Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 25, 2024


Here’s the News: Jon Stewart Backlash Over Biden Comments Explained


Episode Stats

Length

19 minutes

Words per Minute

197.18619

Word Count

3,901

Sentence Count

225

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

In this episode, Russell Brand takes a look at Jon Stewart's return to The Daily Show, and the reaction to it, and why the left can't handle it. He also takes a shot at Joe Biden and his age, and how it might be a symptom of the system itself, rather than a reflection of the people it serves, of the times in which we live. Russell Brand is an American comedian, podcaster, writer, and podcaster. His work has been featured on Comedy Central, HBO, and other media outlets, and he is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, and NPR. He is married to the wife of former Vice President Joe Biden, Jill Biden, and they have a son, a daughter, a son-in-law, a stepson, a grandchild, and a great-son, and great-grandson. Russell Brand has been a long-time friend and supporter of the Democratic Party and has been involved in politics for a long time. He has been an avid supporter of Bernie Sanders and other liberal causes, and has consistently voted for him in the Democratic presidential candidates in presidential primary debates, including Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren in 2016 and is a supporter of his wife, Hillary Clinton in the 2020 Democratic primary, and is an admirer of Joe Biden in 2020 and 2020 Democratic challenger, Tulsi Gabbard in the CNN primary, as well as in the primary race for Vice Presidential candidates in 2020, and in 2016's Democratic primary debates and the Democratic primary battle against Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton's primary challenger, Amy Klobuchow, Alexandria Ocasio-Coff-her, who is running for the Democratic nomination, Julian Zelinsky, who has been named after him in a recent CNN poll, Joe Biden. , Russell Brand explains why he thinks Jon Stewart s return to the Daily Show is a good ole job, and what it means for the left and why it s time for him to run for president. . And he explains why Jon Stewart represents a political category that s starting to disappear from the political landscape, and explains why the media is losing ground to Joe Biden s old age and what s going to do in 2020. Stay Freezing in the face of the establishment elite, and much less so than it used to be, and that s becoming more accessible, not less, and begins to look like a little less so, and more focused on the media s ability to be funny.


Transcript

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00:00:42.000 No, here's the fucking news!
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00:01:06.000 A changing media world that can't accommodate Perhaps one of its key and landmark figures, Jon Stewart.
00:01:12.000 When Jon Stewart was last on The Daily Show, he showed how current affairs could be handled comedically and more intelligently than the actual news.
00:01:19.000 It was a common trope at the time.
00:01:21.000 People were watching The Daily Show to get their news.
00:01:23.000 Now Jon Stewart is back, and I would say brilliant and Perhaps even better than ever.
00:01:28.000 But what's marked, observable and challenging is the world has changed since Jon Stewart used to last be on TV.
00:01:35.000 Now you're either for the establishment or you're against the establishment.
00:01:39.000 And the establishment figures from the left have been facing more and more criticism.
00:01:43.000 Remember, I was associated with the left for a long time because I believe in Liberalism and freedom and be who you are and leave me alone and that kind of stuff which I know a lot of you in the comments will say those are conservative ideas but anti-establishmentism when you have corporatist leaders previously was always assumed to be coming from the cultural left shall we say.
00:02:02.000 Well now that very same cultural set can't tolerate or accommodate criticisms of Joe Biden for being Old.
00:02:08.000 Which seems like a pretty high threshold given that Joe Biden is pretty old.
00:02:13.000 Let's have a look at Jon Stewart's return and some of the criticisms of it before analyzing what's changed in our culture that means that Jon Stewart is now more controversial than ever.
00:02:22.000 These two candidates they are both similarly challenged and it is not crazy to think that the oldest people in the history of the country to ever run for president might have some of these challenges.
00:02:32.000 Now Democrats will say that any criticism like this, especially of Biden, is unfair.
00:02:37.000 That's weird because he's saying this before the criticism has happened and indeed that is precisely the criticism that has happened.
00:02:43.000 I don't know how you feel in particular about the senility and decay of Joe Biden.
00:02:48.000 I've always taken it to be an observable and evident symbol of, well, the decay of the system itself, and evidence that he can't be in a pivotal executive position because he wouldn't be capable of that.
00:03:00.000 And it seems ludicrous and ridiculous to see a paracheek after a paracheek come out and claim that Joe Biden's sharp as a whip, he's lightning fast, it seems preposterous and inconceivable that that's true.
00:03:11.000 What's interesting to me is to see Jon Stewart with his same cadence and same meter and now suddenly the left, his old allies, can't deal with it.
00:03:20.000 One thing I think is important about Jon Stewart to remember is that after 9-11 he was right in there with first responders, supporting them.
00:03:26.000 It's a cause that's very close to him.
00:03:27.000 And what I would say is that Jon Stewart represents a political category that's starting to disappear.
00:03:31.000 People of the left that are connected to blue-collar working people.
00:03:35.000 That in particular is the change that the establishment elite have undertaken.
00:03:40.000 An evident loathing of ordinary working people is why a lot of people don't feel at home in what was once regarded as the left.
00:03:46.000 Because you just don't know Biden like they know Biden.
00:03:50.000 President Biden, who I've been around numerous times just in this last year, is sharp, he's focused, he's bright.
00:03:56.000 He is sharp, intensely probing, and detail-oriented and focused.
00:04:02.000 Oh, that one was really funny.
00:04:04.000 And focused, there.
00:04:05.000 And focused.
00:04:06.000 I got all my points in that I was told to get in before I did this TV show.
00:04:10.000 And focused.
00:04:10.000 We've all become more media savvy in the intervening years since Jon Stewart's departure from the Daily Show.
00:04:16.000 We all know now there's a relationship between the legacy media and the government.
00:04:19.000 We all know now because of the release of the Twitter files that deep state operatives are controlling portions of what's accessible and permittable on social media.
00:04:28.000 We've all become Better educated.
00:04:30.000 We all see a montage like that now and understand that it's not a coincidence that they're all using the same terms and the same words.
00:04:36.000 In a sense, Jon Stewart to a degree participated in the creation of this landscape.
00:04:40.000 Critiques of legacy media, critiques of the political class.
00:04:44.000 Of course, Jon Stewart isn't the creator of satire, but this kind of fast-paced, anti-establishment, quick, thinking aggressive style of comedy was very much pioneered or made more popular certainly by Jon Stewart.
00:04:55.000 The problem is now the culture has changed and it is forbidden oddly on the authoritarian left to attack a leader like Joe Biden as if it's Stalin or something where if you criticize him it's like oh my god you're gonna die.
00:05:06.000 Of course now it would be more a digital death or a cultural death or not being permitted to participate in the spoils of the establishment elite and I think what's most interesting about Jon Stewart's return is we can see now that the culture has radically altered since John Stewart was part of the mainstream.
00:05:22.000 The culture no longer permits criticism of the powerful.
00:05:26.000 There are prescribed tropes that are permitted, and that's it.
00:05:29.000 You might have seen some talk show hosts talking about Tucker's interview with Putin, and it was kind of lukewarm satire, and that's what's become normal now.
00:05:37.000 The aggressive attack of the powerful, that exists on online platforms now.
00:05:41.000 The mainstream has extracted that from its discourse.
00:05:43.000 It can no longer tolerate it because the legacy media exists to amplify and support the establishment, not to attack it.
00:05:50.000 This is a man who is sharp, who is on top of his game, who knows what's going on.
00:05:54.000 He's smart.
00:05:54.000 He's on his game.
00:05:55.000 I was in almost every meeting with the president.
00:05:59.000 Yeah, a lot of people have got doubts about you and all, mate.
00:06:01.000 And the president was in front of and on top of it all, coordinating And directing.
00:06:10.000 What is the standard you expect of the President of the United States?
00:06:14.000 It's not like an elderly person who's participating in the community as a member of the Rotary Club.
00:06:20.000 This is a person that's across geopolitical issues, numerous world wars, arms deals, pandemics.
00:06:25.000 That standard isn't high enough.
00:06:27.000 Leaders who are in charge of America's national security, not to mention our allies around the globe.
00:06:35.000 Did anyone film that?
00:06:38.000 I even wonder if the audience laughed at his somewhat nervous
00:06:47.000 We've been so coached during the pandemic period to recognise this is what we're allowed to laugh at, we're not allowed to laugh at this and part of cancel culture and part of the what you used to call political correctness but has now become far more extreme.
00:06:58.000 means that we don't live in the same sort of convivial and easy comedic atmosphere that we once did.
00:07:04.000 Are we allowed to laugh at Joe Biden? It's not laughing at him because he's elderly, of course.
00:07:07.000 There is an equivalency between age and experience and therefore perhaps wisdom.
00:07:11.000 This is not laughing at an old person, this is questioning the cognitive capacity of a person
00:07:16.000 in a position of great power and querying whether or not this is at odds with what
00:07:20.000 our expectations of the leader of the free world ought be.
00:07:24.000 Because if you're telling us behind the scenes he is sharp and full of energy and on top of it
00:07:33.000 and really in control and leading, you should film that.
00:07:37.000 Of course, when it comes to Republicans, they've got a different strategy for their 77-year-old candidate.
00:07:42.000 Jon Stewart goes on to attack Donald Trump, and Jon Stewart always used to attack both sides, used to attack the establishment broadly.
00:07:48.000 Now, the Democrats have been very critical of Jon Stewart's attacks, as they perceive them, on Biden, but the right haven't mentioned anything about Donald Trump, and it's odd First of all, Donald Trump is not an old man.
00:07:57.000 this tendency towards censorship, this inability to accommodate open conversation or humor,
00:08:02.000 or even pointing out the obvious in the case of Joe Biden's cognitive decline,
00:08:07.000 is an indicator of a new cultural climate where there is a sense of pervasive oppression,
00:08:11.000 where there's certain things you're just not allowed to say, and that is perhaps the biggest
00:08:15.000 shift that's taken place since Jon Stewart was last on the air.
00:08:18.000 Well first of all, Donald Trump is not an old man.
00:08:21.000 He's an old man! He is objectively an old man, on a human scale.
00:08:28.000 We have two candidates who are chronologically outside the norm of anyone who has run for the presidency in this country, in the history of this country.
00:08:38.000 They are the oldest people ever to run for president, breaking by only four years the record that they set!
00:08:49.000 The last time they ran!
00:08:51.000 Jon Stewart appears to be skewering an important flaw of our political age.
00:08:56.000 Our political class are not retiring.
00:08:58.000 Perhaps because of the donations and financial support and ability to rake in cash, invest in companies that will benefit from laws that they're passing.
00:09:07.000 People like Nancy Pelosi or that other old lady that needed to be given advice.
00:09:11.000 Vote for the war!
00:09:12.000 War is good now?
00:09:12.000 Yeah, times have changed.
00:09:14.000 War is good now.
00:09:15.000 Yeah, just say aye.
00:09:16.000 Okay, just...
00:09:19.000 Aye.
00:09:20.000 All these people are elderly and don't you see in that a kind of visual demonstration of what's wrong with the system?
00:09:26.000 It has become corrupted.
00:09:28.000 It has become occupied by incumbents that are no longer appropriate.
00:09:32.000 It needs to alter.
00:09:33.000 It needs to radically change.
00:09:35.000 during the 2020 election.
00:09:36.000 Wasn't it kind of ridiculous that we were talking about progress and change and people of color
00:09:40.000 and Joe Biden was the monolith that was presented to us as here, this elderly white gentleman
00:09:46.000 for a new brave world.
00:09:47.000 It shows you that there are no real values or principles within that system,
00:09:50.000 that it's actually governed by peculiar hierarchies, odd systemic relationships and financial partnerships
00:09:56.000 between financial systems and big tech and the military industrial complex.
00:10:01.000 And it was all just sort of papered over by language verbosity. This is a brave new world.
00:10:06.000 I'm the only person that can oppose Donald Trump.
00:10:08.000 When, in effect, what is happening, as Jon Stewart observes, is elderly people are retaining their power, retaining their positions, while claiming that the world is progressing.
00:10:17.000 There's something very odd about that.
00:10:18.000 Predictably, mainstream media, cultural institutions, responded unfavourably to Jon Stewart's nuanced attack on both candidates.
00:10:26.000 Because, remember, he attacked Trump, he attacked Biden.
00:10:28.000 I don't see anybody on the right going, you can't say that about Donald Trump.
00:10:31.000 He's trying his hardest with his hair and his skin tone.
00:10:34.000 I love that Jon Stewart is back, but what's so offensive to me is there's a difference between age and intelligence.
00:10:41.000 There's a difference between age and vitality.
00:10:43.000 There's a difference between age and really being up on things and having that quickness of wit that joy has.
00:10:54.000 We're talking about Joe Biden, who sometimes doesn't look very well, or like he fully understands the magnitude of what he's dealing with in these numerous incendiary wars.
00:11:03.000 Different to, like, go and do The View.
00:11:04.000 I'd let Joe Biden go and do The View.
00:11:06.000 Yeah, go and do The View.
00:11:07.000 Don't matter how people are watching it or they won't watch it.
00:11:09.000 Not, let's decide whether or not to escalate a war with Russia and China and Iran simultaneously.
00:11:14.000 That's not the same as beyond The View.
00:11:16.000 Let me just tell you that Martha Stewart's 82.
00:11:19.000 She's still cooking in front of people.
00:11:21.000 Yeah, but she's just cooking.
00:11:22.000 She's not decided whether or not we go to war with Russia.
00:11:24.000 Also, she did have to go to jail.
00:11:26.000 Robert De Niro and Al Pacino are getting it in.
00:11:28.000 They're actors.
00:11:29.000 They're just pretending to be gangsters.
00:11:31.000 Joe Biden is running the free world.
00:11:33.000 They've got babies in their 80s, okay?
00:11:36.000 Jay Fonda, 86.
00:11:38.000 Representative Maxine Waters, 85.
00:11:40.000 Yeah, part of the problem.
00:11:41.000 Nancy Pelosi, 83.
00:11:42.000 Part of the problem.
00:11:44.000 I don't know.
00:11:44.000 They look like they know what they're doing.
00:11:45.000 No.
00:11:46.000 No.
00:11:47.000 Maybe they know what they're doing.
00:11:48.000 They're exploiting us.
00:11:49.000 They have the wisdom, they have the history.
00:11:50.000 The problem with this country... This is distinct.
00:11:53.000 From revering elders and a culture that respects people's experience and we're able to turn to them and honour them.
00:12:00.000 Those are really important values.
00:12:01.000 This isn't a, let's honour Joe Biden by ignoring his evident senility.
00:12:06.000 That's not what this is about.
00:12:07.000 This person who seems like might be a corrupt career politician is leading us into various wars that appear to be in the interest of financial institutions and institutions of dominion.
00:12:19.000 Rather than representative of the will of the American people.
00:12:22.000 I was taught to respect my elders, and when they want to lead us into a global holy war, I'd bloody well get on with it.
00:12:26.000 It's called respect.
00:12:28.000 Called Armageddon.
00:12:29.000 We don't value people with their wisdom.
00:12:31.000 We don't value seniors.
00:12:32.000 We don't value entrepreneurs.
00:12:35.000 And I'm sick of this ageism.
00:12:37.000 It says it about both of them, didn't it, Jon Stewart?
00:12:40.000 That didn't warrant that response at all, did it?
00:12:42.000 Let's have a look at some cultural analysis about the changing landscape between when Jon Stewart was previously on the Daily Show to present day and why the culture has changed so radically.
00:12:52.000 And let me know in the comments what you think has changed.
00:12:54.000 Jon Stewart left the Daily Show in August 2015, which was not all that long ago, but was a vastly different media and cultural environment.
00:13:02.000 Celebrity apprentice host and celebrity billionaire Donald Trump had taken his golden escalator ride down for his presidential announcement less than two months earlier, and the tidal wave of societal change was a mere ripple.
00:13:12.000 I remember at that point, the idea that Donald Trump would become president, I thought at least, was ridiculous.
00:13:17.000 This was before the primaries, this was before he proved himself to be basically hilarious.
00:13:21.000 This is a tough business to run for president.
00:13:24.000 Oh I know you're a tough guy, Gia, by the way.
00:13:25.000 And we need to have a leader.
00:13:26.000 And before it became pretty plain that about 50% of the American voting public
00:13:31.000 are so annoyed they are willing to vote for a renegade.
00:13:34.000 Stewart is a political comedy star from an era that has completely disappeared.
00:13:37.000 Ever since large portions of the American media became hopelessly addicted to the drug that is Donald Trump, obsessed with their perceived existential fight with the former and potentially future president.
00:13:47.000 Stuart's daily show reign went from 1999 to 2015, spanning the full scope of the Bush and Obama years.
00:13:54.000 Divisiveness in our politics and culture was rampant then, but Americans also were being served by a media that valued objectivity, basic fairness and intellectual consistency.
00:14:02.000 Although in retrospect, the difference between the Obama and Bush era doesn't look as significant as perhaps it seemed at the time.
00:14:09.000 Ultimately, in retrospect and subsequently, those two men have been able to form a pretty Decent relationship with one another and generally speaking, I would see them as representatives of the same financial interests, wouldn't you?
00:14:20.000 Obama, George Bush, they belong to the same clubs.
00:14:23.000 They'll both accept money from Raytheon.
00:14:25.000 They're both turn up after dinner speeches.
00:14:27.000 Not even saying this is a criticism of Bush or Obama, but they are institutional politicians.
00:14:31.000 Donald Trump, a weird renegade, isn't he?
00:14:33.000 An odd outlier.
00:14:35.000 The kind of first beneficiary of fervid anti-establishment feeling that was clearly present but has peaked in the interim years.
00:14:41.000 In the years since Trump rose to power, objectivity has become seen as a sign of ignorance, or worse, there are hysterical screams of false equivalency and both-side-ism and what-about-ism, because if you're not focused solely on Trump alone, you're simply part of the problem.
00:14:54.000 Former New York Times journalist Amy Chozik said, Objectivity is akin to white supremacy.
00:15:02.000 We've said many times on this show that Pulitzer Prize winning journalists like Chris Hedges and Glenn Greenwald and brilliant up-and-coming journalists like Matt Taibbi or Whitney Webb or Schellenberg or Lee Fang, they're now sort of maligned and marginalized.
00:15:16.000 I swear in the Jon Stewart era one, those people would be at like New York Times, Rolling Stone, getting scoops, attacking the establishment.
00:15:24.000 Now it's like you lot Shut up, you right-wing fascists!
00:15:27.000 And if you know those people, as I do, you can tell they're anti-establishment journalists with real integrity that are attacking corruption and hypocrisy.
00:15:36.000 Now the New York Times won't do that.
00:15:38.000 Rolling Stone won't do that.
00:15:39.000 They are no longer radical organisations.
00:15:41.000 They are about supporting the establishment, accepting cultural areas that ultimately do not affect the main thrust of power, I would argue.
00:15:47.000 Let me know if you agree with that.
00:15:48.000 Stuart's daily show made a regular practice of criticising his own side.
00:15:51.000 He'd go after the hypocrisy of the left, seeming to relish making his audience uncomfortable at times.
00:15:56.000 Stuart was occasionally masterful at exposing the ridiculous contortions we perform to defend powerful figures we support.
00:16:01.000 And he did so not by attacking the people, but by attacking the powerful.
00:16:04.000 In 2024 and since 2017, the Daily Show oeuvre and the corporate media apparatus has been the opposite.
00:16:10.000 It wasn't enough to simply attack Trump or his administration.
00:16:13.000 No, the target was the deplorables who put him there in the first place.
00:16:16.000 This is something we've commented on a lot.
00:16:17.000 The left used to be, as I understood it, the party of working people.
00:16:21.000 To ensure that working people, either through trade unions or in a more disparate way, could oppose and confront the corporate world and its ability to manipulate politics, the left arose to represent those interests.
00:16:33.000 Now the left isn't that anymore.
00:16:35.000 And it was most evident to me, I suppose, and I'm just a casual observer of these things,
00:16:39.000 in the era of Clinton and Blair where legislative changes took place and the left became about
00:16:43.000 we'll just be a slightly nicer version of the right.
00:16:47.000 That's what we'll do.
00:16:48.000 Now I'm an anti-establishment person.
00:16:50.000 I don't think that the right or the left are the solution to our problems.
00:16:53.000 I believe, as I think you know by now, in decentralization so that we don't have to argue about culture anymore.
00:16:57.000 We just say, this community is going to be running this way, this community is going to be running that way, and our cultures can be personal matters or community matters or matters for us to determine for ourselves.
00:17:06.000 This idea that 50% of the population is at war with the other half, where does that end?
00:17:10.000 I suppose in war.
00:17:11.000 Which brings us to Monday night and Stuart returning with a manifesto of sorts tackling the Biden-Trump rematch that nobody wants.
00:17:18.000 He set the table on 2024 by describing in detail the threat of Trump, but also spent significant time calling out the obvious cognitive decline and mental fitness of President Biden, including those Democratic defenders who are spinning a full story after the damning special counsel report.
00:17:32.000 He referred to Biden as chocolate chip cookie guy and mocked Biden's awkward TikTok debut.
00:17:37.000 This was capital U unacceptable for some in the press.
00:17:40.000 Centrist Democrats were appalled at what they saw as a betrayal by one of their own, wrote Rolling Stone.
00:17:45.000 Stewart's main segment was classic both-side-ism, wrote Slate.
00:17:48.000 Those organizations, of course, being now ultimately mouthpieces of the establishment.
00:17:53.000 Jon Stewart is about to learn a hard truth about the current media and cultural environment.
00:17:56.000 His brand isn't welcome anymore.
00:17:58.000 He probably already knows that after he was kicked off Apple for talking about China.
00:18:01.000 And now here we are.
00:18:02.000 Jon Stewart has appalled the left because of his betrayal for daring to state the obvious about Joe Biden.
00:18:07.000 What's fascinating about the return of John Stuart is it allows us as independent observers
00:18:12.000 to recognise that indeed the culture has changed, that it is more sensorial, that it is more
00:18:17.000 authoritarian, that it has become more tribalised.
00:18:19.000 But within that it does demonstrate to me also the possibility for new alliances.
00:18:24.000 Those of us that may not agree with one another on everything culturally or religiously or
00:18:27.000 ideologically and that would surely include basically all of us because if you drilled
00:18:30.000 into it for long enough you'd find fissures in all of our relationships because ultimately
00:18:34.000 the sovereignty of the individual and the value of the community and the family or whatever
00:18:38.000 group you identify with and want to belong to has to be at the forefront of our lives.
00:18:42.000 There is no reason for us to defer our personal power and our sacred connection to whatever
00:18:47.000 ulterior realms you might experience either religiously or intellectually to subjugate
00:18:51.000 those connections in order to appeal to centralised cultural forces that it's become increasingly
00:18:56.000 clear do not care about us, that ultimately just want to marshal and wrangle us around
00:19:01.000 on the chessboard of their reality when it seems as I pointed out with the Bush and Obama
00:19:06.000 era that their affiliation with one another is far stronger with their affiliation with
00:19:10.000 any supposed distinct cultural group.
00:19:12.000 So perhaps the return of John Stewart will be a positive thing because it will show us
00:19:16.000 that authoritarianism and censorship are on the rise, that people have become blinkered
00:19:19.000 when it comes to their ability to criticise their own side and that most of all perhaps
00:19:23.000 when criticising elderly leaders of the only two parties that a person might vote for,
00:19:28.000 for us all to take a moment to observe, the system itself is in radical need of revision.
00:19:34.000 And whichever one of those parties you vote for, you're likely to end up with the same types of institution and the same type of challenges.
00:19:41.000 Well, that's just what I think!
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