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00:02:35.000We'll be with you on YouTube for 15 minutes before me and George Janko get right into it in Christianity.
00:02:41.000Since becoming Christian, I've gotten a lot of ire and a lot of flack from the same legacy media institutions and interests that want to bring down any dissenting voice and don't want any of us to become awakened and powerful, potent opponents of their disgusting project of damnation.
00:02:55.000Me and George Janko talk about that but George Janko has been a Christian all
00:02:58.000his life. He grew up Christian, you might know him because he was part of Impulsive with
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00:03:18.000George Janko. So I was dealing with with something. For those of you guys that don't know what
00:03:26.000I was going through his Bible because I Like to determine which Bible I have to make sure that they don't take out important things and I was reading out of a Bible verse It's in Matthew 17, and it should be 21.
00:05:17.000And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief, for verily I say unto you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence the yonder place, and it shall remove, and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
00:05:30.000Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
00:05:38.000Imagine why the enemy would take that part out.
00:05:41.000Imagine describing that you could, with the faith, could have, like you could have a mustard seed of faith and you could tell a mountain to leave.
00:05:47.000But imagine taking out the importance of prayer and fasting.
00:05:52.000When you dive into the terms of fasting, like, the first time I actually took fasting seriously, I realized how big of a piece of crap I am.
00:06:00.000Because when I was angry and tired and exhausted, I was angry and I wasn't acting Christ-like.
00:06:06.000Are we only good people because we're satisfied of what our surroundings are and what we eat and how we move and how we talk?
00:06:11.000I love that because right now I'm a little bit tired.
00:06:16.000You know, and I sort of feel that, like, that it don't take too much, like, for my conditions to alter before I become, like, I have to recognize how conditional my good grace is and my will is.
00:06:29.000And I also like that you're pointing out, actually, discipline is what you're pointing out, and discipleship, you know.
00:06:38.000One of the things I'm sort of interested in incorporating into my new life as a Christian is some of the sort of practices that I learned while pursuing kind of new age practice, I suppose you'd have to call it.
00:06:51.000For example, I do like a lot of breath work and a lot of that kind of stuff.
00:07:11.000So, like, this particular point, and the fact that you sort of have noticed that people take it out of the Bible.
00:07:18.000Like, you've read translations, I'm guessing, and you're like, hey, where's that bit?
00:07:21.000And actually what it's pretty specifically outlining is this is a practice.
00:07:28.000This isn't just like, as long as you cross your fingers and wish hard enough, Then one day the mountains will move.
00:07:33.000It's essentially saying if you devote yourself and dedicate yourself and deny yourself stimulation and even nutrition, then a power will come unto you that's previously inaccessible.
00:07:44.000I think that's really interesting and it's like, you know, look, when we were having our conversation a moment ago in your podcast, which I can't tell you how much I enjoyed and how beautiful it is to be in the light of you and your partner.
00:08:16.000And in your energy and in your enthusiasm, because there are points where I feel bright jaded,
00:08:22.000So it's interesting that that's come up now.
00:08:23.000But anyway, in our conversation, when I was talking about Luke 10.18, and like, I saw Satan fall from heaven, the thing that grabs me about that, mate, is the idea that Christ is present at the point when Satan falls, when the phenomena of individualism occurs.
00:08:38.000And that too, though, is a passage about The apostles or disciples will have just, they've just come back that time from having been casting out demons, and they're enthusiastic, and they go, we did it!
00:08:48.000We've been throwing out the demons, all 72 of them, not just even the 12.
00:08:51.00072 of them coming back, we've been throwing... As long as you remember that you can move among serpents and scorpions...
00:08:56.000When it's because your name is written in heaven not because of stuff you're doing so and this practice here
00:09:02.000that you're outlining of Fasting and prayer they're both sort of kind of forms of
00:09:08.000submission in a sense Would you say always and tell me like it is that's like an
00:09:12.000and like I mentioned myself because I'm bang into Breath work, and I've done a lot of meditation all of these
00:09:18.000new age things on the way to Christianity
00:09:21.000What do you think about those Christian practices like fasting and do you think there are other esoteric practices that fit within Christianity?
00:09:30.000For example, breathwork and forms of meditation.
00:09:35.000So if that's the case, then we're all doing something wrong.
00:09:38.000I take from all types of religions, I just make sure that I worship the right God.
00:09:43.000Because their practice might not be wrong.
00:09:45.000They might be honoring God, and we might be disrespecting God, but thinking we're honoring God.
00:09:50.000So I try to not think that I know it all, because every day that I read a passage of the Bible, It correlates so much of what Jesus is saying in some form of other religion.
00:10:00.000And the way I see it is, you see how many doors there is here?
00:10:05.000Well, the devil's trick is just one weapon.
00:10:07.000It's deception and separation and lies.
00:10:10.000So, he falsely puts doors so you choose those doors.
00:10:15.000So, as mankind, if I wanted multiple wives, then I'd suit myself into a religion that I could have multiple wives.
00:10:21.000But that doesn't mean that their religion has things that God's not pleased with.
00:10:24.000So, my idea is, I can't be a hypocrite, and I could learn from my neighbor, and how they worship, and how they please their Lord.
00:10:32.000But that doesn't mean that all of their traditions are right.
00:10:36.000I grew up in a home where we worship Jesus, but we also did a lot of traditions.
00:10:40.000So I was just kind of like, when I started reading the gospel for myself, I was like, whoa, we shouldn't be doing this, yet we still do this.
00:11:09.000We believe he's God and blah, blah, blah.
00:11:11.000But then I always sat there and I'm like, you know what, God, if, if you're here among us, I go, it's either I'm going in the corrected path or they are, or maybe they have some good things.
00:11:22.000I go be with me here and have a conversation and open up the eyes and ears to the ones that are closed.
00:11:27.000And when I sat there with them, I actually learned a lot from them.
00:11:30.000Now that doesn't mean I have to believe that Jesus isn't God.
00:11:35.000But the way that they practiced, if it was God, was like a good takeaway from it.
00:11:40.000And I liked how, when they were speaking to me, they only brought up the Gospel.
00:11:43.000They didn't speak from their own mouth.
00:11:45.000And I think a lot of Christians want to speak as their God's translator.
00:11:48.000Like, you should do like this for fasting.
00:11:50.000But it's like, well, what does the Bible say?
00:11:52.000But the one that they were judging, the Jehovah's Witness over here, would know, and they would be able to kindly explain to you.
00:11:58.000So I try not to shut off anybody's intelligence, because it might be something I'm thirsty for.
00:12:02.000Yeah, that's really beautiful and it sort of suggests a kind of hierarchy of principles.
00:12:06.000And I feel that love is surely the highest principle.
00:12:14.000And some of the conversations I've been having, because we're meeting of course at the Republican National Convention, And Christianity is ubiquitously available here.
00:12:25.000Christianity seems that it's absolutely parallel to and practiced alongside Republicanism.
00:12:34.000But I notice a tendency, it seems, in individuals.
00:12:38.000I'm not saying this is unique to Republicans, it just happens to be the context that I'm in right now.
00:12:43.000to, as you have just described, George, utilize Scripture in order to practice judgment.
00:12:51.000And I'm sure that we're all culpable of that in myriad ways.
00:12:56.000But if you're trying to work out, what should I be doing if there is conflict?
00:13:00.000It seems that what you ultimately went for there is compassion and good faith.
00:13:05.000You know, because there are so many cultural conversations at the moment that seem pretty complex and can get quite condemnatory.
00:13:11.000People, for example, in the cultural war talk a lot about gender, and I'm mentioning it just because of an experience I had earlier today where Christianity was very much sort of in the atmosphere.
00:13:21.000We're talking about Christ and Christianity and compassion.
00:13:24.000But there's a lot of fervour around condemning people that are trans and all that.
00:13:30.000I know, like, of course you can point to things in the Bible that indicate sort of principles around sexuality and principles around sex.
00:13:52.000How do you think that plays out in the culture, George?
00:13:54.000Well, my opinion doesn't matter, it's what Jesus' opinion matters.
00:13:56.000So when I read the scripture and it says, how you measure others is how I'll measure you, that scared the life out of me.
00:14:03.000So I better be very forgiving, as my Father is forgiving of me.
00:14:07.000And when they beat him, and they demolished him, they spit on him, and they pulled his hair, and they disrespected him, and then one of the thieves on the cross goes, get down!
00:14:17.000With the power of smiting everybody and the one breath he uses as he exhausts it out of his mouth is, forgive them father for they do not know.
00:14:27.000And I think what we like to do is read the gospel and be like, I'm David, I'm after God's heart, or I'm just like Jesus, or I'm just like Moses, but the truth is I'm the pagan Roman that hates Jesus.
00:14:37.000And so the best place that I know is that I'm unwise, I do not know, and I need salvation.
00:14:43.000So if I need all three of these, why am I not giving it to my neighbors?
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00:16:36.000Yeah, that's a good place to start, isn't it?
00:16:38.000And I suppose that might... the challenges that I'm describing might come when spirituality gets conflated with political power, but it's quite difficult, I think, when you're dealing with God.
00:17:25.000Culturally it comes from Christianity.
00:17:27.000Bill W., the founder, was a Christian.
00:17:30.000It's sort of... and one might imagine that originally it was Jesus and like they Tweaked it for whatever cultural reasons or whatever challenges they were dealing with when they were putting it together.
00:17:45.000The thing that is relevant to me is that the 12 Steps is an invitation, George, to live, to make yourself ready to receive the message from God.
00:18:06.000It took me a long time to realize, if someone told me to turn up at 7 to score, that's a colloquialism that used to be relevant when I was a young man, like to score drugs.
00:18:18.000Like, I would turn up, and if the drug dealer was late, I would wait.
00:18:23.000And if the gear I got, there's another colloquialism, was not good gear, I would still go back to that.
00:18:29.000I had a lot of faith, and I had a lot of devotion, and a lot of dedication.
00:18:33.000So I started to recognise as I got, you know, as things became clear, and as the alcoholism and the addiction began to sort of settle, and I maybe even moved beyond its most obvious expressions, that I had The raw ingredients for the devoted life, almost like I'd been created, in fact, to live a devoted life, and I'd been sort of misdirected by a culture that tries to direct you towards material ideas, but— Made to worship.
00:18:57.000But, like, this is the thing I wanted to say, is that there's sort of this tendency in 12-step sort of circles and I wonder if you find the same thing to be true in Christianity and I'd love to hear what you think that if we're not careful our spiritual life under the surface we're doing it in order that we might achieve something in the context of secular society maybe and it could be something that's sort of relatively desirable or even laudable or if I do this I'll get a better job maybe I'll get a boyfriend or girlfriend or wife or husband or whatever
00:19:28.000And I noticed in the culture that I'm not getting clean from drugs and alcohol so that I can fit.
00:19:33.000Because if you're a drug addict, of course, you're in the back of your mind thinking, oh, maybe then I'll get a job, or maybe then I'll get a girlfriend, because I'm not going to do that as a heroin addict.
00:19:40.000But actually, you're being prepared for the spiritual life.
00:19:43.000I wonder, is it similarly true, George, that you could devote yourself to the path, but in the back of your mind, there's a false idol behind it?
00:20:40.000So, all of this being said, absolutely, there are so many people that believe that they're Christian, but that's why Jesus says that the time will come where you come in front of me and I say, I do not know you.
00:21:13.000If I broke down a Ferrari, I'm not taking it to Honda.
00:21:16.000Because they'll open up the hood and be like, I have no idea what's going on in here.
00:21:19.000But I bet who's somebody who wants to make money and make profit and make a fool of yourself being like, yeah, you gotta change this and this and they'll screw you and then you'll leave and now you thought you solved the problem, but it's not it's actually worse and in two weeks they'll fall apart.
00:21:32.000We like to give ourselves false medicine and think that it's good.
00:21:35.000It's a placebo effect, but lies always catch up as soon as truth arrives.
00:21:39.000And that's why Jesus describes himself as light.
00:21:45.000I think that's a really beautiful analysis, and I was struck, mate, when you were saying that, that indeed, as Christians, we believe He's coming again.
00:23:10.000I noticed that you seem very low on breakfast cereal.
00:23:13.000Perhaps I could come in and replace it for you.
00:23:16.000Just insidiously sneaking in like a fog or a gas.
00:23:20.000This idea, though, even with the illustrative example there, George, of the wind, where, you know, like, we witness the impact and the effects of wind if we cannot see wind itself.
00:23:33.000But, of course, ultimately, when we're tracking and registering the presence of wind, it's like, oh, because, yeah, what blew the hair about or blew the leaves around, we can see its impact.
00:23:44.000And I've sort of felt like similar things.
00:23:46.000But when they're indeed trying to understand and appreciate quantum physics or dark matter or dark energy, they're like, we don't know what this is, but it's as if there's some other phenomena or some other force there.
00:23:57.000When I'm thinking about and dealing with the idea of faith, I'm aware of something that seems on the dimension that I live on that has, subjectively in my experience of it, a real fragility.
00:24:09.000I think that's why I'm addicted to performing, man.
00:24:13.000There's a brilliant line that people talk about a lot in the film called Chariots of Fire, which is about sort of early... Oh, you'd like it!
00:24:20.000It's like about the sort of early runners and early Olympics and all this kind of stuff and there's one runner who won't do a race because he's a Christian and it's on Sunday and he's like, I ain't doing that.
00:24:40.000Anyhow, I feel like on stage, mate, that is the place where faith, because I'm so scared of performing in front of people, I feel so exposed and terrified about it, that the process that I've had to undergo, and have always had to undergo, and even when I was a kid, when I first started doing it, I was like, oh my god, I'm so frightened, I don't know how to do it.
00:25:22.000And then it's harder for me to actually practice it in life, off stage, off camera, in reality, to sort of trust the gentle threads of faith, to be present to something that is like the wind, mysterious, mercurial, unknowable, only known by its impact, not by the thing itself.
00:25:39.000To sort of live in faith, for me, takes a constant reassessment In the moment.
00:25:48.000I feel the polarity moving away from transmit light, serve, transmit light, serve, be of service, to back to the sort of black hole, the infolding vortex of suck stuff in.
00:29:40.000So you are worshipping and moving to death.
00:29:43.000That's why he says, I am the way, I am the truth, I am the life.
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00:31:08.000When do you think that you started to move away from, because I understand now some of your story, that you grew up in a Christian home, but I know that you also Had dalliances with celebrity and all that that world entails.
00:31:26.000Can you tell me a little bit of your return to faith and how your relationship with it changed, mate?
00:32:12.000How did I have nothing before, and have the best time in the world, and then now everything that I've ever dreamt about, and I'm sad and depressed, is because I exited out the only piece of Prince in my life.
00:33:17.000Alright, so the truth is I figured it out mathematically and with like, if you have a video, you look at the analytics of it.
00:33:25.000Okay, well every time I'm down, I'm believing in myself and earthly things.
00:33:30.000And every time I'm high up and I'm peaceful is when I'm in his presence.
00:33:33.000And so when I read that Bible verse that, think about it, Peter was always gung ho for Jesus, but he sunk as soon as he got scared.
00:33:42.000And immediately my life changed when a woman told me, every time that you have fear, just picture yourself bowing in the presence of Lucifer.
00:34:05.000And I don't just walk on water, I run on water.
00:34:07.000So that way when my fellow brothers and sisters that are having no faith, they see my fruit, it's not my fruit, it's His fruit, it's undeniable.
00:34:14.000Even atheists and people that don't believe in God go, how is this possible?
00:34:18.000There was gentlemen that were asking me, how did this happen?
00:34:29.000All of my works, even having this relationship with you, even having the opportunity to be in this interview, that wasn't because of my works.
00:34:35.000I was in this industry for 10 years and nothing happened to me.
00:34:37.000But the one year that I gave it all to Jesus and said, I don't care where this goes, it's the biggest and most blessing of my years, and I have peace.
00:34:47.000I'm going to go share it with the world.
00:34:50.000It's because the first is last and the last is first.
00:34:55.000So if me and you have an unlimited supply of meals and drinks, are you and I just going to sit here in an empty place?
00:35:03.000Or are we going to go run and tell our neighbors, come, the king has arrived.
00:35:10.000In that analogy, you know, the sort of the bear analogy, it sounds like with your description of your childhood, it sounds very beautiful, George, that you were raised in the light of the Lord.
00:35:24.000And I wonder how you came to turn away from that light.
00:35:28.000And what I mean is in a sort of a very literal way.
00:35:31.000What was it that was more seductive than that?
00:35:35.000Why is it that we're not here discussing you going, Brought up to love Jesus, I carried on loving Jesus and I love Jesus now.
00:35:44.000Seems that there was some interruption and disruption and you sort of casually mentioned that you wanted to kill yourself.
00:35:49.000So I wonder what that, can you tell me what that was?
00:35:54.000Say for example when I was chatting with Jonathan Rumi, he tells me, and it's always funny talking to him because he's played Jesus and stuff and I have to keep forcing him out of my mind, like I'm not going to let you be Jesus in my brain.
00:36:26.000Yeah, like they're sort of surrendered to it.
00:36:29.000But could you tell me, what was your experience?
00:36:32.000Because a lot of people that have the conversion experience don't have, or I don't know, I mean I don't know what the bloody demographics are, but I've not heard that before.
00:36:40.000I've not heard someone say, I brought up and I knew I loved Christ, But then I did this other thing.
00:36:50.000I suppose you do hear in Kings, like a lot of, like he, you know, David himself, but then sort of subsequent Kings that are in there, like Solomon, like ending up with all them concubines and everything.
00:38:06.000When somebody gets comfortable and they get lazy and they don't need a stride, sometimes they get comfortable and they're like, they don't need God.
00:38:25.000And so sometimes fear is what causes you to walk towards that path, and you shouldn't.
00:38:29.000So it's not a lot that these people are bad.
00:38:32.000That's why Jesus says, forgive them for they don't know.
00:38:34.000If they knew what their salvation was, if they knew how much grace they had, if they knew what the word was, they wouldn't walk in fear because they would know it.
00:38:43.000But they don't know, and so Lucifer is jumping on them.
00:38:47.000You gotta remember, the devil himself knows the gospel forward and backwards, so he's going to challenge you on his words.
00:38:54.000That's why when God and the devil fought, they didn't fist fight, they used scripture bases.
00:39:21.000But whenever we're talking about the Lucifer, I go, oh, I feel like there's sort of something rather appealing about sort of the kind of campness of Satan.
00:40:02.000Because I'm saying to you, if you ask me what happened, I'm like, what happened was I went there and I got this job and I got a bunch of money and it made me go a bit crazy and I got all this opportunity.
00:40:27.000I was on a very popular show, and I was interviewing people, I was traveling the world, and I was doing everything, and I'm sitting there, and I'm just like, I don't get it.
00:40:37.000And it was so obvious, too, that it was spiritual, because even on the conversations I was getting destroyed off of my beliefs.
00:40:43.000So God put me in a place, He's like, alright, are you going to sit there comfortably rich, in your little high horse, powerful?
00:40:49.000But you know deep down you're miserable, and you're in death.
00:40:57.000I'd go, how did I have more peace and joy flipping burgers at Five Guys than sitting up here at the top of my top and thinking, this is what I dreamt of, and I would turn it away for five minutes flipping burgers?
00:41:10.000And I sat there like, this doesn't make any sense.
00:42:38.000So jumping in this leap, right before I wanted to ask my woman to marry me, right when my dad and I are going in on business, it was like my hands and feet were tied.
00:42:46.000And if I take this jump and it doesn't work, I'm dead.
00:44:05.000Well, let me tell you, you're in the light of the Lord when you're a kid, your mother's praying over you, your dad's praying over you, everyone's doing their best.
00:46:10.000But God's a tolerant God, but He's also a just God.
00:46:14.000And regardless of what you did in front of a judge, if you did the crime, you're gonna do the time.
00:46:19.000And so when I fell in love with Jesus and I was like, wait a second, the death of, the wage of sin is death, and He carried that willingly, and I'm gonna sit here and disrespect the cross and just keep playing that game?
00:47:12.000I had this conversation with somebody where I was like, how sad is it that Satan has somebody from their home as their childhood, disrespected, maybe even molested.
00:47:23.000They have all this foul behavior and they're filled with that.
00:47:28.000And they get put into the world and they make mistakes because of their upbringing and what they had.
00:47:32.000And then us Christians are like, get this guy!
00:47:36.000And they just kick him in the face and they throw him back to the world that destroyed him.
00:48:25.000It's just, it's a translation from the Aramaic, rather than sort of a King James or whatever.
00:48:29.000Can you tell me, like, you know, we did, we started off with that bit from Matthew.
00:48:32.000There was another bit, mate, where you were saying a bit about the bit that transformed you, and I think it was to do with righteousness and... Searching for the kingdom?
00:48:41.000Yeah, maybe it was that, maybe it was that.
00:50:47.000I did Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I did Muay Thai.
00:50:50.000And in there, my one rule my parents said was, because they actually, they didn't know for a year I was doing that, because they thought it was just a gym.
00:50:58.000But after a year, they were like, we'll let you here, but if you touch any man, if you touch any man, we're out.
00:54:01.000And randomly I see him in detention after school.
00:54:03.000And detention, how it works is when after class or after school you sit in detention and you take the same buses that the football kids would take.
00:55:30.000And he goes, I just got it so much that I just, it was natural to me.
00:55:35.000And my therapist is teaching me like, and so through that walk, I learned that his father used to beat the crap out of him.
00:55:44.000And so when he used to come to school, he had that full of rage.
00:55:48.000And I went home and I started weeping.
00:55:49.000I go, mom, I almost hit a man that needed me more than anything.
00:55:54.000And my mom says, you're full of love because you've given love and you received love in this home.
00:56:00.000So when you see somebody struggling with anger or, or, or anxiety or depression, and they're just furious and they're beating, just remember they were fueled with that with somebody else.
00:58:31.000Well, I hope you enjoyed that conversation.
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