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00:00:30.000In this video, you're going to see how to make a black man's hat.
00:00:36.000In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:00:47.000Hello there you Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me with Gareth Roy for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:54.000First 15 minutes we're going to be on YouTube, but after that we're going to slink away into the shadowy world of free speech, truth, beauty, glory and revolution that we call our home.
00:01:06.000We're going to be talking about the cultural revolt.
00:01:09.000Are people just rejecting outright the pap being served up by a culture that doesn't like them, love them or want them to be free?
00:01:17.000Are we seeing increasing authoritarianism everywhere and new peripheral marginal movements, people thirsting after freedom?
00:01:25.000Here at Stay Free HQ, pilgrims arrive demanding to be part of our family, demanding that we give them the very manner that we have received, that you have given us, hope that the world can be changed.
00:01:58.000As hard as they work to centralise authority, can you feel new movements?
00:02:03.000Can you feel it rising up from the very soil as they try to bring down your leaders, as they try to fortify centralist authoritarian movements?
00:02:11.000Can you feel that the people are beginning to change, beginning to reject their stories?
00:02:23.000Is he the sound of freedom of the pop world with his new anti-establishment hit?
00:02:28.000We're going to be having a little look at We're gonna be talking about YouTube's policy changes and how they're reaching into every medical area, preventing us speaking about anything that the WHO don't sanction.
00:02:42.000And of course we're gonna be talking about the Maui wildfires.
00:02:46.000Is it a land grab and is there any truth in the conspiracy theories that surround it?
00:02:51.000And even if there isn't truth in the more let's call them outlandish theories for the sake of simplicity.
00:02:57.000For example some people are saying that like a intergalactic laser beam started the fires and that Bill Gates was sat up there like Darth Vader firing them down.
00:03:07.000Now that you know may yet prove to be utterly preposterous but even if that is the case On an emotional level, are we being exploited by elites?
00:03:15.000Does it feel like every time there's a crisis or disaster, it somehow benefits the powerful while punishing ordinary people?
00:03:22.000Let me know in the comments in the chat if you agree with that.
00:05:34.000He's talking about the rich inhabitants of Washington DC and how they call all the shots and leave the poor person, kind of, or the everyman behind.
00:05:42.000And you could argue he's pretty right about that.
00:05:44.000Woody Guthrie, who you might see as the kind of ground zero of this Yeah.
00:05:50.000of music. He was by his nature anti-establishment, singing about hobos,
00:05:55.000challenging the bankers, saying that sometimes criminals and gangsters were
00:05:59.000folkloric heroes because they were by their nature anti-establishment figures.
00:06:03.000He was a darling of the left, like a British folk singer like Billy Bragg would
00:06:07.000call him a darling. Bob Dylan, who's hardly right-wing, would cite him as a
00:06:11.000kind of mentor and as the sort of the impreture of that musical genre.
00:06:18.000But now, when someone sort of sings a bit like that, the assumption is that he's
00:06:21.000popped off his Ku Klux Klan hat and started singing straight away. Like
00:06:25.000Sound of Freedom, when you actually watch that film, it's not like it's sort of
00:06:29.000going, and by the way, we should all be white fellas. It's sort of just like a
00:06:33.000normal film, innit? It's odd how things are being repackaged as somehow
00:06:39.000verboten or forbidden, just simply by virtue of the fact they are outside of
00:06:44.000an economic model or outside of a sort of rather extraordinary, peculiar and
00:06:48.000groundless sort of cultish new cultural movement.
00:06:52.000I think he's described his politics as being like cento anyway I think he said neither left nor right and I think it's like it's been embraced by people saying people on the right but I think you could also just call them fans or people with certain musical tastes to kind of call it a viral right-wing anthem now when all he's doing is basically saying there's too much control for rich people in Washington feels like a step too far.
00:07:14.000The most left-wing message that there could be, or at least the most anti-authoritarian message, as we discussed with Glenn Greenwald recently, and you should watch his show on Rumble, he's absolutely fantastic, the terms left and right have become redundant.
00:07:28.000If a folk singer saying that you can't trust Washington DC fat cat politicians who are
00:07:34.000in bed with Wall Street and care more about corporate interests than they care about you
00:07:39.000and your family, if that's regarded as right wing now, then I would imagine that it means
00:07:45.000that all the metrics and criteria have shifted to a bewildering degree.
00:07:48.000I think this sense that there is no static set of criteria that we can rely on is part
00:07:55.000I also think we know from the news at the moment the situation with the $25 billion
00:08:01.000extra that's now been appropriated for Ukraine again, over $100 billion spent in terms of
00:08:08.000sending weapons to Ukraine, with the $12 billion that's been spent on the Hawaii situation.
00:08:14.000And you can kind of see a situation there whereby you could very easily argue that the priority is not going to American citizens.
00:08:23.000And so someone who's saying the fat cats in Washington are prioritizing people elsewhere or themselves over their own citizens, again it's kind of justified.
00:08:32.000If you're one of our Awakening Wonders over on YouTube, perhaps join us in the other place.
00:08:37.000Consider coming to the sweet home of freedom.
00:08:40.000If you're a taxpayer, how do you feel that you're coughing up $900 a year to support this ongoing and potentially unwinnable war between Ukraine and Russia, while a stipend of just, I said stipend, of just $700 Has been given to those who have been burned and ravaged in the wake of the Hawaiian fires that we'll be talking about in more detail later.
00:09:01.000$700 for US citizens, $900 sent abroad.
00:09:40.000Yeah, so this is a new Cabinet Office document, which sounds boring already, but this is in a so-called reasonable worst-case scenario, which seems like a mad justification for creating this document.
00:09:51.000It's a worst-case scenario, but I'm being perfectly reasonable.
00:09:54.000You know that fella downstairs you've come to love?
00:10:04.000You're sick all over it, you try to pick your own John Thomas up off the floor and reattach it using nothing more than earwax.
00:10:11.000That's a reasonable worst-case scenario.
00:10:14.000I saw Sam Harris, who's coming on the show in a couple of weeks actually, proselytising about a potential scenario.
00:10:19.000He goes, what if we had a pandemic where it killed 50% of people and the vaccine was proven to be effective and people still didn't take it?
00:11:04.000We're toasting, the gallery's toasting, even the little lad outside.
00:11:08.000There they are, see them toasting while they work.
00:11:10.000Even the lad outside who's turned up here seeking a message of hope, a message of hope that he will receive, because hope is what we're offering you.
00:11:17.000While you may see the signs of Armageddon all about you, while you may see the walls of dystopia being built even in your own communities, let us tell you that hope and freedom are just around the corner.
00:11:33.000Well, also to the businesses and governments for working in collaboration because apparently... Businesses and the government!
00:11:39.000The government is... The document is seen inside the cabinet office as hopefully being a wake-up call to businesses and organisations to build up mitigation measures to key risks.
00:11:50.000Government cannot tackle these challenges alone due to our increasingly complex and interconnected world.
00:11:55.000All of society needs to work together to strengthen our defences and build a more resilient nation.
00:12:00.000We've got to build a more resilient nation.
00:12:02.000Do you think what they mean by a more resilient nation?
00:12:04.000Let me know in the chat in the comments if you agree with what I'm about to say.
00:12:06.000Not yet, you don't know what it is yet or can you predict it?
00:12:08.000That by more resilient nation what they mean is give us the right to control, have more authority, let us set up 15-minute cities, let us set up CBDCs where we can control your currencies.
00:12:18.000You know they're already piloting that in Australia.
00:12:21.000We made an exquisite video about that earlier which is going to knock your socks off when you eventually see it.
00:12:27.000It stands mighty like a sasquatch, that video!
00:12:32.000It's going to be brilliant, it's going to change the world, I think.
00:12:34.000You're right, so when they talk about a fortified and stronger society, what they ultimately mean is they're going to take it more forward.
00:12:38.000Listen, we've got to come off YouTube.
00:12:40.000The WHO might think that these words of ours that we speak might be like wine unto thine ear.
00:12:46.000They might be a remedy down in your sweet belly.
00:12:49.000They might heal you of the idea that you're living in a dystopia.
00:12:53.000They might awaken you to the power that you possess, and therefore it might get banned by the WHO.
00:12:58.000Where's our funding from Billy Boy Gates and his space laser?
00:13:01.000Where is it? I've not seen penny one from that poindexter, from that nerd, from that little nerd sitting up learning
00:13:30.000Then once that's all done, how about a few quid for us here at the Stay Free Foundation that believe in awakening you, liberating you, empowering you to run your own life as a spiritual person and to run your own community as an awakened soul.
00:13:43.000Okay, we're going to leave you now on YouTube.
00:13:44.000I tell you why, because Because we are gonna be talking about a saucy little story.
00:13:48.000Are we gonna be talking about the Hawaiian land grab?
00:13:50.000Are we gonna be talking about the medical misinformation policy on YouTube?
00:17:18.000YouTube doesn't allow content that spreads medical misinformation that contradicts the World Health Organization, which is just a thing that's made up.
00:17:47.000Well, because they've recognised that people now can access media however they want, you beautiful souls, come unto us, you sweet-suffering sweethearts, thee.
00:17:55.000What they've tried to do is sort of stratify media.
00:17:58.000Like, this is proper New York Times stuff.
00:18:00.000As if the New York Times didn't agitate for and advocate for illegal wars based on spurious misinformation.
00:18:07.000As if the New York Times didn't support the measures taken during the pandemic that are proved to be erroneous.
00:18:12.000As if the New York Times won't allow reasonable debate about the ongoing conflict.
00:18:17.000You know, and I'd like to see the New York Times bare their chests and offer sweet sucker to Little Ed.
00:18:48.000What I'm saying is, if the WHO have a policy on that, that you're not allowed to say aspirin, for example, could be used for these things, then you will, you know, you'll either be removed or demonetized on YouTube.
00:19:01.000What is this march towards centralised, globalist authoritarianism?
00:19:06.000Like, when they were talking about this, they were saying, look, we just can't have people saying that these medicines or medical practices are not healthy or helpful.
00:19:16.000I mean, do you know what they should do?
00:19:17.000Is they should look at what would have happened to the pursuit of new and emergent science if these rules had been applied to intrepid scientific research decades and perhaps even up to centuries ago.
00:19:31.000That is exactly the point Mark Schellenberger made also.
00:19:45.000It couldn't be for my own vanity and ego, Gareth.
00:19:47.000It'd have to be... The people would simply have to demand it.
00:19:50.000If the people demand... If the pilgrims keep a-comin', if the people demand it, I will sacrifice myself unto them, if that's what's required.
00:19:57.000Not in a religious way, in a, you know, just devote-yourself-to-stuff way.
00:20:01.000I've got no... I've never been a grandiose man, have I?
00:20:04.000It's not something I've ever fallen into.
00:20:05.000That could never be labelled that easy.
00:20:06.000Listen, Gal, I've got to talk about these deadly wildfires in Hawaii.
00:20:09.000Some are saying that the conspiracy theories that surround them are disgusting.
00:20:13.000And I don't know, is it disgusting to ponder a conspiracy theory?
00:20:16.000Does that necessarily mean you don't revere and respect the dead?
00:20:19.000Is it not possible to simultaneously Respect and care for the lives lost and to acknowledge the depth and breadth of this obvious and evident tragedy and still ask questions about how it might benefit existing powerful interests?
00:20:32.000And even if a theory isn't true, should you be allowed to ask those questions?
00:20:35.000And who has the authority to stop you?
00:20:38.000Well, on YouTube it's the WHO if it's medical matters and elsewhere in the mainstream media it's seemingly an elite class of intellectuals that are able to determine which areas of ponderance and pontification ...are allowed, and which should be censored and fenced off.
00:20:54.000Is there any basis, though, we're asking you, and ourselves, which is weird, during this inquiry, and whether or not these conspiracy theories are true, is there definitely an elite land grab occurring, independently of this disaster?
00:21:19.000The tragic and deadly Hawaiian wildfires are claiming lives and fueling conspiracy theories around land grabs and even a Bill Gates laser starting it.
00:21:30.000But as with many conspiracy theories, is there some basis in truth or is it, as it is apparently seeming to be, already potentially Joe Biden's Katrina?
00:21:39.000A mishandled catastrophe where the government is shown to be out of touch with the people.
00:21:46.000We are in the midst of a great tragedy and whenever there are events of this nature it's prudent to acknowledge the suffering of those most immediately affected and wise to recognize that mainstream media and state interests continually use legitimate tragedies in an opportunistic way.
00:22:01.000Is there some way that we can benefit from these events?
00:22:04.000You don't need to go so far as to say hang on a minute was this deliberately caused?
00:22:08.000Although it There's always worth analysing and scrutinising all possibilities.
00:22:12.000One thing I've learned in the last few years is things that start off as wacky conspiracies often end up being conspiracy facts.
00:22:19.000But even in the event where there are rather more exaggerated conspiracies out there, you can often find when you look closely that there's a grain of truth in them, or even more than a grain, a kind of legitimate concern that powerful interests benefit from
00:23:18.000And also some identifiable images now that we're all becoming quite accustomed to.
00:23:23.000Apocalyptic images of burning forests and burning towns.
00:23:27.000We're interested in how the media report this and how the state exploits it and whether or not there's any truth in some of the more seemingly outlandish claims that there's a land grab at play and that this is somehow beneficial to elite interests and indeed could these fires have been deliberately caused.
00:23:45.000I find when investigating peripheral issues or peripheral ideas. It's very important to ensure
00:23:51.000you don't say anything that you can't demonstrate to be true. But you also don't neglect to point
00:23:56.000out that powerful interests are being served because that is so often the case. During the last
00:24:01.000three years when most people suffered enormously, some incredibly powerful interests benefited.
00:24:06.000Obviously and notably, big tech, big government, big pharma all benefited.
00:24:11.000So when it comes to a tragic, immediate, and awful event like this, which is plainly devastating, nasty, despicable, let's have a look at how the event could be exploited subsequently, as well as if there's anything unusual about its origin.
00:24:23.000More than 2,700 structures have been destroyed, most of them homes.
00:24:35.000The cause of the blaze is still under investigation.
00:24:39.000Videos shot from the water show both how bad the fire was but also how strong the wind was blowing.
00:24:45.000Obviously there are official investigations into the origins of this fire and as with any news event these days there are ideas, theories, notions and I think always speak to deep skepticism about mainstream narratives, deep cynicism about the relationship between those that govern and those of us that are governed.
00:25:04.000One thing for sure is that these disasters are often demonstrate how out of touch government are with the people that they govern.
00:25:11.000Whether it was the East Palestine rail disaster where the Biden administration who claimed to care a great deal about the environment responded badly or famously Hurricane Katrina where George W Bush messed up and it took Kanye West to point out that often people in power don't care about the interests of ordinary people or specifically in that case he said black people.
00:25:29.000George Bush doesn't care about black people.
00:25:32.000But we can equate that to those without power who are affected by the behavior of powerful institutions and interests.
00:25:38.000Does Joe Biden's dismissal or inability to immediately comment suggest a similar lack
00:25:43.000of compassion, empathy and understanding for those affected by this tragedy?
00:25:47.000Mr. President, any comments on your right to be democrat or Maori?
00:25:48.000Will you come talk about the Hawaii response, Mr. President?
00:25:48.000Any comments on your right to be democrat or Maori?
00:25:55.000Yeah, it's probably not best to sort of smile and say no comment.
00:25:59.000If your tenure as president has been dogged by claims of senility, ineptitude, corruption and being out of touch, probably best not to just grin and say no, no comment when confronted with a disaster of this magnitude.
00:26:15.000Claims about the deadly wildfires in Hawaii, including that shadowy forces orchestrated the disaster with a laser beam, have gained traction online.
00:26:23.000Now, some people will say, oh, that's dangerous misinformation.
00:26:32.000The posts come from a variety of sources and accounts, but generally imply that elites or government agencies deliberately started the fires.
00:26:39.000Videos and images claiming that wildfires were not a natural disaster and were instead caused by a directed energy weapon, a laser beam or explosion, have been viewed millions of times.
00:26:48.000But the video was originally a viral clip shared on TikTok in May, showing a transformer explosion in Chile.
00:26:54.000So that particular video was not legitimate or authentic, it says here.
00:26:57.000An image of a church on fire in Hawaii has been viewed 9 million times, with people claiming it shows a laser beam rising from the church into the sky.
00:27:04.000However, the image has been digitally altered.
00:27:07.000No laser beam or ray of light can be seen in the original Associated Press photo.
00:27:11.000So it seems that some investigations have been done that disprove these original claims.
00:27:15.000But why is there this sense of exploitation, total mistrust?
00:27:49.000One viral video includes claims by a podcaster that native landowners in Maui have refused to sell land to investment management companies and rich locals.
00:27:57.000Well, that would be pretty easy to prove, I guess.
00:27:59.000The cause or causes of the fires on Maui are still unknown, but no real evidence has emerged to suggest they were deliberately started as part of a land grab.
00:28:07.000So there's no evidence of those claims at the moment.
00:28:10.000Let me know in the comments where you stand on that.
00:28:12.000But let's not forget that even with a historic Conspiracy theory like the assassination of JFK.
00:28:17.000The information after all of these years is still heavily redacted and controlled.
00:28:21.000Let us remember that during the start of the pandemic assurances were offered to pharmaceutical companies that they would be immune from future prosecutions and some of that legislation already looks a little dubious doesn't it?
00:28:32.000And once more we're not allowed full access to the information.
00:28:34.000This lack of transparency leads to suspicion.
00:28:38.000As always I bet the mainstream media will say we have to do something about this misinformation and disinformation.
00:28:43.000These These conspiracy theories are hurtful to the real victims of this fire, but what they perhaps won't address is what the economic conditions in Hawaii are actually like and whether or not there is a degree of exploitation of the indigenous people.
00:28:56.000Let's just cast our minds back and work out why is Hawaii part of America.
00:29:00.000Give that a little bit of reflection and that might help you to see where we're going with this.
00:29:03.000So even outside of these fires, are there economic and land-related issues that are a little dodgy and dubious?
00:29:10.000Will any of these homes that are rebuilt be targeted at rich landowners?
00:29:14.000And what has the government support of this issue been like?
00:29:18.000Elizabeth Pickett, co-executive director of the non-profit Hawaii Wildfire Management Organization and co-author of Maui Wildfire Plan, developed in 2014, told the Wall Street Journal that measures like ramping up emergency response capacity have been stymied by a lack of funding, logistical hurdles in rugged terrain and competing priorities.
00:29:38.000A bit like East Palestine, when you investigate that disaster it seems that the opportunities to update The hardware were neglected.
00:29:49.000And then when the disaster happens, what's the response?
00:29:52.000It seems at odds as well with the concern and care that's expressed towards the environment, but usually in areas where it's possible to regulate and control the activities of ordinary people, rather than persecute, prosecute and control the actions of elite organizations and businesses.
00:30:07.000While the US government, backed by the corporate media, continuously claims there is no money to build infrastructure and take measures that prevent such disasters from happening in the first place, there's an endless supply of funds for war and financial bailouts of the banks and corporations.
00:30:20.000Again, it's a point that's been raised before.
00:30:22.000Where do you want your tax dollars going?
00:30:24.000To support the infrastructure of states that are within the American experiment, like Hawaii?
00:30:29.000Or do you want your money being sent to Ukraine to perpetuate war that doesn't seem to be going very well at all?
00:30:35.000The US government through both Democratic and Republican administrations over the past three decades has spent trillions of dollars on imperialist wars that have killed and displaced millions of people, and at the same time funneled similar amounts into the financial system to ensure that money-making for billionaires on Wall Street continued without disruption.
00:30:50.000Oh, I wonder why there's so much mistrust, so much room for conspiracy, pontification on the actions of these elites, when this kind of policy is ordinary, accepted to us.
00:30:58.000When so much of what ought be crime and corruption remains legal because of the way these systems are organized, there's no wonder that people entertain outlandish conspiracy theories.
00:31:07.000And yet the response of the political establishment has been an astounding degree of disinterest and the shirking of any responsibility for the disaster.
00:31:14.000Aside from a three paragraph White House statement on Thursday, President Biden has said nothing about the staggering loss of life in Hawaii.
00:31:21.000We had a similar disaster in our country, the UK, when the Grenfell Tower burned down and many lives were lost.
00:31:27.000It's been a bureaucratic disaster and nightmare trying to investigate the causes of that fire.
00:31:32.000It seems that there's some culpability in the safety regulation, but no one's going to get convinced.
00:31:36.000No one's going to get charged and no one's going to get compensated for the loss of life.
00:31:40.000One might think that if you have big, well-funded governments, these are the kind of disasters they should be dealing with, protecting their own populations.
00:31:47.000Ideally, ensuring that disasters of this nature don't take place at all, but when they do take place, that people are taken care of, rather than curiously having this inordinate amount of care for people over there in Ukraine.
00:31:58.000Odd that their care gets to be brokered by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, and this kind of care doesn't seem to have the opportunity to skim profit off the top.
00:32:06.000The people of Maui are shocked and outraged that there were no warnings to residents as the wind-whipped flames were approaching and then engulfing Lahaina.
00:32:13.000Multiple survivors have told television reporters that there were no officials on the scene to help people escape the flames, no means of communicating with missing loved ones or contacting hospitals or emergency agencies.
00:32:23.000Even days after the worst of the fires had ended, thousands of people left homeless without food were left to fend for themselves.
00:32:29.000Reports have come in that the provision of urgently needed food and money for working class residents is being organised and run entirely at the community level by volunteers.
00:32:40.000I hope that the government will be similarly supportive of this disaster as they have been with disasters overseas.
00:32:47.000Otherwise people might conclude that their only interest is in profitable disasters that afford opportunity to their elite backers and funders.
00:32:56.000The level of dismay, anger and distrust of the government is palpable within the population.
00:33:01.000The island of Maui is a microcosm of the social inequality that exists across America.
00:33:05.000In recent decades, income disparity in Hawaii has accelerated.
00:33:09.000Maui is also the location of Properties and residences owned by some of the world's wealthiest individuals.
00:33:15.000Former CEO and founder of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, owns a $78 million, 14-acre estate surrounded by thousands of acres of dormant lava fields on La Perouse Bay on Valley Isle in Maui.
00:33:25.000Oprah Winfrey, with a personal wealth of $2.5 billion, owns 2,000 acres on the island.
00:33:30.000These billionaires and others have been buying up land and homes in Hawaii for decades, typically as vacation spots, but also as a place to park their assets.
00:33:38.000When there are non-domicile tax evading techniques deployed, when there is demonstrable opportunity for rich individuals, even if they're rich individuals that have made their money legitimately, like Oprah Winfrey, It creates a sense of disparity and tension.
00:33:55.000And that sense of disparity and tension, I think, facilitates, expedites, inflates contemplation of ideas like, it's very convenient that these fires have happened.
00:34:05.000One of the things that I would ask you to track over time is, in two years, when we've all forgotten about this disaster, when we're 10 disasters into the future, 30 current things along the cycle, I wonder who benefited most from the fires in Maui.
00:34:19.000Put to one side any conspiracy theories you might be entertaining at the moment.
00:34:22.000What we can say is this is a very familiar story.
00:34:25.000A lack of infrastructure and support for ordinary working Americans has led to a disaster that it seems, may down the line, benefit rich elites.
00:34:35.000A chronic housing shortage and an influx of second home buyers and wealthy transplants have been displacing residents and the wildfire has multiplied concerns that any homes rebuilt there will be targeted at affluent outsiders seeking a tropical haven.
00:34:57.000Oh, that would turbocharge what is already one of Hawaii's gravest and biggest challenges.
00:35:02.000The exodus and displacement of native Hawaiian and local born residents who can no longer afford to live in their homeland.
00:35:08.000Gentrification at an almost national scale.
00:35:11.000In a way the laser beam becomes irrelevant.
00:35:14.000That's simply the literal ignition of the event.
00:35:17.000All of the concerns that wrap around the conspiracy theory are true.
00:35:22.000Oh no, are elites exploiting this situation?
00:35:24.000Are we going to be further impecuniated?
00:35:26.000Will the richest people in the world benefit from this situation?
00:35:29.000The focus, I sometimes think, is deliberately put onto the conspiracy theory to discredit the demonstrable reality that ordinary people are getting screwed over and rich elites are benefiting.
00:35:44.000Residents with insurance or government aid may get funds to rebuild, but those payouts could take years and recipients may find it won't be enough to pay rent or buy an alternate property in the interim.
00:36:03.000Meanwhile, Mark Zuckerberg doesn't work the land on his Hawaii ranch, but he and other wealthy landowners still benefit from huge agricultural tax breaks.
00:36:11.000The scheme allows the super-rich to hoard wealth at the expense of the general public.
00:36:14.000If you don't pay tax, it's a big problem.
00:36:16.000Do you want to fund all these wars that you're paying for?
00:36:19.000$900 each you're paying for the Ukraine war over there, per annum.
00:36:38.000Thousands of acres of farms and pastures once held by scions of plantation era aristocracy are being gobbled up by new money billionaires and global investment firms.
00:36:47.000These lands make for appealing additions to an investment portfolio not only for their prime location and skyrocketing value, but because they are eligible for huge agricultural tax break programs that save landowners millions on their property tax bills.
00:37:23.000One thing that's demonstrably true is these disasters appear to advantage the already advantaged elites that benefit from these systems being set up in the way that they already are.
00:37:33.000And of course, that's the point of these systems, to ensure that power structures are maintained, that they can't be broken down, that people don't have a voice, that they're not able to discuss alternative views, or propagate alternative opinions, or organize political parties to oppose the existing structures.
00:37:48.000Recipients of these breaks include meta-billionaire and world's 13th or so richest man, Mark Zuckerberg and his wife, Priscilla Chan, who save upwards of $300,000 in property taxes each year on their 1,400-acre North Shore ranch.
00:38:01.000ProPublica's 2021 reporting laid out how through an array of borrowing schemes, deductions, and write-offs, the uber-wealthy managed to pay unconscionably low income tax rates, with the 25 richest Americans paying a true tax rate of only 3.4%.
00:38:15.000But reporting on state and local property tax breaks and agricultural tax breaks specifically remains limited.
00:38:20.000These huge discounts for agricultural land are yet another piece of tax policy that allows the super-rich to hoard more and more wealth at the public's expense.
00:38:29.000Those lost revenues must be replaced by higher taxes on other, usually poorer people, or cuts to social services.
00:38:35.000On an island facing a massive housing crisis, the median home price often tops a million dollars.
00:38:40.000Affordable housing projects often find themselves wanting for that missing funding.
00:38:45.000So those savings that are made by rich elites have to come from somewhere and how many affordable houses will be built after this disaster?
00:38:51.000Bill Gates began buying up tracts of land in 2013 and is now the largest owner of farmland in the country with 270,000 acres.
00:39:00.000Other billionaires like Bezos, Buffett and Ted Turner are in on the game as well, each controlling thousands of acres to the extent that young farmers looking to buy land are being priced out of the market.
00:39:09.000Part of the rationale for preferential tax treatment of agricultural land is the hope that tax savings will trickle down to leasehold farmers in the form of lower rents.
00:39:22.000It's like the way that often government by science is government by favour and government by buddy accords.
00:39:28.000Just agreements between political allies.
00:39:31.000What's been described there is like a modern-day equivalent of the feudal system.
00:39:34.000The baron owns the land, the serfs till the lands, they'll get some benefits, or at least an occasional turnip.
00:39:39.000One of the conspiracy theories is of course that these fires were started deliberately to benefit rich elite, like black BlackRock. Now look at the Ukraine war. Ukraine have
00:39:48.000already done a deal with BlackRock to rebuild their nation using BlackRock investment. If you
00:39:54.000apply that mentality to this situation, if BlackRock end up benefiting from the fires in Hawaii,
00:40:00.000then the conspiracy theory is almost a redundant detail.
00:40:06.000Is it inevitable that the suffering of ordinary people leads to the benefit of rich elites and massive organisations like BlackRock and billionaires across the globe?
00:40:14.000And why is Bill Gates buying all this agricultural land when he's not a farmer and he's not using it in the way that these breaks were set up to be used?
00:40:22.000Doesn't it all feel like a kind of macro-conspiracy that's so diffuse, institutional, It's so oddly abstracted and bureaucratically opaque that sometimes you just want to simplify it into, they started this fire, they started it with a laser from space.
00:40:37.000And whether it's true or not, it not only feels true in terms of its results, it is kind of true.
00:40:44.000There is a conspiracy to keep you poor and to benefit rich elites.
00:40:57.000Every time there's a disaster or fire, you bet it's going to benefit elites.
00:41:01.000You bet the poorest people are going to suffer more.
00:41:04.000Every time there's a pandemic, you bet they're going to control you more and rich interests are going to benefit from it.
00:41:10.000We might not find a smoking gun or a beaming laser, but you can be sure that Black Rock and the world's most powerful individuals will benefit down the line from this disaster.
00:41:20.000The trouble is, by then, me and you, unless we're very, very careful, will be focusing on the conspiracy theory or the tragedy of 2024 or 2025.
00:41:29.000So for now, let's focus on those that are truly suffering.
00:41:32.000The people of Hawaii who have lost their lives and who have lost their homes.
00:41:35.000But let's not get so caught up in grief that we forget how these disasters are exploited by the powerful that benefit from a system that seems to be advantaged every time there's a disaster.
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00:43:21.000innocent people and possibly grants opportunity for profit to already
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00:46:17.000Like, what it is is, I think Bayern Munich, in spite of their obvious success, you see the five stars above their badge representing five victories.
00:49:09.000They're doing that as their wedding song, and while they were sort of showing all of their various friends singing bits from Stroke the Furry Wall, a vision befell me, and it was a powerful one.
00:49:18.000It was me as a Hasselhoff-style star in Germany, because Hasselhoff... I see.
00:49:23.000Hasselhoff, uniquely in Germany, was like, is there Elvis?
00:49:27.000Like, if you ask a German who's the king of rock and roll, they'll tell you, Hasselhoff.
00:49:33.000Wait, wasn't that to do with the Berlin Wall?
00:49:35.000Wasn't it something to do with the Berlin Wall?
00:50:21.000You know I made Chewbacca into Teen Wolf.
00:50:22.000What I've done with that black Trans Am is I put like, you know like cassette tapes, they had stickers on them so you could write what the name was?
00:50:29.000Well BASF cassettes, they had a red sticker, so I simply fashioned that into the red bit at the front of Knight Rider.
00:50:35.000This is why you're like you are, because of those moments as a child.
00:50:38.000You think that's who I still am deep down?
00:50:40.000With all of the grandiosity and all the declarations of revolution, just a little boy playing Knight Rider alone.
00:50:46.000When you'd done that, did you think to yourself, and there it is, actual Knight Rider, or did you just think to yourself, that's not good enough?
00:51:07.000And is Harry Kane's... Does he, in his heart... I reckon Harry Kane feels exactly how I felt when I put that cassette sticker on the front of an off-branch Trans Am.
00:51:20.000I had to do this because I wasn't allowed to go to either Man U, Man City or Real Madrid because of bloody Daniel Levy.
00:51:27.000And I'll tell you the thing, like you know how we all know Daniel Levy's a good negotiator because of the world tells us that.
00:51:33.000I'll tell you another thing I know that's a bit like that.
00:51:35.000Jordan Henderson is really good at the bleep test.
00:51:38.000You know the bleep test where they have to run backwards and forwards?
00:51:41.000Oh, Jordan Henderson, he's the best at that.
00:51:44.000Him and James Milner, they're always ahead of the others.
00:51:47.000Like, what do I know about the bleep test for?
00:51:49.000I don't want to know about the intricacies of training and their private stuff that they do.
00:51:53.000Because now football clubs release stuff for social media, don't they?
00:51:57.000So you're always seeing behind the scenes and the hilarity that goes on with Imagine if that was going on in the days of like footballers like Paul Gascoigne and the teams of the 80s because what they'd have found out is that they were like tossing themselves off in the dressing room and making people eat biscuits loaded up with man effluvia.
00:52:15.000I mean it's like it was a very very different sort of more jocular you might say and certainly less reconstructed time.
00:52:22.000Okay so Harry Kane, deep down is he disappointed?
00:52:56.000Yeah, Liverpool bid at one point ÂŁ110 or ÂŁ11 million, which is unbelievable because I think Klopp said earlier in the season that ÂŁ100 million for a player when they were... They should have got Declan!
00:53:05.000Right, but anyway, Chelsea have got him for ÂŁ115,000.
00:53:18.000Like, if they take Paqueta, because Kevin De Bruyne got that bloody injury that's taken him out for the season, so they just go and take Paqueta.
00:53:24.000He's out for four months, I think, De Bruyne, yeah.
00:53:27.000Didn't use one of your other brilliant players.
00:53:53.000I mean, obviously, as a Hull City fan, I know what happens here, but I guess Hull always exists kind of in that realm of having to... You just know as soon as Jared Bowen plays well, you know he's going.
00:54:02.000West Ham, you feel, especially winning a European trophy, you'd have a few seasons with your best players, but it just seems like now the money that is at stake here, the money that Chelsea can spend and therefore the way in which it hikes up what Man City are going to spend or, you know, these clubs with massive finances, It's just impossible to turn that money down.
00:54:21.000West Ham just can't turn 80, 90 million pounds down.
00:54:25.000When I was thinking, when I was feeling this sort of sadness and sorrow of Paquetta's probable departure, and actual anger, I felt anger, and I thought, you're just the same but on another level.
00:54:37.000You are taking players from Hull or Reading or whatever, Southampton in this instance, so it's not I know you mean but I think there's you know when Bowen went to West Ham I was like pleased for him as in we weren't going up it was going to be a long time before we were and you can't deny someone who had such he was I mean he was astounding at Hull for a couple of seasons
00:55:01.000And I think someone with that much talent should be playing in the Premier League.
00:55:04.000And so when he went to West Ham, you know, you paid a decent fee for him.
00:55:07.000I thought that's the natural next step.
00:55:10.000I think when you're in a situation now where you've got teams like West Ham winning European trophies and still their best players can be poached.
00:55:16.000You don't mind losing a lover if you get a better lover after.
00:55:21.000Like, say if you get chucked, isn't it good to think that your next sexual partner is like a real upgrade?
00:55:28.000You think, well that's okay, I've had the bruising of a chucking.
00:55:31.000But if after that you're forever in relationships that don't seem quite as good, That's no good because what I feel like is like we've lost Declan Rice and what we're being offered in return like the transfer policy has been doubtlessly stymied by Moyse's inability to form a good complicity with this technical director he evidently don't get on with and it slowed everything down.
00:55:53.000And I think the underlying sentiment of this podcast is, at what point, we've discussed it so much, does the evident financial momentum of this game capsize the romance and the sentiment?
00:56:08.000And then you have to investigate what your feelings are, because Neymar going to Saudi Arabia seems mental.
00:56:14.000And I was reading Steven Gerrard doing a report on how it's like they're not ready for the humidity, these lads and stuff, but they're playing football in bloody Saudi Arabia.
00:56:23.000And now like Manet's gone out there and Neymar's gone there and like you can easily make the arguments that were made during the Qatar World Cup of like, well, why is that country not allowed to have its own thing go down?
00:56:36.000You know, why are they not allowed their moment?
00:56:39.000And I think there are all sorts of arguments with the situation in Saudi Arabia as to, you know, as we've said before, what's so different from when the Premier League was being founded in this country?
00:56:48.000It just does seem... I'm concerned about what's going on with the fees that are going on in this country at the moment.
00:56:55.000The Chelsea model is becoming ridiculous.
00:56:59.000And what it's doing to push up the value of players and therefore make it inevitable that those players leave clubs like West Ham, I think it's dangerous.
00:57:52.000Have a look at like Neymar's Deal Gal.
00:57:54.000He could potentially break Saudi Arabia because he's going to get half a million euros for every social media post he makes saying Saudi Arabia is good.
00:58:03.000He could... I hope they've put a cap on that because otherwise he could just go, ain't Saudi Arabia nice?
00:58:08.000I'll tell you what I like, Saudi Arabia.
00:58:10.000Come to Saudi Arabia And you could, until the end, they can't pump enough out the ground to keep Neymar going.
00:58:27.000In a matter of days, ruined by Neymar.
00:58:30.000Is Neymar the epitome of the modern day footballer as mercenary?
00:58:35.000A man who has to some degree somehow squandered his talent through commerce in the same way that it could be said that former incarnations of great players squandered their talent through alcoholism in the case of George Best or through sort of mental health challenges like Gaza.
00:58:54.000It's a difficult one with Neymar, isn't it?
00:58:56.000Because I think there is... I think you're right.
01:00:22.000You don't even know that was your birthday.
01:00:23.000You've only got Mum and Dad's word for it.
01:00:25.000And let's face it, Mum and Dad even strapped me up with Junior, so as I can't forget Dad for a single second a day, who's also my agent, probably, is he?
01:01:07.000It's interesting that like, you know, there was a time where Neymar was that massive move from Barcelona to PSG and it was all, there were like a couple of players in the world who were valued at that kind of level and Bape in that.
01:01:20.000And now it feels like there are hundreds of players that have the same kind of value.
01:01:25.000I think Neymar went for 77... I know he's 31, but he went for 77 million.
01:02:09.000Roy Hodgson, friend of the show, former England manager, and presumed man-nan, is actually once again proving himself to be a brick-top Tony-style gangster.
01:03:51.000He don't go backwards, he go forwards.
01:03:53.000Do you think that there's, I don't know, subconsciously somewhere in Roy Hodgson's mind it's like the people maybe are making fun of his age and so he's always kind of ready to like prove that he's still got it at the age of 70 odd?
01:04:22.000I reckon it's no longer a singular entity, Joe Biden's penis.
01:04:33.000I reckon it's sort of like a, you know, sort of underneath the door, a draft, like not a draft excluder, like that, like a brush, like a, like it's like a doormat.
01:05:21.000Make Roy Hodgson President of the United States of America, even though he's shown no sign of wanting it, and be embarrassed by the idea, we're almost certain of that fact.
01:05:31.000Also, on-screen aggression took place between Pep Guardiola, that gorgeous beige tic-tac of testosterone and charisma, standing next side that great purloin, that 30 great sexy sirloin steak of Viking sex energy that is Harland.
01:05:50.000Now, as you know, I'm avowedly, and at least publicly, not a homosexual.
01:05:55.000Yeah, with Erling Harland, everything about him, all of the odd aspects of him,
01:05:58.000like the shaved up sides of his head, the long sort of, the blonde hair is particularly erotic.
01:06:04.000There's not often, like, would you like to crunch down on that?
01:06:07.000Like get one, get him into a ponytail, but you're using your own hand as the ponytail maker.
01:06:12.000Get the upper end of it and then crunch down and feel what it feels like to crunch down.
01:06:31.000I actually don't like... I always, as a younger man, backed myself in the sweet world of erotica, but I think with Erlin Harland, I think I might come out of that encounter feeling so diminished.
01:06:46.000And I feel like that after being with Erlin, unless he's like extraordinarily tender, I think you might come out of that feeling like a sort of a baby bird who's fallen down an escalator.
01:06:57.000I also think the language would be, you know, it wouldn't be as floral as yours.
01:07:42.000Really, I'll go see Mamma Mia, I'll watch the film Mamma Mia, I'll go and see an ABBA tribute band, ABBA Revival, when I saw them the other day.
01:07:48.000I think this is all inspired by your infatuation with Haarlem at the moment.
01:07:52.000Those northern European people, those people where it's perpetual night yet perpetual day.
01:08:30.000Your neck muscles would bulge as you tried to lift early.
01:08:34.000And that's why I'm so surprised that Pep Guardiola was so confrontational and couldn't wait to get to the dressing room before admonishing Erling Haaland.
01:08:55.000I mean, look at the amount... If footballers are going to be as powerful as a country now, because of, you know, what they earn, and you know that I don't... I think that the regulation should come around ownership models.
01:09:04.000I think they should be re-nationalized and distributed among the community.
01:09:07.000And I think we're at that kind of tipping point, where something as extraordinary as that, with all of its ramifications, with all of its indications for global finance, is exactly the sort of radical idea we need to be considering.
01:09:16.000To galvanise communities, to recognise that communities should own their assets, that if you have something naturally totemic, like a football club that can bring people together, that can provide a focal point for a community, you have to make radical moves.
01:09:27.000And all of the problems you would discover when you said, we are taking back this football club, we're like, hold on a minute, but FSG own it, or bloody Saudi Arabia own it or whatever.
01:09:36.000All of the problems you'd encounter would be so revealing about our economic and social models and how private interests have usurped public good to such a degree that we can't even do anything we want to do anymore.
01:09:46.000And isn't it the point of politics to present people with alternatives and ideas that are radical and mean something and bring people together and make life fun and make life worth living?
01:10:17.000TNT, Ria Ferdinand was on there talking about the, and he was asked about the Saudi stuff and obviously they, I think they, the host kind of wanted to go, yeah, you know, it's not great that everyone's moving to Saudi Arabia.
01:10:28.000But actually what he said was, I would have done the same thing towards the end of my career.
01:10:32.000And then what he said was, which I thought was an interesting take, he said, no one says anything about America whatsoever.
01:10:38.000He goes, when Messi goes over to America, the kind of deal that Messi's had done, no one says a thing.
01:10:44.000Isn't this an amazing thing that's happening?
01:10:47.000And he says, but, and look what's happening in Saudi Arabia.
01:10:49.000He said, it's so different, the response.
01:10:51.000And I was like, yeah, I think that's a fair point.
01:10:52.000If what you're saying is, it's about the politics, You know, that's the reason why we're coming down hard on the Saudi Arabia stuff.
01:10:58.000It's like, well, hang on, where's our analysis of American policy, you know?
01:11:02.000You can't send your footballers off to a warmongering nation that requires a constant warfare in order to prop up its model that charges its citizenry free taxation without proper or due consent.
01:12:21.000It's like the spirit of that land has come in a human form and is demonstrating the power and love of the community.
01:12:29.000And that idea, it's you that said it, is so powerful that it can sustain Layer after layer of commerce and commodification and abuse like some sort of holy whore that can maintain her virginal quality in spite of all of the prostitution.
01:12:52.000But like, what I feel like is that I have to acknowledge that my feeling that they can just take Paqueta to City is fundamentally no different than taking Boeing from Hull or whoever we're gonna scoop up with our whatever additional revenue we have for our sort of our minor, let's face it, European tribe.
01:13:09.000Did you see, can we have a look at the Hopometer?
01:13:11.000Cause I felt that pessimism in my own analysis there.
01:13:14.000Like they did this thing where they, the Athletic, which is a great sports publication,
01:13:18.000you have to say, where they asked each Premier League club how optimistic they felt about the forthcoming season.
01:13:37.000Then Bournemouth and Arsenal should be obviously more optimistic.
01:13:40.000Villa, Bournemouth and Brighton, they're the most optimistic.
01:13:43.000I suppose what that shows you, and the point we're going to make is that West Ham are the least optimistic.
01:13:50.000West Ham fans feel totally negative about the forthcoming season, along with Sheffield United, who probably presume they're going down, along with Everton, who are probably still concerned that they've not addressed the problems of last year.
01:13:59.000I'm surprised that Well, Palace actually is considerably higher.
01:14:09.000But it shows you what I thought was interesting about this is that hope is relative.
01:14:14.000And what I think it is, is West Ham ended the season on that triumph in Europe, then sold Declan Rice, then did not buy, not perceived to have bought well Or quickly enough.
01:14:41.000I mean, they've spent a lot of money on new players.
01:14:45.000Paul Torres and then the Diaby who I think scored the solitary goal the other day but yeah he's very highly rated but yeah I think they're you know and obviously they've got a great manager you know he came in and did a fantastic job It's weird when that happens because Emery at Sevilla, it was such a sort of a continual conduit of success.
01:15:04.000Did he go to Arsenal at the wrong time then?
01:15:30.000It's almost like the la... People are primed, we are primed, for either disappointment or the relief from disappointment, it almost seems like.
01:15:41.000You know, I think in a certain way... I don't know.
01:15:44.000I know, obviously, the fans don't win... didn't win that European trophy, but it's...
01:15:51.000I think when you, you do put a lot of, I mean, even when we watched it, you know, all together in the barn, you like put so much of yourself and so much energy into it and so much backing for your club and so much backing of your players.
01:16:02.000But then when they achieve what they achieved, and then it feels like the heart of the club has kind of been ripped out of it and not sufficiently replaced.
01:16:11.000I can see why the fans are affected by that, you know?
01:16:14.000Yeah that's right something symbolic has been sacrificed and it seems like a terminus but it also I think it's quite rational in some regards because it was been decline since the season prior to last and now it feels like that the anomaly is the the victory in Europe and decline is the trend.
01:16:35.000I'm very excited about this because Tottenham Hotspur have appointed in Ange Postacoglu an Australian.
01:16:42.000There's no other way of describing it.
01:16:44.000And we've not had, have we had Australian managers before?
01:16:47.000Cariels, have they ever been head coaches or anything?
01:16:51.000Like we've certainly not had anyone this Australian.
01:16:54.000Like, what I like about Australian people, generally, is their sort of informality and ease.
01:17:02.000Ease, like, seems to exemplify the things that I like about Australia.
01:17:06.000Our friend David Squires, who's the cartoonist at The Guardian, who does a brilliant cartoon, says that Postacoglu coming to prominence in this way seems like there's like a band you've been following for ages and never thought would make it, and suddenly everyone's talking about him and just says it seems so weird, because this is a guy that he's seen following, like, local teams in, like, across Australia.
01:17:24.000Let's have a look at him overusing the word mate in a way that is really heartening and what you want from an Australian.
01:17:32.000Would you be looking for a like-for-like replacement for Harry?
01:17:36.000I don't think there's a like-for-like replacement for Harry, mate.
01:17:40.000We've been planning for this for a while.
01:18:04.000But also like that's sort of, when I think about it, part of what I think we talk about a lot is you want in public life and maybe even particularly in political life that kind of discourse.
01:18:14.000Someone that talks like, look mate it don't really work like that.
01:18:17.000There's no sort of, like that is the opposite of Clinton Blair style slick fanfare.
01:18:23.000It's the emergence of a kind of colloquial vernacular that's immediately recognizable.
01:18:30.000I don't like Tottenham but I actually hope he does well.
01:18:37.000Well, I mean, you know, Spurs were already in a very... in dire straits.
01:18:41.000They not bought no-one good, didn't they?
01:18:43.000And that midfielder, that attacking midfielder, didn't he do well the other night against Brentford?
01:18:47.000I think they have bought a few, but, I mean, Richarlison's up there on his own with Son now, and they did not perform well last season, and it feels like now Kane's gone.
01:19:31.000I wonder what it is, because you've got to be able to do what Guardiola did, like a sexy little beige tic-tac, and like, go up to Harland, and sort of, like, who the fuck?
01:19:42.000He's got the minerals to go and have a go at him after he's scored a couple of goals.
01:19:46.000He's like, that guy can do what he wants.
01:19:49.000Harland is so good, I think, that you, like, as superior as City are, he could, if you put him in Man United, you think, well, Man United might win the league now.
01:20:07.000Sort of astonishing and unique when it appears that the tide of inflation is rising to make what would once have been regarded, because it was before, like you said, them 100 million players, it's like, oh, you're the equivalent of Trevor Francis or Ruud Gullit or whoever the most expensive player in the world is.
01:20:24.000Now it's just like, they're the equivalent of people I don't remember from the 70s, 80s and 90s, aren't they?
01:22:37.000Will you lot remember it so I don't have to write it down like a little nerf?
01:22:40.000All right, Spurs v Man U. We're only going to do five predictions this week and we're including holes to make it more interesting for Gareth.