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00:02:08.000Harry and Meghan have got that Netflix documentary out, so we're going to look at that and what its function is.
00:02:15.000And I'll be citing Baudrillard, who's a French philosopher, And also I'll be doing it correctly, which is going to be astonishing.
00:02:21.000We're going to be looking at Amazon's Halo Rise.
00:02:24.000They're going to monitor our sleep, presumably to help us.
00:02:28.000If you're watching us now on YouTube, remember we can only stay with you for 10 minutes, then we'll only be available on Rumble.
00:02:33.000So click the link in the description if you're watching us on YouTube and join us on Rumble.
00:02:38.000In our item, Here's the News Now, Here's the Effing News, we'll be taking a deep dive and closer look at the militarisation of the police force and in particular looking at that clip-clop robot dog thing that they're turning into a police officer now in a horrifying and dystopic advance of militarised police action.
00:02:57.000It's a really, really funny take on that story, you'll love it.
00:03:00.000And later on, Annie Mashon, who's a former MI5 spy, will be with us talking about Apple's secret deals with China.
00:03:06.000So in a sense, we're giving you news that you won't get anywhere else, and hopefully in a way that's inclusive and loving and amusing.
00:03:14.000Hit rumble, if you would, because that helps us in ways that I can... I like to think that hitting rumble is like a G-spot, you know?
00:03:21.000And if you hit that, we're going to have some sort of orgasm.
00:03:49.000And I think they're really interesting figures in one way in that they are analogous to ordinary royalty and they are the sort of cartilage between contemporary celebrity and traditional aristocratic royalty which both perform the same cultural function really of giving you sort of icons and idols to look towards that I reckon are distracting rather than aspirational.
00:04:10.000Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments what you think.
00:04:13.000What's the function of Harry and Meghan?
00:04:15.000And does it concern you that these stories get so much coverage when there are other stories?
00:04:22.000There's been immunity granted to Mohammed bin Salman, who is the Saudi leader who nutted off, I think is the correct phrase, that Jalal Khashoggi.
00:04:31.000That's a big use for the allegedly button there, Russ.
00:04:37.000I don't actually know that he did that.
00:04:39.000I just sort of said that as if it was an actual fact.
00:04:41.000What I do know as a fact is that when he was campaigning for election, Joe Biden said they would make Saudi Arabia a pariah.
00:04:47.000But now they've just sanctioned the immunity that's been granted to Mohammed bin Salman around that alleged involvement around that murder.
00:04:56.000So we'll talk about that a little bit.
00:04:58.000But before we get into all of this stuff, I want to see how Vladimir Putin is today.
00:05:03.000Have you noticed that Vladimir Putin, he's like the illest dictator in history.
00:05:08.000Every single day, he got a new illness.
00:05:10.000Yesterday, it was rather, it was quite blunt.
00:06:08.000And do you think that's, like, the traditional smearing of enemies that takes place in the media?
00:06:13.000And just to clarify, in case there's an idiot watching, because sometimes one tunes in, we're not saying, like, that Vladimir Putin's a great guy and that the war in Ukraine's a good thing.
00:06:35.000Anyway, who are America and the American mainstream press to criticise Putin for having a bit of a puffy face and a little bit of a, for a little bit of what I call a downstairs shortcut.
00:06:48.000They spoke about it yesterday and the press said that it caused him, having a fall down five steps apparently before landing on his coccyx, or tailbone, thanks, it caused him to involuntarily defecate.
00:06:59.000Now, of course, involuntarily, it wasn't like voluntarily, he didn't land and then think, now's a good time to defecate.
00:07:17.000Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments.
00:07:19.000Also, who are America to condemn Vladimir Putin for simply having a puffy face and a warm gusset filled with brown body porridge when their own president is as senile as the day?
00:07:30.000And do you sometimes think that Joe Biden is the political equivalent of a Freudian slip, i.e.
00:07:35.000the revelation of decay And senescence that is being concealed in our crumbling empire is presenting itself involuntarily, like a Vladimir Putin shit, through the figure of dear old Joe Biden.
00:07:50.000Although this clip, I would say, Gareth, is the funniest he's ever dealt with, his own fumbling and a mumbling.
00:08:41.000Among the countless ways that you're being distracted from the reality that takes place both within you and without of you is via the old Harry and Meghan story.
00:08:51.000I think they've released a Netflix documentary.
00:08:53.000Now, although we're unwilling to contribute to their... Quiet, you.
00:08:57.000See, Amazon continually... I don't like it when it makes that ding noise, do you?
00:09:04.000I'll pay attention to you when I need to.
00:09:08.000We're being invited to participate in the sort of foray, a melee of publicity that surrounds Meghan and Harry, but we will only do it with a wry, sideward glance and with a critical eye.
00:09:22.000Not like how it's being covered on... Is this CBS?
00:09:24.000Have a look at this bit of news reporting.
00:09:44.000They talk for a long while about timing without ever mentioning how this timing is beneficial.
00:09:50.000And not once do they mention the fact that Pfizer have misled us over child vaccines, or that railway workers have been lied to by the Biden administration, or that immunity is being granted to the Saudi Arabian Prince Mohammed bin Salman around his alleged involvement in the execution of a journalist.
00:10:10.000They get through the whole broadcast without mentioning that.
00:10:12.000They just talk about celebrity prince and princess Meghan and Harry.
00:10:17.000And then the timing is so interesting, Kier, because just really about an hour ago, Netflix dropped the trailer for Harry and Meghan's highly anticipated Netflix docuseries.
00:10:26.000We were on the set and we all just watched it together.
00:11:46.000But I suppose ultimately, what interests me most about this story is why we are continually drawn to it.
00:11:55.000These apparently vacuous stories are pillars in our prison of idiocy.
00:12:01.000Have a look, right, in the last 24 hours, the number of stories about Harry and Meghan versus stories about that Saudi prince being granted immunity.
00:13:49.000I just want to let you know that in the latter part of this show, we're talking to Annie Mashon, a former spy turned whistleblower, about all that gear that's been going on in China.
00:13:56.000We're going to be giving you a brilliant, brilliant insight into the new robot murderer dogs that they'll be employing in San Francisco.
00:14:04.000Robotised killing machines patrolling your streets.
00:14:07.000We've got so much more to talk about, so if you are watching us on YouTube right now, Go over to Rumble where you can see us completely uncensored.
00:14:14.000And we use that lack of censorship not to bring about hate speech, not to be mean to people.
00:14:42.000You said earlier, too confidently in my view, that you had points to make about Harry and Meghan.
00:14:48.000I guess people have kind of asked me all day, what do you think about this?
00:14:51.000More members of the team, what do you reckon about this?
00:14:54.000My response has just been, ugh, I'm just not, this is just ridiculous distraction, I don't care.
00:14:59.000I mean, the thing, my personal feeling is, now they exist outside the royal family, they're just, they're a product, like everything else, they're celebrities, like everything else, so the fact that they've got a Netflix documentary, well loads of people do, I don't think it makes that much difference.
00:15:11.000The main, what we, obviously we talked about it being a distraction from other stories, such as the immunity for the Saudi prince, but also even if you just look at Stories around the Royal Family and Netflix.
00:15:23.000Netflix made a record 2.8 billion profits in 2020.
00:15:26.000They paid a tax rate of less than 1% due to offshore accounts.
00:15:29.000Now, no one's telling that story about Netflix because they're all talking about this.
00:15:33.000With the Royal Family, I'd rather know the fact that rather than care about Harry and Meghan, that the Royal Family were able to veto laws through their connections with government, that King Charles didn't pay an inheritance tax on a massive wealth of ÂŁ1.2 billion.
00:15:45.000You know, it's... These are the stories that we're not being really... Well, we're not talking about while we're Talking about this.
00:15:52.000And why is no one talking about mouse trousers?
00:15:55.000Which remain impossible to acquire even in what we ridiculously call 2022.
00:16:00.000The Saudi immunity story that we keep referring to, I'll just give you a little more background of that, this is a result of my own tireless research that sometimes goes on long into the night.
00:16:10.000I'm not just googling mouse trousers, I'm an investigative journalist.
00:16:24.000A case against Saudi Arabia's Mohammed Bin Salman regarding the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi has been dismissed by a US judge not because he didn't look likely to be responsible.
00:16:36.000But because he's been granted immunity.
00:16:37.000He can't be granted immunity from anything other than justice though.
00:16:40.000That doesn't mean he might not bang his coccyx and shit himself.
00:16:43.000You simply can't conduct that at a judicial level.
00:16:46.000Biden promised that he would hold the Saudi Crown Prince accountable for the murder if he was elected president and suggested that they would be a global pariah.
00:16:55.000At the time of granting immunity in the U.S., the U.S.
00:16:58.000wanted Saudi Arabia to turn up oil production.
00:17:01.000In August, the Biden administration approved a potential multibillion-dollar arms sales to Saudi Arabia worth an estimated $3.5 billion.
00:17:15.000The other thing about sort of the Meghan and Harry story is, in essence, these figures become the occupants of the simulacrum that Baudrillard talks about in his, you know, Simulacrum and Simulacra and that book.
00:18:07.000Disneyland is there to conceal the fact that it is the real country of real America, which Disneyland, just as real prisons, are there to conceal the fact that it is the social in its entirety, in all its banal omnipresence, which is carcerial.
00:18:20.000Like, what he's saying is that the presence of Disneyland as a kind of imaginary space, as a pretend space, what it does is it makes you think that I'm in Disneyland now.
00:18:51.000And I like what Baudrillard's saying here about prisons.
00:18:55.000If you're in, like dear Julian Assange, you're in a Category A prison, you have extremely limited freedom.
00:19:00.000If you're in a B Category prison, I'm using sort of the British terminology, you have slightly more freedom, a bit of yard time, access to some utilities.
00:19:07.000If you're in a C Category prison, you might even be allowed to go out sometimes and have a job down the town.
00:19:12.000But this masks the fact that we are all contained within systems of incarceration.
00:19:18.000If you want to understand how limited your freedom is, try acting impulsively.
00:19:22.000And I don't mean in terms of interfering with the freedom or rights of others.
00:19:26.000I mean truly expressing yourself, not paying tax, not participating in financial systems.
00:19:31.000If the pandemic revealed anything to us, it was just how easy it was for them to impose fervent authority upon us.
00:20:03.000And say, like, if you watch like I did, like a mad heritage pornographer, I watch, like, The Crown.
00:20:10.000Like, that's, we recognize it's sort of fictionalized, scripted, dramatized reality.
00:20:14.000This documentary that they're making will be sort of a small, like a limited insight into a version of their lives that's favorable to their interests and their relationship with broadcasters and Commercial partners.
00:20:26.000The Disneyland quote for our girl is Baudrillard, the philosopher Baudrillard.
00:20:31.000Alex Overton, how can we move forward to the next step?
00:20:33.000I've told you many, many times and I'll continue to tell you.
00:20:36.000Individual awakening, community activism and critiquing the establishment modalities through the pillars of government, big business and the state.
00:20:45.000Here's another mainstream media news story now from Amazon on the halo rise, which I think is a new bit of tech that Amazon have introduced.
00:21:00.000Well, that's not going to happen, Gal.
00:21:01.000It's going to be Halo Rise watching you while you sleep.
00:21:04.000The thing is, is that if you watch this broadcast, it moves between sort of promotion, apparent critique, but ultimately sort of compliance with the agenda of Amazon.
00:21:13.000And when we reveal CNBC's, the nature of CNBC's relationship with Amazon, that will become clear.
00:21:35.000John Ford, the broadcaster, who I quite like, you'll see him in a minute, he's doing an item called On the Other Hand, which I suppose the nature of this is that he's presenting an alternative view.
00:23:48.000What relationship does CNBC have with Amazon that you're so directly promoting their product?
00:23:53.000The sleep tracking device joins smart home devices including doorbell cameras that watch and listen outside your house, smart speakers that listen and sometimes watch inside your house, and drones and robots that can fly or roll around to keep you informed of what's going on.
00:25:19.000That means it has almost a tide and certainly momentum.
00:25:22.000It was like Vladimir Putin, wasn't it?
00:25:24.000Oh, flowing straight out of... Well, you bang a man on a cockstick, he's gonna react.
00:25:29.000Brothers, we got trackers called Cookies, right?
00:25:30.000Which I'll point out is creepy, because the witch from Hansel and Gretel must have come up with... Why is he doing all this?
00:25:37.000He shouldn't mention that... He shouldn't go into folklore and mythology when talking about Amazon.
00:25:42.000And he should be querying the nature of Cookies, because I think CNBC and most mainstream media companies now make a significant amount of their revenue from handing... from packaging up your data and controlling your data.
00:26:33.000I don't know how he's ever going to get back from this promontory of reason that he's built for himself, this critique of the mainstream, how's he ever going to get back from it?
00:26:41.000Well, he will remember he's paying his wages.
00:26:47.000Can you use that argument to make any technology seem, any new innovation, seem evil or prying?
00:26:53.000I shall be saying with my little neck, China is some sort of abomination simply because I folded up the front of my neck there to be my own private little sex place.
00:27:02.000You could say any technology is a kind of monster.
00:27:05.000People were suspicious once of pencils and tractors.
00:27:10.000A long time ago, Adam Curtis, the filmmaker, said to me that we'd be invited into this sort of state of managerialism, that ultimately our role is to sort of monitor our own health continually.
00:27:19.000That politics has become managed decline.
00:27:22.000There are no true visionaries in politics now saying we can We can completely reorganize society.
00:27:27.000Our models of nationalism, our corporate and economic models can all be radically altered.
00:27:31.000We can have a deep spiritual awakening.
00:27:33.000No, instead, politicians like Blair, Clinton, Obama, Bush, and I would argue and contest even figures like Trump and Biden participate in the same managed decline within a narrow framework of ideas.
00:27:46.000And we as individuals are asked to participate through technology in just a sort of personal managerialism.
00:27:53.000What about connecting to who you actually are?
00:27:56.000What about connecting at depth to the deep truth within you and other people?
00:28:01.000This is being evaded, avoided, neglected, abandoned.
00:28:06.000Now I think it's time for us to give, you know, they may be providing a sort of a hokey and I would say somewhat faux alternative perspective within the framework of their show through their device and item on the other hand.
00:28:18.000But let's offer yet another hand and a third hand.
00:28:52.000So that's one commercial connection between Amazon and CNBC.
00:28:55.000In May this year, Amazon and NBCUniversal announced a major new product placement deal that would allow adverts to be digitally inserted into television shows.
00:29:05.000So CNBC is a division of NBC Universal News Group, which is a subsidiary of NBC Universal, which is in excuse me, in turn owned by Comcast.
00:29:14.000Comcast expanded its partnership with Amazon Web Services in 2018.
00:29:18.000Comcast signed a deal with Amazon in 2021 to stream their films and streaming network Peacock lands on Amazon Fire TV soon.
00:29:25.000So that's just like some of the sort of over connections.
00:29:29.000Thank you, Carl SN, for Congratulating and commending me on the research.
00:29:38.000Lie in bed at night with a furred hand lashing around at my groin?
00:29:42.000The other thing as well is that this is all about data isn't it?
00:29:44.000Ultimately we get to, you know, we know that they're monitoring our data and this is just another way of taking, cleaning even more data from us.
00:29:59.000But it's interesting, this story about Pfizer's Albert Baller misleading the public on child vaccines, because at a time when we're told everything's about data and that it's about science and the whole reason, the whole justification for anything now, isn't it?
00:30:13.000It's, oh, well, we've got the data to back it up.
00:30:25.000We're told, but in the case of Albert Baller, so he's been rapped by the UK's pharmaceutical watchdog for making misleading statements about children's vaccines.
00:30:32.000So basically he said on the BBC, who are, you know, our state-funded media, funded by us, the public.
00:30:42.000But actually our guest yesterday was talking about the fact that actually it's basically a pipeline from government to the BBC.
00:30:48.000You can watch that conversation on Rumble right now.
00:30:50.000It's a fantastic conversation between us and Matt Kennard.
00:30:54.000Well, he was just saying that there's a kind of direct line between government and even the BBC.
00:30:58.000The BBC, we kind of, in this country, kind of hold up to a different set of standards than we would, like, say, corporate media.
00:31:05.000But it turns out that, well, according to Matt, it's exactly the same.
00:31:08.000Anyway, so Albert Baller said on the BBC, there is no doubt in my mind that the benefits completely are in favour of vaccinating youngsters and that kids will have severe symptoms of COVID.
00:31:18.000But the prescription medicines code of practice authority called dr borders remarks about the children's vaccine disgracefully misleading and extremely promotional in nature saying the margin of benefit was considered too small and citing the low risk to healthy children from the virus so but it didn't matter fortnight later ministers gave the green light to for youngsters to be given a dose of the vaccine so In the time where we're told everything's about data, it's all about data monitoring, everything that Amazon are taking is all about data.
00:31:44.000In this case, this is about Albert Boller going on the BBC and saying, I feel like, in my opinion, there's no doubt that the benefits outweigh anything else.
00:31:53.000These are hunches that then get greenlit by the government.
00:31:56.000So they use this sort of data that is convenient and they exclude data that is inconvenient.
00:32:02.000Ultimately what we have learned is that if you look at the relationships between the state and corporations, if you look at the relationships between big tech and the government, and if you look at where power is consolidating either financially or through regulatory ability, then these things start to make more sense.
00:32:20.000The reason that it feels like we live in this time without values and principles is because there are no values and principles.
00:32:25.000That's why you can condemn people protesting against lockdown in the UK or US or Canada and celebrate protesters against lockdown in China.
00:32:37.000That's what out here the news was yesterday.
00:32:40.000We looked at that in depth and we looked at how WEF-affiliated politicians like Trudeau
00:32:44.000and Rishi Sunak introduced tyrannical measures in their own countries, whether that's anti-protest
00:32:50.000laws or the ability to freeze the bank accounts of people that supported Canadian trucker
00:32:54.000protests, while applauding Chinese protesters.
00:32:58.000What that suggests is a total lack of a moral center or any principles.
00:33:03.000Principles means there's a sort of a firmness, there is something you will not do or that
00:33:06.000you absolutely will do and you don't change it just because it's convenient.
00:33:11.000Now I suppose one of the things that's sanctioned about the relationship between the citizenry
00:33:15.000and their law enforcement officers is that it's ultimately, I think it says on the door
00:33:19.000in your country America, of their cars to protect and to serve.
00:33:22.000So this idea of protection and service is meant to be baked in, instilled deeply into law enforcement.
00:33:29.000They're meant to be members of the community, helping the community.
00:33:33.000There are a lot of people on what you would still call the left, perhaps because you're not up to the crazy state of evolution that we're up to, that are very anti the police.
00:33:40.000And there are people on the right that are pro-police.
00:33:42.000And I'm sure there's sort of distinctions, differences in this odd cauldron of opinions that flow all over the show.
00:33:48.000But what I think is fascinating now is the ongoing militarisation of the police force.
00:33:55.000The police force are becoming, in a sense, a wing of the army.
00:34:01.000Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments.
00:34:03.000Do you sometimes feel that the state is getting ready for further uprisings when they control free speech, when they limit the ability to protest, when they turn the domestic population against one another, and then start arming The police force with terrifying technology.
00:34:18.000And even myself, I was surprised, Gareth, when we were making this piece of content by the idea that drones are in fact robot killers.
00:34:26.000I'm so used to the idea that drones are sort of like slick little white iPod things.
00:34:31.000I think of them as like iPods of the sky, just delivering little playlists at an Afghan wedding.
00:34:37.000What you need is a little... Why don't you listen to I've Had the Time of My Life?
00:34:41.000I'm sorry you're innocent but I'm bystanders and it was a bomb.
00:34:45.000So in a way we've introduced the technological murder of innocent people into foreign territories and now you can enjoy it at home in San Francisco.
00:34:53.000This is of course the story that San Francisco police have just legalized the use of murderous robots for law enforcement.
00:35:36.000Hello there, you six million awakening wonders.
00:35:38.000Thanks for joining me on this limitless voyage into the light within.
00:35:42.000Surely now we must awaken, for if we don't awaken now, we may not get the chance of centralizing forces, consolidate their power, inculcate the population, and now arm police forces.
00:36:00.000I wish it was a conspiracy theory because I live on this planet with you.
00:36:03.000If you don't subscribe to this channel yet, subscribe right now and turn on the notification bell because I'll tell you there's more than one evil robot in this story and the algorithm is not your buddy.
00:36:12.000The US military has been killing people with robots for decades now.
00:36:16.000So it's not all bad news, and the nation's local police now seem eager to get in on the action.
00:36:20.000Drone strikes abroad have become so commonplace that the mainstream news media barely bothers to cover them anymore.
00:36:26.000In fact, I don't even think of it like that, do you?
00:36:28.000I don't think of a drone strike as robots are killing human beings.
00:36:32.000I think of it as Well, it's good that they've got those drone strikes because they're killing all those terrorists.
00:36:38.000Look at that weird singing and dancing!
00:36:40.000So when they're killed by drones, you think of it as just the simple, rational dispatch of some loonies, rather than humans, like you, are being killed by robots.
00:36:50.000Oh, they're passing laws to do that here.
00:36:52.000For years, the military has also been using bomb disposal robots, which are basically glorified radio-controlled cars with tank treads that can be used to safely dismantle explosives from a distance.
00:37:02.000It's a shame that the population is so agitated.
00:37:04.000If only we could sort of somehow defuse that by perhaps having a more equal and fairer society.
00:37:17.000These robots have proliferated across local law enforcement in recent years as military technology so often does.
00:37:24.000Now notice that elsewhere in the world we are seeing new protest laws introduced that prevent people coming together to protest.
00:37:30.000It means that your internet access could be denied if you're alleged to, you know, suspected of being a protester.
00:37:36.000Now we're seeing the arming of the police force in military style.
00:37:41.000So when people say, hey, you don't think that what's going to happen is like various new reasons for lockdown, climate lockdown, disease lockdowns, then like the inability to protest becoming normalised, and then the arming of the police force.
00:37:53.000That'd be weird if all those things came together like they already are on the same planet under the same ideology, because that would mean you wouldn't be able to do anything.
00:38:01.000And the only way to oppose that is right now.
00:38:03.000And we're only going to be able to oppose that if we're willing to overcome our superficial, ridiculous differences and unify against increasingly terrifying centralised power.
00:38:38.000Police officers in a major American city have been given the authority to use remote-controlled robots that are capable of using deadly force in emergency situations.
00:38:48.000At least it's not that evil little tippy-tappy clip-clop dog one.
00:38:53.000San Francisco police are assuring the public that robots armed with explosives would only be used sparingly.
00:39:00.000We're not going to use them sparingly.
00:39:02.000What do you think we're going to use them willy-nilly in a laissez-faire manner for a laugh on the flip of a coin for a giggle when we felt like it?
00:39:30.000We have somebody who's shooting, killing people, a sniper, etc.
00:39:36.000If you have, like, a robot that's killing people because, I don't know, because of brutality and increasing authoritarianism, why should I go out there when I've got a tap dance show to work on?
00:39:47.000I'm gonna send out the best tap dancer of them all!
00:39:51.000We're gonna do everything we can to stop the threat.
00:39:54.000Firstly, I'm gonna speak in this very arch way that in itself should diffuse a lot of problems, but if I don't work, I'm afraid we're gonna have to send in old Klip Klop.
00:40:04.000The city's board of supervisors voted overwhelmingly in favor of the idea Monday night.
00:40:37.000What I would ask you to consider is you might one day find yourself on the wrong side of a conversation.
00:40:43.000A conversation that will be censored through increasing censorship laws.
00:40:46.000You will not be able to use your civil liberty to protest because those laws are being radically altered.
00:40:51.000And they're not even going to have to put a police officer at risk because old Klip Klop's coming to town to spray you into oblivion like an evil little Gene Kelly.
00:41:00.000Currently, there are more than 1,000 robots and unmanned vehicles in use by police departments, primarily by bomb squads.
00:41:08.000The policies in cities like San Francisco... San Francisco?
00:42:08.000In September, the Oakland Police Department was seeking permission from city officials to load lethal shotgun rounds into their bomb defusing robots.
00:42:15.000As well as defusing the bomb, could they fire off a few rounds as a warning to other potential people that might plant bombs?
00:43:12.000I believe that you do require some kind of community-oriented Guidance and regulation.
00:43:17.000But I think it should be strongly connected to the community, made up of people that live in that community, not, I would prefer this, ideally, given the choice, not old clip-clop, clip-clopping down the sidewalk, rat-a-tat-tatting off of rounds, based on a poem or a drawing, rather than a very specific plan.
00:43:32.000Whistleblower Daniel Hale is in prison for leaking information on US drone warfare, including that during one five-month stretch of an operation in Afghanistan, nearly 90% of the people killed were not the intended targets.
00:44:19.000The language governing police use of force policies tends to be extremely broad, including for the use of robots.
00:44:25.000While departments often claim that military technology will only be used in rare circumstances, the actual rules are often written to give cops leeway to do virtually whatever they want with the technology.
00:44:34.000And so, in conclusion, the bill is passed.
00:44:37.000You can do virtually whatever you want.
00:44:40.000So we could just shoot people indiscriminately?
00:45:05.000Cops could use these weapons to kill people remotely so long as they claim to fear for their lives.
00:45:09.000We're not going to get any jittery cops about the place.
00:45:12.000They're going to be a bag of nerves from tending a clip-clop.
00:45:15.000Creates the jitters in the most stoic of people.
00:45:17.000In March, the Biden administration was criticized for encouraging local governments to use American Rescue Plan Act or ARPA funds, a 1.9 trillion pandemic relief aid We've got to relieve people of this terrible, legitimate medical emergency.
00:45:39.000Yeah, like we're going to need ventilators and hospital beds and nurses and to pay key workers good money.
00:45:56.000Jasmine, the organizing director for Community Movement Builder, said, The government at this point is honestly preparing for war and retaliation against the working class.
00:46:09.000They treat us as if they're an occupying force in our communities, she said.
00:46:13.000I think the technology that they're funding speaks for that.
00:46:15.000The state relies on the police to enforce capitalism, to protect property, and to essentially ensure that people are funneled into exploitative labor practices.
00:46:24.000Do you think that this is a step in the right direction?
00:46:27.000You've had the wealth transfer, you've had the enforced lockdowns, you've had the foreclosure of civil liberties and protest laws, and now you're having the massive armoring of the police.
00:46:37.000Again, this is not a criticism of the many law enforcement personnel who are serving their community lovingly.
00:46:44.000I would say the best way to maintain the delicate balance between law enforcement and community relations is not For introducing killer robot dogs into the street to spray potential protesters with bullets in nearly any situation.
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00:48:31.000Oh, will you not be satisfied till I get an actual spy in here, a whistleblower, a woman who's willing to reveal the deep state secrets that hold us all back, a woman who spends her time celebrating other whistleblowers like Daniel Howe tagged in that story for his revelations.
00:48:47.000Well, Gareth and everyone watching, in Annie Mashon, we are about to fulfill the pledge that I just Sarcastically made.
00:49:43.000Apple doing secret deals with China, because if they are, our viewers demand to know.
00:49:48.000And how can you have sort of US-based tech giants having the economic relationships that they have with China when there's all these sanctions going on and when we're getting ourselves ready, I thought, for some sort of Armageddon showdown with China?
00:50:03.000I mean, Apple has been based in China for many, many years.
00:50:05.000I mean, most of its factories where there are, you know, Appalling conditions for the workers have been based in China for many, many years anyway.
00:50:13.000And they also cut a deal by investing in China in 2016 to the tune of $275 billion to get the goodwill of the Chinese government in order to carry on having these bases.
00:50:25.000But the current thing, of course, is that Apple has now cut a very shady deal to stop the use of its technology by the protesters against the Covid lockdown.
00:50:35.000So they are effectively using their corporate technology to stop citizens freely protesting about situations in their country that might make a difference to their lives going forward.
00:50:47.000It is disgusting because the mainstream media are using this opportunity to laud the protesters while, when there were protests in our countries, they condemned them out of hand and indeed used technology, in the instance of Canada, to impede the funding of comparable events.
00:51:05.000And actually though, while enjoying the fanfare of apparently supporting freedom, organisations with close ties to the US government, the UK government, are deliberately impeding the protesters' ability to communicate.
00:51:20.000Can you just tell me specifically how, because I don't fully understand it, because I'm probably not clever enough, I don't know.
00:51:25.000It's just stopping the free flow of information in more secure ways.
00:51:29.000The key point I would take from this, though, is the moral relativism with the West.
00:51:33.000Because if we go back to the Edward Snowden disclosures back in 2013, and his very first disclosure, which was an operation called PRISM, It turned out that all these big American tech corporations had backdoors built into them by this prison program developed by the NSA and GCHQ in the UK.
00:51:50.000And therefore they were spying on everyone.
00:51:55.000And people seem to forget this, that the West does just as bad things.
00:52:00.000And they can apply that now to people who might be protesting in the West, who are now being reclassified as domestic extremists, or potentially as terrorists.
00:52:09.000So, you know, there is a moral equivalence there that people seem to be losing sight of when it comes to criticising China.
00:52:16.000The key question is, why are they going after China now at this point?
00:52:19.000And that's a really interesting question.
00:52:21.000Right, well, given that I've clearly not done enough research, I'll simply take your guidance on the next one.
00:52:28.000Annie, I've got something to ask you now that is going to surprise you and probably put you on the back foot a bit and make you realise that At last, you've been confronted with your intellectual equal.
00:52:42.000And if you don't tell me, then I don't think you're a very good guest at all.
00:52:47.000No, I'm probably crap, and that's a very good question.
00:52:51.000No, I mean, my perspective would be that Russia, China, and to a certain extent, Iran, have been sort of palling up over the last couple of decades.
00:53:02.000China, particularly, has been very aggressive in building what's called the, I always want to call it the Belt and Braces Initiative, but it's the Belt and Road Initiative, otherwise known as the New Silk Roads, making trade deals all around the planet.
00:53:14.000And with the size of its economy, despite COVID, it is presenting a threat to particularly U.S., but also wider Western interests.
00:53:23.000So I think this is why, one, Russia's been in this sort of Western crosshairs for a long time, as well as its odious behavior vis-a-vis Ukraine.
00:53:37.000Obama spent years building up the military bases around the Pacific Rim because of the Chinese threat.
00:53:44.000But actually it's an economic threat because China has been very effective at building up these new international connections international trade routes and access to Very rare earth minerals in countries that can provide those, which is needed for all our technology, particularly in the African continent.
00:54:04.000So I think this is why America, particularly, but also its Western vassals have been pushing back and saying China's a big threat, China's a big threat.
00:54:12.000It's so extraordinary to find out that there are covert and submerged narratives that, while they may remain to a large degree ulterior, are actually what dictate geopolitical action.
00:54:28.000These actions, for example, you know, as you said, Putin's odious actions in Ukraine are always cited as morally underwritten.
00:54:38.000But on some level that just doesn't make sense to us.
00:54:41.000We've seen how our governments have behaved historically and we know how they behave domestically.
00:54:46.000We already recognize the degree to which they have been corporatized.
00:54:49.000So when they present moral arguments as the basis for military action, it doesn't seem right.
00:54:54.000How is it, Annie, that information as significant as that which you've just relayed about these sort of new covert wars that are undergirded by access to resources, in this case mineral resources, how is it that this information is profflated?
00:55:14.000Well, it's not in the interests of big corporations, I would suggest, particularly the big western tech corporations.
00:55:22.000I mean, there are smaller corporations, particularly coming out of the EU, that are very keen to try and build green technology, you know, sustainable technology that does not exploit the peoples in Africa and can actually provide them with a decent living.
00:55:36.000So, for example, there's something called the Fair Cobalt Alliance.
00:55:40.000Cobalt is key to building all our technology based in the Congo.
00:55:44.000And this is trying to get children out of what is effectively slave labor to extract these minerals.
00:56:10.000And I think, you know, any support you can give to organisations like that would be greatly received by them.
00:56:14.000Do you think that... OK, we'll try to... We'll do our best, won't we, Gareth?
00:56:19.000Coming back to what Annie was saying previously about China and the U.S., I just find it really interesting that at a time when you have U.S.
00:56:26.000government and Western leaders saying that they support these Chinese protesters, whilst we know from what Annie's just revealed that actually they're all about impeding Chinese economy, doing anything to stop the growth of the Chinese economy.
00:56:42.000And at the same time you have Apple, who purport to be a we're all about values for progressive values, when actually what we know is Apple are in the pockets of China and that their relations with China are so important that actually they'll do anything that the Chinese government want, i.e.
00:56:59.000turning off the airdrop feature to allow this process to continue.
00:57:03.000And to share this footage between them, i.e.
00:57:22.000Sorry, can I just add a point there as well?
00:57:24.000If people want to pursue this subject, looking into green tech and environmental and sustainable governance, I think it's the official title.
00:57:33.000There is a track on a forum that I was very pleased to be involved in helping to organize, which took place a month ago, called the World Ethical Data Forum.
00:57:40.000And anyone can find it on worldethicaldata.org.
00:58:08.000So if you think about it, over the course of this conversation, what's been revealed to us is that there is a submerged agenda that is at odds with the mainstream narrative.
00:58:19.000I suppose the reason that the West can support the Chinese protesters through the media is it ultimately destabilises If it doesn't actually destabilise Chinese state power, at least it's a useful tool in presenting China in an unfavourable light.
00:58:34.000But I was struck for a moment, Gareth, actually, when you were talking, and I'd love to hear Annie's perspective on this, that we could find ourselves in a position where Apple and the US state are at odds with one another because of Apple's compliance with Chinese edicts and the appetite within the US to penalise and impede China.
00:58:59.000I think that it's been shown over the last few years when, for example, the American House of Representatives and Congress and people like that have tried to call people like Zuckerberg or Tim Cook from Apple or whatever to give evidence to be held to account that even at government level, even within the USA, these companies are too big to control.
00:59:20.000Do you remember when there was the financial crash?
00:59:22.000It was that banks are too big to fail.
00:59:24.000These companies are too big to control.
00:59:28.000I think it's, I suppose, encouraging that Facebook, for example, turned itself into meta and tried to get everyone into their metaverse.
00:59:37.000I think it's encouraging that people are becoming more aware of the threats to their human rights and their privacy and their freedom of expression online, because they become more and more distrustful of these big tech corporations in the way that many people have become very distrustful of the old mainstream media.
00:59:54.000Because they know that can be controlled, too.
00:59:56.000And also that they look at Twitter, what's going on there at the moment with the Twitter files, the fact that they were being controlled, too, to a certain extent by elements within the US government.
01:00:08.000So there is this huge disconnect between people who wish to ingest information that is truthful and valid and can inform them and can help them build their communities and their societies and their democracies or protect thereby.
01:00:23.000And what is being actually fed to them by the old media, by the new media and by the tech giants?
01:00:29.000So the key question is, what can we do about it?
01:00:33.000I'm not going to ask that one, because I want to ask a little more about the over-condemnation of Elon Musk in much of the mainstream media, presumably perhaps because of the entrenching state interest within Twitter prior to his incumbency.
01:00:52.000But one of the things we've been pondering this week on our show, Annie, is that How much of a radical disruptor Elon Musk can really be when there are such strong economic ties between him elsewhere within his organization like through SpaceX and Tesla?
01:01:09.000And so I just want to put that before you.
01:01:12.000Is what's happening at Twitter truly radical or ultimately will this be framed within conventional corporate interests?
01:01:21.000I'm sure that there are various, shall we call them deep state?
01:01:25.000I mean, in Britain, I call it the establishment, planning to corral him.
01:01:30.000But he is such a wildcard, he might be very difficult to do that too.
01:01:35.000And also, he has stated frequently that he is a free speech fundamentalist.
01:01:39.000So of course, he's now being excoriated as someone who is just going to allow, you know, all these conspiracy theorists and extremists to have free speech.
01:01:46.000Well, actually, it allows everyone to have free speech.
01:01:50.000And so long as you're not inciting hate or inciting violence or threatening death, then free speech should be a sacrosanct, it's a basic human right, it should be sacrosanct.
01:02:00.000I think the analogy I would see, and I'm by no means in any way a supporter of Donald Trump, But you know, when he was elected way back in 2015, and he was sworn in 2016, and one of his statements was he wanted to drain the swamp.
01:02:17.000And what I found fascinating at that point was how the intelligence agencies, the secret state within America, and I wasn't the only one, I was talking to a lot of American former intelligence people at that time, sort of corralled the wagons around him in order to stop him being effective in trying to do that.
01:02:35.000The most obvious example was accusing him of the whole Russiagate thing, being in collusion with the Russians, which is all based on a pack of lies coming out of a former MI6 officer, Christopher Steele.
01:02:44.000So watching this process of how the powers that be can corral and can control people who do want to break the paradigm is one Slightly exhilarating.
01:02:56.000Two, very depressing when you see that it works.
01:02:59.000And three, yeah, people don't want to know.
01:03:02.000So this is the key thing about any activism, any campaigning, and I've been doing this for years, is not only about getting the information shared, but getting the people to care about why these fundamental issues are so important.
01:03:17.000It's so illuminating to spend time with you.
01:03:21.000Annie is the author of the book, The Privacy Mission, Achieving Ethical Data for Our Lives Online.
01:03:26.000In this brief conversation, we learned a great deal about submerged narratives, potential conflict of interest between global corporations and the American state.
01:03:35.000You also would have had the opportunity to learn words like panoptical, odious and excoriated.
01:03:41.000An interesting conversation with a fantastic spy who is no doubt to some degree employed because of her giant spying eyes.
01:03:50.000Annie Masham, thank you so much for joining us.
01:03:52.000I do hope that you'll come here again in person soon.
01:03:55.000Thank you so much for sharing this data with us and thank you for your dedication and devotion to what you do professionally.
01:04:02.000It's a wonderful service you're doing, humanity.
01:04:10.000This is all that we have time for on Stay Free, even though we actually could continue broadcasting as long as we wanted to, but we also are subject to some laws ourselves, like employment laws.
01:04:21.000You can't just make people work all day and all night, can you?
01:05:02.000So on the show tomorrow we've got MIA or Maya.
01:05:05.000She's on giving us all sorts of extraordinary insights into what Annie would call the establishment and what you over there in America would call the deep state.
01:05:12.000What it's like from on the inside of the celebrity machine and what I'll call sort of deep Like, shamanic revelations that she's sort of had and some of her new work that she plays too.