00:00:22.000Here's some information about Jim Gale.
00:00:24.000Jim Gale is an entrepreneur, permaculture advocate, and founder of Food Forest Abundance.
00:00:30.000After building a successful mortgage company that reportedly generated over $1 billion in sales, a period of personal and financial upheaval led him to rethink.
00:00:43.000Influenced by time spent in nature and studying regenerative systems, he shifted his focus toward permaculture and food sovereignty.
00:00:51.000Now, through food forest abundance, he designs edible landscapes for homes, schools, and communities while promoting food security, self reliance, and regenerative living through projects like the Freedom Farm Academy.
00:01:05.000I'm fascinated to talk to Jim because I'm interested in establishing new communities that are.
00:01:11.000Off grid and are not controlled by centralized, hypocritical, corrupt forces, whether that's media, government, or commercial.
00:01:19.000That's why now we're devoting our time to learning from people who can instruct us in running our own communities.
00:01:25.000As part of my campaign to become Mayor of London in 2028, we'll be bringing to the forefront policies and ideas designed to make participatory democracy normal.
00:01:35.000Referenda, like in Switzerland, where four times a year people vote on stuff that's important to them.
00:01:40.000Well, why not have a London where you vote on the London that you want to live in?
00:01:48.000Indeed, permaculture is in part based on the idea that technology could be used to give you food freedom rather than have food centralized and controlled.
00:01:56.000And while we're on that subject, why do you think there are agricultural protests all over the world right now?
00:02:02.000Because centralized power is trying to co-opt control over food.
00:02:25.000What are you looking at right now, mate?
00:02:26.000Because we've started doing shows where we invite people on to tell us how we could create fully independent, autonomous communities where, if we wanted, we could be off grid.
00:02:38.000What's the point in switching one corrupt politician for another corrupt politician, whether that's at a national level or a local level?
00:02:45.000It's the system itself that needs to change.
00:02:48.000And as long as people are dependent on a scarcity mindset, And come feed themselves or provide energy, we'll be enslaved to this corrupt system.
00:02:56.000My understanding is, Jim, that you've found one of the key components for getting us out of this prison.
00:03:04.000Russell, I am going to demonstrate and show you and your amazing audience right now the solution to all of the world's biggest problems it's stewardship, it's earth care and people care, it's taking care of the land, which when we take care of the land, a tiny investment in stewardship.
00:03:31.000So, five, four, like three months ago, this system behind me was all brown.
00:03:39.000We had a mega freeze, it was all dead.
00:03:42.000And now it's a mega, it's an incredible food production system.
00:03:47.000In this system, we have about 70 different types of perennial food producing plants.
00:03:54.000And when we create mass adoption, when we create awareness that leads to mass adoption of stewardship, it's the only way that we are going to win this war.
00:04:06.000And any plan that does not lead with stewardship, earth care, and people care is a lie.
00:04:15.000I've noticed that Bill Gates is the most obvious example of billionaires that are acquiring land, acquiring in particular farmland.
00:04:26.000people in positions to do so are bunkering up and acquiring remote properties.
00:04:32.000And my strong sense is that by 2030 or around 2030, through successive crisis events, further authoritarianism will be leveraged on people of various countries, if not all countries.
00:04:46.000And what I've been thinking, Jim, is that we need to create a confederacy of independent autonomous communities that are food independent and energy independent.
00:04:56.000that use cryptocurrencies to Trade with one another and use information technology to communicate with one another, but each community is fully independent and fully autonomous.
00:05:06.000Are you saying that through permaculture we could create food independence?
00:05:12.000I'm not saying that we could, I'm demonstrating that we are.
00:05:17.000Our family homestead right behind me is 100% off grid.
00:06:04.000He said, I will never bother you again.
00:06:06.000And the government has never been back.
00:06:09.000Jim, that's a really inspiring story, and I really hope that as a result of this appearance, you don't have a Waco style disaster on your hands.
00:06:17.000Because one of my great teachers and mentors tells me that as soon as you make that assertion, government don't come in here, that's when it really, really starts.
00:06:27.000As soon as you start to demonstrate, whether it's as like our mutual friend Joby Weeks, that Bitcoin can make you independently wealthy and presents a challenge to centralized finance, or whether in information technology you can communicate.
00:06:41.000Off message information to large numbers of people, you become a kind of threat to this system.
00:06:48.000But I'm going through a lot at the moment, and I can't talk directly about some of it because, you know, contempt of court laws and the potential of my bow being withdrawn.
00:06:56.000But I'm very, very interested, Jim, in community.0.98
00:07:02.000I'm tired of participating within their system.0.99
00:07:05.000I'm tired of like coming up with, oh, maybe if I do this or that, you know, I'm thinking about running for political office, specifically Mayor of London, but only so London can be a place of referenda.
00:07:16.000Like Switzerland, where you'd say to the population, you don't really need a mayor.
00:09:49.000I started a mortgage company 30 years ago, did $1.3 billion in revenue.
00:09:55.000Bought a boat, lived on the ocean, and then I learned that the world is controlled by some sort of evil.
00:10:01.000And then I went through the process of awakening and I invested every penny I had into the solution until I wound up dead broke six years ago because of the narrative, the false narrative of COVID.
00:10:16.000And I was desperate and I was not a man of full faith.
00:10:21.000And I was weeping and I was walking and I was begging God for guidance.
00:12:09.000I'm contemplating that, but I've also contemplated my goal.
00:12:12.000My goal is for our kids to have a future.
00:12:17.000And right now, I'm hyper aware of the bee population collapse, the ecosystem.
00:12:22.000The plankton, the mining, the extraction, the agenda that is playing out before our eyes.
00:12:28.000I'm hyper aware that all of these distractions of government are simply taking our attention away from the fact that when we walk into the grocery store in the United States, it's poison.
00:12:44.000And one in three kids in the United States have diabetes and they're suffering, right?
00:12:49.000All else is a distraction from the war.
00:12:52.000That's actually happening all around us.
00:12:55.000And the solution to war is faith and courage and stewardship and service and transparency.
00:13:01.000It's all well and good you saying that you can have a permaculture utopia there with your 400 acre lake.
00:13:07.000What about normal people in towns and cities?
00:13:10.000How can they meet their own food resources, Jim?
00:13:17.000That's all the world needs mass adoption of awareness that leads to planting seeds.
00:13:23.000If people have a condo, We're working with homeless people, giving them sweet potato starts, and they're creating sweet potato beds around their homeless encampments.
00:13:33.000So there's nobody that can't grow food.
00:13:38.000And by the way, we have created school reform models.
00:13:43.000In fact, I met with Bobby Kennedy two and a half years ago, and I said, Bobby, the campaign strategy that I'm going to share with you now will not only win you a fair election, right?
00:13:54.000We all know that it's not fair, but the campaign itself.
00:14:02.000So I laid out four documents in front of him.
00:14:05.000The first talking point is I will take the poisons out of our schools and our children will heal.
00:14:13.000If this is the only thing we did, is turn every school into a nursery and we added the curriculum of regenerative agriculture or permaculture or stewardship, then every school, it would absolutely change the world in four years.
00:14:30.000Same thing with prison reform, same thing with park and county land reform.
00:14:35.000We literally have the answers to all of it.
00:14:38.000And that's what the whole campaign platform, which is called stewardshipparty.org, is all about.
00:14:47.000Click the link in the description at the bottom of the screen and it'll take you directly there.
00:14:51.000Now, when I was a kid growing up, mate, we had allotments at the end of our street, meant that the houses, if they didn't have enough room, could grow food down there.
00:15:00.000It used to be considered a normal thing.
00:15:01.000And like my grandparents' generation and parents, that would have been.
00:15:04.000Standard practice that you'd participate in the provision of your own food.
00:15:08.000And of course, like mass centralized agriculture and big food benefit from us being absolutely dependent on very, very cheap salt and sugar loaded synthetic foods that ultimately maybe cause more harm than good.
00:15:23.000And I wonder, Jim, if it would be possible for a city like London to meaningfully participate in a scheme to provide a significant amount of its own food.
00:15:37.000Think about the climate in that place, you know, that cold, chilly old, grisly old, drizzly old place.
00:15:42.000Would it be possible for London to be transformed?
00:15:45.000Not only possible, it's not greenwashing.
00:15:49.000It's not this sustainable WEF initiative.
00:15:56.000When we simply take the poisons out, and in fact, in America here, we have 50 million acres of lawn.
00:16:04.000If we simply converted half of that into fruit trees and berry bushes with maybe some chickens running around, we would have enough food growing where the billion acres of Poisoned farmland would go back to nature because there'd be no use for it in a commercial sense.
00:16:24.000Do you think that there's significant work done, both administratively and in terms of the conscious levels or conscience levels of the American population, to prevent those kind of ideas being popularized?
00:16:38.000It is the fundamental deception of our world.
00:16:42.000We are working with incredible organizations like the Church of Glad Tidings, where we're designing embassy gardens.
00:16:50.000And we're integrating the schools into the practice so the students can learn how to grow food at school.
00:16:58.000And so it's a matter not of new taxation or new force and violence and coercion of government.
00:17:05.000It's a matter of tweaking the resources that we are already using and using them more wisely.
00:17:31.000We still buy food at the store because I don't know how to cook yet, and I'm learning.
00:17:35.000Almost every day, I eat fish and eggs and some fruit from the land.
00:17:40.000We have now designed, there's an entity called foodforestabundance.com, and we have designed permaculture landscapes for people in 54 countries.
00:19:28.000If you want to truly experience the secrets of God, Spirit, Christ consciousness, then feel the frequency, the energy, and the vibration and ask questions.
00:19:39.000And when we ask GI for questions, GI has the best answers.
00:19:45.000I've been going through this process that I'm calling peristalsis.
00:19:48.000You know, like I'm going through this kind of crushing and then release, crushing and then release, crushing and then release.
00:19:55.000In the periods of feeling like crushed, it gets so close to.
00:19:59.000It's so painful, Jim, that I just feel like I can't survive it.
00:20:03.000And then it releases and always accompanied with interesting insight.
00:20:09.000I came up with this phrase that I know you're going to love blockchain Amish, that we should become the blockchain Amish, fully independent communities, but that we do use technology in order to trade and to.
00:20:22.000But like the community itself, whatever ideology the community has is up to the community.
00:20:27.000You could have an LGBTQ community if you wanted, Muslim, Christian.
00:20:34.000True individuality, true variety and diversity, not superficial diversity while under the surface homogeneity and total centralized control rules actually make every community independent in every single way possible.
00:20:52.000Diversity is the foundation of strength of our system in permaculture and of humanity.
00:20:59.000So, what I my foreign policy is very simple it is to talk to the people.
00:21:05.000And to share knowledge, to share information, and to share seeds.
00:21:09.000Because when we can help the people, the Muslims and the Jews and the Christians and all the different groups come together around one thing, tikkum olam in Jewish means, in Hebrew, means stewardship, right?
00:21:23.000And there's a Muslim word for stewardship.
00:21:25.000All communities around the world have a word for earth care and people care.
00:21:30.000And that's the binding element that stops all the wars.
00:21:35.000When we share information, and by the way, this idea of free energy and blockchain if we took 35% of the crypto market cap and we put it into food forestry, we would have 100 million dollar food forest nurseries in every single city in the world.
00:21:59.000So, how and right, okay, so what you're talking about firstly, generate the revenue through the 30% market cap of crypto.
00:22:07.000Then have a global initiative that would have to be decentralized and locally organized to implement forestry.
00:23:11.000Several videos to you because I love your work for years now.
00:23:15.000And this is absolutely an amazing day for me because this message is going to catalyze a shift in awareness that leads to thousands, if not millions, of people becoming stewards again and planting seeds.
00:23:31.000How does the technology help us to overcome the conditions that prevent growth?
00:23:37.000Because if you think about it, and I know that you do because you're an absolute lunatic, plainly, is that agriculture, while it met a lot of food needs, what it actually did is it centralized power and it reduced.
00:23:56.000Now, of course, it solved a lot of starvation issues, but what you're suggesting with your garden or forest model is a kind of abundant hunter-gatherer model, in a sense, that you're living in abundance but with variety.
00:24:11.000But you've already said that not every environment affords the same type of soil.
00:24:15.000I'm always hearing the crop, there's only one more harvest left in the crop.
00:24:20.000I'm always hearing things like that in Europe.
00:24:21.000They're always saying stuff like that.
00:24:22.000And the farmers, In every country across the world, by the way, are in crisis, whether it's Sri Lanka or the UK or Germany.
00:24:37.000So tell me, first of all, I mean, I obviously know why that is.
00:24:40.000It's because centralized interests are trying to control the food sources and they're trying to shut down farms as a way of doing that.0.72
00:25:01.000I do know some people doing some farming and stuff like that.
00:25:04.000What type of technology is being used to ensure that 365 you can meet the food, a community's food needs?
00:25:13.000Yeah, so two answers to two different questions there.
00:25:16.000Henry Kissinger in 1974, as the head of the Council on Foreign Relations, the guy who appointed Klaus Schwab and met with every U.S. president, said, if you want to control nations, control energy.
00:25:43.000And so, the first step is to be aware that this whole thing is an agenda.
00:25:47.000And what I've come to believe is this is what started with the original fear, the original seed of fear planted in the Garden of Eden, which is planted in all of our minds through our stories, right?
00:26:59.000You create swales, which are ditches on contour, and you fill them with biomass.
00:27:05.000Right now, they're greening areas of deserts across Africa by digging ditches like half moon shaped ditches and then filling them up with seeds of hardy plants and biomass.
00:27:17.000So, if it rains once every three years, the rain soaks in and now they have a green wall being built.
00:27:27.000Here, I've got an illegal septic system, and I've told the EPA, I cannot comply with you because compliance to your system means death.
00:27:37.000Right, as they spray us and poison us at every level, and they're not bothering me because bothering me would be bad for them because of how outspoken I am and the fact that I'm right.0.98
00:27:49.000And so, my septic system creates the environment using a living microbiome for rapid decomposition of shit.0.96
00:27:58.000And then, this whole system behind me is fertilized by our family's septic.0.99
00:28:06.000I once went to the Hare Krishna's place in Mumbai.
00:28:10.000Or just about an hour outside of Mumbai in India, that was fully food independent and they were growing everything that they were eating.
00:28:18.000They were looking after their livestock.
00:28:20.000They were vegetarian, of course, the Hare Krishnas, and I was vegan back then.1.00
00:28:25.000One thing I do remember is I couldn't get a good cup of coffee out of those people.0.99
00:28:29.000They won't drink tea and coffee, those Krishnas, but you can't impose that on everybody.1.00
00:28:34.000So, what you're saying is that if you focus, actually, if you return the individual and community focus to basic ideas like Provision of food and shelter using modern technologies that are always marshaled towards centralization and the implementation of control rather than the facilitation of freedom, then we could actually live a very different kind of life, a life that's more connected, connected to the stewardship of land and communication with one another.
00:29:03.000And you've achieved it yourself and you're participating in projects elsewhere.
00:29:07.000How is it, can you tell me, that you became friends with the fugitive, longest house arrest?
00:29:14.000Prisoner in American history, Joby Weeks, Bitcoin entrepreneur, friend of the show and guest.
00:29:37.000He wrote a document probably over a decade ago now that lays out solutions.
00:29:44.000We have written lots of documents that lay out solutions.
00:29:47.000Now, our job is to get awareness on these solutions, and they include decentralized money.
00:29:54.000One of the things that I talked to Joby about is we need to have a digital asset that is actually backed by regenerative works.
00:30:04.000I don't know exactly how that will work, but then we can have an asset that's literally born in abundance as an asset instead of born as a liability or a debt.
00:30:17.000And it's very encouraging for me to hear that.
00:30:20.000Across the world, a bit like Elijah, you think you're the only person suffering, the only person going through this stuff.
00:30:27.000But everywhere, there are people that have got their own connection with God that are working on receiving the information in their own way, whether it's through the provision of food, solving the problem of finance and trade.
00:30:41.000When there are centralized institutions that want to control money through inflation and have the ability to switch off your ability to trade and communicate at will, it's very encouraging for me.
00:30:53.000There's a few things I want to ask you about directly, Jim.
00:30:56.000If I run for mayor of London, is it possible to say that we will implement projects to make London food independent?
00:31:09.000How far could you go in a modern city with a modest mandate?
00:31:17.000So, first of all, mandates, anything that is coercive and backed up by force and violence, we're going into a new time where voluntarism, this idea of doing what's best for me, Is also what's best for you, right?
00:31:33.000The permaculture ethics are earth care, people care, and reinvesting our surplus to earth care and people care, which is why I've donated all my assets to the foundation.
00:31:44.000Um, so this platform, stewardshipparty.org, is going to have all the assets, all the strategies, all the techniques to reform HOAs, to reform retail, to reform schooling and prisons and all of the systems.
00:31:59.000Because here's the fun part they're already proven.
00:32:03.000There's no, I don't get any arguments about this.
00:32:06.000I get ignored often because, like you said, I can be a raging lunatic from time to time.
00:32:12.000But nobody argues with me because when people argue in a public forum, they get the shit beat out of them because we're right and we can prove that we're right and science proves that we're right.0.85
00:32:26.000For instance, one study on prisons the recidivism rate in a prison in California that implemented gardening in prison went from 67% to 10%.
00:32:37.000Right, that's what I'm sharing is literally a strategy that will end the majority of crime.
00:32:57.000So, you know, for 19 years since I started waking up, I hired other people to do my gardening because I thought I had more important stuff to do on my birthday on Christmas Eve.
00:33:11.000I put down the phone and I went into the garden and I started becoming the steward that I was meant to be on my, like, that was my salvation.
00:33:25.000I'm 56 years old and I just did 30 pull ups.
00:33:27.000Like, it's just incredible what happens when we connect again to God's design, to Mother Earth.
00:33:36.000The healing, I'm looking at just walking barefoot on the ground will actually help us release these.
00:33:44.000Energy systems that are stuck in our bodies that are toxic to us.
00:33:48.000So, the act of stewardship is our salvation.
00:33:53.000So, you're right about that, actually.
00:33:54.000So, like, you don't have a mandate in London.
00:33:57.000What you do is when campaigning for mayor, you'd say one of our policies will be initiatives to grow food, to make London food independent, so that you're not so dependent.
00:34:11.000It will create jobs because people, you can work.
00:34:14.000On your own food sources, but also we can have initiatives London wide to turn these parts of these parks and these public spaces into food and to permaculture.
00:35:00.000And we've done this, and it's mind boggling how effective it is.
00:35:03.000We go door to door, and instead of having yard signs, we have sweet potato starts or plant seeds or tomato seeds or something alive.
00:35:13.000And we say, Hey, the food supply chain is in trouble.
00:35:18.000And so I've got extra food, and I just wanted to knock on your door.
00:35:22.000I'm a neighbor here, and I wanted to give you this sweet potato start.
00:35:27.000100% of people who first looked at me like, what are you doing here?
00:35:31.000100% of them were giving me a high five or a hug when I left the door.
00:35:38.000I like that you're very positive and optimistic.
00:35:41.000A lot of times when I hear people talk about ecology, it has an apocalyptic kind of tone to it.
00:35:49.000Think of like the ecological movements as typified and in a way represented by.
00:35:57.000Greta Thunberg, who I think is a heroic young person, actually, and very brilliant and very brave and has great fortitude.
00:36:04.000But there's a sort of a sense of doom and also trying to implement change through centralized bureaucracies that primarily exist in order to ensure that those aims are never met because they, by nature, require centralized control.
00:36:20.000So, how are you maintaining that optimism?
00:36:24.000And what do you think is the most important thing for us to understand, Jim?
00:36:27.000What things can we propose and suggest?
00:36:32.000You know, like I like that, your sweet potato startup thing as a part of our campaign.
00:36:36.000I like the idea that one of the initiatives I can push when running for Mayor of London is food independence and labour generation and focusing on things that we all share, like, as you said, stewardship, that we don't need to spend all our time arguing about who's Muslim and who's gay and who's a Jew and who's Christian and whatnot.
00:36:52.000We can all just work together on the provision of food and, in a sense, cleansing our city of corporate and commercial external control.
00:37:03.000And we will actually write a campaign strategy for you, for the city of London, and your talking points will blow people away.
00:37:13.000No other politician, I'm guessing, will be saying that you're going to take the poisons out of the schools, you're going to heal your kids, and here's how.
00:37:21.000See, that's the fun part we don't just make claims, we back it up with science and data.
00:37:29.000When you say things like this, people get caught off guard.
00:37:34.000When you say we're going to reduce the majority of crime and all of our prisons are going to turn into nurseries, all of our schools, all of our parks, and I'll just show you one thing here.
00:37:43.000So, this sugar cane right here, this was, I put this in the ground and I've done nothing since.
00:37:55.000I just let it, I let God do God's work.
00:38:08.000Can make a delicious healthy snack, by the way, if it's processed naturally, and it can be turned into fuel to run a generator.
00:38:19.000Jim, it seems like the solution is at the end of our arm.
00:38:23.000You know, a minute ago, you talked about Nikolai Tesla and vibration and frequency.
00:38:32.000These prayerful states that I've been entering into after times of compression, depression, and sometimes I feel like a kind of almost Evil entity attacks after they yield and abate by the holy name of Christ Jesus.
00:38:47.000I'm often granted extraordinary insights, one of which I'll share with you now.1.00
00:38:55.000While living my life a stubbed toe away from suicide for long periods of time, I sometimes, in the relief, get visions.
00:39:03.000One such was the sub molecular honeycomb cross.
00:39:08.000I saw that there is an interconnected, interdimensional mesh accessible to us internally, kind of like a net or mesh of honeycomb, i.e., like a naturally occurring geometrical shape.
00:39:22.000We don't get right angles in nature, but you do get the hexagon.
00:39:29.000And I saw that at the points of intersection up the spine, the chakras, as they're called in Vedic philosophy, if this submits to the cross, if you put the cross in there, which as a symbol, one might say, is the death of the flesh man, that the holy divine man might rise again, then you access new power.
00:39:58.000Is that in alignment with what you're saying about Tesla?
00:40:01.000That in reflection, repose, and meditation, you, like many yogis and sages and saints, if you're able to get out of the grid, the grid, the grid and prison of the mainstream dominator empire mentality, you may receive frequencies that give you insights.
00:40:28.000Sometimes I stub my toe too, and sometimes things don't go as planned.
00:40:32.000In fact, I actually don't have a plan, except for I have a high level plan.
00:40:36.000My plan is to do the best I can to be the change that I want to see in the world.
00:40:43.000And with all the faith and courage I can muster.
00:40:46.000And what happens when I stay peaceful, right?0.95
00:40:50.000Unlike when I first got on the call today, when I just ran all over the place to get the darn phones working.
00:40:57.000Unlike that, when I stay with a silent mind and I ask questions to the source of all knowledge, miraculous ideas come that all of the ideas that we're sharing have come from that gap between the thoughts.
00:41:15.000Hey, so as well as, you know, people might find it hard to believe because you're such an unusual and brilliant man, but that you, in a sense, were a conventional, successful guy with that mortgage company.
00:41:30.000I wonder what kind of life were you living then when you created that entity?
00:41:40.000Well, first of all, when I was living on a boat and I was getting large checks in the mail, I wasn't happy.
00:41:49.000And I was kind of confused because I thought, you know, when I first wrote my goals, I was broke and I'd traveled the world with a backpack.
00:42:36.000Now I'm living for much more for love.
00:42:40.000I'm really living for love and for all these other things that I consider good.
00:42:45.000Hey, remember, my book, How to Become Christian in Seven Days, is available now.
00:42:50.000This is my journey to Christ, a non institutionalized Christ, the free flowing, living water, Holy Jesus Christ that will give you the power to live your life.
00:42:59.000Click the link in the description and let me know what you think about the book.
00:43:02.000We're going to do some more content on it coming soon.
00:43:05.000And you can get the audiobook for free.
00:43:12.000We're not trying to make money anymore, we're trying to make change.
00:43:16.000Just the silence, you know, somebody said all a man's suffering comes from his inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
00:43:24.000If there's one thing that we can encourage people to do is put your feet on bare ground and sit quietly in the forest alone and ask questions.
00:43:36.000And when we ask questions and our mind goes to this place of stillness, the answers will blow our minds.
00:43:52.000We have about 300 different types of bees.
00:43:57.000Perennial food producers like guavas and avocados and everything you could probably name.
00:44:04.000And by the way, there's so many people that are pivotal in our world right now that are absolutely solution oriented, fundamental solutions like soil saviors, right?
00:44:16.000There's an entity called soilsaviors.org.
00:44:19.000Pat Militich was a UFC world champion.
00:44:21.000Then he was the best coach in the world.
00:44:23.000And now he's helping people heal soil, right?
00:44:27.000Ben Ellis is one of the best permaculture designers.
00:47:11.000And when I'm walking with those five gallon buckets, I often do lunges and stuff.
00:47:20.000Everybody, if you forget your gym membership and you start gardening, you'll be within three months, you'll never have felt better.
00:47:30.000What you're really proposing is a life of authenticity, integrity, and transparency, and a kind of end to the illusion that so many of us enter into craving something real, but trying to receive it through a broken lens.
00:47:47.000When I think about when I was a kid, I was pretty ambitious and I really wanted to, I think, be famous, and I was really motivated by.
00:47:54.000Want to sleep with lots of women and stuff.
00:47:58.000And that carousel, that hamster wheel, you can keep going on that for a long time, particularly if you have addictive tendencies.
00:48:06.000I'm like pretty naturally inclined towards addiction, as a matter of fact.
00:48:10.000So, like, I ended up taking a lot of drugs.
00:48:12.000And if I start doing anything really, I'll do it obsessively.
00:48:20.000I need to live like kind of like you, I reckon, where I have very clear, fixed goals.
00:48:26.000And objectives and freedom within it to be in, you know, you can explore the infinite in your own consciousness.
00:48:33.000I think it was Chester and that quote about a man's inability to sit in silence in a room, but I'm not 100% sure.
00:48:39.000But anyway, that's certainly what I need.
00:48:41.000I need the ability to interact and commune directly with God and then my relationships be informed by that.
00:48:49.000I was reading Romans this morning and for the last couple of days, the book of Romans, and it says, God's eternal, like, it says, like, the reason that people fell. Is because God's invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature were ignored, even though it's evident that he has eternal power and divine nature.
00:49:11.000And I began to think of the eternal power as being the vertical beam of the cross and the divine nature of being a horizontal beam.
00:49:19.000The way that we relate to one another must be loving and divine, and the eternal nature must be the receipt of this grace and this energy.
00:49:26.000And it must be earthed, it must be earthed as you are doing.
00:49:30.000And something there, very practical, like you said, you use the fish four times.
00:49:33.000The serenity and peace as you catch it, the joy of eating it, the making the water more fertile and fecund when you put it in, the burying of the corpse to make the soil more rich.
00:49:45.000You are sort of staying actually entirely within God.
00:50:15.000And like, I know that if we, you know, you can't just spend all your life decorating your prison cell, can you?
00:50:23.000You can't just go like, oh, I'll tell you what, I'll get a really big house.
00:50:26.000And I tried all sorts of ways of decorating my prison cell, like fill it up with attractive ladies, do what, you know, like all sorts of different things.
00:50:33.000But really, you're not free until you become who you are in God.
00:50:48.000This is my book that I wrote, How to Become Christian in Seven Days.
00:50:52.000And the more time I spend with Christ, Jim, the more I realize that there's a lot of people that know Christ well and really love Christ, and they do not like institution.
00:51:01.000They do not like anything that tries to make it.
00:51:04.000And now, this is what you're supposed to do.
00:51:06.000A lot of people whose journey with the Lord I respect are people that don't want power over anybody else.
00:51:18.000They recognize that you're kind of dead now.
00:51:21.000That Christ lives in you and that you're here to be his expression.
00:51:25.000And it's so clear to me that you recognize the significance of the garden and what we are in the garden, that that's the harmony that we have with nature.
00:51:37.000But amidst the garden, there is temptation.
00:51:40.000Amidst the system, there is the serpent.
00:51:44.000There is somewhere within our, there is a hack available in our nature for us to fall foul of evil.
00:51:52.000And I wonder when you consider that to have.
00:53:27.000And then I feel like I'm back to center again.1.00
00:53:30.000But the bottom line is, The most selfish thing we could do for our world is serve each other because the act of service, the act of stewardship, the act of service returns exponentially.
00:55:19.000So, water hyacinth will come in and it'll start exploding in growth.
00:55:24.000And all of the poison people say, See, you got to spray it.
00:55:27.000But here's the truth of the matter not only will it clean the lakes and rivers, but you can extract it when it does, and you can build soil and feed animals.
00:55:38.000And here's the kicker when a lake is clean or a river is clean, Then the water hyacinth doesn't have anything to eat and it will not grow.
00:59:42.000If it's microgreens on the counter in a condo, or if it's the first foot outside your back door, sweet potatoes, start with something simple.
00:59:52.000And the plants are the best teachers in the world.
01:00:34.000In addition to learning how to run communities free from these master imperial systems of control and decimation, we're talking to let's face it, eccentrics who are out there helping.
01:00:46.000Helping one another, bringing love and goodness to the world in a variety of eccentric and extraordinary ways.
01:00:51.000The first one is my friend Dean Anderson, who is driving a bus across America all the way to the famous Bill W. House.
01:00:58.000Bill W. is the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, the first of the 12 step programs that are responsible for saving so many lives, including mine.
01:01:06.000There's a variety of different 12 step programs for drug addicts, alcoholics, gamblers, people in debt, and people with food problems.
01:01:13.000These principles are great for bringing about revelation.
01:01:15.000And actually, in my book, How to Become Christian in Seven Days, I apply those 12-step principles to seven days of creation.
01:01:22.000There's a link in the description if you want the book.
01:01:26.000Here is my friend Dean right now explaining how you can win this extraordinary bus as well as help people that are suffering in this world.
01:02:09.000One is we're taking a bus from Montana, going through 12 different states and looking at the principles beneath the steps, not talking about the steps or any dogma, getting down to like the true facts about every step.
01:03:00.000Literature we have to support all this.
01:03:02.000But anyway, we're going to gift that to the Wilson House, and it is going to kick off a big $8 to $10 million raise.
01:03:08.000So we are part of something much larger than ourselves.
01:03:11.000It's really fantastic that you're doing that, Dean.
01:03:13.000A lot of us that got clean and sober through the 12 steps have a great fascination and, obviously, adulation for Bill W., even though it's an anonymous set of groups where we're not publicly permitted to declare what our affiliation is, whether it's to do with drinking or.
01:03:35.000And yeah, I always do my best to respect that.
01:03:37.000I haven't done it perfectly, of course.
01:03:39.000But the important thing is that you're both bringing the history of the 12 steps to public prominence, but also you're saying that you're kind of demonstrating what the idea behind the steps are.
01:03:52.000Can you give us what is like step one?
01:03:54.000I understand step one to be about powerlessness and unmanageability.
01:03:58.000I have to admit that I can't drink or take drugs ever again one day at a time.
01:04:03.000How do you, for example, demonstrate that step?
01:04:06.000Oh my God, this is my favorite part about it.
01:04:08.000So, we have taken the 12 principles and we're actually tying it to places, physical places across the United States.
01:04:16.000And you cannot get more Americana than that.
01:04:19.000The first place we're going to go, which is a matter of fact, my favorite stop, I think, of all 12 stops, is where General Custer had his ego, the 23 year old Brigadier General hero from the Civil War.
01:04:34.000This is where he was essentially annihilated physically, but more importantly, psychically annihilated.
01:04:40.000He was, you couldn't tell him anything.
01:04:44.000He wouldn't listen to any recommendations.
01:04:48.000He talked to himself, talked himself into making mistakes.
01:04:52.000So these characteristics that he has are really paralleled directly to the mind of an alcoholic or addict.
01:05:01.000So we're using this as an example to really portray a psychic death, you know, because it's the ego way out of balance.
01:05:12.000And the Custer's Land Stand is going to do it.
01:05:15.000So, we have this fella from the TP Trading Post who's going to jump on the moose bus with us, go there and go around the field and look at this is where he made this mistake.
01:06:17.000And you can't really talk about the bus, the moose bus, without the bunker.
01:06:22.000And uh, you know, I've been coming up with crazy.
01:06:27.000The bunker was one of 46 bunkers started by this church in Paradise Valley, Montana.
01:06:35.000And we're right on the Yellowstone, and it's this cement structure that we converted into a really cool home.
01:06:43.000Over six summers, we did this conversion, and prior to each summer, I would go out and pull some kids out of some bad places off the street or wherever there was.
01:06:53.000Addicts and alcoholics, we would take them through the steps.
01:06:55.000They would live with us for the summer.
01:07:21.000But we are in the bunker now, as you can see behind me.
01:07:26.000And See these big Fred Flintstone holes cut back there?
01:07:30.000That whole piece is essentially underground, five feet underground, because Pakistan was going to drop a bomb on India, this church believed in 1990.0.91
01:07:51.000You know, I'm probably one of the few people in the world that are right now that is cutting windows in his bunker for a better view.
01:07:59.000I tell you what, the tech billionaires aren't doing that, mate.
01:08:02.000They're doubling down on their bunkers all over the world.
01:08:05.000So your big drive and aim, Dean, is to create opportunities to heal addicts and alcoholics, to find low-bottom drunks and drug addicts, as we call it, like street sleepers, junkies, people that are falling apart, and give them a journey back to God through the principles of the 12 steps.
01:08:25.000And this moose bus journey, and the bus is being raffled, is kind of like a totem of the whole thing.
01:09:02.000When we put this out, we'll put a picture up of the bus and we'll put a link.
01:09:05.000In the description, if you want to win this bus, $100 a ticket, but seems like a pretty historic and peculiar vehicle.
01:09:11.000And we want to check in with you, Dean, every week to see where the bus is and what's going on.
01:09:18.000And if General Custer represents the narcissism and vanity that typifies the end of someone's drinking journey, I'm very interested to see how you do honesty and faith and service and all of the other principles that the 12 steps are built around in your fantastic country.
01:09:47.000And in the world of recovery, too, we are trying to use the bus as a sense of once you get on it, once you start being a seeker or moving toward solution and God, once you start reaching up into the universe, it'll reach back.
01:12:05.000Who wouldn't want to win a bus like that?
01:12:07.000And let us know if you have any endeavors that you would like us to support because we've got to build community together to overthrow this system of filthy corruption.