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00:00:55.000This is an important moment in American political history.
00:00:59.000Trump has been taken off the ballot and it reveals fissures in American political and cultural life that are splitting in ways that we may not have predicted were it not for our awareness of the changing shape of the public sphere.
00:01:10.000Put simply, there are members of the Republican party that support this decision, members of the Democrat party that support this decision, and along media lines it's as you might imagine as well.
00:01:19.000The legacy media is in broad support of the decision, whereas independent media are more circumspect and challenging inquiring as to where a decision of this nature might lead and the legitimacy of the decision.
00:01:30.000In short, You can no longer analyse American public life along the lines of Republican Party, Democrat Party or even Left and Right.
00:01:37.000What you have now is centralised authority and peripheral figures, some of whom you may love, some of whom you may doubt.
00:01:43.000But it's these peripheral figures that have come out in support of Trump or at least against the decision to take him off the ballot.
00:01:50.000Let's look at the legitimacy of this decision and where it might take America.
00:01:54.000Is it inevitable now that America Is it possible to sustain one nation where every single election you have to say, well, I hate the other 50% of the country, the other 49% of the country, they're idiots.
00:02:31.000And we begin tonight with major breaking news.
00:02:34.000A bombshell ruling from the Colorado Supreme Court in just the last hour states that Donald Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president.
00:02:45.000And from appearing on the Republican primary ballot in that state.
00:02:49.000In a more than 200-page ruling, the court found that Trump is ineligible for the White House under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the U.S.
00:03:21.000A weird thing with that buffalo shaman guy?
00:03:23.000Well, we're calling it an insurrection.
00:03:25.000Then you don't have to have Donald Trump as your opponent in the 2024 election, you don't have to address the mass malaise across America, the failure of establishment politics, the corruption of the military-industrial complex and big pharma that plainly have more influence to exert on the political processes than ordinary Americans, the failing of American cultural life more generally.
00:04:28.000And that Trump, quote, engaged in that insurrection through his personal actions.
00:04:33.000This frankly stunning and unprecedented decision could have major implications in the 2024 race, in which Trump is currently the Republican frontrunner.
00:04:44.000The decision will likely be appealed to the U.S.
00:04:46.000Supreme Court, which could decide the matter on a national level.
00:05:58.000constitutions at levels never seen before in order to win this election.
00:06:02.000In a way, you have both sides now using incendiary and extreme language, saying that this is unprecedented, that it's unconstitutional.
00:06:10.000And for me, it's difficult to imagine how America could ever be healed in a 50-50 electoral ballot in 2024.
00:06:18.000We're generally speaking people don't have a great deal of faith in Joe Biden where he's widely regarded to be sort of a career politician that's potentially engaged in corrupt activity with members of his family that has dubious positions on a variety of subjects has broken numerous promises and Donald Trump who some people adore and see as a Joe Biden is a threat to democracy.
00:06:34.000think is the worst thing to happen in American political life ever, how is either of these
00:06:37.000trajectories going to be a solution? Isn't it likely that this is going to lead to further
00:06:42.000conflagration rather than a healing? If this happens in other states, if Trump doesn't run,
00:06:47.000what's going to happen to the United States of America? Do you think anyone in a position of
00:06:50.000power has sort of mapped out what this is going to look like? Or are they sort of happy to embrace
00:06:56.000the idea of chaos? Let me know in the chat what you think.
00:07:09.000They're weaponizing law enforcement for high-level election interference because we're beating them so badly in the polls.
00:07:16.000This is where new divisions are occurring that don't fall within typical party lines.
00:07:21.000You know we're always cynical on this channel when you see a bipartisan A partisan bill was passed the other day to allow Congress people to own stocks and shares in companies that they're supposed to be regulating, or a new bill so there's war everywhere all the time!
00:07:34.000I always sort of think that, oh look at that, you knew, we're all coming together in the sweet name of violence.
00:07:39.000Well what we're seeing now Is opposition to this measure from RFK.
00:08:23.000There's nothing that Rachel Maddow or the sort of legacy media establishment could say that would make you go, nah, I've got off Donald Trump.
00:08:28.000Like, it's just now like, I don't trust you.
00:08:30.000Neither side trusts each other anymore.
00:08:34.000Whose mind, whose heart does it exist in?
00:08:37.000That's why it's interesting there's that new Civil War movie and people are starting to think about Civil War as a kind of possibility.
00:08:42.000They have just tried to bar President Trump from the Colorado ballot using an unconstitutional maneuver that is a bastardization of the 14th Amendment to our U.S.
00:08:52.000This was a provision, Section 3, that was designed to bar Confederate members, people who switched to the Confederacy, from actually being able to serve.
00:09:00.000That's very different than what's at issue here, to say the least.
00:09:04.000This is a hollowed-out husk of what the country was built on.
00:09:08.000It's interesting to watch the strategy, isn't it?
00:09:12.000Like, Rachel Maddow and the Legacy Media have a strategy.
00:09:15.000They fall on this because they like it.
00:09:38.000And I think Vivek Ramaswamy, more than anyone else in the primaries for the Republican Party, has understood how do you manage The establishment want Nikki Haley.
00:09:47.000Presumably Nikki Haley's gonna go, Well, you can't have Donald Trump.
00:09:49.000I've told you before I don't like Donald Trump.
00:09:50.000the person that's most associated with Trump is probably going to win.
00:10:06.000So now American political life is not left-right or Democrat-Republican, it's establishment-anti-establishment.
00:10:13.000That's why we exist in this space, because we are anti-establishment also, because we've worked out during the pandemic period, because of the forever wars and the forever crises, the omni-crisis as we call it here, that the establishment is a bigger threat than than any peripheral group.
00:10:28.000Now, some people will disagree with that position, but because I, broadly speaking, espouse decentralization,
00:10:34.000that you should have as much sovereignty, sovereignty of the individual,
00:10:37.000sovereignty of the community, sovereignty over your food rights,
00:10:39.000sovereignty over your media, because that's my general position,
00:10:42.000because I believe in things like free speech, because I believe in your right to be different than me,
00:10:58.000That's why I'm making a pledge today that I will withdraw, I pledge to withdraw from the Colorado GOP primary ballot unless and until Trump's name is restored.
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00:14:55.000They invent stuff, don't they, to retain power.
00:14:58.000There's no legitimacy to their government, so how can you use things like moral legitimacy or regulatory or constitutional legitimacy as a weapon when most people now just don't trust it?
00:15:08.000It was really interesting seeing Barack Obama's speech at Stanford.
00:15:11.000Him say, oh, it's the waters are muddied.
00:15:12.000You just have to flood a country's public square.
00:15:17.000No one knows what to believe anymore, but we do know what not to believe, and it's essentially the establishment.
00:15:22.000But the text of the 14th Amendment doesn't actually define an insurrection or spell out what it means to engage in insurrection.
00:15:28.000Even in the old days, there was room for interpretation, like the hate speech laws in Ireland.
00:15:47.000And Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says oath-breaking insurrectionists can't serve as senators, representatives, presidential electors, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States or under any state.
00:15:59.000But it doesn't mention the presidency.
00:16:01.000So we don't know what they mean by engaging, we don't know what they mean by insurrection, we don't know if January 6th was an insurrection and it doesn't actually explicitly say presidency in the piece of legislation or constitution or language that they're using.
00:16:40.000The dissents from the sharply divided 4-3 court offer some legal foundations for Trump to overturn the historic ruling when he inevitably appeals to the US Supreme Court.
00:16:48.000One justice concluded that a candidate shouldn't be disqualified under the 14th Amendment if they haven't been convicted of insurrection, which is a federal crime.
00:16:57.000Trump is facing other felony charges, but not insurrection, in his federal election subversion case.
00:17:02.000Another justice raised due process concerns and said only Congress has the power to enforce the ban.
00:17:09.000So he hasn't been convicted with insurrection.
00:17:12.000He hasn't been charged with insurrection.
00:17:14.000We don't know that January 6th was an insurrection or that he caused an insurrection.
00:17:18.000We don't know what an insurrection means in the piece of legislation that they're using or whether it applies to people that are running for the presidency.
00:17:28.000Three of the seven justices on the Colorado Supreme Court dissented, arguing the former president didn't have a fair trial.
00:17:33.000Carlos Sama warned of chaos in the aftermath of the ruling.
00:17:37.000The decision to bar former President Donald J. Trump by all accounts the current leading Republican presidential candidate and reportedly the current leading overall presidential candidate from Colorado's presidential primary ballot flies in the face of the due process doctrine Samuel wrote in his dissent.
00:17:52.000Legal scholar Jonathan Turley slammed the Colorado Supreme Court for its ruling saying this court just handed partisans on both sides the ultimate tool to try to shortcut elections and it's very very dangerous.
00:18:02.000Oh bloody hell you idiots you're making it worse and worse for everyone.
00:18:29.000Turley, a professor of law, added, Like, that's someone that's, I suppose, interested in democracy and process and procedure and where did all those people go?
00:18:36.000of it not good. In my view it was not an insurrection, it was a riot he said. Like that's someone
00:18:41.000that's I suppose interested in democracy and process and procedure and where did all those
00:18:45.000people go? Where did all the sort of normal people go?
00:18:49.000When did it go into this weird metastasized version of democracy or constitutional republic or whatever you guys want to call it.
00:18:55.000Like when did it turn into this weird mad game where no one's like sort of boringly talking about procedure.
00:19:16.000He said, while he understands those in violation of the law that day should face consequences, the ruling against Trump goes a step too far.
00:19:23.000That doesn't mean that the people responsible for that day shouldn't be held accountable, but to call this an insurrection for the purposes of disqualification would create a slippery slope for every state in the union.
00:19:33.000In a sense, you should be able to, as I've said before, take the nouns out and still have the same impression.
00:19:39.000This Riot was as a result of this issue, this many people were hurt, this much damage was done and then later you can say January the 6th or this social issue and you would have the same view.
00:19:50.000That's principles and that's legislation.
00:19:52.000When everything is interpretive and the mobilisation and weaponisation of the law because of the sort of vendetta, then And it creates the kind of trust that Barack Obama's saying is only caused by independent media.
00:20:03.000That's what they'll say, because of Trump's mad vocal supporters, people will doubt this legitimate piece of legislature.
00:20:09.000But even me, looking at this, I don't have a dog in the fight.
00:20:47.000This is a false equivalency and also, I believe, a distraction from the type of dictatorship that seems to me more likely now.
00:20:54.000A kind of bureaucratic, Reasoned, rational, manipulative.
00:20:59.000We found a law back in the old days that we can mobilise here.
00:21:02.000What if we call January 6th an insurrection instead of a riot?
00:21:05.000What if we say that Trump's been convicted of insurrection?
00:21:08.000What if we say this law can be applied to the presidency?
00:21:11.000All of that is a new form of tyranny, using bureaucracy, a kind of technological bureaucratic dictatorship, the same kind as we have over here in Europe, where Thierry Breton, a bureaucrat, We've got to take down Musk.
00:21:23.000We've got to take down X. And they just sort of like an insidious fog creep in and suffocate dissenting voices.
00:21:49.000So unless you start going, well these people might be, you know, fundamentalist Muslim and these people might be radical, progressive, gay folk or whatever it is.
00:21:56.000Unless you start believing in actual freedom, principles, where you actually don't care.
00:21:59.000You just say, these people should be able to run their own community.
00:22:01.000They should have individual sovereignty.
00:22:02.000They should have community sovereignty.
00:22:06.000Unless those kind of ideas, as well as the ideas espoused here by Jonathan Turley, like, hold on a minute, this doesn't seem democratic, it's overreach.
00:22:12.000Unless that kind of stuff starts reaching us again, what we're gonna get is a kind of, a bit like in Star Wars, where that machine just sort of crushes them in the sludge.
00:22:20.000That's what's happening now. That's what we're all experiencing.
00:22:22.000Radio! Do you copy? Shut down all the garbage machines on the detention level!
00:22:28.000You can dislike Trump, you can believe he's responsible for January the 6th, but this isn't the way to do it.
00:22:32.000This is hands down the most anti-democratic opinion I've seen in my life.
00:22:36.000What we've got to get to is the point where you go, I don't like Donald Trump, I disagree with Donald Trump on almost everything, but this is mental.
00:22:42.000Until we get to that point, you've got to have a war.
00:22:44.000And I reckon the reason we're at this point, really, is because we all recognise that politics has been corrupted by corporate globalism, and it's a sham, and so people are just reaching for stuff that has emotional power.
00:22:56.000Whether that's the emotional power of, I love this guy, he's funny, he's outspoken, or, I hate this guy, he's a misogynist, I hate... Like, he's emotionally charging people, because that's all that's left.
00:23:05.000Because we know it's a uni-party dictatorship already.
00:23:10.000More than two-fifths of Americans believe civil war is at least somewhat likely in the next 10 years, according to a 2022 survey, a figure that increases to more than half among self-identified strong Republicans.
00:23:23.000Participants were asked, looking ahead to the next 10 years, how likely is it, do you think, that there'll be a civil war in this country?
00:23:30.000Among all US citizens, 43% said civil war was at least somewhat likely.
00:23:35.000Among strong Democrats and Independents, that figure was 40%, but among strong Republicans, 54% said civil war was at least somewhat likely.
00:23:43.000What I feel that is happening, because of the unconscious activity that's happening in media and politics right now, is they're inadvertently providing a charge that could lead from the kind of dystopic malaise that most people live within, glumly, just like, oh god, I'll watch the telly, I'll eat some sugar, I'll drink some booze, I'll do some drugs, into a kind of Oh well, it's on!
00:24:02.000That's the risk I think that's currently being toyed with.
00:24:04.000Surveys show Americans find it increasingly important to live around people who share their political values.
00:24:09.000Animosity towards those in the opposing party is higher than at any time in living memory.
00:24:15.00042% of registered voters believe Americans in the other party are downright evil.
00:24:19.000We've created a state and a situation where through media irresponsibility, I would suggest, and I would say legacy media rather than independent media, you've created two utterly polarised camps.
00:24:29.000This is always a problem that's laying at the feet of independent media and social media more broadly.
00:24:34.000Look at how ordinary TV shows now, like old school things that have been going on since the 1960s, will propagandise for the establishment, will condemn 50% of the population.
00:24:45.000This was a silly move to present someone that was popular, that touched the nerve, that has massive support, as a lunatic and an extremist.
00:24:52.000And it was a risk that was undertaken deliberately because I think establishment politicians of both sides knew they couldn't compete with someone that could reach people, that could reach into the anger and the dissatisfaction and go, hey, do you want things to change?
00:25:08.000We'll stop running foundations that take money.
00:25:10.000We'll stop taking half a million dollars for after-dinner speakers.
00:25:13.000We'll stop leaving presidential offices and doing loads of movies and prestigious projects and acting like we're better than you the whole time and having super fancy parties and claiming that we care about social justice.
00:25:22.000They lost the moral high ground but they wanted to retain it and the only way to do that was to demonize, repress and claim that half the population were Essentially subhuman.
00:25:32.000And then to point out when there was populist rhetoric on the other side, ah, that sounds a bit Nazi.
00:25:38.000I think that if you create the conditions for this kind of oppositionism, you have to ultimately pay a price and they'll never pay that price because they can't change because they are co-opted and owned by interests that are beyond anything that they might claim to believe in.
00:25:58.000Almost 40% would be upset at the prospect of their child marrying someone from the opposite party.
00:26:03.000Even before the 2020 election, when asked if violence would be justified if the other party won the election, 18.3% of Democrats and 13.8% of Republicans responded in the affirmative.
00:26:13.000That's astonishing that the Democrats, thankfully, they don't have the guns.
00:26:16.000Increasingly, each America is running under different laws.
00:26:19.000America will still be America, but it's fast becoming two versions of America.
00:26:23.000The open question is like the one faced by every couple that separates.
00:26:27.000How will the two find ways to be civil toward each other?
00:26:30.000So, whatever you think about Donald Trump being taken off the ballot in Colorado, it does seem that it's quite manipulative and that sophistry has been involved.
00:26:38.000Like, Ah, if we say this and it was this and that was that, you know, if we claim that it was an insurrection, if we claim that he caused the insurrection, if we imagine that he's been convicted of insurrection, using these laws we can delegitimize Trump's candidacy.
00:26:50.000That, for me, is a further doubling down on the lack of understanding that caused these conditions in the first place.
00:26:57.000People are disillusioned with politics in the United States for reasons that are plain and obvious.
00:27:02.000By claiming that this lightning rod of populism is in himself the problem, they're refusing
00:27:07.000to acknowledge the causes of the conditions.
00:27:09.000It astonishes me that this is happening.
00:27:11.000Interestingly and intriguingly, what's now being revealed is that America is not a country
00:27:27.000People start to realise, could we unify in a decentralised independent movement against this uniparty corruption and all have more sovereignty in our own lives?
00:27:36.000Individual sovereignty, community sovereignty, national sovereignty.
00:27:39.000Wouldn't all of us ultimately do a deal to be left alone to live how we want to live with those we love in our own community, free from the intervention of the state and the tyranny of corporate globalism.