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00:04:56.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:04:58.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:05:02.000 Whilst we may be in the midst of a global omni-crisis, perhaps we can see this as an opportunity to form new discourse around, well, awakening, peace, unity.

00:05:15.000 Perhaps we can form a vision of a better mind together, first individually and then ultimately in a shared imagination.

00:05:23.000 For surely each vision, each iteration of civilization and society has been before its realization and instantiation a dream in the minds of people just like us.

00:05:34.000 At least that is my prayer.

00:05:36.000 Thank you for having the courage to join us.

00:05:38.000 Thank you for having hope in your hearts and if you don't have hope in your heart then let me be a conduit for that possibility right now for I believe that we can Together, improve our individual and collective condition through that most hokey, folky and almost cliched of commodities, love itself, the felt experience of the deep unity that underlies all apparent separateness.

00:06:01.000 Not that you would know it if you were to look at American political conversation in particular at the moment because there's a lot of hawkish crying for war in Iran.

00:06:11.000 Now we're pretty determined here on our channel Not to comment on the positions taken by people directly affected by this conflict across its entire spectrum because surely after those attacks you can understand why people would want vengeance, why people would be lost in delirious rage.

00:06:29.000 Surely you can see why people have a variety of perspectives on this subject.

00:06:34.000 And isn't one of the most important principles that we, those of us that are not personally involved, stick to,

00:06:40.000 is open-heartedness and a willingness to look for solutions together,

00:06:44.000 to almost in some way be present for everyone that's personally affected.

00:06:49.000 And I bet loads of you feel like I do, like just bewildered and delirious.

00:06:54.000 Loads of people in the space we operate in have taken really,

00:06:57.000 really strong positions, but it's like it hurts me too much to imagine

00:07:01.000 that I would meet someone from any side of this conflict and not be able to say,

00:07:06.000 we're here for you in your suffering.

00:07:08.000 I pray for you.

00:07:09.000 I pray for you.

00:07:10.000 I wish I had the confidence.

00:07:11.000 I wish I had the certainty to say, This is what we must do.

00:07:16.000 This is what they must do.

00:07:17.000 But all I can feel is a kind of a sorrow and a longing and a yearning and a hope for something beyond this.

00:07:25.000 Some kind of unity that might come from all of this separateness and from all of this pain and suffering.

00:07:31.000 And I want my life to become a prayer for the people that are suffering in this.

00:07:35.000 We have conversations on this show, as you know, that are pretty complex, and I think you're going to love the one that we're having in today's show with a man called Ted Walter.

00:07:43.000 I'd not heard of him before, but he's an expert on 9-11, what you'd have to call counter-narratives.

00:07:50.000 These are the kind of things that, and let me know in the chat if you're aware of this world, that a little while ago you'd have had to have gone into the Darker reaches of the online spaces to access.

00:07:59.000 He talks about what would once have been called 9-11 conspiracy theories.

00:08:03.000 He raises some fascinating questions and he conveys some information that's pretty difficult to listen to.

00:08:10.000 It's a contentious subject.

00:08:12.000 It's a fascinating subject.

00:08:13.000 If you want to gain access to all of that conversation, press the awaken button that's on your screen now.

00:08:19.000 As always, the first part of our show will be streamed on YouTube and it will... YouTube?

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00:08:25.000 That's what happened to us lately.

00:08:26.000 You've been YouTubed, mate.

00:08:27.000 You've been YouTubed where the sun don't shine.

00:08:29.000 YouTubed you right up the monetization, mate.

00:08:33.000 It'll be on YouTube for the first 15 minutes.

00:08:35.000 There's a link in the description.

00:08:36.000 You can join us over on Rumble.

00:08:37.000 Now, with Rumble, the best thing to do is download the app and watch it there, right?

00:08:41.000 And turn on notifications.

00:08:42.000 Because if you do, every time we make content, you'll be told about that.

00:08:45.000 Do you know, though, that if you've got a Samsung phone, they won't even let you get it?

00:08:49.000 And if you're in France, they won't even let you get it.

00:08:51.000 So we must be doing something right.

00:08:54.000 The first story I want to talk to you lot about today is, in a sense, perhaps, let me know if you agree in the chat with just a yes or a no, where the solution might lie.

00:09:05.000 Hundreds of Jewish Americans were arrested in the U.S.

00:09:08.000 Capitol on Wednesday protesting for Congress to push for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

00:09:15.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene accused them, of course, of being insurrectionists.

00:09:19.000 Let me know how you feel about Marjorie Taylor Greene either way as well.

00:09:22.000 God, I'm just trying to offer you the idea of some kind of transcendence here.

00:09:25.000 And let me know if you think that these Jewish American protesters

00:09:29.000 are heading in the right direction, because certainly they're making a protest that

00:09:33.000 I wouldn't be able to make without feeling that I was wounding those directly affected by the agony of this

00:09:40.000 conflict.

00:09:41.000 And yet their position perhaps could be part of a solution for all of us.

00:09:47.000 Certainly that's my prayer.

00:09:49.000 Let's have a look at that protest and let's know who'd like because you know recently there was a protest on Capitol, I believe it was on January the 5th, 6th, 7th around that kind of time and it was immediately called an insurrection and then we found out that there was a peculiar amount of deep state control, four warnings were ignored, peculiar information and it became over time another of those examples of the polemicism and ...tendency for polarity that the world is experiencing in such an extreme way right now and now into this this incredibly fractious conflagratory space has come the mother and father of all divisive issues the ongoing Middle Eastern conflict

00:10:32.000 Here, perhaps, are some tender shoots of potential solution.

00:10:38.000 People willing to protest outside of their demographic and cultural group.

00:10:42.000 Let me know what you think about these ideas, guys, and let's have a look at that protest now.

00:10:45.000 We have breaking news from Capitol Hill.

00:10:47.000 Take a look at these pictures.

00:10:49.000 A group of protesters staging a demonstration, calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.

00:10:54.000 They are inside the Cannon House office building.

00:10:57.000 I want to go to NBC's Julie Serkin.

00:10:59.000 Julie, what more can you tell us?

00:11:01.000 Yeah, hey Chris, I mean you literally see some of them behind me right now.

00:11:04.000 There are about a thousand of them. Hundreds of them have been able to actually get into the cannon office.

00:11:10.000 I'm going to let them off the hook before I'm standing.

00:11:12.000 Right now they are up from a post. You know that post voice is for peace.

00:11:17.000 These are American Jews and allies who are of course not Jewish as well.

00:11:22.000 They are demanding a ceasefire on both sides.

00:11:24.000 I will tell you also, Chris, there's a lot of people behind me right now.

00:11:28.000 They're all over this rotunda. They're all over the bottom as you see on your screens right now.

00:11:33.000 There have been some arrests made as I was even walking to this camera.

00:11:37.000 I saw a number of Capitol Police take...

00:11:40.000 A demand for peace from Jewish Americans would seem to me to be a positive thing.

00:11:51.000 Let me know if you agree with that in the chat, because again, let me reiterate this, because I would hate to be misunderstood at such a sensitive time.

00:11:59.000 Who's qualified to say to the people of Israel that their feelings are not valid after the horrors of those attacks?

00:12:06.000 Who is in a position to condemn people that are advocating for support if indeed hospitals and vital infrastructure are being lost?

00:12:15.000 Who outside of that conflict is in a position to confidently claim that they have a monopoly on truth and a monopoly on righteousness?

00:12:24.000 Indeed, Isn't this situation born from the polarity and the conflict that is born when distinct and potentially and evidently opposing views both believe that they're right and that there's no possibility for a way out of it?

00:12:36.000 There's US Capitol Police there, at least that's what it says on his jacket.

00:12:40.000 Most likely FBI, CIA.

00:12:42.000 I mean, who is that?

00:12:43.000 Who is that guy in that high-vis vest?

00:12:45.000 So...

00:12:48.000 Where you will not get complex analysis, I would say, is from Joe Biden, the President of the United States, who's always kind of willing to move between, let me know if you agree with this, between bombast and doddering.

00:13:05.000 What is your message to Hezbollah and its backer, Iran?

00:13:07.000 mostly. Like he's either being very very bombastic or very very doddery. This is

00:13:13.000 more bombastic Biden I would say. He's sort of found a rhetorical trick that he

00:13:19.000 can rely on. It's the word, it's the word don't. Now it's clearly working for him

00:13:25.000 because he can't stop using it. You're gonna love this.

00:13:29.000 What is your message to Hezbollah and its backer Iran? Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't.

00:13:39.000 He's so confident in don't that he's decided to take it on the road.

00:13:43.000 That's him just working it out, workshopping the don't model and the don't motif.

00:13:48.000 He's going, I know he's going to take it.

00:13:50.000 He's going to take it live.

00:13:52.000 My message to any state or any other hostile actor, thinking about attacking Israel remains the same as it was a week ago.

00:13:59.000 Don't, don't, don't.

00:14:04.000 Just don't.

00:14:06.000 Now, a little while ago, Joe Biden made a pretty outrageous claim.

00:14:11.000 Russia has already lost the Russia-Ukraine war.

00:14:17.000 Now, this is another one of those stories where what we've been told publicly is distinct from what is said privately.

00:14:23.000 I had a great conversation recently, actually, where it was proposed that all government information

00:14:29.000 Imagine if you had total transparency in government and total privacy for the individual.

00:14:29.000 should be transparent.

00:14:35.000 What's being, what the aim appears to be is total transparency and lack of privacy for the

00:14:39.000 individual and maximum, maximum privacy for the government.

00:14:44.000 So whether it was the COVID pandemic or the Ukraine-Russia war, in public, they're saying,

00:14:52.000 Putin don't stand a chance, we're annihilating him.

00:14:54.000 And then in the background, they're like, this counter offensive is not going well, we're losing.

00:14:59.000 But the thing is, there is another side to this argument, and that side of the argument is represented by one Vladimir Putin.

00:15:07.000 Have a look at what Joe Biden says in public, and in a minute we'll show you Putin's response.

00:15:12.000 What agreement is ultimately reached depends upon Putin and what he decides to do, but there is no possibility of him winning the war in Ukraine.

00:15:25.000 He's already lost that war.

00:15:27.000 Imagine if even if, anyway, he's already lost that war.

00:15:32.000 See that, uh, he's making a claim there that I would not want to make it to someone as someone as so pugnacious and confident as Vladimir Putin.

00:15:44.000 This is a nightmare response.

00:15:47.000 Like, Vladimir Putin, it's like if you've sort of said at school that you're willing to have a fight with someone.

00:15:52.000 Like, yeah, I'll have a fight with him.

00:15:53.000 Tell him about me after school.

00:15:54.000 Like, and there's someone that actually really, really enjoys fighting.

00:15:58.000 Look at Vladimir Putin's, uh, look at Putin's response to this.

00:16:02.000 Why supply ATAKOMS to Russia?

00:16:05.000 Let them take back ATAKOMS, all other weapons, land for pancakes, come to us for a cup of tea.

00:16:12.000 Is there a lost war?

00:16:14.000 What are we talking about?

00:16:15.000 Why ATAKOMS?

00:16:17.000 Ask him this question.

00:16:18.000 Well, it's funny.

00:16:23.000 That's a pretty leery stance.

00:16:26.000 You come for a pancake with me.

00:16:28.000 I assure you.

00:16:29.000 We've already lost the war.

00:16:29.000 I assure you.

00:16:32.000 Putin's operating on another level.

00:16:35.000 Do you think we're in the middle of some massive global spiritual conflict that goes even beyond what's revealed?

00:16:40.000 Are we in?

00:16:41.000 And I don't mean from a geopolitical perspective, because there is of course escalating tensions

00:16:46.000 between the US and China, escalating tensions in the proxy war

00:16:49.000 between Russia and the United States.

00:16:52.000 All of these wars are being bundled in with, certainly financially,

00:16:56.000 with the escalating tensions in the Middle East.

00:16:58.000 But as long as I think it goes deeper than that, that there is something taking place

00:17:01.000 in the heart of each of us, that we're at a time of true fracture and crisis,

00:17:04.000 where all of us are gonna have to make some decision about what is it that we want.

00:17:08.000 I mean, do you not sometimes think that this is starting to appear like

00:17:12.000 many of the apocalyptic scriptural texts?

00:17:15.000 The Rapture, Apocalypse, Armageddon.

00:17:19.000 How long can we sustain the idea that these quaking, shaking, broken systems can service the problems that we're experiencing now?

00:17:28.000 The military-industrial complex, the legacy media as it currently stands, an American political system that clearly Moves to the tune of a donor class.

00:17:38.000 Increasing globalism to the point where your national sovereignty and your national democracy is redundant.

00:17:45.000 Stay tuned to the WHO treaty.

00:17:48.000 I think that drops in like a week.

00:17:49.000 I've got like one more week to go.

00:17:51.000 I'm not sure I want WHO being able to bypass democracy in my country and impose lockdowns.

00:17:58.000 This is a really crucial time and vast, terrible and inconceivably horrific, although current

00:18:05.000 global events might be, I still consider the possibility that they are symptomatic of something

00:18:09.000 deeper and in fact, of course they are, because all material phenomena is a manifestation

00:18:16.000 of something subtler, even if you think the entire cosmos emerged from a sub-molecular

00:18:21.000 explosion.

00:18:23.000 What was this subtler, pre-precedent quality prior to the Big Bang?

00:18:27.000 What is the a priori material from which reality is formed?

00:18:33.000 Now if pancakes with Putin is the answer, I offer you this.

00:18:38.000 Putin offering up pancakes is something that he sort of does.

00:18:41.000 Even though to me it sounds pretty off-key, apparently for Putin it's normal.

00:18:47.000 He had pancakes with Xi, you know, and he's in China right now.

00:18:52.000 That's where Vladimir Putin is right now.

00:18:54.000 He's in China.

00:18:55.000 Ooh, that ain't good, because if Vladimir Putin and President Xi are having pancakes right now, I would say that world events could be taking a turn for the worse any day, because this is not some sort of totally localised proxy-oriented conflict anymore.

00:19:14.000 There are serious participants coming together in opposition.

00:19:19.000 I don't know, man, I'm confused.

00:19:22.000 Now anyway, do you want to have a look at Xi and Putin having pancakes in the past, or do you want to see...

00:19:29.000 A driverless car taking you straight into the arms of dystopia.

00:19:35.000 If you want to see Xi and Putin having pancakes, press 1.

00:19:38.000 If you want to see a driverless taxi, press 2.

00:19:41.000 And while you're deciding, I'll keep an eye on the chat and then someone will tell me as well.

00:19:45.000 I'll read some of the comments you sent.

00:19:46.000 What if you just sat in a meeting at work, said Penela71, and just answered the questions with, don't, don't.

00:19:52.000 Yeah, you can't do that in normal life.

00:19:53.000 They live in another world, don't they?

00:19:55.000 True Nature's Child says, if you watch Biden's interviews from the past, he was still dodgy, but so much sharper.

00:20:00.000 You watch him in the 70s and 80s, he's sort of like someone from Anchorman, like in a brown suit, sort of balding, but with some sort of priapism about him.

00:20:09.000 Arlene Calgary, I'm so tired of the mainstream media.

00:20:12.000 Who knows what to believe in anymore?

00:20:14.000 Firegirl20, just simply posting hope.

00:20:17.000 Sarah G, very smart and ethical.

00:20:19.000 Words are like seeds.

00:20:20.000 Prayers is all I feel I can offer.

00:20:22.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

00:20:23.000 What do we do, man?

00:20:24.000 All right, and Katie Beth simply, the Bible is unfolding before us.

00:20:28.000 Right, let me just think about the last bit of the Bible, chapter of revelations, beast come out of the sea, prophecies, trumpet blasts, seventh seal, seventh seal.

00:20:36.000 Oh yeah, that went well, that was quite nice, but surely, isn't there a bit I think at the very end of the Bible, I'm going to go and check where it says, then everything's okay, and it's going to be alright, and we're going to awaken to the love of God within us, that God manifested God's self on earth through the figure of Christ, to show us a kind of a portal to divinity.

00:20:54.000 Are we going to start taking God seriously?

00:20:56.000 As is commonly said, the world don't need more people who believe in God, just those of us that do, to start acting like it.

00:21:05.000 OK, so I believe... What is it?

00:21:07.000 Let me have a look at the old ones and twos.

00:21:11.000 Pancakes by a landslide.

00:21:13.000 I'm seeing a lot of twos.

00:21:14.000 I'm seeing a lot of twos.

00:21:15.000 But let's start with those.

00:21:16.000 This is Putin and Xi having pancakes.

00:21:18.000 Now try and study this and let me know if you think this is good or bad for escalating global tension.

00:21:27.000 Do these men seem like they're about to bring about Armageddon?

00:21:34.000 And also, do they have good camaraderie around the pancake stand significantly?

00:21:42.000 I don't think they look very good at pancakes actually.

00:21:45.000 Putin, he's scattered the batter.

00:21:48.000 He's a batter scatterer.

00:21:50.000 You don't scatter batter like that.

00:21:51.000 I put the batter in the center and let sweet lady gravity take her course.

00:21:55.000 Let it form a natural circular pull.

00:21:58.000 Putin, scatter batter.

00:22:00.000 I scatter batter, I scatter Biden.

00:22:02.000 Let's see how Xi scatters the batter.

00:22:07.000 There's another bar scatterer!

00:22:08.000 They're scattering bars together!

00:22:10.000 That's going to be nuclear warheads raining down all over Europe and North America any day now.

00:22:16.000 This is wheat flour.

00:22:18.000 This is wheat.

00:22:20.000 The pancakes have turned out okay.

00:22:23.000 They're not interacting much, are they?

00:22:29.000 They're not like... It's like they're sort of in a lab, and they're each in separate cages.

00:22:35.000 You know, have you ever seen that thing where they give, like, they have monkeys in the cage, and they give one monkey, like, some grapes, and the other monkey they give, like, some dodgy old cracker, and the one that's gone giving the cracker's like, They're in distinct universes, Xi and Putin.

00:22:52.000 If these guys team up, this is more than a sort of a Marvel cinematic universe.

00:22:57.000 This is a not-that-marvellous apocalyptic cosmos, I would say, wouldn't you?

00:23:04.000 Hey, if you're watching us on YouTube right now, click the link in the description and become part of our community on Rumble.

00:23:10.000 Download the app, and if it's within your means, become an Awakened Wonder, support our content, do meditations with us, start formulating the solutions to the problems we're evidently facing.

00:23:20.000 We need you, we all need one another.

00:23:22.000 Seems to be the case.

00:23:23.000 Let's just see if these guys are going to make eye contact before they finish their

00:23:27.000 batter scatter.

00:23:29.000 Do you think that they have inconceivable...

00:23:37.000 Savory pancakes over there in Russia, that seems to be the case, huh?

00:23:40.000 Like, what's that?

00:23:41.000 That looks like they're having a meat pancake there.

00:23:44.000 I'm not sure about that.

00:23:45.000 What do you have on it?

00:23:46.000 A bit of lemon and a bit of sugar?

00:23:46.000 You don't sort of go hard with chilli con carne on a pancake, do you?

00:23:50.000 Like these guys are going...

00:23:51.000 Do you think they're actually they do represent the power of entire nations or do you feel that global politicians are essentially sort of puppets marionettes behind whom there are deeper ulterior forces that operate beyond the kind of national divisions that we mere grunts operate within?

00:24:11.000 Essentially I'm saying like in the same way that you would question The power of a president or a politician in any one of our sort of, the nations we're more familiar with, Anglophonic, Western Europe, whatever.

00:24:22.000 Do you think that Putin's got someone above him going, Vladimir, I did not like the way you made those pancakes.

00:24:28.000 You make Russia look weak!

00:24:29.000 And the same with Xi.

00:24:31.000 Like, do you think that Xi's actually calling the shots over there?

00:24:33.000 Or do they have a deeper state deal?

00:24:37.000 WF says Mars is going straight in there.

00:24:39.000 Straight in.

00:24:40.000 Well, you guys are gonna, you guys, they can't be Klaus Schwab.

00:24:44.000 Well, I could make those pancakes.

00:24:47.000 I've got pancake batter in the pouches of my cheek.

00:24:51.000 If I just push my... If I push my cheek, that's... It runs down my chin there.

00:24:58.000 I make pancakes with my saliva every morning.

00:25:01.000 Too much?

00:25:02.000 Klaus Schwab's cheek pancakes.

00:25:04.000 Is that the answer?

00:25:06.000 To the world we're living in?

00:25:07.000 I can't believe it is.

00:25:08.000 I can't believe it is.

00:25:10.000 All right, so they're at the top of their own food chain, says Sean's Bass.

00:25:13.000 No one really commenting on Klaus Schwab's cheeks being filled with pancake batter, which I'm disappointed in.

00:25:19.000 Listen, you're going to love this show, because in a minute we're talking to Walter, Ted Walter, about 9-11.

00:25:26.000 It's not the kind of thing we can put on YouTube, let me tell you that.

00:25:29.000 It's pretty intense.

00:25:32.000 In the old times, when I sort of transitioned from being a person who was like a mainstream legacy media celebrity into becoming a kind of ardent advocate for global revolution, one of the moments that got hot was I sort of said, there's no point voting, right?

00:25:45.000 I mean, there's no point voting.

00:25:46.000 No one I grew up with votes because we all just recognize whatever party you vote for, you end up being governed by the same deep state.

00:25:53.000 It's night!

00:25:54.000 Here's some news!

00:25:54.000 It's nighty news!

00:25:55.000 of the charade that we call democracy.

00:25:57.000 Well, people didn't like me saying that, and things started to get a bit on top

00:26:00.000 from that moment on, to tell you the truth.

00:26:01.000 Anyway, I went on some news show, it's like the equivalent of 60 Minutes in your country.

00:26:05.000 I think it's called News Night.

00:26:06.000 It's night, here's some news, it's nighty news, news up your nighty!

00:26:11.000 And I was on there, and what happened was, is that they were asking questions

00:26:16.000 to try and get me to mess up.

00:26:18.000 And it's not hard to get me to mess up, because I'm a bit of a shoot-from-the-hip type of transparent, what-you-see-is-what-you-get person, right?

00:26:25.000 So he goes, well, what about the Twin Towers?

00:26:28.000 Let's leave YouTube.

00:26:30.000 Let's leave YouTube.

00:26:31.000 Join us!

00:26:31.000 Click the link in the description.

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00:26:36.000 You're going to love it, baby.

00:26:37.000 So we're off.

00:26:38.000 We're off YouTube.

00:26:38.000 We're just on Rumble now.

00:26:40.000 All right, if you're rumbled, become a sport.

00:26:41.000 Anyway, he goes to me, what do you think about this?

00:26:43.000 I go, I don't trust the American government.

00:26:45.000 That's all I said.

00:26:45.000 I don't trust the American government.

00:26:47.000 That's it.

00:26:48.000 That's all I said.

00:26:49.000 Now, because in the past I've been a bit insensitive around that subject, and I sort of regret that now.

00:26:52.000 Obviously, specifically, I dressed as Osama bin Laden on September the 12th, but I was on drugs then.

00:26:56.000 So, you know, it was crazy days.

00:26:58.000 Anyway, this guy, Water, I give him, I really give him some serious pushback.

00:27:04.000 I'm like, because if you're saying that 9-11 was anything other than some al-Qaeda trained terrorists flew those planes, if it's anything other than that, if there is CIA involvement, if there are anomalies, if there are inconsistencies, what trial could be appropriate?

00:27:21.000 What, what would be sufficient for that?

00:27:24.000 You know anyway that particular question is only available for you guys on locals actually because You know for reasons that are obvious.

00:27:32.000 It's pretty radical stuff So anyway join our community if you haven't already it's really worth it We meditate together we build and we grow together and we will look for solutions together and yes, stay tuned because it's a great conversation, but before that We're still talking, obviously, about this unfolding crisis in the Middle East, and in particular, about who's exploiting it.

00:27:55.000 Who's exploiting a situation that's so sensitive and painful?

00:28:00.000 Well, one person, it could be argued, is potentially, and let me know what you think about this in the chat, Lindsey Graham, the Trump advocate, He's saying that there should be attacks on Iran.

00:28:09.000 Now we can perfectly understand why people that are affected by those terror attacks are advocating for an escalation.

00:28:16.000 Who knows?

00:28:16.000 I can only assume you feel unbearable grief.

00:28:20.000 Obviously.

00:28:21.000 But Lindsey Graham is calling for attacks on Iran, in particular attacks on Iranian oil refineries.

00:28:27.000 So we're looking at people in Congress investing, in weapons manufacturers, and we're looking at the fact that attacking Iran has been on the American neocon military industrial complex agenda for a long while now.

00:28:42.000 Even, in fact, and did you guys forget this?

00:28:44.000 That when Trump had all them boxes of confidential documents, one of them was, PLAN TO ATTACK IRAN!

00:28:50.000 Like, and he was like, well, you know, I revealed it because they were saying it was his idea.

00:28:54.000 It's not my idea.

00:28:55.000 So, like, check it out.

00:28:56.000 Anyway, like, we go into this subject in some depth and I pray with sensitivity for everyone involved in this conflict.

00:29:02.000 Here's the news.

00:29:04.000 No, here's the effing news.

00:29:06.000 No, here's the fucking news!

00:29:11.000 US political figures are calling for attacks on Iran, but were there plans to attack Iran long before the terrorist attacks on Israel?

00:29:19.000 And is this situation being further exploited by economically driven interests?

00:29:26.000 We've been talking a lot about the exploitation of escalating tensions in the Middle East, how people in Congress are purchasing stocks and shares in weapons companies that are set to benefit from this increasing conflagration.

00:29:40.000 Of course, we are mindful to stand well away from those of you that are personally affected, either ideologically or religiously, by this horrific situation.

00:29:49.000 And focus instead on those that may be seeking to exploit this conflict in exactly the same way that they've exploited other conflicts in recent years and even contemporaneously exploited the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war.

00:30:04.000 In fact in some cases these conflicts are being bound together as a kind of one size fits all military opportunity.

00:30:14.000 Calls for attacking Iran remain interesting as it's been a long-standing policy within

00:30:22.000 US military-industrial complex and neocon circles to increase, escalate and ignite tensions

00:30:29.000 and even war with Iran.

00:30:31.000 First it was discussed as part of the new American century.

00:30:34.000 Countries like Syria, Iraq and Iran significantly were nominated as potential opponents for

00:30:40.000 America for forthcoming wars.

00:30:42.000 We'll be talking about that.

00:30:43.000 And I'd almost forgotten, had you, that when Donald Trump had those confidential documents

00:30:48.000 when he left office, significantly some of the documentation in those boxes was planned

00:30:54.000 for an attack or war with Iran.

00:30:57.000 So we're asking, is this situation tragic and inconceivable, though it might seem, to rational and awakening people like you?

00:31:06.000 Being used to create opportunities to attack enemies for reasons beyond this current crisis.

00:31:13.000 Firstly, let's have a look at Lindsey Graham, who, as you know, is an ardent advocate for ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia.

00:31:22.000 Always suggesting further military packages that would ultimately benefit Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

00:31:27.000 Let's see how he is binding together the Ukraine-Russia conflict and this conflict and advocating openly for attacks, interestingly, on Iranian oil refineries.

00:31:39.000 Just let me know if you think that this rhetoric is about humanitarian support for a country that's recently experienced an egregious terrorist attack.

00:31:48.000 Or could there be other motivation Well, for every Israeli or American hostage executed by Hamas, we should take down an Iranian oil refinery.

00:32:06.000 We're going to blow up your oil refineries and put you out of business.

00:32:10.000 Have you noticed that Lindsey Graham's nomenclature, his linguistic set, is all about economics and business.

00:32:17.000 Put them out of business.

00:32:18.000 Plainly, the language around attacking Iran was economically undergirded.

00:32:21.000 When he speaks about Ukraine-Russia, it's very much couched in business terms.

00:32:25.000 He is very pro the perpetuation of this conflict.

00:32:28.000 Here's what we've gotten for our investment.

00:32:30.000 We haven't lost one soldier.

00:32:33.000 We reduced the combat power of the Russian army by 50 percent and not one of us has died in that

00:32:39.000 endeavor. This is a great deal for America. Doesn't that seem to be an unusual type of

00:32:45.000 language to deploy when discussing an event that, however you perceive it, leads to death and

00:32:52.000 destruction and sadness, has already caused immeasurable, almost unimaginable, except for

00:32:57.000 those of you that are forced to be confronted by it because of proximity or because it's something

00:33:02.000 that involves you, suffering and sadness.

00:33:04.000 To see it spoken of in economic terms, doesn't that seem odd to you and worthy of further consideration?

00:33:10.000 You've previously said that it's the best money we've ever spent.

00:33:14.000 That's still true?

00:33:15.000 Since we helped Churchill stand up to the Nazis.

00:33:18.000 Let's have a look at Vivek Ramaswamy advocating for restraint on Stephen Crowder's Rumble Show.

00:33:22.000 If I'm talking to BB, I would say, listen up, we got your back.

00:33:25.000 Don't let anybody stand in your way from defending yourself, and we've got your back on that.

00:33:29.000 But my advice to you would be that we've made some of our poorest decisions in the wake of real disaster.

00:33:35.000 That was your 9-11, we had our 9-11 here.

00:33:38.000 And we entered disastrous multi-decade commitments in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, and 20 years later, it did not do us an iota of good.

00:33:49.000 The understandable grief of anger of people directly affected is not what we are commenting on here.

00:33:54.000 What we are talking about is, is this situation being exploited?

00:33:57.000 And was there a pre-existing agenda when it comes to Iran as part of America's military-industrial-complex-oriented foreign policy?

00:34:05.000 Let's have a look at what Tucker Carlson had to say about neocons advocating for war and indeed his potential suspicion that there are motivations beyond support and solidarity.

00:34:17.000 What exactly would happen to the United States if we declared war on Iran and started blowing up their infrastructure?

00:34:24.000 Lindsey Graham has no clue what would happen.

00:34:26.000 He hasn't thought it through.

00:34:28.000 He's almost 70 years old and he has no children.

00:34:31.000 He doesn't care.

00:34:33.000 But neither amazingly do most of his colleagues in Washington.

00:34:36.000 They're as reckless as he is.

00:34:38.000 Texas Congressman Dan Crenshaw took to social media to call for what he described as a war to end all wars.

00:34:45.000 As if there is such a thing.

00:34:46.000 We're not talking about this conflict and the understandable anger and rage that people that are directly involved must feel at this time.

00:34:54.000 We are asking, is this situation being exploited and has there been a long-standing agenda to engage Iran in conflict?

00:35:03.000 For example, Trump's confidential documents are said to have contained plans to attack Iran.

00:35:10.000 Let's revisit that.

00:35:11.000 The issue stemmed from Trump's apparent frustration with what he claimed was a false narrative being pushed by the press that after losing the 2020 election, under the advice of the coterie of Iran hawks he'd surrounded himself with, Trump was dangerously close to ordering strikes on Iran that could have triggered full-scale war and had to be talked down from it by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley.

00:35:34.000 But the former president maintained the reality of the situation was the exact opposite.

00:35:38.000 That it was Milley and the Pentagon who were pushing for an attack on Iran, on a reluctant Trump, and that the classified documents he had kept were proof of this.

00:35:47.000 It's interesting to reflect on that story about a potential agenda, we're speaking again about the United States of America, not Israel, when it comes to Iran and foreign policy.

00:35:57.000 Very curious.

00:35:58.000 And indeed, how old are these ideas?

00:36:00.000 And what is the history of agitation in particular between the United States and their military industrial complex partners and Iran?

00:36:07.000 Of course, I'm talking about the project for the new American century.

00:36:10.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments if you're familiar with that phrase.

00:36:13.000 Years ago, there was a plan, a clean break, Project for the New American Century.

00:36:18.000 P-N-A-C.

00:36:19.000 To wreck the Oslo Peace Accords between Israel and the Palestinians, and to remould the Middle East.

00:36:24.000 It first involved destroying Iraq, or in the discredited words of Paul Wolfowitz, the road to peace in the Middle East goes through Baghdad.

00:36:31.000 Destroying Syria was to be next.

00:36:33.000 and then Iran. In 2006, columnist Taki Theodorakoupoulos warned in the American Conservative of the

00:36:39.000 Clean Break Plan to aggressively remake the strategic environments of Iraq, Palestine,

00:36:45.000 Lebanon, Syria and Iran. So when there are so many complex aspects of this war, it's

00:36:51.000 worth tracking the observable trend towards potential profiteering and other agenda. People

00:36:57.000 in Congress purchasing stocks and shares in weapons manufacturers.

00:37:02.000 Have a look at this on X from Unusual Wales.

00:37:04.000 And this ongoing narrative around attacking Iran.

00:37:07.000 Curious.

00:37:08.000 So what are the potential consequences for any US involvement in a potential war with Iran?

00:37:14.000 And escalating a regionalised conflagration, tragic, awful, though that is in itself, into something that has potential global connotations.

00:37:23.000 And fits into the narrative of forever wars that we've been discussing since the conflict between Ukraine and Russia escalated and the potential even for a war with China around the issue of Taiwan.

00:37:35.000 Is this potentially a component of that?

00:37:38.000 Let me know in the chat in the comments what you think.

00:37:39.000 These calls for attacking Iran risk an escalation that could entrench the US in another forever war.

00:37:45.000 Nearly 20 years after the invasion of Iraq, it is commonly understood as a historic mistake of US foreign policy.

00:37:52.000 The push for another disastrous war in the Middle East appears to be the real intention of hawkish voices.

00:37:57.000 That's what we're asking.

00:37:59.000 What is the real intention?

00:38:00.000 Is it support and solidarity, or is it exploitation?

00:38:03.000 Witnessing the death and devastation in Ukraine and concerns over nuclear escalation with Russia, it is all the more crucial to weigh the consequences of war.

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00:40:05.000 I've never wanted to be in your sweet nation more.

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00:40:12.000 Very durable as well.

00:40:13.000 So, let's get back to this complex piece of content in the midst of the Omnicrisis in a difficult time.

00:40:19.000 This is not to mention the global impact of such conflicts as can be seen in rising food and energy costs, a looming global food crisis that will starve many already facing food insecurity around the world, and inflation in the United States that is heavily impacting the lives of American workers.

00:40:33.000 It's difficult to make such arguments from the perspective of people directly affected by this terrible conflict, but when it comes to US involvement and the potential motivation behind the advocacy of many of these plainly hawkish figures, it's something that is worth keeping an eye on, would you agree?

00:40:48.000 A war with Iran will likely worsen these conditions.

00:40:51.000 Especially the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz in the Gulf.

00:40:54.000 In fact, American public opinion is against more wars, which is why both the Biden and Trump administrations promised to end endless war, in what has become a popular catchphrase in US political discourse.

00:41:06.000 It's curious to watch Biden claiming that he advocates for global peace and will do anything he can and the reason he should run as president in 2024 is because imagine, imagine we could bring about world peace, bring a peaceful conclusion to the Russia-Ukraine conflict and bring about peace in the Middle East.

00:41:21.000 It doesn't seem that the actions, policy and funding, broadly speaking, are heading in the direction of peace or ending endless wars, does it?

00:41:29.000 And I suppose such promises have to be taken in light of the fact that America is the largest military supplier in the world, providing weaponry for over 50% of the world's autocratic nations.

00:41:41.000 Weapons that could, and some argue have, ended up in the hands of terror organisations and drug cartels.

00:41:47.000 Even in a war effort that Americans support, like Ukraine, the majority do not want the US to risk war with Russia.

00:41:55.000 And it appears that opinion is changing on that issue.

00:41:58.000 Is that why, do you imagine, that the current conflict in the Middle East is being bundled together with that less popular conflict, which is less popular not because of humanitarian reasons, not because of a lack of compassion, but the observable evidence that the approach is not working, that the counter-offensive failed.

00:42:15.000 That many people are beginning to question what the motivations for funding that war are, and many people are also questioning how that war began.

00:42:22.000 This is not surprising, given the failures of US militarism.

00:42:26.000 Most notably, the swift takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban after 20 years of war, and the enormous cost of these conflicts to American taxpayers as many struggle at home.

00:42:36.000 Julian Assange famously said that you understand why the Afghanistan war went on for so long when you recognize that it wasn't a war that they wanted to end, it was a war that they wanted to sustain and that the function of such wars is to take money from public hands and to put them into the hands of private companies.

00:42:52.000 And we can see that trillions has subsequently gone from American taxpayers pockets into the military-industrial complex.

00:42:57.000 This is not about supporting the troops or ensuring that the American military are well supported as they conduct selfless, dangerous, potentially lethal work on the behalf of patriotism, but ultimately ends up being profitable to military-industrial complex partners of the Pentagon who notably cannot pass an audit.

00:43:15.000 That means it's not possible for them to account for their expenditure or their profiting.

00:43:19.000 And as you know, some people have contested that up to 70% of weaponry intended for Ukraine End it up elsewhere.

00:43:25.000 A war with Iran, a country with a larger population than Iraq and Afghanistan combined and a stronger position in the region in the wake of US wars would be another historic blunder with far worse outcomes than we have already seen.

00:43:40.000 No sensible person would comment on Israel's position and potential appetite for ongoing conflict after these horrific attacks.

00:43:46.000 It would seem insensitive to do so.

00:43:48.000 But US involvement in a war with Iran and escalation of these tensions has to be scrutinized.

00:43:54.000 And in particular, the motivations would have to be understood.

00:43:56.000 You'd have to be certain that the motivation was humanitarianism, solidarity, righteousness.

00:44:01.000 And if there were questions about those motivations, it would certainly be prudent, I would think, to ask them.

00:44:06.000 Any such war would be a calamity, further destabilising oil prices and adding to the economic havoc from the war in Ukraine that's already caused much secondary human suffering, while potentially creating the conditions for a much bigger and more dangerous confrontation.

00:44:19.000 Iran's deepening alliance with with Russia, after all, could draw Moscow into the war,

00:44:23.000 turning the country into the second front of a global proxy battle between two nuclear

00:44:28.000 superpowers, the United States and Russia. These certainly seem like considerations that

00:44:33.000 are worth discussing and understanding.

00:44:35.000 That's why I think the rhetoric of politicians like Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley has to

00:44:39.000 be scrutinised. As I understand, these are not people that are personally affected by

00:44:43.000 a horrific conflict, they are people that potentially have motivations beyond the deep

00:44:49.000 grief and suffering that that region is defined by.

00:44:52.000 We're not nearly there yet, but it's incumbent on all peace-loving people in the United States to work now proactively to stop this scenario coming to pass.

00:45:00.000 Not just to ensure the past year's rhetoric about illegal wars, imperialism, human rights and international law isn't mere hollow cynical posturing, but to prevent even more needless death and suffering.

00:45:12.000 Knowing what we know about the agenda of many people in Congress right now, their investment in stocks and shares that will benefit from escalating wars.

00:45:21.000 Acknowledge that war with Iran appears to have been part of an agenda in the United States neocon circles for some time.

00:45:28.000 It seems to me that circumspection and awareness for those of us that are not directly involved in this horrific conflict is a necessity.

00:45:35.000 There is a real distinction between what people of Israel are having to confront and face right now and the potential decisions made by people Who appear to talk about this in purely economic terms.

00:45:46.000 And whilst economy continues to be a consideration when geopolitical resource-based wars continue to escalate, potentially on numerous fronts, for many of us it would seem that other considerations ought be brought to the forefront.

00:46:00.000 In short, can we trust the rhetoric of many of these US politicians whose motivations may not be entirely clear?

00:46:08.000 What is the best way for us as a global community to support the people most directly affected by this escalating conflict?

00:46:15.000 Certainly, the ongoing attempt to put the Russia-Ukraine war, the China-US conflict and current Middle Eastern matters into one economic bundle when it comes to military aid and foreign policy decisions appears to be irresponsible when there are so many distinct, discreet and difficult considerations to be undertaken.

00:46:35.000 But that's just what I think.

00:46:36.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the chat?

00:46:38.000 See you in a second.

00:46:39.000 Thanks for using Fox News.

00:46:41.000 Here's the deal.

00:46:42.000 No, here's the fucking deal.

00:46:45.000 Thanks for your contributions in the chat and it remains an incredibly complex issue to discuss.

00:46:53.000 We're going to leave YouTube now and continue our discussions exclusively on Rumble.

00:47:01.000 I suppose one of the reasons this escalating conflict has to be considered very carefully is because of the events learned in recent history and in particular the post 9-11 period.

00:47:14.000 Ted Walter is going to join me now.

00:47:15.000 He's the director of the International Centre for 9-11 Justice and the documentary maker behind Peace, War and 9-11, which is available actually on Rumble now.

00:47:24.000 So if you're watching this on YouTube, click the link in the description and join us over there.

00:47:29.000 Ted, thank you so Thanks so much for joining me for this conversation today.

00:47:33.000 Sorry for keeping you waiting.

00:47:36.000 Well, thanks so much for having me, Russell.

00:47:37.000 It's wonderful to be with you, and I don't mind the wait.

00:47:41.000 Oh, you're lovely to say that.

00:47:42.000 Thank you.

00:47:43.000 Mate, 9-11, like by any reckoning, any epochal and defining event, from a philosophical perspective, it almost created a new form of globalism, a new sense that the world was indeed one place.

00:47:59.000 It's an event of near biblical significance.

00:48:03.000 And even from the outset, it was one of those relatively unique events that became Taboo that created new categories of heresy that immediately seemed like there was something

00:48:23.000 Let's call it the legacy media narrative, although that's not a term any of us would have used then.

00:48:28.000 It seemed from the beginning that certain aspects of it didn't make sense, and perhaps that's a phenomena that will always occur when something ahistorical and unique takes place.

00:48:39.000 Or perhaps it's because events like this are often exploited, and sometimes In particular, with regard to 9-11, we're not told the absolute truth.

00:48:51.000 Certainly there seems to be a lot of conspiracy theories, but I would love to hear from you.

00:48:56.000 What aspects of this event do you feel confident in discussing that are not the kind of more Ah, extravagant, or flamboyant, or sometimes oddly insensitive stories that you sometimes hear around this event, but seem to you to be somewhat verifiable.

00:49:15.000 One of the moments, when I first got involved in, let's say, anti-establishment rhetoric, like a few years ago, ten years, I don't know, I went on like a British news show after I'd said publicly, there's no point voting, both parties are the same, they're ultimately funded in the same way, and in fact the system is designed to prevent anything like democracy taking place, said it a few years ago, Okay, no one that I grew up with votes.

00:49:36.000 Everybody sees it as kind of pointless and as a charade and it's almost a class thing, I indicated.

00:49:41.000 On one of these shows when the BBC just went out of their way to destroy and annihilate

00:49:46.000 me because of this modern day heresy, the one area where I really fell into one of the

00:49:52.000 traps that clearly exist in these kind of legacy media spaces was when I was asked about

00:49:56.000 9-11.

00:49:57.000 Someone says, so do you believe that 9-11 was a conspiracy theory?

00:50:01.000 And I feel I said something like, I don't trust the American government.

00:50:04.000 And that became like for a long time an avenue of attack.

00:50:08.000 Russell Brand, the conspiracy theorist, believes 9-11.

00:50:11.000 So can you tell us what people who don't trust the government but don't want to be labelled

00:50:16.000 conspiracy theorists can most point out as verifiable, reliable evidence that we were

00:50:21.000 not told the truth when it comes to 9-11?

00:50:24.000 And I know that perhaps building 7 might be a good place to start, even though I'm still

00:50:28.000 myself not sure if, you know, in hindsight whether all that stuff really happened.

00:50:34.000 Yeah, so Building 7 is a good place to start, Russell.

00:50:38.000 Partly, most people haven't seen it, most people don't know anything about it or can name it, so people don't have as sort of preconceived ideas about what may have happened to it.

00:50:50.000 It was a 47-story high-rise that collapsed in the afternoon of 9-11, 5-20 p.m., about seven hours after the Twin Towers came down.

00:50:57.000 And you can look at footage of it.

00:50:59.000 It's all over the internet.

00:51:00.000 It's on our website, ic911.org.

00:51:03.000 It comes straight down into its footprint.

00:51:05.000 at free fall acceleration symmetrically, and it begins to fall suddenly.

00:51:11.000 There's no transition.

00:51:14.000 It's just stationary, and then it drops like a bowling ball, right?

00:51:18.000 So, and it's immediately in free fall.

00:51:21.000 If that were a natural building collapse, it would start to tip over a little bit.

00:51:25.000 You would start to see some deformation on the outside of the building

00:51:29.000 of some of the columns on the inside were starting to fail.

00:51:32.000 But no, the building is completely motionless and then just drops at free fall.

00:51:36.000 And free fall means that there's zero resistance being provided by the lower structure, right?

00:51:42.000 If there were any resistance at all, it would slow down.

00:51:47.000 But for about two and a half seconds or about 100 feet, it's an absolute free fall

00:51:51.000 from the very beginning of its collapse.

00:51:53.000 So that's just the visual evidence.

00:51:56.000 And right there, it's kind of overwhelming that it was a controlled demolition.

00:51:59.000 It's overwhelmingly clear.

00:52:01.000 And most people who see it suspect that, that it is a demolition.

00:52:04.000 We've done studies on this.

00:52:05.000 We've done polls using YouGov, this online polling firm, where we've shown respondents to collapse from four different angles.

00:52:14.000 And we say, do you suspect that this was a controlled demolition, or do you suspect it was fires?

00:52:17.000 And we tell them that it happened on 9-11.

00:52:20.000 And majorities of, say, three to one Four to one.

00:52:23.000 Say, yeah, that looks like a controlled demolition.

00:52:25.000 I think that's a controlled demolition.

00:52:27.000 So really, you need overwhelming evidence that it's not a controlled demolition to conclude that it's not a controlled demolition.

00:52:34.000 And there's no evidence at all that it's not a controlled demolition.

00:52:37.000 All of the evidence points to the fact that it was a controlled demolition.

00:52:40.000 I can go on and on about it, but I think people should look out for themselves.

00:52:44.000 I've got loads of questions already. One is, what's the official explanation for what happened

00:52:48.000 to building seven? Why is there a BBC report that is collapsed when it's still visible in

00:52:52.000 the background? Even I've seen that. But also, from a skeptic's perspective, are we not able

00:52:58.000 to look at footage of controlled demolition and footage of buildings that have fallen down as a

00:53:04.000 result of fire or trauma or whatever, and therefore able to say, make visual comparisons?

00:53:12.000 Because I know that controlled definition is like, you know, with COVID, from COVID.

00:53:18.000 It's one of those phrases that The detractors will say, see?

00:53:23.000 See what they're talking about?

00:53:25.000 They're crackpots.

00:53:26.000 They're talking about the controlled demolition.

00:53:29.000 It's one of those phrases that's baggaged by detractors and let's call it mainstream thinkers.

00:53:37.000 That's what's utilized to make this kind of rhetoric look like crack pottery.

00:53:43.000 So there's a few things.

00:53:45.000 What's that BBC report?

00:53:46.000 What does it look like when a building goes down in trauma and is there sort of visual evidence for it

00:53:51.000 versus controlled demolition?

00:53:53.000 Even though to me, it makes sense that, yeah, all right, there's no resistance from beneath,

00:53:57.000 but I know for a, you know, but that belongs in that kind of rhetoric

00:54:00.000 that we're all familiar with.

00:54:01.000 Jet fuel wouldn't burn down a building, and what about those steel girders and all that stuff?

00:54:05.000 And, you know, and what about those war games?

00:54:07.000 And everything, all of us are sort of like kind of familiar with those things now,

00:54:11.000 but it's why, you know, God, once you start entertaining it,

00:54:15.000 you have to go into such mad territory that you almost have to do each step somewhat diligently.

00:54:19.000 Wouldn't you agree, Ted?

00:54:20.000 you Yes, absolutely.

00:54:23.000 So, as far as the BBC announcing that the building had collapsed 23 minutes before it actually did, that was sort of the tip of the iceberg of the foreknowledge that the building would come down.

00:54:35.000 Starting at around 11 in the morning, 11, 11.30, Officials with the New York City Office of Emergency Management and the FDNY started saying, started predicting that this building was going to come down.

00:54:47.000 And they were very certain about it.

00:54:49.000 They were issuing these warnings.

00:54:51.000 It wasn't like it might come down.

00:54:53.000 Maybe, like there was a lot of certainty to it.

00:54:57.000 And so from 1130 onwards, They suspended emergency operations and started pushing people back, and it just got more and more certain as the day went on.

00:55:09.000 It's impossible that anybody could look at a building and say, we know that that building is going to come down for sure, right?

00:55:18.000 There were other buildings in the area that were closer, that were much more damaged.

00:55:22.000 Building 7 did have some damage caused by the collapse of the North Tower, debris impacting it.

00:55:27.000 Some fires maybe started an hour later, but to hone in on Building 7 and say, we know that building's gonna collapse is very, very suspicious.

00:55:34.000 There's no reason to jump to that conclusion.

00:55:36.000 And then as the day goes on, they get more and more certain, they get pushing people back more and more, and the media starts reporting it.

00:55:42.000 So it wasn't just BBC.

00:55:44.000 CNN reported about an hour before the collapse, the building is collapsing or may collapse soon.

00:55:51.000 The local CBS affiliate, 30 seconds before the building comes down, on live television says we're getting word that the building may have just collapsed and then like you fast forward 30 seconds and they watch it happen live on on television right so that's all because the media is being told by officials at the scene that it's going to come down uh and then it actually comes down uh in the in you know the manner of a you know perfect controlled demolition

00:56:15.000 So it's just not... and then what really shows that that makes no sense is that you fast forward to later, a month later, you know, years later, New York Times is reporting that engineers are baffled by the collapse.

00:56:27.000 They can't explain it.

00:56:28.000 How did this 47-story high-rise that was not hit by a plane just collapse straight into its footprint?

00:56:34.000 You know, so, and, you know, fast forward to a year later, the first investigation that was done, they basically say, by FEMA, they say, we don't know, you know, the reason for the cause of this collapse remains unknown at this time.

00:56:49.000 You can even fast forward six years later, NIST, that was the main investigation, they said, this was in March of 2006, they said, we've had trouble getting a handle on Building 7.

00:56:59.000 We still have no idea why it came down.

00:57:01.000 And yet, on the day of 9-11, people were warning for hours that it was going to come down.

00:57:05.000 So that doesn't make any sense.

00:57:06.000 So the BBC is really a symptom, the BBC reporting it.

00:57:10.000 In my view, some people say, oh, they're just reading from a script.

00:57:12.000 Somebody's giving them a script and they read it too early.

00:57:16.000 To me, it's a symptom of that the officials at the scene knew that it was going to come down.

00:57:20.000 And the reason that they knew was because somebody knew that it was going to be brought down.

00:57:25.000 And they were, you know, they were putting out that message.

00:57:27.000 We got to get people away.

00:57:28.000 This building is going to come down because of fire or damage or whatever.

00:57:31.000 Now the official story that you asked about, what is the official explanation for the collapse?

00:57:35.000 It's actually changed over the years.

00:57:37.000 The initial theory was that it was diesel fuel, that there's diesel fuel tanks in the building that powered the emergency operations center on the 23rd floor for the city of New York.

00:57:49.000 And that fuel somehow pumped out of the tanks and big fires and brought the building down.

00:57:55.000 FEMA, that report I mentioned, the first report in the first year after 9-11, said this theory is a very low probability occurrence.

00:58:04.000 So, you know, we don't know, right?

00:58:06.000 They then moved on to structural damage.

00:58:10.000 from the collapse of the North Tower.

00:58:11.000 Maybe structural damage is the main reason it came down.

00:58:13.000 Finally, NIST, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, settled on just normal office fires.

00:58:19.000 That debris from the North Tower hit the building, started fires, and then those fires sort of traveled through the building throughout the course of the day, and eventually it came down.

00:58:29.000 So the debris, the structural damage didn't directly contribute, but it caused these fires, and it was just normal office fires, no diesel fuel whatsoever.

00:58:37.000 There's a lot of problems with that story.

00:58:39.000 One of the biggest problems is that the fire that was in the area where NIST says the collapse sequence initiated actually burnt out an hour and a half before the collapse occurred.

00:58:51.000 And so for this sequence of structural failures to actually have even a chance of taking place, The fires need to be burning actively and causing the structural members in that part of the building to expand, which is what NIST's theory is, is that it was thermal expansion of beams that are being heated, pushing this.

00:59:10.000 It's a very convoluted story.

00:59:12.000 For it to actually work, the fires need to be burning.

00:59:15.000 And there's photographic and video evidence that the fires were out in that area of the building an hour and a half before the collapse.

00:59:22.000 So that's one.

00:59:24.000 If you actually study step by step this very elaborate theory of NIST's theory.

00:59:30.000 Each step of the way, it's physically impossible.

00:59:32.000 Engineers and scientists have looked at each of these things and said, that failure can't happen, that thing can't happen, this can't happen.

00:59:41.000 So it's a very far-fetched story that every step of the way doesn't work.

00:59:46.000 And, you know, this is just one theory.

00:59:49.000 There's actually multiple.

00:59:50.000 There's four different fire-based theories for how the building came down.

00:59:54.000 NIST's theory, the official government theory, is just one of them.

00:59:57.000 There's a firm called Weidlinger that has their theory about how it came down.

01:00:01.000 There's a theory.

01:00:03.000 Arup and Guy Nordenson Associates has another theory.

01:00:07.000 And there's even a fourth theory that goes back to that idea that it was the diesel fuel.

01:00:12.000 So all of these people that all purport to agree that fire brought down the building,

01:00:17.000 they can't even settle on a theory that shows you that there's not actually any positive

01:00:21.000 evidence for any of these theories.

01:00:23.000 Otherwise they would have probably settled on a theory, but there's no actual evidence for NIST's theory.

01:00:28.000 There's no physical evidence, all the physical evidence was destroyed.

01:00:34.000 And so their theory, there's first trying to prove that it's even possible,

01:00:40.000 And then there's trying to prove that it happened.

01:00:42.000 They don't even get out of trying to prove that it's possible.

01:00:46.000 Because each step of the way, the chain reaction of structural failures that they allege can't have taken place.

01:00:54.000 And then I want to perhaps the most important thing to highlight is, you know, they say that ultimately this local structural failure has caused this one column to fail, right?

01:01:03.000 And that brought down the penthouse on the east side of the building, which Your viewers can look at it on our website.

01:01:11.000 The collapse, before the actual collapse, about 8 seconds before, the east penthouse on the top of the building drops into the building.

01:01:19.000 That was definitely caused by columns below the penthouse failing.

01:01:24.000 The question is, did they fail because of some sort of structural failure, or did they fail because they were taken out high up in the building?

01:01:33.000 NIST alleges that once that column failed, it created this chain reaction of column failures across the width of the building.

01:01:40.000 But if that was actually happening, if you had one column failing and then all the rest of the 81 columns in the building fail, you're going to start to see a massive amount of deformation.

01:01:50.000 Like all the columns on the inside, as they're failing, they're going to start pulling on the outside and you're going to see this deforming building.

01:01:56.000 And that's what their model shows.

01:01:58.000 Okay, okay.

01:01:59.000 Now, mate, we went deep there.

01:02:04.000 But, you know, this is what I would say, is when it comes to the sort of architectural, engineering aspects of the way buildings collapse under certain circumstances, there's no doubt that there are Legitimate questions, but it doesn't seem to be the thing that's going to move the needle on whether or not this is an event that was undertaken outside of the official narrative.

01:02:33.000 So let's go from something where we got sort of into some minutiae there into quite a macro argument.

01:02:39.000 I presume that what people who believe that 9-11 inverted commas was an inside job mean is 9-11 was conducted or at least permitted to happen as a result of a deep state agenda to legitimize foreign wars.

01:02:57.000 The question that always occurs to me, and I'm thinking about that, you know, when I sort of like, sort of think, like, I'm going to fully commit to just not, you know, listen, I'm on, but I don't trust the media.

01:03:05.000 I don't trust the state.

01:03:06.000 I don't trust the government.

01:03:07.000 Any bit of information they give me, my starting point, and this has served me well, as you can imagine, in the last few years is, this is probably a lie.

01:03:15.000 until there's evidence that it's not a lie, I will not comply with what's being proposed.

01:03:22.000 And that can be a very good guard against, for example, myocarditis.

01:03:27.000 Now, what I would say in this instance is, if the objective was to legitimize a bunch of foreign wars,

01:03:35.000 wouldn't it be pretty easy to sort of come up with a sort of footage of like,

01:03:40.000 and we, and just on the outskirts of Baghdad, we found these nuclear missiles that have plainly

01:03:46.000 been acquired from Chechenian rebels.

01:03:49.000 Like, there's so many ways without inflicting.

01:03:51.000 And I know there is documentation that said, you know, we need a Pearl Harbor to legitimize

01:03:56.000 the new American century and these wars against Syria and Afghanistan and, you know, Iraq and ultimately Iran,

01:04:03.000 countries that was on that list. But what, like, don't you feel that if the agenda

01:04:09.000 was to legitimize, like, wars against unfavorable nations, that there's a would

01:04:15.000 be a way of doing that that doesn't require so much complexity, so much risk,

01:04:21.000 so many questions, not to mention their loss of American life and their loss of

01:04:27.000 those buildings. Like, what, you need pretty robust evidence to get people over

01:04:34.000 that hurdle. Because, like, you know, if I was doing it, I'd go, why don't we just

01:04:38.000 create a bunch of footage that, like, here, look, here's these rebels outside

01:04:42.000 Baghdad. They've got all these guns and stuff.

01:04:44.000 They're planning this thing, but luckily we got ahead of it I mean that so much easier Yeah, so I think that in my mind, the goal was much bigger than just say, let's try to figure out how to start one war or another war.

01:05:05.000 You know, the Cold War had ended basically 10 years before that.

01:05:09.000 And for 50 years or so, you had this sort of carte blanche of You know, the U.S.

01:05:14.000 military-industrial complex, the war machine, the U.S.

01:05:18.000 empire, to go wherever it wanted, do whatever it wanted, right?

01:05:22.000 And that basically went away when the Cold War ended.

01:05:26.000 Yeah, there were certain wars that the U.S.

01:05:28.000 fought, limited, smaller wars in the Balkans, etc., but by and large, that was gone.

01:05:33.000 And the, you know, you mentioned it, the Project for a New American Century document, Rebuilding America's Defenses, said, In order to get the kind of change that we need, the military expansionism, technological innovation that we need, you know, short of a new Pearl Harbor, this is going to take a very long time, right?

01:05:52.000 So, and I think that's what they were looking for.

01:05:54.000 And so they were looking for, the people who did this, were looking for a new global conflict framework, right?

01:06:00.000 That would really just reorganize everything.

01:06:03.000 The way that, you know, international relations, you know, It worked, and that's what we saw happen.

01:06:11.000 You spoke to it at the beginning of this interview.

01:06:14.000 It was a turning point in our history, and it started a new era that not only enabled the invasion of Afghanistan, not only enabled the invasion of Iraq, but numerous countries.

01:06:27.000 Today, and I believe it's by the Cost of War Project at the Brown Institute, they talk about how 22 different military action And 22 different countries since 9-11 have been justified using the authorization for use of military force that was passed just three days after 9-11, right?

01:06:46.000 So they were looking to create a new paradigm, you know, which I think that they succeeded, you know, wildly at doing.

01:06:55.000 And I think I've asked myself why, you know, What about just planes hitting the buildings?

01:07:00.000 Wouldn't that have been enough, right?

01:07:02.000 That's pretty shocking, right?

01:07:04.000 I can't get inside the minds of the people who planned this, but somewhere along the line they apparently calculated that they wanted a bigger shock and awe effect than just that.

01:07:19.000 And indeed, the buildings coming down and killing thousands of people and the horror of that really brought it to a new level.

01:07:26.000 I think it really, if you imagine kind of what would have happened in 9-11 if that hadn't happened, the shock of it probably isn't as deep, probably isn't as traumatizing, and probably isn't as long-lasting.

01:07:38.000 You might have other interests that are converging as well.

01:07:41.000 You know, the Port Authority, and then Larry Silverstein, who, you know, entered into a 99-year lease, Silverstein Properties, you know, a few months before 9-11, you know, they were going to have to spend billions of dollars dealing with asbestos abatement in the building.

01:07:56.000 Uh, and so maybe you have a real estate motive and insurance motive to bring down the building as well, but that's really probably secondary to the the shock and awe.

01:08:04.000 I can see why you believe that and it's obviously commendable your integrity and the level of endeavor.

01:08:10.000 I suppose my personal challenge is if this is true it's... I heard this analysis once from the black academic Kehinde Andrews who's a professor of black studies in a university over here in the UK.

01:08:31.000 And it's a common analysis, really, of the problems of, say, slavery and colonialism.

01:08:37.000 He says, if you were to evaluate the problems and the grief and the suffering caused by slavery, and in addition, the economic power accrued as a direct result of it, you would not be able to have financial retribution Without actually dismantling the United States and the United Kingdom.

01:09:05.000 And if you sort of think about it a little bit, even a country like ours, which has a different history, shameful, but distinct from, you know, America plainly, but you think, oh my God, yeah, Bristol, Liverpool, the docking colonialism, the subsequent industries around it.

01:09:17.000 If you start to think, and, you know, of course, I know there are a lot of arguments about where would the, who are you giving this money to?

01:09:23.000 There's all sorts of counter arguments.

01:09:24.000 And I'm, you know, it's not an issue I claim to be an expert in.

01:09:27.000 I mentioned this analysis only in this context.

01:09:30.000 If that is true, if 9-11 is basically really anything other than these nutty guys from Saudi Arabia or wherever they're from got hold of some planes as a result of a plan engineered by Osama Bin Laden and a bunch of other al-Qaeda guys trained by the CIA, we're naming them Mujahideen, and then, you know, it's all gone awry and it's terrible and it's basically the mainstream version of events, is it anything other than that?

01:10:00.000 It's like, what justice could be meted out to whom and by whom?

01:10:08.000 Because it's an indication of such systemic failure and of such potential conspiracy at depth that you in the end Have to dismantle this entirety.

01:10:21.000 It's beyond military-industrial complex.

01:10:24.000 It's media.

01:10:25.000 It becomes like, oh no, the whole system's... And now a lot of people, and I guess I'm probably among them, believe that sort of is the case anyway.

01:10:33.000 Like, you know, regardless of what the analysis of this particular issue is, I am at the point where I'm like, oh, democracy's not really real.

01:10:40.000 The media just amplifies the message of the powerful, the military-industrial complex, and big pharma.

01:10:44.000 Dictate American health and foreign policy, respectively.

01:10:49.000 You know, that's sort of where I am, but in a sort of, I suppose, a much more modest and muted way, based on, like, in a way, the reporting of credible and great people like Michael Schellenberger over here, Barry Weiss over there, Glenn Greenwald over here, Matt Tybee over there, bit of Noam Chomsky.

01:11:09.000 They're all sort of like, oh yeah, I don't know, it's plainly, totally correct.

01:11:12.000 You know, and then in this new emergent landscape, we were able to have these conversations.

01:11:16.000 But this one, I suppose, yeah, it's like, what comes down with those towers is the idea that you can ever trust again.

01:11:24.000 And the reckoning that would have to follow such a revelation were it one reliably able to be made and demonstrated to be true.

01:11:35.000 Is the kind of revolution that I somewhat glibly talk about, Ted.

01:11:38.000 And I suppose what it makes me think about is, like, when I say all this stuff, like, you can't trust establishment, you can't trust the media, you can't trust government, where do you go in the end?

01:11:47.000 In the end, you have to start saying, oh, no, we can't live in this world.

01:11:51.000 We're all in really grave and serious danger.

01:11:55.000 And it's, you know, getting worse.

01:11:57.000 So my cynicism is not like a sort of a disrespectful cynicism.

01:12:00.000 It's just a Listen, if you're going to start saying stuff like this, man, what are the consequences?

01:12:07.000 Where does this end?

01:12:08.000 Because it's not just, and now in court, these few people, it's like, where do you go with that?

01:12:14.000 It's inconceivable almost.

01:12:18.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess I would say, in my view, I think that you are absolutely right.

01:12:25.000 But it leads to exactly the revolution that I think you talk about, that you hope for.

01:12:32.000 You talk about wanting the dismantling of The current media infrastructure, the dismantling of institutions that nobody trusts anymore, and the dismantling of governments and reforming them that are actually responsive to the people and that work in the best interests of the people and not the elites and not these mass corporations.

01:12:55.000 So 9-11 just exposes, I guess on a deeper level, the existence of that.

01:13:03.000 I think it's really not that different.

01:13:06.000 It's just 9-11 sort of raises the urgency of it, if indeed it was a false flag.

01:13:12.000 And I think it's possible.

01:13:14.000 That's why I do it.

01:13:16.000 I'm incredibly optimistic, very forward-looking.

01:13:20.000 And I believe that it is possible.

01:13:24.000 I truly believe that it is possible to fundamentally reshape the world that we live in.

01:13:30.000 For me, 9-11 is sort of the most direct path to doing that.

01:13:37.000 To me, people that sort of jump, take the leap of faith and dedicate their lives to exposing the truth about 9-11, I have deep, obviously I'm talking about myself, but all the people out there, a deep respect for it.

01:13:50.000 Respect for me?

01:13:54.000 But all the people out there, despite the marginalization, despite the stigmatization, who've dedicated themselves to this, they did it because they had hope.

01:14:03.000 At least at some point, maybe they've lost their hope.

01:14:05.000 They did it because they had hope.

01:14:06.000 They did it because they believed that it was possible to create a better world, right?

01:14:11.000 Where the machinery that brought us 9-11 would no longer exist.

01:14:16.000 And so I believe that's possible.

01:14:17.000 And I would love to see the journalists, the amazing journalists that you just referenced, For them to move beyond the taboo, remove the blinders.

01:14:29.000 They do a lot of good work, but many of them do have blinders on when it comes to 9-11.

01:14:35.000 And I think that we're in this current era with this new generation of independent media that we have.

01:14:42.000 I really believe that it's possible.

01:14:45.000 Um, so and I thank you for entertaining this discussion and and for being honest about your, your sort of your doubts or your your reluctance.

01:14:53.000 Um, but the evidence is right there in front of in front of you in front of all of us of what really happened to those buildings.

01:14:59.000 In a way, the reluctance is a kind of sort of as well as like I would like evidence where someone go look at that.

01:15:05.000 Now, look, shut up.

01:15:06.000 You know, that's, you know, that's what I basically want rather than so like you say, it's very easy to obfuscate with expertise.

01:15:14.000 And Dissembling some like the architectural and engineering arguments is he it's easy to you know I've not seen anyone go no absolutely this is what happens look at this time a plane hit a bill you know it's very difficult thing because it's sort of comparatively unique to demonstrate

01:15:30.000 either in an absolute way, either way.

01:15:33.000 My reluctance in a sense is not because I'm not open-minded, because of course I am open-minded,

01:15:38.000 hopefully not so open-minded my mind falls out altogether, as some people say.

01:15:42.000 But it's just that I find this in a variety of subjects that you get so like, you get so clut,

01:15:48.000 you reach a point where you think, oh my God, this is actually all true.

01:15:54.000 This isn't just a job I do where I'm on Rumble talking about conspiracy theories and establishment narratives, legacy, corruption, all of the, you know, the endless list that our viewers, our community.

01:16:06.000 are familiar with, it's in the end takes you to a place where like individual despair across

01:16:11.000 the world, geopolitical disasters, escalating war, global corruption, spiritual despair,

01:16:19.000 cultural breakdown and nihilism, it's actually real.

01:16:24.000 It's not like just like commentating on soccer or ice skating.

01:16:29.000 It's that you're having to at some point go, well, then we have to do something like what are we going to do?

01:16:34.000 have to step outside of this system and organise some kind of global resistance movement, which

01:16:39.000 to some degree appears to be organically happening anyway, and not entirely organically, because

01:16:44.000 as you say, there are people like you that have dedicated your life to trying to research

01:16:48.000 and understand an extremely complex and, as you've said yourself, taboo area.

01:16:53.000 So yeah, the reluctance is the right word, because in the end, if this is true, then

01:16:58.000 now where are we? It's like that, isn't it? It's like, where do you go to once you've

01:17:03.000 got this? Because this is, in a sense, how deep is it in our psyche, the idea of nation?

01:17:09.000 When people talk about patriarchy in a contemporary context in a pejorative fashion, they perhaps

01:17:14.000 forget that even when railing against the system, we sort of see ourselves as embedded

01:17:19.000 within it, because what other self-conception could we have?

01:17:23.000 You're not sort of discussing this from in a crystal pyramid with your head shaved, you know, with a serpent in each hand.

01:17:30.000 You look like a pretty regular guy, but what you're talking about is you cannot trust anything.

01:17:37.000 It's that, you know, it's that significant really.

01:17:42.000 Yeah, that's pretty much it.

01:17:43.000 I want to be able to trust things.

01:17:45.000 I believe it's possible to have institutions that we can trust, that act in the best interest of the population.

01:17:56.000 As I just said, you speak to these things about tearing it all down, about having a revolution, that we have to completely dismantle the media, infrastructure that exists around us now.

01:18:08.000 And it couldn't be truer.

01:18:09.000 9-11 exposes that, in my view.

01:18:11.000 9-11 exposes that more than anything else.

01:18:15.000 I want to point to one thing that we're working on, the International Center for 9-11 Justice, which is supporting a family in the UK, the family of Jeff Campbell, who died on 9-11.

01:18:26.000 He was in the North Tower when it was demolished.

01:18:30.000 His family, his remains were repatriated to the UK over several years, and finally an inquest was held in 2013.

01:18:38.000 An inquest, you're probably familiar with inquests because you live there, but they're held anytime there's an unnatural death, to establish the cause of death.

01:18:48.000 And so there's, back in 2013 an inquest was held for 10 British 9-11 victims.

01:18:53.000 Whose remains have been repatriated.

01:18:55.000 And now the Campbell family, led by Jeff's brother Matt, is trying to open a new inquest into how Jeff died.

01:19:05.000 Because the official conclusion from 2013 is that the airplane caused the building to collapse.

01:19:11.000 And so they're challenging that.

01:19:13.000 And they're bringing forth an enormous amount of evidence, 2,500 pages of evidence, that was submitted to the Attorney General for England and Wales two years ago.

01:19:22.000 Uh, showing that it was a controlled demolition.

01:19:24.000 And so we have expert witness statements.

01:19:26.000 We have witness statements from five eyewitnesses who were there, four of them first responders, who witnessed explosions, you know, who were inside or near the towers, who are standing by ready to testify at the new inquest.

01:19:40.000 The Attorney General finally, after almost two years, in June of this year, responded denying the family's application.

01:19:47.000 And then the family was going to seek judicial review of that denial because it was unlawful and irrational.

01:19:54.000 And they wrote the Attorney General two weeks before the deadline to seek judicial review.

01:19:59.000 And the Attorney General came back and withdrew her decision to deny the application because of the arguments that we put forth showing that her decision was unlawful and irrational.

01:20:10.000 And so now we're awaiting a new decision in the Attorney General.

01:20:13.000 Basically, there's one more hoop to jump through, which is at the high court, but we're waiting for a decision from the Attorney General, which will basically green light a new inquest into the death of Jeff Campbell, where the family of Jeff Campbell will show in their barrister, Nick Standage, will And our organization will present evidence that the North Tower was in fact demolished with explosives and incendiaries.

01:20:34.000 And hopefully that's one strategy among many, but that could be quite a catalyst if that goes the way that it should.

01:20:42.000 Their case for opening the new inquest is overwhelmingly a slam dunk.

01:20:47.000 They easily meet the threshold for the new inquest to be reopened.

01:20:52.000 That sounds fascinating, and the testimony of the first responders, that's pretty moving.

01:20:57.000 Bring that higher up on your list next time you're confronted with a cynic.

01:21:02.000 But also though, what, Ted, in the event of OK controlled demolition, when are these explosives being placed in the building?

01:21:15.000 Yeah, in the weeks and months before 9-11.

01:21:20.000 First of all, there's a couple of companies that were involved in the security of the World Trade Center that are very suspicious.

01:21:26.000 One of them was called Stratasec.

01:21:28.000 George W. Bush's brother sat on the board of Stratasec, and there were two very interesting individuals that ran the company, Wirt Walker and Barry McDaniel.

01:21:41.000 um and uh who basically came from a intelligence background um and um you know another one called Kroll Associates uh and then you know there's there was an elevator modernization project that was going on I don't know in the year or so before before 9-11 uh by a company called Ace Elevator which very not long after 9-11 became defunct um and so that You know, that very likely, in my view, or very possibly, at least, something that we should investigate was the means to place the explosives in the towers.

01:22:16.000 In Building 7, you had multiple U.S.

01:22:19.000 intelligence agencies or law enforcement agencies, the FBI, the CIA, Secret Service, You had the Emergency Operations Center for the Office of Emergency Management of New York City on the 23rd floor of Building 7.

01:22:31.000 You also had the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is possibly a motive for bringing down Building 7.

01:22:36.000 Although, in my view, the motive is not clear.

01:22:39.000 Nobody has sort of a definitive answer on why Building 7, the most logical explanation for why Building 7 was brought down.

01:22:46.000 So you had agencies in Building 7 who probably could have facilitated the placement of explosives and incendiaries in that building.

01:22:55.000 And you had many companies as well that were in the towers that could have, you know, particularly in the impact floors where companies with executives that have long-standing connections to intelligence agencies that are really a part of the deep state, when we talk about the deep state.

01:23:14.000 So yeah, in the weeks and months leading up to 9-11 would be my best guess.

01:23:19.000 Mate, Ted, thank you.

01:23:21.000 Thank you.

01:23:22.000 It's one of those conversations where I think, oh no, I've got to go home now, talk to my children.

01:23:26.000 It's going to be insane.

01:23:28.000 I have a three-year-old daughter.

01:23:29.000 I have a three-year-old daughter and I managed to do it.

01:23:32.000 I think we can all face this very dark issue and actually start to see it in a very positive light of the potential that it offers To completely reshape our world.

01:23:44.000 I want to make one plug for the film that you mentioned at the beginning, Peace War 9-11.

01:23:49.000 It's an interview with one of the foremost researchers, scholars in the 9-11 truth movement named Graham McQueen, who passed away In April of this year, he was a professor of religious studies and peace studies in Canada, and I interviewed him last fall when we knew that he was going to die soon.

01:24:09.000 Incredibly powerful documentary, and really lays out, it's as much an anti-war documentary, an anti-war film, as it is a 9-11 film.

01:24:17.000 And that really lays out kind of what 9-11 was all about, how it was intended to launch the war on terror, And it also goes into the anthrax attacks, which followed very shortly after 9-11, and shows how the anthrax attacks were clearly the second part of that operation by the U.S.

01:24:38.000 Deep State Intelligence Apparatus, etc.

01:24:40.000 But those pathogens that were sent in the envelopes to the anthrax were clearly manufactured in U.S.

01:24:45.000 laboratories, which is acknowledged, but it Again, they used the Lone Wolf story.

01:24:49.000 One guy, Bruce Ivins, who actually we know now could not have produced that anthrax, those anthrax spores.

01:24:56.000 So check out that film, 2.9.11.

01:24:58.000 It's on Redacted, on Rumble.

01:25:01.000 It's very moving.

01:25:02.000 And I think initiatives like that film, and you talking about it, really have the potential to bring this issue into the spotlight where it needs to be.

01:25:11.000 Brilliant, Ted.

01:25:12.000 I'm going to watch it.

01:25:14.000 Thanks for coming on.

01:25:15.000 We'll post the link to that film right now in the chat.

01:25:19.000 And thank you, Ted.

01:25:20.000 Thanks for your time.

01:25:21.000 Thanks for your expertise.

01:25:21.000 And I hope we get to talk again.

01:25:24.000 I hope so as well.

01:25:25.000 Thank you, Russell.

01:25:26.000 Lots of love.

01:25:26.000 Thank you, Ted.

01:25:27.000 Well, there you are.

01:25:28.000 Let me know what you thought about that conversation and what else you would like to learn and where it's left you emotionally, what it means even to contemplate such an extraordinary and enormous issue.

01:25:40.000 How do you reshape even your understanding of America, of history, of war?

01:25:43.000 It's just a baffling thing to allow into your heart, isn't it?

01:25:47.000 We're talking to Will Harris tomorrow, a farmer who we've had on here before.

01:25:52.000 He's called White Oaks Farm.

01:25:53.000 I mean, this guy is amazing.

01:25:54.000 He's so fantastic.

01:25:55.000 We first saw him on Fox News dazzling people with his kind of... he's kind of a philosopher of the South.

01:26:02.000 He's talking about food decentralization.

01:26:04.000 This dude ain't vegan, let me tell you that.

01:26:07.000 But he's fascinating and he's an important voice when it comes to agriculture, I would say.

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