Stay Free - Russel Brand - Jeffrey Sachs (Mutiny in Russia)

When I was growing up, billionaires weren't having a fight. They were like... They weren't like billionaires having a cage fight, they were like billionaires in hot air balloons. Or the Branson vs Gates fight. Or Elon Musk v Bill Gates. Or is there a coup going on at the top of the food chain? Or is it a coup? And why is it convenient to talk about it on the internet? Join us on Rumble this week as we discuss it all, plus the latest on The Submersive Titan and the disappearance of Chris Witte, and why he's not allowed to take money from pharmaceutical companies. Plus a new movement is on the rise, and it's going to change the way we think about freedom and freedom of speech. Join us in RUMBLE, and join the movement. We're part of Locals, a community of likeminded likeminded people, and we have some exciting news coming for that community, so join us in Locals and become a part of the community! Join the movement, and become part of our community. Don't forget to subscribe to our channel, and spread the word to your friends about what we're talking about! If you're watching this on YouTube, press the red button and let us know what you think about it! and what you would like to see us talk about on the next episode of Rumble! We'll be back next week with a new episode of the show! . Subscribe to our new show, The Dark Side of the Internet, where we'll be talking about the dark side of the internet, the dark web, the Dark Side Of. and much more! ! - Gareth R.R. - R. Roy and the people who make it better than the rest of us, right here at The Daily Mail, and much, much more. R. I hope you like it! -RUMBLE -R. Royce Thank you for listening and supporting us! -Podcasts? -Gareth, R.A. (and thanks for supporting us, please leave us a review and review us on your thoughts and your support and your thoughts on the podcast, please like us on Insta little bit more than that! - Thank you, please spread the love and support us around the world! -P.E. -ROBBIRTHDAY! -MRK.

00:00:00.000 If you weren't an awakening wonder, you wouldn't even be here.

00:00:03.000 Hello!

00:00:03.000 Welcome to another week of news and information.

00:00:07.000 And when I say news, is it me on scene assistant Gareth Roy?

00:00:11.000 Or has the world gone all unusual?

00:00:13.000 It has.

00:00:14.000 When I was growing up, billionaires weren't having cage fights.

00:00:17.000 That wasn't what it was.

00:00:18.000 They weren't like billionaires having a cage fight.

00:00:20.000 They were like...

00:00:23.000 Or in balloons, hot air balloons.

00:00:25.000 The most extravagant one we had, had a very neatly trimmed beard and would go up in a balloon.

00:00:31.000 That's it, he's not like, I'll have you, other billionaires, I'll do you, see you mate, I'll nudge ya, I'll have ya.

00:00:36.000 Or the Branson vs Gates, now that would be a fight.

00:00:39.000 Branson v Gates, it's a grudge match!

00:00:41.000 Let's get them wrinkly old knuckles bare and bashing at one another. 1.00

00:00:46.000 So yeah, of course, Zuckerberg and Elon Musk are going to have a cage fight.

00:00:50.000 That's unusual.

00:00:51.000 We're going to be talking about the Submersive Titan.

00:00:55.000 That's what it's known as, isn't it?

00:00:57.000 The Submersive Titan.

00:00:59.000 And I will be offering you Jungian analysis about how it's an attempt to revive a relic at the bottom of the ocean.

00:01:07.000 Deep within ourselves, there is information.

00:01:09.000 There is a story that we want more from.

00:01:11.000 Also, it's a story of inequality because you wouldn't be getting in a submarine

00:01:15.000 unless you could afford to.

00:01:16.000 It's extraordinary, this age of exploration.

00:01:18.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments if you feel grief for those lost

00:01:24.000 or if you think it's a distraction from the hunter stuff.

00:01:27.000 I'm interested in you.

00:01:28.000 If you're watching this on Rumble right now, press the red button.

00:01:31.000 Do yourself a favour.

00:01:32.000 Join us in Locals.

00:01:33.000 It's part of a community.

00:01:35.000 We've got some exciting news coming for that community.

00:01:37.000 I can hardly wait to tell you.

00:01:38.000 We're going to start a whole new movement.

00:01:39.000 I'm not going to use the word cult because a lot of people don't like that.

00:01:42.000 In fact, it is a pejorative term for sure.

00:01:44.000 But we're starting a new movement, and it's going to be really, really exciting.

00:01:47.000 Guess who's coming on?

00:01:48.000 Jeffrey Sachs.

00:01:49.000 Jeffrey Sachs is coming on the show.

00:01:51.000 If you don't know who Jeffrey Sachs is, he's one of the first people that explained that the war between Ukraine and Russia had been, if not caused, certainly agitated by NATO infringement of former Soviet Union territories.

00:02:04.000 He explained it.

00:02:05.000 He's a brilliant, brilliant thinker, a great teacher.

00:02:08.000 He's one of those people that it's really hard for the establishment to discredit, because when you listen to him, you think, Perfectly reasonable person.

00:02:15.000 It's like journalists like Taibi and Schellenberger that I did that free speech event with last week, which was, gratefully, I acknowledge, was attended by Stella Assange.

00:02:24.000 You realise that there are so many credible people now that are unwilling to put up with this elite establishment corruption that it can't be that everyone's suddenly turned into some mad right-wing conspiracy theorist.

00:02:36.000 It can't be that.

00:02:37.000 But if you're watching us on YouTube, Join us on Rumble and you will learn there for yourself that free speech is not the free speech to hate one another.

00:02:44.000 That's not why we want free speech.

00:02:46.000 We want free speech to attack the establishment and we will have to stop broadcasting on YouTube or Twitter or Twitch or Gut Bucket or Tickle Pickle or all of the main sites, all of them.

00:02:57.000 We'll have to stop broadcasting on them because in a minute we're going to be talking about Chris Witte.

00:03:01.000 He's our version of Fauci, although he's not allowed to accept money from pharmaceutical companies.

00:03:05.000 Not that I'm suggesting that.

00:03:06.000 Royalties, Russ.

00:03:08.000 Royalties!

00:03:09.000 That was a royalty!

00:03:10.000 That's the best thing, isn't it?

00:03:13.000 You can't criticise a royalty.

00:03:15.000 How dare you?

00:03:16.000 That's my royalty!

00:03:19.000 Chris Wee, he's like, he organised our Covid response and he said that he was pressured.

00:03:26.000 I mean, I've got to be careful how I say this, but he was the scientist determining the response.

00:03:31.000 And he said he would not have called.

00:03:33.000 Kind of.

00:03:34.000 He said scientists would not have called for lockdown.

00:03:37.000 Scientists, he said, like Einstein, all of those guys would not have called for a lockdown.

00:03:44.000 It's going to be interesting.

00:03:45.000 We can't even talk about it on YouTube, that's the truth, because of the WHO money, because of Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

00:03:50.000 That's why we can't talk about it.

00:03:52.000 But first, if you thought billionaires couldn't be, and we'll be talking about that coup as well a bit.

00:03:56.000 That coup.

00:03:57.000 Is it a coup or is it a distraction?

00:03:59.000 Join us over on Rumble.

00:04:00.000 Do you think this is a convenient coup?

00:04:02.000 Do you think this coup, and apparently they've been talking to me, what's his name again?

00:04:05.000 Progozhin.

00:04:06.000 Progozhin.

00:04:07.000 All Progozhin. 1.00

00:04:07.000 Progozhin's a mercenary killer, I tell you. 1.00

00:04:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:10.000 He's a mercenary. 1.00

00:04:11.000 Have you seen his face? 0.69

00:04:12.000 He's a warlord.

00:04:13.000 He's not like, oh, this guy, Progozhin's come along.

00:04:16.000 Everything's going to be OK.

00:04:17.000 He's not like a friendly dude.

00:04:19.000 He's not Nelson Mandela.

00:04:20.000 Is he?

00:04:20.000 No.

00:04:21.000 He's like a Russian warlord. 0.99

00:04:23.000 He's a bully boy. 0.99

00:04:24.000 Let's get behind him. 0.97

00:04:25.000 I like him!

00:04:27.000 Anyway, we're going to be telling you about that coup.

00:04:29.000 Do you reckon though, before I get into it, do you think this is a convenient distraction from the failing Ukrainian counter-offensive where a thousand Ukrainians a day are dying, which is a great stain again on this terrible, terrible ongoing conflict that many people believe.

00:04:45.000 And we'll be asking Jeffrey Sachs, who's an expert about this, is this war being perpetuated simply because it's advantageous to imperialist interests Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:04:54.000 term state imperatives of the United States military industrial complex, both politically

00:04:59.000 and economically. You tell me in the chat. I don't know. I'm just a sweet little guy.

00:05:04.000 Stay free with Russell Brand. See it first on Rumble.

00:05:07.000 What I believe in is the idea that there is a convergence of economic and political interests

00:05:13.000 that creates a kind of irresistible magnetism in a particular direction. Let me know what

00:05:18.000 you think, guys, because I know you've got some wonderful opinions. Listen, there's no

00:05:22.000 point listening to the pontifications of a gadfly and a dilettante when on the line now

00:05:29.000 we have got renowned economist and professor at Columbia University, a man whose facial

00:05:36.000 expressions are straight out of Kabuki.

00:05:39.000 It's Jeffrey Sachs.

00:05:41.000 Jeffrey, it's so lovely to see you.

00:05:43.000 Yes.

00:05:45.000 There you go.

00:05:47.000 Good to be with you, Russell.

00:05:48.000 It's lovely to hear you in that great echoing chamber.

00:05:52.000 Where are you?

00:05:53.000 You're in a pyramid.

00:05:55.000 I'm in the Vatican, so you're hearing the real echo.

00:06:00.000 You're really helping with those conspiracy theories.

00:06:03.000 Live from the Vatican, it's the Da Vinci Code with Jeffrey Sachs.

00:06:08.000 But Russell, I have to tell you, before we get to Purgosian, you know, the other thing to think about with the pandemic is there is really serious, legitimate reason to think this came out of a lab funded by the U.S.

00:06:24.000 government with China.

00:06:27.000 That's no joke.

00:06:29.000 That's actually completely substantive.

00:06:32.000 And that's what I would like to know.

00:06:34.000 And that's what they're not telling us at all about.

00:06:38.000 And they know a lot more about that than they have told us, and I know a lot about it enough to know how much they've lied.

00:06:46.000 So that's pretty interesting also, because we spent the last three years in an epidemic that may well have been caused by deliberate manipulation of a SARS-like virus on NIH contracts, so it's pretty annoying.

00:07:04.000 Yeah, that is annoying, Geoffrey.

00:07:05.000 That's one way of describing it.

00:07:06.000 Certainly a lot of people in our chat over on Locals, press the red button if you want to join us there now, completely agree with your analysis, which I know is an analysis arrived at over a long period of time.

00:07:19.000 Just quickly, Geoffrey, before we move on to Purgosian and whether or not this is a false flag event, this brief coup over in Russia in order to distract people from the Ukrainian counter-offensive and its potential failure, can we just determine that If it is established that this was a lab leak that was brought about due to a lack of due diligence and perhaps because of irresponsible gain-of-function research that involved American financial interests, how does that change our response to the events of the last three years?

00:07:52.000 What specifically does it mean we should be pursuing that would be impossible if a natural origin theory were accepted?

00:07:59.000 Well, the starting point is that it would mean we have a U.S.

00:08:02.000 government that is absolutely reckless, out of control, lying at every turn, and dangerous to the world.

00:08:09.000 So that would be my starting point.

00:08:11.000 I think that is a plausible case.

00:08:13.000 It's not proven, but it's plausible.

00:08:16.000 And if it happened, we sure better know, because the U.S.

00:08:20.000 is continuing to do lots of research Probably all over the world, of a very dangerous kind, and it would be nice if someone would tell the truth and someone would look at some actual documents and facts.

00:08:37.000 Just a couple days ago, the intelligence agencies released another report.

00:08:42.000 It's a joke.

00:08:44.000 They released no data.

00:08:46.000 They released no background.

00:08:47.000 They ...gave us a few paragraphs. 0.98

00:08:50.000 It's bull, and it's disgusting, after all this time. 0.98

00:08:54.000 Given all the lies that they have said, it's absolutely disgusting. 0.91

00:08:59.000 So, I really would like to know, because if the U.S.

00:09:04.000 recklessly not only endangered the world, but led to a virus that killed 20 million people, And has lied about it, denied it, and most likely is continuing this kind of research.

00:09:20.000 I sure would like to know.

00:09:21.000 Well, Jeffrey, if your line of inquiry is correct, then you should be canonized yourself.

00:09:27.000 But if it's incorrect, I think you should go straight to a confessional and get yourself cleansed, perhaps by the Holy Father himself, given that you're live from the Vatican.

00:09:35.000 Now, thank you for giving us such conclusive and explosive analysis on the events of the last three years and the implications of it being indeed a lab leak origin scenario.

00:09:46.000 Can you tell us how we, sorry Jeffrey, we've got your mic muted while you're hollering in the Vatican.

00:09:53.000 Would you tell us about how we should understand the recent news of the failed mutiny of Prigoshin over there in Russia and how it's being reported on by the mainstream media?

00:10:06.000 Is this a self-contained issue and do you think this is a false flag event to distract us from the failing Ukrainian counter-offensive?

00:10:13.000 How does this sit into the whole Russia-Ukraine narrative, sir?

00:10:17.000 Look, I think the one thing we know is how it's being used by the U.S.

00:10:22.000 and the U.K., and it's being used to prolong and expand the war.

00:10:29.000 Because we have a war machine in the United States.

00:10:33.000 I don't really know which generals are running the show right now.

00:10:37.000 I don't think it's Biden.

00:10:38.000 But we have a war machine that wants an expanded war with Russia.

00:10:43.000 So, whatever is the actual story here—and we don't know about multiple possible outcomes—what the media are reporting is no questions, other than saying, you see, Putin is at the end, and now we

00:11:00.000 can—basically, the implication is just we continue and we destroy Russia. So, you see it in 0.68

00:11:08.000 every mainstream newspaper in the U.K.

00:11:12.000 and the U.S. now.

00:11:13.000 Not a question asked.

00:11:15.000 No puzzlement.

00:11:17.000 No puzzlement over the fact that the CIA says, oh, we knew for weeks.

00:11:20.000 Well, it raises a lot of questions, doesn't it?

00:11:22.000 Nobody asks questions anymore.

00:11:24.000 We have a narrative.

00:11:26.000 The narrative comes from the U.S. intelligence community.

00:11:30.000 It comes from the U.S. military.

00:11:33.000 It gets adopted in The New York Times, The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, in the

00:11:38.000 U.K., every paper, whether it's—I'm just looking at The Financial Times—reckless

00:11:44.000 as usual.

00:11:45.000 Gideon Rockman, the Putin system is crumbling.

00:11:49.000 Does he know?

00:11:50.000 Chris Donnelly, the president's hand has been fatally weakened.

00:11:54.000 How the hell do they know?

00:11:56.000 They don't know.

00:11:56.000 They don't ask anything.

00:11:58.000 But this is a storyline.

00:12:00.000 Why this storyline?

00:12:02.000 Because we have pushed into an incredibly disastrous war, first and foremost disastrous for Ukraine, because the Ukrainians that are dying, We provoked the war. 0.98

00:12:16.000 We refused to negotiate over the core issues, mainly NATO enlargement.

00:12:22.000 And we have a media that is so driven for more war and utterly without the idea of asking a single question, just like the questions you're asking.

00:12:35.000 They're not even raised in our newspapers.

00:12:38.000 But this has been like this all along.

00:12:41.000 They want more war.

00:12:42.000 That's all.

00:12:43.000 So, whether this is a godsend, that now we can say we should have more war because we're about to defeat Russia, whether this is actually—CIA played a role in this?

00:12:55.000 Not impossible.

00:12:56.000 Anything's possible, given that they say, we knew for weeks.

00:12:59.000 Well, how the hell did they know?

00:13:00.000 Somebody should actually explain some of these things.

00:13:04.000 Whatever it is, what they want is war.

00:13:07.000 The point you make, by the way, is an extremely important one, which is the so-called Ukrainian counteroffensive is killing thousands and thousands of Ukrainian young men who have been pulled off the streets, put in front of Russian helicopter gunships put in front of Russian artillery are dying by the hundreds or thousands per day, but we don't count any of that.

00:13:37.000 We don't care at all.

00:13:39.000 The whole thing is a U.S. 0.95

00:13:41.000 effort to overthrow the Russian government, which is, I think, is fanciful Reckless, endangering the world. 0.91

00:13:52.000 But that's how our generals have thought for a long time, how our CIA has thought for a long time.

00:13:57.000 That's what they'd like to do.

00:13:59.000 The Ukrainians are in the meat grinder, as they say, and they are dying massively.

00:14:06.000 No one counts that.

00:14:07.000 No one cares.

00:14:09.000 It's just a big, big success story.

00:14:11.000 That's how our media is reporting it.

00:14:14.000 And it's unbelievable.

00:14:16.000 You can't get A single thought, a single idea in the New York Times anymore that says, hmm, maybe what the government's telling us isn't exactly 100,000% the truth.

00:14:27.000 They don't ask anymore.

00:14:28.000 the truth. They don't ask anymore. Nothing. Not a word.

00:14:28.000 Nothing.

00:14:33.000 So, I'm not a happy guy today on our media question because today it's just exactly what

00:14:44.000 More war, more war, more war.

00:14:46.000 That's all they want.

00:14:47.000 And in the U.S., there's not, by the way, not a word of opposition except Bobby Kennedy Jr.

00:14:55.000 Thanks God for him.

00:14:56.000 Because he's the only politician talking about a different way.

00:15:01.000 Negotiating.

00:15:02.000 Like his uncle did.

00:15:04.000 Like his father led.

00:15:06.000 And that's the real point, actually.

00:15:10.000 Yes, I think, Geoffrey, after we finish our conversation you should have a look at the dome of St Peter's.

00:15:16.000 I think you want to have a little glance at the Sistine Chapel ceiling and take in a couple of Caravaggios to unwind because it seems like you need it.

00:15:24.000 Now we live in a bewildering and beguiling media space.

00:15:27.000 We live in a landscape where we're Offered cage fights between prominent billionaires like Zuckerberg and Elon Musk.

00:15:34.000 A sense of mad, demented carnival descends.

00:15:38.000 As you say, legitimate legacy media spaces seem incapable or unwilling to ask the pertinent and necessary questions when we find ourselves on the advent of a potential crisis of previously unseen proportions.

00:15:55.000 An ambition to carve up Russia is a bold one indeed. 0.91

00:16:00.000 To embark on a secondary campaign agitating for war with China seems outrageous.

00:16:07.000 To have a political sphere devoid and divorced from debate, open conversation, where reasonable, rational figures like RFK that offer anti-establishment perspectives and diplomatic solutions ...are regarded by the mainstream as hysterical pariahs who cannot be engaged with, with the liminal space in which discourse can take place ever shrinking.

00:16:34.000 These people are too far to the right.

00:16:35.000 These people are conspiracy theories.

00:16:37.000 The role of independent media is clear, that it's necessary and important that we ask these questions, that we have to behave responsibly, that we have to have one eye on what's beyond simply reporting and move towards Activism and campaigning and participating in this conversation in perhaps more political ways.

00:16:58.000 When you see us move from a state of crisis around the pandemic, around which it seems that we were lied to extensively, into a geopolitical crisis like the current one, where we are continuing to be lied, where it seems evident and obvious that behind these events are sets of interests that can be observed, diagnosed and tracked.

00:17:19.000 At what point does this begin to coalesce around a political movement?

00:17:23.000 And do you feel that, given that the systems we live within, electoral, political, financial, delivered us into this state, how likely is it, even with the candidacy of a figure like RFK, who's joined us here on Rumble, both as a guest and now as a contributor, how likely is it that this system will allow him to make a reasonable impact?

00:17:46.000 How hopeful are you, Geoffrey?

00:17:49.000 Look, you know, what's interesting is we don't have discourse anymore in the mainstream.

00:17:54.000 We just have a narrative.

00:17:55.000 We have a line. 0.99

00:17:57.000 The line, because I know a lot, I've been in the inside, the line's bullshit most of the time these days. 0.99

00:18:04.000 Makes no sense. 0.99

00:18:05.000 Doesn't tell the truth.

00:18:07.000 Tries to create amnesiacs of all of us.

00:18:10.000 You're not allowed to talk about history.

00:18:12.000 You're not allowed to talk about an event the day before yesterday.

00:18:15.000 You're not allowed to ask questions.

00:18:17.000 But what's interesting, Russell, to me, nobody believes that hibis. 1.00

00:18:21.000 So if you ask, do you believe what we're being told, no one believes it.

00:18:25.000 No one believes, you know, the vast majority of Americans.

00:18:29.000 ...believe that the virus came out of a lab.

00:18:31.000 Well, damn well they should, but they've been told exactly the opposite by all of the government officials.

00:18:37.000 No one believes what the government says.

00:18:40.000 And so, what does the narrative do?

00:18:44.000 What the narrative does is allow the truth to just be ignored.

00:18:51.000 Rather than confronted.

00:18:52.000 So the idea of the narrative is not to make people believe.

00:18:55.000 The idea of the narrative is to have something to say, so that you don't actually have to talk about real things. 0.98

00:19:03.000 So we're living morning till night with political bullshit. 0.97

00:19:07.000 We're not talking about anything real. 1.00

00:19:10.000 Where did this war come from?

00:19:12.000 I'll give another example.

00:19:13.000 You know, pretty obvious.

00:19:15.000 Two examples, very quickly.

00:19:18.000 In December 2021, Putin put on the table a draft agreement, security agreement, U.S.-Russia draft security agreement.

00:19:30.000 We could have negotiated with no war.

00:19:32.000 I called the White House.

00:19:34.000 They said, no, non-negotiable NATO enlargement.

00:19:37.000 I had that call for an hour.

00:19:39.000 Never discussed in our media the fact that there was a draft agreement put on the table.

00:19:44.000 Then, in March 2022, we know it now because of an interesting point.

00:19:51.000 There was nearly a signed agreement between Russia and Ukraine to end the war, and the United States stopped it.

00:20:01.000 And Naftali Bennett, who was prime minister of Israel and an informal mediator then, You know, he has a long interview where he describes at the last moment the United States came in and stopped it.

00:20:12.000 And why did they stop it?

00:20:14.000 Bennett says because they wanted to look tough to China.

00:20:17.000 It wasn't even about Ukraine.

00:20:18.000 It was about that it would look soft to China.

00:20:21.000 Okay, but my point is something else.

00:20:24.000 Nobody in the mainstream media has raised the point that That there was nearly a negotiated end to the war in March 2022 that the United States stopped.

00:20:36.000 It's too little a fact for The New York Times to show any interest.

00:20:41.000 It has nothing to do with what The Washington Post might report or anybody else, so it's not mentioned At all. 0.99

00:20:48.000 And if you mention it, you're crazy. 0.61

00:20:51.000 You know, you can't negotiate with that guy.

00:20:53.000 But he did negotiate. 0.99

00:20:55.000 No, you're crazy. 0.99

00:20:56.000 You can't negotiate with that guy. 0.99

00:20:58.000 It's whatever they want to say. 0.83

00:21:01.000 Not to make us believe it because what they say is so damn preposterous.

00:21:06.000 Six people in a sailboat blew up the pipeline.

00:21:09.000 They say whatever they want so that they don't have to say Something real.

00:21:15.000 They don't have to show us a document.

00:21:17.000 Remember, everything's secret.

00:21:18.000 Everything's confidential.

00:21:20.000 Nothing is for public anymore.

00:21:22.000 So we have—it's not even right to call it a narrow discourse.

00:21:26.000 There's no discourse, because I think this discourse means that it's a two-way line.

00:21:32.000 Maybe I'm wrong about that.

00:21:33.000 There's no discussion.

00:21:36.000 There is a narrative.

00:21:38.000 And for some reason, all of the papers I grew up with went dead.

00:21:43.000 They're unreadable.

00:21:46.000 Every day I want to cancel my New York Times subscription, but if I could cancel a hundred of them, I would. 1.00

00:21:53.000 It's just so painful to see the stupidity of it right now. 0.98

00:21:59.000 It's exciting to be able to speak to somebody with you with such evident integrity. 0.98

00:22:02.000 It was exciting to spend time recently with Michael Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi at an event designed to address the emergence of the censorship industrial complex and the need to confront it and organize a movement around it.

00:22:16.000 I'm always astonished when I speak to Michael and Matt, that journalists that, you know,

00:22:20.000 literally in the case of Matt, did work for the Rolling Stone

00:22:23.000 and certainly a few years ago, these would have been the kind of legacy media journalists

00:22:27.000 that were prized in the sort of Woodward-Bernstein tradition.

00:22:31.000 Investigative journalists that care about facts that are voracious, that offer you information

00:22:36.000 and allow you to reach your own conclusions, that see it as their job to interrogate power.

00:22:40.000 And now are both pariahs.

00:22:41.000 You can make the same point about Chris Hedges, you can make the same point about Glenn Greenwald,

00:22:45.000 that journalists with integrity are a problem now that have to be smeared, extracted and destroyed.

00:22:51.000 And only journalists that, as you say, convey unequivocal propaganda without inquiry

00:22:58.000 are safe to be housed within mainstream media outlets.

00:23:01.000 When it comes to the matter of the war, it's plain that they only platform pundits,

00:23:08.000 not only, but frequently platform pundits with ties to the military-industrial complex.

00:23:12.000 In the case, for example, of CNN, they are ultimately owned by Comcast

00:23:17.000 that have interests in weapons manufacture through General Electric.

00:23:22.000 And even when it's not so palpably true, There is the kind of compliance that comes when interests converge at such magnitude.

00:23:31.000 That's why I'm always grateful to hear from you, Geoffrey, and to bask in the rigour of your intellect.

00:23:38.000 So thank you once again.

00:23:39.000 And Geoffrey, what the hell are you doing in the Vatican?

00:23:42.000 I better stare at the ceiling.

00:23:44.000 I think that was good advice.

00:23:45.000 I'm going to go do that.

00:23:46.000 Go stare at that ceiling, because otherwise, I don't know, we're going to get Dan Brown onto you.

00:23:51.000 Well, there he is, Jeffrey Sachs.

00:23:52.000 Thank you so much, Jeffrey.

00:23:53.000 Thanks for your fantastic contribution once again.

00:23:55.000 Great to be with you.

00:23:56.000 You can find out more about Geoffrey's extensive work and his books at geffsax.org.

00:24:01.000 That's J-E-F-F-S-A-C-H-S dot org. 0.98

00:24:05.000 That's where you'll find his fantastic work and you'll learn that you have legitimate, authentic voices that are anti-establishment and plainly undergirded with a great deal of knowledge and experience.

00:24:14.000 This is not Rumble, home of the crackpot and the nutcase, in spite of my physical appearance and sometimes even Gareth's baleful demeanour.

00:24:24.000 As he looks off into the middle distance.

00:24:26.000 You enjoy Geoffrey, don't you?

00:24:27.000 Yeah, he's wonderful, isn't he?

00:24:28.000 And you're absolutely right.

00:24:30.000 The complete opposite of a crackpot.

00:24:32.000 And I think the point there, and we spoke about it last week with regard to China, I think it was Jens or Jens Stoltenberg of NATO literally said last week, Uh, the Russia have to lose to send a message for us to send a message to China.

00:24:45.000 So this is not about Ukraine anymore.

00:24:46.000 I mean, it's so explicit, you know, like this counter offensive was meant to be the end game for Ukraine. 0.89

00:24:52.000 It hasn't turned out that way.

00:24:53.000 They can explicitly write these things in the mainstream media, but never seem to follow up and go, uh, but what does that mean?

00:25:00.000 Yeah, then why is that?

00:25:01.000 What is this total lack of inquiry?

00:25:03.000 A lot of people here loved Geoffrey.

00:25:06.000 MaxMatitis though, 444, what are your thoughts on the forthcoming Mel Gibson doggie series?

00:25:11.000 Yeah, we're going to have to educate ourselves on that.

00:25:13.000 Rumoured.

00:25:14.000 Rumoured, I think.

00:25:14.000 Rumoured.

00:25:15.000 I look like Randy the Macho Man Savage, says someone on there.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, I do look like Randy, the macho man, and also those two words, or terms at least, describe me perfectly.

00:25:25.000 I'm both Randy and a macho man.

00:25:28.000 I think that we should show our deep presentation on Obama's tax loophole, that's not a euphemism, elsewhere.

00:25:34.000 I think that we should do, we should appear, do you want to join us on locals for a bit longer?

00:25:39.000 Do you know what?

00:25:40.000 We're going to do a bit extra.

00:25:40.000 Do you know what?

00:25:41.000 We're going to do some freedom of speech over on local.

00:25:44.000 So you guys that have already clicked that red button on the bottom, we're going to do 15 minutes extra just for you because we love you.

00:25:49.000 We'll put our presentation up on Obama's tax loophole.

00:25:52.000 He is taking advantage of a tax law that during office he claimed that he was trying to get rid of.

00:25:59.000 That's basically the truth, isn't it?

00:26:00.000 We're going to put that presentation up for you later, but we're going to go now and do locals with our item free speech.

00:26:00.000 That's exactly it.

00:26:07.000 But God, have we got some fantastic things coming up for you over the course of the week.

00:26:10.000 Why?

00:26:10.000 For example, so hey, later on in the week, we've got Jack Dorsey.

00:26:15.000 He's coming on the show.

00:26:16.000 Imagine that, Jack Dorsey.

00:26:17.000 What are we going to ask him about?

00:26:19.000 Join us over on locals.

00:26:19.000 Tell us, will you?

00:26:21.000 Tell us what to ask Jack Dorsey.

00:26:22.000 Aaron Maté is coming on.

00:26:24.000 You can get some home truths about the war from him.

00:26:26.000 We will be naked fighting Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg in a paddling pool full of jam.

00:26:33.000 That's a little bit later, that's on Tuesday.

00:26:36.000 So listen, if you're watching this now on Rumble, click that red button!

00:26:40.000 Join us on Locals.

00:26:41.000 We're going to do another 15 minutes where we do freedom of speech.

00:26:44.000 We're going to spend 15 minutes answering your questions and your inquiries.

00:26:47.000 And if that's not the truth, my name's not Randy the Macho Man Savage.

00:26:51.000 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:26:53.000 Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

00:26:55.000 Until then, stay free.

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - June 26, 2023

Jeffrey Sachs (Mutiny in Russia)

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