Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 16, 2025


Hollywood Hypocrisy and Fighting Corruption: Rob Schneider Speaks Out! – SF521


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 16 minutes

Words per Minute

149.76999

Word Count

11,395

Sentence Count

751

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

In this episode, Russell Brand sits down with Rob Schneider to discuss his new role as a Democratic presidential candidate in 2020. They talk about why Rob is running for president, why he's running, and what it's like to be a politician in Hollywood.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:03:30.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:03:32.000 And it's an extraordinarily special episode that we're bringing you because I've got a fantastic conversation coming up with Rob Schneider.
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00:03:58.000 Rob Schneider, you may know from SNL, from all of his Sandler movies, or from his puckish, playful spirit.
00:04:03.000 You may have seen him recently in alternative media.
00:04:06.000 You may have seen him talking increasingly about political issues.
00:04:10.000 What I know about Rob Schneider is he has this incredible sense of play about him.
00:04:14.000 In our conversation, we talk about Hollywood.
00:04:17.000 What it's like to feel embraced by the culture and celebrated and then rejected and purred.
00:04:24.000 It's an extraordinary experience and a brilliant conversation.
00:04:27.000 I think that Rob Schneider is a brilliant example of how modern media makes autodidacts of us all.
00:04:32.000 Suddenly we all are well-versed in subjects like how the food industry learned from the tobacco industry, how to addict us to its products.
00:04:40.000 And now all of us know how institutional politics and centralised media operates.
00:04:44.000 It's a brilliant conversation and I hope you will enjoy it.
00:04:48.000 Before you do see it though, remember that on Rumble Premium you can watch my conversations on Break Bread.
00:04:53.000 This week I spoke to Dallas Jenkins, creator of The Chosen.
00:04:56.000 It's a fantastic conversation, as you can see from that picture there.
00:05:00.000 It's available on Rumble Premium.
00:05:02.000 Go check it out now.
00:05:05.000 Okay, without further dillying, dallying, hullabaloo or nonsense, here's my conversation with Rob Schneider.
00:05:11.000 Rob, thanks for joining us.
00:05:12.000 Thank you for your leadership during all these crazy years.
00:05:19.000 All I want...
00:05:21.000 Thank you.
00:05:22.000 I only want to discuss daddy-daughter trip.
00:05:24.000 That's the only thing I want to discuss today.
00:05:28.000 It came up on...
00:05:29.000 I'm not interested in censorship.
00:05:32.000 I'm not interested in SNL. I'm not interested in making the movement from mainstream to the periphery.
00:05:39.000 I'm not interested in the concept of coolness.
00:05:44.000 You know?
00:05:48.000 I'll tell you when this came to my mind, Rob.
00:05:50.000 When I was at the RNC, I was there at that minute when Hulk Hogan tore off his top and went, MY PRESIDENT! And I thought, oh my god, what is this?
00:06:00.000 What am I part of now?
00:06:03.000 And then I thought, well, how is this really any different from George Clooney, you know, sort of like, or Taylor Swift or anyone?
00:06:11.000 You know, the idea of a celebrity endorsement, the idea of there being hierarchies and categories of cool.
00:06:19.000 Now, one of the people that you've...
00:06:21.000 It exposed what it really was.
00:06:24.000 It's all performance.
00:06:26.000 It all is.
00:06:27.000 It's all a theater.
00:06:29.000 What it did is, I think it's at least, for one thing, our side isn't being paid, unlike Oprah Winfrey.
00:06:38.000 I mean, I was talking to one of her friends recently, because when she lied and said, like, you may never get to vote again if you don't vote for Kamala.
00:06:46.000 And I was like, that is just such a blatant, bold-faced, ugly lie.
00:06:51.000 It's one thing to want to support somebody.
00:06:54.000 You know, and because you're a lifetime Democrat or whatever, but to somebody to just lie that blatantly, there's just got to be something behind it.
00:07:01.000 I want to know what the thinking was there.
00:07:04.000 So, you know, I thought when he, you know, politics has degraded so much, but forget about the degradation of it.
00:07:13.000 If you think about what the exposing for what it really is.
00:07:21.000 The ugliness of it.
00:07:22.000 And I think we've been able to really kind of see it now so clearly.
00:07:27.000 And maybe it's always been there.
00:07:29.000 So there was all this artifice.
00:07:31.000 It also reminds me of that thing in The Godfather where Michael Corleone is talking to Diane Keaton's character.
00:07:38.000 And she says, you know, but that's your father is doing these horrible, you know, that scene.
00:07:44.000 And he said...
00:07:48.000 How naive is that, that you don't know what your father is capable of doing?
00:07:53.000 And then he explains, Michael Corleone says, yes, but my father's not anything different than a senator or a president or a governor.
00:08:03.000 And she says, that's naive.
00:08:06.000 And she said, well...
00:08:08.000 Who's naive now?
00:08:09.000 You know, I think I'm butchering that scene completely.
00:08:11.000 She goes, she goes, congressmen and senators don't have people killed, Michael.
00:08:16.000 And he said, now who's being naive?
00:08:19.000 And I think, yeah, we're seeing that sort of, really, that's what's been exposed.
00:08:25.000 It's like, say if you watch the Democratic Convention.
00:08:27.000 Like my shitty version to or maybe couldn't remember it You missed all of the key details of it entire bit Rob I Now you've turned to an acai bowl for comfort.
00:08:56.000 Yeah, because I suppose, look, what I wanted to somewhat talk about is the branding of politics.
00:09:02.000 And when I watch the DNC versus the RNC, I recognise that what it is is the production.
00:09:10.000 It was slick.
00:09:11.000 It looked like the award shows that I used to participate in.
00:09:15.000 And as I've moved right out of that space, like out of Hollywood, out of making movies, out of some of those relationships and friendships, there are so many things packed into the cultural space that we now live in.
00:09:29.000 That it's inferior, that it's racist, that it's somehow contaminated.
00:09:37.000 And at points I felt like...
00:09:39.000 Oh, wow.
00:09:40.000 Let's say when the Golden Globes is on, Rob.
00:09:42.000 Do you feel, like, how, because I've noticed this when I hang out with you, it's really weird to be part of Hollywood and to be part of them institutions.
00:09:50.000 And I've seen that you, like, once when we did a thing with Tucker, I saw that we were doing, like, a signing, like, you know, when you meet and greet, kind of meet and greet afterwards.
00:09:59.000 And I think, like, a lot of people, that can be kind of hard to do that if you're not doing it in the right spirit, like, you know, sort of, you know, especially when it's someone else's event and you're just an appendage, really.
00:10:09.000 Like, you feel like, do I even need to be here for this?
00:10:11.000 I thought, look, Rob's able to go into a really numb, almost catatonic state to get through this experience.
00:10:21.000 And I wonder...
00:10:23.000 Hollywood is this elitist thing.
00:10:29.000 And first of all, before you're in, you're trying to get in.
00:10:34.000 And then when you're in, the whole time you're in, it's like, am I in?
00:10:37.000 Am I really in?
00:10:38.000 How in am I? Am I in deeply?
00:10:41.000 And then there's, it's like the most, I remember Peter Riegert, who was this wonderful actor from Local Hero and from Animal House.
00:10:48.000 He said to me, you do realize that you decided to make a living in the most elitist art form ever invented, show business.
00:10:56.000 It is, because you can, you know, I remember this one actress that I met, she was English, which is also, believe it or not, you guys can be very elitist as well.
00:11:05.000 No, no.
00:11:07.000 I've already worked with three.
00:11:09.000 Academy Award winning directors and actors and writers.
00:11:14.000 And it is.
00:11:16.000 And then once you're in, there's this level, and then there's this level, and this level.
00:11:22.000 And so, yeah, it's an odd thing.
00:11:25.000 But once you accept that you don't need it, or you don't feel like it offers anything to you, then they can't touch you anymore.
00:11:32.000 So that's an interesting thing.
00:11:34.000 So, like, when you feel like that necessity, I never felt in any way, you know, and I always felt like, you know, the comedies were more fun and more difficult.
00:11:45.000 I remember I was with, I think, our mutual friend John Cleese, and I was saying, tell me about your friend Adam Sandler.
00:11:55.000 And I said, what is he doing?
00:11:58.000 I said, he's doing, you know, these dramas.
00:12:02.000 And I said, it's because, and he said, I think the word you're looking for is easier.
00:12:11.000 It, dramas, I mean, comedies are more difficult.
00:12:16.000 They just really are.
00:12:17.000 And, but because it seems so frivolous and silly, even though it's, you know, the people in it and doing it realize how the difficulty of it, it is.
00:12:27.000 But what I guess I'm getting back to is this.
00:12:31.000 That kind of elitist feeling of, you know, are you in?
00:12:35.000 Are you not in?
00:12:35.000 Are you not really in?
00:12:36.000 Are you not that level or this category?
00:12:39.000 And it's all a game.
00:12:41.000 And it's all, you know, I think in the same thing with this political thing where they feel that you have to fit into that.
00:12:48.000 And if you can't be outside that group, and that group is that liberal intelligentsia, it's that Democrat group.
00:12:55.000 And if you're out of it, you're out.
00:12:57.000 And there's no, as you know, there is no way of forgiveness, and there is no, it's a vindictive set of people, and once you're out, you're out.
00:13:11.000 I mean, once I made a joke about, like, you know, Hillary Clinton when she lost, I said, I haven't seen the Democrats this pissed off since we freed the slaves.
00:13:21.000 That was kind of it.
00:13:25.000 Yeah, there's no way back.
00:13:27.000 There's no way back.
00:13:28.000 Rob, what have you got your laptop resting on?
00:13:31.000 Like an aquarium, some jello, springs?
00:13:34.000 Like every time you gesticulate, it's like the whole system is vibrating.
00:13:40.000 Yeah.
00:13:41.000 What have you got?
00:13:43.000 Let's get the mystery out of the way.
00:13:45.000 Look at that.
00:13:46.000 Monopoly?
00:13:47.000 Right.
00:13:50.000 Ah!
00:13:51.000 Wicked-branded monopoly.
00:13:52.000 While you claim to decry the system of Hollywood, you yourself are resting upon a literal monopoly, Rob.
00:14:00.000 A literal monopoly.
00:14:02.000 I remember feeling when I was part of that Hollywood scene.
00:14:04.000 By the way, we've been in one film together.
00:14:06.000 I bet you don't know what that film is.
00:14:09.000 I bet you can't remember.
00:14:10.000 When I was part of that system...
00:14:11.000 Bedtime stories.
00:14:12.000 Yes, yes.
00:14:14.000 When I was part of it, I really felt like...
00:14:18.000 You know, you're right.
00:14:20.000 Like, there is a feeling of, am I in enough?
00:14:22.000 Am I in enough?
00:14:22.000 And, like, being around, like, Sandler, I always thought of him as a pretty unique individual, even then.
00:14:30.000 Here were the things I thought, this guy's probably Republican, and at that time you couldn't even talk about it.
00:14:36.000 You sort of, it was like, wow.
00:14:39.000 Yeah, that would have made you a pariah, like it was something that couldn't be discussed at that time, I remember that.
00:14:46.000 I also remember thinking that he had...
00:14:49.000 He anchored himself somehow in normalness in a way that seemed somewhat unique in that world.
00:14:56.000 Like he appeared to have authentic friendships and relationships and a kind of a decency that seemed really unusual and really came to the forefront when he got that Mark Twain, or at least it was visible, when he got that Mark Twain award.
00:15:09.000 And I see you and Spade and all of your crew sort of honouring him.
00:15:20.000 They didn't want me to be there, by the way, CNN. They didn't want anything to do with me there.
00:15:25.000 They wanted this.
00:15:27.000 Does Rob have to tell jokes?
00:15:29.000 I remember because one of the segment producers, a friend of mine, said, does Rob really want to?
00:15:33.000 I mean, can we get him?
00:15:35.000 Do we need him?
00:15:35.000 And it's like, well, it would be very odd and very obvious for your show how jaded it is.
00:15:42.000 And I actually ran in at the airport for one of the Mark Twain I guess she's one of the directors on the board of directors of that award show.
00:15:52.000 And I said, can you please think about, you know, like maybe a Gutfeld or something like that, somebody that you, you know, that somebody who's Republican, who's outwardly Republican, honoring.
00:16:04.000 And after I thanked her for also honoring Adam Sandler, and she said, and I said, why don't you, you know, go for somebody Republican.
00:16:12.000 And she said, outwardly.
00:16:15.000 And she said to me, wouldn't that be divisive?
00:16:18.000 So only divisive within their own liberal group.
00:16:23.000 They don't want to be divisive within Democrats.
00:16:25.000 So that's kind of where they're at.
00:16:28.000 And I think that that's why they're so...
00:16:31.000 Inside their bubble, that they couldn't understand how the American, they're so far left that they left the Americans behind, the American people.
00:16:40.000 And they couldn't see it, and they don't want to see it.
00:16:43.000 And that's why they're still so confused as to why that form of elitism, which is Hollywood, which is leftism, which is, you know, the current form of it.
00:16:54.000 The liberal intelligentsia, they just don't like Americans.
00:16:58.000 They don't.
00:16:59.000 I mean, they shit on them so much, Russell.
00:17:01.000 That's what's so frustrating to me.
00:17:03.000 These people in the cities in Los Angeles and New York, they don't understand it.
00:17:07.000 They crap on it like, how dare these people vote Republican?
00:17:10.000 These are the people.
00:17:11.000 These are farmers.
00:17:12.000 These are people growing their food, providing their families with a way to survive.
00:17:18.000 These are the people.
00:17:19.000 And it's not just the people outside of California.
00:17:22.000 It's people in California that are growing the food in California that are only about two hours away from them.
00:17:28.000 And these are the people they despise.
00:17:33.000 You know, Americans are good people.
00:17:35.000 And to be trying to convince them that they're racist and that they're awful and that they're not generous and that they're inherently white supremacists.
00:17:45.000 I mean, it's all nonsense and garbage.
00:17:47.000 And it's divisive.
00:17:49.000 And that hatefulness was finally rejected.
00:17:52.000 For the rest of this conversation, click the link in the description where it will be exclusively streamed on Rumble.
00:17:59.000 It's interesting because when they were talking about...
00:18:01.000 When Kamala was running and they asked her, you know, what would you do differently than Joe Biden?
00:18:08.000 She said, I can't, nothing comes to mind.
00:18:10.000 And neither, you know, when Oprah was talking or when, you know, whether it was Bruce Springsteen, these are people who were giants in the industry and they couldn't articulate.
00:18:22.000 Anything that the democratic policy stood for.
00:18:25.000 Because democratic policies have been failures.
00:18:27.000 And these super rich people can afford to continue the democratic failures because they live in gated communities.
00:18:35.000 They live in a community that's gated within a gated community.
00:18:38.000 But the average American person was susceptible to the failures of these democratic policies.
00:18:45.000 And that's why they lost so badly.
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00:20:40.000 I started to feel like...
00:20:43.000 Yes, Rob, I forgot what the question was some hours ago.
00:20:47.000 I'm still thinking about the Monopoly board.
00:20:49.000 I feel like that lack of integral belief is right at the heart of what we're experiencing.
00:20:57.000 that that kind of what poses as liberalism, which is really kind of neoliberalism, which is really just superficial nods to certain cultural ideas, somehow with the extraction of basic virtues like compassion and kindness, has been what's somehow with the extraction of basic virtues like compassion and kindness, has been what's masking centralist politics
00:21:19.000 From Bill Clinton and Tony Blair onwards, once the democratic policies were no longer really economically supportive of ordinary people, who I agree with you, I reckon they actually dislike, strongly dislike, they don't like ordinary American strongly dislike, they don't like ordinary American people or ordinary British people, the elitism...
00:21:41.000 ...is rampant, raw and religious, and that might be the only religion that you'd find in their midst as well, a kind of self-serving individualism, which became sort of normalised from the 80s onwards, the idea that all you really are supposed to be doing is ornament in yourself, fulfilling yourself, the fetishisation of our basic nature, the turning of our basic nature into a culture and then a religion.
00:22:07.000 And since coming to Christ, I don't want to jump into that too deeply yet.
00:22:10.000 But it explains pretty clearly what false idolatry is really about.
00:22:15.000 Now, like, you know, what me and you, as occupants, former occupants of that world, where, I don't know, it didn't seem so contentious for me.
00:22:22.000 Like, you know, you came up in that sort of the most magnificent and fated of ways to be an SNL cast regularly, one of the great casts on SNL, working with some of the best SNL performers that there have ever been, and a deserved member of that group.
00:22:38.000 I... Feel like it's very easy to believe when you find yourself in those situations.
00:22:42.000 This must be sort of warranted.
00:22:45.000 And deserved, even if you still have self-doubt, even if you don't feel entirely fulfilled.
00:22:51.000 And then, over time, you start to recognise, oh, you're just a sort of a kind of an object in a sort of a...
00:22:56.000 You're just an object that can be used and deployed and discarded.
00:23:01.000 It's so extraordinary for me, and so clear, that for a minute, my hedonism and the way that I was sort of presented culturally, and presented myself as well, I'm not saying I'm some sort of innocent, I didn't see how really what was unexpressed but present was you are an avatar for a
00:23:31.000 kind of...
00:23:32.000 Empty, hollow, shallow, selfish individualism that we kind of revere because it prevents people being connected to things that really matter.
00:23:42.000 Community, family, God.
00:23:46.000 It's an oddly nihilistic world.
00:23:48.000 And when he was saying a minute ago about how...
00:23:50.000 You know, people can't point to that party's policies.
00:23:55.000 I suppose there isn't really anything really there.
00:23:57.000 I don't think they actually really care about the vulnerable, in inverted commas, minority groups that they claim to care about.
00:24:05.000 I feel that really all that they're doing is finding ways to mask the interests of powerful elites behind different ideas that slow down, prevent and limit...
00:24:17.000 Conversation.
00:24:18.000 And it's just so odd that people like you and me, who are just like, you know, really entertainers like you, mate, are proper funny.
00:24:27.000 Funny bones, they would call that in Britain.
00:24:30.000 Someone that can do impressions, that can do voices, that can do a variety of characters, that the way you move, the way you look is funny.
00:24:38.000 Old school funny has somehow found yourself, along with me, in some sort of weird cultural space.
00:24:46.000 I find the culture must have changed a lot.
00:24:49.000 We could have played the game and continued playing the game.
00:24:52.000 I just found it to be...
00:24:56.000 I couldn't.
00:24:57.000 There must have been something in me that, you know, that's why Jesus only lets you stray so far.
00:25:05.000 I feel like I was wrapped up in the game.
00:25:08.000 I was completely into it, and I wanted to be part of it all.
00:25:11.000 And I never was completely accepted that I felt.
00:25:14.000 And that saved me.
00:25:15.000 I mean, it really did.
00:25:16.000 Well, Jesus saved me.
00:25:19.000 There is a godlessness in Hollywood, which is so obvious.
00:25:23.000 And their idolatry really is on what they say you have achieved and what you are.
00:25:34.000 And they'll give you a statuette that says, look.
00:25:42.000 You have played the game.
00:25:44.000 And I'm not taking away from the wonderful people in our business who have achieved things.
00:25:49.000 It's just that it ends up being, it's an emptiness that I've found.
00:25:53.000 And then, you know, when you finally do come to, now we're jumping into Christianity here, but the idea that, like, I don't care what people think about me.
00:26:05.000 I'm not going to worry about what the world thinks about me.
00:26:08.000 And then...
00:26:11.000 The grade test would be, oh yeah, you don't care what people say about you?
00:26:15.000 Yeah, I think I'm over that.
00:26:16.000 I think I can get over that.
00:26:18.000 And I realize what's happening, that there is a darkness that is coming, whether it happened 100 years ago, 1923, 1924, and it's happening again, and it ushered in through this one world kind of evil, neo.
00:26:34.000 Neoliberalism, which is truthfully, and the Republicans under Bush was just the same thing.
00:26:39.000 It's not just one party, and it's not just one party in England or anywhere.
00:26:45.000 So when you kind of wake up to this and you realize that there seems to be a wave of evil, whether it's coming now or what have you, and you say, okay, I'm not going to worry about what the world thinks about me.
00:26:59.000 I'm going to let go of that.
00:27:01.000 I'm only going to worry about God in my family and country.
00:27:07.000 And they said, yeah, what about somebody says something in your own family?
00:27:12.000 Can you let that go too?
00:27:14.000 Or are you going to have your ego still attached to that?
00:27:17.000 So that's a real test.
00:27:18.000 And the test is really of faith.
00:27:24.000 You really have to let go.
00:27:25.000 And you really have to cling to it.
00:27:27.000 And you really have to go, I'm going to go through this fire.
00:27:34.000 And when you realize, you know, I've been working on this story about the burial cloth of Jesus Christ for the Shroud of Turin for many years.
00:27:44.000 And you're realizing that the price that was paid, it's like, my goodness.
00:27:49.000 He was beaten to a pulp.
00:27:52.000 And I think if Christ was, you would see that it would happen again, because there is a goodness that does threaten people, because it makes you...
00:28:07.000 Makes you question yourself, too.
00:28:09.000 To rise.
00:28:10.000 Can you...
00:28:11.000 I mean, as the Bible says, you know, it's easy to love your brother.
00:28:17.000 I mean, that's not special.
00:28:18.000 To love your enemy.
00:28:20.000 To love someone who's trying to destroy you.
00:28:23.000 I mean, it really does call you to a higher...
00:28:26.000 To be truly a better human being.
00:28:31.000 And I think that's a beautiful thing.
00:28:32.000 And so for people who are, you know, at this time...
00:28:35.000 Looking for something.
00:28:37.000 I mean, I think that example of Christ's example is so powerful that it just, it does, it makes me realize how far, how far I have to go and how far I've fallen and how far and what that gift for us is.
00:28:58.000 And now what do we do with it?
00:29:00.000 And as I say, like, Russell, like...
00:29:03.000 For you and me and for this, as we're moving forward, what do we do with this now?
00:29:09.000 Where do we go forward and how can we...
00:29:12.000 What is it?
00:29:14.000 And I just, you know, through prayer and through my faith and my family, I want to see where this goes.
00:29:20.000 And it's not going to be up to me.
00:29:22.000 It's like where I feel like when I followed, when I listened to you, I feel like there's a calling that you've been...
00:29:31.000 You've been given.
00:29:32.000 And I do think it comes from people who come from a very silly beginning and a place of just trying to get as much out of it as we could, which is what Hollywood is.
00:29:44.000 It's like, it's just for me, what can I get?
00:29:47.000 What is it going to take to this and that?
00:29:49.000 And then to have that taken away from you or to realize that there is a, when you try to do something, a higher calling.
00:29:59.000 And when you kind of see, like, for me, it was seeing the rise of evil and how quickly the world can turn.
00:30:07.000 And then you can't just ignore it anymore.
00:30:09.000 You can't just go along with it and just be a part of the system.
00:30:13.000 You're going to have to acknowledge that there are some things that are happening.
00:30:21.000 And once you acknowledge it, you can't unknow it.
00:30:25.000 And once you see the harm that's happening, whether it's children in our society, and that's why, you know, our friend, you know, Robert Kennedy is really outrageous that the fact that we have someone who's about to be in a position of power who can actually help things.
00:30:43.000 That was amazing.
00:30:44.000 I had a comedian, you know, we're all very jaded comedians.
00:30:47.000 This comedian, really funny comedian, he called me and said, I can't believe he actually has a chance to get in.
00:30:55.000 Because if he gets in, if Bobby Kennedy gets in, he might have a chance to actually do something good.
00:31:02.000 I just remember him being at a place where he didn't see that coming.
00:31:11.000 And so I think that there is a goodness that is coming.
00:31:15.000 And I think that Jesus and Christ compels those people to come forward now.
00:31:24.000 And I think that God picked strange people.
00:31:29.000 He picked a stuttering shepherd to lead people out of Egypt.
00:31:35.000 So there are strange people that are picked.
00:31:38.000 And I sat with these priests here in Phoenix, and they were talking about Donald Trump's presidency.
00:31:47.000 And like, my goodness, there's a real chance here to...
00:31:52.000 To do some good things and people that you would have never expected.
00:31:55.000 And I do think the United States is an important...
00:32:02.000 And this election was important for the world.
00:32:06.000 I mean, I felt a sigh of relief.
00:32:08.000 I mean, people called me from several, you know, from different countries all over the world saying, thank you.
00:32:12.000 And I said, I had nothing to do with it.
00:32:14.000 But I said, but thank you for America.
00:32:16.000 You know, because...
00:32:18.000 We feel that there's a sense of hope now.
00:32:20.000 We feel like this totalitarian grip that was happening on the world.
00:32:24.000 I mean, just think about this week and seeing, you know, the dictator to the north, Justin Trudeau, who called his own freedom-fighting truckers terrorists.
00:32:36.000 And froze their bank accounts and put them in prison and called them terrorists.
00:32:41.000 I mean, I can't, and for him stepping down now, you see, well, the leader in Italy, hopefully she will, you know, come around to what she was, how she was elected in the first place was to oppose this, I mean, really the Sovietization of Europe.
00:33:00.000 So there's a chance to really...
00:33:04.000 To be a buttress against this kind of one world order that we're seeing.
00:33:09.000 And that's what, you know, when the new world order was trying to close down the world the last few years, the one thing they didn't see coming was people.
00:33:26.000 On podcasts, standing up and being able to communicate and talk.
00:33:29.000 Because they knew where they were able to control the tech companies.
00:33:32.000 They had those.
00:33:33.000 For sure, they had the newspapers.
00:33:34.000 For sure, they had Google search engine.
00:33:37.000 They were able to really squelch things through the mainstream media.
00:33:41.000 But they were not able to realize that in their big power grab, that there was a Joe Rogan.
00:33:50.000 That there was a Tucker Carlson.
00:33:51.000 That there was a Russell Brand.
00:33:54.000 You know, so that was what was the shining light for people.
00:33:58.000 Excuse me, Rob.
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00:35:35.000 It was a significant moment and it changed the world and it changed a lot of people.
00:35:41.000 And that's as good a appraisal of it, Rob, that...
00:35:44.000 As I've heard before, that they knew they had the control of the media, they knew their control of social media through big tech, but they didn't recognise that with...
00:35:55.000 In it, there would be individual voices that were representatives of or conduits for larger communities and concerns that had been maligned, neglected, rejected to a ridiculous degree, to the point where people kind of forgot that those communities were there.
00:36:12.000 And it somewhat dovetails with what we were talking about with Hollywood earlier.
00:36:16.000 Of course, America, in the old taxonomies or categories that are largely now being redefined, has always been roughly 50-50 split.
00:36:25.000 Generally speaking, elections in your country are kind of pretty close between those two parties.
00:36:30.000 So the idea that Hollywood has no representation of one side of that divide is pretty implausible and kind of ridiculous.
00:36:39.000 But it got more and more extreme over time until it entirely incinerated the idea of sort of plain old fashioned Christianity.
00:36:50.000 You touched on a lot in your ideas.
00:36:52.000 Answer there, Rob, and I felt like that One of the things that I discuss a lot and think about frequently is that how many of our cultural institutions bring out the satanic, and so that don't sound hyperbolic, I'll explain a bit what I mean.
00:37:07.000 I see the figure of Satan somehow as the representative of selfishness.
00:37:13.000 So when I talk about that, I don't mean just plain satanic evil, although I'll be interested in inquiring more deeply as to what your thoughts are on that literal evil component, because you talked about children going missing and those kind of things.
00:37:28.000 And let's face it, we've both been inside Hollywood, so maybe we'll talk about what appears to be going on within those institutions of power and those parties.
00:37:37.000 But when I talk about satanic in a more What I mean is one of the qualities, perhaps, I don't know, you tell me, I ain't been Christian very long, the defining qualities of Lucifer is wanting to set up a false light, his own glory, apart from God and apart from Christ.
00:37:55.000 And I feel that when we were talking about the kind of coolness and cool kids component of the culture earlier in our conversation, what we're sort of saying is there's a false idolatry and reverence for things human that...
00:38:09.000 Often finds its fulfilment in the arts.
00:38:11.000 Oh, this is a really cool band.
00:38:13.000 This is a cool movie.
00:38:15.000 These are cool fashion labels and fragrances and colognes and foods.
00:38:19.000 Everything lacquered with this kind of odd individualistic, branding, market-led.
00:38:26.000 PR-spun idea that coolness could ever belong down here among human beings.
00:38:33.000 One of the weird byproducts of the Trump victory has been a kind of collapse of some of the political players and even movements that somehow fostered and contained all of that.
00:38:46.000 You mentioned...
00:38:47.000 Trudeau, the dictator from the north, that lacquered boy band Mussolini, or perhaps Fidel Castro, disappearing into the periphery.
00:38:58.000 And also we've seen Facebook kind of all just overnight.
00:39:03.000 Reorder and reorganise itself.
00:39:05.000 Oh, the fact-checkers were to blame.
00:39:06.000 The filters were to blame.
00:39:08.000 We weren't really censoring you.
00:39:10.000 And ultimately, plain old economics has led to them having to massively reconfigure their business model, invite Dana White to sit on their board.
00:39:20.000 A man who has just been...
00:39:22.000 To a fault, absolutely loyal to Trump prior to Trump even being involved in politics.
00:39:29.000 He just decided Trump was his mate and supported him absolutely, which are the kind of virtues that mean something.
00:39:35.000 Even if you disagree with someone politically, you can tell that loyalty and faithfulness are great values and virtues.
00:39:42.000 You also touched upon the figure of Bobby Kennedy, and when he emerged into the political space, I would say, I want to say...
00:39:49.000 To the left, but I know that in your country, the word left even is contaminated.
00:39:53.000 But what I mean by that is Bobby Kennedy was an anti-corporate politician.
00:39:59.000 He's anti-corruption.
00:40:02.000 A hero, yeah.
00:40:04.000 Liberals and Democrats.
00:40:06.000 Right, he's like...
00:40:08.000 Of the Democratic Party, for sure.
00:40:11.000 There's no other name that means more to the Democrats, are used to, than Kennedy.
00:40:19.000 And when he was dispatched and maligned and undermined and attacked by the same media that would attack Trump for being a racist or a rapist or whatever word they could throw at him, it became clear that, oh no, this is not about a particular objection to Trump.
00:40:35.000 It's an objection to anyone who poses a threat.
00:40:38.000 To their technological feudalism, to their sanitised and corporatised dictatorship, to their systems of elitism that they have to dress up in the garb and language of care and compassion.
00:40:52.000 And again, we peculiarly found ourselves in the midst of this, because when the first time we met one another was at a Bobby Kennedy fundraiser in Nashville, when Bobby was still running as an independent.
00:41:07.000 When Bobby emerged in the political space by running for president, that was one of the moments where I began to see more clearly what...
00:41:17.000 The real threat was, and you've used the term new world order, and it's as good a term as any, that there's a new form of globalism, sets of institutions, both corporate and governmental, but supported by media, which of course fall within the media component of what I just mentioned, the nature of that partnership, which had total control over information, total control over power.
00:41:38.000 And it's absurd to me that what ultimately is opposed to that is this new form of populism and nationalism, but it's not the same type of nationalism.
00:41:46.000 We saw a century ago, because it has different kind of edicts and different components.
00:41:52.000 But what's perhaps most interesting about what you just said, Rob, was that you have, in the mad and giddy midst of all this, been found by Christ, which again is another similarity and another thing that we share.
00:42:07.000 We've both been recently saved.
00:42:10.000 What I feel personally is...
00:42:13.000 Without realising it, I still worshipped the culture.
00:42:17.000 I still worshipped the false idol of success and fame.
00:42:21.000 And when, as we touched upon, when we were exchanging messages about this prior to having this chat, like, when I was actually cancelled, and you've just been sort of, I don't know, you've just seemed to have edged your way out of that situation.
00:42:36.000 Me, I was cancelled in a very hostile and aggressive and very definite way.
00:42:43.000 You were maligned, and it was after you had attacked some of the powers, the power structure, and you were able to really, when you were on Bill Maher, you were also very keenly aware of time,
00:43:00.000 and you were able to succinctly, you realized you had about 35 seconds to completely destroy and undermine this whole fascistic You know, attack on human beings and on the world and individual liberties and freedoms.
00:43:20.000 And you were able to describe and break down the structure of it.
00:43:25.000 And there's no accident right after that is when they attacked you.
00:43:31.000 And they didn't just attack you by...
00:43:34.000 By bringing up something with particular evidence, they wouldn't name people.
00:43:40.000 And then they also, your accusers, they didn't speak for themselves.
00:43:45.000 They had to have actors playing them.
00:43:48.000 That was really unique, which goes to show that there was a threat that you...
00:43:52.000 That you possessed to the very structures of what was happening and where they could not let it continue.
00:44:02.000 They had to do it.
00:44:04.000 And very much the same way with Bobby Kennedy was that his goal is to stop the poisoning of children and to really say, let's look at evidence.
00:44:18.000 And so what these people want to get rid of is evidence.
00:44:22.000 They want to get rid of facts.
00:44:25.000 They don't want to give any ounce of credence to something that could break the system and make it collapse.
00:44:35.000 Because it is, and it was, and it has collapsed.
00:44:38.000 And what they're trying to regroup and do, whatever, I don't know if it's bird flu or whatever, is to get control again.
00:44:45.000 And anyone who is going to question it, they will wipe you out.
00:44:51.000 And it's going to be direct attacks.
00:44:53.000 If you somehow survive because you were a particularly brilliant person, and also people know that you really do care deeply about people, and the same with Bobby Kennedy, there's a humanity which seems to rise.
00:45:10.000 From you, where you care about other human beings, and that comes from a place that is not corruptible, then that is a threat to it.
00:45:21.000 And after they try to go after you, and every article that they do with Bobby Kennedy, and then when they were done, when they couldn't destroy him, and he was still having literally 35% between 18-year-olds to 34-year-olds at one point.
00:45:38.000 He had 35% approval rating for that.
00:45:42.000 Then they do this death by ignorance, which they just black out.
00:45:47.000 They're not going to do anything.
00:45:48.000 They're not going to even do hit pieces because they're just not going to talk about you at all.
00:45:52.000 And that worked.
00:45:53.000 I mean, it did work.
00:45:54.000 However, and I think, you know, to Bobby's credit, was he realized, like, if he was going to do something...
00:46:01.000 And he reached out to Kamala Harris' campaign.
00:46:04.000 He told me this personally.
00:46:05.000 And they didn't even return his phone call because they don't want to change anything.
00:46:11.000 They have to have power wrestled from them.
00:46:14.000 And literally, and so, but when he reached out to the Trump campaign, 30 minutes later, he was on the phone with Trump himself, with President Trump.
00:46:24.000 And then two hours later, he was at a rally with him.
00:46:27.000 And you had a cheering crowd in my town where I live now, Phoenix, of a presidential nominee and a former president for the first time saying, we need to make America healthy again.
00:46:38.000 We need to get healthy food.
00:46:41.000 We need to get...
00:46:44.000 We need to talk about the capture of our regulatory agencies by industry.
00:46:51.000 I mean, that's outrageous that we would have, you know, we're only allowed to have two parties, which is one more than we have in China, by the way, because we're, you know, a democratic, we're a republic, a democratic republic.
00:47:03.000 So that was outrageous.
00:47:05.000 But it's only because people have woken up and it's only because...
00:47:11.000 People have been pushed to the brink, where 10,000 restaurants in the United States were wiped out during the pandemic, during the scandemic.
00:47:22.000 You had people's small businesses were closed, but you were allowed to Walmart was open and then you had Target was open.
00:47:31.000 And so it really was when they say the gigantic transfer of wealth, $7 trillion, it really was.
00:47:37.000 And it was just literally to try to wipe out and take away any chance for.
00:47:43.000 So you would have to just be dependent on the goodwill of those elitists and people in charge.
00:47:50.000 And, you know, so for the Hollywood celebrities who supported Kamala Harris, they're in that group, and there's nothing that's going to stop them from being in that group.
00:48:03.000 So I will say that this defeat really was...
00:48:08.000 For the world, an important event, because it was a rejection of this elitism, this totalitarianism, and whether it was...
00:48:20.000 A complete totalitarianism.
00:48:21.000 I think it was on the verge of becoming that way.
00:48:24.000 I think the censorship that was proven, this was stunning to me, from a lifelong Democrat, as a lifelong Democrat, who was pushed out because, you know, as Reagan said, which I didn't understand it, and as Bobby Kennedy says, like, hey, look, I didn't leave the Democratic Party.
00:48:40.000 The Democratic Party left me.
00:48:41.000 So when there was Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger getting the documents, From Elon Musk.
00:48:50.000 And thank God bless Elon Musk.
00:48:52.000 So when they were confronted, when the Democrats were confronted with this, and they had the congressional hearings because the Senate was still controlled by the Democrats.
00:49:05.000 They were able to have the congressional hearings where they were able to expose this, that they were exposed, that the Democrats, the Biden administration, had worked with Zuckerberg, had worked with Backdoor and asking and demanding that they silence these people and censor Americans and doctors, the first responders, nurses, scientists.
00:49:34.000 You had Boudicaria, Dr. Boudicaria, and these people were silenced when this was exposed and said, this is happening.
00:49:43.000 Instead of the Democrats saying, okay, this is wrong, we've got to re-correct this, they just doubled down and they attacked Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberg and Elon Musk.
00:49:52.000 So they had no intention of changing or doing anything.
00:49:56.000 They were just going to hold on to power until it was ripped away from them.
00:50:00.000 And that was really a chance for the Democratic Party to regroup.
00:50:04.000 And the only way that they were ever going to do it is if they got the shit beat out of them.
00:50:08.000 And like what just happened in this election, to realize that like, hey, listen, we're not going to put up with this crap anymore.
00:50:14.000 And it really was frustrating to watch, to see the Democratic Party completely become this totalitarian.
00:50:29.000 And so, how do we get out of it?
00:50:32.000 I mean, the only way to do it was to, I mean, I really feel like this election, truthfully, was a gigantic, important thing.
00:50:42.000 And you really do feel a sense of relief all over the world, the fact that there was this opposition that was really, you have a reversal now.
00:50:50.000 Because the Democratic Party, when I grew up, was always this...
00:50:54.000 It seemed like it was the party of the people and that they looked like America because it had, you know, it had black people, it had gay people, it had this.
00:51:01.000 And so, but it had turned into this, you know, 70% of the wealth in America is now owned by the Democrats.
00:51:07.000 It is.
00:51:08.000 So the party of the people now is the Republican Party.
00:51:10.000 But what, as I said earlier, what are we going to do with it?
00:51:13.000 What are we going to do with this change?
00:51:15.000 Are we going to use it for good or are we just going to become a different form of the machine?
00:51:19.000 And so how are we going to do it?
00:51:21.000 And I think we have to.
00:51:22.000 To ask ourselves, what are we going to do with this new power?
00:51:26.000 And it seems to be we've been given this gift by the American public, like a trust.
00:51:32.000 And I mean the conservative party now.
00:51:36.000 What are we going to do with it?
00:51:37.000 How are we going to improve people's lives?
00:51:39.000 And, you know, Donald Trump has to come through.
00:51:41.000 He has to really, this administration has to come through and stop the poisoning of our children, stop the poisoning of our people.
00:51:50.000 It is an unbelievable crime how they can, the former cigarette companies can buy up Nabisco and General Mills and Kraft and the same cigarette scientists who made cigarettes more Getting more addictive, so we keep smoking, and they put it into the processed food, and yet that food can't be sold to Canada or Europe.
00:52:12.000 I mean, this has to be changed.
00:52:14.000 And for the Democrats to oppose this, and for any Democrats in the Senate to oppose Bobby Kennedy, look out, because you are opposing America getting well and stopping the poisoning of our own children.
00:52:30.000 I mean, how...
00:52:31.000 I mean, how much more evil can that be if you're against, if you don't want Americans to be...
00:52:39.000 Not poisoned anymore.
00:52:40.000 So that's where we're at.
00:52:42.000 So what are we going to do with it?
00:52:43.000 Where are we going to lead this?
00:52:44.000 I mean, first of all, the Ukraine war has to end.
00:52:46.000 We have to get that.
00:52:47.000 That's one thing that, you know, I know that Donald Trump feels strongly about.
00:52:51.000 Bobby Kennedy does.
00:52:52.000 That slaughter needs to end.
00:52:54.000 And it's not like in any divorce.
00:52:56.000 It's not going to be perfect.
00:52:58.000 Ukraine's not going to get everything they want.
00:52:59.000 You know, like my ex-wife didn't get everything she wanted.
00:53:02.000 I didn't get everything I wanted.
00:53:03.000 But you have to have some sort of settlement.
00:53:05.000 The slaughter has to stop.
00:53:07.000 And for people in the United States that have I have problems with people in Europe who question, like, well, you know, my grocery prices are going up or this is happening or this conflict or politically, you know, I've been canceled.
00:53:18.000 Well, in Ukraine, these people, they're going to be traumatized for 30, 40 years to recover from this.
00:53:26.000 The people, you know, the slaughter that's happened on both sides and the high-tech slaughter with drones, just, you know, it's the most...
00:53:35.000 This despicable form of military now, where it seems like not just killing somebody with a gun, it looks like abject torture, what's happened to these soldiers.
00:53:47.000 These are human beings, too.
00:53:48.000 This slaughter has to stop.
00:53:50.000 And for the fact that they have American senators and congresspeople who are allowed to invest in the military-industrial complex and profit off it is disgusting, and that needs to stop.
00:54:01.000 We should not allow any politicians...
00:54:04.000 To benefit and to know ahead of time if we're going to have fund a conflict like in Ukraine and then somehow benefit financially from it.
00:54:12.000 If that isn't corrupt, then we need to change the word corrupt to something else.
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00:55:28.000 A few things that occurred to me while we were talking was like Hannah Arendt's phrase, the banality of evil, because the evil that we've come to take as...
00:55:38.000 The evil that has dominated our culture has been normalized to the point of invisibility.
00:55:45.000 When you talked about Bobby a little bit earlier, I was thinking about when Stephen Colbert just did long bits, attacking, criticizing, condemning, ridiculing Bobby Kennedy.
00:55:54.000 And I thought, wow, this is a man who's a...
00:55:57.000 Catholic, attacking another man who's a Catholic, and there's no acknowledgement that what Bobby Kennedy is really is a thorn in the side of some pretty powerful interests, and as you have acknowledged, he's unlikely to be perfect who among us is, but that it can be normal and acceptable to be dismissive of an...
00:56:24.000 Obvious opponent of powerful centralized interests and that the evil that the Democrat Party became the kind of avatar of was...
00:56:35.000 Became so sort of homogenised and ordinary and all singing and all dancing and all smiling.
00:56:42.000 And that we'd kind of come to accept that as an acceptable, as a placating and appealing veneer over, you know, just some of the things you've listed in your, and in fact, your last answer.
00:57:01.000 It points to how the world has changed, because I can see that you are well-versed in how tobacco companies took over big food and the addicting techniques that tobacco companies use are now deployed in the food industry.
00:57:14.000 And all of us now, if we want to be, are educated in such a vast array of subjects, not the kind of academic education that defined...
00:57:28.000 This course on old media, but this new, somewhat discursive, autodidactic awareness of like, hang on a minute, I know now that that's how that was funded.
00:57:39.000 Edward Bernays started the PR profession.
00:57:42.000 He used Freud's daylight.
00:57:43.000 All of us are sort of like, got all of this access to all of this information now.
00:57:46.000 That's what happened, Russell.
00:57:48.000 That's what happened with Jimmy Dore.
00:57:50.000 Who's a great man and a great comment.
00:57:53.000 When he said, when he commented, because what happens is there's a sort of brainwashing that happens by the CNN and by, you know, by Fox News and everything.
00:58:03.000 It's just, they start saying stuff and then you just becomes, you know, you keep saying it and saying it and saying it.
00:58:09.000 And then it takes really, what it was, was because the...
00:58:13.000 You know, truthfully, the academics were silenced because they were afraid of losing their tenure at university or getting fired.
00:58:20.000 And then you had the scientists and doctors.
00:58:23.000 You know, I had a scientist, a friend of mine, a professor of...
00:58:28.000 He's a professor of medicine.
00:58:30.000 He was at the NIH, and he didn't want anybody to quote him, and I couldn't quote him.
00:58:39.000 So the normal people in society who would question things were all silenced and kicked off social media and whatever, or kicked out of the debate.
00:58:51.000 So there was no more debate.
00:58:52.000 And so you had comedians like, you know, like yourself, like Rogan, Jimmy Dore.
00:58:58.000 And Jimmy Dore was the one who said, you know, they said, don't, you know, they were mocking you for doing your own research.
00:59:04.000 So don't do your own research.
00:59:06.000 And there's a meme of a girl sitting on the toilet doing research.
00:59:10.000 And Jimmy Dore's like, you don't want us to do our own research?
00:59:12.000 You mean read?
00:59:14.000 You don't want us to read?
00:59:16.000 They don't want us to think for ourselves.
00:59:18.000 They literally think of us as cattle.
00:59:21.000 They do.
00:59:21.000 At the highest level, wherever it's Rockefeller, all the way down, they think of us and treat us like we're cattle and that we're not capable of making.
00:59:30.000 I remember the great Englishman, not great, but the English statesman that said, he described it as the bewildered herd.
00:59:39.000 You can have somebody on your staff look that up who said that.
00:59:42.000 We cannot let the bewildered herd make their own decisions.
00:59:45.000 The bewildered herd, that's cattle.
00:59:47.000 And I don't even think of us, I think cattle would be a compliment to how they really see us.
00:59:52.000 I think they see us as like insects.
00:59:54.000 I think like Bill Gates looks at us like we're just a bunch of fleas.
00:59:58.000 I mean, I really don't, I think there's a, you know, so for the idea, through these podcasts and through these independent journalists, we had, and people who stepped away like Matt Taibbi.
01:00:10.000 Michael Schellenberg and dared question this thing and was able to, like, I mean, you could say this about the Democrats and say this about the liberals.
01:00:19.000 They knew what Elon Musk was going to do to Twitter.
01:00:22.000 They had an inkling that he was going to expose things.
01:00:25.000 They had an inkling that he was going to be conservative, that he had been talking and wanting free speech, and they knew it.
01:00:33.000 But they still are such whores.
01:00:35.000 Because at the end of the day, their real God is money.
01:00:37.000 And they took the $44 billion, which was overpaid, by the way.
01:00:43.000 But he didn't care because that was just 25% of his wealth at the time.
01:00:47.000 But he realized that there was something more important than wealth.
01:00:51.000 And that was to be what the potential of Twitter was and could be, which was a beacon for free speech in the world.
01:00:58.000 And that's, do you take America for better or for worse?
01:01:01.000 But that...
01:01:02.000 First Amendment to free speech is the beacon call for freedom to world order.
01:01:06.000 It is.
01:01:06.000 It is why people are swimming to get here and doing everything they can because that freedom of speech, they realized, our founding father said, a lot of things can happen.
01:01:16.000 However, the right to bear arms was the Second Amendment.
01:01:21.000 They could have made that first, but they realized, and George Washington realized and said that, the real...
01:01:28.000 The real thing we have against our protection against tyranny, more than guns, really, is our free speech.
01:01:36.000 That's what we need.
01:01:36.000 And so that has been the, and continues to be, our tool against tyranny.
01:01:44.000 And that really was able to...
01:01:49.000 What saved us, I think.
01:01:51.000 Even though they tried to, you know, Kamala Harris and Walsh described it as a privilege.
01:01:55.000 Because they would like to take, you can take a privilege away.
01:01:57.000 If you drink and drive, they can take your privilege away.
01:02:01.000 But you can drink and still talk.
01:02:04.000 Because see, that is your God-given constitutional protected right here in America.
01:02:10.000 And that is your right to free speech.
01:02:12.000 So you can be as drunk as you want and you can still talk.
01:02:14.000 And so for Stephen Cole...
01:02:17.000 To Stephen Colbert, never apologize for the dancing syringes.
01:02:21.000 And for a Jimmy Kimmel to never apologize for calling people like me who oppose the vaccine mandates wheezy and to let us die in the hospital corridor is shameful.
01:02:34.000 And it will always be a stain against them, not just as comedians, but as human beings, that they would cajole.
01:02:43.000 That they would ridicule and they would demonize their fellow citizens, their fellow human beings who decided that wanted to do something different and wanted to question this new gene-altering technology that was developed at warp speed.
01:03:02.000 And I really feel like that was a...
01:03:06.000 So far out there that the Americans wouldn't go.
01:03:09.000 And it was 80 million Americans that said no to this bullshit.
01:03:12.000 And if you just do the math, basically, at the height of the Revolutionary War, you had one-third of Americans, just one-third, were behind the Revolutionary War.
01:03:22.000 One-third were ambivalent, and one-third was still with the crown.
01:03:25.000 But that was enough.
01:03:27.000 The biggest, most powerful army in the world at that time, the British crown.
01:03:33.000 And we had roughly that during the pandemic.
01:03:37.000 And if you think about it, we don't need all of them because there's going to be still people wearing masks that are happening now, even though it's been proved that they mean nothing.
01:03:44.000 And the six feet of distance, all the stuff that was made up.
01:03:47.000 But we have enough people now.
01:03:49.000 And it's important that the people in cultural positions where you can't, like Bobby Kennedy, like yourself, like myself, that people can stand up.
01:04:01.000 For other people, even though it may cost you financially, it may cost you in our business, the fact that you can stand up and they can try to say whatever they want, that we're crazy or whatever, but it is a person standing up against authority.
01:04:18.000 And for somebody, for a person standing up against authority like Bobby Kennedy, it's now a person that is now in a position of authority.
01:04:27.000 That can actually do something.
01:04:28.000 And I had an interesting conversation with Bobby because I said, you know, you have a really good chance of getting in now.
01:04:35.000 This is going to be something.
01:04:37.000 And I reminded him like why my father loved his father, Bobby Kennedy.
01:04:42.000 And that's why I have such an affinity for him because my father loved his father.
01:04:47.000 Because Bobby Kennedy Sr. made a gigantic move towards being to humanity.
01:04:56.000 Because he was a guy who was the, you know, literally the hard-ass, you know, muscle, brain muscle behind Joe McCarthy during the communist, you know, blacklisting of the 1950s.
01:05:12.000 The Russia scare, the original Russia scare.
01:05:16.000 But then, by the time after his brother was assassinated...
01:05:20.000 Putting it and seeing what happened to Americans, the black Americans, and the abject poverty, and the cruelty, and the fact that the disparity in our society, in the freest country in the world, that moved him.
01:05:36.000 When he saw the poverty in Mississippi in 1968-67, he was moved by that and became this incredible...
01:05:48.000 I mean, it was really Robert Kennedy was the one that stopped the burning of the cities after Martin Luther King was assassinated.
01:05:55.000 He was the guy that the African Americans looked to and said, we still have Bobby.
01:06:00.000 And you have that with Robert Kennedy.
01:06:04.000 And for all, none of us are perfect.
01:06:07.000 And Robert certainly would admit that.
01:06:09.000 And certainly when you lose your father at 14 years old, you witness your own uncle getting...
01:06:16.000 Getting murdered.
01:06:17.000 And your father, it's going to, you know, the fact that he survived that from all, whether he did drugs to, you know, and who could deny him?
01:06:28.000 The fact that this man now has, with all flaws and whatever, his heart and through 19 years of prayer, let me do something.
01:06:37.000 The times that I've spent with him, it is how can we make this better?
01:06:42.000 How can we really improve the lives of the average American?
01:06:45.000 How can we help children who are now over 54% and it's truthfully, it's closer to 60% suffer from chronic illnesses to stuff that's unheard of.
01:06:55.000 The fact that even questioning this can get us Kicked out of...
01:06:59.000 Am I still with you?
01:07:02.000 Yeah.
01:07:04.000 The fact that even questioning it can get us kicked out of decent society tells us something that our decent society is no longer decent.
01:07:15.000 Oh, man.
01:07:17.000 Rob, the reason I was laughing is I was thinking, when I was younger, growing up, watching Juice Bigelow, male gigolo one and two I did not imagine This would be the conversation that we would one day have.
01:07:36.000 I let that film influence me too much, by the way.
01:07:39.000 That gigolo game has a high price tag on it, let me tell you.
01:07:43.000 Rob, thanks, man.
01:07:45.000 That's why I think you and I have a special position, whereas people should question our motives.
01:07:51.000 They should always.
01:07:52.000 They should question all of us.
01:07:53.000 But we're coming from such a place of inequity, such a place of just selfishness.
01:08:00.000 An elitist, you know, art form that I think to give that up says something about us, but also they should continue to question our motives always.
01:08:10.000 And I would just say to those people, it's like, you know, to just continue.
01:08:14.000 I wouldn't do as I do.
01:08:16.000 I would say, I'd say I am the worst example of stuff.
01:08:19.000 I am doing everything I can to...
01:08:22.000 You know, to try to be a light now, to reflect God's light.
01:08:27.000 And I think that that's something that I'm going to have to work to strive to for what, you know, the hedonistic life that I'd led.
01:08:36.000 But I think that, you know, there is something that we can offer.
01:08:42.000 And I would say for us to have turned our backs against it.
01:08:47.000 For all the wonderful things that Hollywood can provide in show business.
01:08:52.000 I mean, when they lift you up and all of a sudden, you know, you're at a restaurant getting a table before other people.
01:09:00.000 That's a nice thing.
01:09:02.000 You don't want to give that up, Russell.
01:09:03.000 You want to keep that, you know?
01:09:05.000 So there is a calling that I think has been, you know, I want to believe that.
01:09:14.000 That I have been called for some reason.
01:09:16.000 And I don't know what it is exactly, but I think that if there's anything that I could offer people, and I think it's simply to just question these things or to open your mind to people who are also questioning and who have the potential to really change and do something good in the world.
01:09:39.000 That is, you cannot...
01:09:43.000 You cannot undermine the potential for what it would mean to make people who are sick, to have them be well.
01:09:53.000 You know, there are people, there is unnecessary suffering that happens in this country.
01:09:59.000 And one of the things that, in every country, but in our culture.
01:10:03.000 And for, I met these parents who said their kids were absolutely fine.
01:10:10.000 And then they were giving these vaccines, and then all of a sudden, they had regressed, and they couldn't speak anymore.
01:10:17.000 And some of them had, in the 90s, when there was still a lot more mercury in these shots, they literally, some of them had to wear helmets, and they never recovered from it.
01:10:30.000 And these parents who met with me, I believe them, and I still believe them.
01:10:37.000 What is their motivation?
01:10:39.000 Their motivation is simply to prevent other suffering for other families to not have to deal with that.
01:10:45.000 And I was so moved by that.
01:10:48.000 And I said, well, I'll speak on your behalf because I had a bigger voice at that time.
01:10:54.000 And so I went to Sacramento and California and spoke before the...
01:11:04.000 The State Senate hearings.
01:11:06.000 And for that, I was attacked, you know, as this crazy anti-vaxxer.
01:11:12.000 And what I really am is a crazy person who believes parents and who wants the same thing.
01:11:23.000 I mean, because what those parents gave me was knowledge, and they didn't want that suffering.
01:11:28.000 So my kids are fine.
01:11:30.000 And I'm grateful to them because what they really did was, out of the love of their own hearts, to want to minimize the suffering of others, they minimized the potential sufferings for families like mine.
01:11:44.000 And it's like, once you, and then I sit with Bobby Kennedy with these people, these wonderful parents, you know, and it just...
01:11:56.000 There's nothing in my life that I could come close to anything that I could ever do to that beautiful grace that these people have and their children.
01:12:05.000 And I feel like, you know, whatever I do, whatever I could stand up and try to do in my own ignorant, uneducated way is just, you know, they say like the, you know, it's whatever good works is rags in the face of the Lord.
01:12:22.000 And it made me realize that like, How much more, if my good works are rags in the face of the Lord, how much more my pride, my ego, my vanity.
01:12:34.000 And so it became a real moving thing.
01:12:39.000 I realized that to lose everything is nothing because it was nothing.
01:12:43.000 And I needed to go through that.
01:12:44.000 I needed to have that removed from me so that I could, it's for my own humanity and for my own...
01:12:52.000 To kind of come to a place where a higher self.
01:12:57.000 And it is a beautiful thing for people who were looking to rebel and to be different and edgy, like some of the movies that you try to make and try to be as outrageous as you can.
01:13:10.000 I mean, these days, everyone is doing that.
01:13:12.000 It's as edgy, whatever.
01:13:14.000 If you really want to be a rebel now, come to Christ.
01:13:17.000 He's the original rebel.
01:13:20.000 I mean, that's how rebellious is that.
01:13:22.000 And how about the faith of those when he said, take this, this is my body, take this in memory of me.
01:13:31.000 I mean, how about the people, like some people, that was too much for them, and they couldn't take it, and they left.
01:13:39.000 And I'm sure that there was like, that was a lot for the apostles to go with.
01:13:43.000 And it's just a, so it comes back to that for me.
01:13:50.000 It's a humbling.
01:13:52.000 And when you realize what was given for us, anything that we could offer to give up is nothing compared to what Christ did.
01:14:04.000 Rob, thank you so much for sharing that with us.
01:14:08.000 I'm sorry we've not had more time to get into Christianity, the spirit of play.
01:14:12.000 I feel like next time we have a conversation, we'll have to do it live with an audience.
01:14:17.000 I'd love to organize that because I feel like we could really revel in some chaos together.
01:14:22.000 But thank you for our conversation today, Rob.
01:14:26.000 It's been an amazing, wild and unpredictable journey with you.
01:14:31.000 And I'm really grateful for your time today.
01:14:33.000 Thanks, Rob.
01:14:34.000 Thank you, Russell.
01:14:35.000 It's been a pleasure.
01:14:36.000 Let's do this again.
01:14:37.000 Thank you, Rob Schneider, for joining us for that fantastic conversation.
01:14:41.000 Let me know in the comments in chat if you'd like to see a live performance from Rob and I. I'm thinking about doing something in front of a small audience with him.
01:14:48.000 Wouldn't that be fun and crazy?
01:14:50.000 Thank you very much for joining us today.
01:14:52.000 We will see you on Monday.
01:14:55.000 Not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
01:14:59.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.
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