Stay Free - Russel Brand - How to Escape the System and Live Free - SF720

00:00:09.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:00:17.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:20.000 Today's guest is Jim Gale.

00:00:22.000 Here's some information about Jim Gale.

00:00:24.000 Jim Gale is an entrepreneur, permaculture advocate, and founder of Food Forest Abundance.

00:00:30.000 After building a successful mortgage company that reportedly generated over $1 billion in sales, a period of personal and financial upheaval led him to rethink.

00:00:40.000 Think what real security looked like.

00:00:43.000 Influenced by time spent in nature and studying regenerative systems, he shifted his focus toward permaculture and food sovereignty.

00:00:51.000 Now, through food forest abundance, he designs edible landscapes for homes, schools, and communities while promoting food security, self reliance, and regenerative living through projects like the Freedom Farm Academy.

00:01:05.000 I'm fascinated to talk to Jim because I'm interested in establishing new communities that are.

00:01:11.000 Off grid and are not controlled by centralized, hypocritical, corrupt forces, whether that's media, government, or commercial.

00:01:19.000 That's why now we're devoting our time to learning from people who can instruct us in running our own communities.

00:01:25.000 As part of my campaign to become Mayor of London in 2028, we'll be bringing to the forefront policies and ideas designed to make participatory democracy normal.

00:01:35.000 Referenda, like in Switzerland, where four times a year people vote on stuff that's important to them.

00:01:40.000 Well, why not have a London where you vote on the London that you want to live in?

00:01:44.000 And why not?

00:01:45.000 have those principles wherever you live.

00:01:47.000 The technology exists.

00:01:48.000 Indeed, permaculture is in part based on the idea that technology could be used to give you food freedom rather than have food centralized and controlled.

00:01:56.000 And while we're on that subject, why do you think there are agricultural protests all over the world right now?

00:02:02.000 Because centralized power is trying to co-opt control over food.

00:02:07.000 Eat the bugs.

00:02:08.000 Own nothing.

00:02:09.000 Be happy.

00:02:10.000 Well, not while Jim Gale has got a say in it.

00:02:14.000 Here's my conversation with Jim Gale.

00:02:18.000 Jim, thanks so much for joining us for the show.

00:02:21.000 Wow, thank you so much, Russell.

00:02:23.000 It's wonderful to be here, brother.

00:02:25.000 What are you looking at right now, mate?

00:02:26.000 Because we've started doing shows where we invite people on to tell us how we could create fully independent, autonomous communities where, if we wanted, we could be off grid.

00:02:38.000 What's the point in switching one corrupt politician for another corrupt politician, whether that's at a national level or a local level?

00:02:45.000 It's the system itself that needs to change.

00:02:48.000 And as long as people are dependent on a scarcity mindset, And come feed themselves or provide energy, we'll be enslaved to this corrupt system.

00:02:56.000 My understanding is, Jim, that you've found one of the key components for getting us out of this prison.

00:03:04.000 Russell, I am going to demonstrate and show you and your amazing audience right now the solution to all of the world's biggest problems it's stewardship, it's earth care and people care, it's taking care of the land, which when we take care of the land, a tiny investment in stewardship.

00:03:26.000 Will result in the most epic ROI.

00:03:29.000 It's God's ROI.

00:03:31.000 So, five, four, like three months ago, this system behind me was all brown.

00:03:39.000 We had a mega freeze, it was all dead.

00:03:42.000 And now it's a mega, it's an incredible food production system.

00:03:47.000 In this system, we have about 70 different types of perennial food producing plants.

00:03:54.000 And when we create mass adoption, when we create awareness that leads to mass adoption of stewardship, it's the only way that we are going to win this war.

00:04:06.000 And any plan that does not lead with stewardship, earth care, and people care is a lie.

00:04:15.000 I've noticed that Bill Gates is the most obvious example of billionaires that are acquiring land, acquiring in particular farmland.

00:04:24.000 I know, too that many.

00:04:26.000 people in positions to do so are bunkering up and acquiring remote properties.

00:04:32.000 And my strong sense is that by 2030 or around 2030, through successive crisis events, further authoritarianism will be leveraged on people of various countries, if not all countries.

00:04:46.000 And what I've been thinking, Jim, is that we need to create a confederacy of independent autonomous communities that are food independent and energy independent.

00:04:56.000 that use cryptocurrencies to Trade with one another and use information technology to communicate with one another, but each community is fully independent and fully autonomous.

00:05:06.000 Are you saying that through permaculture we could create food independence?

00:05:12.000 I'm not saying that we could, I'm demonstrating that we are.

00:05:17.000 Our family homestead right behind me is 100% off grid.

00:05:21.000 We are non compliant with government.

00:05:24.000 We built our family homestead without asking for permission.

00:05:28.000 We did not get permits.

00:05:30.000 I recognize the risk in this.

00:05:33.000 And two and a half years ago, a government agent came to my house and he demanded to see building permits.

00:05:40.000 And I walked up to him with my camera on and I shared with him that compliance with your agency will lead to the death of our world.

00:05:50.000 And he basically said, Show me the way.

00:05:55.000 And I did.

00:05:56.000 And he started crying.

00:05:57.000 He told me, Jim, I'm a pastor on the weekends.

00:06:01.000 And he left my house in tears.

00:06:04.000 He said, I will never bother you again.

00:06:06.000 And the government has never been back.

00:06:09.000 Jim, that's a really inspiring story, and I really hope that as a result of this appearance, you don't have a Waco style disaster on your hands.

00:06:17.000 Because one of my great teachers and mentors tells me that as soon as you make that assertion, government don't come in here, that's when it really, really starts.

00:06:27.000 As soon as you start to demonstrate, whether it's as like our mutual friend Joby Weeks, that Bitcoin can make you independently wealthy and presents a challenge to centralized finance, or whether in information technology you can communicate.

00:06:41.000 Off message information to large numbers of people, you become a kind of threat to this system.

00:06:48.000 But I'm going through a lot at the moment, and I can't talk directly about some of it because, you know, contempt of court laws and the potential of my bow being withdrawn.

00:06:56.000 But I'm very, very interested, Jim, in community. 0.98

00:07:00.000 I'm tired of the bullshit, man. 0.99

00:07:02.000 I'm tired of participating within their system. 0.99

00:07:05.000 I'm tired of like coming up with, oh, maybe if I do this or that, you know, I'm thinking about running for political office, specifically Mayor of London, but only so London can be a place of referenda.

00:07:16.000 Like Switzerland, where you'd say to the population, you don't really need a mayor.

00:07:20.000 You can vote on all of these issues.

00:07:22.000 Here is my suggestions and guidance.

00:07:23.000 We'll look at your polling data and we'll do what you tell us to do.

00:07:27.000 Like political systems should be administrative bureaucracies with no power at all, except for the power of consensus.

00:07:35.000 And we can't achieve that, can we, if they can just turn off taps and starve us and switch off our energy?

00:07:42.000 Brother, what I'm sharing with you is the idea whose time has come stronger than all of the armies of the world.

00:07:49.000 It's what Sun Tzu was referring to when he said, Know thyself, know thy enemy, a thousand battles, a thousand victories.

00:07:56.000 I've been on about a thousand podcasts and I have spoken very clearly.

00:08:01.000 I have publicly invited the sheriff and the tax collector and the mayor and the governor and the president to be stewards of our land.

00:08:09.000 If anything happens to me, it'll only further the cause.

00:08:14.000 So the only thing they can do to me is censor me.

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00:09:34.000 You've got the mad look in your eyes of a man who's willing to die for what he believes in.

00:09:38.000 I recognize it from the mirror.

00:09:40.000 Now, Jim, tell me, mate, how did you get yourself into that position?

00:09:46.000 Failure and desperation.

00:09:49.000 I started a mortgage company 30 years ago, did $1.3 billion in revenue.

00:09:55.000 Bought a boat, lived on the ocean, and then I learned that the world is controlled by some sort of evil.

00:10:01.000 And then I went through the process of awakening and I invested every penny I had into the solution until I wound up dead broke six years ago because of the narrative, the false narrative of COVID.

00:10:16.000 And I was desperate and I was not a man of full faith.

00:10:21.000 And I was weeping and I was walking and I was begging God for guidance.

00:10:26.000 And it hit me.

00:10:27.000 It hit me real good.

00:10:29.000 And I opened up my eyes and I could see clearly.

00:10:33.000 And ever since that day, the miracles have been absolutely epic.

00:10:38.000 Tell me about some of those miracles.

00:10:40.000 I'm interested in your conversion to faith.

00:10:42.000 I'm a new believer in Christ myself, and I reckon we'll get into that.

00:10:47.000 But tell me what happened and tell me about these miracles.

00:10:51.000 Well, we are living off grid in a homestead that's absolutely epic.

00:10:58.000 Failure and desperation got me here.

00:11:00.000 No money in the bank, but I've never felt wealthier in my life.

00:11:00.000 We have.

00:11:05.000 We are surrounded by all the food, water, and energy that we could need.

00:11:10.000 We are on a private 430 acre lake where we've got the only docks on the lake.

00:11:16.000 On the east side of our property is a mile long runway where world leaders will be flying in to learn about regeneration and freedom.

00:11:26.000 I am here to lead.

00:11:26.000 We are here.

00:11:27.000 I'm running for president of the fictitious.

00:11:31.000 Conceived in hell idea of government. 0.99

00:11:35.000 I am running for president to dismantle the whole fucking thing. 1.00

00:11:41.000 That's good, Jim. 0.99

00:11:43.000 Now, where do you think we are?

00:11:46.000 I'm having fun.

00:11:48.000 Good, good.

00:11:48.000 Good, man.

00:11:49.000 I think that.

00:11:50.000 Don't get too intense, Jim.

00:11:52.000 It scares people.

00:11:53.000 I'm speaking from experience, Jim.

00:11:59.000 You know, thank you, brother.

00:12:01.000 So many people.

00:12:03.000 Yeah.

00:12:04.000 No, carry on. 0.94

00:12:04.000 So many people have told me, Jim, you're going to get killed. 0.94

00:12:07.000 You're going to get whacked. 0.98

00:12:08.000 I'm like, you know what? 0.97

00:12:09.000 I'm contemplating that, but I've also contemplated my goal.

00:12:12.000 My goal is for our kids to have a future.

00:12:17.000 And right now, I'm hyper aware of the bee population collapse, the ecosystem.

00:12:22.000 The plankton, the mining, the extraction, the agenda that is playing out before our eyes.

00:12:28.000 I'm hyper aware that all of these distractions of government are simply taking our attention away from the fact that when we walk into the grocery store in the United States, it's poison.

00:12:44.000 And one in three kids in the United States have diabetes and they're suffering, right?

00:12:49.000 All else is a distraction from the war.

00:12:52.000 That's actually happening all around us.

00:12:55.000 And the solution to war is faith and courage and stewardship and service and transparency.

00:13:01.000 It's all well and good you saying that you can have a permaculture utopia there with your 400 acre lake.

00:13:07.000 What about normal people in towns and cities?

00:13:10.000 How can they meet their own food resources, Jim?

00:13:13.000 So, this is so beautiful.

00:13:15.000 Everybody can start growing food.

00:13:17.000 That's all the world needs mass adoption of awareness that leads to planting seeds.

00:13:23.000 If people have a condo, We're working with homeless people, giving them sweet potato starts, and they're creating sweet potato beds around their homeless encampments.

00:13:33.000 So there's nobody that can't grow food.

00:13:37.000 Everybody.

00:13:38.000 And by the way, we have created school reform models.

00:13:43.000 In fact, I met with Bobby Kennedy two and a half years ago, and I said, Bobby, the campaign strategy that I'm going to share with you now will not only win you a fair election, right?

00:13:54.000 We all know that it's not fair, but the campaign itself.

00:13:57.000 Will change the world.

00:13:59.000 And then he said, Oh, really?

00:14:01.000 Show me, tell me, what is it?

00:14:02.000 So I laid out four documents in front of him.

00:14:05.000 The first talking point is I will take the poisons out of our schools and our children will heal.

00:14:13.000 If this is the only thing we did, is turn every school into a nursery and we added the curriculum of regenerative agriculture or permaculture or stewardship, then every school, it would absolutely change the world in four years.

00:14:30.000 Same thing with prison reform, same thing with park and county land reform.

00:14:35.000 We literally have the answers to all of it.

00:14:38.000 And that's what the whole campaign platform, which is called stewardshipparty.org, is all about.

00:14:47.000 Click the link in the description at the bottom of the screen and it'll take you directly there.

00:14:51.000 Now, when I was a kid growing up, mate, we had allotments at the end of our street, meant that the houses, if they didn't have enough room, could grow food down there.

00:15:00.000 It used to be considered a normal thing.

00:15:01.000 And like my grandparents' generation and parents, that would have been.

00:15:04.000 Standard practice that you'd participate in the provision of your own food.

00:15:08.000 And of course, like mass centralized agriculture and big food benefit from us being absolutely dependent on very, very cheap salt and sugar loaded synthetic foods that ultimately maybe cause more harm than good.

00:15:23.000 And I wonder, Jim, if it would be possible for a city like London to meaningfully participate in a scheme to provide a significant amount of its own food.

00:15:37.000 Think about the climate in that place, you know, that cold, chilly old, grisly old, drizzly old place.

00:15:42.000 Would it be possible for London to be transformed?

00:15:45.000 Not only possible, it's not greenwashing.

00:15:49.000 It's not this sustainable WEF initiative.

00:15:53.000 It's fiscal infrastructure.

00:15:56.000 When we simply take the poisons out, and in fact, in America here, we have 50 million acres of lawn.

00:16:04.000 If we simply converted half of that into fruit trees and berry bushes with maybe some chickens running around, we would have enough food growing where the billion acres of Poisoned farmland would go back to nature because there'd be no use for it in a commercial sense.

00:16:24.000 Do you think that there's significant work done, both administratively and in terms of the conscious levels or conscience levels of the American population, to prevent those kind of ideas being popularized?

00:16:38.000 It is the fundamental deception of our world.

00:16:42.000 We are working with incredible organizations like the Church of Glad Tidings, where we're designing embassy gardens.

00:16:50.000 And we're integrating the schools into the practice so the students can learn how to grow food at school.

00:16:58.000 And so it's a matter not of new taxation or new force and violence and coercion of government.

00:17:05.000 It's a matter of tweaking the resources that we are already using and using them more wisely.

00:17:14.000 I mean, it's very exciting, mate.

00:17:16.000 Have you attempted to do it?

00:17:18.000 Have you implemented it?

00:17:19.000 Beyond your own residence, and two questions.

00:17:23.000 One, have you?

00:17:24.000 And also, are you meeting your energy needs?

00:17:27.000 Are you truly off grid there?

00:17:29.000 We're 100% off grid.

00:17:31.000 We still buy food at the store because I don't know how to cook yet, and I'm learning.

00:17:35.000 Almost every day, I eat fish and eggs and some fruit from the land.

00:17:40.000 We have now designed, there's an entity called foodforestabundance.com, and we have designed permaculture landscapes for people in 54 countries.

00:17:50.000 And every US state.

00:17:52.000 And design, creating the vision, casting the vision is the first step in the process.

00:17:59.000 I've also donated all of my assets to the stewardship of humanity.

00:18:04.000 My family homestead belongs to a trust, it's my family's property.

00:18:08.000 So I own nothing and I'm happy, but not the way Klaus Schwab speaks it.

00:18:13.000 Yeah, I like that idea.

00:18:16.000 I like the idea of returning to an identity that's not dependent on possessions, but on who you are.

00:18:24.000 In the living flow.

00:18:25.000 Hey, mate, so had you had these ideas prior to your religious experience?

00:18:31.000 Tell me how your religious experiences impacted and influenced all this.

00:18:37.000 My spiritual experiences were fundamental.

00:18:41.000 Without them, I would just be drinking on the curb somewhere or doing whatever.

00:18:47.000 I'd probably be still a mortgage guy, right?

00:18:49.000 Mortgage means death pledge.

00:18:52.000 My awakening through.

00:18:55.000 Intention and trauma, and a lot of meditation and prayer.

00:19:02.000 It's in layers.

00:19:03.000 It's like peeling away the layers of an onion, right?

00:19:05.000 Sometimes that comes with tears.

00:19:08.000 And the awakening process, I feel like I'm at a place now where most of the time I can sit quietly here and my head is completely silent.

00:19:20.000 I can, like Tesla said, if you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration.

00:19:26.000 But the word think is misplaced.

00:19:28.000 If you want to truly experience the secrets of God, Spirit, Christ consciousness, then feel the frequency, the energy, and the vibration and ask questions.

00:19:39.000 And when we ask GI for questions, GI has the best answers.

00:19:45.000 I've been going through this process that I'm calling peristalsis.

00:19:48.000 You know, like I'm going through this kind of crushing and then release, crushing and then release, crushing and then release.

00:19:55.000 In the periods of feeling like crushed, it gets so close to.

00:19:59.000 It's so painful, Jim, that I just feel like I can't survive it.

00:20:03.000 And then it releases and always accompanied with interesting insight.

00:20:09.000 I came up with this phrase that I know you're going to love blockchain Amish, that we should become the blockchain Amish, fully independent communities, but that we do use technology in order to trade and to.

00:20:22.000 But like the community itself, whatever ideology the community has is up to the community.

00:20:27.000 You could have an LGBTQ community if you wanted, Muslim, Christian.

00:20:31.000 It's not anyone else's business.

00:20:33.000 You would have.

00:20:34.000 True individuality, true variety and diversity, not superficial diversity while under the surface homogeneity and total centralized control rules actually make every community independent in every single way possible.

00:20:52.000 Diversity is the foundation of strength of our system in permaculture and of humanity.

00:20:59.000 So, what I my foreign policy is very simple it is to talk to the people.

00:21:05.000 And to share knowledge, to share information, and to share seeds.

00:21:09.000 Because when we can help the people, the Muslims and the Jews and the Christians and all the different groups come together around one thing, tikkum olam in Jewish means, in Hebrew, means stewardship, right?

00:21:23.000 And there's a Muslim word for stewardship.

00:21:25.000 All communities around the world have a word for earth care and people care.

00:21:30.000 And that's the binding element that stops all the wars.

00:21:35.000 When we share information, and by the way, this idea of free energy and blockchain if we took 35% of the crypto market cap and we put it into food forestry, we would have 100 million dollar food forest nurseries in every single city in the world.

00:21:59.000 So, how and right, okay, so what you're talking about firstly, generate the revenue through the 30% market cap of crypto.

00:22:07.000 Then have a global initiative that would have to be decentralized and locally organized to implement forestry.

00:22:17.000 What's the term that you use?

00:22:21.000 Food forest.

00:22:23.000 What does that mean?

00:22:25.000 Like the Garden of Eden.

00:22:26.000 It's like imagine that you're in the Garden of Eden, and most everybody has a Garden of Eden narrative in their history.

00:22:33.000 So imagine that you're sitting there.

00:22:35.000 What would you like to see?

00:22:38.000 I'm looking at two different kinds of sugarcane and comfrey and aloe and mint and guavas and grapes and passion fruit.

00:22:44.000 And I could go on and on.

00:22:46.000 That's what this is meant to be.

00:22:48.000 And every zone has their plants.

00:22:51.000 Every zone can do this, right?

00:22:53.000 It's, you know, polar ice caps and tundra are a lot harder.

00:22:57.000 I don't know why people live there, but they eat a lot of seals up there.

00:23:01.000 My point is, this can be done everywhere in the world.

00:23:05.000 And it's a matter of creating the awareness.

00:23:08.000 And Russell, that's why I'm so thankful to be on your show.

00:23:10.000 I've sent.

00:23:11.000 Several videos to you because I love your work for years now.

00:23:15.000 And this is absolutely an amazing day for me because this message is going to catalyze a shift in awareness that leads to thousands, if not millions, of people becoming stewards again and planting seeds.

00:23:31.000 How does the technology help us to overcome the conditions that prevent growth?

00:23:37.000 Because if you think about it, and I know that you do because you're an absolute lunatic, plainly, is that agriculture, while it met a lot of food needs, what it actually did is it centralized power and it reduced.

00:23:49.000 Diet. 0.95

00:23:50.000 That's why people end up eating rice or potatoes or some crap like that.

00:23:53.000 You don't eat varied food no more.

00:23:56.000 Now, of course, it solved a lot of starvation issues, but what you're suggesting with your garden or forest model is a kind of abundant hunter-gatherer model, in a sense, that you're living in abundance but with variety.

00:24:11.000 But you've already said that not every environment affords the same type of soil.

00:24:15.000 I'm always hearing the crop, there's only one more harvest left in the crop.

00:24:20.000 I'm always hearing things like that in Europe.

00:24:21.000 They're always saying stuff like that.

00:24:22.000 And the farmers, In every country across the world, by the way, are in crisis, whether it's Sri Lanka or the UK or Germany.

00:24:28.000 They're all getting top down edicts.

00:24:30.000 They can't use this fertilizer. 0.89

00:24:31.000 They can't use that.

00:24:32.000 They're getting destroyed.

00:24:33.000 They're protesting in France.

00:24:34.000 They're protesting in my country.

00:24:36.000 They're protesting everywhere.

00:24:37.000 So tell me, first of all, I mean, I obviously know why that is.

00:24:40.000 It's because centralized interests are trying to control the food sources and they're trying to shut down farms as a way of doing that. 0.72

00:24:46.000 It's absolutely ridiculous, really.

00:24:48.000 But how, in a place like where I live now, I live in the panhandle gym.

00:24:52.000 I'm not that far from you, I don't suppose, mate.

00:24:54.000 Like I'm up there, you know, around Destin, Panama City, and all that.

00:24:58.000 So, here the land is very, very dry.

00:25:01.000 I do know some people doing some farming and stuff like that.

00:25:04.000 What type of technology is being used to ensure that 365 you can meet the food, a community's food needs?

00:25:13.000 Yeah, so two answers to two different questions there.

00:25:16.000 Henry Kissinger in 1974, as the head of the Council on Foreign Relations, the guy who appointed Klaus Schwab and met with every U.S. president, said, if you want to control nations, control energy.

00:25:27.000 If you want to control.

00:25:29.000 People control food. 0.98

00:25:31.000 And so, what we have right now is the black rocking, right?

00:25:35.000 Black rock is not only the name, it is the intention, right?

00:25:38.000 By their deeds, you shall know them.

00:25:40.000 And I heard you say that many times.

00:25:43.000 And so, the first step is to be aware that this whole thing is an agenda.

00:25:47.000 And what I've come to believe is this is what started with the original fear, the original seed of fear planted in the Garden of Eden, which is planted in all of our minds through our stories, right?

00:26:00.000 His story is a complete fabrication.

00:26:03.000 It's a complete lie.

00:26:05.000 It's time to write our story now.

00:26:07.000 And so I am being the change that I want to see in the world on every conceivable level because there's nothing else that makes sense.

00:26:14.000 We cannot hold fear and faith in the same body.

00:26:18.000 So I'm choosing faith because I can't choose anything else anymore.

00:26:22.000 Speaking of choosing stuff, you can choose to bet on so many different things on Polymarket.

00:26:27.000 It's hard to keep up.

00:26:28.000 When will the United States confirm that aliens are real?

00:26:32.000 Even if they do, it's probably just a distraction.

00:26:35.000 2026 FIFA World Cup winner.

00:26:37.000 I'm England all the way, but I don't see how they're above Brazil. 1.00

00:26:40.000 Anyway, get on over to Poly Market and bet on anything, you crazy fools. 0.98

00:26:44.000 Tell me about the technology, mate, to make food grow in dry land. 0.99

00:26:47.000 Tell me about it.

00:26:49.000 So it's called permaculture.

00:26:51.000 First of all, catch and store water, right?

00:26:55.000 That is in dry places, it's more relevant than anywhere.

00:26:58.000 So, how do you do that?

00:26:59.000 You create swales, which are ditches on contour, and you fill them with biomass.

00:27:05.000 Right now, they're greening areas of deserts across Africa by digging ditches like half moon shaped ditches and then filling them up with seeds of hardy plants and biomass.

00:27:17.000 So, if it rains once every three years, the rain soaks in and now they have a green wall being built.

00:27:25.000 And this is done in every climate.

00:27:27.000 Here, I've got an illegal septic system, and I've told the EPA, I cannot comply with you because compliance to your system means death.

00:27:37.000 Right, as they spray us and poison us at every level, and they're not bothering me because bothering me would be bad for them because of how outspoken I am and the fact that I'm right. 0.98

00:27:49.000 And so, my septic system creates the environment using a living microbiome for rapid decomposition of shit. 0.96

00:27:58.000 And then, this whole system behind me is fertilized by our family's septic. 0.99

00:28:04.000 That's so cool.

00:28:06.000 I once went to the Hare Krishna's place in Mumbai.

00:28:10.000 Or just about an hour outside of Mumbai in India, that was fully food independent and they were growing everything that they were eating.

00:28:18.000 They were looking after their livestock.

00:28:20.000 They were vegetarian, of course, the Hare Krishnas, and I was vegan back then. 1.00

00:28:25.000 One thing I do remember is I couldn't get a good cup of coffee out of those people. 0.99

00:28:29.000 They won't drink tea and coffee, those Krishnas, but you can't impose that on everybody. 1.00

00:28:34.000 So, what you're saying is that if you focus, actually, if you return the individual and community focus to basic ideas like Provision of food and shelter using modern technologies that are always marshaled towards centralization and the implementation of control rather than the facilitation of freedom, then we could actually live a very different kind of life, a life that's more connected, connected to the stewardship of land and communication with one another.

00:29:03.000 And you've achieved it yourself and you're participating in projects elsewhere.

00:29:07.000 How is it, can you tell me, that you became friends with the fugitive, longest house arrest?

00:29:14.000 Prisoner in American history, Joby Weeks, Bitcoin entrepreneur, friend of the show and guest.

00:29:20.000 How did you become friends with him?

00:29:23.000 So he heard about what we were doing and he came here and he spent time here on several occasions and we had a blast.

00:29:32.000 That fellow, he is a hoot to hang around.

00:29:35.000 And we talked about solutions.

00:29:37.000 He wrote a document probably over a decade ago now that lays out solutions.

00:29:44.000 We have written lots of documents that lay out solutions.

00:29:47.000 Now, our job is to get awareness on these solutions, and they include decentralized money.

00:29:54.000 One of the things that I talked to Joby about is we need to have a digital asset that is actually backed by regenerative works.

00:30:04.000 I don't know exactly how that will work, but then we can have an asset that's literally born in abundance as an asset instead of born as a liability or a debt.

00:30:14.000 So, Joby is fantastic.

00:30:16.000 Yeah, I love that guy.

00:30:17.000 And it's very encouraging for me to hear that.

00:30:20.000 Across the world, a bit like Elijah, you think you're the only person suffering, the only person going through this stuff.

00:30:27.000 But everywhere, there are people that have got their own connection with God that are working on receiving the information in their own way, whether it's through the provision of food, solving the problem of finance and trade.

00:30:41.000 When there are centralized institutions that want to control money through inflation and have the ability to switch off your ability to trade and communicate at will, it's very encouraging for me.

00:30:53.000 There's a few things I want to ask you about directly, Jim.

00:30:56.000 If I run for mayor of London, is it possible to say that we will implement projects to make London food independent?

00:31:09.000 How far could you go in a modern city with a modest mandate?

00:31:17.000 So, first of all, mandates, anything that is coercive and backed up by force and violence, we're going into a new time where voluntarism, this idea of doing what's best for me, Is also what's best for you, right?

00:31:33.000 The permaculture ethics are earth care, people care, and reinvesting our surplus to earth care and people care, which is why I've donated all my assets to the foundation.

00:31:44.000 Um, so this platform, stewardshipparty.org, is going to have all the assets, all the strategies, all the techniques to reform HOAs, to reform retail, to reform schooling and prisons and all of the systems.

00:31:59.000 Because here's the fun part they're already proven.

00:32:03.000 There's no, I don't get any arguments about this.

00:32:06.000 I get ignored often because, like you said, I can be a raging lunatic from time to time.

00:32:12.000 But nobody argues with me because when people argue in a public forum, they get the shit beat out of them because we're right and we can prove that we're right and science proves that we're right. 0.85

00:32:26.000 For instance, one study on prisons the recidivism rate in a prison in California that implemented gardening in prison went from 67% to 10%.

00:32:37.000 Right, that's what I'm sharing is literally a strategy that will end the majority of crime.

00:32:45.000 Why do you think that was?

00:32:47.000 Why do you think having farming programs in a jail would prevent repeat offending?

00:32:55.000 That's such a great question.

00:32:57.000 So, you know, for 19 years since I started waking up, I hired other people to do my gardening because I thought I had more important stuff to do on my birthday on Christmas Eve.

00:33:11.000 I put down the phone and I went into the garden and I started becoming the steward that I was meant to be on my, like, that was my salvation.

00:33:21.000 I've never felt healthier.

00:33:23.000 I've never felt more alive.

00:33:25.000 I'm 56 years old and I just did 30 pull ups.

00:33:27.000 Like, it's just incredible what happens when we connect again to God's design, to Mother Earth.

00:33:36.000 The healing, I'm looking at just walking barefoot on the ground will actually help us release these.

00:33:44.000 Energy systems that are stuck in our bodies that are toxic to us.

00:33:48.000 So, the act of stewardship is our salvation.

00:33:53.000 So, you're right about that, actually.

00:33:54.000 So, like, you don't have a mandate in London.

00:33:57.000 What you do is when campaigning for mayor, you'd say one of our policies will be initiatives to grow food, to make London food independent, so that you're not so dependent.

00:34:09.000 If you vote for it, we'll do it.

00:34:11.000 It will create jobs because people, you can work.

00:34:14.000 On your own food sources, but also we can have initiatives London wide to turn these parts of these parks and these public spaces into food and to permaculture.

00:34:26.000 And what do you call it?

00:34:27.000 You like to call it forest abundance.

00:34:30.000 You would call it food forest.

00:34:31.000 You would create food forest in those areas.

00:34:36.000 So here's a tactic for you that is, yeah, absolutely.

00:34:41.000 And here's a tactic that will absolutely change the landscape.

00:34:44.000 So I went to this class learning how to be a campaigner.

00:34:48.000 And one of the line items was yard signs.

00:34:50.000 Yard signs here cost $4.20 each, and they're an absolute travesty. 0.67

00:34:56.000 They're ugly and they're a waste. 0.99

00:34:57.000 They go into the trash. 1.00

00:34:59.000 So here's what we do.

00:35:00.000 And we've done this, and it's mind boggling how effective it is.

00:35:03.000 We go door to door, and instead of having yard signs, we have sweet potato starts or plant seeds or tomato seeds or something alive.

00:35:13.000 And we say, Hey, the food supply chain is in trouble.

00:35:18.000 And so I've got extra food, and I just wanted to knock on your door.

00:35:22.000 I'm a neighbor here, and I wanted to give you this sweet potato start.

00:35:27.000 100% of people who first looked at me like, what are you doing here?

00:35:31.000 100% of them were giving me a high five or a hug when I left the door.

00:35:38.000 I like that you're very positive and optimistic.

00:35:41.000 A lot of times when I hear people talk about ecology, it has an apocalyptic kind of tone to it.

00:35:49.000 Think of like the ecological movements as typified and in a way represented by.

00:35:57.000 Greta Thunberg, who I think is a heroic young person, actually, and very brilliant and very brave and has great fortitude.

00:36:04.000 But there's a sort of a sense of doom and also trying to implement change through centralized bureaucracies that primarily exist in order to ensure that those aims are never met because they, by nature, require centralized control.

00:36:20.000 So, how are you maintaining that optimism?

00:36:24.000 And what do you think is the most important thing for us to understand, Jim?

00:36:27.000 What things can we propose and suggest?

00:36:30.000 That we can start doing right now.

00:36:32.000 You know, like I like that, your sweet potato startup thing as a part of our campaign.

00:36:36.000 I like the idea that one of the initiatives I can push when running for Mayor of London is food independence and labour generation and focusing on things that we all share, like, as you said, stewardship, that we don't need to spend all our time arguing about who's Muslim and who's gay and who's a Jew and who's Christian and whatnot.

00:36:52.000 We can all just work together on the provision of food and, in a sense, cleansing our city of corporate and commercial external control.

00:37:02.000 Absolutely.

00:37:03.000 And we will actually write a campaign strategy for you, for the city of London, and your talking points will blow people away.

00:37:13.000 No other politician, I'm guessing, will be saying that you're going to take the poisons out of the schools, you're going to heal your kids, and here's how.

00:37:21.000 See, that's the fun part we don't just make claims, we back it up with science and data.

00:37:27.000 And the other part is it's intuitive.

00:37:29.000 When you say things like this, people get caught off guard.

00:37:34.000 When you say we're going to reduce the majority of crime and all of our prisons are going to turn into nurseries, all of our schools, all of our parks, and I'll just show you one thing here.

00:37:43.000 So, this sugar cane right here, this was, I put this in the ground and I've done nothing since.

00:37:55.000 I just let it, I let God do God's work.

00:37:55.000 All right.

00:37:58.000 And now this is a free energy system.

00:38:01.000 So, I put it in the ground.

00:38:02.000 It was as thick as my thumb.

00:38:04.000 And now it's growing by hundreds of times.

00:38:07.000 That sugar cane.

00:38:08.000 Can make a delicious healthy snack, by the way, if it's processed naturally, and it can be turned into fuel to run a generator.

00:38:19.000 Jim, it seems like the solution is at the end of our arm.

00:38:23.000 You know, a minute ago, you talked about Nikolai Tesla and vibration and frequency.

00:38:32.000 These prayerful states that I've been entering into after times of compression, depression, and sometimes I feel like a kind of almost Evil entity attacks after they yield and abate by the holy name of Christ Jesus.

00:38:47.000 I'm often granted extraordinary insights, one of which I'll share with you now. 1.00

00:38:53.000 Seem to like blockchain Amish.

00:38:55.000 While living my life a stubbed toe away from suicide for long periods of time, I sometimes, in the relief, get visions.

00:39:03.000 One such was the sub molecular honeycomb cross.

00:39:08.000 I saw that there is an interconnected, interdimensional mesh accessible to us internally, kind of like a net or mesh of honeycomb, i.e., like a naturally occurring geometrical shape.

00:39:22.000 We don't get right angles in nature, but you do get the hexagon.

00:39:26.000 For example, in Honeycomb.

00:39:29.000 And I saw that at the points of intersection up the spine, the chakras, as they're called in Vedic philosophy, if this submits to the cross, if you put the cross in there, which as a symbol, one might say, is the death of the flesh man, that the holy divine man might rise again, then you access new power.

00:39:56.000 You access new power.

00:39:58.000 Is that in alignment with what you're saying about Tesla?

00:40:01.000 That in reflection, repose, and meditation, you, like many yogis and sages and saints, if you're able to get out of the grid, the grid, the grid and prison of the mainstream dominator empire mentality, you may receive frequencies that give you insights.

00:40:19.000 Do you agree with that?

00:40:20.000 And what's your experience of that?

00:40:23.000 I experience it often.

00:40:27.000 Not all the time.

00:40:28.000 Sometimes I stub my toe too, and sometimes things don't go as planned.

00:40:32.000 In fact, I actually don't have a plan, except for I have a high level plan.

00:40:36.000 My plan is to do the best I can to be the change that I want to see in the world.

00:40:43.000 And with all the faith and courage I can muster.

00:40:46.000 And what happens when I stay peaceful, right? 0.95

00:40:50.000 Unlike when I first got on the call today, when I just ran all over the place to get the darn phones working.

00:40:57.000 Unlike that, when I stay with a silent mind and I ask questions to the source of all knowledge, miraculous ideas come that all of the ideas that we're sharing have come from that gap between the thoughts.

00:41:15.000 Hey, so as well as, you know, people might find it hard to believe because you're such an unusual and brilliant man, but that you, in a sense, were a conventional, successful guy with that mortgage company.

00:41:30.000 I wonder what kind of life were you living then when you created that entity?

00:41:36.000 And what changed?

00:41:39.000 Awareness.

00:41:40.000 Well, first of all, when I was living on a boat and I was getting large checks in the mail, I wasn't happy.

00:41:49.000 And I was kind of confused because I thought, you know, when I first wrote my goals, I was broke and I'd traveled the world with a backpack.

00:42:00.000 So, when I was broke, I wanted money.

00:42:02.000 I was 29 years old.

00:42:03.000 I was a bartender and a bar manager in Hawaii for four years.

00:42:07.000 And I'm like, I want money.

00:42:08.000 Money will fix all my problems.

00:42:10.000 Well, you know how that goes.

00:42:11.000 No, it doesn't.

00:42:13.000 And then at the same time as I started waking up to that fact, I started learning what was going on in the world.

00:42:21.000 And I went into a period of scarcity because I have four daughters, and they have radically changed how I see the future.

00:42:31.000 Right, I used to be living for me, and what am I going to do today?

00:42:34.000 What am I going to do tomorrow?

00:42:36.000 Now I'm living for much more for love.

00:42:40.000 I'm really living for love and for all these other things that I consider good.

00:42:45.000 Hey, remember, my book, How to Become Christian in Seven Days, is available now.

00:42:50.000 This is my journey to Christ, a non institutionalized Christ, the free flowing, living water, Holy Jesus Christ that will give you the power to live your life.

00:42:59.000 Click the link in the description and let me know what you think about the book.

00:43:02.000 We're going to do some more content on it coming soon.

00:43:05.000 And you can get the audiobook for free.

00:43:08.000 Click the link in the description.

00:43:10.000 The audiobook is yours for nothing.

00:43:12.000 We're not trying to make money anymore, we're trying to make change.

00:43:16.000 Just the silence, you know, somebody said all a man's suffering comes from his inability to sit quietly in a room alone.

00:43:24.000 If there's one thing that we can encourage people to do is put your feet on bare ground and sit quietly in the forest alone and ask questions.

00:43:36.000 And when we ask questions and our mind goes to this place of stillness, the answers will blow our minds.

00:43:45.000 It's beautiful.

00:43:46.000 Hey, have you got bees there on your compound?

00:43:50.000 Yes, we have beehives.

00:43:52.000 We have about 300 different types of bees.

00:43:57.000 Perennial food producers like guavas and avocados and everything you could probably name.

00:44:04.000 And by the way, there's so many people that are pivotal in our world right now that are absolutely solution oriented, fundamental solutions like soil saviors, right?

00:44:16.000 There's an entity called soilsaviors.org.

00:44:19.000 Pat Militich was a UFC world champion.

00:44:21.000 Then he was the best coach in the world.

00:44:23.000 And now he's helping people heal soil, right?

00:44:27.000 Ben Ellis is one of the best permaculture designers.

00:44:30.000 He's Jeff Lawton's partner.

00:44:31.000 He's epic.

00:44:33.000 And he's got a bioregen plan that can go local and it integrates all the elements of that local area and it ties them all together.

00:44:47.000 It integrates rather than segregates.

00:44:50.000 And it is all about creating abundance at home, right?

00:44:55.000 Somebody said, Jim, you're so fortunate to have food security.

00:44:59.000 I'm like, no, I don't quite have food security.

00:45:01.000 We won't have food security until our neighbors' kids have access to food.

00:45:07.000 Mate, what's going on with wrestling?

00:45:09.000 You were a four times wrestling champ.

00:45:11.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:12.000 Yeah.

00:45:13.000 You know, back in the day, I was an All American, inducted into the Hall of Fame.

00:45:16.000 I wrote my goals as a failure.

00:45:19.000 I had failed the previous three years.

00:45:21.000 And there's something about setting an intention.

00:45:25.000 And people laughed at me.

00:45:27.000 They said, Jim, there's no way you'll ever be a.

00:45:30.000 You know, a national champion.

00:45:31.000 Anyway, four years later, I was a four time All American and national champion.

00:45:35.000 What kind of wrestling were you doing?

00:45:39.000 Collegiate.

00:45:42.000 So, what about you still got that in you?

00:45:43.000 You just said you've done 30 pull ups.

00:45:45.000 Do you think that your wrestling would be good against Brazilian Jiu Jitsu?

00:45:52.000 You know, the first time I went through, I went against a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu guy.

00:45:59.000 He was skinnier than me.

00:46:01.000 And he was, you know, I just thought this is going to be silly because I was pretty tough.

00:46:06.000 And he's twisted my arm in a knot, and I immediately got respect for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

00:46:14.000 It's a powerful thing, especially if you don't know it.

00:46:17.000 Yeah, if you don't know it, it's really, really powerful.

00:46:22.000 But then one time, I do Jiu Jitsu, and I did it against this guy, right? 0.89

00:46:26.000 And he was a white belt, but he was pretty tough, this guy. 0.73

00:46:29.000 And plus, he had a wrestling background.

00:46:30.000 He got pinned one of my arms underneath my body.

00:46:33.000 Got on top of me, and the rest is history.

00:46:36.000 We're married now, me and that guy.

00:46:37.000 No, like, no, he was my friend Luke.

00:46:39.000 He was a pretty tough person.

00:46:41.000 But it is interesting.

00:46:43.000 Do you still do a lot of physical stuff, mate?

00:46:46.000 I garden.

00:46:48.000 Like, I don't ever go to the gym anymore.

00:46:49.000 I walk around, I've got these five gallon buckets here.

00:46:52.000 And when I go fishing, I use the fish four times.

00:46:57.000 I love the peacefulness of fishing.

00:47:00.000 I then eat the fish.

00:47:01.000 I then put the fish in the buckets and let the water get fishy.

00:47:05.000 I pour the water on the plants and then I bury the carcasses.

00:47:09.000 So it's this complete cycle.

00:47:11.000 And when I'm walking with those five gallon buckets, I often do lunges and stuff.

00:47:20.000 Everybody, if you forget your gym membership and you start gardening, you'll be within three months, you'll never have felt better.

00:47:30.000 What you're really proposing is a life of authenticity, integrity, and transparency, and a kind of end to the illusion that so many of us enter into craving something real, but trying to receive it through a broken lens.

00:47:47.000 When I think about when I was a kid, I was pretty ambitious and I really wanted to, I think, be famous, and I was really motivated by.

00:47:54.000 Want to sleep with lots of women and stuff.

00:47:58.000 And that carousel, that hamster wheel, you can keep going on that for a long time, particularly if you have addictive tendencies.

00:48:06.000 I'm like pretty naturally inclined towards addiction, as a matter of fact.

00:48:10.000 So, like, I ended up taking a lot of drugs.

00:48:12.000 And if I start doing anything really, I'll do it obsessively.

00:48:17.000 I need to live kind of monastically.

00:48:20.000 I need to live like kind of like you, I reckon, where I have very clear, fixed goals.

00:48:26.000 And objectives and freedom within it to be in, you know, you can explore the infinite in your own consciousness.

00:48:33.000 I think it was Chester and that quote about a man's inability to sit in silence in a room, but I'm not 100% sure.

00:48:39.000 But anyway, that's certainly what I need.

00:48:41.000 I need the ability to interact and commune directly with God and then my relationships be informed by that.

00:48:49.000 I was reading Romans this morning and for the last couple of days, the book of Romans, and it says, God's eternal, like, it says, like, the reason that people fell. Is because God's invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature were ignored, even though it's evident that he has eternal power and divine nature.

00:49:11.000 And I began to think of the eternal power as being the vertical beam of the cross and the divine nature of being a horizontal beam.

00:49:19.000 The way that we relate to one another must be loving and divine, and the eternal nature must be the receipt of this grace and this energy.

00:49:26.000 And it must be earthed, it must be earthed as you are doing.

00:49:30.000 And something there, very practical, like you said, you use the fish four times.

00:49:33.000 The serenity and peace as you catch it, the joy of eating it, the making the water more fertile and fecund when you put it in, the burying of the corpse to make the soil more rich.

00:49:45.000 You are sort of staying actually entirely within God.

00:49:49.000 You're not ever moving into sin.

00:49:51.000 I've got a friend a bit like you, my friend Kyle Veer.

00:49:54.000 This dude is an ex PJ from Special Forces.

00:49:56.000 He left the army during COVID.

00:49:58.000 You'll be able to work out why.

00:49:59.000 And like, or military rather, during COVID.

00:50:01.000 And like this guy, he knows how to, you know, treat wounds.

00:50:05.000 He keeps.

00:50:06.000 Bees, he spearfishes this dude, you know, he stays out of it.

00:50:10.000 He stays out of the system.

00:50:12.000 It's pretty amazing to be around him.

00:50:15.000 And like, I know that if we, you know, you can't just spend all your life decorating your prison cell, can you?

00:50:23.000 You can't just go like, oh, I'll tell you what, I'll get a really big house.

00:50:26.000 And I tried all sorts of ways of decorating my prison cell, like fill it up with attractive ladies, do what, you know, like all sorts of different things.

00:50:33.000 But really, you're not free until you become who you are in God.

00:50:38.000 Until you become who you are in God.

00:50:40.000 You are who you are.

00:50:41.000 That is what the concept of sin is to me.

00:50:44.000 That you are owned.

00:50:45.000 The system owns you, it's captured you.

00:50:47.000 Hey, I'm going to send you this.

00:50:48.000 This is my book that I wrote, How to Become Christian in Seven Days.

00:50:52.000 And the more time I spend with Christ, Jim, the more I realize that there's a lot of people that know Christ well and really love Christ, and they do not like institution.

00:51:01.000 They do not like anything that tries to make it.

00:51:04.000 And now, this is what you're supposed to do.

00:51:06.000 A lot of people whose journey with the Lord I respect are people that don't want power over anybody else.

00:51:15.000 They want to receive Christ's grace.

00:51:18.000 They recognize that you're kind of dead now.

00:51:21.000 That Christ lives in you and that you're here to be his expression.

00:51:25.000 And it's so clear to me that you recognize the significance of the garden and what we are in the garden, that that's the harmony that we have with nature.

00:51:37.000 But amidst the garden, there is temptation.

00:51:40.000 Amidst the system, there is the serpent.

00:51:44.000 There is somewhere within our, there is a hack available in our nature for us to fall foul of evil.

00:51:52.000 And I wonder when you consider that to have.

00:51:55.000 Been in your life.

00:51:55.000 In my own life, I know that I was able to somehow be retuned to total selfishness.

00:52:03.000 That's still the problem I have, is that I can get sort of tuned into selfishness through fear and desire.

00:52:09.000 The desire side is getting controlled because, like you, I've got two daughters and a son and a wife that I'm really in love with.

00:52:18.000 And those things kind of like they crack it open, don't they, after a little while.

00:52:24.000 But I still, if I get scared, It makes me so selfish.

00:52:30.000 What about you?

00:52:30.000 Do you have that?

00:52:33.000 I have come around to the internal experience that the most selfish thing that I can do is serve you, humanity, and the land.

00:52:45.000 And so I've reframed the idea of selfishness.

00:52:48.000 As long as everybody is winning, as long as I'm doing no harm and helping and have this intention of service, then service.

00:52:59.000 It's selfishly serving, is a term that I've used a couple of times.

00:53:04.000 And it's the ultimate freedom because I, and by the way, I slip once in a while.

00:53:11.000 And when I do, I know it.

00:53:13.000 I've trained myself to check myself. 0.97

00:53:16.000 You know, literally, like earlier on this call, I was running around like a madman trying to get the darn phone to work. 0.93

00:53:21.000 And I was in a moment of scarcity. 0.94

00:53:24.000 I can't miss this interview. 1.00

00:53:25.000 Oh, shit, you know. 0.99

00:53:27.000 And then I feel like I'm back to center again. 1.00

00:53:30.000 But the bottom line is, The most selfish thing we could do for our world is serve each other because the act of service, the act of stewardship, the act of service returns exponentially.

00:53:44.000 Jim, show us around a bit then.

00:53:46.000 Like, show us some stuff.

00:53:47.000 Yes.

00:53:49.000 All right.

00:53:50.000 So, this is a brand new, I dug, I hand dug this pond.

00:53:54.000 There's a series of four ponds.

00:53:56.000 And this is Comfrey.

00:53:58.000 Comfrey is one of the most incredible medicines.

00:54:01.000 Aloe is another medicine.

00:54:03.000 Cuban oregano.

00:54:05.000 And then we've got papayas and sugar cane.

00:54:09.000 Back here we have grapes.

00:54:11.000 There's my little dog Lily.

00:54:14.000 And we have passion fruit.

00:54:16.000 Here's dragon fruit coming in.

00:54:19.000 Now, you give this three years and this fence will be green.

00:54:24.000 It'll be grapes and passion fruit and dragon fruit.

00:54:27.000 And then all of this is different functional plants.

00:54:30.000 In fact, there's one other real quick story since I'm here that's really important.

00:54:35.000 In the state of Florida, there's a plant called water hyacinth.

00:54:39.000 Water hyacinth is illegal to have.

00:54:42.000 It's illegal to drive with.

00:54:44.000 It's known as an invasive species that will destroy our lakes and rivers.

00:54:50.000 That whole narrative is the exact opposite of the truth.

00:54:54.000 The truth is that this plant, which is in my septic system here, is a water cleaner.

00:55:01.000 They use millions of tons of glyphosate and Roundup and poisons to kill this plant.

00:55:09.000 And when they kill it, it Dies and it creates particulates in the water.

00:55:14.000 Particulates is dirty water.

00:55:16.000 What does water hyacinth do? 1.00

00:55:18.000 It cleans the water. 0.93

00:55:19.000 So, water hyacinth will come in and it'll start exploding in growth.

00:55:24.000 And all of the poison people say, See, you got to spray it.

00:55:27.000 But here's the truth of the matter not only will it clean the lakes and rivers, but you can extract it when it does, and you can build soil and feed animals.

00:55:38.000 And here's the kicker when a lake is clean or a river is clean, Then the water hyacinth doesn't have anything to eat and it will not grow.

00:55:50.000 Wow, it regulates itself.

00:55:53.000 It does its little job and then it shuts its little mouth. 0.96

00:55:56.000 We could all learn a lesson from the water hyacinth and it's getting all that bad rap from the filthy mainstream gardeners. 0.86

00:56:05.000 Yeah, man.

00:56:05.000 What are you catching in that lake, Jim?

00:56:11.000 Bass and crappies and catfish.

00:56:13.000 And it is just, it's a beautiful, buddy.

00:56:16.000 Come here and spend a day or two in the garden with me.

00:56:21.000 We'll move some mulch, we'll plant a couple trees, and we'll put it on video and we'll show people like one fruit tree guild.

00:56:30.000 You put one fruit tree in the ground, it might take you a total of an hour and a total of $250.

00:56:36.000 That fruit tree has an infinite ROI.

00:56:41.000 As you steward it a tiny bit, you add water when it's dry, and you add a little compost tea when you need to.

00:56:48.000 And it will give you hundreds of delicious, healthy, medicinal snacks per year.

00:56:54.000 And every one of those snacks also has seeds.

00:56:57.000 So other people can start growing those fruit trees, right?

00:57:01.000 It's nature.

00:57:03.000 All wealth is derived from nature.

00:57:06.000 So that's where we must put our energy back again into stewardship.

00:57:11.000 And the ROI is life on earth, and not doing it is death of earth.

00:57:16.000 What does that mean, ROI?

00:57:19.000 Return on intention or investment.

00:57:24.000 Thanks, man.

00:57:25.000 And then, so in your house, okay, where's your energy coming from?

00:57:30.000 Solar.

00:57:30.000 We have solar.

00:57:32.000 I know there are better things coming, but for right now, solar is the best option for us.

00:57:37.000 What?

00:57:37.000 And that can run a generator and that's sufficient for everything you need?

00:57:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:43.000 We have solar is awesome, especially here in Florida.

00:57:47.000 It's very powerful.

00:57:48.000 We never go usually below 30 or 40% on our batteries, even if it's cloudy for a couple days.

00:57:54.000 Hmm, that's pretty good.

00:57:57.000 So, we could start up loads of alliances where you establish, as it sounds like you already have done, a template.

00:58:04.000 But, Jim, what would happen if we try and do it in community?

00:58:07.000 You know, like some of us are quite idiosyncratic.

00:58:10.000 Would you be able to do it?

00:58:11.000 Yeah.

00:58:12.000 What if you wanted to sort of have the whole of Florida energy needs, food needs met independently, you know, or county by county?

00:58:21.000 How would you expand it, scale it?

00:58:26.000 So that's an awesome question.

00:58:28.000 On Saturday, I'll be speaking on stage with the former Speaker of the House, Paul Renner.

00:58:33.000 And we, I'm very happy and thankful that I'm invited into this level of political conversation.

00:58:41.000 And we are going to lay out the exact plan.

00:58:43.000 We have the fiscal infrastructure plan with all the science and all the numbers.

00:58:49.000 When we start in the schools, and the other thing is the churches, right?

00:58:53.000 Schools are the first starting point along with the churches.

00:58:56.000 We are working with this church, like I mentioned, in California.

00:59:00.000 The pastor, Pastor Dave Bryan, said no during COVID, that they would not shut down.

00:59:05.000 And the sheriff stood next to him.

00:59:07.000 I love this man.

00:59:09.000 And we are designing their embassy gardens to integrate the school.

00:59:18.000 And then we're going to put it all on film and we're going to demonstrate the results of integration of schooling and stewardship.

00:59:26.000 And we're going to continue to offer this service to everybody in the world.

00:59:30.000 And we're going to continue to reinvest our surplus into local communities.

00:59:36.000 And people say, What can I do?

00:59:38.000 The number one thing that you could do.

00:59:40.000 Is start growing seeds.

00:59:42.000 If it's microgreens on the counter in a condo, or if it's the first foot outside your back door, sweet potatoes, start with something simple.

00:59:52.000 And the plants are the best teachers in the world.

00:59:56.000 Oh, that's so beautiful.

00:59:57.000 You can follow Jim at Jim P. Gale on social media and go to foodforestabundance.com.

01:00:04.000 There's a link in the description so you can learn more about Jim and his fantastic work.

01:00:08.000 Jim, I'm going to take you up on that offer.

01:00:09.000 I'm going to come there and move mulch.

01:00:11.000 And plant trees and do squats carrying buckets of fish guts.

01:00:20.000 We can even carry dirt, it's gonna be fun, brother.

01:00:25.000 Nice one, Jim.

01:00:25.000 Thanks for making time for us today.

01:00:27.000 That you've given us a really fantastic show there.

01:00:29.000 Thanks, my mate.

01:00:31.000 Thank you, Russell.

01:00:34.000 In addition to learning how to run communities free from these master imperial systems of control and decimation, we're talking to let's face it, eccentrics who are out there helping.

01:00:46.000 Helping one another, bringing love and goodness to the world in a variety of eccentric and extraordinary ways.

01:00:51.000 The first one is my friend Dean Anderson, who is driving a bus across America all the way to the famous Bill W. House.

01:00:58.000 Bill W. is the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, the first of the 12 step programs that are responsible for saving so many lives, including mine.

01:01:06.000 There's a variety of different 12 step programs for drug addicts, alcoholics, gamblers, people in debt, and people with food problems.

01:01:13.000 These principles are great for bringing about revelation.

01:01:15.000 And actually, in my book, How to Become Christian in Seven Days, I apply those 12-step principles to seven days of creation.

01:01:22.000 There's a link in the description if you want the book.

01:01:26.000 Here is my friend Dean right now explaining how you can win this extraordinary bus as well as help people that are suffering in this world.

01:01:34.000 Hello, are you there?

01:01:35.000 Is that Dean?

01:01:36.000 Are you there?

01:01:37.000 So, Dean, you began a journey in Montana and you're ending it at the legendary Wilson House in Vermont.

01:01:43.000 That's the home of Bill Wilson, the founder or one of the co-founders and the most significant.

01:01:49.000 Founder of AA.

01:01:51.000 Tell us what exactly is this project about, mate?

01:01:56.000 Well, we ended up doing a project here in Montana and we had this crazy bus left over.

01:02:03.000 And we decided what can we do to kind of help the Wilson house?

01:02:07.000 So there's two parts to it.

01:02:09.000 One is we're taking a bus from Montana, going through 12 different states and looking at the principles beneath the steps, not talking about the steps or any dogma, getting down to like the true facts about every step.

01:02:22.000 Or every principal.

01:02:23.000 And then we're going to end up at the Wilson House in Vermont.

01:02:26.000 So, the two parts is we are raffling off the Moose, this crazy bus that I bought from the Jackson Hole rugby team.

01:02:37.000 And then once we get there, we are going to announce the winner.

01:02:41.000 And I am also going to gift this old building that I've owned for many years to the Wilson House.

01:02:46.000 This building directly across the street from where Bill Wilson was born was the old general store.

01:02:53.000 When I bought it, I didn't know it was Bill's uncle's.

01:02:55.000 And I didn't know it's where Bill shopped when he was a child.

01:02:57.000 It's a really amazing.

01:03:00.000 Literature we have to support all this.

01:03:02.000 But anyway, we're going to gift that to the Wilson House, and it is going to kick off a big $8 to $10 million raise.

01:03:08.000 So we are part of something much larger than ourselves.

01:03:11.000 It's really fantastic that you're doing that, Dean.

01:03:13.000 A lot of us that got clean and sober through the 12 steps have a great fascination and, obviously, adulation for Bill W., even though it's an anonymous set of groups where we're not publicly permitted to declare what our affiliation is, whether it's to do with drinking or.

01:03:33.000 Drugs or whatever.

01:03:35.000 And yeah, I always do my best to respect that.

01:03:37.000 I haven't done it perfectly, of course.

01:03:39.000 But the important thing is that you're both bringing the history of the 12 steps to public prominence, but also you're saying that you're kind of demonstrating what the idea behind the steps are.

01:03:52.000 Can you give us what is like step one?

01:03:54.000 I understand step one to be about powerlessness and unmanageability.

01:03:58.000 I have to admit that I can't drink or take drugs ever again one day at a time.

01:04:03.000 How do you, for example, demonstrate that step?

01:04:06.000 Oh my God, this is my favorite part about it.

01:04:08.000 So, we have taken the 12 principles and we're actually tying it to places, physical places across the United States.

01:04:16.000 And you cannot get more Americana than that.

01:04:18.000 It is fantastic.

01:04:19.000 The first place we're going to go, which is a matter of fact, my favorite stop, I think, of all 12 stops, is where General Custer had his ego, the 23 year old Brigadier General hero from the Civil War.

01:04:34.000 This is where he was essentially annihilated physically, but more importantly, psychically annihilated.

01:04:40.000 He was, you couldn't tell him anything.

01:04:42.000 He had a huge ego.

01:04:44.000 He wouldn't listen to any recommendations.

01:04:48.000 He talked to himself, talked himself into making mistakes.

01:04:52.000 So these characteristics that he has are really paralleled directly to the mind of an alcoholic or addict.

01:05:01.000 So we're using this as an example to really portray a psychic death, you know, because it's the ego way out of balance.

01:05:12.000 And the Custer's Land Stand is going to do it.

01:05:15.000 So, we have this fella from the TP Trading Post who's going to jump on the moose bus with us, go there and go around the field and look at this is where he made this mistake.

01:05:27.000 This is where he made assumptions.

01:05:29.000 This is where his ego took over here.

01:05:31.000 And we're going to relate each one of those to the basically the crumbling of an addict or alcoholic.

01:05:40.000 So, great project.

01:05:41.000 That's a little long, but I get so excited.

01:05:43.000 No, that's a great idea.

01:05:44.000 It's brilliant.

01:05:45.000 It's fantastic and fascinating that you're tying together significant moments in American history with the principles of the 12 steps.

01:05:53.000 Hey, where are you right now, and where is the Moose Bus right now?

01:06:00.000 That's an excellent question.

01:06:01.000 Excellent question.

01:06:02.000 The Moose Bus is getting a little bit of a doctor's visit right now.

01:06:05.000 We're going to go down and pick it up tonight.

01:06:07.000 We're going to attach some cameras to the inside so we can have people that are joining this raffle and so forth follow along.

01:06:15.000 But I am at the bunker.

01:06:17.000 And you can't really talk about the bus, the moose bus, without the bunker.

01:06:22.000 And uh, you know, I've been coming up with crazy.

01:06:27.000 The bunker was one of 46 bunkers started by this church in Paradise Valley, Montana.

01:06:35.000 And we're right on the Yellowstone, and it's this cement structure that we converted into a really cool home.

01:06:43.000 Over six summers, we did this conversion, and prior to each summer, I would go out and pull some kids out of some bad places off the street or wherever there was.

01:06:53.000 Addicts and alcoholics, we would take them through the steps.

01:06:55.000 They would live with us for the summer.

01:06:57.000 They get paid.

01:06:59.000 And by the end of the summer, they know a new trade.

01:07:02.000 They know a lot more from us.

01:07:03.000 And we try to send them on their way.

01:07:04.000 And we have some incredible success stories.

01:07:07.000 So, and not only that, we filmed it.

01:07:09.000 We made a 90 episode educational platform for, well, we're building out a platform for these educational pieces.

01:07:18.000 That's our overall direction.

01:07:21.000 But we are in the bunker now, as you can see behind me.

01:07:26.000 And See these big Fred Flintstone holes cut back there?

01:07:30.000 That whole piece is essentially underground, five feet underground, because Pakistan was going to drop a bomb on India, this church believed in 1990. 0.91

01:07:41.000 So they built 46 of these. 0.86

01:07:43.000 And they weren't, you know, who knows?

01:07:45.000 It could have happened.

01:07:47.000 But maybe I believe in faith.

01:07:51.000 You know, I'm probably one of the few people in the world that are right now that is cutting windows in his bunker for a better view.

01:07:59.000 I tell you what, the tech billionaires aren't doing that, mate.

01:08:02.000 They're doubling down on their bunkers all over the world.

01:08:05.000 So your big drive and aim, Dean, is to create opportunities to heal addicts and alcoholics, to find low-bottom drunks and drug addicts, as we call it, like street sleepers, junkies, people that are falling apart, and give them a journey back to God through the principles of the 12 steps.

01:08:25.000 And this moose bus journey, and the bus is being raffled, is kind of like a totem of the whole thing.

01:08:32.000 Is that right?

01:08:32.000 And when you get to Bill W.'s house there in Vermont, then it's going to be raffled off.

01:08:38.000 Can anyone enter this raffle?

01:08:39.000 How do we end this raffle?

01:08:40.000 I want a bus.

01:08:40.000 I want to win it.

01:08:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:44.000 Well, we'll send you the information.

01:08:45.000 You can get on there.

01:08:46.000 And you've got some tickets, I think, already.

01:08:48.000 And yeah, anybody can do it.

01:08:49.000 It's $100 a ticket.

01:08:52.000 The bus pictures are online.

01:08:54.000 The bus used to belong to the Air Force and all that, but it's pretty low mileage.

01:08:58.000 It's an interesting vehicle.

01:08:59.000 Let's put it that way.

01:09:01.000 Well, let's see if we can find it.

01:09:02.000 When we put this out, we'll put a picture up of the bus and we'll put a link.

01:09:05.000 In the description, if you want to win this bus, $100 a ticket, but seems like a pretty historic and peculiar vehicle.

01:09:11.000 And we want to check in with you, Dean, every week to see where the bus is and what's going on.

01:09:18.000 And if General Custer represents the narcissism and vanity that typifies the end of someone's drinking journey, I'm very interested to see how you do honesty and faith and service and all of the other principles that the 12 steps are built around in your fantastic country.

01:09:33.000 And I wish you all the best, mate.

01:09:35.000 It's a really, really brilliant idea, and I'm looking forward to checking in with you.

01:09:37.000 Are you going to be on the bus?

01:09:41.000 Yes, I'm driving.

01:09:42.000 You're driving the bus.

01:09:44.000 You're driving the bus.

01:09:45.000 I'm driving the bus.

01:09:47.000 And in the world of recovery, too, we are trying to use the bus as a sense of once you get on it, once you start being a seeker or moving toward solution and God, once you start reaching up into the universe, it'll reach back.

01:10:00.000 You know, the healing will happen.

01:10:01.000 So we try to use the bus as an analogy.

01:10:04.000 Keep on going through these principles.

01:10:06.000 Live your life by these different truths, and you will automatically.

01:10:10.000 Evolve.

01:10:11.000 Who's that in the background?

01:10:12.000 He looks like a troublemaker.

01:10:13.000 He better be on the bus.

01:10:14.000 Get that guy, looks like water from the Big Lebowski. 0.94

01:10:17.000 Get him, he looks a little English.

01:10:21.000 Let me just one second about him. 1.00

01:10:24.000 He's a loser. 0.99

01:10:26.000 This guy was a bunker boy. 1.00

01:10:28.000 He came out to the bunker.

01:10:29.000 His name is Austin, and he was in a really, really rough spot.

01:10:34.000 Okay.

01:10:34.000 Four or five years ago, he came out here with a group of other guys, worked his arse off on the bunker, pouring some meds.

01:10:44.000 Every night, going to a meeting, did the work.

01:10:47.000 And now he owns his own photography company.

01:10:49.000 He's got children.

01:10:50.000 He's married.

01:10:52.000 And I cannot tell you how proud of him.

01:10:54.000 I've just brought him out here to turn this into a VRBO Airbnb.

01:10:57.000 And I brought him back as a success story and to give him the business to film this place when we start to market it. 0.84

01:11:05.000 So he's my freaking hero, man.

01:11:08.000 I'm coming there to Montana. 0.92

01:11:09.000 I'm going to come and see you guys. 1.00

01:11:10.000 You're all lunatics. 1.00

01:11:11.000 You're lunatics. 1.00

01:11:13.000 I'm coming to see what you're doing out there. 1.00

01:11:14.000 Oh, my God.

01:11:16.000 Wait till I.

01:11:18.000 We made up this song.

01:11:19.000 I don't know if you've ever seen the show, Brother We're for Art Now.

01:11:22.000 Yeah.

01:11:22.000 You ever seen the movie?

01:11:23.000 Yeah.

01:11:24.000 So the beginning of it, there's a, I read, it's a free, the song is free because it's so old.

01:11:29.000 So we redid it with language about getting on the bus.

01:11:34.000 And I'm singing into a dried out buffalo hoof. 0.98

01:11:38.000 And I think, you know what I would like to do?

01:11:40.000 Right there.

01:11:42.000 I will.

01:11:42.000 I want to see that next time.

01:11:44.000 We do that.

01:11:45.000 Send us that song.

01:11:46.000 Well done, Dean.

01:11:47.000 Dean, it's lovely to see you.

01:11:48.000 I'm looking forward to checking in with you next time.

01:11:50.000 And thank you for doing all this great work for the people that need it in recovery.

01:11:53.000 It's beautiful, mate.

01:11:56.000 Russell, thank you and thank you for your support.

01:11:58.000 Praise the Lord.

01:11:58.000 See you next time.

01:12:00.000 Well, if you want to participate in the raffle, there's a link in the description.

01:12:04.000 Look at that beautiful bus.

01:12:05.000 Who wouldn't want to win a bus like that?

01:12:07.000 And let us know if you have any endeavors that you would like us to support because we've got to build community together to overthrow this system of filthy corruption.

01:12:14.000 We're here to love one another.

01:12:15.000 Thanks very much for joining us today.

01:12:16.000 Remember, click the link, get the audio book, and get this book too when you have the time and inclination.

01:12:22.000 I'm most proud of it.

01:12:23.000 We'll be back next time, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

01:12:26.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - May 22, 2026

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