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00:00:07.000I'm going to roll a deal. I'm going to roll a deal. I'm going to roll a deal. I'm going
00:00:28.000In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:00:39.000You are awakening, you are wonderful, and today we are going to implement your enlightenment further by simply telling you the truth as best as we understand it about a wide variety of subjects.
00:00:51.000The CIA, for example... I'll take these off, I feel embarrassed now.
00:00:53.000The CIA... They look quite cool, I thought.
00:02:26.000He go, Baudrillard, the fact that there's a Disney World in America distracts you from the fact that Disney World is America.
00:02:34.000If you have a sort of a ludicrous space that's contained within America that sort of You forget?
00:02:40.000Hold on a minute, this mall's exactly like that!
00:02:43.000My whole world is this sort of weird simulation.
00:02:45.000We're in the Truman Show right now, baby!
00:02:48.000What kind of simulacrum do you think you're living in?
00:02:51.000Anyway, Disney World, what's funny about Disney World is it can't sort of stay within its own parameters, like, you know, there's always a mouse taking its head off and scratching itself under the armpit, or, like, someone being sick, or those tunnels under it where dead bodies are carried around and all of that.
00:03:09.000All right, I made it sound worse on purpose.
00:03:11.000But what it is, is if someone dies in Disney World, which people do, because they die everywhere, because one of the things we keep ignoring is that we're all going to die, because we can't cope with it, because we can't confront our own temporality, because then we have to sort of think, well, what's the point in spending all your time in vanity and competition, when in fact all that matters is love and those rare moments of love and relief that you feel in this world?
00:03:53.000Even like that song in Little Mermaid.
00:03:55.000Under the ground, under the ground, all the cadavers and things you'd rather that people did not see, yeah.
00:04:03.000Also, when there's brawls down Disney between... What's really weird about this mainstream media news story and a brawl in Disneyland, or world, is the way they keep sort of going like there's a family and a larger family.
00:04:13.000We can't work out if it's a family of people that are large or just a family of greater number, can we?
00:04:18.000Or that they're called the larger family.
00:04:58.000We're going Disney World, then the Epcot Center, which is frankly going to be a disappointment.
00:05:02.000It's not the type of thrill fam was expected to see earlier this week.
00:05:06.000Natalie is back with what unfolded in what is called Well, like it says, it's not the type of thing families expect to see at Disney World.
00:07:01.000I had the most delightful picture stood next to Goofy.
00:07:05.000There weren't other frustrated people on antidepressants scrambling around on the floor in ennui and desperation because all of their dreams, not just this one, have been crushed by an unloving What elements of it would be the most magical place on Earth?
00:07:19.000Of those things you've just listed, the queues, the, like, oh, it's just, there's an awful atmosphere in parts of Disney World, isn't there?
00:07:26.000Space Mountain, like, like maybe when you sort of, like, say if you go in a shop and you see a lot of cuddly toys for sale.
00:08:45.000That's the bit you would talk about, isn't it?
00:08:46.000Yeah, because it's the, as you suggested, it's the kind of physical manifestation of the internal feelings that you feel when you experience all the problems that come with going to Disneyland.
00:08:59.000We're craving some moment of the real.
00:09:00.000Although many people, many philosophers will say there's only so much reality we can take, what we're actually, I think, all craving is a sense of something natural and actual.
00:09:09.000Like, not suspended on some meaningless conveyor belt, your life on rails.
00:09:14.000And Disney World is promising for you that it can synthesize a pleasant experience, but actually they can't deliver that for you.
00:09:20.000What they're going to have is a brawl that actually looked quite good.
00:10:53.000Football is nice where we talk about the beauty contained within football.
00:10:57.000So much to talk about we can't talk about on YouTube.
00:10:59.000Simply, not because of hate speech, because we Because of actual love speech, and true love brings people together against the establishment, and they're not going to allow that, baby.
00:11:07.000See you over on Rumble, there's a link in the description.
00:11:09.000And, by the way, if you're already on Rumble, press the red button now and join us on Locals.
00:11:52.000I'm sure if he finds out that people are watching YouTube videos that have been put there by the CIA in an attempt to recruit them to bring down Russia and to end his tyranny, he's gonna just go, Oh, well, you roll with the punches.
00:12:10.000So Vladimir Putin has warned his compatriots to be on their guard against traitors and Parliament voted last month to increase the penalty for state treason from 20 years to life in prison.
00:12:22.000So do not like and subscribe to this video I would suggest.
00:12:25.000Life and subscribe, is what we say here.
00:12:29.000Let's have a look at how that propaganda's rolling out on the definitely not propaganda network, CNN, who, by the way, broadcast by the very person who tried to cajole Trump and say, who do you want to win?
00:13:16.000I came at Disney World, I've queued up for 15 bloody minutes, I'm no nearer the front, 30 quid for this replica of Todd the Fox from Fox Aloud.
00:13:26.000I think, do you know what I'm going to do?
00:13:54.000Country's deteriorating, it's falling apart, everybody hate each other, all of the treasured institutions, whether they're electoral, media, judicial, are totally mistrusted, either by one side or the other side.
00:14:08.000Yeah, also, as we were kind of talking about earlier, you know, the US has imposed sanctions on Russia with the sole purpose of, like, Uh, I guess making people's lives much worse in Russia.
00:14:18.000I don't know how much it has worked, but I wouldn't imagine that you would think of the Americans as, oh, those wonderful Americans.
00:18:11.000I mean, like, when we're kind of talking about Big Pharma, we're talking about Albert Baller and the opportunities that they see in, like, cancer medicines, and now the kind of revolving door that it seems like someone who gets loads of grants and money from Pfizer are now going to be head of NIH.
00:18:26.000The kind of things that Big Pharma that's been found in this report that they do, like, literally break laws.
00:18:32.000To ensure that prices remain high, that American people, everyday people, can't afford that medicine.
00:18:42.000So in the case of Bistolic, a blood pressure medicine, Allergan entered a legal pay-for-delay agreement to prevent the delay of generic competition.
00:18:50.000So what that means, Russ, I'll leave it here, but what it means is the opportunity for cheaper drugs, for things like cancer, these are not nothing drugs, cancer drugs, These pharmaceutical companies broke the law to stop generic versions of those drugs becoming available for American people.
00:19:08.000And of course Biden will not legislate to reverse that and make drugs white label, which would save loads of money and loads of lives.
00:19:17.000Let's tell you this as well, you know ventilators, they were one of the heroes of the pandemic, but like other pandemic heroes, teachers, nurses, law enforcement officers, it's time to abandon those heroes because they Well, they're not useful anymore, and possibly, in the case of ventilators, they were not useful then.
00:19:32.000A new paper offers fresh evidence ventilators killed COVID patients, suggesting ventilator-required pneumonia, not COVID itself, caused many deaths.
00:19:40.000Another kick up the nuts for those of us that may have entertained the mainstream narrative.
00:19:45.000We'll be unpacking that in more detail over the coming days, but it's time now to look at another astonishing story from that period of time.
00:19:54.000You remember, don't you, the great myth That even symptomless people could be spreading COVID.
00:20:02.000And it's even hard now to say that that was not true.
00:20:06.000Worse than that is that as early as May 2020, a test was available that would have proven that people without visible symptoms were not themselves infectious, meaning that many of the rules, masks, lockdown, distancing, were irrelevant.
00:20:32.000Hey, conspiracy theorists, as you know, questioning Albert Baller, CEO of Pfizer, or Anthony Fauci, former head of everything important, is basically an attack on science itself.
00:20:44.000So, if there were a test that could have revealed that many of the laws and measures that were undertaken during the pandemic were unnecessary and the CDC ignored that test, then that would be what?
00:21:42.000We've got new things to think about now!
00:21:45.000It's a little thing called freedom, baby.
00:21:47.000Let's remind ourselves what these smug dictators were telling us just a matter of months ago and try to remember this is the world you're still living in.
00:21:56.000This is the price you're still paying.
00:21:57.000When you walk down a high street and you see businesses closed, when you see education standards falling, think how relevant it is then.
00:22:03.000What is your level of concern that we're going to discredit public health officials to the point of You know, look at Russia.
00:23:08.000Some of this, though, would become more difficult to accept if we were to learn that there was a test developed during the pandemic that would reveal that asymptomatic people were much less likely of transmitting the virus, because then there'll be no need for everyone to wear masks.
00:23:22.000There'll be no need for social distancing.
00:23:54.000Oh, the thing about this virus is you might not know you have it, but then you could give it to like a grandmother or something like that and kill them.
00:24:01.000So that's why you should do X, Y, Z. Even though we now know, I believe it's possible to say this on YouTube, that they didn't test on transmissions at Pfizer This was the justification given by Anthony Fauci, or as I call him, science itself, in the first week of April 2020 for his 180 on community mask recommendations.
00:24:19.000A lot of people who were asymptomatic were spreading infection, he said, so everyone should wear a mask.
00:24:25.000A chorus of public health professionals, including Scott Gottlieb, the former commissioner of the FDA, made the same argument as did the CDC.
00:24:31.000The spectre of asymptomatic transmission undergirded not just policies on masks, but on distancing and quarantines as well.
00:24:39.000A lot of things went on in that three-year period.
00:24:42.000We learned that people could be told what to do, people could be told to stay in their house, people could be told to ignore the most sort of primal ceremonial duties in life, weddings, births, funerals, all in order to serve an even higher principle, protect one another, look after the sanctity of life.
00:24:55.000And if indeed that's what we were doing, what could be more noble than that?
00:24:58.000And this willingness to come together in pursuit of a noble cause is the one thing that may yet save us.
00:25:03.000The entire apparatus of our pandemic response, which most consequentially kept millions of healthy children out of full-time school for more than a year, was based on this notion.
00:25:11.000Now, a paper from researchers at Stanford University School of Conspiracy Theories and Stuff David Icke Made Up, sorry, of Medicine and Stanford Hospitals, raises an extraordinary prospect.
00:25:23.000Transmission from asymptomatic people is far, far less common than we were led to believe.
00:25:29.000From a special test they developed, the researchers found a remarkable 96% of people who were PCR positive but without symptoms were not infectious.
00:25:37.00096% of people who were asymptomatic, or another way of saying that would be, All of them.
00:25:42.000Most people who don't have symptoms, of course, are not infected.
00:25:45.000So the likelihood of someone who is not noticeably sick actually being infected and infectious was exceedingly rare.
00:25:59.000I know some of you are like, I knew I was right!
00:26:02.000when other people it's like god god this means that much of the actions we were told or compelled to take including an acceptance of all those closed or half empty schools had little to no benefit all of those lockdowns all of the things your kids went through all of the mental health suffering all of the failure of small businesses was a waste of Time?
00:26:21.000Worse still, the novel test at Stanford that showed a very low rate of infectious asymptomatic people who had tested positive was available as early as May 2020.
00:26:31.000Yet the CDC and other health authorities did nothing.
00:26:34.000And all the while they were doing that, by the way, they were saying science, science, follow the science.
00:26:45.000Despite the narrative, the idea that substantial portions of infections were acquired from people without symptoms never had a strong evidence base.
00:26:53.000I remember, like, listening to it on the radio and seeing it on TV.
00:26:56.000Just because you don't have symptoms doesn't mean you can't spread the virus.
00:27:02.000In June 2020, Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the World Health Organization's Emerging Diseases and Zoonosis Unit, said that transmission from asymptomatic people was very rare.
00:27:12.000So just a month later, the World Health Organization said it's rare.
00:27:16.000There was a test available a month earlier than that that proved it, and the WHO said it.
00:27:47.000So then why did we have to do all that stuff?
00:27:50.000Could there The next day, after criticism from some health professionals, WHO officials walked back her statement and Van Kerkhove said it was a complex question.
00:28:27.000Some views went in the other direction.
00:28:29.000The following month, a paper in JAMA Network Open suggested that more than half of all transmission came from infected people without symptoms.
00:28:36.000Naturally, this finding, which supported the health authority's messaging and justified various community interventions, was covered everywhere, from CNN to PBS to NBC to Fox.
00:28:46.000So one study they ignore, and another study they really cover and pay attention to.
00:28:51.000Almost as if the mainstream media is presenting you some information and denying you other information.
00:28:57.000Yet this conclusion was based on mathematical models, which are based on numerous assumptions and subjective choices by the researchers, which is to say, in layman's terms, is a guesstimate.
00:29:06.000They ignored the one that was based on empirical research and evidence.
00:29:40.000The question has never been, can people without symptoms transmit SARS-CoV-2, but rather to what extent this occurs in the general population.
00:29:50.000If it's 100% of asymptomatic people, then obviously there's legitimacy behind measures such as double mask, keep apart, stay in your house in an unprecedented fashion.
00:30:00.000But if it's 4%, then we have to have a different conversation, don't we?
00:30:03.000About the various competing interests.
00:30:06.000Mental health, small businesses, general fitness, liberty.
00:30:11.000All of those things are back on the table.
00:30:12.000The Stanford test does not answer that question specifically, but it tells us something related that's more important.
00:30:17.000How likely is it for someone who has COVID but doesn't have symptoms to be infectious?
00:30:22.000Most everyone has heard of the standard PCR test, which detects whether someone has the virus, but it cannot detect whether the person is capable of infecting others.
00:30:30.000In May 2020, the Stanford researchers created a specific PCR test that could do this.
00:30:36.000A pretty significant breakthrough, one might imagine, in a world that was dealing with something so seismic and traumatic.
00:30:42.000The purpose of the test, Dr. Benjamin Pinsky, one of the authors of the original paper on the test, explained was to help clinicians in the hospital accurately find out if patients were infectious or not.
00:30:52.000Hospitals were delaying procedures and delaying treatments such as chemotherapy and implementing various infection control measures unnecessarily on patients who tested positive on a regular PCR test but who were not infectious.
00:31:14.000The minor strand test gave a definitive answer one way or the other.
00:31:17.000To be clear about the importance of all this, as early as May and June 2020, a test existed that if it had been rolled out in medical centers and regular labs nationwide, could have enabled people to know for certain whether they were infectious or not.
00:31:28.000Even if you were a very cautious person, you go, am I infectious?
00:31:32.000All right, I'm going to go see my grandma or whatever, because this test has revealed that I am categorically not infectious.
00:31:38.000Therefore, I can go and tend to a relative and their other needs.
00:31:41.000There are so many areas where this would have been useful, where it actually perfectly makes the argument.
00:31:46.000Science, the importance of testing, the importance of trust in those bodies, an opportunity to have a conversation.
00:31:51.000I know these people are clearly not pursuing an agenda either to regulate a population or to profit.
00:31:57.000Oh, did the pandemic serve the ability of governments to regulate and control at a time when more democracy is clearly an option?
00:32:03.000Did it get used to help companies to profit because of various factors?
00:32:06.000In a conversation around this and the release of this test would have meant that we would have gone, oh no, because otherwise they wouldn't have released that test.
00:32:12.000That's what we would have had to have said, but they didn't release that test.
00:32:15.000Unlike the ambiguities of epidemiological studies or models, this was a biological test.
00:32:20.000The CDC ultimately published Pinsky and his colleagues' paper about the test in January 2021, but it began use at Stanford more than seven months earlier.
00:32:29.000Not only is it an alternative model, it was a more effective model, not based on mathematics, conjecture, it was based on, oh, well, we just see by using this test.
00:32:37.000Isn't that extraordinary that that wasn't taken advantage of?
00:32:39.000This raises serious questions for those in charge of the CDC, NIH, NIAID, for why resources were not allocated toward making the test broadly available.
00:32:47.000I've got a few hunches, and I don't think they'll be answering those questions, do you?
00:32:53.000Though the test was developed for use in hospitals, its utility outside of a medical setting is obvious.
00:32:57.000Regular people could have paid for the test to find out after they got over a bout of COVID whether they were still infectious or not, enabling them to go to work, visit relatives and so on.
00:33:07.000Millions of kids could have tested out of isolation.
00:33:10.000More broadly, the CDC could have immediately conducted a huge study to actually answer the question health officials had only been conjecturing about.
00:33:17.000What percent of positive people without symptoms have the capability of infecting others?
00:33:21.000All upside if your objective is to protect a population, to protect an economy, to protect across a number of intersecting factors, mental health, etc.
00:33:35.000Enter the second groundbreaking piece to this story.
00:33:38.000Researchers at Stanford later looked at data from this test from July of 2020 through April 2022 and answered the question, helpful for it is neglected to answer.
00:33:46.000And what they found out does not match the narrative about a common threat of people walking around without symptoms infecting others.
00:33:53.000For the majority of the pandemic, only 4% of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 PCR positive patients were shown to be infectious.
00:34:01.000During the Omicron wave, the percentage peaked at about 25%, so there was some variety and variation.
00:34:07.000It's all data that would have been invaluable.
00:34:09.000We can't narrativise it just to our own ends.
00:34:11.000We could have used science to create better conditions for everyone, all of us.
00:34:16.000It could have been something that we were genuinely all in together, as it was for about 15 minutes at the beginning of the pandemic, if you can remember that, before we all started thinking, Wait a minute, are we being exploited again?
00:34:26.000Dr. Ralph Thayer, an infectious diseases fellow at Stanford, said, Think about it this way.
00:34:36.000Even if every single student in a school without symptoms was infected, 96% of them still weren't capable of transmitting to others.
00:34:43.000Yet, of course, most people without symptoms are not infected.
00:34:46.000Moreover, just because 4% were technically capable of infecting others, that does not mean in actuality they had a sufficient amount of replicating virus to do so.
00:34:55.000We are talking about subgroup of a subgroup of a subgroup.
00:35:01.000It's fractaling down into minutiae, isn't it?
00:35:05.000And yet, The most extreme measures were taken.
00:35:08.000Under what circumstances would that make sense if there is an agenda that's not related to the well-being of the population?
00:35:14.000And I'd invite you at this moment to consider, when you look across society more broadly, does it look like everything's being arranged quick?
00:35:30.000Outside of hospitals, the harms were arguably far more extensive.
00:35:34.000Schools, if they were open at all, operated at half capacity in order to comply with distancing rules.
00:35:38.000In many states, all children were required to mask all of the time, and students were quarantined repeatedly for long stretches of time, even though they were not infectious.
00:35:46.000All of these rules that kept healthy children home or in masks were based on the idea that we didn't know who could be infected and contagious, but we could have known.
00:36:04.000Who can forget those video illustrations all over social media and major news outlets of little red poison dots floating out of people's mouths and noses toward innocent individuals nearby?
00:36:13.000While medical centers and other places with particularly vulnerable people may have benefited for some time from the more stringent rules, schools, as they did in Sweden, and most of society, could have simply followed the classic advice, if you're sick, stay at home, and we would have ended up in the same place.
00:36:27.000But possibly with some different results in different areas of life.
00:36:32.000Isn't this yet another piece of information that makes you query the underlying philosophy behind the pandemic?
00:36:39.000Whether it was unconscious, whether it was ineptitude or by design, just for a moment remember the events you missed, the inconvenience you experienced, the money you lost, the relatives you missed, the funerals you didn't go to.
00:36:50.000Just for a moment think about how your children have been affected, where Ever or not people took their own lives because they couldn't cope with being in isolated circumstances, whether chemotherapy, heart disease medications were lost out, whether resources were directed incorrectly, whether or not you were made to feel that you were not doing the right thing because of particular medications.
00:37:06.000Every single measure appears to have been designed to impede freedom and maximize profit.
00:37:11.000Appears to have been designed that way.
00:37:13.000Whether it was unconscious, whether it was ineptitude, or by design, I'm not suggesting malfeasance of this scale.
00:37:21.000I don't have access to all of the information in the world.
00:37:24.000It seems that much of the world's most important information is kept from us.
00:37:27.000At this point, can you with hand on heart continue to call people conspiracy theorists because they don't accept what they are told by the media, the government, and big corporations?
00:38:12.000Maybe you're an American, maybe you're a conspiracy theorist, maybe you're thinking, why the hell are those two limeys?
00:38:21.000You might be thinking, those bloody limeys talking about football, because it provides a beautiful framing for all of our social understanding.
00:38:31.000Gossip, glamour, heroes, the narrative itself can be found in football.
00:38:36.000As someone once said, the world is not made of atoms, the world is made of stories.
00:38:40.000And the stories that emerge from football are some of the greatest stories available.
00:38:44.000It also gives me and Gareth an opportunity to make predictions in a game that I'm sure to win, where we have to predict the scores of certain fixtures.
00:38:51.000We get three points if you 100% get it right, one point if you get the general result correct.
00:41:31.000Because Luton is an old school football team.
00:41:33.000Like, I think, I don't know this and I don't want to judge you if you're a Luton fan, but I have a sense that Luton still has what you might call traditional 80s fans.
00:41:41.000Yeah, I guess, yeah, I mean, like, Luton conjures a lot of memories, doesn't it, from when we were younger, like?
00:42:44.000And even, like, when they won against Sunderland, there was a pitch invasion, and it felt like a bit... It doesn't feel like a sort of a friendly pitch invasion.
00:42:56.000I'm just saying, this is the point I'm trying to make.
00:42:59.000Football has had to become sanitised in order to commodify it to the degree where it could become an innocuous global brand, even though it's still full of the glory that football will always contain and present.
00:43:15.000But as it becomes more and more commodified, more and more detached from the fans that it's traditionally associated with, the gentrification of the game, something that began a long, long time ago, really, sort of with the advent of the Premier League, most notably, in our country, it's sort of certain aspects of the game, the sort of eating a pie, drinking Bovril, getting punched in the face by a stranger, All of the things we are proudest of.
00:43:42.000I think it's like that thing with stadiums.
00:43:46.000I think we want to retain, we don't want all football to become, as you say, sanitised.
00:43:52.000We don't want every stadium to be one of those new, all look exactly the same stadiums.
00:43:58.000And so when you get a stadium like Luton's that's 10,000, I guess it's the difference between Upton Park and the new stadiums.
00:44:06.000Because, right, at West Ham, you used to have to walk down Barking Road, or Romford Road, or Green Street, and you're walking through, like, communities of- Communities.
00:44:15.000Bengali people, and shops full of saris, and little pie and mash shops, and pubs that have had generations of West Ham fans there.
00:44:23.000The statue of my peers, and Bobby Moore, and Geoff Hurst, and it's sort of full of real ritual.
00:44:29.000The inconvenience of arriving at Upton Park, or maybe getting out of Plastow, because there'll be too much people at Upton Park.
00:44:34.000You'll get off one earlier or one later.
00:44:36.000And now, you're in a Westfield shopping centre at Stratford.
00:44:40.000You're moving for a place of commerce.
00:44:42.000If you look at the economic class that are represented by the walk along Green Street versus where the kind of tax arrangements probably enjoyed by the unit proprietors in any Westfield.
00:44:58.000If you were to look at that, it would tell you a story.
00:45:00.000There's information in that story about the way that the game is being co-opted and changed.
00:45:04.000It's impossible not to regard it through a political lens.
00:45:08.000So whilst I'm not glorying in, like, the aspects of football in the 1980s that were obviously prejudicial, violent, what I'm saying is it was something that was clearly owned by a particular community, and that there was something... I feel a kind of nostalgia about that, even though at the time I was Probably quite frightened.
00:45:26.000Well, we know where these massive stadiums and franchises lead us to.
00:45:30.000It leads us to something like the Super League, doesn't it?
00:45:32.000That's the trajectory of the way football is kind of going, and we don't want that.
00:45:38.000Retaining something like Luton being in the Premier League would feel like a kind of resistance to that.
00:45:44.000You can have a look now at the entrance to Kenilworth Road versus the LA Galaxy, say, entrance, just to sort of see for yourselves.
00:45:52.000So that's on your way into Luton, and then what's it like to go into LA Galaxy?
00:47:01.000That's why it's always been exploited, I think, politically, whether it's Rishi Sunak, WEF
00:47:07.000Stooge and Prime Minister of the UK never elected, attending a game at Southampton,
00:47:13.000the first team to be relegated at the bottom of the table, there he is, being a normal
00:47:17.000person, being a normal man at Southampton.
00:47:21.000Or things like Tony Blair playing football with Kevin Keegan, the then England manager,
00:47:28.000because he, for reasons I've never fully understood, supported Newcastle.
00:47:33.000Newcastle were amazing then, perhaps as now it's like an exciting time to be a Newcastle fan.
00:47:37.000And I still remember this moment of watching Tony Blair exchanging headers with Kevin Keegan and I still, for all the war crimes and all the dead Iraqi children and all of the globalism, this still in part
00:47:48.000informs my impression of Tony Blair favourably.
00:47:50.000Like for example, if like some world court arrested Tony Blair and were about to execute him as a war
00:47:55.000criminal, let's face it that's no different to what happened to Saddam Hussein and Colonel Gaddafi,
00:48:00.000and unless you're making the argument that it's more right to do that to brown people
00:48:03.000than white people, then why would that not happen? It's not a great argument. It's not a great argument.
00:48:08.000Like, this would be what I would say in Tony Blair's defence.
00:48:12.000Not that he would need it, his whole family's lawyers.
00:48:15.000But I'd go... Also, I don't think he'd call you up as his first witness.
00:49:05.000Margaret Thatcher famously said, when asked what's your greatest achievement, she said Tony Blair.
00:49:11.000Because then politics became sanitised, centralised, the idea of an alternative, a challenge to the relationships between corporate power and the state.
00:51:13.000Well, the big news, obviously, is that Man City have basically won the title now, haven't they?
00:51:17.000Yeah, because Brighton are too good at football, inexplicably.
00:51:22.000And like, now that, this is what I think, now that Spurs aren't going to have Nagelsmann as their next manager has been confirmed, I think they're getting Deserby.
00:52:50.000I was listening to a podcast the other day that was saying that there's never been anyone like him in the Premier League in the kind of effect that he's had on Brighton.
00:53:17.000Apparently he's a lovely, lovely guy as well.
00:53:20.000Potter got the job at Chelsea on the basis that What he'd done at Brighton was incredible, as well as his previous employment in the game of football.
00:53:29.000He eventually ascends to one of the top positions in British football, manager of Chelsea, albeit a position that's understood to be quite temporary.
00:53:40.000Then De Zerby's come in and sort of been a bit better, a bit better than him.
00:53:56.000Potter must have been looking at Brighton and thinking, oh no, I've got all these too many good players here at Chelsea on contracts that are too long and Brighton are better now.
00:54:07.000He must have experienced some self-doubt.
00:54:31.000He's gonna get a new, he's gonna get a brilliant job, and then it sort of doesn't, if you don't, there's so much timing, if you don't jump ship at the right moment, then you go back into descent.
00:54:39.000Like, other than this peculiar anomaly of Frank Lampard being given another job at Chelsea temporarily, what can, like, and I like Frank Lampard, But he's seemingly can do no wrong in the managerial sense.
00:54:52.000Doesn't matter how many times he fails.
00:56:17.000Because I think Man City are just an unstoppable sort of killing machine now.
00:56:23.000And perfectly embodied by the red-helmeted Haaland.
00:56:29.000There's nothing that can realistically be done to stop them.
00:56:32.000The Man City thing, isn't it, is like, you know, in terms of, like, from a footballing sense, people were like, well, look at the size of their squad, they're able to, like, you know, rest certain players and bring in other players who are just as good as those players.
00:56:44.000But there is another, and obviously with Arsenal, you could point to the injuries that they got at the wrong time, in a Saliba got injured at the wrong time of the season.
00:56:50.000Yeah, but like Gary Neville says, you can't just have one injury and then say that the whole project doesn't work anymore.
00:57:02.000Bottled it. It's a mentality isn't it at that point and it's always a fascinating thing for me in football
00:57:08.000That you know as many tactics as you've got and as many like amazing players and everything that's something like
00:57:15.000you know Personality and character and that. A clear example of that
00:57:18.000is Fergie's last title like in In his final season as manager, they managed to win the Premier League, which in retrospect looks like a team that shouldn't have been capable of that, certainly on the basis of what they did for the subsequent 10 years now and immediately afterwards.
00:57:36.000That person was able through will and belief.
00:57:41.000My fascination with football, even though I'm fascinated with many aspects of it, the game itself, the moments of drama it can produce, transfers, the history of the clubs, the behaviour of the fans, what it really comes down to to me, I think, is the power of belief and thought.
00:57:56.000That's why I fixate in particular on managers, So I think, like, can individuals create meaningful change?
00:58:44.000If he just relayed all of his information into an AI device and it dispatched that information, I don't think the results would be the same.
00:58:52.000There is something human and interpersonal.
00:58:53.000And I think as we continue to see the power of commerce and technology dehumanising us and stripping our culture of meaning, Even when enhancing superficial beauty or efficacy or safety or convenience or whatever the claims that are made by commerce are, the idea that something about human beings can't be replicated, that amounts to sacredness, I think, in the world now, that they have a sacred role to play.
00:59:19.000I heard someone say the other day that there were certain managers that you never would see on the pitch.
00:59:25.000You know, like if Fergie, now you're in trouble if he'd come down, or they'd ruin things, like their ideas would be annoying, you wouldn't want them, it's left to the coaches, that kind of stuff.
00:59:37.000But it almost is a totemic and talismanic power that these figures have.
00:59:43.000And I suppose there's many ways of doing that, whether it's Roy Hodgson's presumed avuncular sweetness, or... You know, what is it they're bloody well doing?
00:59:52.000I mean, Leeds the other day, that was an amazing game.
00:59:55.000I actually watched that, and it looked like Leeds were going 2-0 up at one point, and then Bamford missed the penalty, and I mean, that would have been a massive result for Leeds.
01:00:02.000They ended up drawing 2-2, and they look good.
01:00:33.000He said, didn't he, that he knows as much as Klopp or Guardiola, right?
01:00:37.000And then afterwards when they sort of went, you can't say that, because of their achievements in the game, like you've not won the competitions that they have won, he said, I was doing what Fergie done, like I was taking attention away from the players and putting it on me.
01:00:52.000So he sort of actually made yet another claim while trying to... Yeah, I saw that and I thought, with Sam Allardyce, I wonder if he could sort of say, like, is it that you can instill in the Leeds team, like, listen, you're going in the Championship next year, this is about, you're playing for your lives, you've got two games.
01:01:10.000Otherwise, everything's going to change for you.
01:01:14.000You don't want to have that experience.
01:01:16.000I wonder what it is you say to people.
01:01:18.000I mean, the way that in their style of play, it literally looked like they were trying harder.
01:01:22.000I know there's that, like, joke that we say, like, pressing is trying harder, but they were chasing everything down in a way that Leeds haven't done maybe all season.
01:01:29.000So, I mean, if that's one of the results that Allardyce has had, then I don't know.
01:01:47.000No, I haven't been to social events, and The Neighbour, I worry about every time I drive back to my... Casey hears this.
01:01:54.000Well, no, I worry about bumping into him, because I think that, I think, now, as a result of telling you this story, that maybe he's feeling awkward about this as well.
01:02:03.000Because it was a bit of a, it was a strange night.
01:03:32.000That's the universe telling you you should have manned up and played- Sorry to use that phrase these days, but you should have- Personed up.
01:09:13.000And the amazing thing about that, just to come full circle, is when you have these modern grounds where you can't get anywhere near the bloody pitch anymore, you don't have situations like that.
01:09:23.000Even its architecture is sanitary if you think of the feeling of the London Stadium.
01:09:28.000It's sort of low, there are no enclaves, there are no sudden little ghettos of dank darkness where culture might brew in that mushroom fungal environment.
01:09:40.000Hey listen, we're going to do the rest of this show over on locals now and after that we're going to look at a very very nice footballer, Declan Rice.
01:09:48.000On the show tomorrow we're going to be looking at RFK's Fauci claims, you're going to love that.
01:09:51.000We're going to be looking at succession and what he can tell us about the role of media in elections and is succession unwittingly a kind of a tool for the liberal assumption that there are goodies and baddies in the old school way.
01:10:05.000We'll also be talking to former MI5 intelligence officer Annie Mashon.
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