Stay Free - Russel Brand - Inauguration Day Live! – SF522

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:02:15.000 Looking for this deal.

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00:02:19.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:02:22.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:02:34.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand, live from Washington, D.C. Whilst an inauguration might be regarded simply as a ceremony, it has a lot packed into it.

00:02:46.000 And as the sirens that pass, the rumble studios indicate, there is always suppressed chaos amidst apparent order.

00:02:55.000 You might be watching us on YouTube that's probably not as censored as much today as it was yesterday.

00:03:00.000 You might be watching me from X or Facebook or any of the places where...

00:03:06.000 Oligarchs now align in the rotunda to pay homage and bend the knee at the new augmentation, inauguring and implementation of a new set of power.

00:03:18.000 But ceremonial power is but one thing.

00:03:21.000 What does that power...

00:03:22.000 And from where is that authority derived?

00:03:26.000 And who will be the beneficiaries of that power?

00:03:28.000 In short, what meaningful changes can we urgently and immediately anticipate under this MAGA revolution, under this transition of power?

00:03:38.000 Let me know in the comments and chat what you're anticipating and how you feel in particular about the pardoning of Fauci and the Jan 6 Committee and what that indicates when it comes to the age-old topic of corruption.

00:03:52.000 Joining me in Rumble Studios today, and this is a staggering and astonishing, and I can't believe that it's actually happening, is the special presidential envoy for hostages, Adam Bowler.

00:04:04.000 Thank you for joining me, Adam.

00:04:05.000 I'm real happy to be here, Russell.

00:04:06.000 It's pretty exciting that you're here.

00:04:07.000 I know that you're just taking a few moments to be with us before joining President Trump and the new government, of whom you are a member for the event of the Capital One Stadium.

00:04:19.000 Is that correct, isn't it?

00:04:20.000 Yes, I'll be there with the president.

00:04:22.000 Yeah, that's pretty interesting and exciting.

00:04:24.000 Thanks for joining us in the midst of this giddy, giddy carnival.

00:04:27.000 Also, Bashar Masri, a leading Palestinian, perhaps the leading Palestinian businessman, is joining us.

00:04:35.000 And I suppose that's significant given that you, Adam, are here in your capacity as a hostage negotiator with some interesting stories to tell us, some interesting revelations about the situation not only in the Middle East but across the world and how that will likely be impacted by this new administration.

00:04:51.000 Very curious that someone who's so obviously pro-Israel, as yourself, you are Jewish yourself, and I guess anyone who's followed your political career in the last administration will be surprised that you are joined by Bashar Mazri.

00:05:05.000 And I suppose, look, I'm not an expert on that region.

00:05:07.000 It seems that no one in the world is an expert on that extraordinary part of the world and all of its significance.

00:05:13.000 But Bashar, what do you consider to be your role and aim?

00:05:19.000 In particular, with your relationship with Adam and hostage release, given all of the extraordinary changes that have happened in just the last couple of weeks between Israel and Palestine.

00:05:29.000 Well, thanks for having us.

00:05:32.000 Thank you.

00:05:33.000 It's a very important relationship to have.

00:05:36.000 The Palestinians are half of this deal. 1.00

00:05:39.000 So it's important to work with Adam, to work with the new administration for Concluding the deal and beyond the deal, I hope.

00:05:49.000 We need a long-lasting peace.

00:05:52.000 We need to see the rights of my people, the Palestinian people, being answered.

00:05:59.000 And we need the long-term peace and security for both the Palestinians and the Israelis.

00:06:07.000 I suppose many people are...

00:06:11.000 Astonished, excited, and consider it to be precipitous and important that even prior to Trump being sworn in, there appeared to be movement and a temporary ceasefire was achieved.

00:06:26.000 Do you accredit that to now officially the previous administration, the Biden administration, or do you have a sense that possibly that's as a result of today's events and changes, Adam?

00:06:41.000 You're right, I didn't even think about it, that we're now in the administration.

00:06:45.000 Yeah, you're in it now!

00:06:46.000 Sorry, you know, so we're 25 minutes in.

00:06:51.000 When are you going to get some work done?

00:06:52.000 I know, I know.

00:06:54.000 Right away, we're going to work hard.

00:06:57.000 Yeah, 25 minutes in and I'm with you.

00:06:59.000 What's wrong with me?

00:07:01.000 I think that it's absolutely due to President Trump.

00:07:07.000 And I think what's amazing...

00:07:09.000 I think it's so amazing that with what he writes on True Social, expanded through X, that he says that he wants all hostages.

00:07:19.000 That before he comes into office, just sending them, it changes things and people are released.

00:07:26.000 Do you know that, and this isn't covered, you know that three Americans were released from China?

00:07:31.000 No one covers that.

00:07:33.000 And it was after the message.

00:07:36.000 And so he's...

00:07:38.000 It's unbelievable.

00:07:39.000 There's no person.

00:07:41.000 I didn't think I would go back into government, not because I had a bad experience, but because you never think you're going to go back.

00:07:47.000 And to do something like this with the backing of somebody like President Trump, it's a dream, really, because I know how much difference we can make.

00:07:55.000 The bar is low.

00:07:57.000 There are American hostages held all over the world, but I suppose I'm not unusual in that when I... Think about hostage and hostage negotiations in this newly minted, inchoate administration.

00:08:13.000 I primarily think of the relationship between Israel and Palestine, this most historically contentious relationship, this seemingly irresoluble situation.

00:08:25.000 Like no other topic, people are divided and wounded, and it seems like an unassailable task.

00:08:35.000 Can you tell us, Bashar, how the release of hostages is likely to be a component establishing new and hopefully peaceful relationships between Israel and Palestine?

00:08:52.000 And I suppose you must feel some optimism that that's possible because you were here.

00:08:57.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:08:59.000 Part of the release of the hostages is the truce also.

00:09:03.000 So it's much more than just the release of the hostages, which is very important.

00:09:08.000 It's the truce.

00:09:09.000 It's the release of the Palestinian prisoners.

00:09:12.000 So it sets the ground to a new positive era, we hope.

00:09:18.000 It's a great opportunity.

00:09:20.000 If that did not happen...

00:09:23.000 Nothing else will move.

00:09:25.000 Now that this is happening and hopefully we'll move smoothly into the second phase, which is the more important phase or a continuation of the first phase, then it will set the ground for hopefully a new deal of a long-lasting peace between the Palestinians and Israelis.

00:09:43.000 I'm not trying to simplify things.

00:09:46.000 Things are very complicated.

00:09:47.000 It's not going to be easy.

00:09:48.000 But we do have a strong President Trump.

00:09:53.000 That is a deal-maker, and we are optimistic with that, with starting off so positive, with a truce deal and a hostage deal, it's a great start.

00:10:05.000 Definitely, I'm optimistic.

00:10:07.000 My assumption is that within Palestine there is a broad spectrum of political perspectives, and so I suppose it would be presumptive and reductive of me to consider you...

00:10:20.000 A voice of a unified Palestine.

00:10:24.000 But in the most general terms, do you think that a strong American president, inverted commas, a president who one might imagine being truculent and pugnacious in the event of ongoing conflict is somehow more beneficial, even to a president who one might imagine being truculent and pugnacious in the event of ongoing conflict is somehow more beneficial, even to Palestine and the

00:10:54.000 or, Lord forbid, Harris Waltz.

00:10:58.000 We needed someone like President Trump badly.

00:11:04.000 We need somebody to shake up the whole area to show both the Palestinians and Israelis what's best for them. 1.00

00:11:11.000 Right now, and they have not been seeing the light, they've been blinded by the hostilities.

00:11:17.000 So now at least...

00:11:19.000 For this moment, the hostilities have stopped, and we hope it continues, and then he will push with his team for a deal.

00:11:30.000 It's important to have a deal.

00:11:32.000 If we do not have a deal, then the whole problems that happen will be repeated, maybe in a different way, but more violence will occur in the future.

00:11:44.000 So it's very important, I emphasize.

00:11:47.000 On the next step, after the second phase or during the second phase, what that deal will look like.

00:11:53.000 Yes, Bashar.

00:11:54.000 I suppose when I'm listening and I'm trying to think, how do you moderate a conversation around this most contentious of subjects?

00:12:04.000 In my mind, I feel the phantoms of more extreme perspectives.

00:12:09.000 For example, I can sort of hear Ben Shapiro, who is understandably very resolute, On the subject of Israel as a devout Jew, saying any exchange for hostages and prisoners will mean innocent folk on the side of Israel and hardened prisoners or terrorists on the side of Palestine. 0.72

00:12:32.000 Then, of course, elsewhere, there are many, many people that believe that events since October the 7th have been so extreme and one-sided that Palestine are beyond a disadvantage in a position where you can't conceive of a peaceful solution.

00:12:49.000 It's notable, then, that Bashar is a... 1.00

00:12:55.000 I don't want to use this word because I don't want to presume this word is universal, but secular, i.e.

00:13:01.000 the idea that Palestine could head in a direction that was not ultimately governed by militant or, dare I even venture, Islamic undergirdings.

00:13:14.000 Is that...

00:13:15.000 What is significant here, the possibility of a different direction for Palestine?

00:13:20.000 And Adam, it seems quite complex to me to consider that that would not be regarded as being, I don't know, managed.

00:13:29.000 I think, and I bet what I share with Ben Shapiro, who I think moved to Nashville, by the way, where I am, I think we share upbringings that are absolutely very heavy Zionist.

00:13:45.000 That are very strong in what we believe.

00:13:48.000 And I will tell you, it's people like us, strong people, that actually can make peace like we were talking about.

00:13:57.000 And so here's what I think.

00:13:59.000 I think for years, forever almost, the Palestinians, it's called, it's victimization politics. 1.00

00:14:07.000 There are countries that use those people for their purposes.

00:14:13.000 For a while, it was Arab countries.

00:14:15.000 And these countries want to leave those people in squalor for political gain.

00:14:23.000 Because it means for them that they can use it to influence world opinion.

00:14:30.000 And everyone can feel bad.

00:14:32.000 And feel bad that you have children.

00:14:35.000 Because all people feel bad for children.

00:14:37.000 So if they fix the issue, what is there left to do?

00:14:44.000 They don't want to fix the issue.

00:14:46.000 And so what is interesting about Bashar is Bashar has been successful in business.

00:14:52.000 He's never been in politics.

00:14:54.000 He doesn't care.

00:14:56.000 He's not using the Palestinian people. 0.88

00:14:59.000 What you want, imagine us if we had a president or we had control or something.

00:15:04.000 We've never been colonized.

00:15:05.000 We pushed it out.

00:15:06.000 We didn't accept the British. 1.00

00:15:07.000 Sorry.

00:15:08.000 We would have accepted you.

00:15:10.000 If it was you and not the king, it would have been much better.

00:15:14.000 But you need someone that actually cares about the people.

00:15:21.000 And so Bashar is an option. 0.99

00:15:23.000 He's raised his hand.

00:15:23.000 But there are real people.

00:15:25.000 If you have someone that cares about the Palestinian people, then what they understand is peace will benefit them economically.

00:15:35.000 And we can actually...

00:15:36.000 Take them out of squalor if we want to.

00:15:39.000 And it is the best.

00:15:41.000 Think about long-term security for Israel.

00:15:43.000 It's the best gift that could be given to Israel.

00:15:47.000 Michelle, what do you think about that?

00:15:49.000 I mean, I'm guessing that the countries Adam's referring to, I'm guessing, Iran or Syria or Saudi Arabia.

00:15:56.000 How do you feel about those assumptions, the plight of Palestine?

00:16:05.000 It's beneficial to sovereign Arab nations and is exploited in order to leverage, I don't know, sort of political or resource-oriented favor, presumably in their relationships with Russia or China or even the United States.

00:16:21.000 What do you feel about that?

00:16:22.000 I fully agree, and I think I'll go further, that dictators in our area, many of them survived over the Palestinian issue.

00:16:34.000 Always using the Palestinian issue as the excuse that they are supporters of Palestine and the Palestinian people, when in reality they're really not.

00:16:44.000 The Arab masses are definitely supportive of the Palestinian people, but the dictators use the Palestinian cause to get support of their masses.

00:16:55.000 But when it comes to delivering to the Palestinian people, it has been very little, very limited, and sometimes...

00:17:02.000 Against the Palestinian people, some of the leaders, the Arab dictators, fought the Palestinians, including al-Assad in Syria.

00:17:11.000 In Lebanon, they fought the Palestinians.

00:17:13.000 They killed so many of them and so on.

00:17:18.000 So I think it's very important that we defuse the Palestinian-Israeli conflict for the benefit. 0.85

00:17:25.000 Not just only of Palestine and Israel, but also for the benefit of the rest of the Arab countries, which are now much more moderate than before.

00:17:34.000 Bashar Majri, you are the most successful Palestinian businessman.

00:17:40.000 And there are rumors, I understand, that in the event of a sustained ceasefire between Israel and Palestine...

00:17:50.000 Ultimately, a degree of governmental authority could be achieved in that region that will require leadership.

00:17:57.000 Is it possible that that's something that could involve you in the future?

00:18:06.000 It's possible.

00:18:07.000 As a Palestinian citizen, we have not had elections in 20 years.

00:18:13.000 We need to have elections. 0.98

00:18:14.000 We've always strived for a secular, democratic state.

00:18:19.000 Most people know the PLO as a terrorist organization, but ironically, the PLO have always called for a secular democratic state.

00:18:29.000 This is our upbringing in the days of the revolution.

00:18:33.000 Now we're not in the days of the revolution.

00:18:35.000 Now we're in the days of state building and we need to cherish that and we need to have Palestinian elections to choose the next leader.

00:18:44.000 I will do whatever it takes.

00:18:48.000 To benefit my people and the area.

00:18:52.000 If it's in business, if it's in business.

00:18:55.000 If it's in politics, it's in politics.

00:18:57.000 I think after what has happened in the last 16 months, it is unfair for any Palestinian to say no to anything that will benefit the people. 1.00

00:19:09.000 Too many people have been killed.

00:19:11.000 Too many people are still suffering.

00:19:13.000 The survivors are also suffering.

00:19:15.000 And we need to get out of this mess.

00:19:18.000 Adam, you look like you were going to say something, but if you're not going to say something, because I know you're a good negotiator, I know you're always negotiating people to freedom, I've got questions if you don't have statements.

00:19:30.000 I had one thought.

00:19:31.000 It was going through my head.

00:19:36.000 I thought about the relationship with what Bashar is saying in MAGA, believe it or not.

00:19:43.000 And it took me a long time.

00:19:45.000 I was in the first Trump administration.

00:19:46.000 I love working for the president.

00:19:48.000 But I didn't always know what MAGA meant.

00:19:50.000 Maybe it's because it's evolved, maybe.

00:19:52.000 But when the president was elected this time, I stayed up all night and I was so excited.

00:19:59.000 And part of that's because of October 7th.

00:20:00.000 And truthfully, part of it is, in my head, I couldn't even imagine.

00:20:05.000 I'm pretty good at imagining forward scenarios.

00:20:07.000 I couldn't imagine the reverse of who would win.

00:20:11.000 And I think what MAGA is, is it's about Americans.

00:20:18.000 It's not about D or R. It's not about parties, even.

00:20:22.000 It's not about the people that control things. 0.99

00:20:25.000 It's because we're sick and tired of it not being run for Americans, not for some special interest bullshit. 0.98

00:20:37.000 The reason it speaks to me is I'm always wondering, how the hell did I get here? 0.98

00:20:43.000 Like, I'm from a small town outside of Albany, New York.

00:20:48.000 And I'm here on this, in a suit, and I negotiate.

00:20:52.000 It's amazing.

00:20:53.000 By the way, only in America.

00:20:56.000 So why him?

00:20:57.000 And this is what I think.

00:21:02.000 MAGA for the Palestinians is, well, you have people, this is me saying it, sorry, Abu Mazen and some of these people, they steal money. 1.00

00:21:14.000 They're billionaires.

00:21:15.000 The current leadership of the Palestinian Authority, that individual and his sons, run a classic mafia protection racket, which means they go to businesses, they force them to pay them for protection from themselves, like the godfather. 0.92

00:21:31.000 You can't deal with them because why would they want the situation to change?

00:21:36.000 They're making so much money off the situation, they're not going to have it to change.

00:21:41.000 And obviously, Hamas... 0.89

00:21:43.000 You can't have terrorism either.

00:21:45.000 So what, in my opinion, Palestinians need a leadership that cares about Palestinians.

00:21:51.000 They need to make a Palestinian great again.

00:21:53.000 I never was.

00:21:54.000 Make it great, the first.

00:21:57.000 Make it not shitty.

00:21:58.000 I don't know.

00:21:59.000 Yeah, I'm not a good brander.

00:22:00.000 He's got a couple of them.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, you're going to have to work on that slope, madam, if you're going to create unity. 1.00

00:22:04.000 It definitely cannot have expletives in the acronym.

00:22:10.000 Bashar, do you think it's really possible to bypass a revolutionary moment coming out the back of the devastation that has ensued between October the 7th and current day?

00:22:24.000 How do you respond to Adam Bola's claims that the Hamas leadership are fundamentally a criminal rather than political?

00:22:34.000 organization.

00:22:35.000 Do you think that's legitimate?

00:22:36.000 Is it possible for Palestine to come out of this period of terrible conflagration and devastation and bypass a militant and revolutionary moment and move straight into some administrative, bureaucratic, secular and political solution?

00:22:54.000 Sort of almost something we've never imagined.

00:22:58.000 I think it's easy for the Palestinian people and the vast majority of the Palestinian people are not fighters.

00:23:06.000 They're not revolutionary.

00:23:07.000 They want to live a fair life.

00:23:10.000 They want their basic rights and they want to move on.

00:23:13.000 And just like any other people.

00:23:15.000 And they have not had that for a very long, long time.

00:23:19.000 So I don't think where the people, the majority of the people are going to hold on to this organization or that organization.

00:23:28.000 Whether it's Hamas or Fatah or any organization.

00:23:33.000 The militants become militants often because of a reason.

00:23:40.000 And I think we need to deal with the reason.

00:23:42.000 And the reason is that the Palestinian plight has not been dealt with for a long, long period of time.

00:23:49.000 Now, of course, there are radicals in the world that love to ride on these Quote-unquote, revolutionary movements or terrorism movement.

00:24:03.000 It depends which side you're on.

00:24:06.000 I believe the popularity of the radicals when you do have a peace process drops dramatically.

00:24:15.000 When you do not have a peace process, people have no hope, no future.

00:24:20.000 They move to radicalism and they...

00:24:23.000 Tend to move to religious radicalism as well in all religion, not just Islam.

00:24:29.000 And I don't think religion is the problem.

00:24:32.000 Religion is good, actually. 0.71

00:24:33.000 It's good to believe in God and watching whatever religion it is.

00:24:37.000 Islam, Christianity, Judaism.

00:24:39.000 It's being radicalism and to be a militant, make the religion a militant tool, is negative and very bad in my opinion. 0.66

00:24:52.000 I find it hard to conceive of an evolution of the crisis, or plight is the word you used, of the Palestinian people, into a process that's political and non-violent.

00:25:10.000 I suppose precisely because you've said that it's such a grief-stricken, historic, scriptural, woe-saturated...

00:25:21.000 I just find it very difficult.

00:25:23.000 And I wonder how, like on the ground, how that's going to, what that process looks like.

00:25:28.000 And may I ask as well, Bashar, how it won't seem like it's being organized and manipulated by significant US and international power to afford Israel the solution.

00:25:39.000 Israel wants rather than a truly mutual beneficial solution for the people of Palestine and Israel.

00:25:47.000 Well, what you stated last has to be the answer.

00:25:50.000 It has to be for both.

00:25:51.000 For the best of Israel, a long-term solution is good for the security of Israel. 0.75

00:25:59.000 So answering the...

00:26:05.000 Giving Palestinians the right of self-determination, creating a Palestinian state is not bad for Israel.

00:26:11.000 It should be good for Israel as long as the two states are in peace together.

00:26:17.000 I know it sounds simple and it is complicated, but it's not as complicated as people thought.

00:26:24.000 Keep in mind that in 1993, right here in this city, Arafat, who was the leader of the PLO, Which was seen as the big terrorist organization was here shaking hands in the White House with Prime Minister Rabin and Le Chimon Peres also and signed the peace agreement.

00:26:52.000 And the peace agreement moved on for a long time.

00:26:55.000 It still is holding today with a lot of problems.

00:26:59.000 The big problem with that agreement was a five-year agreement and then we discuss what's next.

00:27:05.000 What we need today is a full agreement that decides what happens day one, next year, the year after, etc.

00:27:12.000 It's a full process outlined till we reach the end of it.

00:27:17.000 It may take 10 years.

00:27:18.000 It's not going to happen over a few months period.

00:27:21.000 I'm not simplifying things that...

00:27:24.000 It's just peace and it's going to happen like that.

00:27:26.000 There's going to be a lot of confidence-building measures between the two people.

00:27:30.000 I think there should be a confederation between the state of Palestine and Israel so that both people are enjoying the peace dividends and that will bring people together.

00:27:42.000 A hundred years ago or less, we had wars in Europe.

00:27:46.000 Today we have the European Union.

00:27:48.000 More people died in the European wars than...

00:27:52.000 The people that died in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

00:27:56.000 So I think it's very doable, and violence could drop dramatically.

00:28:01.000 Even radical groups can adjust as well.

00:28:05.000 They are political groups for the most part, and they will adjust.

00:28:12.000 The radicals will try to sabotage a deal, and that's why we need strong leaders to do a deal like this.

00:28:21.000 In my humble opinion, we do have a strong leader in the United States, and I think he can deliver a deal, he can push a deal that's beneficial to both the Palestinian people and to the Israelis, and to the whole region.

00:28:34.000 Thank you, Bashar.

00:28:35.000 And I'd like to add on, which is a few things to what Bashar said, because I agree completely.

00:28:43.000 First of all, sometimes things that seem unimaginable in the moment are very imaginable.

00:28:50.000 If you take a step back and look.

00:28:52.000 So I'll give you an example.

00:28:53.000 Vietnam.

00:28:55.000 Think of the horror of what happened to Vietnam.

00:28:59.000 It reminds me of our retreat from Afghanistan, which I can't stop thinking about.

00:29:07.000 But what did we learn from Vietnam? 0.52

00:29:10.000 I've been in Vietnam now.

00:29:12.000 They love Americans probably more than America.

00:29:14.000 It's a market economy, and the people love Americans.

00:29:18.000 In Vietnam.

00:29:19.000 Remember what happened.

00:29:21.000 Napalm, all these things, the horrible things on both sides.

00:29:25.000 And that wasn't that long ago.

00:29:27.000 So if you take a step back, you see exactly what Boshar said.

00:29:30.000 It's possible.

00:29:31.000 But what does it require?

00:29:32.000 First and foremost, the United States can't pick the leader.

00:29:36.000 We can't impose.

00:29:38.000 Every time we do it, it doesn't work well.

00:29:40.000 In fact, we left Vietnam.

00:29:42.000 We didn't impose any leadership.

00:29:43.000 That is the people eventually chose.

00:29:45.000 You've got to have the people.

00:29:47.000 Choose.

00:29:47.000 It's good for us to do that.

00:29:49.000 When we impose, it's bad.

00:29:51.000 And so the people need to be there.

00:29:53.000 Then you create a situation where someone legitimately speaks for the people.

00:29:58.000 That creates sustainability.

00:30:00.000 And that's possible.

00:30:01.000 And then the second thing you need is you need very strong leadership.

00:30:06.000 And this is unique in President Trump's re-election.

00:30:11.000 It's a unique time.

00:30:13.000 And it makes so much possible that wasn't possible before.

00:30:17.000 It's inauguration day.

00:30:19.000 We're taking the opportunity to examine and analyze what genuine changes might emerge in this second Trump presidency.

00:30:27.000 And that is why we're joined today by Bashar Masri and Adam Bola.

00:30:31.000 Adam Bola is here, of course, in his capacity as the government's special presidential envoy.

00:30:38.000 Four hostages.

00:30:39.000 And along with Bashar Mazri, we're talking about how this new administration might lead to that most extraordinary of goals being achieved, peace between Israel and Palestine.

00:30:52.000 Let me know in the comments in chat what you're thinking about our conversation.

00:30:55.000 So far, we're going to take a, as you know, we run this operation.

00:31:00.000 In conjunction with some commercial partners.

00:31:03.000 I'm so sorry to tell you that we need money occasionally from corporate entities.

00:31:10.000 But actually, Dylan, do you know what the first commercial is?

00:31:15.000 Qualia.

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00:33:18.000 Now that me and Adam...

00:33:20.000 And Bashar have covered Middle Eastern peace, which we hope to have achieved in the next couple of months.

00:33:24.000 We're going to have a little more of an idle chat about matters in D.C., some of the events that are going on, some of the extraordinary sights that you will see.

00:33:33.000 Last night I was at the Bible Museum and I saw things you won't believe, unless you are a faith-based Christian, in which case you would believe it. 0.99

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00:33:49.000 Adam, where are you?

00:33:49.000 Where are you heading straight after this?

00:33:51.000 I have a quick meeting with a senator, and then I'm going over to the arena, the big basketball arena, where the president will be and where he'll speak.

00:34:01.000 And he's just going to lay out a vision for America that astonishingly includes you.

00:34:06.000 Well, he's got a whole bunch of speakers, and actually one of them speaking about Middle East peace is Steve Witkoff, and that is actually his coordinator.

00:34:15.000 So we work a lot because my job is to get every single American, And so we'll be able to hear Steve's vision.

00:34:35.000 And I'll tell you something.

00:34:36.000 Steve is a fantastic pick.

00:34:38.000 He's unbelievable.

00:34:39.000 So you're going to be working very close to him on this most important of topics.

00:34:42.000 Roshal, how are you finding it in D.C.? Have you been to an inauguration before?

00:34:48.000 Never.

00:34:48.000 I lived in D.C. for a while, a long time ago, but this is very exciting and we've been going from one place to the other.

00:34:55.000 Meeting a lot of people, great networking, but it's nice. 0.98

00:35:01.000 Damn cold. 0.95

00:35:02.000 Yeah, it's really, really cold here. 0.98

00:35:04.000 But do you think the inauguration was moved inside because of cold weather or because of numerous security threats?

00:35:10.000 We were talking about this.

00:35:12.000 I mean, the reality, we were out last night walking around, and you know how cold it was last night.

00:35:17.000 And you know it's colder right now than it was last night.

00:35:20.000 And so I think, honestly, what would have happened is people are very devoted to President Trump.

00:35:24.000 And if you had people, if you're outside for three hours, you would have people that are frail.

00:35:31.000 Come and stay.

00:35:32.000 And I worry people would die because they'd be out there.

00:35:36.000 They wouldn't fully bring the right dress and they'd sit.

00:35:38.000 And I think you would have had frailer, older individuals die. 0.99

00:35:42.000 That's what I believe.

00:35:44.000 Absolutely.

00:35:45.000 Absolutely.

00:35:45.000 Well, I was safely ensconced in the Museum of the Bible in D.C. attending an event last night, which I wasn't even invited to, by the way.

00:35:56.000 I just, like, have ended up as a result of a string of...

00:35:58.000 I thought you were an exhibit.

00:36:00.000 Well...

00:36:02.000 That may yet happen.

00:36:04.000 Who knows what the next decade holds?

00:36:06.000 Maybe in 10 years, they'll say.

00:36:08.000 And then, of course, there was this chapter in the history of Christianity.

00:36:13.000 Richard, I don't even know if you are a Muslim, are you?

00:36:16.000 I am Muslim, yes.

00:36:17.000 You are a Palestinian Muslim and you... 1.00

00:36:22.000 Feel that the current leadership, there can be no solution while there is a militant component.

00:36:28.000 There has to be a political and diplomatic solution.

00:36:31.000 Do you think that some people in Palestine will see even that as a kind of apostasy or heresy?

00:36:36.000 That somehow it has to be a violent solution because of the nature of the conflict?

00:36:41.000 I'm sure there are, but I think this is the tiny minority.

00:36:45.000 And I'm sure there are those people on the other side, but I'm also confident it's the tiny minority. 0.91

00:36:51.000 The majority of the Palestinians, and if I may speak of a lot of Israelis, I know the majority of Israelis both want to live in peace.

00:37:02.000 It's the radicals that have taken us down the drain, and we need to grab things back and respond to the vast majority of the...

00:37:14.000 Well, there's no doubt that the Israel-Palestine conflict is unique.

00:37:18.000 That dynamic of extremists determining the nature of the conflict is a much broader issue, isn't it?

00:37:26.000 I think most of us understand that whether even in domestic American politics or UK politics, people at the extremes tend to define the nature of the conflict.

00:37:36.000 That seems to be generally true.

00:37:38.000 Would you say, Adam, even beyond this issue?

00:37:40.000 Absolutely.

00:37:41.000 I mean, look, at the end of the day, Even when you see it and how in the U.S., right?

00:37:46.000 You've got extremes, very heavy right, very heavy left, and you know that that spectrum is a circle.

00:37:53.000 Far left and far meet right meet.

00:37:55.000 They're almost the same if you're very far right.

00:37:58.000 One is fascism and one is straight social communism, right?

00:38:02.000 It's almost the same thing.

00:38:04.000 And so it's unbelievable in how that works.

00:38:07.000 And also the other thing I'd say is you guys know.

00:38:11.000 It's not fun.

00:38:12.000 To talk about working together.

00:38:15.000 It's not newsworthy.

00:38:18.000 No one reports and says, oh, that person actually did fine today.

00:38:23.000 Or, look, there was a great interaction.

00:38:25.000 I'll give you an example.

00:38:28.000 In my role, and SPIHA is the acronym, so you don't have to say it.

00:38:31.000 SPIHA. SPIHA, yeah, yeah.

00:38:33.000 That's catchy.

00:38:34.000 You know that government mandates the acronym?

00:38:38.000 It's in law.

00:38:39.000 Wow.

00:38:39.000 Not just that, but every acronym.

00:38:42.000 They're very into acronyms.

00:38:43.000 Doge!

00:38:44.000 Mandate acronym?

00:38:46.000 Well, that was just good marketing.

00:38:47.000 You know, you got to give it to Ilan.

00:38:49.000 He's good, you know.

00:38:50.000 I don't know who came up with that, but Doge is just good marketing.

00:38:54.000 So in the SPIHA role that's set up that way, no one would talk about the fact that yesterday I'm back and forth with the, it was the current, now it will be former SPIHA, who's a great guy and is working his butt off.

00:39:10.000 I'm not allowed to swear, right?

00:39:12.000 You can actually. 0.99

00:39:12.000 But, I can't say ass. 0.99

00:39:15.000 You can say whatever you want. 0.98

00:39:16.000 Will you get fined?

00:39:17.000 I live in the Museum of the Bible.

00:39:19.000 Oh, yeah, sorry, sorry.

00:39:20.000 It's missed by Christian principles, but free speech-wise, you can go crazy.

00:39:24.000 I think, yeah, at that point, I think we've found a threshold that's manageable for our three separate faiths, Islam, Judaism, and Christianity.

00:39:32.000 Actually, that's a good point.

00:39:34.000 Yes.

00:39:35.000 It's like the new face of religion.

00:39:37.000 Please, God.

00:39:39.000 All right.

00:39:40.000 You know, no one wants to talk about people working together.

00:39:44.000 Because the one thing that I love about my role, here's one thing I'll tell you.

00:39:48.000 Every single American in the United States wants Americans home that are held abroad. 1.00

00:39:55.000 We all share that.

00:39:57.000 It's not bipartisan.

00:39:59.000 It's American.

00:40:02.000 And I think it's one of the only roles like that.

00:40:04.000 But no one will report on that.

00:40:06.000 You're here with family members.

00:40:08.000 Is that true?

00:40:08.000 In D.C., there are family members of hostages that are currently still held in Afghanistan.

00:40:13.000 Yes.

00:40:15.000 It's unbelievable.

00:40:17.000 I'll give you an example.

00:40:19.000 Right now, the Taliban hold seven of our people.

00:40:23.000 Seven.

00:40:25.000 How is that acceptable?

00:40:26.000 How have we allowed that to happen for years?

00:40:29.000 Not that long, because they only took over a year and a half ago.

00:40:32.000 But we have people that have been in prison for, Years.

00:40:38.000 How do we allow that?

00:40:40.000 Why don't Americans know that?

00:40:42.000 Why don't we know that?

00:40:43.000 Why is that confidential?

00:40:45.000 Why?

00:40:45.000 You want to know why?

00:40:47.000 Because that's what they've done before.

00:40:49.000 Nobody rethinks it.

00:40:51.000 It's not even that it's bad intention.

00:40:53.000 It's, I don't know, that's just what we've done before.

00:40:55.000 We'll follow it.

00:40:56.000 And so, the good news is there's so much positive to change.

00:41:02.000 And it's not because I'm smart or I'm good.

00:41:04.000 It's because The President of the United States is just going to do what makes sense practically.

00:41:11.000 That's all.

00:41:12.000 It's just saying, why do we do that?

00:41:15.000 People don't even know.

00:41:18.000 And that's how we're successful.

00:41:20.000 Yes, there's been a lot of bureaucratic inertia even in areas that seem like they would require novel, new, and innovative thinking.

00:41:30.000 In fact, if there's any particular strain that defines the matter that I hope that you two can participate to a resolution for, it's a kind of entrenched and unending near eternal sense of conflict.

00:41:47.000 As a new Christian, I'm reading the Bible every day, and it's so extraordinary to encounter in the Old Testament reports of this conflict.

00:42:00.000 Prophecy about this conflict, the history of this conflict, you get the sense, even scripturally, that this is somehow something that's fraternal, familial, molecular, one body divided, one family divided.

00:42:19.000 And there's been so much inconceivable hurt and bloodshed.

00:42:24.000 I can't...

00:42:25.000 I've got to tell you, I don't look at it.

00:42:27.000 I don't look at it because I can't bear to look at it.

00:42:29.000 I don't want to deal with it.

00:42:32.000 I don't want to become one of those people who makes my identity when I'm not Jewish.

00:42:36.000 I'm not an Arab.

00:42:38.000 I'm a human being and a Christian.

00:42:40.000 And I don't want to be one of those people that takes a position and alienates people.

00:42:45.000 They're perfectly good people on both sides.

00:42:48.000 I love loads of Israeli people.

00:42:50.000 I love loads of Muslims who could not be sympathetic to the Palestinian plant. 1.00

00:42:54.000 It's just gotten to the point where we feel like, well, really, like as Trump said, I want people to stop dying.

00:43:01.000 I want people to stop dying when talking about Ukraine, Russia.

00:43:04.000 And it's clear that what's going to be required is innovation.

00:43:07.000 And I just...

00:43:09.000 I pray that there is a political solution.

00:43:12.000 And even whilst I would reject the idea of secularism in so many ways, because I feel that it's, in a sense, one of the ways that we're primarily controlled is by denouncing the divine where we need it most in organisation.

00:43:25.000 I can see how, given the nature of your scenario, it's going to be a requirement.

00:43:33.000 I hope that this is a successful visit for you, Bashar.

00:43:36.000 It's very successful, and it's very joyful, and it comes at a very special time.

00:43:43.000 When we arrived here, the hostage deal has been concluded, and that adds to the excitement.

00:43:54.000 Being at a historic moment in Washington, D.C. is a great honor.

00:44:00.000 Participating in the events is not only fun, it's just a great honor to be involved and just looking forward for a much better time, we hope.

00:44:12.000 And I think we have short windows.

00:44:17.000 Yeah, I think you're right about that as well.

00:44:19.000 People assume that it's like a four-year administration, but it does feel sometimes that there are encroaching external forces.

00:44:27.000 Because if, Adam, you're correct that any peaceful resolution between Palestine and Israel is disadvantageous to potent Middle Eastern interests, one might imagine that there would be geopolitical maneuvering to prohibit such conclusions being reached.

00:44:45.000 Well, I think there's another unique difference, and we owe Israel, the world owes Israel such a debt of gratitude.

00:44:54.000 And the reason I say it is they realized, they acted, despite world criticism, and took out all of Iran's terrorist infrastructure in glorious fashion. 0.64

00:45:07.000 And we owe them a debt of gratitude because Iran was funding so much terror. 0.98

00:45:13.000 And now they're still funding things.

00:45:17.000 They're still behind terror, but they're nowhere near like they were before.

00:45:21.000 It's why it is such a great opportunity that we can't miss.

00:45:25.000 We have everything aligned.

00:45:26.000 We have the President of the United States that is fearless.

00:45:30.000 That is fearless.

00:45:34.000 We have reduced terrorist infrastructure.

00:45:39.000 And so things are possible.

00:45:42.000 That weren't possible before.

00:45:45.000 It's got to be a day for optimism.

00:45:47.000 If you can't on Inauguration Day...

00:45:49.000 Have some optimism for a bright future, then presumably you're someone that's ideologically connected to the previous administration, which ultimately I came to see as globalism under the guise of cultural wokeism, under the pretense of care and concern, never neglecting to implement further control, whether that's in response to disease or climate or geopolitical issues or the protection and preservation of the rights of...

00:46:15.000 Minorities, all of which is afforded to us if we accept one another as part of the same human family and do our best to act in love.

00:46:23.000 We've got a quick message now from one of our partners and we'll be back with an announcement from Adam that I think might finally shift world politics in the correct direction if a second Trump presidency doesn't do that.

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00:48:23.000 In DC with Adam Bowler and with my new friend Bashar Masri on this auspicious occasion where we seem to have, in a matter of moments, brought about some sort of Middle Eastern peace solution prior even to anyone getting on so much as a flight.

00:48:38.000 And now, Adam, would you please inform our beloved community about the matter that we discussed only briefly prior to coming on air?

00:48:48.000 Yeah, I... You know, you were asking a lot about ingredients, you know, what makes Middle East peace and what brings hostages home, right?

00:48:57.000 And we've talked a lot about this recently, Russell, right?

00:49:00.000 We've talked about how you could help because you are somebody that knows, you, this is what I love about you, you want to use your fame to accomplish great aims.

00:49:11.000 Which, by the way, I didn't even, I took him to a football game.

00:49:13.000 I didn't realize how famous you were.

00:49:15.000 I couldn't go, I couldn't go a second.

00:49:17.000 I mean, everybody loves you.

00:49:19.000 It was hard.

00:49:21.000 I didn't know what I was going to deal with.

00:49:22.000 The Army and Navy football game you're referring to.

00:49:25.000 Go Navy!

00:49:26.000 You learned that.

00:49:27.000 He's a huge American football fan, I'll tell you right now.

00:49:30.000 Navy, in particular.

00:49:31.000 Massive.

00:49:32.000 Navy.

00:49:33.000 It's specifically there.

00:49:34.000 Now the Army's going to be really angry at you, by the way.

00:49:36.000 I apologize for that.

00:49:37.000 In a sense, we're all in this together.

00:49:39.000 If we can achieve peace between Israel and Palestine, at least branches of the U.S. military can come to some kind of cohesion.

00:49:46.000 That's asking too much.

00:49:47.000 Another day.

00:49:48.000 So, I realized, what is the missing ingredient in getting hostages out?

00:49:54.000 And I think, I thought, it might be you, Russell.

00:49:58.000 Yes.

00:49:58.000 I've been thinking the same thing.

00:49:59.000 And I said it to Russell, and he's really, you have so much humility.

00:50:04.000 And so you just said, you're right, I am the missing ingredient.

00:50:07.000 That's right.

00:50:07.000 And that's what I love about you.

00:50:09.000 Just get him.

00:50:09.000 Yeah, I love your humility.

00:50:11.000 And so, then I thought, and I told you, you told me you didn't like this name, so we can work it out.

00:50:17.000 I thought, and...

00:50:18.000 It made me think, let's start a program with very few people that are focused on the hostages.

00:50:24.000 All of our hostages around the world to get them out.

00:50:27.000 And we call them goodwill champions is what I was going with.

00:50:31.000 You can't say ambassador because ambassadors are ambassadors.

00:50:34.000 And I thought goodwill champions and maybe I thought it made it feel like a boxing, like rumble.

00:50:39.000 I didn't know.

00:50:40.000 I think I've showed up here before thinking I was doing the boxing class.

00:50:43.000 It's not a boxing gym, Rumble.

00:50:44.000 There's a very popular program on Rumble where people slap each other.

00:50:47.000 It's a Dana White commodity.

00:50:50.000 It is confusing.

00:50:51.000 So Goodwill Champions, and you're offering me this role as one of very few Goodwill Champions, although we're going to work on the name, participate in complex issues of hostage release around the world, in the Middle East, but globally, wherever there are hostages.

00:51:08.000 I will be turning up to put their situation into stark and striking context.

00:51:12.000 So are you accepting?

00:51:13.000 I accept that role.

00:51:15.000 Okay.

00:51:15.000 So suddenly, hostages around the world may leap into Stockholm Syndrome rather than accept the new terms of release.

00:51:22.000 Come on, we're out of here, guys.

00:51:24.000 No, no, no, I'll give it another chance.

00:51:26.000 I think it's brilliant that you're applying such innovation and open-mindedness to something that's seen as, understandably, rather tragic, intransigent and difficult to resolve.

00:51:39.000 Put me in, coach.

00:51:40.000 Let's get some hostages free by the end of this inauguration day.

00:51:44.000 Well, Russell, what I know will happen is you'll go to these countries and after a while they'll say, please.

00:51:50.000 And the release of the hostages will be like, let Russell, get Russell out.

00:51:53.000 Get him out! 0.98

00:51:54.000 I'll take him out, but you have to get the hostages out.

00:51:56.000 All right, all right, yeah, deal, deal, deal.

00:51:58.000 Can't remember what this war was about anymore.

00:52:01.000 Ask that guy, stop talking.

00:52:03.000 Well, listen, thank you so much, Adam.

00:52:04.000 I accept this goodwill hunting role that I've been offered.

00:52:08.000 Thank you so much, Bashar, for...

00:52:11.000 Handling such a delicate and complex conversation so articulately and as a Muslim and a Jew and a Christian, we can pray that this...

00:52:21.000 Beautiful day for America leads to solutions, resolution and peace for the people across the world that are suffering right now because of steep ulterior globalist ideas that perhaps ought to be discarded immediately.

00:52:35.000 We'll be back tomorrow.

00:52:37.000 Before that, though, I want to thank you both.

00:52:38.000 Thank you, Bashar.

00:52:39.000 Thanks, Adam.

00:52:39.000 Thanks for doing this.

00:52:40.000 I really appreciate it.

00:52:41.000 And we'll be back tomorrow.

00:52:43.000 I'm going to be speaking with Michael Schellenberger about censorship, the about-turn at Facebook, the oligarchy.

00:52:50.000 who are now in congregation around the new President Trump I hope that your country Bodes well under its new stewardship, and I would like to add that true sovereignty is to be found within you in a relationship to the most potent force there is, a loving creator.

00:53:09.000 Human beings come and go.

00:53:11.000 Perhaps love is our one chance at eternity.

00:53:14.000 Love and devotion to him, for me as a Christian, but I accept that's not everybody's path.

00:53:19.000 Thanks so much for joining me today.

00:53:20.000 I'll see you tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

00:53:23.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 20, 2025

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