Stay Free - Russel Brand - “IT MAY ALREADY BE TOO LATE!!" | New CENSORSHIP ADVANCES will KEEP YOU SILENCED - SF 425

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00:02:30.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders!

00:02:32.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand, where we address that most pre-evolent, pre-eminent, significant of issues, censorship and surveillance.

00:02:41.000 That's what got us here.

00:02:42.000 That's why we're on Rumble, because we can speak freely without being censored.

00:02:46.000 Why, I could say almost anything as long as it wasn't a transgression against existing laws, which we have to assume are there for some kind of reason.

00:02:54.000 But it's not just me that we're looking at today because we've got the contributions of Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, who's just biding his time, and Candace Owens on the subject of censorship surveillance.

00:03:06.000 And who is it that determines what is sayable and what cannot be said?

00:03:10.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, we'll be there for about 10 minutes for obvious reasons.

00:03:13.000 Then you're gonna have to click the link in the description and join us over Thank you very much for joining us today.

00:03:27.000 Let's learn now why all of a sudden categories like misinformation, disinformation, and malinformation exist.

00:03:33.000 Who benefits from us being controlled?

00:03:35.000 There's no doubt that the internet generates a great deal of untrue information.

00:03:40.000 By God, I've been subject to a lot of it.

00:03:43.000 But does that mean that we should trust Dubious centralized authorities with the task of censoring what we're able to access?

00:03:50.000 Let me know in the comments in the chat what you think about that.

00:03:53.000 First of all, let's look at that most controversial online pundit and commentator.

00:03:59.000 The sigil and signifier of censored information.

00:04:04.000 Mr. Infowars himself, Alex Jones.

00:04:07.000 Now, of course, we have to be very sensitive what we broadcast when it comes to Alex Jones on YouTube.

00:04:11.000 He's the very kind of complex person that is loathed In the big tech world.

00:04:17.000 But I always remind myself, if you look at some of the things that guy said on tape prior to them happening, if they were attributed to like, I don't know, some Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, even if that Pulitzer Prize winning journalist had made some significant errors, you would consider them more a soothsayer and prophet than just online pundit.

00:04:35.000 What a complex man he is, but certainly he knows how censorship works.

00:04:38.000 Let's have a look at Alex Jones.

00:04:41.000 Alex Jones, it's actually happening.

00:04:43.000 InfoWars is being shut down.

00:04:46.000 The FBI appear to be involved, the CIA appear to be involved.

00:04:49.000 Can you tell us, do you see this as a pivotal moment?

00:04:53.000 If they can come for you and take you down, if they can reclaim your assets, does that mean that this is the first Domino, the next is Tucker, then it's Rogan, that this is, in a sense, the beginning of a series of attacks that will shut down the free speech space?

00:05:11.000 Well, that's right.

00:05:11.000 What they're doing to me is a beta test for everybody else.

00:05:14.000 And I'm just blessed they're doing it, because it shows we've been on the right side of history, on the right target.

00:05:19.000 But if I told you all what happened, and the FBI went in court, admitted they're running, and they have the CIA guy that got caught by Project Veritas spinoff group admitting it all, that's all well known now.

00:05:30.000 But what are we saying they're so scared of?

00:05:32.000 We love God.

00:05:33.000 We love humanity.

00:05:34.000 We love freedom.

00:05:35.000 We love justice.

00:05:36.000 So yes, Our message is scaring the system, so they're trying to shut us down right now.

00:05:43.000 And as bad as this is, I am extremely blessed to be in this position right now.

00:05:49.000 So yeah, I'm more concerned about why is the deep state trying to shut me down right now Is it a Trump assassination?

00:05:56.000 Is it World War III?

00:05:58.000 Is it economic collapse?

00:05:59.000 I don't know, but definitely big stuff's coming because they're so desperate to shut us down right now.

00:06:05.000 It's a long story, but two weeks ago, they tried to without a court order with the CRO and the bankruptcy gets into law, shut us down without a court order.

00:06:14.000 Now there's a court hearing tomorrow.

00:06:15.000 They may shut us down tomorrow, but there is a desperation to shut us off because they don't want us on air when we cover what is about to happen.

00:06:24.000 So I don't think about me.

00:06:26.000 Which, I'm fine.

00:06:26.000 I love talking about me.

00:06:28.000 But I'm not dumb.

00:06:29.000 This isn't about me.

00:06:30.000 Something big is about to happen.

00:06:32.000 Why are they so desperate to get me off air?

00:06:35.000 So you feel it is because of your ability to report and offer insights into stories that they're having to expedite and speed up this process.

00:06:44.000 So we should all hold our breath for something terrifying, which is, I don't even like thinking

00:06:49.000 in those terms Alex, I really don't, I do have enough anxiety.

00:06:52.000 But can you tell me how this unfolded?

00:06:54.000 How we went from the sort of trial that we all saw, where it was about compensation for

00:07:01.000 the victims of Sandy Hook, and I've reported on this before, in a sense, like the way this

00:07:04.000 has been reported on, is not that you said some things that were insensitive and untrue

00:07:10.000 about Sandy Hook.

00:07:12.000 It's almost been portrayed as if you did Sandy Hook.

00:07:15.000 That's the kind of, like, the way that the messaging has been kind of confused and mangled, the way that these kind of, the way these stories play out in the public sphere.

00:07:24.000 How have we gone from that to, we're claiming all of your assets, is it true they're taking your archives?

00:07:30.000 Who would ultimately own InfoWars in this instance?

00:07:34.000 Well, that's a great Russell Brand 2.0 cut right to the chase.

00:07:39.000 They bragged after they won these two court cases, but the judges already found me guilty two years ago in Texas and Connecticut in controlled jurisdictions.

00:07:46.000 The judges found me guilty.

00:07:48.000 They had show trials with HBO literally producing The Truth vs. Alex Jones scripts to the judges.

00:07:54.000 It was all literally a movie script, a movie scene.

00:08:00.000 And so now, they first said, oh, he's got hundreds of millions of hidden money.

00:08:03.000 That wasn't true.

00:08:05.000 Then they went, OK.

00:08:06.000 And now they were in Reuters last week saying, we don't want money.

00:08:09.000 We want him off the air.

00:08:10.000 So they're finally being completely honest.

00:08:12.000 So because they won't do a settlement and because all this is unfolding, the judge can shut us down tomorrow.

00:08:19.000 He may wait a few weeks.

00:08:21.000 We'll find out tomorrow.

00:08:22.000 But Russell, that's where we are, is pure desperation by the power structure.

00:08:28.000 And so it's very simple.

00:08:31.000 Sandy Hook is like a franchise, a money-raising thing, a Democratic Party fundraising deal.

00:08:36.000 I barely ever even talked about it, never even said the things that they said I said.

00:08:41.000 I have a right to say those things.

00:08:42.000 I didn't say those things.

00:08:44.000 So they basically built up this thing of, well, we've got a populist that's anti-globalist, is very popular.

00:08:50.000 We'll just say he's doing all these things he didn't do.

00:08:52.000 Pissing on graves, harassing families, doing all this.

00:08:56.000 And then they get a billion-and-a-half-dollar judgment.

00:08:58.000 They ask for $2.76 trillion.

00:09:01.000 Folks, I know that doesn't sound real.

00:09:02.000 Type in Alex Jones, $2.76 trillion.

00:09:06.000 They asked as if I ever had $10 million, just to create this wall of hysteria and fear.

00:09:13.000 And so now they're trying to take me off air right now with 140-something days left to the election.

00:09:18.000 They're trying to panic everyone because they're scared of populism.

00:09:21.000 They're scared of the people.

00:09:23.000 They're scared of archetypally Joseph Campbell, you know, the great psychologist Carl Jung, off what I represent.

00:09:31.000 So they believe if they can defeat and annihilate and tar and feather that populist image, somehow it will affect everything else.

00:09:39.000 But instead, it has turbocharged the show of 30, 40 million viewers a day.

00:09:44.000 We're as big as we were six years ago before all this started.

00:09:47.000 And so now they are in complete panic mode.

00:09:49.000 And two Fridays ago, so 13 days ago, I'm up here at five o'clock.

00:09:54.000 I'm about to go home to my wife and family.

00:09:57.000 And I know there's more security here.

00:09:58.000 I have a private security firm, but they're under the CRO, the bankruptcy.

00:10:03.000 I said, what's going on?

00:10:03.000 They go, we don't know.

00:10:04.000 At nine o'clock, they're locking the doors.

00:10:06.000 They're going to kick you out.

00:10:07.000 I called my lawyers.

00:10:08.000 They said, no, the CRO can't do that under law.

00:10:11.000 Stop it.

00:10:12.000 So I said, don't do it.

00:10:13.000 They said, yeah, we don't have a corridor.

00:10:14.000 We're not going to.

00:10:15.000 So they were so desperate.

00:10:18.000 They might have been trying to assassinate Trump last week.

00:10:20.000 I don't know.

00:10:20.000 But the point is, something was supposed to happen in the last 13 days

00:10:24.000 that they wanted me off the air. I'm not dumb enough to think, oh, this is about me.

00:10:29.000 No, this wasn't about me. Desperate, hysterical insanity to get me off the air in the last two 0.94

00:10:35.000 weeks, outside of court orders, was about something bigger, maybe a war. I don't know.

00:10:42.000 But clearly, it's not about me. But in their mindset, in this nexus, they thought I was going

00:10:48.000 to say or do something when this next event happens that could block them. And that's what I do.

00:10:53.000 So my only real power is that I understand politics, the world, how systems work, to a little extent, you know, most and most, but not that much.

00:11:01.000 I'm not trying to say I'm a grand poobah, but I've got an understanding.

00:11:04.000 So to me, it's not, oh, I'm so important.

00:11:07.000 It's like, If they're so desperate to shut me down, what are they planning?

00:11:11.000 So that's where we are now, and we could be shut down tomorrow.

00:11:14.000 The judge has said he may do it, but this is so crazy.

00:11:17.000 The plaintiffs, the Democratic Party that runs all this, said to Reuters, AP, and a bunch of other publications last week, they said, no, we don't want money.

00:11:27.000 We want to shut him down.

00:11:29.000 And so, again, I ask the question, okay, I reach 20 million people a day, 30 million some days.

00:11:35.000 Why are they so desperate?

00:11:36.000 To me, I don't think of me, I think, why are they so desperate, Russell?

00:11:41.000 Well, it's a big question in the event that you are, if they take your studio.

00:11:48.000 It seems like it's about taking your assets and taking your studio, slowing you down and preventing you from broadcasting.

00:11:55.000 It's a very strange time.

00:11:57.000 The Trump trial appears to have been built of a coagulation of misdemeanors, a couple

00:12:03.000 of alterations in state law, the eventual and inevitable imprisonment of Steve Bannon.

00:12:11.000 All important right-wing or popular political or commentarative figures are being attacked

00:12:18.000 using the law.

00:12:21.000 Few months ago I experienced my own attacks.

00:12:25.000 It seems like any institution is viable as a conduit for attack and now I'm, like you,

00:12:33.000 wondering what's coming.

00:12:35.000 Do you think that ultimately behind this is the CIA, as we saw in that video, where we saw that CIA operative saying, yeah, they want to drain his resources, they want to bankrupt him, we saw that, that's sort of something that was on camera, and it's weird that when we get those things on camera that they don't Have a greater impact.

00:12:50.000 I know they reach a lot of people and I think they galvanize a lot of people, but it seems that they don't have any kind of legal weight, that you're not able to use them in order to oppose this stuff.

00:13:00.000 What means of opposition do you have here, Alex?

00:13:03.000 What strategy do you have?

00:13:05.000 How are you going to protect your archive?

00:13:06.000 Because I've heard that they're coming for that.

00:13:08.000 And do you feel like incarceration is a serious and immediate risk?

00:13:16.000 Well, Russell, that's a great question.

00:13:17.000 There's a lot of points there.

00:13:19.000 Again, I just go back to they wouldn't be so hysterical trying to shut me down if something big is about to happen.

00:13:26.000 So they want me off air because something big is about to happen.

00:13:29.000 And I'm asking, what is that big event about to be?

00:13:31.000 But yeah, they.

00:13:33.000 They're trying to shut down the archives.

00:13:36.000 They told me, the court appointed people that said two days ago, they said, you're on air saying you have this archive that's free of all our shows.

00:13:43.000 We've always been free.

00:13:44.000 Stop that.

00:13:45.000 That's a crime.

00:13:46.000 Well, it's not.

00:13:46.000 It's always been free to air.

00:13:48.000 So they don't want our archives that predict all this stuff.

00:13:52.000 I mean, there's incredible predictions there.

00:13:54.000 And we know evergreen stuff is really powerful.

00:13:57.000 So they're really scared of what people are going to dig out of that.

00:13:59.000 And that's really why they wanted to shut me down because reading their own white papers and interviewing top experts and doing this, you know, 14 hours a day and being focused, we have basically predicted what was going to happen.

00:14:10.000 So they're already worried with billions of views of my predictions.

00:14:14.000 Well, they go and they watch these predictions.

00:14:16.000 They know that there's gold there in the fight.

00:14:21.000 So they are hysterical to shut us down because they say that victors write the history books.

00:14:26.000 Well, they're getting ready to write the history books.

00:14:28.000 They don't want records there.

00:14:31.000 That exposed them, and I appreciate all the support, and I love everybody, but I want people to know nothing about Alex Jones.

00:14:36.000 They should be thinking, what is it they're about to do that they're so insanely desperate?

00:14:43.000 That's really where I'm at right now, because this is crazy.

00:14:46.000 Outside of a court order, 13 days ago, they ordered the shutdown of our company, and tried to order my private security company.

00:14:54.000 I heard like seven years ago, to close the doors.

00:14:57.000 And they didn't do it, there was no court order.

00:14:59.000 So they are hysterical.

00:15:00.000 So we can go, oh great, our enemy's hysterical, they're weak.

00:15:03.000 But the fact that they're so weak is what makes them dangerous.

00:15:07.000 Why are they so hysterical?

00:15:08.000 Like, if it is about preempting some significant event, I'm guessing you're saying it's likely

00:15:17.000 that it pertains to the election.

00:15:19.000 I've heard you say before that you feel like the election might get cancelled, that there could be a race war in your country, that there could be some other reason to delegitimize or derail the electoral process.

00:15:33.000 If that were to happen, wouldn't it be reported on by Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson or other people in the space?

00:15:41.000 Why would it be so significant to remove you and your archive?

00:15:44.000 I'm not being facetious, Alex.

00:15:46.000 I know that there are a lot of things that are unique about you.

00:15:49.000 So it's surely in the uniqueness that the significance must lie, because any of us could report, all of us would see.

00:15:57.000 What's your intuition on that?

00:16:00.000 We're going to have to leave YouTube now.

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00:16:12.000 Well, Russell, I'm always blown away by your insight.

00:16:15.000 I'm not saying it's true.

00:16:16.000 What an incredible response to what I just said.

00:16:20.000 Generals always fight to last war.

00:16:23.000 So if in 2016, and I didn't even know this at the time, but they said this and it's true, we had the RNC in Cleveland and a third of the people out there, hundreds of thousands, were wearing my shirts.

00:16:34.000 We sold like half a million t-shirts the month before.

00:16:36.000 That was selling at cost.

00:16:38.000 So the Democrats go there, the deep state goes there, and they see a third of the people wearing my shirts.

00:16:43.000 They're fighting the last war.

00:16:45.000 So they think if we shut down Alex Jones, we've shut down Russell Brand, Joe Ruggan, Tucker Carlson.

00:16:53.000 You know, Jimmy Dore, all the thousands of other amazing voices.

00:16:58.000 And so, yeah, they they're not that smart spiritually.

00:17:02.000 They attack whatever their last enemy was.

00:17:05.000 So I agree.

00:17:06.000 I'm almost obsolete.

00:17:07.000 A redundant, vestigial, ceremonial.

00:17:11.000 But I feel like I've got a little more work to do to warm people to the next front, because I don't want to keep doing this forever.

00:17:16.000 I want to live on a ranch and just fish all day and drive around and, you know, shoot guns and barbecue.

00:17:22.000 But Exactly.

00:17:24.000 They're worried about me.

00:17:25.000 They're fighting the last enemy, which they say generals always fight the last army.

00:17:30.000 So I think that's the answer, is I'm kind of blessed.

00:17:32.000 They're spending all this time and energy on me while there's all these other... And then I have the paradox of, well, you shouldn't tell them what's really happening.

00:17:40.000 But that's my superpower, telling the truth.

00:17:41.000 So they're like, don't give the enemy intel.

00:17:44.000 Don't tell them what's happening.

00:17:45.000 They're not going to listen to me anyways.

00:17:46.000 They always are Machiavelli.

00:17:48.000 They think if I say the sky's blue, I must be lying.

00:17:51.000 So to me, I know what's happened. 0.99

00:17:54.000 They know we beat their ass before, Bubba Lies to People. 0.99

00:17:58.000 So they're thinking, beat him, we win. 0.99

00:18:00.000 But meanwhile, it wasn't me spurring all these people.

00:18:03.000 It was people waking up on their own.

00:18:04.000 So they're fighting a pyrrhic victory.

00:18:06.000 They're fighting a battle they already lost.

00:18:08.000 Does that make sense?

00:18:10.000 Yeah, that kind of does.

00:18:11.000 I mean, I suppose one of the moments that was most bizarre and defining when Trump took to the White House was his public call with you.

00:18:20.000 That's when I think a lot of people kind of recognised, whoa, politics is changing.

00:18:25.000 Media is changing.

00:18:27.000 Power is changing.

00:18:28.000 You weren't in the position you're in now but you were already a person that people had attacked and derided and people have said this guy's crazy and a conspiracy theorist.

00:18:38.000 And to see you lauded in that way is obviously an indication of great power and your point that generals fight their last battle is clearly a significant one.

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00:20:22.000 Okay, back to the content.

00:20:24.000 The media space is changing so rapidly and has continued to change.

00:20:28.000 Even when you see, like, a cultural artifact that doesn't contain much import in terms of what it literally symbolizes.

00:20:36.000 Literally symbolizes is a bit oxymoronic, but I mean, to see Trump with Logan Paul, you think, wow, the world's different now, man.

00:20:42.000 The world is different.

00:20:44.000 And the machinery of the establishment, and a lot of your viewers and a lot of mine will

00:20:48.000 say that, well hold on, a candidate from the Republican Party who's already had four years

00:20:53.000 in office is part of the establishment by virtue just of that small inventory of ideas.

00:20:59.000 My audience love Trump, I know your audience probably significantly love Trump.

00:21:03.000 So it seems to me that on a global scale, Alex, maybe things are stepping up.

00:21:09.000 Maybe this is, you know, do you see it as being connected to the Russian submarines in the Caribbean?

00:21:15.000 Do you see it connected to the failure of the WHO treaty?

00:21:20.000 Do you feel like what this precipitates... Well, that's it.

00:21:24.000 I totally agree. 1.00

00:21:25.000 The power structure's failing because they're losers and scum, and we want prosperity they don't. 0.99

00:21:31.000 And then they try to blame people that don't want to be slaves as if we did it. 1.00

00:21:35.000 No, the globalists did it.

00:21:37.000 They started a war with Russia.

00:21:39.000 They devalued the dollar.

00:21:41.000 They opened the borders. 0.54

00:21:42.000 And then they want to sit back and point at us that are against it and say, no, it's Russell Bland.

00:21:47.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:21:48.000 It's Joe Rogan.

00:21:49.000 It's Eric Carlson.

00:21:50.000 If they just shut up, this all goes away.

00:21:52.000 No, we're the ones pointing out the problem because we have families that want to fix it.

00:21:57.000 So yeah, that's it.

00:21:59.000 They think that they can shut us up and then it goes away.

00:22:03.000 No, we're the ones pointing the problem out.

00:22:05.000 We're not the ones that cause the problem.

00:22:06.000 So that's what I'm saying is they're pissed at me.

00:22:10.000 Because they were disconnected six, seven years ago and thought they were invincible.

00:22:15.000 And then that didn't happen.

00:22:16.000 So now they're in panic mode.

00:22:17.000 They think, well, we'll just crush this guy.

00:22:19.000 That'll fix it.

00:22:20.000 And instead, it makes us bigger, which I don't enjoy being stepped on or attacked or sued or harassed.

00:22:25.000 People come to my house at night and, you know, they don't come on my property because, you know, what's going to happen to them? 0.99

00:22:30.000 I mean, I'm out of pussy. 1.00

00:22:32.000 Let's just say that. 0.99

00:22:33.000 But at the same time, again, this is a blessing because these people Will not take responsibility for what they've done.

00:22:42.000 It's not Russell Brand or Joe Rogan or Alex Jones did this.

00:22:44.000 We're just wanting to survive and have a future. 0.97

00:22:47.000 They have totally screwed themselves. 0.96

00:22:49.000 And so that's where we are. 0.94

00:22:51.000 But we have to ask the question then, what are they willing to do to maintain control?

00:22:55.000 And I think the sky's the limit.

00:22:57.000 I am reminded for some reason, Alex, of a piece of footage I saw of Colonel Gaddafi addressing an Arab Congress, saying to the co-leaders of various Arabian and North African nations Hold on a minute!

00:23:14.000 They've just killed Saddam Hussein!

00:23:17.000 They've killed Saddam Hussein!

00:23:19.000 Anything is possible!

00:23:21.000 Now within a short period of time, Gaddafi was dead, various coups and resource wars have taken place in all of these territories.

00:23:29.000 This was the kind of the last version of co-opting power. This was the last version of

00:23:35.000 resource wars and wars of dominion, which could be the death throes of the dying corpse of

00:23:42.000 nationalism, or it could be the emergence of real globalism. But I feel like that whatever

00:23:49.000 they're doing against you, to be truly effective, has to be ultimately a part of a plan

00:23:56.000 that will shut down Rogan, will shut down.

00:23:59.000 Ta-ka. 0.86

00:24:00.000 They have to ultimately do that.

00:24:02.000 100%.

00:24:04.000 100%, Russell Brand.

00:24:06.000 When Trump says they're not after me, they're after you, they're going to get through me.

00:24:09.000 That's totally true.

00:24:11.000 I remember a Wall Street Journal article like six years ago before I got banned everywhere saying the left will accept our attack on Assange and the right will accept the attack on Jones.

00:24:19.000 It was a huge 30-page article and they said once they accept that we'll get them all.

00:24:23.000 So people need to know they're coming for everybody right now.

00:24:29.000 Candace Owens has been on an extraordinary journey, both spiritually, publicly, politically, and also as a celebrity.

00:24:35.000 Remember the Kanye West era?

00:24:37.000 But on the subject of censorship, she is forthright.

00:24:40.000 Obviously, for a while, she was working at the Daily Wire, which initially seemed like an incredible partnership, although it famously ended pretty badly.

00:24:48.000 Let's see what Candace Owens has to say on this subject. 0.98

00:24:53.000 I'm a provocateur in the sense that the truth is provocative.

00:24:56.000 The truth is provocative enough, you don't need to actually add anything to the truth, you just have to be willing to tell it.

00:25:01.000 and most people are not because when you start arriving at truth, and I'm talking about,

00:25:05.000 I always thought I was chasing truth, like, you know, Black Lives Matter, it's fraudulent, 1.00

00:25:09.000 you know, they're taking money, okay, that's a little truth, but what is the truth?

00:25:14.000 The truth, you're at the Bible suddenly, right?

00:25:17.000 And then you start to realize that it's not, these people are not attacking Donald Trump,

00:25:20.000 they're not attacking this, it's not about racism, sexism, it's always been about Jesus Christ, right?

00:25:25.000 It has always been about Jesus Christ, that is the person that has always been attacked. 0.98

00:25:29.000 And so for me, there were things politically that I would say catalyzed the inevitable leaning of me

00:25:37.000 into the Catholic faith, and one of the things was just, as you just mentioned, like genocide, right?

00:25:42.000 I was severely propagandized in school, everyone was, depends on where you grew up, but we were severely propagandized into this Now I look back and it's an absurd belief that the only people that have ever experienced genocide, it was World War II, it was done by the Nazis, and it happened to the Jews.

00:26:00.000 And what that does when you are traumatized in a classroom, and I'm saying traumatized for a reason because these are Soviet tactics, to introduce very heavy, scary concepts to a child traumatizes them.

00:26:12.000 Thomas Sowell wrote about this extensively, how the Soviets recognized this, and it leaves an indelible mark on your mind.

00:26:18.000 And so it transforms you into a person that defends things in your life that you don't even comprehend, right?

00:26:25.000 You have a trigger-friendly, suddenly something happens in Israel, and you're just like, Israel can do whatever they want. 0.74

00:26:30.000 I don't care what Israel does at all. 0.97

00:26:32.000 And actually what I'm doing is I'm responding to a trigger, a childhood trigger.

00:26:37.000 Of this fear that's been instilled in me through the three years of programming about the Holocaust, right? 0.78

00:26:43.000 There's no question that, you know, what the Germans did or the German Nazis did was horrific.

00:26:48.000 All things that are done in wars are horrific.

00:26:50.000 But then as I started looking back and I stumbled across that BBC documentary, which I am challenging every person to watch, The Savage Peace, and I recognized that a Holocaust was committed against the Germans during peacetime by the Allies.

00:27:05.000 It ripped me into a new universe.

00:27:07.000 Shocking.

00:27:08.000 Children lined up and shot for the crime of speaking German.

00:27:10.000 These were not Nazis.

00:27:11.000 They did not vote for Nazis.

00:27:12.000 This took place in modern Czechoslovakia.

00:27:17.000 And to hear the Czech citizens talking about what happened and how they were basically This was done, and a large part of our conditioning in America is to make it so that we never peel back that onion and recognize what we were doing. 0.99

00:27:30.000 Twelve million Germans were ethnically cleansed.

00:27:33.000 These were innocent Christians.

00:27:35.000 They had nothing to do with Adolf Hitler.

00:27:37.000 They were removed out of their homes, their belongings were taken, they were lined up, they were shot, and then speech laws were passed so that they could never talk about what they experienced.

00:27:45.000 I have friends in Germany today.

00:27:47.000 They're telling me that my clips are going viral and it's like a quiet conversation.

00:27:50.000 The news won't cover it.

00:27:51.000 And they're just so grateful because a German friend with me shared what happened to his ancestors during this time.

00:27:57.000 And I said, how did you never share this with me?

00:27:59.000 You know, there's a fear of talking about what actually happened because of this version of history, which is very slim.

00:28:08.000 And if you question that narrative, which I have done and I'm doing, and because it's important for us to know the whole truth, And I want to talk about the way Christians were persecuted, which for some reason really deeply upsets people when you talk about Christian persecution.

00:28:23.000 They will attack you with everything that they have.

00:28:24.000 I am being attacked every single day, and I've never been more clear, more happy, and have never felt more strength and more certainty in terms of what I'm doing.

00:28:36.000 I think, Candice, but when you say that there are unexplored and seldom discussed narratives when it comes to ethnic cleansing or the extermination of peoples, the example you've just given of German-speaking people in Czechoslovakia, It is interesting that that's an argument that's also used by people with regard to this particular issue on the diametrically opposed side in that recent debate between Mehdi Hussein and Douglas Murray, both of whom I think are extremely well-equipped communicators.

00:29:14.000 Douglas Murray uses the idea that antisemitism in the sort of common dialectic Highlights Israeli war crimes in a way that this is of course not only his argument but a relatively popular argument in defending Israel's actions if that is indeed what the function of the debate is.

00:29:40.000 Is highlighting Israel's actions while ignoring sort of Muslim violence on other Muslims or the genocides in Syria.

00:29:49.000 Now, so when we say that the Holocaust is but one example of genocide, that genocide is not an event that was unique to World War II, I think all of us are kind of Peripherally aware of the Uyghurs being persecuted and executed in China or the various Congolese massacres and the Tutsi people across the continent of Africa.

00:30:14.000 We're aware that genocide appears to be a part of human history.

00:30:19.000 Are you saying that in some way and in particular the idea of holocaust and genocide has been appropriated and used to facilitate Israeli foreign policy?

00:30:35.000 And if that is what you're saying I wonder how we look at For example, as a British person, Britain's role in the balkanisation and re-bordering of that region, you know, the Balfour Treaty and the Second World War.

00:30:50.000 Because if we're going to start looking at various narratives, which I suppose we must, I suppose we must, then how is it that we find truth there when there are so many, it seems to me at least, potential truths?

00:31:02.000 Right, so one of the things that I did when I started becoming interested in this and recognizing that I had been severely lied to, and it was in large part again due to that BBC documentary, The Savage Peace, it's excellent, it's very hard to find, but I've shared it on my Twitter for people that are looking for it, is I wanted to make sure that I was reading sources that would not Be deemed anti-Semitic.

00:31:22.000 So I started reading Israeli historians and was very shocked to discover that Theodore Herzl wrote in his book, this is a person who's hailed as a hero, that he would kill as many Jews as he needed to to get Israel established as a state.

00:31:35.000 That was just something that he felt was a sacrifice that needed to happen if Israel needed to become a state.

00:31:39.000 And you know, this is long before World War II.

00:31:44.000 I think absolutely, just to be clear, that genocide and Holocaust has been appropriated to further Israel's interest. 0.88

00:31:53.000 There's no question about that.

00:31:54.000 Right now, there's a clip of me going viral.

00:31:57.000 I did an entire episode talking about the German genocide and the German Holocaust, and I raised one issue in that episode, which people should be Confounded by, which is that if Israel is the state that needed to exist, as we are told in America, because of the Holocaust, because Jews needed a home, and because they were put into concentration camps, then why is it that a Jewish man who ran a concentration camp in peacetime and mass murdered Christians in Czechoslovakia, why is it that that man was protected by the state of Israel?

00:32:28.000 Even though he was wanted for war crimes.

00:32:30.000 This is just a fact.

00:32:31.000 I just shared it on my Twitter as well.

00:32:33.000 He was protected by them until the day he died.

00:32:35.000 There's a lot of criminals who mass murdered Christians who were protected by the state of Israel.

00:32:40.000 If you have a right as a Jew to know your history, and I don't doubt that you do, I believe that you do, I've learned your history in the same way that you've learned it.

00:32:46.000 I understand that learning your history is traumatic.

00:32:48.000 It was traumatic for me to learn it as well.

00:32:51.000 Please do not stop Christians from winning their history.

00:32:54.000 Why don't we learn about the Bolsheviks? 0.71

00:32:56.000 Why don't we learn about Henrikh Yagoda?

00:32:58.000 He was the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century.

00:33:01.000 He was putting Christians into gulags. 0.97

00:33:03.000 The Bolsheviks were beheading priests. 0.98

00:33:07.000 They were burning down churches. 0.55

00:33:09.000 I believe that Christians in the West have been propagandized against Christians in the East.

00:33:14.000 And when you start to look at World War II history through the lens of Christianity, things become quite shocking. 0.94

00:33:20.000 The amount of, you know, cathedrals that the Allies bombed at the end of the war due to bad intel.

00:33:25.000 You may have seen that I did the charter Catholic retreat, the pilgrimage, hardest thing I've ever done physically,

00:33:34.000 but you eventually walk for three days, and this is another example,

00:33:36.000 and that cathedral is still standing because there was an American general

00:33:39.000 who, when he was given intel, vomit.

00:33:41.000 There's Nazis inside. 0.74

00:33:43.000 He thought that the intel was weird, and he volunteered himself to go behind enemy lines

00:33:47.000 and to actually look into the cathedral, and it was wrong intel, and that has happened a lot.

00:33:53.000 That happened a lot.

00:33:54.000 Why were Germans firebombed on Dresden?

00:33:57.000 Dresden was an objective war crime, but why were they firebombed on Ash Wednesday?

00:34:01.000 Why did we drop the bomb on Nagasaki?

00:34:02.000 We're not given an answer for that in American classrooms.

00:34:06.000 It's this sort of nebulous, well, we had to end the war.

00:34:09.000 We had to end the war by dropping a nuke on Catholics praying in Nagasaki and wiping out the entire Catholic population. 0.99

00:34:17.000 Am I wrong for knowing that?

00:34:18.000 Yes, that's what they say.

00:34:19.000 You knowing the history is what's wrong if you step outside of the bounds of what we put into your textbook.

00:34:23.000 Well, I'm stepping outside of those boundaries.

00:34:26.000 I am demanding to know more, and I'm spending a lot of time studying, and I want other people to be encouraged to pursue truth, not what is being told to you in a classroom that is being run like a Soviet propaganda cell.

00:34:39.000 You're a phenomenal iconoclast and I suppose early in your career in punditry you addressed the most immediate issue, I suppose, as a black woman talking about the cultural use of blackness and the various political ideas that have been utilized, exploited, criticized, maybe ignored, it depends on your position. 0.97

00:35:02.000 We've argued about that before in some weird bizarro world where I As a proud black woman to defend the rights of my sisters against you, you racist! 1.00

00:35:13.000 And now it's like you've moved into a sort of new terrain of iconoclasm.

00:35:19.000 And I suppose just to sort of mention in passing, because as you must be, I'm aware Of the avalanche of commentary that will no doubt surround this conversation in success, that might be drawing attention to the distinctions when it comes to the holocaust of matters of race, that the Jews are a race as well as a religion, the concentrated time period and their scale, that all of those issues are probably, you know, that we could spend hours on all of those things.

00:35:46.000 But I'm actually very, very interested, Candice, in what you are saying when you talk about the persecution and Execution of Christians.

00:35:57.000 Are you suggesting that there is something significant and a story untold when it comes to the persecution of Christians?

00:36:05.000 Yes, I believe Christians have been intentionally persecuted and I believe that Christians in the West were not aware of these persecutions because of severe propagandist successful efforts that have happened in our school system and the more that you, like I said, peel back the onion and I've spent time and I know that you know that I was baptized in London I've spent time speaking to a lot of European priests and I believe that Catholics have been holding the candle.

00:36:28.000 And when I sat down with one of them, because I wanted to ask every question, you know, and I wanted to, you know, poke the bear, play devil's advocate, say bad things about Catholics and say, well, what about this? 0.75

00:36:38.000 You know, as I was...

00:36:41.000 In this period of study in London and it was just incredible to have this priest, one in particular, look at me and just say, you Americans know nothing.

00:36:50.000 I mean, you know nothing about your own history.

00:36:51.000 You don't know about the Freemasons.

00:36:53.000 You Christians know nothing in America. 1.00

00:36:55.000 America has become a playground for Protestantism intentionally because what does the Bible tell us? 0.99

00:37:01.000 Anything that is not whole necessarily becomes polluted and becomes devilish, right?

00:37:05.000 So the idea is to continually divide, right?

00:37:08.000 The Christians as being divided amongst thousands of Protestant faiths, all believing my truth, my truth, my truth, which is a form of leftism. 0.91

00:37:15.000 Actually, it's a form of Marxism.

00:37:16.000 It's my truth.

00:37:17.000 What is the truth?

00:37:18.000 We need to be one holy apostolic church.

00:37:20.000 That is what I believe.

00:37:22.000 And I believe that that has always been a threat.

00:37:24.000 I believe that all of the wars have been about breaking up Christian empires. 1.00

00:37:28.000 And when even examining, you know, the start of the Russian Revolution, the assassination of the Tsar, most Americans don't know that, but they do know the part where they're like, well, there were these Jewish pogroms and, you know, Jews left Russia and they came to America.

00:37:41.000 Okay, well, how were we able to sift through which Jews that left Russia, as they did, Were the ones that were terrorists who were mass killing Christians. 0.75

00:37:53.000 I think it's part of a relevant part.

00:37:54.000 How did we go through that process?

00:37:55.000 Oh, there is no process.

00:37:56.000 When you read Alexander Solzhenitsyn, and just in the first couple of pages of his book about the gulags, he speaks about how, isn't it amazing that there were trials for the Nazis in the Nuremberg trials, trials, trials, trials, but the Bolsheviks got away with it.

00:38:11.000 There were no trials.

00:38:12.000 Many of them went to America.

00:38:13.000 Many of them went to Israel.

00:38:15.000 They had been protected.

00:38:16.000 They got to live out the rest of their lives and die.

00:38:19.000 That should make you ask a lot of questions.

00:38:21.000 How is it possible that they ran gulags, they created gulag systems, they mass killed Christians, they mass drowned us in barges, they tortured us, and there were no consequences?

00:38:31.000 How is it possible when he says that they looked up at the end of World War II and recognized and were able to see people that were going, this is it, the heroes have won, and these people were still being persecuted and mass killed and we did nothing?

00:38:44.000 Why?

00:38:44.000 These are questions everybody should want to know.

00:38:46.000 You've read in your textbook that we were the heroes, the allies won, we put an end to concentration camps, but we locked arms with Stalin?

00:38:55.000 He was able to just go on doing what he was doing?

00:38:58.000 In fact, you gave him land?

00:39:00.000 You allowed him to storm into German land and mass kill more Christians and establish more concentration camps? 0.88

00:39:07.000 Does this make any sense to you?

00:39:08.000 Have we all been lied to?

00:39:09.000 Have we all been deluded?

00:39:10.000 Yes, I believe so.

00:39:11.000 I think Americans in particular.

00:39:12.000 We've been drugged, so that's a piece of it too.

00:39:15.000 I think big pharma.

00:39:16.000 Right now we're having children in school that 40% of kids in America cannot pass a basic reading exam.

00:39:24.000 So the future will be, I will tell you what history is.

00:39:26.000 You won't even be able to read a book.

00:39:27.000 At least right now I can go back and I can find old history books and learn more about history and sit down with priests who I believe have been holding the candle for Christians for a very long time.

00:39:36.000 In the future, your history will be told to you.

00:39:40.000 These are the bad guys. 0.99

00:39:41.000 The Christians are always the bad guys. 1.00

00:39:42.000 Every time you learn about Christian history, we're always the bad guys. 0.99

00:39:45.000 You learn about the Spanish Inquisition, we're lied about what actually took place then because it makes Catholics and Christians look bad.

00:39:51.000 You know, we're told about the Dark Ages and then the Age of Enlightenment.

00:39:55.000 The Dark Ages weren't dark.

00:39:56.000 It was an age of remarkable Christian progress, a remarkable Christian experimentation. 0.85

00:40:04.000 I am just very passionate now about using my platform to awaken Christians around the world because I believe that when Christians are awakened a lot of the evils in the world will stop.

00:40:13.000 I wanted to ask you about the Christ is King stuff though because that's another one of those moments that has taken to potentially be anti-semitic, deliberately provocative.

00:40:26.000 You did a lot with your eyes there and your eyebrows.

00:40:30.000 That was very efficient.

00:40:32.000 So can you tell me, and do you sometimes delight in that?

00:40:35.000 Do you like saying things that are provocative? 0.99

00:40:37.000 And if not, why do you keep saying things like, Macron's wife's got a willy, Obama's wife's got... Why do you keep saying everyone's wife's got penises? 1.00

00:40:46.000 I never said Obama's wife had a penis. 1.00

00:40:49.000 That came from you. 1.00

00:40:51.000 You did!

00:40:52.000 I heard you!

00:40:52.000 We know they're recording on their end because they slated it!

00:40:58.000 So good!

00:41:00.000 So to unpack that, first and foremost, I was shocked when Andrew Clavin came out with that episode.

00:41:06.000 I guess that was going to be the agreed upon attack on me.

00:41:10.000 The ADL on the very same day kind of ran with this Christ is King bit.

00:41:16.000 It was a very coordinated attack and I think what it was was that there was actually nothing that I said That you could present to the public as Candace as an awful human being.

00:41:25.000 So you just kind of went back and found something and Andrew Klavan went back to a tweet of an actual biblical passage that I shared back in November and said, look, she said Christ is King and this must be a rallying cry.

00:41:35.000 It was bonkers.

00:41:37.000 Honestly, it was bonkers.

00:41:37.000 And genuinely, I feel bad for him because the backlash was severe and it was swept.

00:41:41.000 But that to me is what happens when you just you thought you were going to take on Jesus Christ during Easter week.

00:41:46.000 I mean, the whole plan was just weird and maniacal.

00:41:49.000 But what I will say is I was so grateful for that because I just saw that I genuinely believe that God inspired Andrew to attack me in that way.

00:42:01.000 I see beauty in the way that he attacked me because I was already on this path internally of realizing that I have this platform and I'm a Christian.

00:42:08.000 I have not been using this platform to speak about Christianity and I was just becoming more and more committed into my faith and then that attack To me, it was like a sign from God.

00:42:18.000 Like, look at this!

00:42:18.000 Look at this!

00:42:19.000 You can't even say Christ is King!

00:42:20.000 I was going, what?

00:42:21.000 What do you say?

00:42:21.000 Why can't I say Christ is King?

00:42:23.000 I mean, obviously after sharing, saying Christ is King of my heart, this is what I believe in.

00:42:28.000 How dare you say it?

00:42:29.000 This is like anti-Semitism. 0.72

00:42:31.000 I mean, it was just bonkers.

00:42:32.000 So that was, it was interesting, but I appreciate what he did because it further committed me to my path.

00:42:38.000 I genuinely believe God put that in his mind and made him attack me in that way.

00:42:44.000 Look, given what you've said about shadow governments and the way that power operates, it seems less and less relevant the differences between someone that might have cultural pedigree or heritage on the left versus on the right.

00:42:56.000 And given as well that both of us have come to Christ in the time since we last communicated, the affiliations or affinity with various cultural or political institutions seem less relevant when, of course, the priority becomes a relationship with Christ The willingness to surrender, everything about yourself, the willingness to take on his burden, to carry his cross, to wear his yoke, all of these things now become a priority.

00:43:22.000 But I still wonder, Candice, how Given that in the last year, in a way that we hadn't seen before, there are divisions emerging in the anti-establishment space and your story is perhaps the most obvious example of that.

00:43:38.000 There was this sort of, let's call it conservative or right-wing movement forming that had a sort of an advocacy expression through Turning Point and had a media presence, most notably through Daily Wire, I think we'd have to say.

00:43:53.000 What does this the kind of these recent ramifications suggest and is it possible and is it desirable for us to create new forms of alliance in media as new and independent media increasingly becomes About political advocacy and indeed isn't that why it's being surveilled, censored, shut down, prominent voices being subject to smearing.

00:44:19.000 I mean that's what we're kind of obviously experiencing, the legitimization of censorship through new categories like disinformation etc.

00:44:27.000 Is there, what do you think the obligation is for us to try to find ways to work together and how possible is that?

00:44:35.000 It's very possible, and we just do it.

00:44:37.000 I mean, we obviously know who the media fears, the people that they attack the hardest.

00:44:40.000 They absolutely detest you because you're not a controlled actor, as you once were, and you're talking about real issues.

00:44:48.000 They absolutely detest Tucker Carlson.

00:44:50.000 I mean, that's got to be public enemy number one, you know, Freed Tucker.

00:44:54.000 And me, I get it.

00:44:56.000 I totally get it.

00:44:56.000 I love it.

00:44:58.000 We are so prepared for this.

00:45:00.000 It's a wonderful thing to be persecuted because you're telling the truth.

00:45:04.000 It is a wonderful thing.

00:45:05.000 It's weird how wonderful I feel being persecuted every day by the media.

00:45:09.000 It doesn't make any sense other than to know that that's what it means to come to Christ.

00:45:13.000 And I think that we all do work together.

00:45:15.000 I mean, that is why I'm like, you want to book me on your show?

00:45:17.000 I'll do your show once a week.

00:45:18.000 I'll do your show 10 times a week.

00:45:20.000 And we have to do that.

00:45:21.000 We have to network.

00:45:22.000 We have to promote each other.

00:45:25.000 Well, we're going to cancel her now.

00:45:28.000 She's talking about topics that we don't care about.

00:45:30.000 We're going to cancel Russell Bram.

00:45:31.000 We're going to cancel Tucker.

00:45:32.000 How dare he go out and talk about Putin?

00:45:35.000 And the public is aware that there's a reason why we are so successful.

00:45:38.000 There's a reason why our podcasts are so successful.

00:45:40.000 People are still watching our show because they know they're being lied to by the establishment, and they know that the voices that are willing to keep talking about these topics are the ones that they can trust.

00:45:50.000 And so I think in the future, I think next year, I don't know.

00:45:54.000 I just think a lot of us are going to come together.

00:45:55.000 I think it's going to be like me, you, Tucker, some other independent voices.

00:46:00.000 And we're just going to we will be the new media and we'll be independent from one another, but somehow together that that is my vision for the future.

00:46:09.000 Steve Bannon is a controversial figure, but he's one of those rare individuals that understands how culture operates.

00:46:14.000 Let's have a look now at Steve Bannon's contributions to this conversation, obviously made prior to his incarceration.

00:46:24.000 If I've heard you use the phrase techno-feudalism and I think that's what many people wherever they find themselves culturally or politically fear is that we're being guided, manipulated, maneuvered in fact into a new form of globalism where technological power is utilized to control Our consciousness, our understanding of the public sphere, to manipulate consent and communication.

00:46:51.000 Can you tell me what you mean by techno-feudalism, how it relates to globalism, and who sits at the top of that baronial class in this model of feudalism?

00:47:01.000 Well, if you go back even to the Oxford speech, I tell, I'm kind of calling out younger people who have had a tendency just to vote for progressive neoliberalism, right, and really be led by the cultural side, that you're nothing but Russian serfs. 0.94

00:47:16.000 You're the equivalent of Russian serfs. 0.92

00:47:18.000 You don't own anything and you're not going to own anything.

00:47:21.000 The triad that controls The deal is really what I call the easy money overlords of Wall Street or the City of London or Frankfurt or, you know, Tokyo, Shanghai, but particularly the City of London and Wall Street.

00:47:35.000 Then you have the corporatists, both the American corporatists, but also the multinational corporatists.

00:47:40.000 And on top of that, you've got what I call the sociopathic tech overlords. 0.99

00:47:44.000 And right now, we basically have passed, I think, late-stage capitalism.

00:47:50.000 What I would call finance capitalism.

00:47:52.000 I think you saw that that was kind of the collapse in 2008.

00:47:55.000 And you've seen the rise since then of what I call techno feudalism, which is now we're basically going back to almost the Middle Ages in a feudal society where you're a digital surf.

00:48:06.000 Right.

00:48:06.000 You're essentially not going to own your own content.

00:48:08.000 You don't own your own digital self.

00:48:10.000 You're going to kind of labor away.

00:48:11.000 And as long as you don't come off of the being an indentured servant or being a serf, you can get along.

00:48:17.000 But once you stray outside this and you saw a perfect example, and I think it was one of your great awakenings was during the pandemic of what you saw about what public health officials did and kind of the combination of big tech Working with big government and of course the biopharmaceutical industrial complex, that was a perfect example of techno-feudalism.

00:48:37.000 And unless we start to break this by democratic means, that means the ballot box and people getting very focused on after you have victories of how you start to take apart these apparatuses, then I think this world is really headed to a new dark age.

00:48:53.000 What do we do about the big tech monopolies and their evident, and indeed we've touched upon it, albeit fleetingly, ability to control and censor open conversation and free speech?

00:49:02.000 How do you break those things down?

00:49:03.000 With what mandate?

00:49:04.000 From where?

00:49:05.000 Using what force?

00:49:07.000 Europe is starting, but I think you're seeing here, even the TikTok debate, these entities have to, first of all, two things have to happen.

00:49:14.000 Number one, you have to begin the breakup, like you broke up the Bell system and other massive communications platforms we have.

00:49:22.000 These companies have to be broken up into smaller pieces.

00:49:25.000 We have to get back to their entrepreneurial benefit, not almost their state capitalism controls.

00:49:29.000 They have to be broken up.

00:49:31.000 Number two, a whole series of rights, I think people's digital selves Right now, I think that people have a, you have an analog self and you have a digital self.

00:49:40.000 The digital self is almost raped and pillaged economically.

00:49:43.000 I think that that has to be much more controlled by the individual, that they're going to actually give those rights and those rights are going to have certain economic benefits to them.

00:49:53.000 This has to happen right away.

00:49:55.000 The other thing is I took a couple of simple things.

00:49:57.000 Number one, I think all TV advertising, like for pharmaceuticals, and I think in Canada and Britain, you don't have it.

00:50:03.000 In the United States, MSNBC and CNN is virtually, if you cut it on, it's virtually a little bit of news between a biopharmaceutical advertisement, right?

00:50:14.000 It's unbelievable.

00:50:15.000 That has to cease.

00:50:16.000 I think all types of programming, all types of almost political support for that has to come away.

00:50:22.000 You have to restrict your ability to advertise.

00:50:25.000 You have to, same with the defense industry.

00:50:27.000 You cut on these Sunday shows and the thought-provoking shows in the United States, it's always a Grumman, or it's always Northrop, or it's always the defense contractors.

00:50:36.000 That has to be limited.

00:50:37.000 You have to get their money out of politics to have a fighting chance.

00:50:41.000 Then we have to have very tough antitrust, and I mean antitrust to the last part of breaking it down.

00:50:46.000 Now, the hardest part, and the one that overlays our entire conversation we haven't gotten into, maybe it'll be next time, this whole issue of transhumanism.

00:50:55.000 We are literally, I think, five or six years away from the singularity.

00:51:00.000 And that's just not AI.

00:51:01.000 That's the convergence of CRISPR, biotechnology, quantum computing, advanced chip design, regenerative robotics, artificial intelligence, where on this side you have Homo sapien, you have humanity.

00:51:15.000 On the other side, at minimum, you have Humanity Plus, or what they call Enhanced Man, and I actually think leading to Homo Sapien 2.0.

00:51:25.000 That is the brightest line we've ever had in since recorded history.

00:51:29.000 It's going to happen in your, not just your audience's lifetime, it's going to be a major political issue in the next three to five years.

00:51:36.000 That's why we must break the tech oligarch state.

00:51:39.000 I am a proud, what I call Neo-Luddite.

00:51:43.000 Right?

00:51:44.000 I am all for, I would have treaties and stop this immediately because I think what's happening in transhumanism right now, led by artificial intelligence, and you see the flood to capital and artificial intelligence, well once that happens it gets out of control. 0.94

00:51:57.000 There are things that are going to happen that are so far beyond the Shire's ability to control it.

00:52:03.000 That'll make a farce of everything else we're working on.

00:52:06.000 All the other populist structures we put in it, things to try to get down to subsidiarity, it'll be overwhelmed by this.

00:52:12.000 And I'm to the point, I believe, of some of these guys that you have to have actual, if you need to, direct military intervention into data centers, water supplies that would supply this.

00:52:23.000 What is happening behind the scenes in these big research labs, what's happening behind the scenes in these big companies, and what's happening overseas in places like South Korea, North Korea, Romania, Russia, China, the CCP.

00:52:37.000 You have no idea how advanced some of this stuff is and how it's hurting.

00:52:41.000 Once it comes, it's going to be too late to control.

00:52:44.000 On top of all the issues we have, trying to take back and trying to not be tech-feudalistic, On top of that is really what could be the end of the human era.

00:52:55.000 And I think that's why to be alive today is to say, hey, Divine Providence put me here for a reason, right?

00:53:01.000 For every one of your audience members, what is that reason?

00:53:04.000 And I think the greatest epoch in mankind's history in the, what, 10,000 years or 15,000 years or 20,000 years is about to be upon us, and I think in the next five.

00:53:14.000 If we are indeed facing something as apocalyptic and isypocal as the end of human supremacy and the ability to control reality into the scale that you've just described, don't our political and cultural affiliations that have either been formed around agriculture, i.e.

00:53:32.000 monotheistic Abrahamic faiths, Or are the political ideologies that have emerged from industrialisation, i.e.

00:53:40.000 capitalism and all of its late and failing expressions, or socialism and all of its derivatives, somewhat redundant, and all and we be looking for extreme subsidiarity as local as possible, new alliances to oppose that potential immediately, because I believe you that it's a real threat.

00:53:59.000 This is what I think you're awakening your show, other shows, War Room, and remember, we have a principally a conservative, blue-collar, deeply religious audience.

00:54:10.000 They would rather watch Russell Brand and our audience watches you more than they watch Fox News, right?

00:54:17.000 And here's the reason.

00:54:19.000 Innately know something's up and that's why populism is getting to be that people are putting their time into populism and trying to put in time at the school boards, at the district level to take things back because they understand there's a dark specter that's over us.

00:54:34.000 And the only way to combat that, you're not going to combat that with equal structures.

00:54:38.000 It has to be, if it's going to be defeated, it has to be defeated by essentially an uprising of the Shire. 0.97

00:54:45.000 I mean, is this not what Lord of the Rings was about?

00:54:47.000 I mean, remember, Tolkien was, it was the trenches of World War I. We saw the inhumanity of the mechanized German army and what happened to the basic You know, British Tommy and those great, you know, working men that he'd seen from the Shire and the destruction and how much agony it caused when he went back home.

00:55:06.000 That's what gave him the whole vision of it.

00:55:08.000 That's to me the vision of the Neo-Luddite movement.

00:55:12.000 I'm not anti-technology.

00:55:14.000 I'm anti-out-of-control technology that could end mankind.

00:55:18.000 And we're playing right now with fire and we're empowering Because it comes with so much money, and I just go back to... Remember, Chad GPT just happened.

00:55:27.000 It was just revealed in Davos last year, 14 months ago.

00:55:32.000 Right now, you have Sam Altman trying to raise $7 trillion, and people are not laughing. 0.69

00:55:36.000 They're not saying he's going to raise it, but they're not laughing it off like it's ridiculous.

00:55:40.000 He's actually out there.

00:55:42.000 Who is he going to?

00:55:44.000 Some of the worst people on earth.

00:55:45.000 The hedge fund managers in the United States and the City of London.

00:55:49.000 The Gulf Emirates that dictate the monarchs there to raise this money.

00:55:53.000 Well, they're not actually going to be that.

00:55:55.000 They don't really put the shire at the top of their priority, right?

00:55:58.000 What happens to the good folks in the shire?

00:56:01.000 They put money in control.

00:56:03.000 And that's what you've seen on Wall Street right now.

00:56:06.000 As soon as artificial intelligence, Merged up with the speculative nature of late-stage finance capitalism.

00:56:14.000 That's where you get techno-feudalism to the 10th power, and that is our great fight.

00:56:19.000 We've got to take it one at a time.

00:56:21.000 The hour is late in doing this and combating this.

00:56:24.000 Right now, we don't even have an operating philosophy of what I call neo-Luddites.

00:56:29.000 It's very ill-formed.

00:56:30.000 I think I'm one of the leaders of the movement, and I can't really give you any more depth and explanation than Russell Brand, who's also one of the leaders of this.

00:56:39.000 So, it's all a warning right now, as humanity is under pressure to essentially be overwhelmed by enhanced humanity, controlled by the ultimate puppet masters.

00:56:53.000 Well, firstly, Steve, we've got to brainstorm the name because I bow to no one in my admiration for Ned Ludd and his attacks on industrialization and his understanding of what it was about to do to the peasant class of the United Kingdom.

00:57:07.000 But the Neo-Luddite movement, you've got to come up with some more White House gear that's going to be a little more catchy.

00:57:13.000 And also, I want to point out this.

00:57:15.000 While we're using image systems that are derived from early political structures, i.e.

00:57:22.000 neo-feudalism and techno-feudalism rather, it seems to me that what we are actually being opposed by now is something that is a dark power but, and yet, Luciferian.

00:57:32.000 We are talking about the apex of evil, potentially, and I believe that, as you indicated earlier, that to oppose that, you're not going to be able to bolt something together from these sort of half-arsed, neoliberal, secularised, rationalistic structures.

00:57:46.000 You're going to have to reach down into the very thing that makes us human, our The realization of the divine, the expression of God, God's self, living Christ on earth, transcendence of the individual self, and a willingness to sacrifice all in order to carry the great fight.

00:58:03.000 Now if we are gonna practice that kind of a war, Doesn't it seem that economic models that are somewhat, if not arcane, arcane's not the right word, nostalgic, are they going to be enough to get people up on their feet and out onto the street?

00:58:18.000 And can I add to that question, do you really believe that Trump is about to impose the kind of demonopolising regulations that are required across the big tech?

00:58:26.000 Finance and military industrial complex spaces?

00:58:29.000 Or will he, when in office, as he has been in 2016, ultimately find himself bound and held in the chokehold structures that exist only to perpetuate their own existence?

00:58:39.000 But I believe sometimes, Steve, on both sides.

00:58:41.000 What's the hysteria about?

00:58:43.000 If you want to know what a Trump presidency is going to be like, look at the Trump presidency there's already been.

00:58:49.000 I feel that we have to break beyond these models and my willingness to even look at something as sanctified, though it need not be so, as the Westphalian Treaty and the idea of nation, is because we have got to unlock something extremely powerful, Steve!

00:59:04.000 Extremely quickly!

00:59:06.000 Well, I think the first thing you know, you gotta look it's it's about a process, right?

00:59:11.000 We would love to be able to wish it away and wave a magic wand and have some have somebody come down and help us and do it.

00:59:17.000 We're going to have to do it ourselves.

00:59:18.000 There's there's nobody coming to save us.

00:59:21.000 That's why I think the power of your show and your audience, and remember, they've tried to cancel you like crazy,

00:59:26.000 also the Warment and others.

00:59:28.000 People will search this information out.

00:59:30.000 And the one thing we know about our viewers, the hardest thing we have to do

00:59:33.000 is keep ahead of the viewers because they're out there all day long

00:59:36.000 getting more information and connecting more dots.

00:59:38.000 That's where they're cutting edge.

00:59:40.000 We have to, in the process, take care of first things first.

00:59:43.000 The reality is we have to take care of the economic structures,

00:59:46.000 and that's gonna be a battle all of its own.

00:59:49.000 We have to also take of the connective tissue of all this, which is deep state or administrative state actors.

00:59:56.000 On that note, I can tell you Trump's going to come in like a crusader from the 11th century.

01:00:03.000 The thing about tech and all that, it's complicated.

01:00:07.000 I know that even people that are with me in the populist movement, there's a lot of divergence about tech.

01:00:15.000 A lot of people don't want to get too hard on that.

01:00:16.000 I actually want to shatter it and get it back to human scale, even if we have to lose 40 or 50 years of potential innovation.

01:00:25.000 I'm all for losing.

01:00:27.000 A generation of innovation, as long as this time we do it right and we don't let technology spin out of control, spin out of control of the people's ability to do it.

01:00:36.000 And like I said, this is all, and I use Neil Luddite as the best term I can come up with, but you bring up a great point.

01:00:42.000 I believe the Luddites lost, right?

01:00:44.000 And on this one, Russell, as you know, I'm up here.

01:00:46.000 I'm just a hard-headed Irishman.

01:00:49.000 I am 100% confident, not just in Trump returning to power, but that the populist movement in Europe and other places in the United States will start to take on the vested interests of corporate power and the financial power of the City of London and Wall Street.

01:01:05.000 I tell everybody all the time, I am not I'm overly optimistic on the issue about transhumanism and to take that on. 0.86

01:01:13.000 And I'm a fighter that can often see the sunlit uplands.

01:01:16.000 On this one, it's being formed right now and it's going to be a fight because the power in it is so ultimately powerful.

01:01:26.000 It's so much money and power for these tech oligarchs to control essentially what it is to be human.

01:01:32.000 What it means to be have immortal life, what it means to actually be human, to create, to step into the purpose of God.

01:01:39.000 Remember, I'm a Catholic, so as a believer in the Judeo-Christian West, I believe we're made in the image and likeness of God, and the one thing I always refer to is the most difficult verse in the New Testament in the Gospel of Mark when the apostles, he sent the disciples, the apostles out very early in Mark to go out and to cure the blind and to heal the sick and make the lame walk and they come back to him and he said, how'd it go?

01:02:05.000 And they go, it was good, we did all these things.

01:02:07.000 But the people said, people were saying, We weren't good guys, and you weren't God.

01:02:12.000 They were saying you were Baals above, and we're just taking the power of the devil and doing this.

01:02:17.000 And Christ tells them, He says, hey, don't worry about what people call you.

01:02:21.000 Don't worry about what they call me.

01:02:22.000 That's not the important thing.

01:02:24.000 The only thing that's a mortal sin.

01:02:26.000 He says the only thing that's an unforgivable sin.

01:02:30.000 Is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

01:02:32.000 To blaspheme that thing that makes us totally human.

01:02:34.000 Is we're made in the image and likeness of God, but we're endowed with the Holy Spirit.

01:02:38.000 That spirit, the Dao De Jing, or whatever you want to call it. 0.90

01:02:41.000 That is what makes us fully human, and that connects us, that's the transcendent connection to God.

01:02:46.000 Christ said it's unforgivable, the only mortal sin.

01:02:50.000 Is that, and that's what, in essence, is transhumanism.

01:02:53.000 The power of these oligarchs is to actually be God.

01:02:56.000 And we saw, if you believe in the, at least the story of the Garden of Eden and what it was about, it's the fruit of knowledge, right?

01:03:04.000 The knowledge of good and evil.

01:03:06.000 And this is what we're seeing right now.

01:03:07.000 That fight is the central fight we have, but we have other battles we have to win in the process to take that on.

01:03:16.000 Well, that's all we've got time for today.

01:03:17.000 Thank you very much for joining us.

01:03:18.000 Tomorrow's show is mind-blowing.

01:03:21.000 Do you ever wonder how social media power could be deployed to disrupt existing political systems?

01:03:28.000 It seems like a crazy endeavor, yet it's already happened.

01:03:30.000 Remember when Trump first used Twitter?

01:03:33.000 People were like, he shouldn't be allowed to use Twitter!

01:03:35.000 And now we have presidents just resigning on X and disappearing ethereally, never to be seen again, just to exist as a disembodied voice somewhere.

01:03:43.000 Now we have Some, and you know I think there are a few, but perhaps the most prominent social media commentator-cum-politician is Cyprus' own Phidias, who won the popular vote to become a member of the European Parliament in his country and then promptly went about revealing exactly the kind of hypocrisy and corruption we've long suspected.

01:04:04.000 This man can call Ursula von der Leyen his boss, the woman that did private tech deals with Albert Baller of Pfizer to the tune of millions, some of which may have raised questions and indeed eyebrows, particularly when you consider her husband runs a big pharma company.

01:04:20.000 So much to explore and explore all of it with Phidias, who could be the future of popular politics.

01:04:27.000 Join us tomorrow for that conversation.

01:04:28.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.

01:04:30.000 Many switch it.

01:04:31.000 Switch on.

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