Stay Free - Russel Brand - March 27, 2026


Is Entertainment Being Used to Shape Opinion? — SF696

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Russell Brand's thoughts on the UK government's anti-migrant policies, the new TV show The Capture, and the new Home Office spy, Joe Whitlock. Plus, a look at how the British government uses fake news to spread fear and spread lies.

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00:00:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand and Russell Russell Brand trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
00:00:17.000 Hello there you Awakening Wonders.
00:00:18.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:21.000 We're going to be talking about how to, I don't know, free yourself.
00:00:25.000 Wake up!
00:00:26.000 Wake up!
00:00:27.000 How many more times?
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00:00:33.000 Get over to Rumble.
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00:00:36.000 A little bit later we'll be doing Crack On.
00:00:37.000 That's our recovery program where we talk about how to use 12-step recovery to detach yourself from whatever it is you're addicted to right now.
00:00:44.000 It could be drugs.
00:00:45.000 Is it drugs?
00:00:46.000 Could be alcohol.
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00:00:50.000 Whatever it is, don't be ashamed.
00:00:51.000 You're going to be okay.
00:00:52.000 Before that, though, let's get into the propaganda war that governs the United Kingdom.
00:00:57.000 The UK, as you know, is governed by dear old Kier Starmer.
00:01:00.000 He's trying his best.
00:01:01.000 He's got a little gargly larynx.
00:01:04.000 He's got a sinus voice.
00:01:06.000 He's a sweet, sweet man.
00:01:07.000 He's got grooves in his hair.
00:01:08.000 He's a lovely fellow.
00:01:09.000 He's trying his best.
00:01:11.000 The UK are creating state-based propaganda to keep you on the edge of your seat and very near the periphery of your mind.
00:01:18.000 They've created this new TV show called The Capture that's all sort of hand-wringing and pious and stuff.
00:01:25.000 Let's have a little look at it because it's one of those shows where they attempt to equate online activism and even punditry with terror.
00:01:36.000 Let's have a look at it.
00:01:37.000 It's in particular talking about the idea of anti-migration.
00:01:40.000 You know in the UK it's not easy to talk about immigration.
00:01:43.000 You know my position, economic migrants are not in the and of themselves a powerful group.
00:01:49.000 I'm very very interested to see how the Islamification, if that's the term you want to use, is being used to destabilize native populations and create a generalized deterioration. 1.00
00:02:01.000 I was interested to see Tucker talking about it on his show.
00:02:05.000 He said any city you go to in the world that's not under Sharia law seems to be in decline.
00:02:12.000 Do you agree with that?
00:02:13.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
00:02:14.000 The UK, the project continues apace.
00:02:18.000 Me, as you know, I'm not looking to instigate anti-Muslim or anti-Jewish feeling.
00:02:27.000 I reckon what's really required is democracy and let domestic populations vote for migration policies that please them and cultural and civic rules that are reflective of their own values.
00:02:38.000 Then, you know, ideologies are less important when you have actual democracy.
00:02:42.000 Then you can have true variety instead of fake diversity.
00:02:45.000 Let's have a look at this TV show though, which is normalizing a set of opinions that will likely ultimately be used to restrict your freedom.
00:02:52.000 The show's called The Capture and here's a, well, it starts off with a scene.
00:02:58.000 Well, I don't know.
00:02:59.000 Does this give us enough understanding of the narrative?
00:03:01.000 Let's have a look. 1.00
00:03:11.000 Shall I shoot that child? 1.00
00:03:13.000 I mean, at least Gov. How often is there any children on those bloody boats is what I'd say. 1.00
00:03:17.000 They're normally working-age fellas, aren't they? 0.81
00:03:25.000 I mean, I mean, he should be aiming at one of the...
00:03:27.000 Well, I mean, don't shoot anybody, ideally. 0.97
00:03:29.000 But if you are going to do a sniper attack on a migrant boat, shoot one of the many working-age men. 1.00
00:03:34.000 Look, they've come from a war zone anyway. 0.99
00:03:36.000 They should make no difference.
00:03:39.000 Should make no difference to them.
00:03:40.000 Listen, I'm being deliberately glib because if the BBC can create dramatic scenarios using actors and props, why can't we create dramatic scenarios using words?
00:03:52.000 Well, because when we do it, it's misinformation.
00:03:54.000 Go ahead.
00:03:55.000 Mum, it looks like Whitlock got hold of those Home Office documents via Freedom of Information requests.
00:04:08.000 Whitlock, that's the baddie. 0.94
00:04:09.000 Whitlock, like in it, a fictional sort of online pundit, who's very much like the sort of person Joe would probably follow for a chemtrail video, has gone rogue and has started sniping at life boats full of kiddie winks refuging their way to the UK.
00:04:28.000 I'm a Christian and a human being, and I believe that it's our duty to look after one another, take care of one another, particularly widows and the fatherless.
00:04:36.000 Them people, they need loving and looking after.
00:04:38.000 I suppose the real question is: are migrants in the UK being used to create social unrest?
00:04:47.000 Yes, Jake.
00:04:48.000 Is this a British show?
00:04:50.000 Of course it is.
00:04:51.000 Where did he get the gun?
00:04:53.000 Where's he gotten that gun from?
00:04:54.000 Especially with like a like he's got a silencer on it and a sight, a scope.
00:04:59.000 Yeah, I'd be more interested in that than the Freedom of Information Act documents.
00:05:03.000 He's got these documents using the Freedom of Information Act. 0.98
00:05:06.000 Where the fuck's he got that rifle? 0.97
00:05:08.000 Where's he got that IR from? 0.99
00:05:10.000 Yeah, good point, Jake.
00:05:12.000 That's why you need intelligent armed Americans to ask smart questions about weapons.
00:05:18.000 He made a total of nine requests during his time in prison.
00:05:21.000 Nine Freedom of Information requests.
00:05:24.000 It sounds like Whitlock had it in for the Home Office.
00:05:26.000 He accused the government.
00:05:27.000 This Whitlock's gonna ruin the Home Office at this rate. 0.85
00:05:30.000 The Home Office, that's our equivalent of the State Department.
00:05:33.000 We're being asked to the BBC's like inviting you to side with the government and like these deep state spooks against Whitlock.
00:05:42.000 Look at him, old Whitlock, shooting a child on a lifeboat, asking for Freedom of Information Act documents in prison.
00:05:49.000 Anyone who asks for Freedom of Information Acts, they're the real terrorists.
00:05:52.000 Not like these babies, these lovable Sesame Street casts on a lifeboat.
00:05:57.000 Might as well have Elmo on that lifeboat.
00:06:00.000 It's an absolutely outrageous way to frame this subject.
00:06:02.000 He accused the government of covering up the true stats on undocumented migrants.
00:06:06.000 Something of an obsession for the lad.
00:06:08.000 Whitlock's 4chan account, ma'am, deactivated last month. 0.99
00:06:12.000 Because Whitlock's on 4chan, the bastard. 0.98
00:06:16.000 Look at him, Whitlock. 1.00
00:06:17.000 He doesn't even use his fingers to operate the keyboard. 1.00
00:06:20.000 Whitlock's using the tip of his cock. 1.00
00:06:22.000 He's a baddie. 1.00
00:06:23.000 That's why no one should be allowed on 4chan.
00:06:25.000 No one should be allowed the internet.
00:06:27.000 No one should be allowed Freedom of Information Act requests.
00:06:30.000 All of us should just settle down and drink estrogen till we're nothing but a puddle of menstruation. 0.91
00:06:37.000 Because sending you the posts that got him kicked off the platform.
00:06:42.000 Our history books say the last land invasion of England was 1066.
00:06:47.000 In actual fact, the last land invasion of England was yesterday morning at 9:45 when a boat carrying 40 undocumented male migrants landed in Dungeness, Kent.
00:06:58.000 That is 44-0.
00:07:00.000 Fighting age illegal male migrants. 0.97
00:07:03.000 Land invasion is an act of war. 0.88
00:07:05.000 Oh, them screens.
00:07:07.000 They're being used to study Whitlock.
00:07:09.000 Like, they've got that massive bank.
00:07:11.000 Use that to protect the borders.
00:07:13.000 Then you wouldn't need Whitlock.
00:07:15.000 Whitlock.
00:07:16.000 Like, he's really been made out to be a baddie. 0.96
00:07:18.000 He's just some sort of lovely, hopeless hobo. 1.00
00:07:21.000 He's done a little bit of jail time. 0.70
00:07:23.000 But his real ingenuity is that he's managed to scavenger hunt himself and assault rifle in an island where it's very difficult to get hold of a penny whistle.
00:07:31.000 This is an act of war.
00:07:33.000 In war, civilians are allowed to fight back.
00:07:37.000 We're supposed to fight back.
00:07:39.000 And the next time a boatload of fighting age males lands on our shores, we'll be ready.
00:07:46.000 Turn the car around.
00:07:48.000 Turn the car around.
00:07:49.000 We've got to stop Whitlock with our lady cubs. 1.00
00:07:52.000 You've got a lady car bar of every colour and a nice tubby Chinese one too.
00:07:58.000 These lady cops have gotta stop Whitlock before he shoots me and you. 1.00
00:08:04.000 Whitlock, you son of a bitch. 1.00
00:08:06.000 Making Freedom of Information Act requests. 1.00
00:08:09.000 Whitlock, you son of a bitch. 1.00
00:08:12.000 We're gonna vaccinate you in your Whitcock Whitlock. 1.00
00:08:16.000 Oh, Whitcock.
00:08:17.000 How many more people might hypothetically die?
00:08:21.000 That's all paid for by the license fee, that mad propaganda.
00:08:26.000 How can we make it look like people that are concerned about migration are bad?
00:08:30.000 With the lady cops. 1.00
00:08:32.000 With the cast of lady cops, one of every colour.
00:08:36.000 Like, like, what was that?
00:08:38.000 Cats one?
00:08:39.000 Fundercats.
00:08:40.000 Like the Thundercats ladies. 1.00
00:08:43.000 One, what's like a leopard?
00:08:45.000 One, what's like a lion?
00:08:47.000 One, what's like a cheetah?
00:08:49.000 All against Whitlock, a man with a beard walking by a bush.
00:08:54.000 Quoting 106, quoting the Bayou tapestry.
00:08:58.000 1066 was the last land invasion.
00:09:01.000 Look, the fact is, is people are concerned about migration.
00:09:04.000 If you've got a democracy, if you've got to listen to them, if you haven't got a democracy, what you do is create propaganda.
00:09:11.000 So one set of opinions are regarded as evil and racist, and the other side's all sort of lovely and friendly and fluffy.
00:09:20.000 That tubby Asian lass dressed in green velvet operating a computer. 1.00
00:09:25.000 I don't want to be on their side.
00:09:26.000 I don't want to be on their side.
00:09:28.000 I don't mind a tubby Asian lass operating a computer. 1.00
00:09:31.000 But don't tell us that if we're not part of the estrogen crew, we're nothing but crazy racists. 1.00
00:09:38.000 You swankers. 0.99
00:09:40.000 What's this now? 0.93
00:09:42.000 UK considers, oh my god, freedom of information requests can still be useful.
00:09:47.000 We shouldn't have freedom of information.
00:09:48.000 Look at that.
00:09:49.000 Sure enough.
00:09:50.000 A new campaign to stop people asking for information.
00:09:55.000 You know who the real villains are?
00:09:57.000 People that want information.
00:09:59.000 Why can't we just let the government get on with governing us? 0.97
00:10:03.000 Yeah, let's have a new drama where there's a tubby Chinese lady, a nice tough black lesbian lady, and one pretty white one. 1.00
00:10:12.000 Fuck's sake, people are going to watch this shit. 1.00
00:10:14.000 Put a pretty white woman at the front. 1.00
00:10:17.000 Like, they're still trying to have their cake and eat it, aren't they?
00:10:20.000 Like, I bet at some point she walks about like in a sort of half-vest thing. 1.00
00:10:24.000 They've got no values, these people.
00:10:26.000 They lecture you from like, like, as if they've got, like, a moral center.
00:10:30.000 Their moral center will change like that.
00:10:32.000 Change like that.
00:10:33.000 Snap a snap of the fingers.
00:10:35.000 Next time there's some new craze.
00:10:36.000 What is it we care about this week?
00:10:38.000 Right, let's do a drama about that now. 1.00
00:10:40.000 Use bastards, man. 1.00
00:10:42.000 And also, by the way, they don't make shows unless there's money in them. 1.00
00:10:44.000 They're just like all they want is money.
00:10:46.000 Everyone's sort of sat around like, right, how can we help now?
00:10:49.000 There's no money in it. 1.00
00:10:50.000 Oh, fuck off. 1.00
00:10:50.000 Should we do something else then? 1.00
00:10:51.000 Right, well, fuck off. 1.00
00:10:52.000 Stop pretending to care and fuck off the lot of you. 1.00
00:10:56.000 We're not paying for you with our taxes no more. 1.00
00:10:58.000 Do you know, believe this?
00:11:00.000 It's Whitlock.
00:11:01.000 Do you know?
00:11:02.000 Whitlock?
00:11:03.000 Just some geezer who's like, we had a hard life. 1.00
00:11:06.000 It's time for jail time.
00:11:08.000 He scavenged himself on AR. 1.00
00:11:10.000 Whitlock, you bastard. 1.00
00:11:12.000 How dare you? 1.00
00:11:12.000 How dare you ask for information? 1.00
00:11:14.000 How are they going to tell us that it's bad for us to have information?
00:11:18.000 Let's see how they ingeniously frame this.
00:11:21.000 Right, so Freedom of Information Act requests are, as the name suggests, the ability of ordinary people to write to government departments and ask for money.
00:11:30.000 But look what it says here.
00:11:31.000 It's a useful tool for journalists and researchers.
00:11:34.000 Yeah, journalists and researchers. 1.00
00:11:36.000 Not Whitlock, you stinking pervert. 1.00
00:11:38.000 Trim your pubes. 1.00
00:11:40.000 Whitlock hanging around by a bramble bush with a rifle trying to shoot the one migrant baby in the last 10 years. 0.89
00:11:47.000 Researchers digging into matters of public interest that private companies or state entities would prefer to keep under wraps.
00:11:54.000 It's therefore alarming that government officials in the UK are raising concerns that intelligence agencies from hostile states, notably China, could be using them to gain access to sensitive information.
00:12:04.000 You're not using it.
00:12:05.000 You're getting no sensitive information anyway.
00:12:07.000 It's really hard.
00:12:08.000 I've tried to use it to see how the 77th Brigade spying on our Russ.
00:12:11.000 What they do is they turn it into a massive drag.
00:12:14.000 They turn it into a massive, massive drag.
00:12:16.000 Give us that information that's ours.
00:12:18.000 Firstly, by the way, the information's already yours because you pay for the government.
00:12:22.000 It's your money.
00:12:23.000 Yeah, but China.
00:12:25.000 It's the Chinese.
00:12:26.000 And do you know who's behind China? 0.94
00:12:27.000 It's Wicklock.
00:12:29.000 Witlock's there running China.
00:12:32.000 He's running state communism.
00:12:35.000 To gain sensitive information, the officials told the Financial Times they've picked out a pan of FIA requests related to defense and security matters.
00:12:42.000 Oh, okay.
00:12:44.000 Why don't we ask them for the secret information?
00:12:48.000 And then we can bring down Britain.
00:12:50.000 Britain's irrelevant to China.
00:12:52.000 Which pointed to involvement of Beijing.
00:12:54.000 FIO legislation requires the person requesting information to provide their real name, physical address, proof of identity, not mandatory, making it possible for the request to disguise who they are.
00:13:04.000 Although only unclassified material can be right, right?
00:13:06.000 So it's unclassified.
00:13:07.000 So that's the end of that. 1.00
00:13:09.000 But officials are worried that snippets could be pieced together by the crafty Chinese, those bastards. 1.00
00:13:16.000 Oh, let's put together these snippets and then we can take over Britain. 0.99
00:13:20.000 Build a bigger picture that amounts to sensitive information.
00:13:23.000 FOIA campaigners are rightly skeptical.
00:13:25.000 They point out civil servants already blocked requests.
00:13:28.000 What a lot of bollocks. 0.99
00:13:29.000 What a lot of stinking bollocks. 0.99
00:13:32.000 All right, let's see what GB News is saying. 0.98
00:13:34.000 GB News discussed tactics used by the BBC and how previous FOIA requests show the UK government as long liaised with mainstream media to embed approved messaging in dramas, soap operas, nudging public opinion.
00:13:45.000 Because you might think it ridiculous that a TV drama is presenting political information in a way to create a certain impression among the public.
00:13:56.000 But you know that in your country, Hollywood has long liaised with the deep state.
00:14:00.000 That's why for ages of all those positive movies about CIA stars, every major movie star at some point plays a CIA agent, don't they?
00:14:08.000 Baldwin and Cruz and everybody, some handsome, swarthy CIA man.
00:14:13.000 And in my country too, it much sort of more low-budget British sort of like, oh, mate, illsya propaganda.
00:14:21.000 Here's a GB News, a British media company, revealing that for a long time, and in particular during the COVID pandemic, propaganda was embedded within dramas, not just news.
00:14:32.000 We all know that news is nothing but propaganda, but they also do it within, you know, dramas. 0.95
00:14:37.000 Like in EastEnders, it's a very popular, dour as fuck British soap opera, which the Americans I don't think would tolerate. 1.00
00:14:45.000 Do you know what EastEnders is, Jake? 0.97
00:14:47.000 I don't.
00:14:48.000 Even the theme tune.
00:14:50.000 You don't even know, you've never even heard that.
00:14:52.000 I've heard of it.
00:14:53.000 But it's like, all right, EastEnders follows the activities in Albert Square, and it's built around the Queen Victoria pub.
00:15:01.000 And it used to be the good families like the Beale family and the Fowlers and dirty Den Watts and Nick Cotton, the baddie.
00:15:09.000 He was a brilliant baddie, Nick Cotton. 0.99
00:15:10.000 All right, more, shut up. 1.00
00:15:12.000 And like, but no cursing or whatever, because it's only at seven or eight o'clock in the evening.
00:15:16.000 So it's sort of like somewhat unrealistic on that basis.
00:15:18.000 But during COVID, EastEnders went to be all these like working class folks from the East End of London. 1.00
00:15:23.000 Suddenly were like, like people weren't taking the vaccine.
00:15:27.000 So they had like a character in East Enders like, I don't know if we should take these vaccines.
00:15:31.000 I'm a bit worried.
00:15:32.000 They ain't had time to experiment properly.
00:15:34.000 Oh yeah, are you a scientist, are you?
00:15:37.000 Well, no, but it stands to reason. 1.00
00:15:38.000 Shut up! 1.00
00:15:39.000 Shut up! 1.00
00:15:40.000 Take your fucking vaccine! 1.00
00:15:41.000 Like they sort of found a way of building it into a plot for EastEnders. 1.00
00:15:45.000 Really messed up and crazy, and we'll show you that in a moment.
00:15:49.000 But here's GB News to edit.
00:15:51.000 East Enders, you don't have an equivalent of that in your country.
00:15:53.000 You wouldn't tolerate it.
00:15:55.000 You wouldn't tolerate something that dour being on a TV set.
00:15:59.000 You would have, I don't know, all your soaps, like Dallas, Dynasty, Santa Barbara, or what you have now, Landman or whatever it is.
00:16:07.000 That's what we have known it.
00:16:08.000 Yellowstone, Landman.
00:16:11.000 This is the first time I've ever heard of this particular series called The Capture.
00:16:15.000 Apparently, it's quite popular, but of course, it's gone woke down the line.
00:16:20.000 The first time I heard about it was actually last night when people started tagging me in this video.
00:16:25.000 And a friend of mine called Lander on X saying that the BBC is showing a character submitting FOI requests to the Home Office, considering that completely extreme, which I find absolutely absurd.
00:16:39.000 That is my daily work using the Freedom of Information Act for journalism on exactly these kinds of topics.
00:16:48.000 So many others do it too.
00:16:49.000 And ironically, I have sent an FOI and an SAR subject access request to the BBC asking about narrative.
00:17:06.000 It's Whitlock.
00:17:07.000 We found out that Epstein Island, it wasn't Bill Gates and Bill Clinton and all powerful deep state oligarchs.
00:17:14.000 It was some guy from Norfolk.
00:17:17.000 Whitlock is who it was.
00:17:18.000 Just some lone operator is running everything.
00:17:22.000 Hey, did you actually know that the Bay of Tapestry was lie?
00:17:25.000 It was actually sold together by migrants.
00:17:28.000 Inspiration.
00:17:30.000 You might remember, Bev, that we did a segment not too long ago, I believe it was last year or the year before, where I submitted FOI and it exposed back in 2021 emails between the BBC,
00:17:45.000 Channel 4, Sky, CEOs, and the government liaising with each other to embed vaccine messaging within soap operas, essentially public health nudges via entertainment.
00:17:59.000 And the same playbook is now being used here.
00:18:03.000 Okay, here are some.
00:18:03.000 Interesting.
00:18:05.000 Here's some information about vaccine propaganda being in EastEnders.
00:18:10.000 Officials at the Department of Health have been in contact with the DCMS to query Department of Culture Media to query whether ITV would be willing to assist with pro-vaccine messaging in their content.
00:18:23.000 As well as iterating public health messages about the safety of vaccines, DH are keen to engage with hard to reach groups.
00:18:30.000 Poor people, poor people and ethnic minorities. 1.00
00:18:34.000 In particular, like it says here, lower social, economic, and beat black. 0.97
00:18:37.000 And I don't know what that stands for anymore. 0.97
00:18:40.000 Minorities, minority ethnicities.
00:18:43.000 In particular, DH has proposed writing to ITV to ask them to consider including vaccine storylines in their soaps.
00:18:49.000 Whilst we do not think it would be appropriate to write to ITV on this matter, given the importance of broadcasters, operational and editorial independence, yeah, because obviously when you know, either when something's funded by the state like the BBC or funded by advertising like ITV,
00:19:04.000 they are incredibly independent editorially.
00:19:07.000 You may wish to explore with them whether they have already have plans.
00:19:10.000 Do you already have plans to develop content?
00:19:12.000 We thought you had plans.
00:19:14.000 Look how it works.
00:19:15.000 Sly sophistry.
00:19:16.000 I'm sure you're already doing something about vaccines, aren't you?
00:19:20.000 An initial readout from ITV's meeting with BEIS indicates they are planning soap storylines related to the environment and climate change. 0.97
00:19:28.000 Oh, you wankers. 0.85
00:19:29.000 They may be amenable to the idea of something similar. 0.99
00:19:32.000 So there you go.
00:19:33.000 That's how it works.
00:19:35.000 These heavily redacted documents show that as early as February 2020, more than a month before the first lockdown, DCMS met Dame Caroline McCall, the chief executive of ITV,
00:19:49.000 to test the possibility of pro-vaccine messaging.
00:19:53.000 So, oh man, this is how it works.
00:19:56.000 You last spoke with Dame Carolyn and Magnus Brooke on 5th of January and the discussion covered a general update on the impacts of ITV business in light further C19 measures.
00:20:04.000 Since that meeting, ITV have noticeably increased their engagement across DCMS and Whitehall.
00:20:08.000 Recently, officials with the Department of Health have been in touch with DCMS about potential assistance from ITV in relation to pro-vaccine messaging.
00:20:15.000 They make it sound so sort of cozy and gentle and kindly, but really what we're discussing now is propaganda.
00:20:22.000 Pro-vaccine messaging did end up in soaps.
00:20:25.000 In one episode of EastEnders, Patrick Truman told Suki Panasa, I guess these are, of course, characters from the show, this character, Patrick Truman, felt like he'd won the lottery after getting his second vaccination.
00:20:40.000 In the same clip, Karen Taylor is accused of being an anti-vaxxer for worrying that developed it too quickly. 1.00
00:20:46.000 But what if he causes myocarditis and miscarriage? 1.00
00:20:49.000 Shut up, you bitch! 1.00
00:20:51.000 Lord Frost said, if Lord Frost, look at how our country works, we still have people called Lord Frost going around making decisions. 1.00
00:21:00.000 Well, we can't trust the people. 0.99
00:21:02.000 They're basically a bunch of hairy, stinking witlocks. 1.00
00:21:02.000 Look at them. 1.00
00:21:05.000 Lord Frost, tell us how to think correctly.
00:21:09.000 Actually, Lord Frost's on our side.
00:21:11.000 If, as it seems, the government quietly work behind the scenes with major broadcasters to shape opinions and compliance on the draconian COVID-19 measures, this is extremely worrying.
00:21:18.000 Sorry, Lord Frost, you're a good lord.
00:21:21.000 You're like Jack Frost.
00:21:23.000 You're like Frosty the sexy snowman.
00:21:26.000 This is extremely worrying.
00:21:27.000 In particular, it's troubling to learn there may have been a coordinated effort to hide positive messaging about lockdown measures into fictional storylines and to target them at particular groups.
00:21:35.000 Actions like that blur the boundary between government and civil society and private life.
00:21:40.000 Yes, and power and control.
00:21:42.000 There is no line.
00:21:44.000 What it does is exposes the fact that it's not that it blurs the line, it's that there isn't a line unless you have faith that it's there.
00:21:52.000 There's a total 360 system of absolute control that is concealed in order that you don't oppose it.
00:21:59.000 That's the reality of it.
00:22:00.000 Broadcasters have a great opportunity to support the nation during a time of...
00:22:04.000 Hey, we've got an opportunity for you. 0.98
00:22:06.000 Could you do as you're fucking told and do some vaccine propaganda for us? 0.97
00:22:10.000 Of course we will, because we're basically dependent on the same system. 0.98
00:22:13.000 It's also vital that key messages, for example, staying at home, reaches particularly younger and middle-aged men.
00:22:21.000 Anyone who's daring to assert a little bit of their own free will.
00:22:25.000 I've actually been made a bit angry about that.
00:22:28.000 So there you are.
00:22:30.000 Whether it's propaganda about...
00:22:31.000 In fact, you can use this as a litmus test.
00:22:33.000 If you're on the fence about where to stand on migration, look at what the propaganda is telling you to do and don't do it.
00:22:40.000 Generally speaking, compassion ought be a super significant and preeminent characteristic in any individual.
00:22:49.000 We're meant to love one another.
00:22:51.000 But do you notice again and again how compassion is used to assert control?
00:22:56.000 Because we want to protect the elderly, everyone take this vaccine. 0.96
00:23:00.000 Because we want to protect the vulnerable, everyone stay in your house.
00:23:03.000 Because life is sacred, shut your mouth and get indoors.
00:23:06.000 They're using drama now to render the idea that civilians requesting information from the government is somehow malign and malevolent. 0.95
00:23:18.000 You are the baddies.
00:23:20.000 Note even the semiotics.
00:23:23.000 After all their high talk, how did it boil down? 0.97
00:23:26.000 This white guy with a beard is a baddie because he's concerned about migration.
00:23:32.000 And this sort of Wonderful Eastrogen Avengers band are the goodies. 0.95
00:23:39.000 And that's what you that's how we want you to see the world.
00:23:43.000 And we're charging you for the privilege because that's a license fee.
00:23:47.000 That means mandatory tax, basically a mandatory tax to pay for state media.
00:23:52.000 That's their concoction. 0.66
00:23:54.000 That's their purview. 0.95
00:23:56.000 And if you disagree with it, you're racist and you are a terrorist in the instance of poor old Whitlock. 0.94
00:24:04.000 Whitlock, the chuckling puppeteer behind Epstein Island. 0.83
00:24:09.000 Whitlock, there he is again, hiding in the corner, sipping adrenochrome, asking for freedom of information act requests.
00:24:17.000 Whitlock flying across the sky, releasing heavy metals to the population. 0.79
00:24:23.000 Oh, Whitlock.
00:24:25.000 Oh, Whitlock, they're causing the war in the Middle East. 1.00
00:24:28.000 Yep, that's the problem.
00:24:30.000 People, normal civilians, concerned citizens asking for information from a government they fund.
00:24:37.000 That's the problem.
00:24:38.000 But that's just what I think.
00:24:39.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and chat?
00:24:42.000 Have you noticed how propaganda is becoming more insidious?
00:24:45.000 Have you noticed, in fact, that entertainment is little more than propaganda?
00:24:48.000 That's what that kind of rancor is that emerges when like a franchise like Star Wars goes all wrong.
00:24:56.000 Because at first, Star Wars was, let's use our understanding of psychological archetypes to create a brilliant and accessible sci-fi drama.
00:25:05.000 Then it became, let's use the same materials to create just an agenda that's about sort of civics, like badly, badly researched civics and woke ideas, godlessness, foolishness, madness, banality.
00:25:20.000 But that's just why I think let me know what you think in the comments and the chat. 0.96
00:25:23.000 You filthy, gorgeous band of Whitlocks. 1.00
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00:27:14.000 Alright then, that's, I think, the best and simplest way to describe it. 0.99
00:27:19.000 You sexy bastards. 1.00
00:27:21.000 Alright then. 1.00
00:27:23.000 Let's do another thing.
00:27:24.000 Watch the EastEnders bet, mate.
00:27:25.000 The East Enders. 1.00
00:27:26.000 Oh, fuck, the East Enders. 1.00
00:27:26.000 I said 21. 1.00
00:27:27.000 It'd be so funny.
00:27:29.000 Oh, yeah, yes, dude.
00:27:30.000 Thank you.
00:27:30.000 Sorry, I forgot about that.
00:27:32.000 You won the lottery?
00:27:33.000 Well yeah, you could see that again.
00:27:36.000 Got the second vaccination?
00:27:38.000 Already, good for you.
00:27:40.000 I'm doing my first one later today.
00:27:42.000 I'm calling it my superpower.
00:27:44.000 Made me that bit more invincible.
00:27:46.000 Ugh! 0.97
00:27:47.000 Oh! 1.00
00:27:48.000 You filthy, stinking, disgusting propaganda. 1.00
00:27:51.000 Made me that bit more invincible. 1.00
00:27:54.000 Science is a wonderful dealer.
00:27:56.000 They put him in front of her.
00:27:57.000 He's standing in front of the lottery thing and he's all sort of moving around and grooving.
00:28:01.000 In all reality, there's a good chance he'd be writhing on the floor having a heart attack.
00:28:04.000 Oh, well, viewing me.
00:28:06.000 Oh, don't tell me.
00:28:07.000 You're one of them anti-vaxxers.
00:28:09.000 You must admit, they pushed it through too quick.
00:28:12.000 Labrettes, that's what we are. 0.97
00:28:14.000 Nah, I ain't having any of that rubbish pumped into me. 1.00
00:28:17.000 Punning me fags, please. 1.00
00:28:20.000 But she'll smoke her cigarettes freely as a free citizen. 1.00
00:28:24.000 How dare she?
00:28:25.000 How dare she smoke or be poor or white or working class? 1.00
00:28:29.000 She should be being vaccinated right now. 1.00
00:28:32.000 Punning me fags, please. 1.00
00:28:42.000 Ten years' time. 0.98
00:28:43.000 Well, we know now it's myocarditis, it's pericarditis, it's miscarriage, it's infertility.
00:28:48.000 To us in five, ten years' time.
00:28:50.000 Well, let me tell you what I do know.
00:28:53.000 Last year, I was lying on our hospital bed, gasping for breath.
00:28:58.000 Thought it was all over.
00:29:00.000 I wouldn't wish that on the world said anything. 1.00
00:29:03.000 COVID might have killed you faster than them fags. 1.00
00:29:06.000 Some of the best scientists have worked on this, but you reckon you know better. 0.99
00:29:10.000 But the best scientists in the world, why?
00:29:12.000 Anthony Fauci.
00:29:14.000 You should see the great work you've done with HIV just a couple of years back and with beagles.
00:29:20.000 What are you saying?
00:29:21.000 Don't trust the government.
00:29:22.000 Don't trust the media.
00:29:24.000 Wait a minute.
00:29:25.000 Hang about.
00:29:25.000 We're on the media right now.
00:29:27.000 Wait a second.
00:29:28.000 I'm reading a script that was sent to me by the bleeding government.
00:29:32.000 Wait, this is getting a bit meta, isn't it? 0.99
00:29:34.000 Why don't you shut up, woman? 1.00
00:29:36.000 I don't need none of this meta-analysis. 1.00
00:29:39.000 I don't trust them scientists. 0.73
00:29:41.000 They're no bloody good. 0.98
00:29:42.000 Give us another bit of snout, would you? 1.00
00:29:44.000 Or them snouts will kill you quicker than that, man. 0.99
00:29:47.000 And you know better? 0.96
00:29:48.000 How's that PhD working out for you, Karen?
00:29:50.000 Yeah, well, I've got plenty of.
00:29:52.000 You ain't got a PhD.
00:29:53.000 You never went to university.
00:29:55.000 You're working class. 1.00
00:29:56.000 Shut your mouth. 1.00
00:29:57.000 You're no Baron Whitlock. 1.00
00:29:59.000 Look at that. 1.00
00:30:00.000 The whole agenda is make working class people look stupid. 1.00
00:30:04.000 They're not educated. 1.00
00:30:05.000 They're terrorists. 0.99
00:30:06.000 If you've got an opinion... 0.99
00:30:07.000 And look at that.
00:30:08.000 The other thing they tried to stripe him up for was asking for information.
00:30:11.000 Don't try and educate yourself either.
00:30:14.000 Whitlock's trying to go to community college and learn something.
00:30:18.000 Get out of here, Whitlock. 1.00
00:30:19.000 You shitbag racist son of a bitch. 1.00
00:30:22.000 Get down to Dover with an assault rifle that you've somehow put together out of lolly sticks and Cadbury's chocolate and tea bags and shoot yourself a baby migrant you fucking racist scums. 1.00
00:30:35.000 I've got plenty of time to think about it, you know. 1.00
00:30:37.000 You're much younger than you.
00:30:38.000 Oh well you want to worry about getting to my age if you carry on thinking like that.
00:30:47.000 After everything we've been through this year, can't help some people.
00:30:54.000 Brilliant.
00:30:55.000 That's a very good bit of propaganda.
00:30:57.000 They collectively shamed an individual into getting the vaccine. 0.99
00:31:02.000 Like imagine if you're watching that, you're at home, you're watching that shit for a start, so your life's in a terrible state. 1.00
00:31:09.000 You're eating crap filthy food. 1.00
00:31:11.000 You're being lied to, you're exhausted. 1.00
00:31:13.000 Oh yeah, spokes I better get the vaccine.
00:31:15.000 I don't end up like Karen.
00:31:17.000 Or far worse yet, Whitlock. 0.99
00:31:19.000 I was about to make myself a rifle and go and shoot some migrants down to the coast. 1.00
00:31:24.000 But now I think I'll go get myself a Pfizer vaccine in my lobby. 1.00
00:31:29.000 Let's puff up my vagina. 1.00
00:31:31.000 All nice and massive till it's like a punch bag, all full of Moderna. 1.00
00:31:34.000 Here, give us another one. 0.99
00:31:36.000 Can't you inject me in my perineum?
00:31:39.000 I've still got a bit of skin you ain't injected with a vaccine. 1.00
00:31:42.000 Can't we get one of Bill Gates' micro fucking nick combs? 0.99
00:31:46.000 Cover that stuff in mRNA and slap it into me larynx so that I can't even think or talk. 0.99
00:31:52.000 Now you're speaking, Sien W man. 0.98
00:31:54.000 Right, don't use that in a short without a fucking source material. 0.97
00:32:02.000 Now you're speaking. 0.98
00:32:03.000 Oh, my God.
00:32:04.000 You dressed him right now.
00:32:06.000 This is amazing.
00:32:08.000 It's just right there out in front for everybody to see it.
00:32:13.000 And to think it's anything other than propaganda, you would actually have to do it.
00:32:18.000 You can really see the BBC live propaganda.
00:32:22.000 Like you can sort of see.
00:32:23.000 Oh, yeah, that's all it is.
00:32:25.000 How much more of this stuff will be revealed as we continue to pay attention? 0.98
00:32:30.000 Let us calmly masturbate to pass the time. 0.92
00:32:35.000 I'm really angry about that. 0.99
00:32:37.000 All right, okay.
00:32:38.000 Yeah, so you'll put that in there somewhere, huh?
00:32:40.000 I'll put that in there.
00:32:41.000 That's so funny.
00:32:42.000 I'm going to open with that, I think.
00:32:44.000 I can't wait to edit that one.
00:32:49.000 It was good, man.
00:32:51.000 It comes from a real place of anger.
00:32:52.000 That's when it's funniest.
00:32:54.000 The passion.
00:32:54.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:32:57.000 Years of build-up.
00:33:00.000 Yeah, that's hitting quite a lot of buttons are getting hit there.
00:33:04.000 He made his rifle from Cabby's chocolate.
00:33:08.000 That's the best thing because it is a Brit, that's all we've got. 0.99
00:33:11.000 It's chocolate.
00:33:15.000 So good.
00:33:17.000 Sweet Karen, she's just trying to raise her kids, go and get some milk from the store. 1.00
00:33:21.000 Oh, she's not doing anything wrong.
00:33:22.000 All she done was asked the question.
00:33:24.000 Teams are developed it a bit too quickly. 0.99
00:33:26.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:33:28.000 How dare you? 1.00
00:33:31.000 What a stupid woman. 1.00
00:33:33.000 Oh, my God. 1.00
00:33:35.000 It's really, really, and that, yeah, it's a sort of an interesting insight into how evil operates.
00:33:41.000 It doesn't, it's like everyone involved in the whole process, just some actors, some bureaucrats, everyone just telling you they're trying to help everyone involved.
00:33:48.000 Put their education down.
00:33:49.000 Oh, have you got a PhD?
00:33:50.000 I was just asking a question.
00:33:52.000 Now it's time for you to maybe educate me.
00:33:54.000 And instead, they just dress it down. 1.00
00:33:56.000 You stupid cunt. 1.00
00:33:57.000 Get the fuck out of the show. 1.00
00:33:59.000 My mum was a prostitute. 1.00
00:34:00.000 I didn't have no opportunity to go, Collins. 0.98
00:34:02.000 You should have thought about that.
00:34:03.000 You and your law slag. 1.00
00:34:04.000 Your mum's just like, fuck off. 1.00
00:34:07.000 Oh, my God, dude. 1.00
00:34:11.000 God, God.
00:34:13.000 That's the perfect show for it to be.
00:34:14.000 This is brilliant.
00:34:15.000 That's what they think of.
00:34:16.000 That is a show by the BBC talking about the scummy part of London from their perspective.
00:34:21.000 The BBC's literally situated in London. 0.92
00:34:23.000 And they're like, well, here's the shitty end of London, the East End. 0.94
00:34:26.000 And that just shows their contempt for those people. 0.88
00:34:28.000 It's literally, like you said, Russell, written by the government.
00:34:33.000 My script is from the government.
00:34:35.000 It's so funny.
00:34:36.000 But the UK is not all propaganda.
00:34:39.000 If you try to speak for yourself online, you'll be arrested and flung in jail.
00:34:44.000 Let's have a look at this man being arrested at an airport after he's got back from Holiday.
00:34:48.000 I'm not even sure what he's done.
00:34:49.000 Let's have a look.
00:34:50.000 Everybody, six on police locking Lee up for Facebook posts.
00:34:55.000 What an utter joke.
00:34:57.000 Can you believe it?
00:34:58.000 Everyone's on police here, so if you could count a bit better, that'll be funny what you're posting, wouldn't it?
00:35:04.000 It's a joke.
00:35:05.000 Utter joke. 0.99
00:35:06.000 Absolute, utter pathetic joke. 1.00
00:35:09.000 Prove it. 0.99
00:35:10.000 Show me, of course, what is what is this?
00:35:12.000 Well, there is some proof apparently.
00:35:13.000 All right.
00:35:17.000 Are you satisfied?
00:35:17.000 Spoiling people's holidays?
00:35:20.000 All for the Facebook post.
00:35:22.000 Let's say this allegation is to prove.
00:35:23.000 How is he satisfied that people offended by what's been said?
00:35:26.000 What's all weird and ask for?
00:35:27.000 Oh dear, that's not what it was for, is it?
00:35:30.000 Everything's gone all wrong.
00:35:31.000 Like when he was stat, well, perhaps it was.
00:35:33.000 Perhaps the police force was always established with the intention of we can then decide who we criminalize and who we don't criminalize.
00:35:42.000 And maybe all that's being revealed is our nostalgic ideas about the good old Bobby on the beat, heartbeat, happier times, just a bobby on a bicycle protecting the community.
00:35:55.000 It's interesting because most people in the police, probably including those police officers there, I pray got involved because they out of a sense of civic duty and compassion and want to protect people, really good values.
00:36:07.000 But, you know, what did he do?
00:36:09.000 Probably did some like at worst, it'll be like an offensive post.
00:36:13.000 Unless the post is, meet me here, bring these ingredients for bomb making. 0.99
00:36:19.000 We're going to fuck up these people. 0.98
00:36:21.000 Unless it's that, it's not a matter. 0.99
00:36:23.000 That's already a crime in siting violence and planning sort of terror.
00:36:28.000 That's what do they call that?
00:36:31.000 What do they call that?
00:36:32.000 It's sort of a word that's a bit like contrition, sedition.
00:36:35.000 I don't know.
00:36:36.000 Anyway, but I don't know.
00:36:39.000 There's a lot being revealed.
00:36:40.000 A lot is being revealed.
00:36:42.000 These are revelatory times.
00:36:44.000 Essex Police have paused their facial recognition program because it was in it. 0.96
00:36:49.000 The cameras, I think they just work better on black people's faces. 1.00
00:36:53.000 So, in a way, it was a continuation of the type of policing they were doing before. 0.73
00:36:59.000 And now, and now this.
00:37:02.000 Belgian state radio hosts smash up a statue of Jesus.
00:37:07.000 Why?
00:37:08.000 Why, lads?
00:37:09.000 Why, Belgium?
00:37:14.000 Oh, no, that's not good.
00:37:15.000 That's not good.
00:37:16.000 That's not good.
00:37:18.000 Oh, well, Belgium, tinting, chocolates, poirot.
00:37:23.000 Now this.
00:37:24.000 Okay, hey, if that's not driven you to the very edge of addiction, then perhaps nothing will.
00:37:30.000 Perhaps you have a good constitution.
00:37:31.000 But me, I live forever on the periphery of addiction, as do Dave and Joe.
00:37:36.000 That's why it's time now for what about you got to play the theme she's got to at least ring for your guitar.
00:37:41.000 Yeah, reach for the guy.
00:37:42.000 Time now for crack on with Dave, Joe, and Russell.
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00:38:18.000 Yeah.
00:38:24.000 Yeah.
00:38:26.000 This week on Crack On, we're going to talk about some aspects of, as Joe says, we do use 12-step literature, even though we are not affiliated with any 12-step group.
00:38:36.000 And it seems to me today to be that we're talking about willingness, steps six and seven, and prayer.
00:38:43.000 Joe, did you select this, my dear friend?
00:38:46.000 Yeah, I selected this.
00:38:48.000 When we spoke the other day, I'm sure you referred to this as the bedevilments.
00:38:53.000 I don't know if it was the fact.
00:38:55.000 Is it when you're restless, irritable, and discontented that it's bedevilments?
00:38:58.000 Or is it when you're in a character defect?
00:39:01.000 I wanted to ask you that question earlier, but I forgot.
00:39:03.000 So we can do it now because we're here.
00:39:05.000 Restless, irritable, and discontent are, I think, more generalised.
00:39:10.000 And I think that comes out of the doctor's opinion.
00:39:12.000 The bedevilments, Dave, will have to hand because we've been reading that recently.
00:39:16.000 It's on page 52.
00:39:18.000 I now know, Dave.
00:39:19.000 Have you got it there with you, mate?
00:39:21.000 Which is pretty cool of how that happened this week.
00:39:24.000 I know we can't share who, but me and Russell went to go help a guy.
00:39:29.000 And like in it, I feel like God showed up and told us, hey, read the bedevilments, which is exactly what he probably needed to hear at that time, I think.
00:39:39.000 God told Dave to read the bedevilments.
00:39:41.000 We were doing the 12-step thing, and I didn't have no idea what to talk about.
00:39:46.000 But I kept going, I'm going to read the big book.
00:39:48.000 I'm going to read the big book.
00:39:49.000 And there was resistance to reading the big book.
00:39:51.000 But eventually when the resistance yielded, I realized that I didn't have no, I didn't know, I didn't have a pre-i predetermined idea of what to read from the big book.
00:40:02.000 And I just went to Dave, what should I read?
00:40:04.000 And Dave went, bedevilments.
00:40:07.000 And like, so it was very in the moment.
00:40:08.000 And in the moment, I think, is where we find our Lord, you know?
00:40:11.000 In spontaneity.
00:40:11.000 Yeah.
00:40:13.000 We trust him.
00:40:15.000 12-step calls, like when, or when you're working with someone just in that, trying to stay in that prayer mode, that sixth sense where you're just asking God, okay, give me the words.
00:40:27.000 Like you're praying in your head and you know that no amount of your cleverness or your skill is what's going to help this person.
00:40:36.000 This person needs a spiritual experience.
00:40:39.000 I mean, that's the main object of the whole 12 steps anyway, is to help you find a relationship with God.
00:40:46.000 And so like you're in that prayer mode of just going, okay, God, just give me the thoughts.
00:40:51.000 And I feel like that happened there.
00:40:54.000 You want me to read it?
00:40:55.000 Yeah, I do, actually.
00:40:57.000 Okay.
00:40:57.000 It's out of page 52 out of the big book.
00:41:02.000 And in this chapter, it's talking, it's we agnostic.
00:41:05.000 So it's talking about how we need a relationship with God, some power greater than ourselves.
00:41:12.000 It talks a lot about laying aside prejudice and just expressing some sort of willingness to have whatever your conception is at the time, some sort of willingness.
00:41:24.000 And it says this, we had to ask ourselves why we shouldn't apply to our human problems the same readiness to change our point of view.
00:41:33.000 We were having trouble with personal relationships.
00:41:35.000 We couldn't control our emotional natures.
00:41:38.000 We were a prey to misery and depression.
00:41:40.000 We couldn't make a living.
00:41:42.000 We had a feeling of uselessness.
00:41:44.000 We were full of fear.
00:41:45.000 We were unhappy.
00:41:46.000 We couldn't seem to be of real help to other people.
00:41:50.000 Was not a basic solution of these bedevilments more important than whether we should see new drills of lunar flight?
00:41:58.000 Of course it was.
00:41:59.000 When we saw others solve their problems by simple reliance upon the spirit of the universe, we had to stop doubting the power of God.
00:42:06.000 Our ideas did not work, but the God I did did.
00:42:10.000 I like the word bedevilments because I like how literal it is.
00:42:16.000 Bedevil, like the devil is in you when you are experiencing these things, governed by your emotional nature.
00:42:24.000 There's a very pagan idea too, of course, like that the humors would be on you, like, you know, the God of Mars is with you.
00:42:32.000 Aphrodite shot by Cupid's arrow, Eros, that when your emotions are on you, there's nothing you can do about it.
00:42:39.000 The Stoics, the Stoicism is the idea that you can, through sort of will, martialed will, handle it.
00:42:47.000 And Christianity is through following Christ, by discipling him, you can similarly overcome him, even in spite of a level of fallibility and vulnerability that Stoicism obviously don't afford you.
00:43:00.000 Stoicism suggests that you have of your own metal and from your own power sufficient resources to confront him.
00:43:08.000 I thought it was a very good choice to use because in a way, some people's addiction issues, and I'm thinking about my own when I came in and Joe's and what I know of yours there, Dave,
00:43:23.000 is it's like if someone's a using drug addict or an alcoholic where you can sort of just point to example after example of well, yeah, but hold on, you got drunk and then you beat that bloke up, or you got drunk, then you lost that job,
00:43:36.000 or you were found taking drugs at this thing.
00:43:39.000 Like I was such a delightful little pamphlet fodder, like I was the sort of drug addict that you could use to sort of go, see, look, that's what drug addiction looks like.
00:43:48.000 Because look, he's getting these opportunities and he's ruining them because he's literally, look, taking drugs now.
00:43:54.000 It's not like it was subtle or anything.
00:43:57.000 It's like, we've got to get out of here.
00:43:58.000 You're taking drugs.
00:44:00.000 You're taking drugs at school. 1.00
00:44:03.000 Stop it, you fool. 1.00
00:44:05.000 But then some people are almost by virtue of their abilities. 1.00
00:44:10.000 It's more masked.
00:44:12.000 The addiction seems somehow secondary.
00:44:17.000 But those descriptions of the emotional ailments and failings lets you know. 1.00
00:44:23.000 It's not like it didn't say the bedevilments are not puked up, got his dick out. 0.99
00:44:29.000 The bedevilments are like can't control his emotional nature. 1.00
00:44:34.000 Useless. 1.00
00:44:35.000 Useless. 0.99
00:44:35.000 Feelings of uselessness. 0.99
00:44:37.000 That's despair, innit?
00:44:38.000 Like that despair that I, you know, I know that I've had that in the last 48 hours.
00:44:43.000 So, Joe, how do you want to square that with what you want to read?
00:44:48.000 And with, you know, I see you're going to read something from page 76 of the same text.
00:44:54.000 I was just reading over those bedevilments and like that's the that's what gets you into these character defects, isn't it?
00:45:01.000 All that feeling of like despair and you're trying to like hold it together and then the most basic thing can just send you over the edge and you can become intolerant and angry and kick off and cause harm, you know.
00:45:12.000 And like, mate, I've been in it the last like couple of weeks, I guess, that feeling of uselessness and just really a heightened state of agitation through doing a lot of travel and stuff and just doing too much and then trying to plan too far into the future. 0.70
00:45:28.000 And then in the end, it feels fucking, I just get into complete despair so fucking quickly, man.
00:45:37.000 And I don't know, mate. 0.93
00:45:40.000 I don't know.
00:45:41.000 I guess this is the six and seven stuff in it.
00:45:44.000 The only bit of reprieve I've had this week from this stuff is doing a step five of a sponsee.
00:45:49.000 And it was a real relief, you know?
00:45:52.000 A real relief.
00:45:52.000 It's like your higher purpose again kicks in and you're back on the path.
00:45:57.000 But it comes around, mate, doesn't it?
00:45:59.000 It comes around again. 1.00
00:46:00.000 It's like you have a big breakdown over some little bit of bullshit. 0.96
00:46:03.000 I had a guy with my mum as well over the quality of coffee at home when I went to visit them off the back of a trip to Morocco to Dubai. 0.98
00:46:11.000 Like I was tired, but I've done a lot of traveling.
00:46:14.000 And then when I got there, I just wanted aware of it when I got there.
00:46:20.000 And I was deep in prayer every morning, been to a few meetings.
00:46:24.000 And I'm thinking, I can handle it. 0.98
00:46:26.000 And then the fucking most basic thing sent me over the edge. 0.99
00:46:26.000 I'm tolerant. 0.99
00:46:29.000 Mum put a little bit of sugar in my coffee and I went mental.
00:46:32.000 I was like, oh, you don't care.
00:46:33.000 You don't listen.
00:46:34.000 Why don't you just pour vodka in it next time?
00:46:36.000 I went mad.
00:46:37.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:46:38.000 Of course, I got her really upset and that. 0.96
00:46:41.000 And the reality of that is, I was fucking binge eating when I was away in Dubai. 0.92
00:46:49.000 Because again, it's me being all discontented. 0.97
00:46:51.000 I'll tell you what, though, I meant to say this.
00:46:53.000 I had a funny interaction on the beach in Dubai, right?
00:46:57.000 Tech stuff kicks in as well, doesn't it?
00:46:58.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:46:59.000 You're looking for anything to get out of yourself.
00:47:00.000 And for me, it was like, there's nice birds here.
00:47:02.000 I'm going to crack onto one.
00:47:04.000 My mate Nav goes, she's looking at you over there with her sunglasses on. 1.00
00:47:07.000 I was looking, oh, yeah, is she?
00:47:09.000 And I thought, when was she out on the beach?
00:47:12.000 On the beach in Dubai, yeah, by the Dubai Marina.
00:47:15.000 There was no drone strikes whilst I was there.
00:47:17.000 It was quite safe, I found.
00:47:18.000 Although we did get a few alerts going off on the phone.
00:47:21.000 Anyway, I've got, he says, you should go and talk to her.
00:47:24.000 And I thought, I didn't think she was looking, but I didn't want to look like a bottle job. 0.91
00:47:27.000 So I thought, well, I'll go over and I'll say hello.
00:47:29.000 I've walked over there, crowds down a little bit.
00:47:32.000 Right, love, you speak English.
00:47:34.000 And this geezer jumps up and goes, no, but I do.
00:47:37.000 Straight on me. 1.00
00:47:38.000 I've thought, you the fuck this guy. 1.00
00:47:39.000 I don't want to talk to you. 1.00
00:47:42.000 Anyway, he goes, it's Joe, innit?
00:47:44.000 Stuck his hand out.
00:47:45.000 I was like, yeah.
00:47:46.000 I was like, where do I know you from?
00:47:47.000 He goes, no, you probably don't.
00:47:48.000 Just been watching you on the podcast.
00:47:50.000 I thought you were in Morocco.
00:47:56.000 It's funny, man.
00:47:58.000 Alex, his name was.
00:47:59.000 He's nice geezer.
00:48:00.000 I spoke to him for a little while.
00:48:01.000 Been for a divorce, moved to Dubai.
00:48:03.000 Been there 12 years.
00:48:03.000 He loves it.
00:48:04.000 He's right against the vaccines and all that.
00:48:06.000 Loves your stuff.
00:48:07.000 Our stuff.
00:48:09.000 Yeah.
00:48:10.000 That's brilliant.
00:48:11.000 I love Joe getting recognised on a beach in Dubai.
00:48:14.000 That's uplifting.
00:48:16.000 What happened with a bird?
00:48:18.000 Yeah.
00:48:19.000 No, it turns out she didn't speak very good English anyway.
00:48:22.000 So I think she was Russian maybe.
00:48:24.000 And she was maybe just looking in our general direction.
00:48:26.000 Or maybe she was looking, but there was a language barrier.
00:48:29.000 You got sidetracked like Pinocchio.
00:48:32.000 I did.
00:48:32.000 It was quite funny.
00:48:33.000 Nav said to me, look, I told you when you go to the beach in Dubai, you always recognise someone famous.
00:48:38.000 He said, but look, it was you what got recognized.
00:48:41.000 You were that.
00:48:44.000 Yes, Joe.
00:48:45.000 It's funny, man.
00:48:47.000 Anyway, how that ties into character defects, don't know.
00:48:50.000 Maybe the ups and downs and whatnot and, you know, jetting about and just trying to find some sort of opportunity and whatnot, I guess.
00:49:01.000 I heard, I've got some good stuff.
00:49:03.000 I heard one time in a meeting, a person go, I'm addicted to myself, a person said.
00:49:08.000 And I like, I like it.
00:49:10.000 And if you think about that, think about, like, say when you're actually in it, in a moment of the bedevilment, say, governed by your emotional nature, feeling of uselessness.
00:49:21.000 Like, I wonder what the endocrenal or neurological correlative of that is.
00:49:26.000 I wonder if it's just like what it is in terms of your circuitry of your mind in the production of whatever hormones, what's ever happening in your endocrenal system.
00:49:36.000 But I know that it's a sort of a closed circuit.
00:49:39.000 I feel that.
00:49:39.000 I feel like it would be a closed circuit.
00:49:42.000 And so when you do a step five with someone else, step five is when someone reads you their history of resentments and problems, which could be as discursive and as deep as this happened to me when I was five.
00:49:58.000 This happened to me when I was seven.
00:49:59.000 This happened to me.
00:50:00.000 The way that I do it these days is I get the, because this is how I was taught to do it by the great Tim M, is like, they write down loads of stuff.
00:50:09.000 They write like you write down, this is how to do a step four, five, the old school big book way.
00:50:16.000 You start by writing down everyone you knew between zero and five.
00:50:20.000 Okay, well, just that's my mum and dad, Vera and Don, my grandparents, they're next door neighbours, like grandparents, you know, you're not going to know that many people were between naught and five, are you?
00:50:31.000 Then between five and ten, you've got now to all the people at your school and you can you notice that 10 to 15, you start to know more people, 15 to 20.
00:50:38.000 You write them all down.
00:50:39.000 You can probably think of a resentment for probably anyone.
00:50:43.000 Like me, if I remember someone, it's probably because I resent them.
00:50:47.000 Probably like, yeah, I didn't like them.
00:50:48.000 I didn't like their sausage dogs.
00:50:50.000 Vera and Don had them sausage dogs.
00:50:52.000 Or like, you know, like, there'll be like, obviously when you're a little child, there might be some sort of sexual abuse or whatever, but it might just be someone was a bit mean to you or something.
00:51:00.000 I don't know.
00:51:02.000 Anyway, then once you've done that, you'll get a sort of a scope of what your life is.
00:51:07.000 You're also, in addition to people, you do places and things, even concepts like the concept of marriage or, in my case, the government, the media.
00:51:16.000 Big, vast sort of institutions that I resent.
00:51:20.000 Then you write down, you have to, when you do it with someone like Tim, he'll make you, in the second column, he'll make you be very specific about what you resent.
00:51:30.000 I resent the government.
00:51:31.000 Why do you resent the government?
00:51:33.000 Then you've got to say, you can't just go, they control me.
00:51:36.000 You've got to write down something that if it was a film, we'd be able to see it.
00:51:41.000 So like if you resent the media, it's like, cause they lied about me when they said this.
00:51:46.000 If it's Glenn Dainty, it's because he won the egg and spoon race when I was five years old at school.
00:51:53.000 You have to be able to see the scene.
00:51:55.000 You can't just go, cause he doesn't love me or he was mean to me.
00:51:59.000 Because otherwise you're still in your projection of reality and your projection of reality is the problem.
00:52:08.000 Now Dave thinks that the third column, where it identifies the seven areas of self that have likely one or all, or you know, or between one and all of these seven areas have been triggered whenever there's a resentment.
00:52:20.000 And those areas are, pride, what I think others think of me self-esteem, what I think of myself, personal relations the script I give others, sexual relations, as above, but pertaining to sex ambitions, what I want in general, security I think that should mean what I need to be okay and pocketbooks, or finances self-explanatory, does it affect you monetarily or financially?
00:52:41.000 Sometimes you'll write out a resentment and you'll realize that every single one of those areas is affected.
00:52:47.000 Like, oh my god, it does affect my pride, it does affect my self-esteem, it does affect my personal relations, my sexual relations, my ambitions, my security, my pocketbook.
00:52:53.000 That's like when you've got that you think, no wonder, like that i'm in this state because every area of self is affected.
00:53:00.000 Now Dave believes that the third column, that's the one where the seven areas of self are listed, is the most important column, whereas i've always thought the fourth column, which is essentially where you're asked eight questions am I making a mistake?
00:53:13.000 What mistakes am I making?
00:53:15.000 And that could be saying like oh, you know, i'm clinging on to the past or i've made this person a god, or actually I lied to that person earlier and thinking about it, I did ask them to come around my, you know.
00:53:24.000 I mean like it's weird, stuff like that you've not admitted to in order to maintain a resentment.
00:53:30.000 Then it asks, am I being selfish, self-seeking or dishonest?
00:53:33.000 Then it asks, what are your defects of character?
00:53:35.000 A list of flaws somewhat comparable to that list in the third column, but including different things like arrogance jealousy impatience, stuff like that.
00:53:42.000 It's a bit more granular.
00:53:44.000 And then what are my fears?
00:53:46.000 And like the fears some people do as a separate inventory, but I like do it there and then I go.
00:53:52.000 So what so?
00:53:52.000 What so?
00:53:53.000 What so?
00:53:53.000 What like?
00:53:54.000 Where you, you?
00:53:55.000 You will generally uncover that even a sort of relatively minor fear, like my mum gave me coffee, will lead to something like that I didn't like will lead to something really profound and sort of awful like that's.
00:54:08.000 That's generally the experience, that you're responding on the surface to something quite minor potentially, but then down deep it's a sort of a core belief, Or sometimes it's a resentment where someone kicked your head in or abused you or stole a load of money,
00:54:25.000 in which case the resentment is a somewhat more obvious, but still there's no such thing as a justified resentment because, in any circumstance, you want to be free of that feeling in order to proceed.
00:54:38.000 And that's where the Christian principle of forgiveness, which I'm increasingly recognizing, is almost like the fuel of participation in the great reality.
00:54:48.000 That if you've got anything that you've not forgiven, and I've really been praying in a sort of a Davidian way, almost like search me, search me, show me what I've not forgiven, or show me what I need to do.
00:55:00.000 Like, you know, like, like the thing is, again, with being a follower of Christ, is that your forgiveness is granted to you by grace, by his sacrifice.
00:55:08.000 But that doesn't mean that you wouldn't, you know, participate in an amends process.
00:55:13.000 Dave, I've got some questions to ask you about that.
00:55:16.000 Well, firstly, anything off the back of what I've just said, but you know, what you think is pivotal about those seven attributes in the seven areas of self in the third column, and maybe also the importance of forgiveness.
00:55:30.000 Yeah.
00:55:31.000 Well, so to tie to tie it into where we started, like when we read the bedevilments, that's right before we're about to hit the self, right?
00:55:42.000 So it's building up to 62 where it's like selfishness, self-centeredness.
00:55:46.000 That's, we think, is the root of our trouble.
00:55:48.000 So when you're seeing those bedevilments, you're like, okay, like identify.
00:55:52.000 It's, you know, when you're talking to someone and you're, you, you give them a description of what happened to you, and they're like, yes, that's me.
00:55:58.000 That's, that's me.
00:55:59.000 It's like those bedevilments are just there going, yes, I am a prey to misery and depression. 0.87
00:56:04.000 I do feel useless.
00:56:06.000 You know, and it's like, what is my basic trouble?
00:56:08.000 Well, it hits it in step three where it's like, you or your basic trouble is selfishness.
00:56:14.000 Dave is his basic trouble.
00:56:16.000 And so when I, you know, like I like how you say a closed circuit, it's like a rebreather almost.
00:56:23.000 It's like you have to get outside of that system, you know, which happens.
00:56:27.000 I don't know of a better time than a fist up with someone else.
00:56:30.000 I'm with Joe on that. 0.56
00:56:32.000 Like, I mean, fist ups have saved my butt more than they've saved anyone else's.
00:56:37.000 And when I'm looking at that, because in a fist up, you're really, you're really seeing how you play God.
00:56:43.000 I'm really seeing how I play God specifically.
00:56:47.000 And like you said, Russell, is when you're writing out that second column, it's never not specific for me. 0.99
00:56:56.000 It's never like, well, you know, I'm resentful at Russell because he's a dick. 0.97
00:57:01.000 Well, that's not really the resentment. 0.98
00:57:04.000 Weird example.
00:57:06.000 Weird.
00:57:07.000 Makes sense.
00:57:09.000 I'm resentful at Russell because he doesn't think you've hurt my feelings.
00:57:14.000 Or he, you know, stole from me.
00:57:17.000 Or there's something specific.
00:57:19.000 There's always something specific.
00:57:22.000 And so I think of that specifics, but when you talk about the, I don't necessarily don't think that the third column is necessarily more important.
00:57:34.000 I think the whole thing's important, right?
00:57:35.000 Like there's no column that's more important.
00:57:38.000 I do think the third column is the most telling for me in my experience so far because one thing I notice and when someone's doing a fist up, when we get to like the third or fourth resentment,
00:57:52.000 usually I've almost every time now, whatever they're leaving off on the third column is the thing that they need to see.
00:58:00.000 And so I'll have an idea going in and I'll be like, okay, you know, this is his general pattern or this is what I think.
00:58:07.000 You know, he uses self-pity to get what he wants or whatever.
00:58:11.000 And then when they actually start doing it, it's always something that I didn't foresee.
00:58:16.000 And it's usually what they're leaving off in their third column is that thing that they're not seeing in order to help them like break free of those resentments.
00:58:26.000 I suppose that makes sense, Dave, because presumably if a person was aware of it, it wouldn't create that type of malaise.
00:58:35.000 Yeah.
00:58:37.000 Sometimes people are aware of it.
00:58:39.000 They see it completely.
00:58:40.000 They're just going, hey, I just don't want to let it go because I'm going to hold this guy in resentment.
00:58:45.000 They're wrong.
00:58:47.000 And you're going, okay, well, one, if you cannot get rid of it, and that's where when you mentioned scripture of like search me and that we need to, you know, be as a Christian, like the concept of forgiveness,
00:59:03.000 I have to see, I have to see, I have to work through that a lot of times.
00:59:08.000 I can't just be like, okay, I just forgive them and I'm not going to have any feelings around it.
00:59:13.000 It's like, I can forgive someone and then still be holding resentment.
00:59:18.000 And so I go, okay, I know that I'm supposed to forgive them.
00:59:20.000 I know that what really you're seeing when you're doing that inventory is you're letting go of your power around that and going, okay, I'm not the, they didn't, it's not against me.
00:59:31.000 Like, God's the one that's the judge.
00:59:33.000 The God's the one that holds that.
00:59:34.000 I'm playing that role.
00:59:36.000 And so every time I do an inventory, it's taking me out of the role of God and putting me back in my place.
00:59:44.000 And so when I, and it's specific.
00:59:46.000 So third column, I think, is it's showing me God-given things that I like, my needs, you know, self-esteem, security, like those things are things that I need.
00:59:59.000 And so as just a broken human, but the way that I go about it is by short-circuiting God.
01:00:07.000 And so it's not that I needed security or I needed pride or I needed money.
01:00:11.000 It's instead of trusting God in it, I went around God to try and get those needs met myself.
01:00:18.000 And so it's not a condom.
01:00:22.000 It's really showing you how you go around God to run your own life.
01:00:27.000 Is every problem then that really?
01:00:31.000 Probably, I think.
01:00:33.000 Yeah.
01:00:33.000 I mean, I don't think you have to be an addict to do that.
01:00:37.000 I think everyone does that.
01:00:39.000 They go around God to try and run their own life or meet their own needs. 0.74
01:00:42.000 And they do it in different ways.
01:00:44.000 I think it shows it specifically in inventory for me.
01:00:48.000 But I do know that there's a realist.