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00:00:01.000Thanks for joining us today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
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00:00:21.000I'm having a conversation right now with Jeff Garner, Who's a eco fashion designer whose new documentary Let Them Be Naked exposes, among other things, the toxins prevalent in our everyday clothing and is trying to revolutionize the industry.
00:00:37.000If you're watching us on YouTube, join us over on Rumble for yet another story that demonstrates how the world we take for granted is pervasively toxic Whether it's our food or even our clothing. I've not heard
00:00:49.000about this story before so I'm fascinated to meet Jeff Garner.
00:00:52.000Jeff, thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:01:37.000Well, you know, I've been doing this 25 years and that's why I called it Let Them Be Naked
00:01:41.000because the idea is that it's better to be nude than to be clothed in synthetics because,
00:01:47.000you know, if you break it down and look at history, we basically, when we started clothing
00:01:51.000ourselves with synthetics after the war, for example, we ran out of silk parachutes so
00:01:56.000So we created nylon in the laboratory, right?
00:01:59.000So DuPont created it, but we never studied the synergy of effect.
00:02:03.000What does that nylon do when a lady goes from silk stockings to nylon stockings, right?
00:02:09.000And that's what we're into today, because as we learned in the food industry, we have like, you know, what we put in our bodies affects our bodies, but we never thought about what we put on our skin, how our skin is permeable, it goes into it, goes into the bloodstream, and we've proven this through science, but you know, nobody's connected the dots, so to speak, and so that's what this doc is all about, it's like I'm connecting the dots Showcasing that, yes, if we put this nylon that's non-breathable, that has toxins in it, it does enter the bloodstream, it does enter your body, it does cause effects, right?
00:03:04.000And nobody's studying this because why would a fast fashion company put money into research to study what they already know is prevalent, which are toxins in their fabrication, and it's going to affect the human health.
00:03:17.000So nobody's going to put money into it.
00:03:19.000So that's why I had to do this doc because I know too much and I had to go to my friends and say, hey, I need some money to do this doc to expose this because more people need to know.
00:03:29.000Because my mom, she basically passed breast cancer two years ago.
00:03:33.000If she would have known that potentially there's these carcinogenic toxins in this bra, in this nylon polyester bra that could cause breast cancer, well, she would have chosen differently.
00:03:54.000Tell me, mate, what evidence is there that microfiber toxicity can create respiratory, immune and gastrointestinal health effects?
00:04:03.000I take your point that there is no appetite for expenditure on unprofitable advances.
00:04:10.000We've talked about this a lot in Big Pharma.
00:04:12.000No one will expend significant sums proving, for example, that natural immunity is effective or vitamin D or Numerous, now notorious, medications that potentially would have been effective in treating coronavirus.
00:04:24.000It's just one obvious prevalent example.
00:04:26.000And in big food, it's plain and apparent that excessive salt, sugar, artificial implementation and even preservation can be detrimental to diet.
00:04:38.000And more broadly, holistically, it's becoming apparent and obvious that our species and our kind have to look at ethnographic and anthropological Information when it comes to designing a way for living i.e.
00:04:49.000if we lived favorably in tribes of a hundred people for hundreds of thousands of years in harmony with our environment eating what grew when it grew and that was beneficial even like now they do those studies in the blue zone I was watching that documentary the other day with that dude and like in places like Occasino I think it's called and some provinces within Italy When they undertake these studies, it's generally people hang out with their friends and eat food that grows nearby and remain active, essentially live in harmony with our own evolution.
00:05:20.000So obviously, I'm completely open to the idea that in the pursuit of profit, in the pursuit of fast turnover, in the pursuit of effective, fast dying techniques and manufactured techniques and fast durability, shortcuts are taken.
00:05:35.000I mean, the nylon example is usually used to demonstrate the ingenuity of collaborative enterprises
00:06:03.000So, is there any evidence that the lymphatic system is inhibited, for example, by the fibres used in the clothing you described?
00:06:15.000And elsewhere, what evidence is there, whilst I appreciate it's often difficult to come by evidence that is unprofitable evidence?
00:06:22.000There's a great book called Dress to Kill that Sid Singer did years ago, and he basically did a study in Fiji.
00:06:29.000And he basically, you could imagine, you know, as all tests, you have to have a case study in which you had women in Fiji that never wore a bra before.
00:06:38.000And then he basically put half of them in bras and kept the other half without bras.
00:06:44.000So what he discovered was basically the women that were in bras, 90% of them developed cancer.
00:06:51.000And so you can read his study and it's basically been buried a few times in that sense, but it's been out there, but it's been buried because you got to understand there's There's companies out there that don't want this to be known.
00:07:06.000There's, you know, chemical companies that have made billions, 37 billion a year off of putting these toxins in the clothing and manufacturing.
00:07:15.000So, yeah, there's ample proof, ample studies, you know, and basically, you know, in that book it goes into detail exactly what, you know, the problem that resides is simply, you know, biochemical levels.
00:07:30.000For example, you know, you were talking about earlier about the respiratory system.
00:07:34.000So, as you can understand, smoking took a long time to prove that it causes lung cancer, right?
00:07:41.000So now we're in that same kind of space where we're trying to prove that these chemicals are off-gas in your clothing.
00:07:47.000For example, if I'm in the sun and I'm sitting in polyester or nylon, it's going to off-gas carbon monoxide, right?
00:07:56.000Say you have a cloth, you know, covered car seat and you close the windows and it sits in the sun, it's going to off-gas.
00:08:04.000You open that car door, you're going to smell that ammonia and that's the off-gassing.
00:08:09.000So that new car smell, that's going to go into your lungs.
00:08:12.000It's going to affect your respiratory system.
00:08:14.000So it's these kind of things that we don't think about on a daily basis because we think somebody approves that this is sitting on a shelf selling in a retail store and it's safe for us.
00:08:30.000Yeah, in this talk we're going to go through, obviously, the science and the proof and all that, but the problem is it's spread out.
00:08:36.000It's in all different years, all different categories.
00:08:39.000There's books, there's published studies, and we're putting it all together so that people can just see the steps and see all the connection points and all the synergies, and that's the important part.
00:08:51.000So, no, I can't sit here and say, hey, there's this one book or this one study that proves it all, because it hasn't been put together.
00:08:58.000So part of the endeavor of your documentary is to correlate and compile the various pieces of evidence that suggest that the fashion industry, or not even the fashion industry, maybe just clothing, fast consumed fashion, the needless consuming and endless acquisition Of commodities has detrimental side effects.
00:09:24.000Now this is something that I guess most of us are to a degree unaware of.
00:09:27.000Certainly me I was thinking then about like what about the t-shirts that we're selling like our merchandise which raises money for our foundation that will now make donations individually to people with addiction and mental health issues that no doubt that's you know that we've sort of gave that to cost effective t-shirt manufacturers that's
00:09:47.000probably the sort of stuff that's affected in this way and it's interesting that even something like this that can
00:09:53.000seem some what niche very quickly if you forgive the
00:09:58.000a pun of the image once you start to unravel those threads you see it starts becoming connected to systems of aggregation
00:10:19.000wear, the shoes that we wear, the TV that we watch, the way that we use technology.
00:10:19.000and consumerism that are fully immersive experiences for us whether it's the way that we eat food, the clothing that we
00:10:19.000We're living in a curated reality that just doesn't apply basic common sense, like it's plain that Synthetic materials will not harmonize easily with the processes of our evolution.
00:10:34.000But as you have pointed out, there is no appetite to demonstrate the problems of toxicity inherent within these models, because it will mean a lot of money will be lost.
00:10:46.000My understanding is that we're wearing more clothes than ever, purchasing more clothes.
00:10:53.000Is it 80 billion pieces of clothing each year that we're just consuming mindlessly products that it's possible are possibly intoxicating and detrimental?
00:11:06.000I mean, when you talk about your merchandise, for example, I started in band merchandise when I was young in Nashville.
00:11:12.000I did all the rock and roll bands and the Plastisol ink is what's used to set the, you know, to run through these dryers.
00:11:20.000And I learned very quickly like, wow, nobody's wearing masks and this person's getting sick.
00:11:25.000And so, yeah, there's, it's pretty much in every, you know, element of production.
00:11:32.000So reality is we don't have You know, these policies that are protecting not only the workers but also ourselves from wearing it because there is a disconnect.
00:11:43.000People think that the, you know, that these chemicals set in their clothing.
00:12:21.000There's detergents that have all these chemicals in it as well.
00:12:24.000These toxins that they don't have to disclose because they're protected as their special ingredient.
00:12:30.000So you could see where it's just really taken over in our fashion world and that's why they say it's the second, you know, most pollutant industry and it really is.
00:12:39.000That's something that you can change quickly and easily.
00:12:41.000You know, all your listeners could literally go home today and change their detergents and that's a very quick Beautiful fix because that will change what the water, you know, I live next to the ocean.
00:12:53.000It's going to go straight in the ocean.
00:12:55.000It's going to go into water streams, etc.
00:12:57.000So, you know, all these things are connected.
00:13:02.000At Community Festival this year, Vandana Shiva, activist and world teacher, gave me a scarf that was grown from cotton that is non-patented seeds, woven by people using traditional practices, dyed with natural indigo.
00:13:19.000And she explained to me that this piece of fabric was revolutionary, bypassing, as it does, many of the systems of control that dominate Indian agriculture and textile manufacturing.
00:13:31.000Of course, Gandhi, that great imperature for disobedience, revolution, opposing imperialism, began many of his campaigns with the simple assertion that he would only wear homespun cloth that he himself was in control of.
00:13:47.000I sense throughout culture, whether it's food or farming, which are obviously ideas that are connected now with what you're talking about, fashion, within diet, Throughout the world, it seems that people are awakening to the idea that what is required are decentralized models.
00:14:06.000As long as we are aggregating and operating with top-down structures where a few monopolies
00:14:14.000or extremely vast enterprises are able to control markets, often because of practices
00:14:19.000like you describe, fast turnaround, chemical support, lack of investigation in alternatives,
00:14:27.000lack of local alternatives, inability for proper competition, inability even to have
00:14:33.000ordinary craft and indigenous design and indigenous practices, because of this tendency, it's
00:14:40.000almost like every area of ordinary life is dominated by consumerism, dominated by profit,
00:14:47.000and things like the potential toxicity are kind of lost by the wayside.
00:14:51.000So it can become quite revolutionary to step outside of these systems.
00:14:57.000So I suppose what you're proposing, Jeff, is that, you know, well, where possible we step outside of these ecologically unwise systems.
00:15:07.000But even then, when you mentioned the detergents and stuff, I feel like things like that are more expensive.
00:15:13.000And I bet with like the sustainable fashion, Is that the first thing that happens?
00:15:17.000It becomes more expensive, people can't afford it, because that's the reason a lot of people are eating terrible food, right?
00:15:22.000It's because it's cheap, it's available, and there's not enough awareness about the alternatives.
00:16:44.000And so we're kind of stuck right now because we want to give that availability to everyone.
00:16:50.000But the fact is, I would go broke if I made a $7 t-shirt.
00:16:54.000I would be paying for everyone's t-shirt.
00:16:56.000Obviously, there needs to be a profound ideological shift.
00:16:59.000We need to break away from the model of disposability and consuming.
00:17:04.000Of course, the easily accessible off-peg items produced elsewhere using technology and techniques that may be detrimental, even carcinogenic, it takes us kind of a step.
00:17:20.000When people talk about the radical change that's plainly required in the world, I sometimes wonder what that will feel like.
00:17:26.000What would it feel like to untether yourself from media that doesn't like you and wants you done?
00:17:32.000What would it feel like to untether yourself from food that is toxic?
00:17:36.000To stop consuming in order to make yourself feel better?
00:17:40.000Of course, I know that there's something that I do.
00:17:42.000I'm still someone who tries to make myself feel better by buying something or watching something rather than staying deeply attuned to what it is I'm experiencing, allowing sadness or fear or grief to pass through me.
00:17:54.000Sooner, just grab something off the peg to soothe it or stuff some sugar down my mouth in order not to feel it.
00:18:01.000In a sense, it becomes quite seismic to reharmonize with nature in a kind of somewhat arcane way.
00:18:09.000Just due to the nature of the processes of civilization, it is a form of progress to recognize these models aren't working.
00:18:17.000This quick fix food that is processed and quick fix consuming and adorning yourself with fabrics that are potentially toxic.
00:19:25.000I've been doing it for 15 years, showing for 10, and I learned very quickly.
00:19:30.000I've done shows at Edinburgh Castle, at Chateau Fontainebleau in Paris.
00:19:34.000I've done these beautiful shows, but I realized those 600 people who see the show, That's a small minute amount to make a change.
00:19:42.000So I realized, you know, I have to go through this medium of a documentary and that could help create it because, you know, you got a lot of articles coming out, books coming out.
00:19:52.000What happens is, as you are well aware, is that PR will spin things, right?
00:19:56.000And so these chemical companies obviously have more money than I do.
00:19:59.000These fast fashion companies have more money than I do.
00:21:16.000You know, I'm doing this for every mother out there, for every individual, everybody that has prostate cancer.
00:21:24.000I just want to give back the power of choice to consumers.
00:21:28.000And that's why I make, you know, hemp boxers for my buddies, because they don't have an alternative.
00:21:33.000You know, there's something in the boxers and polyester, there's a positive and negative ion.
00:21:37.000And when they hit, like when you're a kid and run across the carpet, and you could shock your brother or sister, That is, that's what's happening to your scrotum.
00:21:47.000So there's a reason why we have issues with impotence today and, you know, childbearing issues and etc.
00:21:53.000because it stems from what we're wearing.
00:21:56.000And we just don't realize it because men went from wearing wool boxers to cotton boxers, DVDs, to now these sexy spandex-type, you know, boxers.
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