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00:02:19.000Well, I suppose by consulting various warmongers.
00:02:22.000Those of you that are American, you'll know what Lindsey Graham's all about.
00:02:26.000In spite of having the glassy eyes of our Lord Christ, he seems to crave nothing more than sweet Lady War. Let's have a listen to him advocating for a
00:02:38.000little bit more of the old chaos. Later, hey, you've got to stay with us, we've got Kim Iverson, she's
00:02:43.000going to be on the show later, and once we click over to being exclusively on Rumble,
00:02:46.000we'll be telling you all sorts of crazy, wacky stuff about January the 6th. I mean,
00:02:51.000significantly and importantly, what led to that particular event, and are the media exploiting
00:02:58.000Also, one of the main things we're asking today is, is the world in so much trouble that we're going to have to turn to Donald Trump if we want world peace?
00:03:06.000Let me know in the chat and the comments what you think.
00:03:08.000Also, we'll be talking about that financial crisis and how it is actually connected to 2008 and how actually bloody world taxpayers will be made to pay for it, if indirectly.
00:03:18.000But first, let's look at Lindsey Graham with his sweet, beautiful blue peepers advocating for an escalation in a global conflict because a drone had its feeling hurt.
00:04:50.000I'm getting emails and texts off all of these folks now.
00:04:53.000So it's like, you know, you've got to love people.
00:04:55.000That don't mean to say you have to agree with people's opinions.
00:04:58.000There are loads of subjects where we're not, or any of us, if we got into it, we're not going to agree with one another.
00:05:04.000But I tell you what, I'm starting to believe that the neo-liberal establishment don't care about the things they claim to, right down to stuff like social justice issues, environmental issues.
00:05:14.000I think it's all skullduggery, I really do.
00:05:17.000But listen, look at Sean Hannity, son of Irish folks who's worked hard to get where he is today, talking to this dude, Lindsey Graham, the glassy-eyed advocate for murder.
00:05:52.000What's important is a couple of years later a treaty agreed upon between Gorbachev and Reagan and it was ultimately instantiated by US Secretary of State James Baker.
00:06:01.000Neither the President nor I, that was under Bush by that time, neither the President nor I intend to extract any unilateral advantages from the processes that are taking place, not only for the Soviet Union but for other European countries as well.
00:06:12.000Because it's important to have guarantees that if the United States keeps its presence in Germany within the framework of NATO, not an inch of NATO's present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.
00:06:26.000How's it been going with that old infringement?
00:06:29.000Many's the inch, because even this drone was above the Black Sea.
00:06:32.000And the Black Sea, if you have a little look at a map or a globe, it decks the Russia.
00:06:36.000So whilst no-one's saying, oh, it's good that they booted that little devil out of the sky, I think it's a little sanctimonious to act like that drone's like some sort of Thomas the Tank Engine of the air that deserves naught but respect.
00:06:51.000Calling upon the name of Ronald Reagan because I guess that our man Lindsey Graham saying that he was a sort of a gung-ho militaristic president and geez maybe he was.
00:07:00.000The reality is that he sought a treaty between the Soviet Union as it then was and America.
00:07:07.000Because it's for the good of all humanity to not have ongoing and particularly military conflict between those two nations even if it's a proxy war.
00:07:16.000Also, though, if Reagan were alive now, I think what he would actually be saying is, can you please let me out of this coffin?
00:07:21.000Because he'd be feeling trapped, I think, about this time, wouldn't he, Gal?
00:07:52.000And this is what's happening all over the military.
00:07:55.000Have a look at this bit of footage on Fox News talking about the drone encounter.
00:08:00.000We told you yesterday how we're seeing, like, words like harassment being used, and reckless rapid fire, all of that, like, escalating the tension.
00:08:08.000Have a look at this, and then we'll tell you a fact or two about this, uh, Senator Joni Ernst, and we're- Right now, we are getting our first look at new- Whoa, what's that all about?
00:08:19.000That was- is that- that's a different clip, was it, that started playing?
00:08:21.000I think that might have been this one.
00:08:23.000Let's have a look, it wasn't, the counter wasn't going down.
00:08:25.000Video showing the moment a Russian jet dumps...
00:08:28.000It's different on our monitor, we got, like the counter's not going down guys, so have a look at what's on our
00:12:04.000YouTube, if you're watching us on YouTube, click over to watch us on Rumble, where we can do this freely, and then we'll use this opportunity to sort out whatever technical problems we're having.
00:12:12.000But now, let's have a deeper look at the Silicon Valley bank collapse.
00:12:16.000Let's have a look at whether or not taxpayers will really end up paying for it.
00:12:21.000We'll do the stuff about the global conflict at the back end of this and ask how we found ourselves in the bizarre situation where the best attempt at peace the world might be left with is in the, some say tiny, but others say normal, sized hands of Donald Trump.
00:12:47.000Hopefully it won't have been caused by deregulation.
00:12:49.000Hopefully you won't ultimately end up bailing them out even if it's tangentially.
00:12:54.000And hopefully some of the same people that were involved in the 2008 financial crisis won't be involved in this one.
00:13:02.000If there was a massive bank crash in 2008 that was caused by impropriety, deregulation, prioritizing financial interests above the interests of ordinary people that literally had some of the same protagonists involved, I'm not suggesting they're major players, but certainly people that worked at Lehman Brothers and Deutsche Bank now work at Silicon Valley Bank.
00:13:23.000Deregulation somewhat led to this situation and it's It's even possible that people will continue to profit in spite of the fact that, on the surface, loads of money has gone missing or disappeared.
00:13:35.000Let's get into this story in detail and see what it can teach us about the way that Washington and Wall Street interact, the symbiosis and revolving door between those two institutions and how, ultimately, even if Joe Biden literally goes on the TV and says taxpayers won't pay for it, if you change the word taxpayer to the word you, that might not be true.
00:13:55.000MSNBC, you know how those guys love me.
00:13:57.000Hopefully, they won't make this a partisan issue.
00:13:59.000They'll accept that there are a lot of institutional problems that need to be resolved that neither party are addressing.
00:14:05.000They won't simply say, this is the fault of one of the parties, you know, the one we don't like.
00:14:09.000Five years ago, when Republicans were last in control of the House of Representatives, they used the opportunity to roll back banking regulations put into place after the 2008 financial crisis.
00:14:20.000Do you see that what they're essentially saying is, this is Trump's fault.
00:14:30.000No, because already what he's not told you is in 2008, Barack Obama bailed out the banks after that financial crisis, meaning that the people that literally caused that problem were given the opportunity to participate in the resolution of that problem, as well as being exculpated from the blame that they ought rightly have shared in. No one went to
00:14:49.000prison, no one was penalised properly, whereas across America and across the world, ordinary
00:14:54.000people lost their homes, lost their jobs. Measurable, meaningful consequences. Were there
00:14:59.000measurable, meaningful consequences for the people that caused it? Let me know in the chat, let me
00:15:03.000know in the comments. Just in case you don't know everything about the complex and
00:15:06.000deliberately obtuse world of global finance, here are some facts. On Friday, California regulators shut
00:15:13.000down the Silicon Valley Bank, SVB, a top lender to venture capital firms and tech
00:15:18.000startups, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation took it over following a bank run by
00:15:24.000I think that means a load of people took out their money at once.
00:15:26.000On Sunday, regulators closed New York-based Signature Bank.
00:15:30.000During the pandemic, start-ups and technology companies enjoyed heady profits, some of which they deposited in the Silicon Valley Bank.
00:15:37.000Flush with their cash, the bank did what banks do, it kept a fraction on hand and invested the rest, putting a large share into long-dated treasury bonds that promised good returns when interest rates were low.
00:16:04.000The value of the Silicon Valley Bank's holdings of treasury bonds plummeted because newer bonds paid more interest.
00:16:09.000And as interest rates rose, the gusher of venture capital funding to start-up and tech companies slowed because venture funds had to pay more to borrow money.
00:16:18.000As a result, these start-up and tech companies had to withdraw more of their money from the bank to meet their payroll and other expenses.
00:16:25.000But the bank didn't have enough money on hand.
00:16:28.000Yesterday we also spoke to Ryan Grim, who talked about a text message chain where people that were invested in SVB, or at least had their money in SVB, communicated about drawing that money out prior to drawing it out.
00:16:40.000He believes that that should be investigated, that that's significant information.
00:16:43.000Why didn't they just draw out their money individually?
00:16:46.000Obviously any responsible reporting on this issue has to include the most recent and significant financial crash, the events of 2008, the political and financial ramifications of which are still being felt right now.
00:16:58.000Many people argue that Donald Trump is a consequence of Obama's significant decision to Bail out the banks in 2008.
00:17:04.000The way in our country Tony Blair will ever be tethered to his decision to invade Iraq along with George W Bush, your then president.
00:17:11.000The fact that Obama didn't say, no, I was voted in on a mandate of change and hope and supporting and standing up for ordinary people from across the political and social spectrum.
00:17:24.000He did what you would imagine he'd do.
00:17:25.000He bailed out the donors and the banks.
00:17:27.000Then they let people Set up new regulations and new rules that are involved in a crisis, the whole thing's exactly what you think.
00:17:33.000And one of the things that worries me when I learn about politics, and you let me know if you feel the same way, is the things that you often intuit, like, hold on a minute, do they just, like, bail out their donors and stuff?
00:17:44.000Obama endorsed the Wall Street bailout and appointed a team of Clinton-era economic advisors, led by Tim Geithner, who became Obama's Treasury Secretary, and Lawrence Summers, who became Director of the National Economic Council.
00:17:56.000These were the same people who, in the 90s, had prepared the way for the financial crisis by deregulating Wall Street.
00:18:02.000So in the 90s, under Clinton, they deregulated Wall Street, they were lobbied, presumably, and they went, oh yeah, alright, we'll let you trade in ways and bundle stuff together and make irresponsible bets and communicate in weird ways.
00:18:13.000Then the people that made those decisions were present in the Obama administration, so they're not gonna go, oh no, you know those ideas that we had then?
00:18:19.000They were bad ideas, why don't we put the people responsible for that in prison?
00:18:54.000Obama thereby shifted the cost of the banker's speculative binge onto ordinary Americans, deepening mistrust of a political system increasingly seen as rigged in favour of the rich and powerful.
00:19:04.000Now in a minute we'll watch Joe Biden's speech and he says things like, you know, capitalism's about risk.
00:19:09.000If you risk money and you lose money, that's on you, but it ain't on you.
00:19:13.000And he was obviously vice president when that happened.
00:19:16.000So what kind of credibility has he got when it comes to talking about financial crisis?
00:19:21.000What we see more and more in these investigations that we undertake here at Stay Free Media is that the system is rigged in order to support institutional financial and military industrial complex power and the skill of the political class and media class is managing that information so it seems like it's either the right thing to do or there's no option but to do it or the other people would have done it worse and indeed have done it worse in the past.
00:19:43.000So we just feel trapped in a situation where there's just no options but the fact is there are options.
00:19:56.000But to understand this story a little more deeply and with a little more clarity, we have to look at events in 2015 as well.
00:20:02.000Eight years before the second largest bank failure in American history occurred, SVB's president personally pressed Congress to reduce scrutiny of his financial institution.
00:20:12.000So eight years ago, the president of SVB, Greg Becker, Personally himself lobbied for deregulation.
00:20:18.000Do you know what would make things a lot easier?
00:20:21.000What, do you mean let you do more stuff that you want to do without stopping you from doing it in case it causes a financial crash of some kind?
00:21:31.000But don't think there's a revolving door between Washington and Wall Street.
00:21:34.000Don't think that no matter who you vote for, you're going to get the same sort of results.
00:21:38.000Don't think that there's no one in Washington standing up for your rights.
00:21:42.000And even the peripheral figures that do care about your rights, voices in the wilderness that won't have any meaningful impact because institutional power is locked into a set of interests that can't be moved by democracy.
00:21:55.000Around that time, federal disclosure records show the bank was lobbying lawmakers on financial regulatory reform and the Systemic Risk Designation Improvement Act of 2015, a bill that was the precursor to legislation ultimately signed by President Donald Trump.
00:22:10.000The bill was supported in the Senate by 50 Republicans and 17 Democrats, including Virginia Senator Mark Warner, Democrat, for whom Becker held a fundraiser, That is Menlo Park, California home in 2016.
00:22:24.000It's exactly what you think it is, isn't it?
00:22:38.000You know, that you're not representing the interests of the people that you were elected by to protect them, particularly in the wake of the 2008 crash?
00:22:46.000Sorry, I stopped listening after we agreed on the fundraiser.
00:22:49.000Three years later, after the bank spent more than half a million dollars on federal lobbying, lawmakers obliged.
00:22:55.000A bit of lobbying, employer is someone, old a couple of fundraisers, a bit more lobbying, crack on and earn your money.
00:23:01.000Progressive critics have been quick to blame a deregulatory measure approved five years ago by the then Republican-controlled Congress for engendering two of the three largest bank failures in US history.
00:23:11.000Yeah, because then what you could do is you can have your cake and eat it.
00:23:14.000You can still feel like you're on the right side of history and everything and not do anything to change anything.
00:23:19.000That's what happens again and again and again.
00:23:20.000In fact, I increasingly believe that is the liberal position.
00:23:23.000Well, the only things are available are these bastards or us bastards.
00:23:27.000And us bastards at least pretend to care about people that are slightly different from us.
00:23:30.000The GOP, however, wasn't alone in supporting Senator Mike Crapo's Republican Idaho Economic Growth Regulatory Relief and Consumer Protection Act.
00:23:39.000Even then, it wasn't just Republicans.
00:23:41.000Barney Frank, architect of the Dodd-Frank banking regulations implemented in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis, played a key role in whitewashing the bipartisan effort to weaken those rules in 2018 after he had received more than a million dollars while serving on Signature's board following his departure from Congress.
00:24:01.000One of the people that came up with the regulations to prevent another crash like 2008 ever happening again, this dude, Barney Frank, got a job on the board of Signature and took a million dollars and participated in weakening the regulation that he himself came up with.
00:24:17.000He must have known what that regulation was supposed to be doing it.
00:24:20.000How are we ever going to stop another financial crash of this nature?
00:24:23.000Well, I've come up with some regulations.
00:24:25.000If we carry the one across there, there it should work.
00:24:50.000I'm gonna need a little space, a little room, in particular, to store some of this cash that I've recently acquired that it's none of your business where I got that, as a matter of fact.
00:24:58.000Does anyone need anything deregulated?
00:25:16.000With just a few moments of scrutiny, it becomes perfectly clear that whilst you can say that the measures passed by Trump contributed to this problem, it was already a bipartisan bill, therefore culpability must be shared by both parties.
00:25:28.000It also relates to early events, specifically the events in 2008.
00:25:31.000Also, a Democrat, Barney Frank, created that regulation, then lobbied for the deregulation while working at one of those banks that gave him money.
00:25:39.000So you can't have a partisan position on this.
00:25:42.000Remember, we're not saying that the Republicans and Donald Trump aren't to blame.
00:25:45.000They are, but also the Democrats are to blame as well.
00:25:48.000For example, they've learned that people don't like bailing out banks, so they'll be very careful to say, we won't be bailing out the banks using taxpayer money, we've got this special miracle fund that only comes from bankers.
00:25:59.000Okay, do you think if we spend a moment pondering that, do you think the banks might look to somehow rescind those losses or mitigate those losses elsewhere?
00:26:08.000Who do you think the banks will all look to get the money from?
00:26:15.000Today, thanks to the quick action of my administration over the past few days, Americans can have confidence that the banking system is safe.
00:26:47.000That's why there's not people involved in Lehman Brothers and Deutsche Bank working at these banks.
00:26:53.000Like, Joseph Gentile can't really have worked at Lehman Brothers and also SVP.
00:26:58.000And Kim Olsen can't really have worked at Deutsche Bank and Signature.
00:27:01.000Otherwise, what Joe Biden's saying there would be a mad lie.
00:27:05.000During the Obama-Biden administration, we put in place tough requirements on banks How did that work out?
00:27:14.000the Dodd-Frank law. Dodd-Frank law, that's that guy, Frank, who lobbied to change the
00:27:18.000law so that a bank he worked for and who gave him a million dollars could benefit. To make
00:27:22.000sure that the crisis we saw in 2008 would not happen again.
00:27:27.000Unfortunately, it did happen The last administration rolled back some of these requirements.
00:27:33.000Oh that last administration where people held fundraisers.
00:27:36.000Oh that last administration that was voted for by both parties.
00:27:40.000Oh that last administration that was a direct result of the failures of 2008.
00:27:44.000Joe Biden and elected and appointed officials all insist the emergency interventions to protect deposits in Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank Or indeed any further bank failures won't come at taxpayers expense.
00:27:56.000On Monday, Biden was at pains to say that no losses would be borne by taxpayers, and the money would come from the fees that banks pay to the Deposit Insurance Fund of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, FDIC.
00:28:06.000His comments followed those of Janet Yellen, the Treasury Secretary, who told CBS on Sunday, Let me be clear that during the financial crisis there were investors and owners of systemic large banks that were bailed out and the reforms that have been put in place means that we're not going to do that again in the same way, in a way that's visible and plain because we worked out that we can get away with this stuff if we just change the words a little bit.
00:28:26.000But one thing we can tell you is the financial industry isn't going to be meaningfully persecuted in the same way that Joe Biden's big pharma we beat pharma this year bill isn't going to meaningfully penalise him.
00:28:36.000Otherwise, you won't be seeing Pfizer come in on saying we've made record profits.
00:28:39.000What they'll do is they'll find a way of being able to say something to you, like, oh, we changed it, look, that won't make a meaningful difference, not to the profits of the pharmaceutical industry.
00:28:51.000Jason Furman, chair of the Council of Economic Advisers under Barack Obama, was not convinced, saying, make no mistake, it does have an expected cost to taxpayers.
00:29:00.000Even Andrew Ross Sorkin, financial columnist for the New York Times, thinks it's a bailout.
00:29:05.000It's a bailout, not like 2008, but it's a bailout of the venture capital community and their portfolio companies, their investments.
00:29:11.000It's easy to see why the Biden administration is keen to avoid the B word, given the general antipathy towards the enormous bailouts that Wall Street banks received during the 2008 financial crisis.
00:29:21.000Generally speaking, it created a populist movement, notably Occupy, where people from across the political spectrum came together, recognizing that their interests, shared interests, meant they ought to put aside any cultural differences and come together to confront centralised power.
00:29:35.000Have you noticed that since then, there's a lot of talk about how we're all different from one another and how we should spend all our time fighting one another based on our cultural, sexual and identity differences?
00:29:44.000Almost as if the culture is pumping you full of information to make you think, oh god, that person's got a different type of dickie bird than I got!
00:29:53.000Spend all your time worrying about stuff that doesn't really matter if you stop thinking about it.
00:29:58.000Finance officials have said that covering depositor losses from the bank failures would be met in part by the deposit insurance fund held by the FDIC, the government corporation that supplies deposit insurance to depositors in the US commercial banks and saving banks.
00:30:10.000But Susanna Streeter Head of money and markets at Hargreaves Lansdowne said the wider banking system will bear the brunt of the bailout of banking customers as the money will come from fees institutions pay into the deposit insurance fund.
00:30:23.000So this won't affect you unless you use money.
00:30:26.000No, no, no, perhaps you don't use money in your life.
00:30:27.000I, of course, get through life just by it.
00:30:29.000If I need a good or service, what I do is I sing them a song.
00:30:33.000And then I'll just get my money like that, so I'm not affected by banking stuff.
00:30:37.000If that happens, it will get harder to argue that the non-bailout bailout will not ultimately fall on US taxpayers.
00:30:42.000But they will keep arguing it, or they'll wait a little bit of time, like they did with the 2008 regulations, before rescinding them, because you're thinking about something else.
00:30:49.000Because by then, there'll be a war, or a pandemic, and we'll be thinking about that, and you'll forget, oh no, there was that thing when they lied to us again.
00:30:57.000Assuming there are wider losses not covered either by SVB and signature assets or federal deposit insurance funds, part of it should be expected to fall on bank customers indirectly, Morgan Ricks, a banking professor at Vanderbilt Law School, told NBC.
00:31:11.000OK, so let's see if there is a relationship between the way that parties are funded and the way that parties behave when in office, and if Biden's serious when he spouts invective about how the perpetrators of these events will be punished.
00:31:23.000In 2020, President Trump promised four more years of low taxes, light regulation and a laser focus on the stock market.
00:31:29.000Yet professionals on Wall Street shunned Trump and funneled staggering amounts of money to his opponent.
00:31:35.000Campaign donations to Biden were five times larger than to Trump.
00:31:39.000What this clearly demonstrates to me is that there is a porous relationship between Wall Street and Washington.
00:31:45.000That if you give enough money to the Democrat Party or the Republican Party, they will legislate, regulate and govern in accordance with your wishes, not in accordance with the people that voted them into office and power.
00:31:56.000Biden received five times more money from Wall Street than Trump.
00:32:00.000Do you think that receiving this enormous injection of cash will impede his ability to regulate, guide and influence the manner in which he regulates the financial industry?
00:32:11.000Or do you think he'll just take that money and forget all about it?
00:32:13.000The same way they took your vote then forgot what they promised you.
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00:33:51.000So one of the things we're talking about over the course of this episode is the course escalation of tensions between Russia and the United States vis-a-vis the drone issue and I guess what's funny is when you see Donald Trump crop up on your TV set saying that he could solve the conflict in half an hour or 25 seconds or whatever audacious claim Trump has made about being able to bring about peace but the truth ...is that Trump is an outlier and an oddity in the global political space, in particular because of his willingness to, for example, visit Kim Jong-il.
00:35:00.000Listen, what we're talking about more broadly is the escalation of fear in our No sooner does a pandemic end than there's an economic crisis and a geopolitical conflict.
00:35:12.000I wanted to draw your attention to a couple of interesting quotes.
00:35:16.000The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed and hence clamorous to be led to safety by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.
00:35:27.000We went from the Cold War to the war on terror to this war on germs.
00:35:34.000personifying drones oddly pretending to be haughtily concerned about the sort of the drone getting sort of petrol blown about all over it whilst accepting money from Raytheon which was the last example we didn't end up getting to but that person that Fox News featured Obviously got big contributions from Raytheon.
00:35:54.000You can't bring someone who receives money from Raytheon onto a show to objectively either advocate or deny the necessity for war.
00:36:04.000Listen to this as well by Konya Boyak.
00:36:07.000Physical attacks lead to a corresponding increase of trust in political leaders and submission to them.
00:36:13.000This effect is likely the same whether the attack be a surprise known to political leaders yet allowed to happen Or directly orchestrated by these same leaders who stand to benefit from the increased trust and submission.
00:36:23.000False flag operations are used because people generally do not have access to the details so they're prone to rely upon what they're told and are thus easily deceived.
00:36:31.000People will for the most part believe what they're told in times of crisis and so government officials, whether their motives are good or evil, capitalize on or completely fabricate the crisis.
00:36:40.000I think sometimes it's Interesting and wise even to broaden our perspective to look at what's happening.
00:36:46.000We become so captured and immersed in the terrifying details of endless and diverse potential conflicts and actual ongoing conflicts that we forget that something deeper is happening to us.
00:36:59.000You'll love the conversation that's on this show tomorrow with Cornel West precisely because he's a figure who's able to take a macro perspective, who understands history, who understands philosophy and yet still has recourse to love and emphasizes the significance and importance of spiritual values when dealing with this level of complexity.
00:37:20.000You know our perspective has become about bringing people together, having conversations
00:37:25.000that no longer are in separate encampments defined by former tribal allegiances to right
00:38:13.000But nevertheless, it's like you can only just start, you know, like you can barely relax about Russia, Ukraine, and then you're told it's kicking off in North Korea and there's new military bases cropping up in the Philippines.
00:38:24.000So there's this ongoing escalation of angst and fear, ongoing cultural conversations that seems doomed to end in yet more conflict.
00:38:34.000This is why there have to be voices about advocating for love and forgiveness and compassion.
00:38:39.000Basic spiritual principles, if you ask me.
00:38:41.000Let's have a quick look about what's going on in North Korea and then we're going to talk to Kim Iverson in a minute because she has a sort of a broad journalistic understanding of how these conflicts are being used to divide us.
00:38:53.000First, let's look at how, I think it's ABC report, or is it NBC?
00:38:57.000It's one of the BCs, report on this current escalating conflict in Korea now.
00:39:07.000and South Korea launching their biggest joint military exercises in years, readying themselves to defend against an evolving North Korean threat.
00:39:15.000North Korea weighs... Readying themselves, but simultaneously provoking it.
00:39:39.000Official state media saying the North launched two cruise missiles on the eve of the drills from a submarine off North Korea's coast, claiming they flew for two hours in figure eights over the Sea of Japan.
00:39:50.000that they did figure eights yeah it's not ice skating no it's also a hard thing to do for a missile yeah it's almost too impressive and also they did it for too long like once you've seen a figure of eight by a missile you don't need to see it do it again and again come back now lads like juggling like once you've seen a bit like of juggling you're like oh i get it you can juggle oh fire oh fuel prices are high at the moment as well so you're wasting fuel South Korea's military confirming they tracked at least one missile launch from the North, saying they're working with U.S.
00:40:25.000The tests launch a pointed reminder of the escalating security threat from North Korea, which conducted more than 70 missile tests last year, the most ever.
00:41:57.000It's one of the things that's been obfuscated in this escalating global tension is that we've all got skin in the game when it comes to the annihilation of the planet.
00:42:07.000We all Have a look at Trump when he went to visit Kim Jong-un.
00:42:13.000I want you to pay attention to a few things.
00:42:15.000Trump is his usual bright and breezy, robust self.
00:42:19.000In my view, Kim Jong-un don't show a wide enough range of emotions.
00:42:23.000That's why I'd like to see a few more expressions from Kim Jong-un.
00:44:31.000Listen, Kim, I know that yesterday you spoke to Dmitry Polyansky and I'd like to know what you learned by talking to the UN ambassador to Russia.
00:44:41.000What particular revelations were made and how it advanced the conversation and whether it gave you a different perspective on this recent escalation via the drone story?
00:44:50.000Yeah, so ambassador, he's the Russian ambassador for the UN, Dmitry Polyansky, he basically says that the drone was in Russian airspace, that they didn't touch the drone, that, and now we have video evidence of what happened, according to the US government, they've released the video and you can see the Russian fighter jets.
00:45:18.000is claiming that they did, but the Russians are saying they didn't.
00:45:21.000The ambassador basically said that if their jets had hit the drone, then their jets would have been damaged, and their jets were not damaged.
00:45:29.000But we did see from the video that a couple of the propellers were bent.
00:45:33.000One of them looked like it was twisted.
00:46:19.000They were saying that it was pretty close to the Crimean shore.
00:46:22.000Sure, and they now have recovered the drone so it looks like I mean both things could be correct There could have been a lot obviously there was fighter jets doing some fancy maneuvers around the drone At the same time that the fighter jets may not have made contact direct contact with the drone it could have been the jet fuel that bent the propellers and At the same time this drone clearly was very close to Crimea in what Russia considers to be their airspace so it looks like One side says it was aggressive.
00:46:50.000That's Russia saying this drone was aggressively in our area.
00:46:53.000And the other side says you guys were flying recklessly and unprofessionally around our drone and took it down.
00:47:00.000Essentially shooting it down without shooting it.
00:47:03.000I do think that hearing a different perspective on this subject already helps to temper the escalating tensions.
00:47:12.000It's obvious that this issue, from a Russian perspective, is entirely different.
00:47:18.000It's seen as an act of aggression to even be in that airspace.
00:47:21.000And I wonder, Kim, if you have anyone there with you who could potentially turn your mic down a little bit.
00:47:26.000We're experiencing some distortion at this end.
00:47:28.000I'm not sure if that's something you could do.
00:47:33.000It seems again that this is one of those stories that's being leapt upon to advance the narrative that it's legitimate to increase tensions between the US and Russia.
00:47:45.000Why are we not seeing any attempts at diplomacy?
00:47:48.000Why is the media in particular always keen to present even relatively minor skirmishes in the least favourable light?
00:47:59.000I wish that they would go towards diplomacy, and I would hope that something like this wouldn't escalate things.
00:48:05.000But it looks like this is just going to escalate tensions.
00:48:08.000is using this incident as a means to say, look, Russia's aggressive towards us.
00:48:46.000So I don't know how exactly they're going to de-escalate this or use this to de-escalate
00:48:51.000They're going to have to just—both sides are going to have to kind of ignore it if we don't want this to escalate into a further conflict where there's boots on the ground.
00:48:59.000I mean, the next step is going to be NATO troops in Ukraine.
00:49:30.000Do you think that this aspect of the financial crisis will be utilised to promote the use of CBDCs to ensure that centralised currencies are placed in the hands of existing establishment structures?
00:49:49.000I actually my view on the collapse of SVB and also subsequently Signature Bank of New York and previously Silvergate Bank was that these were targeted attacks on banks that were heavily into the crypto world.
00:51:19.000Federal Reserve Bank was unwilling to do that for these three banks.
00:51:23.000But then suddenly, three days later, if they just would have implemented the rule that they have now, three days later, those three solvent banks would have remained in business.
00:51:32.000You can take a bank down when a bank is insolvent, but to take a solvent bank down, that's purposeful.
00:52:42.000So, we're seeing them march towards this central bank digital currency, where individuals like you and I will have bank accounts, essentially, with the central bank, with the Federal Reserve.
00:52:54.000That's where our bank—that's where our money will be held.
00:52:59.000They even say on their website that it would help with combating crime, criminals, because of the transparency of where their transactions are going.
00:53:09.000So, they're wanting to roll out the central bank digital currency.
00:53:15.000So, part of these collapsings of these banks is also to get people to say, oh my gosh, you're telling me when I put my money that I earned into a bank account, and I've made no risky investments, the only thing I did was open a bank account, and now you're telling me I might lose all of my money, claiming it's somehow my fault I opened up a bank account.
00:53:34.000They're wanting you to feel that fear so that then you say, well, then what's the only thing?
00:53:54.000God, Kim, that's such an extraordinary and evolved perspective and so in keeping with one of the themes of today's show, how the escalation of fear ultimately causes us to submit to further authority.
00:54:07.000I hadn't noticed that potential in that story at all, not that I would, I'm not a financial expert by any means, but much of the reporting that we've seen and even participated in focused on the increase of Interest rates and sort of almost, I suppose, conventional financial arguments for how this collapse has been brought about and its corollary with 2008.
00:54:27.000This crypto perspective and how it might facilitate further centralization of currency is a fascinating one.
00:54:33.000I don't know why I'd be remotely surprised that you would provide such insights, Kim, for you have made a living doing precisely that.
00:54:40.000Kim Iverson, thank you so much for joining us on Stay Free.
00:54:50.000Kim Iverson is the host of The Kim Iverson Show, available to watch every weekday from 6pm PT, 9pm ET on Rumble.
00:54:59.000Before we wrap up the show today, why don't we momentarily ruminate on the events of January 6th?
00:55:07.000Because this is obviously something we've been threatening to talk about for a number of days, and in particular the way that it's been mobilised and utilised by differing sides within media.
00:55:20.000How dare anyone diminish or deny The events of January 6th.
00:55:25.000I suppose what it centers around in the end is whether or not you feel like you ought have access to as much information as possible before making a decision.
00:55:35.000The other one is what are the conditions that led to January the 6th?
00:55:39.000That tends to be absent from a lot of mainstream reporting.
00:55:43.000We enjoyed very much this clip on NBC where they talk of Tucker Carlson as if he's a sort of shamanic figure able to create Alternative realms and dimensions.
00:56:20.000To his loyal audience that he's captured and tricked somehow.
00:56:24.000It's really odd the things that they choose to attack particularly when ultimately from their perspective this is a story about bias.
00:56:31.000What their claim is is that Tucker Carlson and Fox are only showing footage that supports their perspective and certainly that is a claim that can be made but they have to simultaneously recognize that they are doing the same thing.
00:56:45.000It's clear that all of the footage Unless, you know, you go full on, it's the whole thing staged, which some people are down with that, aren't they?
00:56:52.000Like, you know, there's footage of people smashing up doors, there's footage of ins- of what look like insurgent acts,
00:56:58.000but there's also footage of people sort of ambling through corridors across tiled floors,
00:57:04.000"...from January 6th to create an alternative reality..."
00:57:08.000Ha ha ha, it's not- it's not an alternative reality!
00:57:13.000It's just another thing that happened.
00:57:14.000It's just another perspective like then when we were talking to Kim who'd spoken to a diplomat from Russia and from a Russian perspective that drone strike is well that's above water that's adjacent to our nation, we still consider Crimea to be part
00:58:06.000So it's really interesting to do a show about bias, to have a take about bias, and then to use such extraordinarily bombastic and hyperbolic language while apparently addressing the issue of bias.
00:58:24.000I suppose this is one of the things we've been talking about a lot in the last couple of weeks, that there is no moral authority on either side and ultimately we need Listen to what some people said on the surveys we give out when you get tickets in response to some of these questions about the effects of lockdown.
00:58:39.000I'm just going to show you a little clip of my show Brandemic.
00:59:27.000I also do meditations on there, and live recordings.
00:59:31.000Graham Hancocks will be joining us next week.
00:59:33.000You can You can attend that if you want to.
00:59:36.000On tomorrow's show, I'll be talking to Dr. Cornel West, a philosopher, political activist, and someone who inspires in me a deep belief that it is possible to change by listening to voices from across the political and philosophical spectrum, that we needn't be tyrannized and frightened by the bombast