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00:01:22.000He wants nothing more than to spread vile hate speech.
00:01:27.000That Dr. John Campbell, a dedicated medical professional.
00:01:31.000When we get over to being exclusively on Rumble, we're going to reveal to you that shielding didn't even work.
00:01:36.000But before we get into today's array of glorious content, would you like to see the leader of South Korea singing Bye Bye Miss American Pie by Don Vincent to Joe Biden, and then would you like to see why he's doing that?
00:01:51.000In your mind, while you're watching this spectacle, there seems like something that's tumbled from the mad mind of Terry Gilliam or I don't know.
00:01:59.000Who's the Australian one that I think of?
00:02:41.000So I think every time I'm depressed, I'm probably Van Gogh.
00:02:46.000And if only Don McLean were here to chronicle that similarity.
00:02:50.000But there you go, he's not done it so far.
00:02:52.000All right, let's have a look at this weird thing on this weird planet that we're living on and we've got some other interesting weird stuff to tell you.
00:03:05.000A long, long time ago I can still remember how that music used to make me smile The idea, I suppose, is that everything's sort of fun, and everything's alright, but everything's not alright.
00:03:21.000Yeah, we're all pals, we're allies, we're mates, and this is what we do.
00:03:27.000Yeah, and they are sort of humans, I'm not saying they're not humans, I've not gone that far, but I am saying that is, like, this is not what we need to be focusing on right now, with escalating tensions all over the globe, and American ...institutional system that means that the military-industrial complex can bypass democracy and is continually doing so.
00:04:32.000Joe Biden pumping the same fist that he uses to declare that he beat Big Pharma this year when the price caps introduced won't meaningfully impact the profits of the same pharmaceutical companies that are granted indemnity that settle out of court for figures that dwarf Foxy's payment, and were you aware how much Facebook have just paid for an out-of-court settlement?
00:04:54.000We've got so much to tell you, but more important than that is the king of South Korea singing a record by Don McLean.
00:05:03.000Maybe they'll be happy for a while February made me shiver With the paper I deliver Bad news on the doorstep I couldn't take one more step Never liked that rhyme.
00:05:38.000And in a minute we're going to be talking about the escalation of tensions between China and the United States.
00:05:44.000We're going to be talking about sort of spy planes and all sorts of stuff.
00:05:48.000But now I want to make the point that I feel like this song was about Elvis Presley's emulation of Buddy, Holly, and stealing the image of James Dean, that's literally in the lyrics.
00:05:58.000So I suppose in a sense it's about how commodity overwhelms authenticity.
00:06:41.000Oh, what it is, is we're sending nuclear weapons to another country that has escalating tensions with a nearby nation that similarly have nuclear weapons.
00:07:50.000I remember when I was a kid, Cold War, we were happy to put it behind us.
00:07:53.000Do you think if you were Finland and when you were invited to join NATO, you just thought, oh great, we're part of the gang, it's because they like us, they all like us, we're great, good for the Finnish!
00:08:02.000And then they go, right, we're now going to have to build bases on the border of Russia.
00:08:06.000When I was 16, I moved into a flat, uh, apartment with some older lads, and I thought, finally, Russell, you're hanging with the popular kids.
00:08:56.000So, like, one thing you don't want to discover while on hallucinogens, a couple of hours into it, Drugs Are Bad, Don't Do Drugs, is, uh... Your friends are traitors?
00:09:21.000I tell you what, on the theme of traitors, the amazing thing about that South Korea thing, and obviously, sing an American pie, then we'll give you nukes, is that the US, through those Pentagon leaks, the US has been spying on South Korea.
00:09:54.000We watched him practicing in his pants with a drone, and it was embarrassing.
00:10:00.000Hey listen, if you're watching us on YouTube or if you're watching us on Twitter, we're going to disappear right now, not in a Dr. John Campbell way, in a kind of, like, we're just not going to be on this anymore because we've got to tell you this story.
00:10:18.000We're not gonna tell you about it yet, we're gonna tell you about it in a second.
00:10:21.000Plus, you're gonna wanna see how many days per year do you think, let me know in the chat, how many days a year do you think you work for the Military Industrial Complex?
00:11:30.000So as the days pass and as we sort of gradually forget the horrors of the last couple of years, the wealth transfer, the small businesses that were crushed, the lives that were lost, the medications that were taken with perhaps undue inquiry and perhaps without due trial... Allegedly!
00:11:49.000We learn that yet another thing was completely unnecessary and made up.
00:11:59.000The mad thing about this study, and obviously it was only one study, although 120,000 people nearly, is that the COVID rate was higher among those shielding than people who didn't.
00:12:09.0005.9% for people who shielded, 5.7% of people who didn't.
00:12:24.000Do you know that I've read something about clinical trials once, as you know I'm an investigative journalist, and they said they just keep doing trials until they get the result that they want.
00:12:31.000They're under no obligation to provide all of the information across the trials.
00:12:54.000Somewhere in the region of eight mouses.
00:12:56.000Eight mouses and it, they're still alive, well not that one, but most of those, look
00:13:01.000at their little tiny mouse hearts, they seem to be doing fine.
00:13:04.000Okay, perhaps it's... Have you ever thought how you're personally affected by the might and rise of the military-industrial complex, an institution so powerful that is a de facto tyrannical force in American politics, whether you vote Republican or Democrat, you're gonna end up funding Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc.
00:13:23.000Well, you personally pay for their profits, and it certainly makes me a little more sceptical skeptical about the motivation for these ongoing wars,
00:13:31.000these forever wars that we're engaged in.
00:13:33.000But what I think is truly, truly galling is to personally appreciate the amount of days
00:13:41.000and the amount of money that you are personally contributing.
00:13:43.000Guess now in the chat, guess how many it is.
00:14:14.000Well, obviously, as you're aware, the USA are beginning to subtly agitate for conflict with China over the issue of Taiwan, which they will ultimately package as some sort of humanitarian disaster where they say, we've got to stand with Taiwan.
00:14:32.000Let's just make sure that this is not another one of those wars where you pretend it's a humanitarian disaster and a bunch of people make money.
00:14:38.000Just because, you know, with that other war you did do that.
00:14:44.000Of course the mainstream media can be relied on to give us a fair and balanced perspective on a complex situation which could lead to Armageddon.
00:14:52.000Taiwan makes their own judgments about their independence.
00:14:55.000We are not moving, we're not encouraging them being independent.
00:15:42.000Is that something you've been consulted about?
00:15:44.000Or do you think it's more likely that some hysteria will be whooped up?
00:15:48.000There'll be a moment of jingoism and patriotism where we sort of can't think straight that the cost of this will be economic and human and environmental, that people will Die!
00:15:57.000Because we're deliberately distracted from those hard truths in order that the military-industrial complex can profit.
00:16:04.000As you know, the American financial model requires war in order to survive.
00:16:29.000What was that in the election pledge, by the way, when we were talking about, you know, oh, bloody Donald Trump, let's make sure that people are able to be who they are, stuff I actually obviously agree with.
00:16:38.000And also, we'll probably try and find a way to have a war with China and all.
00:18:15.000And don't make a comparison like saying that the deal that Zelensky's made with BlackRock means that ultimately, in a peculiar way, it's being economically colonized and new opportunities for globalist corporations amounts to a type of colonization.
00:18:48.000China committee chairman Mike Gallagher and ranking member Raja Krishnamurthy set up the exercise with the Center for New American Security.
00:18:58.000This game is going to be a Chinese invasion of Taiwan set in 2027.
00:19:03.000What I don't like about this is that these things have a tendency to actually happen.
00:19:07.000Let me know in the chat in the comments how many times you've noticed, oh what would happen if there was a pandemic?
00:19:12.000What would happen if China invaded Taiwan?
00:19:14.000What exactly do we know right now about their mobilization effort?
00:19:18.000Members from both sides of the aisle coming together, politics set aside.
00:19:24.000Oh, peace and harmony, peace and harmony to come together for a profitable war.
00:19:30.000Have you noticed that when it comes to matters of domestic progress, they are always mired in intransigent muddles.
00:22:00.000We are also prepared to impose maximum economic pressure in the event of an invasion, including sanctions against most major Chinese banks.
00:22:13.000Also, why are they bothering to have like this stupid Dungeons and Dragons but actual wars, when what they're basically doing is exactly what they did with the Ukraine-Russia conflict?
00:22:22.000Well, we'll start off with sanctions, then we'll impose NATO pressure, and then we'll make a load of money.
00:22:27.000Also, this time, we get to have a neat little game.
00:22:33.000Chinese authorities, played by CNAS staffers, quickly counter, surging troops, forcing a communications blackout in Taiwan, and banning exports of electronic goods to the U.S.
00:22:47.000So that means we're going after companies like Apple, Dell, HP.
00:23:02.000Yeah, I'm not actually as worried about my iPhone as I'm worried about a nuclear missile striking the American mainland.
00:23:08.000Well, good luck taking a selfie of you with that mushroom cloud because you're not gonna get it and you won't be printing it out on a Dell printer neither because we're stopping all of that.
00:23:26.000I mean, people talk about politicians and how we're just in it for ourselves, and we're just selfish, profiteering pigs who primarily care about what we're going to do after we leave Congress, and as is the case in one in five Congress people, trading in stocks and shares that we regulate.
00:23:39.000But you just give us the task of practising a war that's going to drain the American people and potentially damage the lives of everyone on the globe, and look at us come together as a team.
00:25:41.000I think you have to just prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
00:25:45.000I think that's just the way that we have to approach this scenario.
00:25:48.000Yeah, well that's actually something you could get off a Christmas cracker or out of a, ironically, a Chinese fortune cookie, although they'll probably be brand any day soon.
00:25:55.000But hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
00:25:56.000That's what you learn from your war games.
00:25:58.000This isn't like, you know, what to do going on holiday with someone you don't get on with that well anymore.
00:26:45.000Though unable to find common ground elsewhere, Democratic and Republican lawmakers invariably forget their differences whenever the Pentagon is involved.
00:26:53.000Despite preaching fiscal restraint on social expenditure, the economic conservatives who dominate both parties have never met a military budget they consider too large or demanded that cruise missiles be subject to a work requirement before they vote yay.
00:27:20.00050% of all All military spending ends up not with the military, not with the troops, not with the brave men and women that fight for America, that are willing to lay down their lives, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, those guys.
00:27:32.000As Stephen Semler of the Security Policy Reform Institute put it back in 2021, roll call votes on military spending reveal that there are considerably fewer deficit hawks or fiscal conservatives in Congress than reported by mainstream media outlets, if any at all.
00:27:47.000The Pentagon's bloated and ever-expanding budget undermines American democracy, not only because it never receives the same scrutiny as other government spending.
00:28:00.000Why do both parties vote in line with more military expenditure?
00:28:04.000We saw it with Ukraine and we've just seen from the rehearsals that you're going to see the same thing in next World War.
00:28:09.000But because it ultimately funnels so much money away from essential and social public goods, as a new report released by the Institute for Policy Studies, IPS, makes vividly clear.
00:28:18.000Published annually on tax day in collaboration with the National Priorities Project, the Institute's analysis examines American income taxes in relation to military and security spending to show just how much of the average person's tax bill is going to the likes of cluster bombs rather than hospitals or schools.
00:28:50.000Isn't it interesting that our attention is continually drawn to cutbacks in education and healthcare But every single one of you, or at least the average taxpayer, paid over $1,000 directly to the Military-Industrial Complex, working on average 21 days for the Military-Industrial Complex.
00:29:06.000Bear that in mind on those 21 days, particularly if you're doing a job that you're not enjoying.
00:29:11.000Let me know in the chat in the comments, like, it's good I'm doing this for Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.
00:29:17.000Does it seem like it's something you should be consulted about and asked about?
00:29:20.000Or do you trust your government enough to allow them to make that decision with your money for you?
00:29:26.000They also paid approximately $74 for the maintenance of nuclear weapons.
00:29:29.000An average taxpayer gave $298 to the five largest military contractors,
00:29:34.000while only $19 went to programs concerned with mental health and substance abuse.
00:29:38.000Mental health and substance abuse, even if you're not directly affected by it, will affect your community.
00:29:43.000It will affect your life, even if it's not a member of your family or you yourself.
00:29:47.000You're living in an environment where people are sick and addicted to drugs, in part because of how miserable and desperate the world is, but also because the resources are being directed elsewhere.
00:29:56.000A significant number of the people that are suffering from addiction issues are suffering because of the opioid crisis.
00:30:14.000You're funding the decline of your own communities, and no one's asking you whether or not that's what you want.
00:30:21.000Let me know in the chat and comments how you feel about that.
00:30:23.000Lockheed Martin, incidentally a major air polluter, received $106 from the average person's income tax contribution, while a mere $6 went to renewable energy.
00:31:23.000Let me know how this system's treating you.
00:31:25.000The system that doesn't allow you to vote for it, and when it does allow you to vote, just does what it wants because, as you just saw in that exercise, both parties, when it comes to the crunch, are going to do exactly the same thing.
00:31:34.000Or 1.69 million jobs paying $15 per hour with benefits for an entire year.
00:31:40.000But people talk a lot about Roosevelt's New Deal, where people that weren't working went to work in national parks, building the America that you love.
00:31:47.000What kind of America do you want for the next generation?
00:31:50.000One where people are building community assets?
00:31:52.000Or one where everyone's in a mad war with China in 2027?
00:31:58.000Ain't got a watch, couldn't get the semiconductors.
00:32:00.000A mere 1% could have salaried approximately 81,000 elementary school teachers over the next 12 months.
00:32:06.000Faced with numbers like these, it's hard to not think about the more generous and humane society that might exist if the institutions of America's government were less captured by the military-industrial complex.
00:32:16.000The United States currently spends more on its military than the next nine countries combined, the majority of which are allies.
00:32:22.000Yeah, but they could turn against us at any time.
00:32:49.000Since the late 1970s, American politics have been dominated by a strand of fiscal conservatism that views taxes as evil and the state as a quasi-illegitimate body that skims from the wealth ordinary citizens earn.
00:33:00.000There are many problems with this argument, but it's especially difficult to take it seriously given that its proponents always seem to exclude military spending from the equation.
00:33:09.000If that argument is robust, if that argument is sound, then it has to apply to military expenditure.
00:33:15.000I recognise the security of America is a significant subject for many of you.
00:33:19.000But remember, where is this money going really?
00:33:22.000Because if it was really going to the troops, who I'm sure we all support, why are they in significant numbers unable to afford food, shelter, and why are 11% of all homeless people in America veterans?
00:33:34.000Let me know in the chat and the comments.
00:33:35.000Considering how little scrutiny such spending receives, and considering that it continues to increase regardless of who's in power, ordinary Americans are effectively being forced to subsidize a bloated military bureaucracy to the tune of hundreds of billions every year, all while having zero say in the matter.
00:33:51.000NPP's analysis comes just over a month after the White House released President Joe Biden's $1.6 trillion budget request for the fiscal year of 2024.
00:34:00.000More than half of that amount, $886 billion, would go to the military.
00:34:04.000Responding to the $886 billion request, NPP Program Director Lindsey Koshgarian said last month that this military budget represents a shameful status quo that the country can no longer afford.
00:34:15.000Families are struggling to afford basics like housing, food and medicine, and our last pandemic-era protections are ending, all while Pentagon contractors pay their CEOs millions straight from the public treasury, Koshgarian noted.
00:34:27.000A responsible budget would restore the Pentagon's spending to previous reduced levels from just a few short years ago and reinvest that additional money at home where we need it the most, she added.
00:34:37.000The Democrats and the Republicans are coming together to rehearse a war with Taiwan that will cost you a lot of money and gain the military-industrial complex even more of your money.
00:34:48.000You're already paying them over $1,000 a year.
00:34:50.000Wouldn't you like to vote on where that money goes?
00:34:52.000Wouldn't you like to hear alternative arguments for how that money could be spent?
00:34:56.000Wouldn't you like to be in control of your own communities and lives, having decentralized democracies that are local to you, where you could have pride?
00:35:05.000Letting go of how other people want to run their communities, because let's face it, it's not our business how other people live if it doesn't affect us, is it?
00:35:14.000Is the way that the military-industrial complex is continually agitating for conflict in order to spend your tax dollars on wars abroad that it could be argued are nothing to do with you and wouldn't even be happening without their agenda being imposed on your nation.
00:36:01.000Otherwise, unlike Joe Rogan's advice to me that you should do stuff that you authentically care about, we will experience a great drop off in viewing figures, but I urge you to stay with us.
00:37:08.000Well, I want to take this opportunity, actually, just to talk about their recent games and to give an overview of where the Premier League currently is.
00:37:16.000After leading for the entire season, Arsenal are in a period of, not decline, but deterioration, would you call it?
00:37:26.000Even though they beat Chelsea really well last night.
00:37:31.000I just think Man City are incredible and they've hit an amazing run of form.
00:37:35.000Yeah, it's more like they're an unstoppable football force backed by a nation and inconceivable wealth.
00:37:43.000And if you pay too much attention to it, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that like all things, football, entertainment, music, politics, everything has been completely and entirely corrupted by money.
00:37:55.000And the only way you wouldn't pay attention to that is if you supported Manchester City or indeed Newcastle United, in which case you'd sort of go, oh this is actually brilliant, I can't believe how much fun this is.
00:38:04.000sort of be willing to put aside the certain knowledge there's something deeply deeply unfair about this mad acquisition of players in particular Calvin Phillips who's just been purchased essentially watch other people play football while earning presumably a couple hundred grand a week front row seats to see some of the best players in the world When you watched Man City versus Arsenal round my house with your dinner on your lap, did you think that the players on the City bench, like Foden, would be so celebrated and adored at Arsenal that it might, on some level, be distasteful to be in that position?
00:38:42.000And maybe that there should be some reshuffle?
00:38:44.000And isn't it sort of weird that American sport, when America is so ultimately corporatised, has this peculiar socialism throughout its The draft system.
00:38:55.000I know when you look at that bench of City and you look at what Arsenal have been able to do by bringing in Zinchenko and Jesus this year and the kind of impact that they've made to the Arsenal team and then you looked at the Man City bench and who they could bring on you thought what if they went to Arsenal what difference they would make but Man City can just bring them on switch out some other players amazing I mean There was all that talk earlier in the season, wasn't there?
00:39:20.000Oh, Man City, they're not the same team.
00:39:22.000And Haaland, he's not really working, is he?
00:40:44.000Even before he came to City, when he used to do them interviews, he would be like monosyllabic, like binary language.
00:40:51.000Like there's a bluntness to him, sort of a bluntness to his excellence.
00:40:54.000When you think of like that he's being hailed as the new Messi, like the natural successor of the mantle of the world's best player.
00:41:01.000That the previous one was like a small boy from Argentina, sort of slightly damaged, and his mischievous genius nevertheless, in spite of his diminutive size, blesses him and transports him across the world.
00:41:15.000That the next incarnation of that for this age is this mighty Nordic cyborg with presumably a Thor's hammer-like cock.
00:41:25.000Possibly the helmet More red than the usual man.
00:41:44.000But Harland, my suspicion is there's a sort of a potent roaring redness to it.
00:41:51.000I love just the thought of you making notes on football over the weekend and you know, oh Manchester City have won and this that and the other, they've regained top spot and Harland isn't he like a robotic Nordic And I wonder, I think he's probably got a more purple tip of his penis than everyone else.
00:42:07.000It's just an amazing way that you get to that, I think.
00:42:11.000Arsenal's, as you say, not declined, but inevitable, uh, um, what do you want to call it?
00:42:43.000Do you sometimes think that their names, like Pep has got this incredible vim and power and of course Arsene Wenger's name sounds a bit like Arsenal.
00:42:53.000I think about it all the time and even Arteta sounds a bit like Arsenal.
00:42:59.000And when Conte was manager of Spurs, I used to think even that has a certain, if you just change one letter, it describes Tottenham almost perfectly.
00:43:09.000Sometimes like your name or some aspect of your identity is somehow informing your reality.
00:43:15.000There's Kevin Keegan for those of you who didn't know.
00:43:18.000Even though we know that American interest in the sport of football is in He's growing enormously because, mostly, of Wrexham.
00:43:28.000I'm irritated by this for a number of reasons.
00:43:31.000Firstly, Wrexham rhymes nearly with West Ham, the team I support.
00:43:38.000Yeah, it is a stretch, because the main reason is because it's like Ryan Reynolds, a Hollywood star, and his other mate out of Sunday in Philadelphia, own it, and I'm annoyed that that's happened.
00:43:56.000And like our mate David Squires, the cartoonist for the Guardian, does a brilliant sort of football column.
00:44:01.000He says, no, this is still a heartwarming story.
00:44:04.000And I mean, look, I don't want to take the sort of fun out of it because of my own petty jealousies.
00:44:07.000Should we, like, Wrexham, the club that I'm sure you're aware now, Ryan Reynolds and his mate from San Diego Philadelphia, got promoted to the Football League.
00:44:17.000And here they are going around Wrexham.
00:44:19.000🎵🎵🎵 They should have opened with that shot.
00:44:43.000That's the sort of impressive shot for something that's happening in, like, Wrexham.
00:44:47.000Not that I've spent a lot of time in Wrexham.
00:44:58.000When David Gold, God rest his soul, and David Sullivan took over West Ham, even though their money was made through the pornography industry, I said, this is good.
00:45:08.000These guys are going to wank us back to the big time.
00:45:18.000And what about what a move getting Ben Foster, who's been a guest on this show, to come on.
00:45:23.000It's only petty jealousy, and I know that petty jealousy is something I have to overcome.
00:45:26.000I actually applaud Ryan Reynolds and Tom McHale.
00:45:30.000Yeah, because the reality of it is, Ross, if you'd have done this... I'd be so happy.
00:45:35.000Well, first of all, you'd be so happy, but would we have got to this point, or would there have been issues in week one of... What would they have been?
00:46:31.000But you think that's a better method is it?
00:46:33.000I think so because I will say it's amazing what's happened and like I
00:46:37.000applaud them and I think they've gone about it in all the right ways and just
00:46:40.000seeing this like what's incredible is like that they've they really have
00:46:46.000bought into the whole culture of it they've not just gone right we're gonna
00:46:50.000go every now and again to a game and then we'll put some money in there they're
00:46:53.000like all the time they're doing this I mean they're literally this status quo
00:46:58.000they've probably never heard that song rocking all over the world it's like
00:47:00.000real like working-class football culture that those two guys obviously really
00:47:04.000bought into and I think that's amazing but what I will say is when you get into
00:47:08.000the Football League and then you start going up the divisions it's not about
00:47:11.000putting a few million quid in you're talking about putting in tens hundreds
00:47:15.000of millions of quid in And whether or not things will change, I don't want to be, you know, I put a dampener on it, but I think things get a bit tougher.
00:47:22.000I do want to put a dampener on it, and here is that dampener.
00:47:29.000That sort of becomes sort of a popular thing.
00:47:31.000Won't watch that for other reasons of pettiness.
00:47:34.000My whole cultural intake is determined by pettiness.
00:47:37.000I can basically only watch our stuff back and even then for only about five minutes, right?
00:47:44.000But what I feel is that somewhere marketing decisions have been made and ultimately the Disney show Well, isn't it just Lower League Man City?
00:48:00.000I don't see that as my role in the world.
00:48:01.000But I actually feel that football is a powerful window into the heart of our national psyche and perhaps football more broadly and let us know what sort of sport Means to you they somehow deeply connected to community and the sort of romance that they're enjoying and the Cultural connection that they're enjoying might elsewhere be regarded as a kind of cultural appropriation if it were similarly being Utilized for profit, but we'll sort of see where it goes and I've totally understand if I spoil Rexham And I wasn't so petty
00:48:37.000And you can't make the comparison, obviously, that some actors are comparable to... I don't know, can you?
00:48:45.000Because it gets complicated when you start talking about Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia money behind Newcastle.
00:48:50.000Because you say, well, hold on a minute, they literally are regimes that have values that are at odds with our progressivism.
00:48:56.000But then you have to expand that conversation and go, well, what about the values that are behind the colonialism that put Britain in the position it was in In the first place, you know, even this country, you know, if you've seen The Crown, you'd have seen, like, that mining disaster that could have been handled differently in the 1960s at Aberatham or whatever.
00:49:15.000That it captures and harnesses so many of the beautiful things about human beings and some of the flawed things as well.
00:49:22.000Because as much as it brings about unity, it brings about tribalism.
00:49:26.000But I feel like it's an honest crucible for humans coming together football.
00:49:29.000It's a place where you can really learn about...
00:49:34.000I watched this thing the other day, right, where it talks about Millwall and West Ham, you know, the team I support and Millwall, their historic rival.
00:49:43.000It was a documentary about, like, their deep, entrenched hatred between them.
00:49:46.000And even up until 2012, I think, when there was a sort of a cup match between West Ham and Millwall, there was still violence then, even when, like, sort of football violence was in decline.
00:49:55.000There was a documentary where it was a Millwall fan's perspective on those events, just a YouTube video, actually.
00:50:00.000He was going, like, The only time that we've ever put aside is for like this young kid got cancer and Millwall fans and West Ham fans raised money for this young kid with cancer.
00:50:12.000And he goes like, and sadly she died, God love her, like a little four-year-old girl.
00:50:16.000And like in the video it goes, you know, the only time Millwall fans and West Ham come and give her is for Lily, I think her name was Lily, she was beautification.
00:50:22.000We actually even wore the colours of Clarion Blue to support her.
00:50:27.000To this day, she is the only West Ham fan who will be welcome at the Den.
00:50:31.000That's how entrenched the rivalry and the hatred is.
00:50:37.000But they did indeed come together, and of course notably around the sort of terrible deaths, unlawful deaths of the 97 that died at Hillsborough, the Liverpool fans at the Liverpool v Forest Cup semi-final.
00:50:51.000There's so much sentiment, so much potency, so much power in it that I actually genuinely sometimes think that it's something that could contribute meaningfully to cultural and social change, that people understand something that's difficult to articulate around football.
00:51:14.000And that actually fans should own their football teams, that they shouldn't be corporatised, that they should belong to the people that support the club.
00:51:22.000And all of the things that that would bring about would ultimately end up being ethical and more fair.
00:52:10.000Is your point about the hair though, going back to that, are you trying to say they're trying to channel the successes of that earlier Liverpool side?
00:52:35.000Their hair is thriving and flourishing.
00:52:37.000Do you think there was a point in the season where they just hadn't won?
00:52:39.000I mean, I think they've won four on the trot now, but they hadn't won two on the spin or something, where the cops said, it's time for plan B. All grow your hair.
00:52:52.000When I saw him falling over when he was sort of turned I think by, I can't remember, Kane maybe, I don't know, like for one of the goals against Tottenham where they eventually won 4-3, I thought that wouldn't have happened.
00:53:06.000There used to be a stat that nobody in the world I mean, you know, that's football, isn't it?
00:53:11.000he was just an invincible force. You can't get past him.
00:53:14.000No. It's sad isn't it? I mean, you know, that's football isn't it? You get injured, things change.
00:53:20.000Life changes. There's a few things that I want to talk about. Gakpo could be a good name for
00:53:26.000a cocaine slang or a Teletubbies name. Could work for either of those things.
00:53:32.000Also I suppose we're sort of unlucky in that game because they hit the post a couple of times and
00:55:26.000What about sometimes when wee comes out, and you think, that should only be a little bit, because it feels like it should only be a little bit.
00:56:47.000Like, he sort of went to elbow him, but it's that sort of, it's the same, when there's an altercation between an official and a player, I think the officials always only sort of mime, like, mime their part of the occasion.
00:56:59.000In the famous Paulo de Cano versus, what's he called, Paul Alcock or something like that, like, the way that referee went down was like he'd been shot.
00:57:07.000Like, and the skirmish between those two... That was embarrassing.
00:57:26.000We asked you to contribute your most embarrassing moments where you have celebrated, like, well, this is the question, I think we posted this on Elon Musk's Citadel of Truth.
00:59:36.000I'm going to be much more circumspect about the side I pick, and I'll be clinging to the waist of a stuntman, something like that, or a farmer.
00:59:43.000And I'll say, don't think I should be the anchor.
01:00:03.000Also, look, this is the type of school where it's not like hotly competing and people sort of, it's not like Jurgen Klopp farting out a hemorrhoid and banging himself on the chest till he breaks his own sternum.
01:01:23.000Yeah, I've been, yeah, I mean... And of course, when we were watching Sea Arsenal, I was fighting quite a lot while we were having that curry.
01:01:29.000I had a barbecue with a guy the other day, which sounds a bit weird.
01:01:33.000I don't know him that well, but it's in this flat that I'm living in and I was driving back home.
01:01:38.000Is it the guy that came when I visited you that first day, that young lad?
01:01:42.000It's a different guy, and he said... What is it, like, fucking Beverly Hills 90210 around there, with these young guys, with Luke Perry coming out?
01:03:53.000I knew it, oh, when I'm having blankets, otherwise they're gonna crease in the corners, it won't be like a picnic.
01:03:57.000He was very meticulous about pulling them out right to the corners as well, so I helped at one point, pulling them out to the corners.
01:04:01.000I hope he was that meticulous when he was taking down your drawers!
01:04:07.000So we do the blankets and then we do the small talk and the cars and I go through like basically his whole life's history, asking him about everything.
01:04:35.000But with the things like, for example, when he was going through, I've marinated this pork and I've got these sausages from a special halal shop and all these kind of things.
01:05:52.000Anyway, the first time he puts the blanket down, I notice, and I think, oh, it's just one of those accidents, I'm obviously not going to mention it, he does a massive couple of farts.
01:10:41.000It's customary at Premier League football matches to begin with a rousing anthem.
01:10:45.000West Ham of course have, I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles, You'll Never Walk Alone.
01:10:49.000At Liverpool, Z Cars Forever, and many clubs have, sometimes they do the same one, like Brentford are using Hey Jude, what's the connection?
01:10:56.000Anyway, but like, Newcastle are using the music out of Omen.
01:13:57.000Roy Hodgson, like, during the COVID pandemic, when games were played behind closed doors essentially, he weren't meant to be there because he was too old.
01:14:03.000You know, like, he was maybe shielding, which we now know weren't bloody doing anything.
01:14:07.000They told Roy Hodgson of shielding, but... Well, I like Roy Hodgson because I sort of like the way he sort of relaxes.
01:14:14.000Like, no, he's actually, well, they won six on the bounce, they're right out of trouble.
01:14:17.000How can Roy Hodgson, who's all sort of old and lovely like a melting ice cream, be better at managing than Vieira, who's, like, so sexy and potent?
01:15:12.000Look, what worries me is the sweet poetry of football.
01:15:14.000The sweet poetry of football, which I don't like to see exploited, neither by, you know, rogue states, even though perhaps we're just talking about chronology, really, because all states are rogue states, ultimately, aren't they?
01:15:25.000I guess that's a question for you to answer.
01:15:27.000Or, You know, Wrexham, the harnessing and utilising of romance and goodwill for commodity and product.
01:15:35.000Now, you're saying that it's not that, and obviously I bow to your superior knowledge and optimism.
01:15:38.000Oh, I'm not saying that it's not that.
01:17:48.000It's amazing how things can change in a short period of time, isn't it?
01:17:51.000You've got Frank Lampard now, which, as you say, is in danger of ruining his legacy with Chelsea.
01:17:55.000And then Roy Hodgson, two stints at Palace, especially this stint at Palace, where he's going to be like a legend forever at Palace for coming and doing what he's doing, especially if they continue in the vein of form that they are at the moment.
01:18:06.000Couldn't happen to a nicer man, because I love Roy Hodgson.
01:18:30.000At least put yourself as one of the background figures.
01:18:33.000A photograph tattoo is always... It's an interesting thing, and I would never, you know what I mean, because usually it's a homage to a dead relative, isn't it?
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