Stay Free - Russel Brand - IRS Insider BREAKS Silence on Hunter’s Sweetheart Deal!! - #156 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

00:00:00.000 I'm a veteran, and I could never be a veteran on the streets.

00:00:25.000 I'm a veteran, and I could never be a veteran on the streets.

00:00:33.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:00:45.000 There you Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me on Stay Free with Russell Brand exclusively on Rumble.

00:00:49.000 I say exclusively, we're streaming right now on YouTube, but can that go on forever with the censorship industrial complex rising up like a mighty binary titan devouring all before it with its great fangs of censorship and I don't mean Lee Fang there, he's

00:01:03.000 one of the reliable ones, him, Taibbi, Schellenberger, Barry Weiss, Greenwald, there are

00:01:07.000 great journalists out there, let us know your personal favourites in the chat below, we love

00:01:11.000 them all. If you're not watching this on Locals right now, watch us on Locals, you only have

00:01:15.000 to press the red button like Ashella and Claude and Miles Driver, free to you better

00:01:19.000 believe there's going to be free speech because free speech leads to more freedom. That's

00:01:24.000 what I believe and I'm pretty damn sure my on-screen assistant Gareth Roy is of a like

00:01:27.000 mind, are you?

00:01:28.000 I certainly am Russell.

00:01:29.000 That's the way we see the world together and that's how we manage to just jog along talking

00:01:33.000 about some of the stories that are defining our culture and defining our time.

00:01:38.000 When we leave YouTube in a minute, and we love you, you 6.4 million Awakening Wonders, it's simply because we're going to discuss stories that we cannot openly discuss on this platform.

00:01:46.000 For example, there's an inquiry going on in our country, the United Kingdom, about the COVID pandemic era.

00:01:52.000 And measures that were taken that were ineffective with one scientist, in fact, the head of the scientific team that provided COVID guidance, admitting that the lockdowns were political rather than scientific.

00:02:03.000 And I'm looking to Gareth now because he knows the law and he knows how draconian these measures can be.

00:02:08.000 And we do not want a strike, baby, unless it's a global strike of the world's working people coming together in order to decentralise power and create new democracies.

00:02:16.000 We're going to be talking about that story and Matt Hancock's testimony.

00:02:20.000 A little bit later, but you'll have to join us on Rumble for that.

00:02:22.000 There's a link in the description.

00:02:24.000 We'll also be taking an interesting look at the Titan's submersive implosion.

00:02:29.000 What does that story really tell us?

00:02:31.000 What does it tell us about economics?

00:02:32.000 What does it tell us about the value of certain lives?

00:02:34.000 What does it tell us about new exotic extreme tourism?

00:02:38.000 What does it tell us about the deep Jungian archetypes that are being explored at this epochal time,

00:02:45.000 this end of an era?

00:02:47.000 But first of all, what kind of Rumble news show would we be if we didn't talk about the Hunter Biden

00:02:54.000 whistleblower story?

00:02:55.000 Someone from the IRS has come forward.

00:02:58.000 Let me know if you're following this stuff.

00:02:59.000 If you're watching this on Rumble, press the red button and join us on Locals.

00:03:01.000 That's where all the questions are.

00:03:02.000 You're gonna love it.

00:03:04.000 A whistleblower has come forward to say that anybody else who had done what Hunter Biden's done,

00:03:10.000 and I say this with compassion to a fellow drug addict, anyone else would be in prison.

00:03:15.000 That's what he said, isn't it?

00:03:16.000 He's also saying that basically this investigation where they were prevented from taking investigative measures that could have led to Joe Biden.

00:03:16.000 Yep.

00:03:25.000 So it's not just now about this whistleblowers is not making these claims just about Hunter No.

00:03:32.000 They prevented the investigation from going further lest it should lead all the way to Joe Biden.

00:03:40.000 Now that's an allegation.

00:03:41.000 That's not true.

00:03:42.000 But that is the testimony of this whistleblower.

00:03:45.000 I'm asking you this question directly.

00:03:45.000 Who do you believe?

00:03:47.000 I'm looking into your eyes and I'm asking you.

00:03:49.000 Who do you believe?

00:03:51.000 This whistleblower from the IRS who's saying that anybody else who had done this would be in jail.

00:03:56.000 Or do you go, stay on the single for this, darling. 0.88

00:03:58.000 Come on, look at what I'm doing.

00:03:59.000 I'm leaning into the camera.

00:04:00.000 Come on, sweetheart. 1.00

00:04:02.000 Or do you believe your own president, Joe Biden?

00:04:07.000 Let's have a look at the whistleblower.

00:04:11.000 Would have already served their sentence.

00:04:13.000 There were personal expenses that were taken as business expenses. 0.98

00:04:18.000 Prostitutes, sex club memberships, hotel rooms for purported drug dealers. 0.97

00:04:24.000 How much did Hunter Biden owe? 1.00

00:04:26.000 That's quite compassionate, to provide a hotel room for a drug dealer.

00:04:29.000 Because, you know, there's bring your daughter to work day, there's provide your drug dealer with a hotel room day. 0.91

00:04:36.000 What you cannot question is Hunter Biden's hospitality.

00:04:41.000 I'll take two of each.

00:04:43.000 Would you like a junior suite at the Holiday Inn?

00:04:48.000 These are just things that are, of course, being alleged.

00:04:50.000 And again, I continually reiterate this out of kind of solidarity for those of you that know people with addiction issues.

00:04:56.000 But I suppose out of the interest of egalitarianism, you have to ask.

00:05:01.000 Like, you know, I'm an addict and there's been consequences to my addiction.

00:05:06.000 How's this dude getting away with this stuff?

00:05:07.000 I mean, the text messages to the Chinese business partner, it's not absolutely, definitely known.

00:05:16.000 The veracity of these text messages, as I know, is still a matter of question and inquiry.

00:05:21.000 But it seems in a single text message, The figure of Joe Biden is mentioned three times.

00:05:26.000 My father's right here.

00:05:27.000 I don't know how my father's going to feel about this deal.

00:05:29.000 And according to this IRS whistleblower, this inquiry, if properly undertaken, would have led all the way to the White House.

00:05:36.000 Let me know in the chat how you feel about this.

00:05:38.000 While Donald Trump's being indicted, we're going to be looking at that in more detail later in the show.

00:05:42.000 No, we're not.

00:05:43.000 We're going to be looking at that tomorrow.

00:05:44.000 We've got some great stuff on that story for you tomorrow.

00:05:44.000 We're going to look.

00:05:46.000 While Donald Trump's being indicted for the old rifling through the censorship shoebox there, Oh, look at this one.

00:05:52.000 That's secret.

00:05:53.000 I definitely shouldn't be showing you this one.

00:05:55.000 Tell me now!

00:05:55.000 What's worse?

00:05:56.000 Who do you think's worse?

00:05:57.000 Can we have a poll on this?

00:05:58.000 Is it possible to have a poll?

00:06:00.000 What's worse?

00:06:01.000 Is it being tangentially connected and shutting down an inquiry or is it rifling through the shoebox?

00:06:07.000 Can we get a poll?

00:06:08.000 Is it possible to have a poll?

00:06:09.000 You know I love a poll.

00:06:09.000 Oh yeah.

00:06:10.000 Let's have a look at the rest of this whistleblower.

00:06:13.000 So from 2014 to 2019, it was $2.2 million.

00:06:16.000 I documented exactly what happened, and it doesn't seem to match what the Attorney General or the U.S.

00:06:22.000 Attorney are saying today.

00:06:23.000 It was just shocking to me.

00:06:25.000 There were certain investigative steps that we weren't allowed to take that could have led us to President Biden.

00:06:32.000 And you wanted to take them?

00:06:34.000 We needed to take them.

00:06:35.000 And you weren't allowed to take them?

00:06:37.000 That's correct.

00:06:38.000 That's impeding an investigation.

00:06:39.000 You have to put that alongside the previous allegation that the CIA were evoked in order to shut down the laptop story.

00:06:49.000 The chat is lighting up and you are not going to want to miss it.

00:06:52.000 Some people in Drummo saying, well, what if in the text message he was lying about Joe Biden being in the room?

00:06:57.000 But was he lying about his dad being in the room?

00:07:00.000 Primal Colin, what does tangential mean?

00:07:01.000 Tangential means off, out.

00:07:03.000 Also, I think to that comment, the point to that comment there is that they do know through internet records that he was at Joe Biden's house when he sent that message.

00:07:20.000 Well, it's likely.

00:07:21.000 I mean, if you're in his house, it's not unthinkable that he would be in the room.

00:07:23.000 Although Joe Biden, he does sometimes, and here's the word tangent again, he does sometimes wander off a tangent.

00:07:29.000 Joe Biden, he might have been in his house one minute, gone out to, I don't know, mow the lawn, water some plants, carried on walking.

00:07:35.000 Ended up in Delaware or something.

00:07:37.000 He's in Delaware, wrapped up in a blanket, giving a speech about corn pop somewhere at the side of a freeway, shouting at passing cars, corn pop!

00:07:44.000 Let me sniff you on the scalp! 1.00

00:07:46.000 Allegedly.

00:07:48.000 So what's this about a second whistleblower saying that they moved cash through China?

00:07:52.000 Is that washing it?

00:07:53.000 Is that giving it a little wash?

00:07:54.000 This is allegedly that he's used basically China to deal with a tax issue.

00:08:01.000 It's just a kind of tax evasion issue that he evaded paying a portion of his taxes by moving his earnings from Burisma to a Chinese firm and then getting the money back through a loan and this is what one of the IRS whistleblowers has testified.

00:08:14.000 So again, kind of murky, underhand, potentially legal, although... Do you know what I think?

00:08:21.000 Whoever's running the IRS, poor they've been charged with the CIA and the FBI.

00:08:26.000 They're always the ones, if you notice this, their investigations are always better.

00:08:29.000 I mean it's almost hackneyed to observe that Al Capone was eventually, and not that I'm saying that the Biden's a crime family, I am not Saying that the Bidens are a crime family.

00:08:39.000 But Capone was brought down because of tax matters.

00:08:42.000 I say, put the head of the IRS in charge of the FBI.

00:08:46.000 Is that a crazy dream?

00:08:47.000 Is it just a kid with a pipe dream?

00:08:49.000 What's this?

00:08:49.000 The Bidens are the best.

00:08:50.000 House Oversight releases stunning text Hunter Biden apparently sent to Chinese executive.

00:08:55.000 What's this one?

00:08:56.000 What is this one?

00:08:57.000 We've got so many stories.

00:08:58.000 Are you able to keep up with this?

00:08:59.000 Press the red button and join us on Locals.

00:09:01.000 Join the chat.

00:09:02.000 Join the chat.

00:09:03.000 What's this?

00:09:04.000 Two whistleblowers.

00:09:05.000 Whistleblowers, people are talking about a number of whistleblowers.

00:09:07.000 So this is the second whistleblower.

00:09:08.000 So apparently he allegedly texted a Chinese business executive bragging about his ability to serve his client.

00:09:15.000 And this is in the text.

00:09:16.000 The Bidens are the best I know, being one of them, I would imagine.

00:09:20.000 He's moving in a small circle though, the lad.

00:09:22.000 And he only knows the Clintons and the Bidens.

00:09:24.000 We're better than the Clintons.

00:09:25.000 I mean, have you seen where that guy goes on holiday?

00:09:29.000 Every year!

00:09:29.000 I've not seen him pay a penny for it!

00:09:31.000 Bill Clinton, when did he ever pay for an airfare?

00:09:33.000 He's always on the same plane, always free, always sitting up the front, always turns left on his way in, always first class, never coach for Bill.

00:09:43.000 Get that saxophone out, baby! 1.00

00:09:45.000 Keep them lips a-pumping! 0.99

00:09:48.000 Go on, hit us with a fact. 1.00

00:09:49.000 I could do sex during it. 0.99

00:09:50.000 This is the text message. The Bidens are the best I know at doing exactly what the chairman wants from this partnership, 0.98

00:09:55.000 Hunter Biden texted, according to the House Oversight Committee.

00:09:57.000 The following day, one of Biden's shell companies was paid $100,000 from CEFC, the committee discovered.

00:10:03.000 So this is essentially, again, kind of more bragging and more communication between Hunter Biden and previously it's

00:10:11.000 been Burisma, now it's these Chinese firms that he's been involved in.

00:10:14.000 And the whole thing is basically, should he have been able to use the influence of his father, whether or not this,

00:10:21.000 you know, bribery thing is something that they were paid $5 million each to stop.

00:10:26.000 That's what an FBI informant claims isn't it?

00:10:29.000 Whether or not that's true or not.

00:10:30.000 Allegedly.

00:10:31.000 The situation that they were being in, they were obviously making a lot of money that then he wasn't paying taxes on, is a serious issue.

00:10:38.000 Sounds pretty serious to me.

00:10:39.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:10:40.000 Press the red button and join us on Locals.

00:10:42.000 We have got a fantastic week coming up for you.

00:10:47.000 Here's some facts for you.

00:10:48.000 Jack Dorsey, he's back on.

00:10:50.000 We almost lost Jack Dorsey through bad Wi-Fi when that guy left Big Tech.

00:10:54.000 He really left Big Tech.

00:10:55.000 Not only am I not running Twitter no more, not only, I wanna know, what's he gonna say

00:10:59.000 about the Twitter files?

00:11:00.000 Why didn't you do Twitter files, Jack Dorsey?

00:11:02.000 That's my first question.

00:11:03.000 Tell me what other questions you've got for Jack Dorsey.

00:11:04.000 He leaves Twitter, he can't even get Wi-Fi no more.

00:11:06.000 What does he do?

00:11:07.000 Throws his phone over his shoulder, he wants to be among the literal budge. 0.79

00:11:10.000 If that's not enough for you, RFK is coming back on, and me and RFK were in regular contact.

00:11:15.000 Those of you that saw the show yesterday would have saw me spontaneously messaging RFK with

00:11:20.000 me top off, which even as I say out loud, doesn't seem like the right thing to do, does

00:11:23.000 it?

00:11:24.000 So I took my top off, I don't wanna say sexted, but I texted, voice noted RFK, and I laid

00:11:32.000 down a challenge, and RFK has accepted that challenge.

00:11:34.000 We are going to do a pull-up challenge to raise money for his campaign.

00:11:39.000 My big concern is, am I going to be able to beat him?

00:11:42.000 Now, while you're telling us who do you think should be facing indictment, Trump or Biden, let us know that.

00:11:47.000 Who should be facing indictment?

00:11:48.000 Let me know who do you think is going to win the pull-up challenge.

00:11:51.000 Have you been prancing?

00:11:52.000 Yeah, I have been.

00:11:53.000 I was practicing earlier.

00:11:54.000 I'm ready to juice, baby.

00:11:55.000 How many can you do at the moment?

00:11:57.000 I can do three.

00:11:58.000 I am ready, so as long as he can only do two, I'm going to be rich!

00:12:02.000 I'm not going to be rich, because I'm giving it back to the campaign.

00:12:05.000 I'm moving between six and seven, but that's narrow grip.

00:12:07.000 The true pull-up is the wide grip.

00:12:09.000 I've got to move to wide grip, and I'm not going to be able to do that without bum jabs.

00:12:13.000 It's pull-ups, it's not push-ups.

00:12:15.000 I know!

00:12:16.000 Push-ups! 1.00

00:12:16.000 He says pull-ups! 1.00

00:12:17.000 He said pull-ups!

00:12:20.000 He better check!

00:12:21.000 I think, let me just see what he said.

00:12:23.000 Let me see what he says.

00:12:24.000 And he says he loves me, so that's good, isn't it?

00:12:26.000 He says, looking forward to our workout, RB.

00:12:29.000 Let's do a pull-up contest! 1.00

00:12:30.000 Pull-ups!

00:12:31.000 How do we make money out of that?

00:12:32.000 I'm gonna start juicing, hope you don't have strong views on Big Pharma.

00:12:35.000 I said, pretty good joke, I thought, let me know if you like that joke.

00:12:37.000 There he goes, let me see if we can devise a way.

00:12:39.000 Right, so then he says he loves me.

00:12:41.000 So, let's do it, let's raise some money for RFK's campaign.

00:12:45.000 Who do you think's gonna win?

00:12:46.000 Have you seen how jacked that guy is?

00:12:47.000 Yeah, well we saw that video where he was doing push-ups, but he seemed like he could only do two or three.

00:12:52.000 Maybe he's hustling you, who knows?

00:12:54.000 It's like the classic hustle.

00:12:56.000 He does a couple of push-ups, Oh, I can't do it.

00:12:59.000 I don't know how I got these.

00:13:01.000 I don't know where these big bad babies come from. 1.00

00:13:04.000 He knows.

00:13:05.000 Where do you think I found those?

00:13:06.000 There in the back of the sofa?

00:13:07.000 Where do you think I found those?

00:13:09.000 Investigating Big Pharma?

00:13:10.000 Where did these guys come from?

00:13:12.000 Prosecuting Monsanto?

00:13:15.000 No, he's hustling!

00:13:16.000 He's hustling.

00:13:17.000 That's the very kind of hustler you need running the United States. 0.98

00:13:17.000 He's a hustler. 0.98

00:13:19.000 A hustler for good.

00:13:20.000 You don't have to give up your hustle.

00:13:21.000 You don't have to give up your muscle.

00:13:23.000 You don't have to give up your rustle.

00:13:25.000 You just have to face it in the holy direction of our Lord and bring about the utopian spiritual revolution we're craving, baby.

00:13:32.000 You've started taking those pills already, have you?

00:13:33.000 I've on them tablets, they make me feel unusual, Gareth!

00:13:36.000 I've got a headache in my body!

00:13:38.000 Now, this topsy-turvy carnival world continues to rotate and vacillate in extraordinary directions.

00:13:45.000 I ain't ever met a big-tech billionaire who ain't having a cage fight.

00:13:49.000 I'm in a pull-up competition with RFK.

00:13:51.000 Elon Musk and our man Lex Freedman are practicing BJJ.

00:13:56.000 There's no footage of it, I think, just stills.

00:13:59.000 Lex's tweet, a big shout-out to Lex I've got to do this show when I'm over there in October.

00:14:03.000 Lex, he's training everyone, isn't he, Lex?

00:14:05.000 He's going to train Elon Musk.

00:14:06.000 He's training Zuckerberg.

00:14:07.000 That's the kind of conflict of interest we're trying to shut down, isn't it?

00:14:10.000 I bet as well, isn't it, Lex?

00:14:12.000 He's been to BJJ for 15 years.

00:14:14.000 He's got 10 years of judo experience.

00:14:15.000 He's going to be a serious, serious martial arts practitioner.

00:14:19.000 Even when I heard him explain what BJJ was, I felt a bit scared.

00:14:25.000 Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a martial art where you seek positions of dominance and then achieve submissions by breaking an arm or a leg or choking a person out.

00:14:33.000 God, I'm actually a bit scared of that.

00:14:36.000 I'm a bit scared of what's being said.

00:14:40.000 I'm out.

00:14:41.000 I'm tapping out.

00:14:42.000 Oh, that'll do.

00:14:42.000 That sounds intimidating.

00:14:44.000 That's before anyone's put on a bloody rash guard or a gi or anything.

00:14:48.000 I'm a bag of nerves.

00:14:50.000 Nevertheless, Friedman is training both Zuckerberg and Musk.

00:14:53.000 And we're asking, and we're going to delve into this over the course of the week, was Elon Musk Is it his cage fight with Zuckerberg, which Lex Freeman

00:15:01.000 does acknowledge here in his tweet that it's a sort of a bizarre carnivalesque sideshow, or is

00:15:06.000 it his fight against the EU?

00:15:07.000 You might not know this because you're probably in North America right now.

00:15:09.000 Let us know where you are. Are you in Canada, home of freedom?

00:15:12.000 Are you in America, where you're being closed down on in all sorts of crazy ways?

00:15:16.000 Are you with us in Europe?

00:15:18.000 What's being threatened is new legislation in the EU that will mean that Twitter could be literally booted out of

00:15:25.000 Europe altogether.

00:15:26.000 All together. All together.

00:15:28.000 Or find up to 6% of their turnover.

00:15:30.000 This will apply to all big tech platforms.

00:15:32.000 But as you know, most big tech platforms, they're going to roll with that, right?

00:15:35.000 I mean, are we still on YouTube?

00:15:37.000 Should we get off YouTube before we get into this?

00:15:38.000 We probably should.

00:15:39.000 We're going to get into this.

00:15:39.000 We better get off YouTube.

00:15:40.000 Now, look, if you're watching us on YouTube, you've got to click the link in the description because I'm hankering after free stuff.

00:15:44.000 I'm nearly taking my bloody top off again.

00:15:46.000 I'm getting RFK style.

00:15:47.000 You know what happens when he does that.

00:15:49.000 That's when the freedom starts flowing.

00:15:50.000 A future president gets texted.

00:15:52.000 The top comes off and Future Presidents gets texted.

00:15:55.000 I'm lactating freedom right out of these babies.

00:15:58.000 The sweet milk of freedom is flowing your way.

00:16:00.000 If you're watching us on Rumble, press the red button now and join us in the chat.

00:16:04.000 Who's going to do more pull-ups? 0.90

00:16:05.000 Is it going to be me or RFK?

00:16:07.000 Who should be indicted?

00:16:08.000 Is it Trump or Biden? 0.99

00:16:09.000 What kind of justice is there if there's no moral centre to this corrupt, hypocritical system? 0.97

00:16:15.000 And how are we going to overcome our differences to confront it?

00:16:18.000 That's something I'll be talking about later in the week in our Censorship Industrial Complex conversation with me, Schellenberger, and Tayibi.

00:16:23.000 Special guest appearance from, oh, I can't even say.

00:16:26.000 Next week, we've got a big one.

00:16:27.000 We've got a big one.

00:16:28.000 There's no way I'm announcing that on YouTube.

00:16:30.000 Shall we get a bit deeper into what the EU are planning to do to make sure that social media sites are corralled and co-opted and controlled in the way that legacy media have been for a long time.

00:16:40.000 The Twitter files revealed, thanks to Schellenberger, Barry Weiss and of course Matt Taibbi, that the deep state are involved in censoring even true information.

00:16:50.000 Zuckerberg admitted that.

00:16:52.000 Um, yeah, okay, okay, okay.

00:16:54.000 Try to ride it out, baby.

00:16:56.000 Ride it out, because I'm still walking towards you.

00:16:57.000 I guess we're off YouTube now.

00:16:58.000 We're off YouTube, are we?

00:16:59.000 Mm.

00:17:00.000 Okay.

00:17:00.000 Uh, like, okay, so... Oh, I can just relax.

00:17:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:03.000 You're right.

00:17:03.000 But you're right.

00:17:04.000 Zuckerberg did admit it.

00:17:05.000 To Lex again.

00:17:05.000 He admitted it!

00:17:06.000 I mean, Lex is everywhere.

00:17:08.000 He's getting people to admit things.

00:17:11.000 He's fighting them.

00:17:12.000 Unbelievable.

00:17:13.000 He's the Zelig of the online news space. 0.57

00:17:16.000 He's appearing everywhere.

00:17:17.000 Maybe that's how to do it.

00:17:18.000 Maybe now we need to literally wrestle these big tech owners to get information out of them.

00:17:23.000 When Jack Dorsey comes on next week, the first thing I'm going to do is get his wrist and give him a real rag around.

00:17:28.000 There you go.

00:17:29.000 I beg your pardon.

00:17:30.000 I'm going to give you a lot of luck, old mate. 0.99

00:17:34.000 I'm going to give you a right twist on his nipple. 1.00

00:17:36.000 Oh that, okay. 1.00

00:17:37.000 I'll get hold of his nipple, I'll twist it like that. 1.00

00:17:39.000 Give us some information. 0.99

00:17:40.000 Come on, tell us the true-true baby.

00:17:43.000 Hit me with the old school true-true Jack Dorsey.

00:17:45.000 Jack Dorsey, RFK, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:17:50.000 Also, the person I can't even name, special guest, let me know in the chat who you think it is, guys.

00:17:54.000 It's so exciting, I can't even tell you out loud.

00:17:56.000 So this new EU censorship law, what is most shocking about it is that bureaucrats are now using the language of war and violence.

00:18:04.000 Let me tell you specifically what I mean.

00:18:07.000 What's he called that dude, Breton?

00:18:08.000 Yeah, Thierry Breton.

00:18:09.000 Thierry Breton is some sort of EU pen-pusher-point-dexter-bureaucrat over at the EU.

00:18:15.000 He's saying, he's honestly saying stuff like this, Gareth will read it to you in a minute, he's saying stuff like, you can run but you can't hide, you don't do what we tell you, we'll kick you up your nutbag, you see these, you'll get a knuckle sandwich, you ready for this, I'll take you down, I'll take you down to Chinatown. 0.57

00:18:28.000 And you fabricated some of that.

00:18:30.000 Some of those things were outright lies, but some of them were true, and that's what I'd like you to focus on.

00:18:34.000 Let's read the story.

00:18:35.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:18:36.000 Yeah, so, um, Thierry Breton, he is the European Union's Internal Markets Commissioner.

00:18:41.000 Ooh.

00:18:42.000 Ooh, you're odd.

00:18:45.000 Ooh, you're an Internal Markets Commissioner.

00:18:48.000 If I had a dime for every EU market commissioner I had to take down, huh? 1.00

00:18:53.000 Ah, you motherfucking nook. 0.98

00:18:55.000 So yeah, he warned Elon Musk the platform cannot hide from obligations to censor content. 0.99

00:18:59.000 You can run, but you can't hide, Britain threatened in a tweet.

00:19:02.000 This followed France's digital minister, Jean-Noel Barraud, threatening Twitter also, saying, Twitter, if it repeatedly doesn't follow our rules, will be banned from the EU altogether.

00:19:12.000 Bretton Fretton's, our new item.

00:19:14.000 Art by Wendy Klein says, I may leave to meditate.

00:19:17.000 No, get back here, Wendy. 0.99

00:19:18.000 I'm not leaving to meditate.

00:19:20.000 Meditate after.

00:19:21.000 If you're a member of Locals, we do regular meditations.

00:19:23.000 You stay here with us.

00:19:25.000 Tell Gareth he's good for Russell.

00:19:27.000 He knows it, but words are powerful.

00:19:29.000 That's from True Chimera.

00:19:32.000 I think what I'm saying, good words.

00:19:34.000 A lot of people are guessing that it's Edward Snowden.

00:19:35.000 No, Snowden, we're working to get Snowden on.

00:19:37.000 We have a good connection with him.

00:19:39.000 It's difficult to reach him because he has to keep his location quite private because people are trying to kill him.

00:19:45.000 So he has to keep it down a little bit.

00:19:48.000 Yeah, this is the Digital Services Act.

00:19:51.000 Sounds very boring, but that's exactly why they do it.

00:19:54.000 They make it sound boring.

00:19:55.000 The DSA, the Digital Services Act, but essentially it's a way of creating legally binding laws to censor the internet.

00:20:03.000 Ultimately, we've seen as emergency laws were passed during the pandemic to pass all sorts of things.

00:20:09.000 We've seen how emergency laws are being passed during the Ukraine conflict at the moment, and now they're being used to essentially police the internet so that companies, exactly as you say, will be fined 6% of their global Uh, earnings, which is, uh, mass billions and billions of dollars, something that, um, you know, Elon can't afford to lose at this time.

00:20:28.000 No one can afford that.

00:20:28.000 That's seismic.

00:20:29.000 That's, uh, that's, uh, that's, that's would bring down a business.

00:20:33.000 I love this bit.

00:20:34.000 The EU are saying that this will be a new law that will allow the bloc to declare a state of emergency on the internet.

00:20:40.000 The law referred to as a crisis mechanism is part of the act.

00:20:43.000 So what they're, remember when earlier we've told you that the WHO want to be able to take

00:20:49.000 5% of your country's health budget for their pandemic response.

00:20:53.000 Now we're telling you that the EU are going to impose laws that entitle them to impose

00:20:58.000 a state of emergency.

00:20:59.000 Who decides what an emergency is?

00:21:01.000 Oh, they do.

00:21:02.000 They decide what an emergency is.

00:21:03.000 Now just cast your mind back to what happened in Canada.

00:21:07.000 We're in a state of emergency.

00:21:08.000 That hasn't been invoked since the Second World War.

00:21:11.000 They used that to shut down people's bank accounts, shut down financial transactions.

00:21:16.000 We said at the time, it's bad enough that it's happening in Canada, but what's more

00:21:20.000 terrifying is it has the potential to become a global phenomena.

00:21:25.000 Now Zuckerberg has admitted he regrets his, I don't want to call it collaboration because

00:21:29.000 I don't want to bad mouth the man because we're trying to get him to come on our show

00:21:32.000 as a matter of fact.

00:21:33.000 We'll wrestle him if that's what it takes.

00:21:35.000 If you have to give someone a violent cuddle, an angry cuddle to get them on your show,

00:21:40.000 by God, I'll do it.

00:21:41.000 But he has said that they sense it debatable or even true information.

00:21:45.000 Here he is saying that on Lex Rieman.

00:21:47.000 So misinformation, I think, has been a really tricky one because there are things that are kind of obviously false, that are maybe factual, but may not be harmful.

00:22:06.000 Um, so it's like, all right, are you going to censor someone for just being wrong?

00:22:10.000 It's, you know, if there's no kind of harm implication.

00:22:12.000 It's like in retrospect, he's arrived at the place like that version of Mark Zuckerberg, surely at the time would have said, well, hang on.

00:22:20.000 Surely we must allow there to be conversation and consensus achieved through consent, through conversation.

00:22:27.000 And then ultimately legislation achieved through democracy.

00:22:31.000 All these ideas are already out there in the space instead of what happened Was they defaulted to totalitarianism?

00:22:37.000 How did they do that?

00:22:38.000 Well, here's my take.

00:22:41.000 The potential impact of COVID was, if not exaggerated, the worst case scenario was used as the barometer.

00:22:49.000 That facilitated aggressive regulation.

00:22:52.000 Simultaneously, the idea that all human life is sacred was used, and indeed that's a principle that I actually agree with.

00:22:58.000 However, you don't see that elsewhere in regulation, legislation, corporate practice, geopolitics.

00:23:03.000 That's not a principle that seems to be in practice elsewhere.

00:23:06.000 Then, they hurried towards a solution that was potentially profitable.

00:23:10.000 I mean, RfK on our show on rumble had a take on this that's just I can't go into it I mean I could go into it now but you can watch it on rumble and he explains it better than I ever could so we found ourselves in a situation where true information was being censored and now even as these tech titans debate and question inquire reflect on whether or not they did the right thing new legislation is emerging that it won't even be a matter of choice they won't be asking people to censor information that's true or debatable they'll be telling them

00:23:41.000 As our man Breton said elsewhere, we will enforce this law.

00:23:46.000 We will enforce this law.

00:23:48.000 Now, I don't remember ever voting for them.

00:23:50.000 Now, Britain left the EU, which everyone says is a universally terrible, terrible decision, but I'm not a fan of these kind of bureaucratic bodies.

00:23:57.000 I'm not a fan of centralised power.

00:23:59.000 I don't believe that they have the moral or political authority to govern life in the way that they have been.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, and again, it all comes down to what is this information?

00:24:09.000 The way of, you know, who decides?

00:24:12.000 Who decides?

00:24:12.000 And so you can essentially get to a position where if you're able to impose a fine on a company for not censoring the kind of things that you decide is disinformation, then they're going to do it, aren't they?

00:24:25.000 And I think as Matt Taibbi pointed out, At that event, we're arriving at a point now where it's not just about what they're censoring of us, but what we're censoring of ourselves.

00:24:36.000 We've got to a point now where we're so scared of free speech and what we can say and what the implications will be that we're now policing ourselves.

00:24:45.000 At least in our community, people are fighting to remain free.

00:24:48.000 This is in the local chat.

00:24:49.000 Press the red button if you want to join it, like SMH56.

00:24:53.000 God does not exert a control over us.

00:24:56.000 Free will is my motto.

00:24:58.000 I'm glad that you lot recognize that free will begins with you, that you have to, at some point, take responsibility for your free will.

00:25:06.000 You remember, of course, that Fauci and Zuckerberg were corresponding.

00:25:09.000 Have a look at that.

00:25:10.000 That was at the advent.

00:25:11.000 Remember, this is just a little while ago.

00:25:13.000 In our climate of amnesia, you're invited to forget this stuff.

00:25:16.000 And meanwhile, it's not just the EU that are imposing these laws.

00:25:20.000 The Five Eyes nations all have online censorship bills that impose economic penalties on platforms that will not toe the line, as well as this

00:25:31.000 new UN hate speech proposal.

00:25:34.000 I mean just look at what talk your way through this like apparently friendly little graph of

00:25:39.000 wonder, pause, fact check, react, challenge. Look at that, it all looks so sort of amenable, human,

00:25:44.000 communicable, easy. Yeah look at it man. Again this is like the third stage to this.

00:25:49.000 So we've already talked about the fact that social media will kind of police itself, will censor itself and censor its users.

00:25:56.000 Then we're talking about policing ourselves, that we're so scared of saying anything that we start to police ourselves.

00:26:02.000 And now this is essentially about snitching on other people.

00:26:05.000 So the United Nations has taken to Twitter in a new campaign to battle speech that it finds objectionable Urging social media users to push back against hateful content and report offenders to the police and other authorities in extreme cases.

00:26:17.000 We're getting to the point where it's like snitching on everyone else.

00:26:20.000 Do you feel afraid to communicate freely?

00:26:23.000 Do you feel that you're being censored?

00:26:25.000 Are you unable to be yourself online?

00:26:27.000 Do you shut yourself down?

00:26:28.000 Tell us now in the chat.

00:26:29.000 Press the red button because I'm telling you that here you can be yourself.

00:26:33.000 You can say whatever you want.

00:26:34.000 We have faith that your free speech will not lead to hate or disinformation.

00:26:38.000 That it will lead to inquiry, discourse, conversation.

00:26:43.000 We are not afraid of free speech here.

00:26:46.000 Freedom of speech is vital here.

00:26:48.000 Where freedom and speech meet, you get free speech.

00:26:51.000 Where free speech meets, you get free-ch.

00:26:53.000 A lot of people saying they feel safe in this community like the unicorn plug Jay Gwynn

00:27:04.000 Hate speech is just anything that could be described as a challenge to the official narrative.

00:27:09.000 A lot of people just simply screaming Freach.

00:27:12.000 People sending love to you, Gareth, like Sensitive Hearts 25.

00:27:16.000 Poisonous.

00:27:17.000 Oh God, the comments are coming in at such a rate.

00:27:20.000 It's very difficult.

00:27:21.000 People are being hacked for their songs.

00:27:22.000 There's a lot going on.

00:27:23.000 I think our community is like a perfect example.

00:27:25.000 I think if people were saying things on there that were so objectionable, and defamatory,

00:27:30.000 and insulting towards other people, I think the community would regulate themselves.

00:27:35.000 They don't need to start snitching on each other, they don't need to start making it 0.54

00:27:38.000 law.

00:27:39.000 For example, True Chimera says, to be honest, I liked the bad graphics, they were fun.

00:27:43.000 And you're free to say that!

00:27:44.000 And we welcome that, because we love Jack.

00:27:46.000 He's a good lad.

00:27:47.000 We love him.

00:27:47.000 He's a good lad.

00:27:48.000 He's just not very good at graphics.

00:27:49.000 But you're right.

00:27:50.000 Like, you have to trust.

00:27:51.000 In the end, you have to acknowledge that, like, I suppose, this is what I believe.

00:27:55.000 I personally don't have the right to regulate or control anybody else's free speech.

00:28:00.000 I don't have that right.

00:28:02.000 And I don't want anyone else imposing it on me.

00:28:05.000 This is where you get into interesting moral arguments, because I've recognised over the years that I'm libertarian, except in so much as I do believe that we have a responsibility towards one another, that community is vital and we should take care of one another.

00:28:16.000 I don't think the state should be imposing that, neither do I think we should live in economic conditions that allow corporate gargantuanism.

00:28:22.000 But what I ultimately believe is I don't want anyone telling me what to do at all about anything.

00:28:27.000 I don't want people telling me to wear a seatbelt.

00:28:29.000 I don't want people telling me to do anything.

00:28:30.000 It's my life.

00:28:31.000 It's my decision.

00:28:32.000 Now, there's an interesting point where the conversation can become complex.

00:28:37.000 For example, do you want the state or any authority interceding if you thought the life of a child was in danger?

00:28:43.000 What if, God forbid, a child wasn't safe in their own home?

00:28:47.000 At what point do you start thinking, oh yeah, I suppose you do need the ability to intervene, because wouldn't you intervene to protect a child?

00:28:54.000 I mean, what, are we to become some vigilante mob of renegades?

00:28:58.000 I do believe that one of the solutions is decentralisation.

00:29:00.000 That many of the problems we face are the problems of scale.

00:29:03.000 When you have communities of hundreds of millions, 50 million, 60 million, you try to create a centralised ideology and then ask everyone to live by it, and it simply doesn't work.

00:29:11.000 If we lived in communities and tribes, of course there's going to be crime, of course there's going to be flaws and fallibility, and even, I suppose, forms of abuse.

00:29:18.000 But the community and tribe can deal with that through their own systems of judiciary, their own systems of law, custom.

00:29:25.000 That's, I guess, what I'm working towards.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, I also think, you know, your example then of protecting a child, your point earlier about whether or not this is about protecting us or controlling us.

00:29:34.000 I think we were talking earlier about you saying that it's about where this is heading towards.

00:29:40.000 It's not necessarily about where we are now, about controlling disinformation at this point because of how, you know, Disinformation can be so, I don't know, how it can affect us negatively.

00:29:52.000 When someone says something actually hateful or something that's untrue.

00:29:55.000 But it's about where they're noticing how the online space is growing.

00:30:00.000 And as we've talked about RFK saying that this election will be the first one won via podcasts and independent media.

00:30:07.000 You've got to wonder if the shutting down of platforms, the censoring of social media

00:30:11.000 sites is not about, oh, it's about hate speech and controlling people being mean to each

00:30:16.000 other, but where this is all leading to.

00:30:18.000 This is great.

00:30:19.000 Ian Drummer says, yes, protect your child from abuse, but not from their parents having

00:30:22.000 a different perspective from the government.

00:30:24.000 And I think that's what's true.

00:30:25.000 At the moment, I think we're at greater risk of people censoring themselves and being censored,

00:30:30.000 controlled and shut down than we are of the kind of egregious horrors that I'm alluding

00:30:36.000 to with the example that we've just outlined.

00:30:40.000 Some of your comments on the Trump leaked audio, Maximum Ties 444.

00:30:44.000 It's wild they're trying to send Trump to prison, but all he's really doing is bringing

00:30:46.000 their corruption to light.

00:30:48.000 That's an interesting perspective.

00:30:49.000 It's one where we've explored, isn't it, mate?

00:30:51.000 Of course, you know, it is by letter of the law, not legal for Trump to share classified

00:30:55.000 documents, but we both believe that some plans are important.

00:30:58.000 They were speculating on Fox yesterday that he leaked it himself.

00:31:02.000 So basically to kind of exonerate himself and to kind of say, look, I was right all along, which would be a mad move if that spot's discovered.

00:31:09.000 But it's a Trump move.

00:31:10.000 It's a Trump move, though.

00:31:11.000 Trump, ironically, thinks outside the box, but he gets his information from inside it. 0.96

00:31:16.000 Apologetic pest.

00:31:17.000 If you had access to classified documents, wouldn't you want to know things?

00:31:20.000 Trump's curiosity has been blown out of proportion.

00:31:24.000 I like the apologetic pest.

00:31:25.000 It's like he's just curious.

00:31:26.000 What's in that box?

00:31:27.000 Oh my god.

00:31:29.000 I think he was allowed to see it when he was president.

00:31:30.000 It's like he's nicked it and showing other people.

00:31:33.000 Our general perspective is that the contents of the box are more significant than the fact that the box's contents have been linked.

00:31:40.000 Hit the red button, join us on Rumble.

00:31:42.000 There's a fantastic conversation going on.

00:31:44.000 People talking about child abductions that are going on.

00:31:47.000 People talking about state intervention when it comes to children.

00:31:50.000 I know when it comes to my kids, I don't want anyone involved in their morality or their ethics.

00:31:55.000 But I don't want to be involved in anyone else's kids' morality and ethics.

00:31:59.000 It seems to me like it's a self-regulating system where most of us just want to be left alone and are willing to accept that we have to leave other people alone as part of the bargain.

00:32:08.000 The problem comes when your morality and ethics are about what other people are doing.

00:32:11.000 What are you doing over there?

00:32:12.000 What's going on down your trousers?

00:32:14.000 It's my own business.

00:32:14.000 People are doing what they're doing.

00:32:15.000 Get on with your own bloody life. 0.95

00:32:17.000 This is on RFK. 0.51

00:32:18.000 Zen Hillbilly says, RFK is now the middle, not left or right.

00:32:22.000 He represents normal common sense.

00:32:23.000 Do you guys agree with that in the chat?

00:32:25.000 Do you think that now, Gareth?

00:32:26.000 Well, I think it's amazing that his content is getting removed from YouTube when he's talking about things like changes to society, changes to the Democrat Party, changes to all sorts of structures.

00:32:38.000 When he's not implicitly kind of talking about vaccines, the thing that they can always like get him on because it contravenes WHO guidelines, but still things are getting removed.

00:32:47.000 He's obviously threatening the establishment.

00:32:50.000 We have a position now where one presidential candidate in the form of Donald Trump is being threatened with indictment, hounded and harangued.

00:32:59.000 Seems to be one take on it.

00:33:00.000 You have RFK, who's campaigning for presidency within a Democrat party, being censored.

00:33:05.000 I mean, that, a few years ago, you would think that that wouldn't be possible, wouldn't you?

00:33:09.000 You think you can't censor a presidential candidate from within the Democratic Party.

00:33:13.000 But at least with Trump, you can say, well, if this is a, you know, legally, if he has done something that is, whether it's right or wrong, You know, legally.

00:33:22.000 Illegal.

00:33:23.000 You can say we've gotten that.

00:33:25.000 But guidelines on YouTube are not laws.

00:33:28.000 They've been, you know, they've come, as you always talk about, they've come from the WHO.

00:33:33.000 You know, RFK's opinion, our opinions, that's all that they are.

00:33:36.000 This is a free speech matter at this point.

00:33:39.000 You could say that Donald Trump would be entitled to free speech about the Iran stuff as well, but I guess they can get him on the...

00:33:45.000 The legal aspect.

00:33:46.000 Barry John Fox on the subject of Musk versus Zuck says, never underestimate a nerd.

00:33:52.000 Musk just needs to train harder.

00:33:55.000 I hope you enjoyed your free speech.

00:33:57.000 Press the red button.

00:33:58.000 Join the locals community.

00:34:00.000 We do regular meditations.

00:34:02.000 We're a right little bunch of darlings over there on Locals.

00:34:05.000 It's a great self-regulating community where free speech is used to inspire open debate and conversation, where we're free to critique establishment narratives and the establishment themselves.

00:34:17.000 But it is self-regulating.

00:34:18.000 There's no need for hate.

00:34:20.000 There's no requirement for hate.

00:34:21.000 But was it ever thus?

00:34:23.000 What went on this week in history?

00:34:26.000 Can you believe that this week in history in 2009, Michael Jackson,

00:34:36.000 the king of pop, he sadly died. Whilst in 1988, Donald Trump, he sat

00:34:42.000 down for a lovely chat with Oprah Winfrey, don't have an impression of

00:34:45.000 her, to talk about his presidential ambitions. And while the US

00:34:48.000 government was busy trying to debunk the Roswell incident, yeah,

00:34:51.000 because I'll tell you, that's one thing all of you lot that think that

00:34:54.000 the UFO stuff is a distraction. You won't believe how the Roswell incident

00:34:57.000 was spoken about in like the 1980s.

00:34:59.000 Some wackos believe there's aliens! 1.00

00:35:02.000 And there's an amazing report that we have from Britain in 1971 where a woman is sent to pinch men's bums, posterior's asses, in the interest of sexual equality. 0.97

00:35:14.000 But this is an important day because on this very day, 52 sweet years of our Lord ago, Elon Musk emerged either by caesarean section or from the reproductive orifice of his mother, Mrs. Musk, Who doesn't want him to fight, apparently? 0.80

00:35:31.000 She says don't fight?

00:35:32.000 She said she doesn't want him to do it.

00:35:34.000 Don't do it, Elon!

00:35:35.000 Don't do it!

00:35:36.000 Resolve your differences with code!

00:35:38.000 With code and speculation and mushrooms, for God's sake!

00:35:43.000 Look at this report of Elon.

00:35:44.000 I think it's on his birthday.

00:35:46.000 He bought himself a supercar for himself on his birthday.

00:35:50.000 Elon Musk was a different dude back then.

00:35:52.000 Let me know in the chat what you think about him.

00:35:54.000 Check him.

00:35:56.000 How's it going?

00:35:56.000 Hi, Elon Musk.

00:35:59.000 I expect to receive a car that I've just bought, which is called McLaren F1.

00:36:07.000 I think he's got the vibe of young Putin in some ways.

00:36:10.000 You know, young Putin who works for us.

00:36:11.000 You know, like he's got the... It now makes me think, young Putin.

00:36:14.000 Have a look in the gallery.

00:36:15.000 Could you face the camera, young Putin, a little bit so we can see you?

00:36:18.000 And in fact, why don't you stand up and move a bit closer to it so we can see you?

00:36:21.000 And would you put on a beige jacket if you have one?

00:36:25.000 Because he won't put... Look, see, he won't cooperate.

00:36:26.000 Now, do you see that?

00:36:27.000 I'm in a way his boss.

00:36:28.000 He's a disruptor.

00:36:30.000 Marvelous.

00:36:31.000 He's a young disruptor.

00:36:32.000 He's a young disruptor.

00:36:33.000 He's not prematurely balding, but he's a young disruptor.

00:36:36.000 I'll tell you that.

00:36:37.000 You want to be nice to him?

00:36:38.000 Because he might own a tech platform.

00:36:40.000 Right.

00:36:40.000 He's just scribbling away the data.

00:36:41.000 Don't let him take any hard drives home.

00:36:43.000 That's what I will tell you.

00:36:44.000 Because I bet you... Oh, he's been doing it for years!

00:36:46.000 He's building his own business!

00:36:48.000 Like, even though he's 28.

00:36:49.000 I don't know, man.

00:36:50.000 Yeah, it's not like you couldn't predict, I suppose, that he was going to go on to become a massive tech titan.

00:36:56.000 It's a sweet piece of news in a way, and it shows you how quickly people change.

00:37:00.000 Because if you look at Trump in 1988, like, he's a lot of things.

00:37:04.000 He's sort of quite handsome, and he's quite suave.

00:37:07.000 And look how much the world's changed.

00:37:08.000 Oprah Winfrey and Donald Trump can have a perfectly congenial chat on the television.

00:37:13.000 It doesn't seem so intense.

00:37:14.000 That's one of the things that we kind of mean.

00:37:16.000 Like, when RFK is presented as an extreme figure, and Trump is presented as an extreme figure, you feel like it's extremeness itself is being amplified as a concept.

00:37:26.000 I remember we used to all just be out chatting to each other.

00:37:28.000 Oh, you're a conspiracy theorist?

00:37:29.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:37:30.000 Oh, you're a bit right-wing?

00:37:31.000 Oh, yeah, a bit right-wing.

00:37:32.000 Oh, you're not racist or nothing?

00:37:33.000 Oh, no, no, no, none of that, except in maybe an unconscious way.

00:37:36.000 People used to just be out chatting about stuff.

00:37:37.000 Oh, you're left-wing?

00:37:38.000 You don't want to centralise all power and execute people down Gulags? 0.98

00:37:40.000 No, no, we're just thinking a bit more money on hospitals.

00:37:43.000 Everything seems to have gone out of hand.

00:37:45.000 Look at Donald Trump.

00:37:45.000 He's maybe a bit sexier, but he's definitely not so Trumpy.

00:37:50.000 He's like Trumped himself right up.

00:37:52.000 Have a look at him on Oprah.

00:37:54.000 I'll talk to you about whether or not you want to run.

00:37:55.000 Would you ever?

00:37:57.000 Probably not.

00:37:59.000 Oh, we're a bit frozen.

00:38:00.000 We're frozen on that image.

00:38:01.000 We froze on Oprah there.

00:38:03.000 And someone says, oddly, in the chat, she looks like Medusa.

00:38:06.000 That's apologetic pest.

00:38:07.000 And Medusa, of course, turned people to stone. 1.00

00:38:09.000 Well, she clearly glanced in a mirror there. 0.99

00:38:12.000 And I've got nothing against Oprah.

00:38:13.000 I once saw her directing a show.

00:38:15.000 from the gallery when I was on Rosie O'Donnell's show.

00:38:17.000 And Oprah, man, she was powerful. 0.54

00:38:19.000 And then I got back to my dressing room and I was explaining to someone, oh man, Oprah Winfrey, I just see her directing the show with no shoes on. 0.78

00:38:25.000 And then she just swung open the door of the dressing room and came in and I was talking about her.

00:38:29.000 And I wasn't saying anything disrespectful, but I was talking about her.

00:38:32.000 But you know, I thought, oh, I'm not going to act like I wasn't talking about her.

00:38:35.000 So I'll just go, All right, Oprah!

00:38:37.000 I was just talking about you there, saying how I saw you directing the show from the gallery, and I just watched her, as I've seen with many powerful famous people before, sort of shut herself down from me.

00:38:51.000 Not this guy.

00:38:51.000 You're like RFK.

00:38:53.000 You're gone.

00:38:53.000 You're out from YouTube.

00:38:55.000 But since then, actually, I have been on one of Oprah's shows talking about addiction and all that, getting better with her, so that's all good.

00:39:01.000 Let's have a look again.

00:39:04.000 Audio in here, baby.

00:39:06.000 Would you ever?

00:39:08.000 Probably not.

00:39:10.000 But I do get tired of seeing the country.

00:39:12.000 There's two tracks of sync.

00:39:14.000 Tidy that stuff up for us.

00:39:16.000 Let's see if you can make it work.

00:39:18.000 Can you test it in there?

00:39:20.000 Maybe young Putin won't be able to come a tech titan.

00:39:22.000 Although maybe Elon then couldn't.

00:39:24.000 But there's power.

00:39:25.000 This is what you get now.

00:39:27.000 Imagine in 10 years time when he's running.

00:39:29.000 Turn it off, let it quiesce, restart, you're welcome.

00:39:33.000 That's from Miles Driver.

00:39:34.000 They're actually providing practical online help.

00:39:38.000 Let's go to the next clip actually.

00:39:39.000 Let's go to the Roswell clip.

00:39:42.000 This is the US Air Force.

00:39:44.000 This is the denial of Roswell.

00:39:46.000 The way they talk about Roswell now, those of you that think that all this UFO stuff is a conspiracy, what's Gut Bucket?

00:39:53.000 Can someone explain please?

00:39:55.000 That's Putin's new business venture.

00:39:57.000 Join us on Gut Bucket, the only social media site you can trust.

00:40:01.000 You better copyright patent that name right now says I own it because I want to be in the background like if he's gonna be Musk I'm gonna be Bill Gates silently running things.

00:40:09.000 What was you doing on that airplane?

00:40:10.000 I don't know.

00:40:11.000 I just like him.

00:40:11.000 He's alright He was just helping me for charity stuff.

00:40:14.000 What you went to the island 20 times.

00:40:15.000 I thought it was just an holiday Alright, so let's have a look at all the news.

00:40:19.000 Now, those of you that think that the UFO stuff's a distraction, check out how the news used to speak about it in 1997.

00:40:25.000 This is on ABC or one of your mainstream news channels.

00:40:28.000 They're like, some nutjobs think UFOs are real!

00:40:30.000 And they're totally carrying the propaganda around Roswell, which I've heard off the record from a very credible journalist, was a total, legit incident that live and dead extraterrestrials were recovered from that incident.

00:40:44.000 The diplomatic relationships began at that time between the United... I mean, I know that's pretty out there stuff.

00:40:49.000 But anyway... Well, it's not out there if you're going to take these whistleblowers at their word at the moment.

00:40:54.000 Those whistleblowers... Them tell the truthio, do you think?

00:40:57.000 Have you ever known there'd be so many whistleblowers?

00:40:59.000 There's a lot of whistleblowers.

00:41:01.000 So many whistles, you can't... It's like tinnitus.

00:41:07.000 They're all lining up everywhere now.

00:41:09.000 The IRS ain't right.

00:41:11.000 There's UFOs everywhere, buddy.

00:41:13.000 The FBI's not being run proper. 1.00

00:41:16.000 I got a tattoo of you on my dick. 1.00

00:41:18.000 That's the FBI, remember? 1.00

00:41:20.000 That espionage act is going to be used quite a lot, isn't it?

00:41:22.000 Will some people ever be convinced it's UFOs again, we fear.

00:41:24.000 Get the old espionage act, you can bang up anyone for that, can't you?

00:41:27.000 Yeah, you should have a whistle. The unicorn plug says there should be a whistleblower emoji.

00:41:31.000 Good idea, let's get one, see if you can make one.

00:41:33.000 Young Putin, that'll be his first billion.

00:41:35.000 Oh, invented the whistleblower emoji.

00:41:35.000 Hmm.

00:41:38.000 Yeah, let's have a look at the news criticizing bloody Roswell, saying it ain't real.

00:41:42.000 Will some people ever be convinced it's UFOs again, we fear?

00:41:42.000 Check it.

00:41:46.000 Yesterday we told you about the Air Force's latest attempt to close the case on the so-called

00:41:50.000 Roswell incident.

00:41:51.000 That's not so-called Roswell, that's just the place name.

00:41:54.000 Like, they're actually, like, breaking that down.

00:41:57.000 So-called Roswell.

00:41:58.000 Who's to say there even is a Roswell?

00:42:00.000 As in aliens seen in Roswell, New Mexico 50 years ago.

00:42:04.000 Today the Pentagon released videotape it thought would settle the issue.

00:42:07.000 He's already in the cynical mood before he's got to the information that requires it.

00:42:12.000 Okay, so now it's time for Roswell, which is a...

00:42:15.000 Place in America!

00:42:18.000 No, this isn't the cynical bit yet.

00:42:19.000 This is just the normal bit.

00:42:20.000 Be cynical when you start saying, they say there's aliens there.

00:42:23.000 Oh, just don't.

00:42:24.000 Just report the news.

00:42:25.000 It's the same as now, isn't it?

00:42:27.000 Just say the news!

00:42:28.000 Stop editorialising it!

00:42:29.000 Tell us the news, then we'll decide.

00:42:31.000 Like, you don't have to intone like it's a sort of, like a subcontinental language.

00:42:37.000 They have to intone that it's true or not true.

00:42:40.000 Give us the information and we'll decide whether we believe it or not, won't we?

00:42:44.000 We'll make it, we'll decide it in our own heads.

00:42:45.000 Right.

00:42:46.000 In our own private lives.

00:42:47.000 Exactly.

00:42:48.000 Down in our own trousers.

00:42:49.000 And in the end of the... Oh!

00:42:51.000 There was nothing there, the Air Force says, but as ABC's Barry Serafin reports, good luck.

00:42:58.000 The Air Force tried to explain everything and had video to back it up.

00:43:02.000 People who saw these saucer-like objects it said were actually looking at NASA space probes tested in New Mexico in the 1960s and 70s.

00:43:10.000 And they made them after and put them there.

00:43:12.000 Did you hear that first sentence?

00:43:13.000 The Pentagon had everything and tried to explain everything.

00:43:16.000 Like, they're basically doing the Pentagon's bidding for them as they do now.

00:43:20.000 Exactly as they do now.

00:43:21.000 It's just in a different context now.

00:43:22.000 Now they'll just have people from the Pentagon on the news to be like, this is why we need to go to war.

00:43:27.000 Back then it was, the Pentagon's done all they can to try and explain to these not-jobs why these things are perfectly explainable. 0.99

00:43:33.000 Do the same thing, basically.

00:43:34.000 Do you know as well, at the time, if you guys check this out, like there was a sort of a local news report at the time going, some aliens have landed in Roswell and we have greeted them and they're a great bunch of guys!

00:43:45.000 There's a spaceship, look it's over there!

00:43:48.000 I thought that off, like Building 7 style.

00:43:51.000 Like I just went, oh yeah, it's a weather balloon, I don't know.

00:43:54.000 What was that you were saying yesterday?

00:43:55.000 I don't remember any of that.

00:43:56.000 Like there's an initial sort of rather innocent report.

00:43:59.000 It's not as dramatic as I've just outlined.

00:44:01.000 You know me, I exaggerate.

00:44:02.000 But like they changed it and subbed it in for the preferred propaganda.

00:44:06.000 Like Building 7, where there's just the news people going, well look, there's this building blowing up.

00:44:10.000 We don't know who did that.

00:44:11.000 Well, that never existed.

00:44:12.000 Don't ever mention it again.

00:44:14.000 These silvery devices, it said, were actually radar reflectors from a secret project in 1947.

00:44:20.000 And these were not aliens, but dummies.

00:44:23.000 Made all this stuff in the 50s and 60s, though, innit?

00:44:25.000 Like, in the 1940s, like, you know, they've clearly gone, oh, look, like, the one bit in this bit coming up in a second, they say they put the mannequins in body bags.

00:44:34.000 Why would you do that?

00:44:35.000 Oh, no, this... Just thrown it from space.

00:44:39.000 They say, oh, we need to protect them, so we put them in body bags.

00:44:42.000 Out of respect. 1.00

00:44:44.000 So stupid. 1.00

00:44:45.000 Out of respect for the dignity of this mannequin, we're zipping it up in a body bag. 1.00

00:44:50.000 We don't want you to... Well, you're just for our fucking satellite. 1.00

00:44:52.000 Yeah, but we don't want you to see its dick. 0.99

00:44:56.000 High-altitude ejection tests in the 50s. 0.97

00:44:59.000 but the answers just triggered more questions since the new pictures were mainly from the 50s and

00:45:04.000 60s. Amazing that thing on its own merits that sort of weird jellyfish balloon. I'd be pretty

00:45:09.000 happy with that. 60s while the Roswell Flying Saucer reports occurred earlier in 1947. Well

00:45:16.000 I'm afraid that's a problem that we have with time compression. But cool because even though

00:45:22.000 this ain't that long ago 1997 I still feel like you don't get deep south generals cropping up on

00:45:26.000 the TV with the same regularity.

00:45:28.000 This guy sounds like, well listen, it's time compression, which for me sounds more amazing than aliens if you can compress time, that's pretty crazy.

00:45:35.000 Towards the end of it though, there's a really crazy bit where he goes, is this true?

00:45:38.000 Like this stuff, do you believe it?

00:45:40.000 Do you believe it?

00:45:40.000 They ask some questions, one of them goes, how do we know we can trust you?

00:45:43.000 How do you know that you've been told the truth?

00:45:45.000 Really interesting inquiries actually from the Look at that!

00:45:48.000 are assembled for that conference.

00:45:48.000 Shift D!

00:45:49.000 And he sort of does this mad expression.

00:45:51.000 Those of you that are into body language and stuff will blatantly see it.

00:45:54.000 He sort of goes, he tightens his lips up, and then sort of looks off to the side

00:45:59.000 like he's starring in a photograph called The Face I Do When I'm Lying.

00:46:03.000 You can show, oh yeah, just show, yeah, just the end bit.

00:46:06.000 Do you believe in UFOs?

00:46:07.000 Personally, no, sir.

00:46:09.000 But millions do.

00:46:10.000 Look at that, shift D.

00:46:12.000 Wow. 0.97

00:46:13.000 Did you have sexual relations with that woman? 0.99

00:46:16.000 Do do do do do do do do do do do do. 0.98

00:46:20.000 Going over to Baker Street.

00:46:22.000 Do do do do.

00:46:23.000 I ain't paying for no planes.

00:46:24.000 I don't need to.

00:46:25.000 I got a buddy.

00:46:28.000 Yeah, man.

00:46:29.000 It's crazy out there.

00:46:30.000 Good old sexism.

00:46:31.000 Thankfully, it's a thing of the past.

00:46:33.000 In the past, though, they were... Oh, no.

00:46:34.000 It's 46 minutes.

00:46:35.000 We can go.

00:46:39.000 Are you okay in there?

00:46:41.000 Hello!

00:46:42.000 This is a good one.

00:46:43.000 We'll save it for another day.

00:46:44.000 Well, it'll be a year, won't it, now, because it's this week in history.

00:46:47.000 Listen, we ain't got time for no more.

00:46:48.000 Thank you so much for joining us in Locals.

00:46:50.000 Have you had good fun?

00:46:52.000 Hadn't it been amazing?

00:46:54.000 Listen, tomorrow we're doing our Censorship Industrial Complex special, and before you go, stay with us.

00:46:59.000 This is an amazing week we've got coming up.

00:47:01.000 Jack Dorsey from Twitter's coming on the show.

00:47:04.000 We're going to ask him about the Twitter files and why he goes places where he don't have Wi-Fi.

00:47:07.000 He's overcorrected, isn't he?

00:47:08.000 Yes.

00:47:09.000 He's gone from being a big tech titan to, I don't know Wi-Fi.

00:47:12.000 I'm not even going to use pens, man.

00:47:13.000 These are the devil's instruments.

00:47:14.000 I'm on 3G these days.

00:47:16.000 I'm on 3G.

00:47:16.000 I only use 3G.

00:47:18.000 I write my shopping list with bogeys. 1.00

00:47:21.000 Jack, you've overcorrected!

00:47:22.000 You've overcorrected, Jack!

00:47:24.000 Then we've got, who's the other one that we can confront?

00:47:26.000 Tulsi?

00:47:27.000 Tulsi's coming on, RFK's coming on.

00:47:29.000 Me and RFK, we're doing pull-ups together.

00:47:31.000 That's a lovely poster for the Censorship Industrial Complex.

00:47:34.000 Bad Graphics Jack has made it.

00:47:35.000 Go on, just check that.

00:47:36.000 Well, see if you can guess.

00:47:38.000 God, you can replay if you want.

00:47:40.000 I don't know.

00:47:41.000 Amazing.

00:47:46.000 Amazing.

00:47:46.000 That's Bad Graphics, Jack, telling you that on Friday we have got an exclusive Matt Taibbi and Schellenberger explaining how we will defeat the censorship in Dutch Recommendation.

00:47:55.000 Is that me the night?

00:47:56.000 I look pretty cool there.

00:47:57.000 Right.

00:47:57.000 Look at Taibbi beaming like a schoolgirl.

00:48:00.000 Look at Schellenberger like a deputy headmaster.

00:48:02.000 Look at me, Jim Morrison.

00:48:04.000 What a badass.

00:48:06.000 See if you can guess in the chat.

00:48:09.000 Press the red button on Locals Now and guess who you think See if you can guess who's coming on.

00:48:13.000 We've got such a big guest coming on.

00:48:14.000 Oh, have we got a clip?

00:48:15.000 Guess who you think's coming on.

00:48:16.000 It's a guest that's a seismic this.

00:48:17.000 It's such an exclusive that if we actually don't ruin it, like you know often we ruin it because I nearly have Elon Musk on then I send him a mad text and delays it for a month and he goes on.

00:48:25.000 Don't do any.

00:48:25.000 No communication with them this week, please.

00:48:28.000 It's not Hillary Clinton.

00:48:30.000 A lot of people are guessing it correct, but I cannot confirm.

00:48:33.000 Is it bad graphics, Jack?

00:48:36.000 It will not be bad graphics, Jack.

00:48:38.000 No, we cannot confirm because it's too cool.

00:48:41.000 It's not Trump, though.

00:48:43.000 It's not Trump.

00:48:44.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:48:45.000 It's so exciting!

00:48:45.000 I want to tell you, because you know me, I believe in free speech.

00:48:48.000 I believe in your right to have the information for yourself and assess it for yourself.

00:48:52.000 Tim Ballard, I don't know who they are.

00:48:54.000 It's not going to be that.

00:48:55.000 Is it Queen Elizabeth's ghost?

00:48:56.000 Grow up! 0.51

00:48:57.000 It's not Her Majesty's... You think that we would conduct some ceremony to rise up Elizabeth Vagina's ghost to pull it up out of the grave using cosmic mojo and voodoo? 1.00

00:49:12.000 Rise up Queen Elizabeth's ghost to bring her... I would do it if I could.

00:49:15.000 No, I know you would.

00:49:15.000 I would.

00:49:16.000 I'd have her on.

00:49:16.000 I'd sit her down.

00:49:17.000 I'd go, well, how do you feel about it now then?

00:49:19.000 You'd have to build it into the daily schedule around here.

00:49:21.000 Was it worth it, Liz?

00:49:23.000 Was it worth it?

00:49:23.000 All that pretending, all that dressing up, now you know there's an afterlife and material gain in this life is meaningless.

00:49:29.000 It was beautiful the way you surrendered yourself to a living symbol, but in the end it did set up a lot of hierarchical systems that needed deep investigation.

00:49:37.000 What's it like?

00:49:38.000 Did you meet God?

00:49:39.000 Did everyone have a cool people up there?

00:49:40.000 Hendrix?

00:49:41.000 He's gonna be great.

00:49:42.000 It's not that anyway, it's not that.

00:49:43.000 Some of you are getting it right though, some of you are getting it right.

00:49:45.000 Hey, listen, if you remember that Locals community, you get so much... I want my privacy!

00:49:51.000 That's a funny episode.

00:49:53.000 It's a worldwide privacy tour!

00:49:55.000 Come on, come on! 0.98

00:49:56.000 And listen, we've got to go.

00:49:58.000 We've got to go.

00:49:58.000 We're not leaving altogether, though.

00:50:01.000 If you join us on Locals, there's meditations, bespoke meditations for you.

00:50:05.000 We now, though, have got At last, a proper take on the Titan submersive.

00:50:11.000 You've listened to the claptrap.

00:50:13.000 You've heard the rest.

00:50:14.000 Get ready for the best, because have you wondered what Jungian archetypes are being evoked?

00:50:20.000 Have you wondered whether or not this is a story of inequality in itself?

00:50:24.000 Have you wondered if the Titanic is being called upon, risen up as a great living metaphor, because that was the end of a particular industrial age?

00:50:33.000 And are we now on the precipice of a new order?

00:50:36.000 All of the hubris around the Titanic precipitated World Wars 1 and 2.

00:50:41.000 What do we stand on the edge of now?

00:50:44.000 Here's the news.

00:50:45.000 No, here's the effing news.

00:50:47.000 Join us tomorrow for the Censorship Industrial Complex special.

00:50:50.000 Until then, stay free.

00:51:01.000 Is this a foreboding and ominous warning about what happens when that which is at depth is brought back to the surface, even in our imagination?

00:51:10.000 Or is it just a distraction from all the corruption?

00:51:16.000 I'm fascinated by the Titan substory for these reasons.

00:51:19.000 If indeed there is a collective consciousness that we all participate in, what does it mean when there is a renewed interest in the Titanic?

00:51:26.000 The Titanic of course represented the zenith of industrial achievement at the time that it was built.

00:51:32.000 The largest moving object ever made by the hand of man in all history.

00:51:37.000 It's been a news story at the time it was launched.

00:51:39.000 It was a news story when it sunk.

00:51:41.000 It was a news story when the Titanic movie became one of the biggest cultural artifacts of the time.

00:51:45.000 And now the Titanic is back in the collective imagination because of new technology that allows us to make 3D models and technology that evidently does not allow us to go thousands and thousands of fathoms deep to investigate.

00:51:57.000 Why, once again, is it billionaires and economic achievement that is defining our culture and defining our age?

00:52:03.000 What does it mean when at this time of universal chaos, UFOs, billionaires fighting one another, new peculiar mysterious wars.

00:52:13.000 What does it mean when we go down to the depths and try to bring up the past?

00:52:17.000 What does it tell us that billionaires are able to go on expeditions that are, let's face it, indulgent, and I mean that with all due respect to those that have lost their lives, when there is so much poverty elsewhere?

00:52:27.000 Is there a kind of unconscious meaning that can be gleaned from this extraordinary story?

00:52:34.000 New details coming in about the investigation into the Titan sub-disaster.

00:52:38.000 The Canadian ship that launched the doomed vessel returning to port in Newfoundland with flags at half-mast.

00:52:44.000 Oceangate's CEO stalked in rush among the five people killed in the catastrophic implosion.

00:52:50.000 Human beings have always had an aspect of our shared culture that's about intrepid investigation.

00:52:56.000 Down into the very depths of the sea, where potentially extraterrestrials lurk, we now learn.

00:53:01.000 Out into the outer reaches of space, the highest mountain peaks.

00:53:04.000 It used to be how we defined our culture, through excellence, expertise and shared intrepid adventure.

00:53:11.000 Now, of course, this is the preserve of a particular economic class.

00:53:15.000 The idea that Together we're going to explore space is ridiculous because our whole culture is undergirded by economic models that require hierarchies and privilege and seem to me to be marching relentlessly towards a state where there is centralized power and the rest of us become somewhere between an automaton and a blob constantly engaged by our tech expressing ourselves through consuming no meaningful democratic power or communal power at all.

00:53:42.000 The reason this story interests me is because of the narrative of the Titanic At its time, it represented power.

00:53:48.000 It now represents intrigue.

00:53:50.000 And those that have gone down out of hubris and curiosity to investigate it, a luxury and a privilege, they have curiously been claimed by it, added to those that died at the time.

00:54:01.000 What is it that the Titanic represents in the ongoing myth of our culture?

00:54:06.000 What is this great sepulture that lays at the deep, this tomb, this ongoing tomb, that seems to be denying even contemporary experts from investigating it further?

00:54:17.000 I'm not saying that this is a rationally accurate analysis, I'm saying that this is what can be mythically drawn from it.

00:54:23.000 Loads of you watching this now think, I don't care what happens to a bunch of billionaires that can just afford to pay 250 grand to go and explore the deep.

00:54:30.000 Loads of you I know, let me know in the chat in the comments, will be saying this is just a distraction from important stuff that's going on with the Biden administration, the charge to hunt a Biden.

00:54:38.000 And potentially those things are true as well.

00:54:40.000 But surely you've noticed that our global culture seems to be extraordinary.

00:54:44.000 Isn't this story part of an odd new collection, a new menagerie of mad stories about exploration, weird cage fights, peculiar wars, UFOs?

00:54:56.000 Have you looked at the raft of stories that are being released lately?

00:54:59.000 Is it possible that something seismic just below the surface is taking place?

00:55:04.000 All five passengers on board instantly killed in a catastrophic implosion.

00:55:09.000 Authorities also hoping to recover audio recordings.

00:55:12.000 They say investigations typically take anywhere from 18 months to two years.

00:55:16.000 I mean, it's odd because now there's got to be another set of investigations into an extraordinary event that wasn't really meant to yield anything other than pleasure.

00:55:25.000 It's a pleasure expedition, isn't it?

00:55:27.000 It's just a sort of sub-aquatic Brothel of the mind that's being visited.

00:55:32.000 And now, more expenditure, more time.

00:55:35.000 In a way, this is the perfect story that shows you how, even though we're living in an increasingly globalist culture, it's defined by very peculiarly diverse and varied interests.

00:55:45.000 Where you might have one part of the earth defined by famine and poverty, where you might find that your democracy is falling apart, that you don't have any meaningful political alternatives because both of the dominant parties are basically the same, while you're not invited to vote on whether you're going to be locked down in a pandemic or whether a new war should be embarked on or whether gain-of-function research should happen or whether or not you think it's wise to engage China in a war, the eyes of the world are on this.

00:56:10.000 The resources of the world are on this.

00:56:12.000 Isn't it an interesting diagnostic tool that tells us that there is something wrong under the depths?

00:56:18.000 In dream analysis, the ocean represents the unconscious.

00:56:21.000 Something like the Titanic, a vessel that we're all aware of, represents some kind of grail, some kind of quest, something that we're all looking for.

00:56:30.000 And really, what's a more important pursuit?

00:56:33.000 Going down to explore the Titanic out of mere curiosity?

00:56:36.000 Or coming up with new and radical solutions for how we might live together as a culture when it appears that there are social, ecological, political, economic, militaristic disasters on the horizon in almost every direction in an unprecedented way?

00:56:49.000 I know you would have progressives say, Why 80 years ago it was the second world war and hundreds of years ago people used to live outside sucking on a pig's teat to survive.

00:56:58.000 I recognize there are aspects of civilized culture that are extremely beneficial but clearly we're still looking for something and we're not going to find it at the bottom of the sea.

00:57:09.000 Now the world of exploration takes a breath, as difficult decisions remain about a potential recovery mission to the bottom of the Atlantic.

00:57:16.000 A place known for tragedy, now fresh for five more families.

00:57:20.000 And I suppose that's the brutal truth.

00:57:22.000 There are five families now grieving needlessly because of this expedition.

00:57:27.000 Let's have a look at some analysis from elsewhere.

00:57:29.000 First of all, certain painful but telling historical ironies come to mind.

00:57:33.000 There are similarities now played out on a miniature scale between the sinking of the original RMS Titanic and its present-day shadow, the Titan.

00:57:40.000 There were prominent wealthy victims of the 1912 disaster, too, including John Jacob Astor IV, business magnate and the richest individual aboard the doomed ship, and Pennsylvania Railroad executive John Thayer.

00:57:53.000 This time, like the time when the Titanic was launched and sank, is a time that's, in a way, defined by a sense that we're at the periphery of new exploration.

00:58:02.000 At that point, industry had brought about great, miraculous ventures like the Titanic herself.

00:58:07.000 Now we stand on the brink of AI.

00:58:10.000 And similarly, perhaps, we have new warnings because the Titanic went down just before the First World War, quickly followed by the Second World War.

00:58:17.000 Now we stand on the precipice of all this potentially new and miraculous technology But many of us, and let me know if you agree with this in the comments, sense that there is a foreboding, an eeriness to our time, a weirdness, a strangeness that suggests that we need to awaken from a kind of peculiar illusion.

00:58:35.000 And imagine what was heralded by the sinking of the Titanic.

00:58:38.000 Imagine if we could have stepped back from that time and said, all of this industry, all of this exploration, all of this ambition is going to lead to massive conflagration and the loss of millions of lives in those two world wars across Europe, across the entire world, of course.

00:58:51.000 Are we similarly now at an axis point where we need to step back and take a review of the direction we're heading in?

00:58:58.000 I know I believe we are.

00:58:59.000 The 1912 sink in and enormous death toll, as various investigations have shown, were entirely avoidable. 0.99

00:59:04.000 They were the combined product of corporate profit hunger, ill-conceived plans, countless errors and simple stupidity. 0.86

00:59:10.000 Likewise, there seems reason to believe that Oceangate's activities merit scrutiny. 0.89

00:59:14.000 In 2018, the company's director of marine operations, David Lockridge, presented what's described in the media as a scathing quality control report to senior management, including CEO Stockton Rush, and was fired for his efforts.

00:59:27.000 Lockridge prefaced his report by insisting that it was time to properly address items that may pose a safety risk to personnel and that numerous issues pose serious safety concerns.

00:59:36.000 And there are the appalling matters involving the rescue efforts.

00:59:39.000 Famously, the Titanic carried only 20 lifeboats, able in theory to accommodate 1,778 people, a little over half the 2,200 people on board, and many of those put to sea only half filled.

00:59:50.000 You know all those guys dancing downstairs? 1.00

00:59:55.000 Well, fuck them! 0.99

00:59:56.000 Even if the submersible Titan had been located, efforts to save lives would have been hindered by the fact that virtually no rescuing capabilities presently exist, at least in government hands. 0.99

01:00:06.000 A Forbes comment points out astonishingly that as the global market for extreme tourist adventures has emerged, submarine rescue has now become a largely privatized endeavor and most governments have little to offer the missing mariners if they are trapped underwater.

01:00:19.000 The decline in America's rescue capabilities has been dramatic.

01:00:23.000 In 1960, the US Navy boasted nine dedicated submarine rescue ships and two fleet tugs fitted out for undersea rescue work.

01:00:30.000 Today, the service lacks a single dedicated undersea rescue vessel.

01:00:33.000 Once, the pursuit of space travel and moon missions captivated the attention of the globe.

01:00:38.000 Now, it is the private enterprise of billionaires like Bezos that take us to the moon.

01:00:43.000 Figures like Elon Musk and Zuckerberg have now in the public imagination replaced figures that seemed before to represent a nation.

01:00:50.000 Perhaps one thing this alludes to is we may still have national pride and a connection to our flags and our nations, but increasingly there is nothing behind it.

01:00:59.000 When it comes to it, Private enterprise has come in and taken away the power that would once have been the source of a nation's pride.

01:01:06.000 Think even and significantly of military spending in the country of the United States of America.

01:01:10.000 We know, of course, that 50% of it goes straight to private companies like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc.

01:01:15.000 And that the Pentagon, once the home of the American military, can't even pass an audit.

01:01:21.000 That there's extraordinary anomalies in their accountancy and expenditure.

01:01:24.000 Sometimes I wonder if this new entrepreneurial, intrepid spirit of endeavor is an indication that the age of the nation is over.

01:01:33.000 Let me know if you agree in the comments.

01:01:35.000 Once again, America's vast military, security, and anti-terror apparatus only proves capable of ending lives, not saving them.

01:01:42.000 That's an interesting diagnosis, and it shows us where we stand.

01:01:45.000 There is the capacity to expand through war, but there is not the capacity to protect.

01:01:49.000 And what is it known as?

01:01:50.000 The defense industry.

01:01:52.000 The present tragedy does not cast extreme tourism in a positive light.

01:01:52.000 Where's the defending?

01:01:56.000 Designing to see the five individuals alive and well does not signify approving of their foolhardy adventures.

01:02:01.000 All too often, individuals with too much money, too much time on their hands, two little brains in their heads, and ugly, overwhelming hubris put their own and other people's lives at risk.

01:02:09.000 New York City is still full of buildings that bear the names of Rockefeller and Carnegie.

01:02:13.000 Those were the great emblems of that age.

01:02:16.000 The 1980s, once again we saw people exploring the skies, hot air balloon races, fast cars, land speed records.

01:02:23.000 Always the pursuit of excellence is used to justify extreme wealth and disproportionate power.

01:02:29.000 Essentially inequality.

01:02:30.000 But the fact that these ventures are starting to fail now suggests to me we're at a point where we need to examine our paradigm more heartily, more thoroughly.

01:02:39.000 This is a time where we need to be diving down to the depths of our social models and seeing what fallen sunk wreckages lie there that we are still allowing to define our time instead of moving boldly forward to new models.

01:02:51.000 This summer Virgin Galactic will finally start flying paying customers to the edge of space in the company's rocket-powered plane, Spaceship Two.

01:02:59.000 The first flight, a mission named Galactic 01, will launch as soon as June 27.

01:03:03.000 Customers pay between 250 grand and 450 grand apiece.

01:03:07.000 I do think that when on one part of the planet you have ludicrous, hubristic, explorative trips like that, and elsewhere there's just chaos and suffering and Penury and poverty is telling us something.

01:03:20.000 Don't you agree that it's somehow ridiculous that, on one level, we are all here on this planet, that we should be, through consensus and democracy, creating systems, ideals and goals that are a reflection of all of us, not just Marx, privilege and extreme elitism.

01:03:36.000 That seems to be an indicator that something is very wrong.

01:03:39.000 The question of class intrudes in both tragedies like a knife blade.

01:03:42.000 Of the approximately 709 Titanic passengers in third or steerage class, an estimated 537 died.

01:03:48.000 Being poor is fantastic!

01:03:50.000 Dance with me, Jack.

01:03:52.000 Some 80% of male third-class passengers perished, while only 3% of first-class women suffered that fate.

01:03:59.000 As has been well documented, steerage passengers on board the Titanic were confined to their area in the lower decks by grilled gates, some of which were never unlocked as the ship filled with water.

01:04:07.000 If a culture collectively chooses a story as a metaphor, it means it has resonance in it.

01:04:12.000 Why is everyone fascinated by the Titanic?

01:04:14.000 Why?

01:04:15.000 What is it telling us?

01:04:16.000 There's information in there.

01:04:18.000 Not just rational, materialistic data.

01:04:19.000 How many people died?

01:04:20.000 Did they drop a necklace down there?

01:04:22.000 Let's find that thing that Leonardo DiCaprio dropped.

01:04:24.000 Not just that, there's power in it somehow, there's something mesmeric and intriguing, and that kind of data helps you understand that.

01:04:30.000 Because in the microcosm of the vessel itself, it shows you you live in an unequal society, and in the event that even a ship sinks, you are not bonded by the fact that you're all on the same ship, because some lives are more valuable than others.

01:04:44.000 So part of the energy behind this Titan submersive story is our awareness That these people were representatives of a particular economic class and their pursuit to go fathoms deep in order to sort of go on a deep aquatic safari has led to death.

01:05:01.000 Of course that's really bad and really sad and all lives are valuable and I'm not the kind of person who gets off on death.

01:05:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:05:06.000 That's a weird trip.

01:05:07.000 But what I will point out is that the story has a thread running through it that's trying to tell us something.

01:05:12.000 Well, trying's not the right word.

01:05:14.000 Can tell us something.

01:05:16.000 111 years later, class divisions have reached an even higher and more malignant stage.

01:05:21.000 It has now become a tailing fact of two distinct vessels, the Titan on the one hand, and the fishing boat that sank on June 13th in the Mediterranean, killing hundreds of desperate refugees on the other.

01:05:31.000 Now, I know a lot of you will say, oh, refugees coming over here and all of that, and you're quite reluctant to take on board those kind of narratives.

01:05:38.000 But my personal feeling is people that are willing to get on boats and risk their lives are frightened and desperate.

01:05:44.000 And it's worth looking at the relative values of those lives.

01:05:48.000 Which lives matter?

01:05:49.000 Which lives are more important?

01:05:51.000 How do you determine the value of a life?

01:05:54.000 Why is it that some lives should have millions spent on saving them and supporting them and protecting them?

01:05:59.000 Not just in crisis!

01:06:00.000 All the time systems are held up, subsidies are offered, tax breaks are given.

01:06:05.000 All the time.

01:06:06.000 You notice it in a crisis because suddenly there's drama and allure and intrigue and a little maelstrom of energy that's easy for us to observe because it seems to step out of the norm.

01:06:15.000 But it's always happening.

01:06:16.000 Whereas other lives are, well, you know, they shouldn't be trying to, why don't they get in their own country? 1.00

01:06:21.000 Why should I pay taxes?

01:06:22.000 And I hear all of those arguments and totally I'm sympathetic to those arguments.

01:06:26.000 But just ask yourself why that is allowed to happen.

01:06:29.000 And what are you being shown by this?

01:06:31.000 Let me know in the comments, because I'm here to learn as well.

01:06:33.000 Their mass flight has largely been precipitated by the imperialist wars and other operations carried out by Western powers, the very regimes now presiding over their deaths at sea.

01:06:42.000 If your own government's actions have somehow precipitated a refugee crisis, either through war in order to pursue resources or some other political action in those territories, then when does the point come where we start to recognise, hang on a minute, we've got more in common with the people fleeing those nations than we do that thin slender thread of elite interest that are causing those wars.

01:07:05.000 Isn't it a necessity, you tell me, for us to all come together in sympathy and compassion and recognize that whilst it's not fair that some of our taxes is spent on helping and feeding displaced people, it's even less fair that the majority of our taxes go to elite interests like the military-industrial complex, subsidies offered to big energy firms, subsidies offered to big agri, subsidies offered to big food.

01:07:30.000 It's just a question I'm asking you.

01:07:31.000 Let me know what you think in the comments.

01:07:32.000 Can you see what I'm trying to say?

01:07:33.000 We know that these kind of extreme tourist trips are enjoyed by a particular class of people.

01:07:39.000 Now, is it that they earned that money in a hustle bustle, social Darwinism, concrete jungle of capitalism free market competition?

01:07:48.000 Or are there other rules that are less obvious to observe that we maybe have to go a little deeper and investigate in our own little submarine?

01:07:56.000 Amazon, a trillion-dollar company, has received at least $5 billion in US-based tax breaks and other subsidies.

01:08:01.000 So that's Amazon.

01:08:03.000 You know, Jeff Bezos is not the CEO anymore, but he was for a long time.

01:08:06.000 And you might recall that Bezos built that superyacht that they had to take a bridge down somewhere in Europe in order to get it out. 0.88

01:08:12.000 Bezos took his cock rocket out into space, didn't he? 0.80

01:08:15.000 Do you see now?

01:08:16.000 5 billion in tax breaks, cock rocket expeditions.

01:08:20.000 I know that there is more complexity than that, but those things I've said are all true.

01:08:25.000 Offering tax breaks and incentives to attract businesses, common practice for state and city governments, politicians want thriving local economies and jobs for their communities.

01:08:32.000 In the US, these kind of subsidies amount to at least 30 billion dollars annually.

01:08:36.000 But recent research from Princeton didn't find strong evidence that company-specific tax incentives increase broader economic growth.

01:08:43.000 So that's the myth.

01:08:44.000 These tax breaks will trickle down to everybody.

01:08:47.000 Do they trickle down to everybody?

01:08:49.000 Does everybody end up going on sub-aquatic explorations?

01:08:53.000 Or are these kind of elite tourist pursuits only accessible, like elite tax breaks, to a very small group of people?

01:09:01.000 Are we seeing that some lives are more valuable than others?

01:09:05.000 Are we seeing that there is indeed something at depth that is trying to tell us something?

01:09:10.000 Watch out!

01:09:11.000 Watch out for hubris!

01:09:13.000 Watch out for elitism!

01:09:14.000 Watch out for a system that doesn't acknowledge the fact that while we're all on the same vessel, some people are in steerage and others are in first class.

01:09:23.000 And it makes a big, big difference if the ship should ever go down.

01:09:28.000 But that's just what I think.

01:09:29.000 Until next time, stay free.

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