired end state?

00:42:17.000 What is the commander's desired end state?

00:42:19.000 And so once that's laid out, then you work backwards from that end state and figure out what your mile markers are, your milestones, your objectives, your accomplishments along the way.

00:42:31.000 And then you make a plan to accomplish them.

00:42:32.000 Do you think that's how the deep states operate incontinually, like the desired end state?

00:42:37.000 The Epstein list goes away.

00:42:39.000 Okay, well, say we're going to do these files, then release something, then distract people, and then it goes on for a while, then the social pressures increase so much.

00:42:47.000 Or COVID.

00:42:48.000 COVID was like a military operation, wasn't it, in this country and in mine?

00:42:52.000 Yeah.

00:42:53.000 You can see that military expertise is necessarily deployed in social management and social organization.

00:42:58.000 There's sort of military, there's military as we understand it at the level of warfare.

00:43:02.000 There's military at the level of intelligence.

00:43:05.000 And then there's military at the level of social control.

00:43:08.000 I'd never thought about it before, Jack.

00:43:09.000 This is a bit of a tangential question.

00:43:11.000 From your talking voice, it sounds like you've got a good singing voice.

00:43:15.000 Have you got a good singing voice?

00:43:16.000 Do you sound a bit like Michael Boogley?

00:43:19.000 I'm no Russell Brand, I'll say that.

00:43:21.000 Well, I think I can detect.

00:43:24.000 I bet you can do like sort of schmoozy barroom songs.

00:43:28.000 I could do a little of that.

00:43:28.000 A little bit.

00:43:29.000 A lounge act, perhaps.

00:43:33.000 I reckon you're right about this.

00:43:34.000 In somehow, like a fusion of the military planning, commitment, duty, willingness to sacrifice.

00:43:44.000 By the way, I suppose many of those values are Christian values anyway.

00:43:47.000 Willingness to sacrifice ultimate Christian values if Christ is the ultimate Christian values. 0.64

00:43:53.000 If we are to be Christian soldiers. 0.70

00:43:55.000 Yeah, then we have to be willing to sacrifice.

00:43:58.000 Man, do you hope that people ain't gone too soft for what might be a radical and revolutionary moment?

00:44:04.000 What I tell people is always remind them that our king is Jesus Christ.

00:44:08.000 Keep him at the center.

00:44:10.000 If you keep God and Christ as your center, you will be able to face any social pressures because at the end of the day, at the end of all of our days, the final test is what we're all leading forward to.

00:44:22.000 My little boys that are sitting down right over there, and I'm getting them ready for their final test as we go through this universe that we go through.

00:44:29.000 We will eventually be presented before those gates and we will be brought before the throne and God will say, he'll say to Russell, he'll say to Jack, he'll say to all of us, I gave you these gifts.

00:44:42.000 I gave you these abilities.

00:44:44.000 What did you use them for?

00:44:46.000 Did you use them to bring people to me?

00:44:48.000 And so, Russell, by the way, speaking of which, symbols I think are important.

00:44:53.000 And there was a symbol that I gave you about almost one year ago exactly.

00:44:57.000 I know.

00:44:58.000 There's a bit of a backstory to you passed that on.

00:45:01.000 So I realized that there is a symbol that I needed to get you again.

00:45:05.000 I'm so grateful for this rosary because I gave it to my rosary, Joe.

00:45:10.000 Tell us the story.

00:45:11.000 And so I gave you a rosary one year ago when we were on this Rumble Couch before in Milwaukee.

00:45:16.000 We're back again.

00:45:17.000 You gave it on.

00:45:18.000 All right.

00:45:18.000 So I said, you know something?

00:45:20.000 Russell needs another rosary.

00:45:21.000 This one, if you look at the center, by the way, that's St. Michael the Archangel right there.

00:45:25.000 Oh, I need him.

00:45:26.000 I need him when going into battle.

00:45:28.000 The sword and shield of St. Michael the Archangel.

00:45:31.000 When God needed to go into battle, to send his angels into the battle against the forces of hell, the forces of Satan, the angels that turned, one-third of the angelic hosts turned against him, he sent St. Michael into battle to the fore.

00:45:42.000 I'm so grateful because I gave this to my friend Joe because that man's mind is a battlefield and his life is a battlefield.

00:45:48.000 And I thought like that he would need it more than me.

00:45:50.000 But you know, when you give someone something, you think, I don't really want to give this away.

00:45:55.000 I had that feeling.

00:45:56.000 Sometimes I had that.

00:45:58.000 I love it.

00:45:59.000 Oh, thank you so much.

00:46:00.000 That's such a beautiful gift.

00:46:02.000 And I could also, I can feel the gentle lyricism and crooning continually in your voice.

00:46:07.000 Even as you're talking about those chests and the heavenly gates.

00:46:12.000 I could sort of feel like it could become at any moment a Sinatra-esque song.

00:46:16.000 God bless you for giving me this beautiful gift.

00:46:18.000 I love you, Jack.

00:46:19.000 Thanks, man.

00:46:19.000 Back out to Russell.

00:46:20.000 Thank you, man.

00:46:22.000 Round of applause for Jack for Savior.

00:46:23.000 Thanks for joining us.

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00:46:29.000 Free speech is under attack, Jack, but Rumble refuses to take it lying down. 0.76

00:46:34.000 Rumble is farting out the fierce cock of authoritarianism and clamping shut the butt cheeks of free speech, baby.

00:46:43.000 We've always believed in empowering voices, no matter how unpopular, and now we're taking that fight to the next level.

00:46:48.000 When major advertisers conspire to pull their dollary dues, even brands like Dunkin Donuts turn their back, claiming Rumble had a right-wing culture.

00:46:56.000 But we're not here to fit a mold.

00:46:58.000 We're here to defend free expression.

00:47:01.000 How dare you?

00:47:02.000 How dare you?

00:47:03.000 Just look at some of these comments.

00:47:05.000 Keep it going, Russell.

00:47:06.000 Great stuff.

00:47:08.000 That is from Benito Mussolini.

00:47:11.000 Well done, Russell.

00:47:12.000 Magnificent.

00:47:13.000 I loved your take on Israel.

00:47:15.000 And that's from Mr. Goebbels.

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00:48:29.000 The UK justice system is in trouble.

00:48:31.000 It's time for Russell Brand unpacked.

00:48:37.000 Trial by jury.

00:48:38.000 It seems like a good idea, but is it as good an idea as trial by chat GBT?

00:48:45.000 Well, trial by jury has been a cornerstone of the justice system for centuries, and it definitely has its own strengths.

00:48:54.000 Like bringing in a drug.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, well, let's see how that plays out in the UK.

00:48:58.000 As the world continues to move at a place that makes it barely recognizable, it's important that we remain connected.

00:49:04.000 In the UK, for example, they're normalising an extraordinary idea.

00:49:08.000 The abolition of trial by jury.

00:49:11.000 Let's have a look at how the legacy media handles this.

00:49:14.000 Remember, the agenda is always this.

00:49:16.000 Centralize control, legitimize control, normalize control, and ask people to say thank you while you're doing it.

00:49:24.000 The country's courts are so busy.

00:49:27.000 The justice system is about to collapse.

00:49:29.000 They're so busy.

00:49:31.000 Can we get rid of juries and have robots? 0.75

00:49:33.000 How about not arresting people for posting stuff on Facebook?

00:49:36.000 Maybe.

00:49:37.000 How about devolving power and having localized and regional courts?

00:49:42.000 How about minding your own business?

00:49:43.000 How about resigning?

00:49:45.000 How about taking to task and indeed to trial a corrupt media that lied to an entire population during the pandemic?

00:49:52.000 How about a massive revision of our entire parliamentary system?

00:49:55.000 No.

00:49:56.000 The problem is trial by jury.

00:49:58.000 What we have to do is cleanse every single corner of our nation of the influence of ordinary people. 0.96

00:50:04.000 That's the warning from one of Britain's top judges.

00:50:07.000 The government's thrown money at the problem, but it's still getting worse.

00:50:11.000 The answer is put Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate in prison immediately.

00:50:16.000 We've asked the top judge, we've thrown money at the problem.

00:50:18.000 Where did that money go?

00:50:20.000 Uh, to the top judge?

00:50:21.000 I'm not suggesting.

00:50:22.000 There are more than 75,000 cases waiting to go to trial, the most there's ever been.

00:50:29.000 Sir Brian Leveson has been asked to sort it out.

00:50:32.000 You've got to go through the whole system and try to improve it, not only so that we no longer have an increasing backlog, but that we can eat into the backlog and reduce it to a level that is acceptable so that trials can take place within a reasonable period of time.

00:50:50.000 We've got to get rid of the backlog.

00:50:51.000 It's an idea that's been normalised by mainstream journalists for a while.

00:50:55.000 Here's a couple of journalists from The Guardian.

00:50:57.000 We don't need trial by jury.

00:50:59.000 They mooted the idea in Scotland during the pandemic here.

00:51:02.000 Look at that.

00:51:03.000 And also in the UK, legacy media journalists have been putting this idea into the minds of the public for a while.

00:51:09.000 Why is that?

00:51:10.000 Let me know in the comments and chat why you think it would be good to pilot schemes where ordinary members of the public are evacuated from the process of justice.

00:51:20.000 Remember in the UK at the moment, free speech is becoming increasingly anathema.

00:51:24.000 Also remember that protest laws are being introduced that make protesting near impossible and that facial recognition technology is being implemented to the tune of hundreds of thousands of cases every single month with people getting prosecuted.

00:51:38.000 And not to say that that doesn't mean that some legit criminals end up incarcerated and that's surely a good thing.

00:51:43.000 But primarily what it does is concentrates power in the hands of a few institutions and maybe even a few people.

00:51:49.000 He suggested fewer trials with a jury to save time.

00:51:53.000 What would save time is fewer trials with jury. 0.98

00:51:56.000 What would save even more time if we just put everyone in the UK in prison right now, Took all of their money and killed the absolute worst ones.

00:52:02.000 Potentially lower prison sentences if the defendant pleads guilty at the first opportunity.

00:52:08.000 The government has said it will now go through the recommendations and bring in new laws in the autumn.

00:52:13.000 But there are already concerns about a reduction in the use of juries, which have been part of the justice system since the Middle Ages.

00:52:21.000 Now when people talk about medieval times and the Middle Ages, it'll be with misty-eyed nostalgia. 0.99

00:52:27.000 You know, in pulp fiction, when he says, I'm going to get medieval on your ass. 0.99

00:52:31.000 You hear me talking, Hillbilly boy. 1.00

00:52:33.000 I'm going to get medieval on your ass. 1.00

00:52:35.000 No, it doesn't mean butchery with dangerous weapons. 1.00

00:52:38.000 It would mean a trial by jury.

00:52:39.000 Paula Harriet runs a charity that supports those with criminal records.

00:52:44.000 I do worry about that.

00:52:46.000 That is one of the concerns that I have about the review that defendants won't have the opportunity for a trial in front of their peers and that will be in the hands of people who maybe don't have the same level of proximity to the issues as members of the public do.

00:53:06.000 Modern trials are taking longer and delays caused by COVID haven't helped.

00:53:11.000 The government asked for plans for bold reform and now need to decide which of Sir Brian's plans should pass through Parliament and enter the courts.

00:53:20.000 I respect juries and I admire the conscientious way in which they go about their business.

00:53:26.000 But it can't be right that all cases, however large or small, necessarily get that treatment.

00:53:34.000 As somebody has said, it may be that a jury system is Rolls-Royce, but if there are many cars on the road, the Rolls-Royce isn't moving.

00:53:42.000 Hmm, his upper lip was getting a bit too wet during all that.

00:53:45.000 I'm not sure we can trust this fella just on the basis of upper lip perspiration.

00:53:50.000 Maybe we should give the guy some sort of trial.

00:53:52.000 Maybe we should judge it with a jury.

00:53:54.000 No, AI will be better.

00:53:56.000 Or some unelected military dictator.

00:53:58.000 Yes, yes, that would be a perfect system.

00:54:00.000 Let's have a look at how Europe as a whole seems to be amending its position to, yeah, come in, Nurse Nikki, to jury trials.

00:54:07.000 But first of all, I'm going to be looked at because I'm not a world man.

00:54:11.000 I'm facing actually trial by jury in the United Kingdom next year, hopefully by jury.

00:54:17.000 I think I'll do better with human beings like me rather than AI robots.

00:54:20.000 But who knows these days?

00:54:22.000 In January 2023, the French government announced it'll be scrapping jury trials for rape cases and all crimes with a maximum sentence of 15 to 20 years, citing a need to clear the backlog and make the court system more efficient.

00:54:34.000 Academic papers are even discussing the possibility of replacing jurors with chat GPT-like artificial intelligences, a possibility too horrendous to contemplate.

00:54:43.000 Abolishing jury trials is like censorship, surveillance or digital ideas, a lid that fits every pot.

00:54:48.000 The report also suggests offering up to 40% reductions in sentencing for early guilty pleas.

00:54:54.000 Although this is ultimately a matter for the government or the sentencing council, I would recommend an increase to the maximum reduction for entering a guilty plea to 40% if made at the first available opportunity.

00:55:03.000 Combine this with the knowledge you'll be tried by a judge or tribunal rather than a jury, and that's a system directively incentivising pleading guilty, a recipe for a huge increase in convictions.

00:55:13.000 That's really odd, isn't it?

00:55:14.000 Because the aim will always be truth, justice and transparency, not a particular outcome like an increase in convictions or the ability to imprison people.

00:55:25.000 But if you can criminalize anyone, you can control everyone.

00:55:31.000 If an assumption like the right to free speech can be queried, if suddenly everyone is under continual surveillance and then you even eliminate human intervention via jury from the justice system, you're approaching something like total and totalitarian control.

00:55:46.000 Let me know what you think about that in the comments.

00:55:47.000 The narrative push for reform of the old justice system is old and the propaganda drive justifying it is even older.

00:55:53.000 Articles and reports complaining about the price, unfairness and length of jury trials go back 25 years or more.

00:55:59.000 We've literally had years of propaganda bemoaning the low conviction rate for rape and sexual assault.

00:56:04.000 We've had years of propaganda saying that alleged victims of rape and sexual assault need to be protected, including suggestions of testifying in secret, not being subject to cross-examination and removing jury trials.

00:56:16.000 The intention was to clearly tee up this report or one like it, which claims we should scrap jury trials and incentivize guilty pleas, specifically mentioning sexual assault.

00:56:26.000 This is an example of trying to establish what I would call the propaganda of illusory success.

00:56:32.000 You create a fake issue from thin air and then claim your reforms have fixed it, generating praise for the scheme in the captive media that camouflages both the actual aims and real harms of the plan.

00:56:43.000 It works especially well when tied to identity politics or other emotive issues.

00:56:47.000 More broadly, the list of offences for which the report suggests scrapping juries is quite obviously cynically chosen to control the conversation.

00:56:55.000 Sexual assault, drunk driving, animal cruelty, child pornography and incest.

00:56:58.000 Often when those types of emotive issues are promoted to the forefront of the argument, it is a way of controlling outcomes.

00:57:06.000 Do you remember during the pandemic, for example, that in the end, the way of leveraging a lot of people into getting vaccines was you have to do this for your neighborhood, for your grandmother.

00:57:16.000 It wasn't based on scientific evidence.

00:57:17.000 It was based actually on sociological control and an understanding that most people are pretty well-intentioned.

00:57:23.000 And if you think you can do something to prevent someone else from getting sick or harming someone else, in most cases, people will do it.

00:57:29.000 It seems like this tendency has been exploited in order to get rid of one of the cornerstones of our whole civilization, actually.

00:57:36.000 It's not mentioned in the Leverson report, but a good percentage of the alleged backlog in court cases is due to a huge increase in malicious communications offences.

00:57:44.000 Over 12,000 people per year are arrested for social media posts, etc.

00:57:49.000 More than double the pre-pandemic numbers.

00:57:52.000 Increasing the number and types of criminalized behaviours will inevitably increase the number of criminals.

00:57:56.000 Yes, of course, if you create new crimes, you are creating new criminals.

00:58:01.000 And 12,000 arrests for malicious content seems high.

00:58:05.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

00:58:07.000 Most of you are flat-out criminals, just one by one parading by.

00:58:12.000 And you might say, well, give me a fair trial of a jury.

00:58:14.000 The answer to that, if you're in the UK, is absolutely not.

00:58:16.000 Prison reform is a major part of the plan for the future, too.

00:58:19.000 Since Labour won the election last year, there's been a constant drizzle of prison crisis stories.

00:58:23.000 In March, we were warned of a prison system in crisis that could possibly collapse by 2026 if rapid action was not taken.

00:58:30.000 The same month, Labour were forced to implement Operation Safeguard to deal with prison overflow.

00:58:34.000 Last month, a report claimed overcrowded prisons fuel prisoner violence.

00:58:38.000 In September last year, Labour, that's the party of government, publicly released hundreds of criminals early in order to ease overcrowding and make room for newly convicted social media offences.

00:58:51.000 Following the incredibly fake riots, they later admitted to releasing dangerous criminals by mistake.

00:58:56.000 Why did this story hit the headlines?

00:58:58.000 Why wouldn't they do this in secret?

00:58:59.000 Because the outrage is part of the story.

00:59:00.000 You're being offered a false choice.

00:59:02.000 Also, we can probably expect increased privatisation.

00:59:05.000 The UK already has the most private prisons in Europe, with 17 of England's 122 prisons, holding 18% of the prisoners being run privately.

00:59:12.000 The first of Labour's four new prisons, HMP Mill Psych, is already complete and is confirmed to be privately run and green.

00:59:20.000 In headlines up and down the country, Levison has claimed the measures outlined in his report are needed to prevent the collapse of our criminal justice system, but these measures are the collapse of the criminal justice system and start of a criminal justice system.

00:59:32.000 So there you have it.

00:59:34.000 The United Kingdom is implementing facial recognition technology, the criminalization of free speech, the foreclosure almost of the right to protest, all stories that we've covered in recent weeks and now wants to abolish trial by jury.

00:59:48.000 And even if the response to an outrage, the likely outrage that will follow this will be, it's only under certain circumstances and for very particular trials, you know that the way that they introduce these measures is incrementally.

01:00:01.000 You know that whenever you see a mainstream legacy media news story, it's a kind of testing of the water.

01:00:06.000 And you also know that their intention is always maximal control.

01:00:10.000 It seems to me that the ultimate desire is to turn the UK into something resembling a prison or an airport where your entire life is modulated and controlled, where you carry a digital ID, where your bank accounts can be frozen at will, where if you're anything other than totally obedient and compliant, you can be criminalised immediately, recognized digitally and jailed without trial.

01:00:31.000 But that's just what I think.

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