Dr. Joseph Latipo is the former Surgeon General of Florida and author of Transcend Fear, a blueprint for mindful leadership in public health. In this episode, we discuss his career, his views on public health restrictions, early home treatment, and vaccines, as well as how Florida officials made public health decisions that set Florida apart from other states, but did they go far enough? And was it successful? We speak about a variety of subjects, and you are gonna love hearing about them. In this video, you are going to see the future. We are getting some breaking news. We ve got a live shot there. We want you with us as much as possible and as quickly as possible, to facilitate that. To facilitate that, download the Rumble app, click the red button, become an awakened wonder, and get additional videos every single week on subjects like Chemtrails, chemtrails and more! You could have joined us for this conversation, and be part of a powerful movement. You will become a part of the movement. You will be arm you with sweet, sweet freedom, and help arm you understand what a good public official looks like. Let me know in the chat who you think a bad one is. - we want you to be a good one. We want to know who you would like to be included in the next episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand? Stay Free, Stay Awake, Wanna Be a Woke, Wondering, Wonder, Awakened, WON'T YOU? - WON TALK TO YOURSELF? . - E-mail us a Friend of the WON THIS EPISODE? ? WOULD YOU BE A GOOD PROPE? -- E-MAKE A CHAT WITH ME AND OTHER THINGS WE'LL GIVE ME A FRIENDS IN A PODCAST AND OTHER LINKED TO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA LINKED IN OUR FACEBOOK GROUP? AND SUBSCRIKE A LINK TO OUR INSTAGRAM AND OTHER SOCIETY AND LINKS IN OUR PASTORPHONE CHAT TO OUR PEDIOTTERRORISM AND SOCI HAVE A LINK IN A SOCIOTICS AND LINKEDIN TO SOCIOGRAMS AND OTHER PLATTERED TO A SOCIAL GROUP AND POTTERED IN A LINKS TO A THIRD PLATINARY PEDCAST?
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00:03:12.000Now Dr. Joseph Latipo, author of Transcend Fear, was the, and is the, Surgeon General of Florida.
00:03:18.000His book Transcend Fear describes his views on public health restrictions, Early home treatment and COVID-19 vaccines along with how Florida officials made public health decisions that set Florida apart from other states.
00:03:33.000We spoke about a variety of subjects and you are gonna love hearing about them.
00:03:37.000You would have seen it a week earlier if you were in Awake and Wonder on Locals.
00:03:41.000If you're watching us on YouTube, You're gonna be here with us for about 15 minutes and you gotta suck up on them words as if it were the sweet titty milk of a wolf and you were Romulus or maybe Remus.
00:03:52.000As you know, only one twin can survive.
00:03:54.000Now, get ready for the conversation with Dr. Ladipo who shows you what a public official should look like.
00:04:00.000Honest, authentic, open-minded, exciting and illuminating.
00:04:05.000Remember, YouTube will only be with you for a minute.
00:04:21.000It's lovely to meet you directly, if not in person, because during the pandemic period I remember feeling, as I'm sure many people did, that yours was a sane and trustworthy voice during a period where people were losing a great deal of faith in public officials.
00:04:38.000We spend a lot of time on this channel talking about Dr.
00:04:41.000Anthony Fauci as the epitome of this phenomenon, someone that was heralded and held up as the face of the
00:04:48.000reliable bureaucracies of America, but over time has come to be seen as a figure of...
00:04:54.000and again, I'll be careful here because we're still, for the first 15 minutes, streaming on multiple platforms,
00:05:00.000including YouTube, where we face considerable censorship, has come to be seen as someone whose involvement
00:05:06.000historically in complex research, the way that he's received royalties,
00:05:12.000a potential direct involvement in the Wuhan Institute of Virology and their projects,
00:05:18.000have all meant that the trust in him as an individual and public health more broadly has waned significantly.
00:05:25.000You've written a new book, Transcend Fear, a blueprint for mindful leadership in public health.
00:05:31.000Would it be fair to say that you might be a new epitome for public health in America and that Dr Anthony Fauci has taught us many lessons?
00:05:41.000If that analysis is true, could you tell us what the lessons we could learn from the figure of Anthony Fauci?
00:05:51.000Maybe lesson number one is to really examine the deliverer of your information.
00:05:58.000You know, I think a lot of people early on just completely were snowed by Dr. Fauci, but there were a few voices that could see him for who he is.
00:06:07.000And who he is, is a dishonest, self-serving, political animal who happens to have scientific training.
00:06:17.000And we saw him and he misled people in so many ways.
00:06:21.000I mean, the whole mask thing was just epic.
00:06:24.000You know, I still, he was sitting in that 60 minutes interview saying, no one really needs to wear one, which actually was consistent with the science because, because the science hasn't been supportive.
00:06:33.000And then he flipped the script and we were up to maybe two or three masks, I think by the time the pandemic was, was actually starting to cool down.
00:06:42.000You gotta look at the sources of information and really feel whether they resonate with you in terms of your connection with what feels true.
00:06:53.000And he clearly, you know, I don't have anything against him actually, but you can look at him.
00:06:59.000He's obviously a very dishonest, untrustworthy person.
00:07:04.000What you said there about trusting your own instincts and intuition when it comes to appraising, personally appraising public information, that in itself has become quite controversial in your country.
00:07:19.000It seems that we are more and more inclined towards, certainly in terms of legislation, legitimising the state as a kind of Uber parent to us all.
00:07:31.000Determining which information we should even have access to.
00:07:35.000There seems to be some fear and loathing of ordinary Americans.
00:07:39.000Beyond the fear and loathing I might offer, a kind of contempt.
00:07:42.000sense that we, and I mean the people of the world here because I'm plainly not American,
00:07:46.000are not capable of ourselves looking at some data on for example uh vitamin d or other proposed
00:07:57.000measures and of course we're going to get into discussing the vaccine later and making a choice
00:08:00.000for our family. There was an appetite for authoritarianism, there was an appetite for
00:08:05.000mandate. Sometimes mandate was executed, blessedly not as much as I get the sense the state would
00:08:10.000have liked to have mandated it. So this idea that we are actually as individuals, as communities,
00:08:18.000and as families able to for ourselves as sovereign determine what our medical and
00:08:24.000indeed cultural choices are to be seems to be something that's under threat.
00:08:28.000Does that seem like a fair assessment to you, Doctor?
00:08:33.000Now, before Dr. Ladipo answers that question, I've got to let you know on YouTube, as you can see, the countdown's already begun.
00:09:04.000I mean, it's fact and you're absolutely right.
00:09:06.000I know that's something a theme that you've talked about and I'm really appreciative of you talking about it because there are I think there are a lot of people out there who they can sense that there's something wrong, but they're not sure.
00:09:20.000And when you hear a voice like yours that is laying it out very clearly, because no doubt, absolutely, bet your life, that's what we're up against, right?
00:09:33.000It's the individual and the power of the individual with his or her relationship with God and the universe and everything that is out there that makes us special and perfect.
00:09:43.000Versus these people and these forces that want to uphold institutions above the individual.
00:09:51.000I mean, the individual means really almost nothing to them.
00:09:56.000The institution and their conception of what the world should be and ought to be is all that matters to them.
00:10:03.000So that is absolutely, positively what we're up against.
00:10:09.000You are the Surgeon General of Florida.
00:10:12.000You were the Surgeon General of Florida during the pandemic.
00:10:16.000It transpires that Florida is the state that many others aspire to.
00:10:21.000It seems subsequent to the pandemic that Florida's stance, minimal regulation, minimum hysteria and panic, maximum individual freedom, With regard, let's just take this single issue of COVID, given that, you know, you're the Surgeon General and that's the area of, you know, cultural, social and political policy that you're most qualified to comment on.
00:10:44.000Seems that that was the right way to go.
00:10:47.000And oddly, the states in your country that pride themselves on liberalism, which of course
00:10:53.000is a synonym for freedom, were the most authoritarian.
00:11:35.000there is something and when I, you know, when I feel into it, it feels like the almost like an
00:11:42.000hypnotic effect. So not that many years ago, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago or so, you have
00:11:50.000this movement in the United States, this Occupy Wall Street movement.
00:11:54.000And at that time, and actually for many years before that, you had people who were more liberal, who just naturally were less trustful of government, less trustful of companies, less trustful of corporations, and with very good reason, you know?
00:12:11.000And over time, these same people And in that camp, they've completely flipped.
00:12:17.000Now they are, they, you know, listen to the authorities, listen to the health officials, you know, Facebook and these corporations are on our side and they should be having more power to restrict speech and things like that.
00:12:32.000And, you know, and now you've got really people who are now considered conservative.
00:12:37.000They're the people who are less trustful of government.
00:12:40.000They're the people who are less trustful of corporations.
00:12:43.000And they're the people who want more speech.
00:12:51.000Something like a trance almost in terms of moving people to one side and then moving those same people to the other side.
00:12:58.000And obviously it's not pretty to watch because it leads to very bad outcomes as we saw during the pandemic and in many other ways.
00:13:08.000Because I would imagine that as Surgeon General for Florida, even prior to the pandemic, your relationship with pharmaceutical entities would have a degree of complexity because I understand how many regulatory bodies are funded.
00:13:21.000assuming there are channels for funding that connect to the political aspect of your medical
00:13:27.000work that involve having nuanced, shall we say, and possibly even compromised relationship with
00:13:33.000pharmaceutical entities. It's not saying I know for a fact, I'm just guessing. But like in the
00:13:37.000five years leading up to the pandemic, we had this period where the pharmaceutical companies
00:13:43.000were beyond negligent, perhaps even criminal. I know many of these things were settled out of
00:13:48.000court when it came to the issue, policy and messaging around opioids. And it does seem odd
00:13:55.000that after that period, people were willing to embrace companies like Pfizer as saviors.
00:14:03.000And now, as you said just then, Doctor, to look at Facebook and their parent company, Meta, as like friendly entities seems surprising to me.
00:14:15.000It's just recently that Meta, without any Fanfare at all.
00:14:20.000Changed their settings so that what was deemed to be political content could be monitored, controlled, censored is another word for what it seems they're facilitating without anyone knowing it.
00:14:35.000is being censored and it doesn't, as is always the case, fully define what political speech is.
00:14:39.000It includes those social and cultural issues and there's no question that the pandemic became a social and cultural and indeed political phenomena rather than a broadly medical one.
00:14:49.000So are you surprised by how much as a medic you have been hauled into the political arena Was medicine always like that?
00:15:01.000Or is it surprising to you that medicine and the typical boundaries of medicine, i.e.
00:15:07.000make people better using whatever methods, techniques, expertise, experience, pharmacology is necessary or pertinent, has become about identifying with causes that are plainly ideological?
00:15:23.000You know, Russell, all these forces have always been at play.
00:15:27.000And frankly, I was one of their, you know, little puppets as a medical student and as a trainee.
00:15:32.000It was really my wife's help and the pandemic and some work that I do that I describe in my books and spiritual work that helped me shake a lot of the shackles that I had locked myself in unknowingly over the years.
00:15:48.000Well, I would say what's really happened, Russell, is that stuff that was in the background has now moved to the forefront.
00:15:54.000So all of these corrupt forces, they were always at play.
00:15:57.000You know, I mean, certainly you mentioned, you mentioned some of these lawsuits, for example, and these, some of them criminal, that pharmaceutical companies have settled and have lost cases, you know, we can talk about Vioxx, you can talk about I think Neurontin was another one.
00:16:13.000Many medications where consumers have not received the accurate information that was already available to help them and their doctors make good decisions because companies were being dishonest.
00:16:28.000I mean, this has been going on for You know, for a long time.
00:16:35.000But what's special, although horrific in terms of how we had to get here, but what's special about this time that we're in now is that all this stuff that was in the background, it's like coming out in the foreground.
00:16:47.000People are getting to see how ugly it is.
00:16:50.000You know, you see all this cover that our organizations like the FDA in this country and the CDC are doing for a terrible vaccine.
00:17:00.000I mean, something that shouldn't even be on the market.
00:17:03.000You see all the, you know, the kind of the mandates that have happened with, you know, you have firing nurses, like people don't care if someone can't feed their family anymore because they choose to make a different decision about a new experimental product and putting that in their bodies.
00:17:22.000So this stuff that's been in the background is just coming out into the foreground and people can finally see it and it's important and it's special because many people are waking up.
00:17:33.000Yes, it has been a revelatory period indeed.
00:17:36.000We have a question here from a member of our Awakened Wonder community on Locals, which anyone can join and support us.
00:17:44.000And at the moment, we are doing an offer where you get one month free trial.
00:17:48.000So if you don't like it, you can leave.
00:17:49.000That's how confident we are that you'll like it.
00:17:52.000NJ Britt asks, is there any hope of reversing the effects of the mRNA vaccine or is the only option to have early screening for myocarditis?
00:18:00.000Now, we're still on YouTube, so run the counter.
00:18:03.000Now, before we answer that, because I've got a question to ask you as well, Doctor.
00:18:07.000Do COVID vaccines really change your body's DNA, or is this just a conspiracy theory?
00:18:12.000As you will appreciate, these are not questions that can be answered on a platform that uses the WHO's guidelines to monitor its community.
00:18:24.000Click the link in the description if you're watching us on YouTube to hear how the great doctor and writer of Transcend Fear, a blueprint for mindful leadership in public health, answers that question.
00:18:34.000See you on that sweet stream of freedom in a matter of moments.
00:18:38.000So the two questions were, Doc, is there any hope?
00:18:41.000NJ Britt from our community asks for reversing the effects of the mRNA vaccine and do they really change your DNA or is it just a conspiracy theory?
00:18:55.000So, so for the first question, I think, you know, I, it's so, you know, can you think of a time in history where so many people have been regretful of putting something in their body?
00:19:04.000I mean, it's, it's, it's really profound and, you know, and, and I, I honestly, I feel terrible for, for folks who have.
00:19:11.000Have put this in their in their bodies.
00:19:16.000You hear there's a doctor here, for example, Dr. Peter McCullough, and he has some ideas about what people can do to counter some of the effects of the of the vaccine.
00:19:27.000It's a, it's a, I think it's a, it's a difficult thing.
00:19:30.000I mean, it's a, there are other conversations that I've had with people or about spiritual approaches to undo some of the energetic effects of the vaccine since it was conceived in a, just in a, in a, in a, it was conceived in a, in a frequency that you would not want to put in your body.
00:19:48.000So that's what I would say about that.
00:19:50.000And then in terms of this DNA issue, So, you know, we've raised this concern that there is contaminating DNA, which normally is not a big deal necessarily.
00:20:03.000But the problem is that with the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, they have this thing called lipid nanoparticles that transport mRNA and almost certainly DNA into people's cells, which is
00:20:16.000a that's just a completely new risk that has not been accounted for with these vaccines, but it's
00:20:23.000something that the FDA specifically has discussed in terms of the risk that DNA can pose to
00:20:42.000I'll tell you that intuitively, I actually do think that it happens to some degree.
00:20:45.000I think that ultimately, that's what we're going to find.
00:20:49.000Just because, honestly, these vaccines are just products from hell.
00:20:54.000So, I actually do suspect that that's what we're going to probably find.
00:20:59.000And it's just unfortunate, in my opinion, that so many people who were trying to do the right thing or trying to help their neighbor have had their good intentions completely taken advantage of.
00:21:13.000That's just another horrific product of the last few years.
00:21:16.000Yes, it is a pity that our general good will to one another, our willingness to undertake medical measures in order to help more vulnerable people in society, a set of ideals that are not elsewhere practiced by the state, I note, when it comes perhaps to the care of veterans or to the care of Street sleepers or economic inequality more broadly or rampant corporatism and globalism that is marauding across the world.
00:21:44.000It's interesting to see that these type of altruism, philanthropy, fairness and justice do not generally seem to be applied but they came suddenly applicable in in with regard to this singular and as you've suggested revealing issue.
00:21:56.000I also want to ask you doctor about at the beginning there you said that there are potentially spiritual and energetic types of healing that you might endorse or consider when it comes to people that have concerns about vaccine injury Or even perhaps subtler effects, and I mean difficult to diagnose and corroborate effects of having been vaccinated.
00:22:20.000I have a friend that I work with, Dr. Jerome Poubelle, who is a very brilliant chiropractor and healer, and he spoke for a long time at the very early phases of the pandemic of potential threats and risks of the therapies that we're currently discussing, or the injections, I don't know what to call them anymore.
00:22:40.000And like I feel that I don't hear many medical professionals talk in terms of energetic healing or frequencies but many of us know that there's more to healing than that which can be directly physically observed.
00:22:58.000We are after all in the human body dealing with an entity that has an inbuilt tendency inclination and program to heal itself under Many conditions, sometimes spontaneously and surprisingly.
00:23:11.000In spite of your position as a sanctioned political physician, you still remain open to the idea that there is much about healing that we don't understand.
00:23:22.000Can you help me to understand what you mean by that a little more, please?
00:23:55.000And I personally have had a, my own journey that relates to a lot of trauma that I had as a, as a child.
00:24:04.000I actually had, was sexually molested by a babysitter and it, I thought it didn't affect me, but in fact it profoundly affected me and I didn't find out how much it affected me.
00:24:14.000Didn't really become conscious to it until I fell in love with my wife, you know, I don't know, 18 years ago or so.
00:24:21.000And that process of falling in love with her really brought my problems, my problems in terms of the effects that that trauma and other stressors it had on my soul and my being, you know, that soul that lives in all of us and is the thing that connects us to God and makes each and every one of us special in our own special way.
00:24:44.000You know, I had a lot, you know, really profound problems.
00:24:49.000And the journey that my wife and I took, and my wife fortunately is gifted with just natural healing talent and gifts from God, directed me eventually to work with a guy named Christopher Mayher.
00:25:05.000He lives out in Southern California and he's had his own journey and I worked with him and he has a lot of training and insights and things like Chinese meridian, Chinese medicine theory and meridians and other healing modalities.
00:25:23.000And I worked with him for five days and I'll tell you that I would have at the end of the five days, I came in very skeptical.
00:25:30.000I came in because my wife told me that I had to see him.
00:25:36.000And I'll tell you that at the end of our five days working together, I would, without a drop of hesitation, have traded every money, every dollar I had, everything I owned.
00:25:50.000I would have traded the clothes on my back, everything, to have the experience that I ended up having with him.
00:25:58.000It was a completely new lease on life or experience of life.
00:26:04.000And we did things during that week that I did not believe were even a thing or possible, but absolutely.
00:26:13.000It relates to frequencies, it relates to meridians, it relates to energy, it relates even to ancestral
00:26:20.000effects, ancestral trauma, and it relates to our DNA and how our DNA stores and our tissues store
00:26:28.000this information, the information of stress, the information of ancestral trauma, the information
00:26:34.000of our own trauma, and how that affects absolutely how we show up in the world.
00:26:40.000So yes, there's way more to healing than the wonderful things that we've learned in Western medicine.
00:26:49.000Thank goodness for what we can do for people, but there's so much more to healing.
00:26:54.000It's extraordinary to hear someone in your exalted position speak with such humility and open-mindedness about the potential and power of systems of healing that are less easy to concretize And understand materially and rationally.
00:27:16.000I'm very interested to learn more about your experience with this Navy SEAL therapist.
00:27:22.000I'd like to learn more and that's in your book Transcend Fear.
00:27:28.000I know that the foreword is by Bobby Kennedy and afterward by the great Gavin DeBecca, two men that I count among my friends who are Great mentors and very wise people.
00:27:41.000So I suppose on the basis of their inclusion in your book, I wouldn't be surprised that as well as having a good deal of reverence for science and science used correctly, i.e.
00:27:53.000to explore knowledge, explore the known, recognize the unknown, the Necessity for ongoing debate and inclusivity of oppositional views when achieving consensus, even though I suppose those things are obvious, but also that you are open to systems and ideas of healing that go beyond what is prescribed and what is afforded to us in the public conversation.
00:28:22.000Doctor, one of the areas that's been subject to a good deal of scrutiny, debate, and it seems censure, is the topic of excess deaths.
00:28:30.000Here in our country, in the UK, the Office for Statistics, as recently as six months ago, changed the way that they calculate excess deaths.
00:28:40.000And the result of the change in this calculation was to bring excess deaths in the UK during the pandemic period, or at least I think late in 2022, down from an excess number of 30,000 down to 10,000.
00:28:55.000So whatever it is they did to the way they calculate, they said that, you know, it needed updating.
00:28:59.000The result was it appeared like there were less excess deaths.
00:29:03.000That's not the first time I've heard that the subject of excess deaths ...is being controlled, censored, that people are trying to mitigate what we understand and know about this topic.
00:29:15.000And one of the most compelling pieces of evidence that I heard came to me via Dr. Pierre Khoury, with whom I'm sure you're familiar, who pointed out that it was insurance companies re-evaluating the way they established their premiums that revealed people were dying younger than would be anticipated and they just had to charge more for life insurance.
00:29:38.000I wonder what you feel in particular about excess deaths both in your country and across the world and whether or not we will ever have a concrete indicator or evidence, I suppose, that there's a connection between the medications of the last few years and this strange new data.
00:30:03.000It is very hard to prove with the scientific methods, the statistical methods that we have currently, that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have contributed or to quantify that.
00:30:22.000And, you know, and, and part of the reason it's hard to prove is sort is also reflects the tragedy of how the, the vaccines were tested, you know, with a randomized clinical trial, which we had early on in the pandemic, and they were, you know, they were reasonably well designed, at least for COVID, not so much for what they were ultimately marketed for, which is hospitalization death from COVID, they were not designed to evaluate that they were really just designed to evaluate symptomatic COVID.
00:30:52.000We had an opportunity to really compare the groups and people should be very clear that during the randomized part of the trial where you can look at these things without bias and compare things like overall survival between people who received the placebo and people who received the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
00:31:12.000There was no overall benefit in terms of overall life.
00:31:17.000And in fact, in the vaccine group, in the Pfizer trial, believe it or not, more people died.
00:31:24.000More people died in the vaccine arm overall than in the placebo arm.
00:31:32.000And, you know, it's just a shame that the trials were so short and that they weren't even larger in terms of the number of people that were enrolled.
00:31:41.000My sense from evaluating everything that we've seen, all the evidence during the trial, I mean, the fact that these things very clearly eventually cause you these mRNA boosters, eventually cause you to have an increased risk of contracting COVID.
00:31:57.000I mean, it's so obvious and CDC and FDA pretend like these data aren't out there, but it's very clearly the case.
00:32:04.000It's multiple studies from multiple countries find the same thing with the boosters.
00:32:09.000My sense is that, you know, in fact, I would make a very confident bet that they have totally contributed to what is factual, as you said, from health insurance actuarial reports with life insurance, that they've contributed to to excess debts.
00:32:33.000Certainly the lockdowns also contributed.
00:32:36.000There's just no doubt that it was just a terribly inhumane policy, and many people have died as a result.
00:32:42.000But my sense is that these mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have also contributed to the excess deaths.
00:32:50.000But what we should be doing, unfortunately, we have a governor, I've got, you know, and a friend, Governor Ron DeSantis, who's really, I mean, he's, his courage meter is like off the charts.
00:33:01.000He's, He's willing to do whatever it takes.
00:33:11.000Here in Florida, we're working on doing some autopsy stuff.
00:33:14.000What you need, because you don't have the clinical trials anymore, is you need studies where you learn more about the pathological effects of these vaccines.
00:33:24.000Studies that show abnormalities that are consistent.
00:35:36.000At the very beginning, when you were trying to evaluate what was happening, and perhaps you can fold into your response the answer to the question from a member of our community, this is live on Locals, that's where we do many of our premier guest so that there's an opportunity for our
00:36:20.000We're going to have to take unusual measures individually and collectively in order to
00:36:25.000respond to recognizing that the available information was changing.
00:36:32.000And yet the opportunity for authority regulation and profit was not subsiding in alignment with a burgeoning sense that this is something where perhaps vulnerable communities should be protected, where individual freedom should be respected above mandate when it came to the medications, that there are certain groups and communities that should Totally be free to determine for themselves whether or not to take the medication, that it had become politicized.
00:36:59.000Can you tell me what that was like for, you know, as well as responding to our community member there about Ron DeSantis, what it was like for the two of you to strategize and adjust as this live and volatile situation evolved?
00:37:13.000Yeah, so it's really fun to work with him, first of all.
00:37:16.000I mean, we just, you know how it is, there's sometimes people that you just really click with, and it's just, everything's easy with them, and we have that type of relationship.
00:37:26.000I mean, it's just like, it's very easy, he and I, and it's, you know, it's great.
00:37:32.000And for me, as someone who I mean, I'm very fiercely, I'm fatally, if you will, attached to truth.
00:37:54.000So for someone like that in a time like this, it's really, I mean, it's gratifying to work with someone who, you know, whatever the truth is, I mean, that's what he wants to hear and I don't have to tiptoe around it.
00:38:10.000Working with working with him and he's a great guy and you know he's got it's fun to watch him with his kids you know that part of us I think that that connects us all of us even I'm not sure if you're a dad but you know when you see people who are dads with their kids it's always you know it's like that's a shared goodness that you know that many of the guys have.
00:38:32.000And in the beginning of the pandemic, you know, it's just like that.
00:38:34.000Like, you know, I was writing articles while I was a professor at UCLA about the lockdowns, how they were a bad idea, et cetera, et cetera.
00:38:44.000And the fear and all that, and all this media craziness that we had going on in this country and in other countries.
00:38:50.000And Governor DeSantis was like bucking the status quo, right?
00:38:54.000You know, he said, this is harmful to keep the schools closed.
00:39:04.000And you know, and that was every step of the way, right?
00:39:06.000You could not move an inch in the direction of freedom without having these people like lose their S H asterisk T. And that's, that's just how it was.
00:39:15.000And he kept doing it and now we get to do it together.
00:39:17.000So it's, you know, it's been, it's been really great.
00:39:20.000You were subject, I think, to some pretty personal media attacks, vilified and ridiculed.
00:39:26.000Were you surprised by the level of coordination and ability and appetite to dismiss your free speech as well as your professional expertise when it came to this subject, Doctor?
00:40:33.000They don't update the readers about how their predictions that the sky was going to fall and the state was going to descend into some hellish pit didn't come to fruition.
00:40:48.000They do their damage, they dust off their hands, and they're on to the next.
00:40:52.000Next little area where they're going to do some more damage.
00:40:55.000So it's been a surprise to me, even sometimes, even this late in the game, how both vicious and irresponsible and manipulative they can be.
00:41:04.000But, you know, thanks to guys like you, I think more and more people are, I know more and more people are becoming aware of how it's not there.
00:41:13.000Increasingly, they're not a tool for information.
00:41:19.000You know, most people don't want to participate in that.
00:41:21.000Yeah, what's good news, Doc, and thanks for the compliment, is that there is growing mistrust in public health precisely because of, I feel, the figure we discussed at the beginning of our conversation, Anthony Fauci, there.
00:41:36.000And yet many of the comments now in our live community are talking about how you are the very type of person that people would trust as a Surgeon General for an entire nation.
00:41:49.000Indeed, there does need to be Radical change in the type of appointments that are made, in the type of rhetoric that we hear, in the type of manner that the conversation with the public and community at large is conducted.
00:42:01.000What I mean specifically by that is, like you said with the measles outbreak in your state, If you don't want to take your kids to school, then they're your kids.
00:42:15.000You know, like I feel that that's the sort of approach to governing that many of us want.
00:42:20.000Here are a few pieces of information that are interesting, that indicate where the trust in public health, and perhaps one might argue the media more generally, is going with it.
00:42:31.000Being recently announced that it's not legal to refer to ivermectin as animal medicine now, horse paste specifically, which was, you know, in When Attacking Joe Rogan, that's the course that the entire legacy media with one voice parroted That claim.
00:42:50.000CDC have reported the highest childhood vaccine exemption rate ever in the U.S.
00:42:55.000A few of, in our country, only one-fifth of National Health Service staff, that's like nurses, key workers, doctors, etc., have had cold and flu jabs this winter.
00:43:07.000adults have received boosters, a huge drop from 80% in 2022.
00:43:12.000So the ability to implement policy or to control public behavior has been, it seems, adversely affected during this time, which I suppose shows why the medical policy And the policies around communication and censorship had to be aligned, because to me it wouldn't be obvious at all that if you were just presenting a beneficial medicine to a needy public, why censorship and the shutting down of dissent would even be a component.
00:43:43.000What do those sets of facts indicate to you?
00:43:47.000Do you regard them as positive or negative?
00:43:49.000And how would you envisage that trend continuing or being curtailed?
00:43:54.000I gotta say, I really try and stay neutral and even-handed, but I have trouble here.
00:44:07.000These last few years, it's just made it so obviously clear to me that, unfortunately, We have a system in this country and in this world, including your country and every country that they touch, that is designed to maximize profits for corporations, not designed to maximize our health.
00:44:34.000It is a profit intended system that we operate in and it masquerades as a health system.
00:44:46.000And this is not an attack by any means on life-saving surgeries and medications and therapies.
00:44:57.000You know, people have cancer, people have heart attacks.
00:46:22.000And the sooner people really recognize that, I think the sooner we'll be able to create the system that we want.
00:46:29.000To alter that would indeed be a radical, ontological, philosophical shift in your country because I think we all just take for granted now that the purpose of medicine is profit, the purpose of food is profit, and of course it should be argued that both of those entities, certainly at the regulatory level, be geared towards the wellness of the population. A few
00:46:52.000more comments. Jim Earth C137 said this guy would destroy Fauci in a debate, would love to see it. And
00:46:58.000NJBrit in our community asked, if Trump is elected, would you be interested in the Surgeon
00:47:03.000General's position if it were offered?
00:47:05.000And I'd like to add to that, would you, and I don't know if this is something that's encompassed
00:47:12.000within that role, but would you be advocating for a kind of money out of health position,
00:47:18.000an FDA that wasn't funded to the tune of 70%, I think, of its revenue by the companies that
00:47:24.000is supposed to be regulating? Do we need to get lobbying out of politics? Do we need to control
00:47:31.000the way that big pharma companies are able to fund?
00:47:34.000Legacy media and the obvious financial ties and leverage that that gives them.
00:47:39.000What are the kind of changes, given that you've just offered the diagnosis that the problem is that avarice is what motivates the medical profession, what policies could be introduced in this, in the event that you found yourself in a again a vaulted position at the national and federal level, would you, what kind of policies would you and changes would you advocate for Dr. Ladipo?
00:48:04.000Yeah, well I think, you know, I definitely want to have as much influence as possible with these issues because, you know, because I feel obligated to.
00:48:16.000I mean, I feel very strongly that I'm correct in terms of the things that I say and feel.
00:48:24.000And so, you know, I think I'd be open to exploring anything, any way of achieving that, you know, along with my wife and the kids to make sure everyone's on the same page with it.
00:48:35.000You know, it can be tough to be in these positions with a family.
00:48:40.000And, you know, it's interesting because the answer actually isn't going to come from policy.
00:48:46.000The answer doesn't come from policy because It's, it's just it's this it's a common dynamic is you know Russell that when you know when you change the goalposts, or you make something mirror, or you push people this way, those things will change what people do, but when the folks who are involved.
00:49:07.000Like when they care about something different than your objective, they're going to be, they'll constantly and forever be looking for little holes, little ways to get around those new goalposts and those new, you know, those new barriers.
00:49:22.000And they will do that, you know, for eternity, right?
00:49:28.000I mean, that they, that stuff doesn't, it doesn't work as well as, as well as you want.
00:49:34.000So where the change needs to happen is where it's happening right now, which is with the people.
00:49:39.000When you change the vibration of the people, like when you change our orientation to ourselves and to the truth and to information and to our goals and what we want in our lives, These systems that are only about profit and not about health, they will not survive.
00:49:58.000Like one way or the other, they will fall.
00:50:03.000And that type of change is sustainable and can last forever and will direct itself as the circumstances of the world change to meet whatever the needs are at that time.
00:50:15.000So what I would do would be to focus on the people and access to the type of of programs, of interventions, of technology that can help people raise their vibration, shed stress, shed trauma, connect with God, connect with their connection with the universe, connect with themselves, right?
00:51:47.000In a sense, We're all victims of MKUltra now, which, by the way, if you're an AwakendWonder, you'll get a special video on only available to our AwakendWonder community because all of our consciousness is being managed and manipulated.
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00:52:26.000With the amount of censorship that surrounds the issue of Covid, are we ever likely to get the truth about white clots?
00:52:35.000Let's have a look, first of all, at a conversation between Dr. John Campbell and the brilliant Neil Oliver, so that we can understand what these white clots are.
00:52:47.000Then we'll look at John Campbell talking to an expert on the subject, and then we'll look at some medical data and medical analysis, so that we can understand whether this is something we have to continue to be concerned about, and why we're not discussing it more plainly and broadly.
00:52:59.000It really is like something out of a low-grade novel, Neil, isn't it?
00:53:03.000You've got this new, or apparently completely new, pathology being found in dead bodies around the world.
00:53:10.000And we know that these have been found, these strange, mysterious, long...
00:53:15.000Rubbery white clots have been found in bodies in the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia.
00:53:28.000Now, I've actually heard about these some time ago, but I didn't realise how abundant they were.
00:53:34.000And then I was interviewing Major Tom Haviland, who's a data analyst in the States.
00:53:38.000And he's actually reached out to 269 embalmers with an average of 15 years experience each, embalming about 100 bodies a year on average per person.
00:53:49.000And in the year 2023, 73% of these embalmers have observed these strange white stringy rubbery clots.
00:54:14.000I don't like the phrase rubbery clots being said again and again and again, but I suppose even more disgusting than the language and the image is the idea that there are emergent phenomena that aren't being plainly discussed.
00:54:25.000If you consider the amount of propaganda that surrounded the Covid period, how you were informed of all the potential Threats, and the images of spores, and the propaganda films of people coughing out their last, and the hospitals that were erected, and the internment camps, and the medications, and the comms were pretty hot, weren't they?
00:54:48.000Then all of a sudden, like something, as Dr. John observed, quite sci-fi and simultaneously lo-fi and revolting has emerged, and You're not really hearing it discussed to the degree that it perhaps ought if it is as prevalent as is suggested.
00:55:03.000That can be an inch long or can be up to 30 inches long are there and have been pulled out of the arterial systems and the venous systems of dead bodies and there's some anecdotal reports of them being pulled out of living bodies by surgeons as well but we know for sure Okay, so that's the introduction.
00:55:27.000Before we get into Dr John's conversation with a well-informed expert on the subject, let's read you a little text.
00:55:33.000In a world gripped by the relentless march of a pandemic, the discovery of white clots in the deceased has ignited a firestorm of controversy, drawing attention from healthcare professionals, conspiracy theorists and concerned public alike.
00:55:45.000I'm all of those, except I'm not a healthcare professional.
00:55:47.000At the heart of this debate lies a critical question.
00:55:50.000Is there a link between these unusual clots and mRNA COVID-19 vaccines?
00:55:55.000When Thai neurologist Dr Thiruvath, referencing the insights of English YouTuber and retired nurse educator Campbell, took to Facebook to discuss the presence of white clots in the carotid arteries of the deceased, the online community took notice.
00:56:08.000Particularly concerning was Thiruvath's suggestion that these clots found in individuals with a history of mRNA COVID vaccinations might be connected to sudden deaths.
00:56:17.000I can't see that it would be good to have a 30-inch rubbery white blood clot in your arterial system.
00:56:24.000I can't imagine that it would be advantageous.
00:56:27.000And it does seem extraordinary that excess deaths are widely being underreported and mismanaged mathematically by offices of statisticians.
00:56:38.000That heart disease appears to have significantly risen, that certain types of cancer appear to have risen, that these medications were patented in an unusual way at an unusual time, that the lab leak itself is potentially a result of dual-purpose research.
00:56:52.000There are too many intersecting factors for there now to be an odd HG Wells arterial triphid-like story to emerge without it being cause for concern.
00:57:02.000Despite his advocacy for vaccination, Theravath's call for further investigation into these clots stirred a blend of support, scepticism and outright fear.
00:57:11.000I don't like when people go, stop looking into these!
00:57:13.000Perhaps it's my own fault that I haven't seen anyone offer a reasonable explanation.
00:57:18.000And that's what I think censorship obviously fosters.
00:57:21.000Like if you saw someone Senior and plausible come out and go look you're all talking about these rubbery disgusting white blood clots well it's perfectly natural to have them what it is is as a result of this in fact there have always been rubbery white blood clots but you know there's so little trust isn't there these days so much concern so much censorship and also a lack of the kind of discourse that I'm suggesting would be helpful
00:57:43.000The debate over the white clots and their potential linkage to COVID-19 vaccines has not unfolded in a vacuum.
00:57:49.000It reflects broader societal tensions around vaccine safety, efficacy and trust in scientific institutions.
00:57:55.000In the face of conflicting opinions, the call for rigorous, transparent and accessible research has never been louder.
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00:59:05.000The crux of the matter lies in distinguishing between correlation and causation.
00:59:10.000A task that requires meticulous scientific investigation.
00:59:12.000Yeah, and the ability to listen to a host of diverse experts.
00:59:16.000What it doesn't need is scientism and censorship, which is what's been going on for the last five years.
00:59:21.000Amid the fervor, Theravath's decision to cease public discussions on the topic underscores a challenging reality for those advocating vaccine awareness.
00:59:28.000His ongoing commitment to vaccine safety, without outright opposition to vaccination, highlighted the nuanced positions individuals may find themselves in when confronting potential public health issues.
00:59:38.000You could actually take this a lot further than even the issues outlined by this article that health has become A corrupted industry.
00:59:46.000That was evident even if you take coronavirus out of it and you look at the opioid crisis that preceded it and the numerous times big pharma companies have settled out of court to repress embarrassing information.
00:59:56.000If you observe the fact that the FDA is largely funded by pharmaceutical companies and that drugs are often, if not rushed through, then ushered through in order to facilitate profit.
01:00:04.000When you observe that what would always be a matter for individual choice became a matter of mandate in some instances and compulsion in others, you realise that we've travelled a long way, perhaps without the proper papers to facilitate a journey into the type of trust that was undertaken.
01:00:21.000In short, I suppose the whole idea of vaccination, even prior to the controversial period that we're now living in, Is that they may be good for populations, but when it comes to individuals, you have to ask a question.
01:00:32.000And when you have a pharmaceutical industry that's incentivized to release products, have products regulated as lightly as possible, but as regular as conceivable, i.e.
01:00:43.000the normalization of COVID shots, it's flu season, it's COVID season, take these things all the time.
01:00:47.000You have an extraordinary culture of mistrust.
01:00:50.000During the time of the pandemic they became so sort of zealous about the efficacy of vaccines and the absolute need to take them without question.
01:00:57.000I think they created this odd climate where people that were sort of sceptical or concerned like Dr J Bhattacharya or this Dr Thiruvath who are Actually not anti-vaxxers at all that are like doctors and people like Robert Malone who I think invented vaccines.
01:01:12.000They were sort of cast as anti-vaxxers because they were dissenting voices.
01:01:16.000Now you have this extraordinary climate where people say oh actually I think vaccines are a good thing on the whole for society and I am a scientist and I'm dedicated to pharmacology and this is the world I live in.
01:01:24.000However there may be a corollary between these medications and these odd disgusting white blood clot things.
01:01:29.000There's this odd veil of secrecy and inability to openly discuss it.
01:01:34.000Which is the sort of thing that often surrounds, if I may say, corporate crime outside of this context.
01:01:38.000So, you can't claim that we're all supposed to be following the science, and then when scientists happen to be dissenting, well, you're not the sort of scientist, then what's the argument now?
01:02:09.000That's what power does, to ensure its power is not challenged.
01:02:12.000So I think that the discipline of science was exploited during this period, and that's why you can't have clear, open conversations around these subjects.
01:02:18.000I suppose that when it comes to medical matters, even in the event of it being a contagious condition, it has to remain a matter of personal responsibility.
01:02:25.000Because otherwise, when you have compelled medications, you're making some extraordinary claims about society.
01:02:29.000You can't all of a sudden, not now, not in this climate, say, we all have to take these vaccines because we're all in it together.
01:02:35.000Well, um, economic inequality, constant war, Gaza, the Ukraine, I mean, it just doesn't make sense in this context.
01:02:43.000So I suppose, yeah, the idea now that something sort of disgusting and visually evocative, like white rubbery sinew appearing in arteries and the conversation about it being somewhat censored, dampered down, controlled, not fully illuminated and explored, is a further indication that indeed we are living in unusual times where a real reckoning and appraisal of what the role of public health is, what the role of vaccines are, and what our individual freedom ought look like.
01:03:10.000As society navigates these turbulent waters, the importance of critical thinking, open dialogue and reliance on credible sources of information becomes ever more apparent.
01:03:18.000The quest for truth in this case is not just about white clots or vaccines, it's about how we as a collective address fear, uncertainty and the hunger for answers in an age of information overload.
01:03:27.000The resolution to the debate over white clots May just be a piece of a much larger puzzle in understanding and combating the COVID-19 pandemic.
01:03:49.000Yeah, well, we think it's growing, right?
01:03:51.000So at some point it's smaller, right, and blood's still able to flow around, but then at some point it completely blocks off a vessel, or your embolism breaks off and goes to a critical juncture, and that's when you get your stroke or heart attack.
01:04:03.000So, you know, it may be a process where it takes maybe 6 months, maybe 12 or 18 months for these to grow to the size that they become dangerous to a living person.
01:04:18.000I like old Dr. John Campbell style, because when he said, oh, they could be growing for some months, because Dr. John Campbell has to be careful of YouTube restrictions.
01:04:25.000So when he does things like, oh, really, what he means is, so what time were the vaccines administered?
01:04:31.000We're not sure, but the data that I've collected seems to indicate that's a possibility.
01:04:36.000Because some of the embalmers didn't start seeing the white fibrous cloths until the middle of 2021.
01:04:45.000After a certain event happened earlier that year.
01:04:48.000Look at everyone in the wonderful world of euphemism tiptoeing their way around guidelines that exist actually precisely to stop this conversation happening.
01:05:02.000There was a lot of people getting the Wuhan version of the SARS coronavirus 2 and then into the Alpha.
01:05:12.000Were, and that's before the vaccine rollout of course, when this disease was presumably rampant, because there was no vaccination, were you getting any reports of these white things, whatever we call them, happening in 2020?
01:05:33.000I did indeed, John, to a lesser extent.
01:05:35.000In our first survey, 44 of the embalmers, we got 179 responses from embalmers in our first survey that we did last year, and 44 of those embalmers did see the white fibrous clots And that makes sense because like I said there's a spike protein on the surface of the virus itself and we believe that spike protein on the virus on the virus itself can lead to the formation of these amyloid proteins.
01:06:00.000That's interesting because obviously what a lot of people say no it's coronavirus that's causing these clots so it's not the fault of vaccines and therefore science but then you might think for a few seconds longer about the origins of of coronavirus and why it's got that spike protein and you will be forced to conclude that it emerged from the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they were doing dual purpose research and you're back to the same culprits.
01:06:24.000But then the embalmers saw that explode in 2021 when we had the advent of the rollout of the medical intervention.
01:06:34.000So many more embalmers saw the phenomenon in 2021.
01:06:39.000As we know, there's a rationale for that, right?
01:06:41.000Because the medical intervention was supposed to stay in your deltoid muscle.
01:06:47.000And produce just enough of the spike protein to elicit an immune response, and do that for just a couple of days or a week, and then it's job is done.
01:06:55.000It's got you ready for COVID when it came.
01:06:57.000But we know now that that's not what happened at all.
01:07:01.000The medical intervention goes all over your body, turning your whole body into a spike protein factory, and it can do that for months at a time.
01:07:08.000So the scientists that I've talked to, John, believe that it's exacerbated or supercharged the effect of the formation of these white fibrous clots.
01:07:15.000I just have to take a breath, Tom, to pause so I don't get cross.
01:07:19.000You know, we were told exactly what you said.
01:07:32.000And we're just starting to learn some of the consequences of that.
01:07:38.000Misinformation, lie, propaganda, or whatever you want to call it.
01:07:44.000We'll stick with, we'll just stick with it.
01:07:48.000So 2021-2022, did the amount that we're seeing remain constant 2021-2022-2023?
01:07:53.000We just checked this year, the percentage of corpses that contain the white fibrous clots went down from an average of about 30% down to 20%.
01:08:20.000And you'll note that the response to excess deaths has been to change the way that deaths are recorded.
01:08:26.000And I feel like it's difficult not to correlate this information and conclude that something unusual is happening.
01:08:34.000Even when you see Dr. John Campbell sort of rather articulately describe the disparity between what we were initially told the vaccines...
01:08:42.000You know, they won't even call them that anymore.
01:08:44.000Medications, whatever you want to call them, were supposed to do remain on site and elicit a small manufacture or response of the creation of spike proteins but actually no, they distribute throughout the whole body.
01:08:55.000You know, it all sort of starts to make sense because you've heard it all now and all of us that don't have the kind of medical understanding that Dr. John does and his partner in this video are beginning to understand through this sort of couple of years of education that really you can't Trust what you were told in the first place and you have to be very aware about what you put into your body and the motives of the people that might want to put it there.
01:09:15.000Like I'm showing here but in 2023 that went down to 20% and that's not necessarily a vindication of the medical intervention because if you remember here in America about 80% of adults over the age of 18 had at least the first two medical interventions way back in 2021.
01:09:34.000But only about 20% of Americans took the BA-4, BA-5 bivalent Opron booster in the fall of 2022, and even less Americans, about 15%, John, took the XBB-1.5 booster that came out last fall of 2023.
01:09:51.000So as you get further and further away from the medical interventions, you might expect to see less of these white fibrous clots, which is indeed what Embalmers said in 2023.
01:10:00.000All of these inquiries that are taking place, like, can you imagine?
01:10:03.000In a sensible world, that would be included in the inquiry, wouldn't it?
01:10:06.000I remember the first time I heard, embalmers are finding weird stuff.
01:10:21.000...datasets of, during this period there was a huge wave and then it subsided during this period.
01:10:26.000And avoiding the conclusions that appear to suggest themselves feels like a level of obedience that I just can't personally live with anymore.
01:10:35.000Basically I think we've identified a temporal correlation and a quantitative temporal correlation.
01:10:43.000Well, you know, we can't necessarily say... Correlation's not necessarily causation, John.
01:10:48.000People say that a lot lately, don't they?
01:10:49.000Because it's become a convenient phrase.
01:11:07.000Causation isn't correlation but he's seen quite a lot of correlation.
01:11:10.000I don't know what's causing it but could it be causation?
01:11:14.000It's an extraordinary time we're living in and these hideous, ghouling, gruesome, gory, white blood clot things seem to be a kind of remnant emblem, a souvenir of a rather disgusting time that we've all lived through.
01:11:28.000An inconvenient piece of detritus that will have to be addressed at some point probably by us and responsible Physicians like those we've just seen communicating because it's unlikely to crop up in the COVID inquiry in our country, the various inquiries in your country and throughout the world.
01:11:44.000It'll be one of those things that's just parceled off into indefinite delay, which is what's happening in the COVID inquiry in our country, specifically with reference to vaccines.
01:11:53.000And I wonder why that might be in an election year, perhaps so that the globalist agenda can continue.
01:11:59.000But that actually isn't based on scientific data.
01:12:01.000That's based on what I call common sense.
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