Stay Free - Russel Brand - October 23, 2023


Jon Stewart CANCELLED - Apple CENSORS Host On China & AI - Stay Free #229


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 20 minutes

Words per Minute

175.9884

Word Count

14,170

Sentence Count

691

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

In this episode of the Awakened Wonders chat, Russell Brand is joined by journalist Rav Arora to discuss why Dave Chappelle's right to free speech is a fundamental human right, and why it should not be curtailed by the state. They also discuss the ongoing theme of censorship, and how the government is trying to delegitimize freedom of speech, including the recent $5,000 fine against Trump for a "gag order" on the New York Times reporter who reported on the Trump administration's surveillance of journalists, and whether or not this is a good or bad thing. Russell also discusses the recent walkout by a heckler during a Dave Chapelle performance in Boston, and asks the question: Do you believe in Dave's right for free speech, or do you think he should be allowed to speak freely about his views on the matter? And what is the best way to deal with a world where the state controls every aspect of the internet, including free speech and access to information? in order to achieve its unipolar agenda, we must decentralize power wherever possible, and decentralize it through decentralization everywhere possible. We can't have one globalist state dominated by corporate interests, and one globalism is the ultimate agenda to form a single, unipolar state, which is what unipolarism is all about. We need decentralization wherever possible and decentralization is the key to unipolarity, not just in the world, but in order for us to be free of speech and information, and freedom, and the freedom of expression and expression, and so that we can be truly democratic and free of censorship and access, and accountability, and truly free of expression, we can all be free from censorship and accountability. , Russell Brand explains why we should decentralize our own free speech. Stay free, fellow awakened wonders! Stay woke! You're going to see the future, you're gonna see the world! - Russell Brand - and so much more. - . - in this video, you'll get a chance to join us on Rumble, join us in RUMBLE! ! RAVRAV ARORA , RAV RAV ARAORA, RASHIT, RAVARORA - RAVIREDAN, RAY AND RAVY, RABY AND RASHID, RACHURAH, RIVY CHANDORA.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 so so
00:02:07.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:02:17.000 We've got a live shot there.
00:02:25.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
00:02:26.000 Thanks for joining me on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:02:29.000 This is another opportunity for us to awaken together.
00:02:32.000 What a magnificent day it is.
00:02:34.000 And while the world may seem to be beset with Omnicrisis, we here now at least are free right now.
00:02:41.000 I'm watching you in the chat, Bad Poet, Ministry of Common Sense, Sephardine Squibb.
00:02:47.000 I'm watching you all, Dynamic Shifts, and you better believe I ain't no Fabian.
00:02:51.000 If you are even considering that I could be controlled opposition at this point after what I've been through, you lot are crazy.
00:02:57.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, be ready to click the link in the description and join us on Rumble after 15 minutes because we're going to be discussing some matters that simply cannot be discussed on a platform that accepts WHO guidelines when it comes to controlling what can be freely communicated.
00:03:13.000 That's why you've got to join us on Rumble like Godzilla the Hun.
00:03:16.000 Little Willie Gates.
00:03:17.000 That's right, he does invest heavenly.
00:03:19.000 Heavily.
00:03:20.000 If you want to join our locals community and become an Awakened Wonder, press the red button on your screen now.
00:03:25.000 It's a beautiful conversation there.
00:03:28.000 There are Awakened Wonders everywhere you look and you're going to need them because we're talking today about Biden's aid bundling.
00:03:35.000 When you've got complex conflicts across the globe, Is it prudent, wise, apposite and germane to combine them together into a cluster like it's one of those cluster bombs?
00:03:47.000 Or these various conflicts be looked at separately and discreetly?
00:03:52.000 Let me know what you think about that.
00:03:53.000 And also, Is there a risk when you bundle these conflicts together economically and financially that you potentially bundle them together in the minds of the electorate, in the minds of the population, that it's seen as one all-pervasive global conflict?
00:04:09.000 And is that beneficial to a potential unipolar agenda?
00:04:13.000 Is the ultimate agenda to form one globalist state dominated by corporate interests, Unable, unwilling to respond to the democratic people of the world.
00:04:26.000 We surely must decentralize power wherever possible.
00:04:29.000 We're going to be discussing that with Rav Arora, a brilliant young journalist who's worked with Jay Bhattacharya of the Barrington Declaration to oppose many of the anti-free speech regulation being passed right now in Trudeau and Freeland's Canadian dystopia.
00:04:45.000 If you're watching us in Canada, Welcome, guys!
00:04:48.000 Welcome!
00:04:49.000 Because, you know, it's not going to be for long, because they are regulating your ability to access independent media at an astonishing and extraordinary rate.
00:04:57.000 But you are welcome with us.
00:04:59.000 Hey, have you seen about Chappelle?
00:05:00.000 One of my comedy heroes, one of the greats, Dave Chappelle, has apparently inspired a walkout.
00:05:04.000 Let's have a look at that story.
00:05:07.000 Apparently, Dave Chappelle sparked a walkout during a show in Boston last week after slamming Israel for its war crimes against Palestinians.
00:05:13.000 The comedian made the comments after telling the audience he didn't think students who were protesting in support of Palestine should lose job offers.
00:05:20.000 A furious audience member shouted, shut up, according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:05:25.000 Do you Dear community, dear AwakendWonders, believe in Dave Chappelle's right for free speech.
00:05:32.000 Is that a yes or a no?
00:05:33.000 Can you just post Y or N in the rumble chat, guys?
00:05:36.000 And indeed in the AwakendWonder chat, just so I know where you stand on the free speech of Dave Chappelle.
00:05:43.000 Remember, here we believe that the people that are involved in this conflict are in such a unique, agonizing, painful situation that the rest of us, and I know that people will be directly Effective that are watching this right now have a kind of duty to be responsible in the way that we communicate But do I believe in Dave Chappelle's rights of free speech after everything that man's given us in the world of comedy?
00:06:03.000 I'd certainly have to agree that I do Now on this ongoing theme of censorship and legitimization of controlling speech Trump has been fined $5,000 for a social media post that violates his gag order I'm gonna ask you this Is a gag order ever a good thing?
00:06:22.000 Like, do you believe that Trump is being gagged to protect you, to protect justice, or to ultimately take him out of the candidacy for 2024?
00:06:32.000 Of course, one of the claims is that he could intimidate witnesses, but there's already laws to prevent witness intimidation.
00:06:38.000 So, as is often the case when surveillance laws and censorship laws are introduced, it doesn't provide you with additional legislative protection.
00:06:46.000 It just facilitates further state intervention.
00:06:51.000 Let's have a look at the mainstream reporting on this story.
00:06:54.000 The judge in Donald Trump's civil fraud trial in New York is fining the former president $5,000 for violating his order not to threaten anyone tied to the case.
00:07:03.000 And the judge warned future offenses could land Trump in jail.
00:07:07.000 The judge imposed the limited restrictions.
00:07:32.000 He's a truth teller, he's a man who asks questions, and ultimately, if you believe in free speech, you've got to believe in the free speech of those that you oppose.
00:07:40.000 That's a pretty basic, simple, I reckon, isn't it?
00:07:42.000 And what is going on with this weaponisation of the justice system?
00:07:47.000 Is it simply that there's an agenda to take Trump out of the race?
00:07:50.000 And I want to know as well, how do you feel about the The former legal aides of Trump now saying that they will testify against him as a result of their own guilty pleas.
00:08:00.000 Does this change your opinion about Donald Trump?
00:08:02.000 Or does this, to you, just seem like further evidence that the state are out to get him?
00:08:06.000 It was earlier this month when Trump posted a message about a court clerk on Truth Social.
00:08:11.000 Trump removed the post immediately, but Trump's campaign website appeared to still show the post as recently until last night.
00:08:19.000 A former president's lawyer says the post was an inadvertent mistake and blamed it on Trump's campaign operation.
00:08:27.000 Liz Cheney says, or said on CNN at least, that Donald Trump is the single biggest threat to the US.
00:08:36.000 Is he?
00:08:37.000 Is Trump the most, the biggest danger that the United States faces right now?
00:08:41.000 Just post a Y or an N in the rumble chat, let me know.
00:08:45.000 Or, you know, could there be another threat?
00:08:47.000 Could there be like an omni-crisis?
00:08:49.000 Could there be It seems an appetite for an endless global war.
00:08:53.000 What about Biden?
00:08:54.000 I mean, there seems that there are so many threats.
00:08:56.000 Let's have a look at Liz Cheney saying that.
00:09:01.000 If it came down to it, even though you disagree with Joe Biden on almost every issue under the sun, other than maybe Ukraine and Israel, would you vote for him over Donald Trump?
00:09:11.000 We're going to see what happens.
00:09:12.000 We're going to see how things unfold.
00:09:14.000 I think Donald Trump is the single most dangerous threat we face.
00:09:18.000 I don't know about that.
00:09:19.000 Is that true?
00:09:20.000 Could that possibly be true?
00:09:22.000 I'll tell you who was a threat to American sovereignty, who certainly did not approve the standing of the United States of America in the world, who did not improve peace in the Middle East, dear Liz's father, Dick Cheney, who similarly thinks that Donald Trump is the biggest threat to democracy.
00:09:40.000 But is it really that Trump is the biggest threat to In our nation's 246 year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic.
00:09:50.000 Dick Cheney looked like a man who is trying to hold back evil, even as he speaks.
00:09:55.000 You know, entire history of American democracy.
00:09:58.000 Can you almost see a reptilian flicker just... Oh, he's snarling!
00:10:03.000 He's got a snarling face on.
00:10:04.000 Are you looking at that right now?
00:10:06.000 Look at the curled lip.
00:10:07.000 It's sort of like J.R.
00:10:10.000 Ewing meets Godzilla.
00:10:12.000 And Donald Trump, he tried to steal the last election using lies and violence.
00:10:17.000 Do you know that, of course, Cheney is famous for propagating the weapons of mass destruction lie under Bush, which led to the Iraq war, which led to 1.2 million deaths, including 4,500 US service members.
00:10:24.000 sweet justice and Halliburton.
00:10:49.000 Let me know.
00:10:49.000 T for Donald Trump, C for Cheney.
00:10:53.000 He also cost US taxpayers $2 trillion with a couple of conflicts in that region around that time.
00:10:58.000 Cheney himself earned $44 million as CEO of Halliburton, $39.5 Billion in federal contracts were related to the Iraq war.
00:11:07.000 Let's see him snarl his way through this piece of advocacy.
00:11:10.000 This is not a person that should be on camera supporting anybody.
00:11:12.000 Keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him.
00:11:16.000 He's a coward.
00:11:17.000 A real man wouldn't lie to his supporters.
00:11:19.000 He lost his election and he lost big.
00:11:22.000 I know it, he knows it, and deep down I think most Republicans know it.
00:11:27.000 Liz, I'm going to read you a bedtime story tonight.
00:11:29.000 I'm going to want you to sleep peacefully.
00:11:31.000 Once upon a time, there was a guy called Rumpelstiltskin.
00:11:35.000 Please, please, can I just listen to an audio book?
00:11:38.000 Now listen, we're going to have to leave YouTube in a minute.
00:11:41.000 Not yet, in a minute.
00:11:42.000 Before we leave YouTube, I want to ask you this question.
00:11:45.000 Do you want us to cover a story about Pfizer's plans to massively overcharge for its COVID drug?
00:11:51.000 If you do, press one.
00:11:53.000 Or do you You crazy North American sons and daughters of glory want to see a story about British MP Andrew Bridgen giving a speech to a near-empty parliament about excess deaths.
00:12:05.000 So one for Pfizer, two for excess deaths.
00:12:09.000 And God, these are not concepts that, broadly speaking, I'm supportive of.
00:12:14.000 And I asked you a minute ago, who's the greater threat to world peace?
00:12:18.000 You came back resoundingly with Cheney all over that chat, baby.
00:12:23.000 And we're going to talk to you about Jon Stewart, and then we will let you know which of those two stories we're doing based on your votes, because this show belongs to you.
00:12:30.000 My voice belongs to you.
00:12:31.000 We are in communion with you.
00:12:33.000 This is independent media and independent media has a set of values derived from spirituality and democracy.
00:12:39.000 We have to find a new voice together.
00:12:41.000 We have to look for new alliances and new ways of constructing content that is valuable for you and valuable for our shared agenda to create better communities, better individual lives and Maybe even a better world, dammit.
00:12:53.000 One person who will not be contributing to that conversation is Jon Stewart, because it seems that Jon Stewart has been cancelled by Apple, potentially as a result of some of the content of his forthcoming show, where he planned to talk about, for example, many say, China and AI.
00:13:11.000 Why would Apple want to censor on those subjects?
00:13:15.000 Let's have a look at it on the mainstream.
00:13:17.000 John Stewart's Apple TV show, The Problem with John Stewart, is done after two seasons.
00:13:22.000 Staff members say Stewart told them last night he and Apple executives agreed to pull the plug.
00:13:26.000 The former Daily Show host had creative control over the show, but again, according to staff members, Stewart told them the company had concerns about the subject matter for the upcoming season.
00:13:37.000 The planned topics included China, Israel, and AI.
00:13:41.000 Over 95% of iPhones, AirPods, Macs and iPads are still made in China.
00:13:47.000 So if Jon Stewart, who is, wherever you stand politically, a critical thinker, an outspoken voice, an advocate for 9-11, first responders, one of the voices within the mainstream that was willing to attack, and now he's not going to have that same kind of platform certainly, Also, could Apple's agenda in censoring Jon Stewart, or at least cancelling his show, be connected to their huge sales of iPhones in China?
00:14:15.000 24% of their products are sold there.
00:14:17.000 That's compared to 21% in your country, the United States.
00:14:20.000 19% of Apple's total revenue came from China.
00:14:22.000 That amounts to about $74 billion, and it's a brief window into the world of real power now.
00:14:30.000 I wonder how Apple will be affected by escalating tensions between the United States and China.
00:14:35.000 I wonder where they will stand in that complex potential conflagration that's being advocated for somewhat irresponsibly even now.
00:14:43.000 Later this week I'm going to be speaking to Vivek Ramaswamy and talking to him about the potential for this current conflict, this set of conflicts, to become a global Conflagration.
00:14:56.000 A global war.
00:14:57.000 A World War Three.
00:14:58.000 Particularly when you see that the way that it's being financed, it includes conflating these conflicts which are, in my view, very discreet and distinct when it comes to their financing.
00:15:09.000 I want to ask you now though, when it comes to this matter of Jon Stewart being cancelled from Apple, do you think Jon Stewart's been fired because he's a danger to the establishment?
00:15:17.000 Or because he's a threat to Apple's business model.
00:15:20.000 What do you think motivates that?
00:15:21.000 If you think it's a threat to the establishment, press 1 for us.
00:15:24.000 And 2 if you think it's a threat to Apple's business model.
00:15:28.000 Now you've come back resoundingly in favour of something that surprises me about you people.
00:15:34.000 You awakened wonders.
00:15:36.000 You pursuers of glorious truth.
00:15:38.000 is you want to see Andrew Bridgen, a British MP, talking to Parliament about excess deaths.
00:15:46.000 You'll be familiar with it.
00:15:47.000 Now I can't talk about excess deaths on YouTube.
00:15:50.000 YouTube, as you know, takes its community guidelines with medical matters from the WHO.
00:15:55.000 You may be aware that the WHO are proposing a treaty Right now, that they would be able to take 5% of the health budget of any member nation.
00:16:04.000 That they would be able to impose lockdown and maybe even mandatory medicines if that treaty is passed.
00:16:10.000 If you're a UK citizen, there's a petition right now to ensure that this matter is debated before it's passed.
00:16:15.000 I don't know what's going on in your country, the US, if they're going to sign up to that kind of regulation.
00:16:20.000 Terrifying to contemplate after the last couple of years and the way that we know it's funded, I'm talking about Bill Gates, that the WHO could have yet more power.
00:16:30.000 But the fact is that they've got power within Google, they've got power within Alphabet, they've got power on YouTube, and don't I know it, so we won't be able to discuss these stories there.
00:16:39.000 So if you're watching this on YouTube, I want you to click the link in the description right now.
00:16:43.000 Join us over on Rumble where we will be talking about Hey, let's have a look.
00:16:47.000 You guys have said that Jon Stewart is a threat to Apple and maybe being a threat to Apple when it comes to most most nations on Earth is a bigger consideration.
00:16:53.000 This time it takes about five seconds before we leave.
00:16:54.000 So for this five seconds, I'm in a purgatorial space where I don't actually yet have the full confidence
00:17:01.000 to express myself.
00:17:04.000 Hey, let's have a look.
00:17:05.000 You guys have said that Jon Stewart is a threat to Apple and maybe being a threat to Apple
00:17:10.000 when it comes to most nations on earth is a bigger consideration.
00:17:13.000 Apple at this point are more powerful, I would say, and more influential than many nations.
00:17:19.000 Okay, so let's have a look at Andrew Bridgen.
00:17:21.000 Are we safe?
00:17:22.000 Are we off YouTube?
00:17:23.000 Am I safe to talk about excess deaths?
00:17:24.000 Can we get confirmation of that here?
00:17:26.000 Because if we, we're off.
00:17:27.000 Thank you.
00:17:28.000 As always, get one of them clear.
00:17:29.000 Maybe you can even post it up somewhere.
00:17:30.000 All right, we're on Rumble now.
00:17:32.000 We can relax.
00:17:33.000 Hello, all of you.
00:17:35.000 There's 10,000 of us watching live.
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00:18:00.000 Now you voted to see the Andrew Bridgen story.
00:18:03.000 Let's have a look at that right now.
00:18:05.000 Andrew Bridgen wanted to debate excess deaths in Parliament.
00:18:09.000 You'll be familiar with excess deaths.
00:18:11.000 They're another one of those subjects that you simply couldn't discuss.
00:18:14.000 Athletes dropping dead.
00:18:15.000 Famous young folks dropping dead all over the world.
00:18:18.000 Apparently healthy people dropping dead left and right and we all had to just hold our noses, take a deep breath and pretend that it was normal and ordinary.
00:18:26.000 Has anything unusual happened in the last couple of years that could cause people to be dropping dead all over the show, seemingly for no reason?
00:18:34.000 Well, finally it's entered the political sphere.
00:18:36.000 You've got Rand Paul willing to discuss it in your country, Andrew Bridges discussing it in the UK.
00:18:43.000 Let's have a look.
00:18:48.000 It's discouraging to see that just so many members of the British political system have
00:18:53.000 turned up to debate that.
00:18:55.000 Look at that, there's eight people!
00:18:58.000 That's democracy!
00:18:59.000 That's your taxpayer pounds in our country.
00:19:02.000 That's what democracy looks like.
00:19:03.000 What are we debating today?
00:19:04.000 Oh, excess deaths.
00:19:05.000 Yeah, I think I might stay at home and water the garden.
00:19:08.000 What are we talking about tomorrow?
00:19:09.000 We're going to talk about whether or not we should have pay rises.
00:19:11.000 You want to see how crammed that place gets.
00:19:13.000 Let's see what Andrew Bridgen says.
00:19:15.000 We've had a year of 2021 in the whole of 2020.
00:19:18.000 Unlike the pandemic, however, these deaths are not disproportionately of the old.
00:19:23.000 In other words, the excessive deaths are striking down people in the prime of life.
00:19:27.000 But no-one seems to care.
00:19:29.000 I fear history will not judge this House kindly.
00:19:33.000 Worse still, in a country supposedly committed to free and frank exchange of views, it appears that no-one cares that no-one cares.
00:19:40.000 Well, I care, Mr Deputy Speaker, and I credit those Members here in attendance today who also care.
00:19:48.000 60,000 excess deaths between 2021 and 2022 in the US.
00:19:52.000 That means in the United States, you experienced a Vietnam War of casualties among young people.
00:19:59.000 And of course, that was a 12 year long war.
00:20:02.000 As you know, you don't need me to tell you that in just a two year period.
00:20:05.000 What happened?
00:20:07.000 What took out all those young people?
00:20:09.000 And why did they want indemnity from prosecution before they even agreed to manufacture those things?
00:20:15.000 How extraordinary.
00:20:17.000 You notice that Andrew Bridgen there was speaking to a near-empty parliament.
00:20:21.000 That's our equivalent of Congress, near as dammit.
00:20:23.000 Look at how jammed that place is when those guys are discussing pay rises.
00:20:29.000 At the top, that's them when they're discussing pay rises, that's when they're discussing excess debt.
00:20:33.000 So, what do you imagine is their priorities?
00:20:36.000 Themselves and their self-interests, or the people that they purportedly govern?
00:20:41.000 It's a comparable question that we ask when we talk about the ongoing global wars and the nature of their funding.
00:20:48.000 When you know how many members of your Congress bought stocks and shares in weapons manufacturing In the days leading up to both the Ukraine-Russia conflict and the Israel war, it gives you a sort of sense of what their priorities might be.
00:21:03.000 Now when you bundle together in a very complex and diverse set of conflicts, don't you take real risks?
00:21:12.000 Ruby C. Kinglet over on one of our Awaken Wonders says, The WHO has to be stopped.
00:21:16.000 Does anyone in the US know how we push back?
00:21:18.000 You've got to debate it, you've got to oppose it.
00:21:20.000 BreeJam79, I knew they'd come for Jon Stewart eventually.
00:21:24.000 He's pretty, truthy, fantastic.
00:21:26.000 A lot of you in Rumble are wondering whether or not these are sort of peculiar symbols.
00:21:31.000 Some of you like to know about the old 33.
00:21:33.000 Because I love Jesus Christ.
00:21:35.000 I'm certainly not in the Freemasons.
00:21:36.000 You guys cannot possibly believe I'm controlled opposition.
00:21:40.000 I'll tell you how they're controlling me.
00:21:42.000 Terror!
00:21:42.000 Absolute terror, if indeed that is what's happening.
00:21:45.000 Trump can't be controlled, says Ellen Knox.
00:21:47.000 That's why he's a threat to them.
00:21:49.000 And the global stronghold is, and always has been, in Europe.
00:21:52.000 That's over on Rumble, 48 says there.
00:21:55.000 We need a peasant's revolt, says Catherine the Curious on Rumble.
00:21:59.000 Indeed we do.
00:22:01.000 A global revolution, unified but decentralised.
00:22:05.000 Some genuine new ideas, a new vision, personal empowerment and awakening, an ability to control your own community, to have your own culture, Without the impediment of the state, without an endless bleaching deluge coming down from on high from a corporate culture that wants only to centralize and authorize.
00:22:26.000 And when you have global wars escalating, funding coming from your government, from your taxpayer dollars, when you see them being bundled together somewhat irresponsibly, as with the Ukraine-Russia conflict, the ongoing escalating tensions in Israel, and even Even additional support for Taiwan.
00:22:44.000 You have to question, is Joe Biden the right man to be leading the free world right now?
00:22:50.000 Will the rambling and incoherent speech he gave the other night in the White House propel America towards a global war?
00:22:59.000 Is that what you want?
00:23:01.000 Here's the news?
00:23:02.000 No.
00:23:03.000 Here's the FN news.
00:23:04.000 Thanks for focusing Fox News.
00:23:06.000 Good news.
00:23:07.000 No, here's the FN news.
00:23:10.000 Good news!
00:23:11.000 Joe Biden is bundling together a series of really complex global conflicts in order to get loads and loads of money for potential escalating wars with China, Russia, and across the Middle East.
00:23:25.000 Bundling all these things together to get new aid in a rambling, incoherent speech is surely a great thing for all of us that are looking forward to Armageddon.
00:23:35.000 I'm of course referring to the numerous conflicts across the world that don't seem to have resolution anywhere in mind.
00:23:43.000 Ukraine and Russia is prolonged, Israel and their Middle Eastern conflicts are so complicated and agonizing even to reflect upon, and potential wars could be beginning as a result of the relationship between China, Taiwan and American financial interests.
00:23:57.000 Joe Biden just yesterday, in an extraordinary and rare speech, has requested more aid that puts these complex, distinct, nuanced nuanced, difficult conflicts into one bundle.
00:24:08.000 When is it ever a good idea to bundle different things together?
00:24:12.000 When was the last time we heard bundling in the news?
00:24:14.000 Wasn't it when they were bundling together subprime mortgages?
00:24:16.000 Aren't these very difficult, very distinct matters that require discrete reflection and
00:24:22.000 contemplation?
00:24:24.000 I don't know.
00:24:24.000 Let's work that out together.
00:24:25.000 Remember, download the Rumble app.
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00:24:31.000 Not like on other platforms where they don't inform you at all.
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00:24:37.000 Let's get into Joe Biden's peculiar speech and think together how should we be approaching this rather unique moment in human history together.
00:24:46.000 President Biden's national address tonight was designed to convince Congress the U.S.
00:24:51.000 and the world will be safer if we help fund not just Israel, but Ukraine too.
00:24:56.000 Did you notice that prior to the escalation of the crises in the Middle East, there was a general sense that support for continual financial aid for the Ukraine-Russia conflict was starting to wane?
00:25:09.000 Not because people don't love Ukrainian folk or want to support them in their humanitarian disaster, but because of the failure of the counter-offensive, a different type of understanding around the conditions that led to this war, in part because NATO themselves said, Putin told us that he would escalate this war if we did these things and we did those things anyway.
00:25:25.000 So bundling together The very, very complex situation in the Middle East where people are still reeling and grieving and it's very difficult to see a clear pathway through it.
00:25:34.000 Bundling that together with Ukraine and Russia seems to me to be politically exploitative.
00:25:39.000 Let me know in the chat if you agree that those issues should be regarded separately when it comes to financial and military aid.
00:25:45.000 The president defending his expected Friday request to Congress, an unprecedented estimated $105 billion in security funding for Israel and Ukraine.
00:25:56.000 $60 billion is said to be slated for the fight against Russia.
00:26:00.000 So more than half of the aid for an ongoing conflict, which we've been told for a long time, isn't a proxy war that has been steadily escalating.
00:26:08.000 Are you beginning to become concerned that we could be months Or at most years away from a situation where there is a war, a hot war, as Tucker Carlson predicted, between the US and Russia.
00:26:19.000 A conflict which is scaling up in Southeast Asia between China and America.
00:26:25.000 You know, the military bases that are already there and the semiconductor matter in Taiwan.
00:26:29.000 And involvement in a conflict including multiple nations potentially in the Middle East.
00:26:34.000 What would that be like?
00:26:35.000 You're already seeing news reports where people are saying, yeah, America can have that level of conflict.
00:26:39.000 Joe Biden saying, in my view, somewhat glibly, we're the United States for Christ God damn sake.
00:26:44.000 We could have as many global wars as we want.
00:26:47.000 We could have another war on other planets.
00:26:49.000 We don't even get me a telescope.
00:26:50.000 What about one over there?
00:26:51.000 Isn't this difficult enough without you reaching for a telescope to find some far flung planet that we can start profiting from?
00:26:59.000 I mean, having a war with?
00:27:00.000 I mean, what is it we're doing?
00:27:01.000 Good evening, my fellow Americans.
00:27:03.000 We're facing an inflection point in history.
00:27:05.000 Yeah, it is an inflection point.
00:27:07.000 And here's the inflection.
00:27:09.000 One of those moments where the decisions we make today are going to determine the future for decades to come.
00:27:15.000 I know these conflicts can seem far away.
00:27:17.000 No, actually, they're starting to seem increasingly local because there's one escalating in China, there's one in Europe, and there's one in what we call the Middle East.
00:27:26.000 So wherever you are, you're quite near to it.
00:27:28.000 That's the thing about World War Three.
00:27:30.000 There's no escaping it.
00:27:31.000 It's natural to ask, why does this matter to America?
00:27:33.000 You don't have to explain to me why it matters, but we might all die in an escalating crisis.
00:27:38.000 Now, I'm well aware, and I will say again, if you're a person that's emotionally and personally affected, religiously, ideologically, or because of national ties to the conflict in the Middle East, or any of these conflicts, I would not seek to lecture you about something you know a lot more about than I do, and you feel a lot more strongly about than I do.
00:27:54.000 We're offering you a critique of the way the legacy media is amplifying the agenda of the powerful which might not be about humanitarian issues and could be about economic issues based on all wars previously ever.
00:28:08.000 So let me share with you why making sure Israel and Ukraine succeed is vital for America's national security.
00:28:15.000 You know, history has taught us.
00:28:16.000 It's taught us a few lessons, history.
00:28:18.000 Here's one.
00:28:19.000 When you look back at wars that America got involved in because of what they said were humanitarian reasons, it looks like that wasn't it at all.
00:28:26.000 Sometimes they say, for example, there are weapons of mass destruction, and there aren't weapons of mass destruction.
00:28:31.000 Sometimes they attack Iraq straight after 9-11 even though most of the people involved appeared to be from Saudi Arabia.
00:28:36.000 So history teaches a lot of lessons and I would say perhaps the strongest lesson is do not trust authority.
00:28:43.000 Don't seek to judge the feelings of people that are involved in a conflict in ways that, blessedly, I can't personally imagine.
00:28:49.000 Remain open-hearted and loving to the possibility of peace.
00:28:52.000 See how you can be of service and value and stop starting wars all the time just because it's convenient for Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.
00:29:02.000 When dictators don't pay a price for their aggression, they cause more chaos and death,
00:29:07.000 and more destruction.
00:29:08.000 They didn't like that swallow.
00:29:12.000 They keep going, and the cost and the threats to America and the world keep rising.
00:29:18.000 For 75 years, NATO has kept peace in Europe.
00:29:21.000 I don't know about that, really, and the efficacy of NATO, or the function of NATO.
00:29:21.000 Hmm.
00:29:26.000 I mean, they're not keeping peace particularly well at the moment.
00:29:28.000 They've provoked Putin till he's in a blind fury.
00:29:31.000 Essentially, it seems that there's a unipolar agenda.
00:29:34.000 It seems to me there might even be an agenda to bring about this kind of cataclysm in order to legitimise further authoritarianism, surveillance, censorship, and establish the kind of control we I don't know and I'm just riffing here.
00:29:45.000 Establishment elites are able to enjoy a particular kind of life and ordinary people are controlled in ways that are unprecedented and until recently were unimaginable.
00:29:53.000 But it's not like I can think of a period in recent history where most people were locked in their homes and powerful people carried on having parties and... Yes I can!
00:30:01.000 And it's been the cornerstone of American security.
00:30:04.000 And if Putin attacks a NATO ally, we will defend every inch of NATO which a treaty requires and calls for.
00:30:10.000 Well, it's going to be difficult because people are joining up to NATO like it's going out of fashion.
00:30:14.000 It's like the new TikTok.
00:30:16.000 Although TikTok's banned for misinformation.
00:30:18.000 We'll have something that we do not seek.
00:30:21.000 Make it clear, we do not seek.
00:30:23.000 We do not seek to have American troops fighting in Russia.
00:30:26.000 Uh-oh!
00:30:27.000 We're getting a little bit closer!
00:30:28.000 We do not seek it.
00:30:30.000 I'm not seeking it like hide-and-go-seek, like an easter egg hunt where we're seeking it, like your dog's lost in the woods and you're seeking it, but oh no, look what's happened anyway!
00:30:39.000 American troops are in Russia.
00:30:40.000 That, I would say, is priming.
00:30:42.000 We're fighting against Russia.
00:30:44.000 Beyond Europe, we know that our allies and maybe most importantly our adversaries and competitors are watching.
00:30:50.000 It's a little weird to jump from allies to adversaries and competitors.
00:30:54.000 Competing for what?
00:30:56.000 Because competitors, that's the language of economics, commerce and business.
00:30:56.000 That's very telling.
00:31:01.000 And actually, that's probably the most truthful, yet inadvertent thing that's been said in that speech.
00:31:05.000 We're competing with them for resources.
00:31:07.000 We're competing with them for power.
00:31:09.000 We're competing with them for control over the semiconductor market.
00:31:11.000 I still don't really know what a semiconductor is, but I do believe that economic interests and interests of dominion usually prevail over humanitarianism.
00:31:20.000 Just looking back at previous conflicts, let me know in the chat if you agree.
00:31:23.000 You're watching our response in Ukraine as well.
00:31:26.000 And if we walk away and let Putin erase Ukraine's independence, would-be aggressors around the world would be emboldened to try the same.
00:31:34.000 It's not school, is it?
00:31:35.000 The world's not school.
00:31:37.000 Well, those gangs of bullies around the world, you gotta stand up to bullies like I did.
00:31:41.000 Remember Corn Pop?
00:31:42.000 Remember that story?
00:31:43.000 No, don't do the Corn Pop.
00:31:44.000 Don't do the Corn Pop.
00:31:45.000 There are not other countries that are like Russia that can pose that same kind of threat.
00:31:50.000 Hey, if Russia's getting away with it, why don't we try this in San Marino?
00:31:54.000 The risk of conflict and chaos could spread in other parts of the world.
00:31:58.000 In the Indo-Pacific, in the Middle East, especially in the Middle East.
00:32:02.000 This is being described as if organically there's this sort of cluster of global events that are taking place that aren't somehow affected to the efforts and actions of American imperialism.
00:32:12.000 Not seeking to blame the United States of America, but when you learn that 57% of the world's autocracies have been sold weaponry by the United States and military-industrial complex corporations within The United States, with the United States, sometimes delivering those weapons, being brokers for those kind of weapons deals.
00:32:30.000 Just take the example of Saudi Arabia.
00:32:32.000 It's just one obvious example.
00:32:33.000 I've got no strong views on Saudi Arabia.
00:32:36.000 But I do remember Joe Biden had strong views.
00:32:36.000 What do I know?
00:32:39.000 Make them, in fact, the pariah that they are.
00:32:41.000 Saudi Arabia, hey, we can just do a deal selling them more weapons than Donald Trump did.
00:32:46.000 So what's actually going on?
00:32:47.000 What's the agenda?
00:32:48.000 Is this what's getting said in this conversation here true or not?
00:32:53.000 The United States and our partners across the region are working to build a better future for the Middle East.
00:32:59.000 One where the Middle East is more stable, better connected to its neighbours, and through innovative projects like the Indian-Middle East-Europe Rail Corridor.
00:33:09.000 Firstly, some of the things in that sentence weren't words.
00:33:11.000 More predictable markets, more employment.
00:33:14.000 Business, business, corporate interests.
00:33:16.000 It's really interesting.
00:33:18.000 Now, of course, we all have commercial imperatives.
00:33:19.000 I'm not free from economic requirements myself, and I know that you aren't either.
00:33:23.000 But ultimately, how will you be affected by these decisions that are being made?
00:33:27.000 Just look at recent crises that are not military.
00:33:30.000 Do you know that this presented opportunity for record profits for some energy companies?
00:33:30.000 The energy crisis.
00:33:34.000 What about that health crisis that we recently all went through relatively together?
00:33:38.000 Do you know that Big Pharma made record profits during that period?
00:33:42.000 So is it possible that what we regard as crisis, and indeed a told crisis, and for the people directly involved, are unquestionably crises of an almost unimaginable scale, to the kind of corporate interests that are in positions of leadership and power that transcend the ordinary institutions of democracy as we understand them because we've been coached and trained to believe in, oh I'm going to vote for that guy, I like the thing you said about that, that's more like my beliefs, actually benefit From situations that the rest of us would look at and say, how the hell do we resolve this as quickly as possible?
00:34:10.000 Or, oh God, we can't even say stuff like that yet because it's too painful for the people involved and you risk sounding like you're partisan or not understanding the depth of their pain and suffering.
00:34:19.000 What you shouldn't, I don't think, be doing is making it worse.
00:34:22.000 Or even if making it worse is too much of a contentious thing to say, given the scale, scope and nuance of these conflicts, profit in from it.
00:34:29.000 It benefits the people who would benefit the people of the Middle East and would benefit us.
00:34:33.000 Like, I trust a president a lot more that said, firstly and foremostly, all of those people that profited by investing in weapons companies that are members of Congress, we've actually said you can't be in Congress anymore because your priorities are clearly off.
00:34:46.000 I mean, you're supposed to be here helping us reach a consensus based on what we imagine is the will of the people of America, and I can't imagine the will of the American people is Who wants to profit from this?
00:34:54.000 Guys, you should invest right now!
00:34:56.000 Is that a good representation of your feelings, of your values, of your morals?
00:35:00.000 This isn't being addressed right now, that's just business as usual.
00:35:03.000 And business as usual is what I'm worried is what's happening.
00:35:06.000 American leadership is what holds the world together.
00:35:09.000 I don't know about that.
00:35:11.000 When you look at the weapons sales, when you look at the Cold War, when you look at the proxy wars between now and the Cold War, when you look at the lack of intervention in the 2008 crisis, when the banks that collapsed the global economy and caused so much suffering in America were bailed out by Barack Obama.
00:35:26.000 Is American leadership what causes and creates and generates peace around the world, or is it somehow absolutely dependent on conflict and crisis because of the nature of the industries that run it?
00:35:36.000 American values are what make us a partner that other nations want to work with.
00:35:41.000 To put all that at risk, if we walk away from Ukraine, if we turn our backs on Israel, it's just not worth it.
00:35:48.000 I think what's happened here, and let me know if this sounds too cynical for you to even imagine, people have said, the war in Ukraine is becoming very unpopular because it's not going the way we said it would.
00:35:57.000 But there is a lot of support for Israel because of the horrific nature of those terrorist attacks, and in the moment when people feel as heated up and as horrified by that, they're not able even to look at the complexity.
00:36:07.000 So, shall we start combining Ukraine and Israel in order to facilitate ongoing aid because we love people so much and we've just got to help people with weapons?
00:36:17.000 Or do you think there might be another agenda?
00:36:19.000 Just, can you see that there might be?
00:36:21.000 Can there be?
00:36:22.000 Just remember those people in Congress.
00:36:24.000 Just remember the arms that are being sold all around the world.
00:36:26.000 57% of them to autocracies.
00:36:28.000 If you hold those things together in your mind and you listen to those words, where did it take you?
00:36:31.000 That's why tomorrow I'm going to send to Congress an urgent budget request.
00:36:35.000 To fund America's national security needs, to support our critical partners including Israel and Ukraine is a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for American security for generations.
00:36:48.000 Help us keep American troops out of harm's way.
00:36:50.000 Oh, that's so mad.
00:36:52.000 This is mad.
00:36:53.000 To help us keep American troops out of harm's way.
00:36:56.000 Obviously what this speech is designed to do is just make you go, oh, all right, just do that.
00:37:00.000 Or be so confused that you can't make sense because these conflicts are distinct and separate.
00:37:06.000 They are separate ideas.
00:37:07.000 The causes and roots of the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the complexity of what's happening in the Middle East and the economic interest that might benefit from that.
00:37:19.000 And again, as I always say, that is not offering an opinion on the emotions of people involved in this conflict.
00:37:24.000 I would consider that rude and unacceptable.
00:37:27.000 Is there an attempt here to bundle these conflicts together in order to generate financial opportunity
00:37:33.000 and opportunity of unipolar hegemonic dominion by the United States?
00:37:38.000 Help us build a world that is safer, more peaceful, more prosperous for our children
00:37:43.000 When you consider your children and grandchildren, that's when a stark new perspective becomes available, isn't it?
00:37:49.000 Like, hold on a minute.
00:37:50.000 These wars all the time.
00:37:52.000 One route is we have to slay all of our enemies irreversibly somehow, and the other one is some kind of alternative has to be considered.
00:38:00.000 I mean, that's when, when you look beyond yourself and your own emotions and your own feelings and your own allegiances and your own alliances, anybody could perhaps have a different perspective.
00:38:08.000 But it certainly exposes that the current purview is undergirded by economic interests.
00:38:13.000 I mean, isn't that obvious?
00:38:15.000 On Ukraine, I'm asking Congress to make sure we can continue to send Ukraine the weapons they need to defend themselves and their country without interruption.
00:38:25.000 So Ukraine can stop Putin's brutality in Ukraine.
00:38:29.000 They are succeeding.
00:38:30.000 Even that sentiment, that seems acceptable enough, has to be paired with discourse elsewhere, where it's like, this is a bang for your buck.
00:38:38.000 Ukrainians seem a bit casualty resistant.
00:38:40.000 This is a very economic war.
00:38:42.000 You've heard all that other stuff.
00:38:43.000 You have to pretend that a load of reality doesn't exist in order to make this reality palatable.
00:38:48.000 Let me be clear about something.
00:38:51.000 We send Ukrainian equipment sitting in our stockpiles.
00:38:55.000 And when we use the money allocated by Congress, we use it to replenish our own stores, our own stockpiles, with new equipment.
00:39:03.000 Equipment that defends America and is made in America.
00:39:08.000 Patron missiles for air defence batteries.
00:39:11.000 Made in Arizona.
00:39:12.000 Don't brush your lip like that, it makes it look like you're lying.
00:39:15.000 Made in Arizona.
00:39:16.000 And what was the rationale when you were making the previous weapons that went into that stockpile?
00:39:21.000 Artillery shells manufactured in 12 states across the country, in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Texas.
00:39:26.000 Do you see how he tried to make it sound like this is a sort of a job scheme for people in Arizona?
00:39:30.000 You're going to have good jobs, making missiles out there in Arizona, it's going to be beautiful.
00:39:34.000 If the intention was to improve the lives of people in Arizona, there are other ways of doing that.
00:39:39.000 It's unbelievable to just try to make this positive for domestic America.
00:39:43.000 You know, just as in World War II, today patriotic American workers are building the arsenal of democracy.
00:39:51.000 And serving the cause of freedom.
00:39:52.000 Wow.
00:39:53.000 This is propaganda live.
00:39:55.000 Simplification, reductivism, combining distinct and discrete issues, sometimes very complex issues, together.
00:40:02.000 This is, in a sense, a very good exercise in understanding how power operates.
00:40:06.000 Beyond that, though, it's pretty terrifying.
00:40:08.000 In moments like these, we have to remember who we are.
00:40:11.000 You can talk.
00:40:12.000 We're the United States of America.
00:40:15.000 The United States of America.
00:40:16.000 Oh my god.
00:40:17.000 Think of the way that Trump is condemned for jingoism and sort of a kind of ease with what you might call blue-collar Americans.
00:40:24.000 They're only complaining because he's better at it.
00:40:26.000 What's that an attempt to do?
00:40:27.000 We're the United States of America.
00:40:28.000 America.
00:40:29.000 America.
00:40:31.000 That's not politics.
00:40:32.000 And there is nothing, nothing beyond our capacity if we do it together.
00:40:38.000 My fellow Americans, thank you for your time.
00:40:41.000 May God bless you all.
00:40:43.000 Well, I think we're going to need him because he'll make some pretty terrible decisions.
00:40:47.000 But let's get into some alternative facts around this issue.
00:40:50.000 US President Joe Biden's speech Thursday night on national television was a demand for vast new military spending to expand the ongoing US-NATO proxy war against Russia and Ukraine.
00:40:59.000 Biden's speech was not a serious attempt to convince anyone or rationally explain US foreign policy.
00:41:03.000 It consisted of a series of non-sequiturs strung one after the other with no coherent argument binding them together.
00:41:08.000 Biden drew a parallel between Hamas and Russian President Vladimir Putin that objectively did not make the slightest sense.
00:41:14.000 But as he spoke it became clear that the main aim of the speech was to utilise the war in Gaza to procure a massive spending bill for the Ukraine war to prop up the Zelensky government following the failure of its summer offensive.
00:41:26.000 So however you feel about the conflict, And I mean that there are a variety of opinions obviously available.
00:41:32.000 That's, I suppose, what a war is.
00:41:33.000 Opposing views expressed through violence.
00:41:36.000 What that tells you is they don't really care other than utilising it, using it to perpetuate the war between Russia and Ukraine and prolonging the war.
00:41:47.000 I've heard some analysis that even has a vision of a post-war Ukraine as a kind of proxy state
00:41:54.000 that BlackRock are already agreeing to invest in, where they're going to pilot new digital
00:41:58.000 technology. This is not stuff I'm making up, we did a video about it, it's information that's
00:42:01.000 available. It feels to me like there is another agenda entirely that's piggybacking on all this
00:42:06.000 talk of age and America's unique role in the world. Indeed, the New York Times has reported
00:42:11.000 that $60 billion of the $100 billion spending bill Biden proposed in the speech will go to fight the
00:42:16.000 war in Ukraine against Russia.
00:42:18.000 This figure is more than twice Biden's initial request of $24 billion in August.
00:42:22.000 Despite its rambling and incoherent nature, the main import of the speech is clear.
00:42:27.000 America is hurling towards global war and the President of the United States, the so-called Commander-in-Chief, is demanding $100 billion in additional funds on top of the $1 trillion already proposed for all military spending to finance this explosion of That does appear to be the agenda wrapped up in a confectionary of patriotic and moralistic language that I am ill at ease accepting when these figures are available.
00:42:52.000 Unmentioned in the speech, but widely reported in advance of Friday's formal request to Congress, is the fact that Biden will also seek billions more in U.S.
00:42:59.000 military aid to Taiwan, an effort to provoke further conflict with China and militarize the U.S.-Mexico border and intensify U.S.
00:43:05.000 intervention throughout Latin America.
00:43:07.000 I use the phrase omni-crisis these days to, in a sense, present to you the idea that crisis is all places, all of the time.
00:43:16.000 That is what's sort of being generated now, geographically and temporally.
00:43:20.000 No end to crisis, just a suspended state of crisis, a suspended state of fear, and the vision of like, what's the end point of this?
00:43:28.000 What would a solution look like?
00:43:29.000 Why do you never see the legacy media say, but what about that Iraq war?
00:43:33.000 Remember the incentives for that.
00:43:35.000 How are we deploying different ideas and a different mentality?
00:43:38.000 Or is it, hold on a minute, this is the same, isn't it?
00:43:40.000 These wars, hold on.
00:43:42.000 Now again, I have to keep saying that I'm not talking about Israel's right to be outraged by terrorist attacks.
00:43:47.000 It's not something I feel like I qualify to do as a human being.
00:43:50.000 But this, I feel pretty qualified to comment on.
00:43:52.000 Do you?
00:43:53.000 Aware of the deepening opposition to the US war in Ukraine, now ending its 80-month and apparently mired in an endless, costly and bloody stalemate, Biden sought to bootstrap the conflicts in Israel to justify further spending in Ukraine, which will get the lion's share of whatever military aid bill ultimately emerges from Congress just on that basis alone.
00:44:10.000 All of this talk ultimately leads to disproportionate expenditure on an
00:44:15.000 increasingly unpopular conflict. But it's unpopular not for moral or ethical reasons but because of
00:44:20.000 the observable failure of a plan that we were offered just a few months ago. While Biden declared
00:44:25.000 that the world was at an inflection point, this is not because war is something new for the
00:44:30.000 United States. On the contrary, America has been at war for more than 30 years and the
00:44:33.000 countries which it's invaded, occupied, or bombed amount to a significant portion of the world's
00:44:37.000 population. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, most of North Africa, Bosnia, Kosovo,
00:44:43.000 Serbia.
00:44:44.000 Sudan.
00:44:45.000 What is new is the transformation of these wars into a more general conflict, or as Leon Trotsky described it on the eve of World War II, when separate clashes and bloody local disturbances must inevitably coalesce into a conflagration of world dimensions.
00:44:58.000 Now don't be upset because Leon Trotsky has been mentioned.
00:45:01.000 The analysis is the analysis.
00:45:03.000 The contours of this new world war can be inferred from Biden's $100 billion bill.
00:45:06.000 It is aimed at expanding the war against Russia, using the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians to trigger a new war against Iran, and preparing for an imminent war against China.
00:45:15.000 The US administration is shaping the battlefield of what amounts to one continuous front in a global conflict whose goal is US dominance of the Eurasian landmass from Eastern Europe through the Middle East, Central Asia, and ultimately China.
00:45:27.000 This is combined with efforts to safeguard its western hemisphere backyard by militarizing the US-Mexico border and disposing of political inconveniences and potential obstacles like Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba.
00:45:38.000 If this appears like a megalomaniac program for global conquest, It is not that it is not relevant to the megalomaniacs in Wall Street and the Pentagon for whom Biden speaks when he delivers his pay-ins to the ability of America to do anything as long as it mobilises its full resources.
00:45:53.000 Biden even used the language of Wall Street in making his argument for the next enormous payout to the Pentagon and the US arms industry.
00:46:00.000 It's a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for American security for generations.
00:46:05.000 It's like dog whistle economics.
00:46:07.000 American workers will pay with their living standards and social benefits and the lives of their sons and daughters, but war will certainly pay for Raytheon, Boeing, and Lockheed Martin, and for the big banks and hedge funds that control them.
00:46:18.000 I suppose we have to consider that the economic implications and the economic language are telling as this might in part be an economically motivated set of decisions.
00:46:27.000 Certainly the bundling together of a variety of conflicts on a variety of fronts that seem to each require their own complex analysis and a broad consensus from any population that might be funding them either financially or at the cost of their own lives or be afforded ultimately What's required, I suppose, is a state of awareness, a state of discernment, an ability to recognize that this language is the language of imperialism, the language of exploitation, rather than the language of patriotism and the language of a good deal for American people and supporting our partners overseas.
00:47:01.000 It seems that embedded in this aid, which is being sold to us as helping partners across the world worthy of support because they're our fellow human beings, And it's difficult, isn't it?
00:47:13.000 Knowing, as we do, that people in Congress went out and invested in stocks and shares during those days.
00:47:19.000 Knowing the amount of money that's spent on lobbying and donations.
00:47:22.000 Knowing that whoever you have in the White House, you're going to have a pro-war president with a few notable exceptions that don't, let's face it, do well at the hands of the establishment.
00:47:31.000 It's pretty clear that the driving factor behind this is not a moral and ethical one.
00:47:37.000 It's an Economic one.
00:47:39.000 It's a hegemonic, almost demonic one of exploitation and opportunity.
00:47:43.000 But that's just what I think.
00:47:44.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.
00:47:46.000 See you in a second.
00:47:47.000 Thanks for watching ZigFox's videos.
00:47:49.000 No.
00:47:49.000 Good day.
00:47:50.000 Here's the fucking news.
00:47:52.000 Given the complexity of these various conflicts, does it seem wise to economically bundle them together?
00:48:00.000 Thanks for commenting in the chat.
00:48:02.000 Thanks for being with us.
00:48:03.000 Thanks for having an inquiring mind and an awakening heart.
00:48:08.000 Now to discuss Matters cardiovascular and also matters of plain veracity is Canadian journalist, and they're in short supply, let me tell you, Rav Arora, an independent journalist from Vancouver, co-writer of The Illusion of Consensus on Substack with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who we just adore.
00:48:30.000 and love on this show, the kind of scientist that we should prize.
00:48:34.000 I believe and I'm hopeful that Rav is the kind of journalist
00:48:38.000 that we should prize because it's not all bad news. It's not just the Omnicrisis.
00:48:43.000 There is dissent and resistance across the world. People are awakening
00:48:48.000 everywhere. Rav Arora is an awakening wonder and a journalist who seems pretty determined to convey the
00:48:54.000 truth. Thank you so much for joining us, Rav.
00:48:58.000 Russell, it's a great honor to talk to you and great honor to meet the millions
00:49:02.000 of awakening wonders, which I proudly consider myself to be one of those.
00:49:06.000 So, great to be here.
00:49:07.000 Thank you.
00:49:08.000 Thank you so much for saying.
00:49:10.000 Now, you're in Canada right now.
00:49:12.000 You seem relatively free So far, but Canada does have new federal broadcast regulatory powers.
00:49:19.000 A new mandate recently has been introduced that means that online streaming services, including podcast platforms, have to register with the government by November 28th, which is sort of astonishing what's being normalized and what's becoming acceptable.
00:49:35.000 Rav, can you give us your perspective on that as both a journalist and as a Canadian?
00:49:40.000 Yeah, so under the new regulations, the CRTC wants to regulate podcasting, just like in the past.
00:49:47.000 And now it regulates radio and television.
00:49:50.000 And so in the past, the idea has been that there's a finite limited amount of bandwidth in terms of what gets put out there in terms of TV, and radio.
00:49:59.000 And it's really bizarre, honestly.
00:50:00.000 It's like they want to apply these old archaic standards for a limited space on TV and radio
00:50:06.000 to the internet, which is infinite.
00:50:08.000 There's no finite number of podcasts or number of websites.
00:50:12.000 It's an infinite realm.
00:50:14.000 But they want to regulate this area, just like they've regulated TV and radio.
00:50:19.000 And there's just problem after problem with this fundamentally.
00:50:24.000 Their purported premise and their motivation, as they say, is to promote Canadian content creators and uplift and amplify Indigenous and minority creators.
00:50:37.000 But the problem with that is that Many of these places, like Spotify, when they were asked to give feedback on this specific law in July, they said, we're already doing a lot to promote Canadian creators and minority creators.
00:50:52.000 They said, like, if you go into our playlist, you'll find dozens of playlists for LGBTQ artists and for indigenous artists and for Indian Punjabi artists, which I reckon, Russell, you might be into some Indian panga music, although I don't know, you seem more like a Hindu.
00:51:06.000 A Hindu enthusiast, I don't know.
00:51:08.000 My heart is open to all forms of expression of the great oneness that we call God, or Allah, or Christ Consciousness, or Buddha Consciousness, or the Supreme Personality of the Godhead.
00:51:20.000 So you're right about that.
00:51:21.000 It's almost listening to you there, Rav.
00:51:23.000 It feels like, first of all, they come up with the objective and then work out how to legitimize it, i.e.
00:51:29.000 The objective is to censor, control and monitor content to gain direct access to even the
00:51:35.000 audience of the podcast, not just the content creators themselves.
00:51:39.000 And then they go, how would we legitimise that?
00:51:42.000 And I think this kind of reverse engineering is becoming more and more prevalent in policy
00:51:47.000 formation, particularly that kind of policy formation that we see within globalism.
00:51:52.000 Does that seem right to you?
00:51:53.000 That it's not really about promoting Canadian content or promoting voices that might otherwise not be heard, but it's about the ability to censor.
00:52:01.000 And if that is your belief, Rav, can you help us to understand it?
00:52:05.000 Yeah.
00:52:06.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, there's so many layers to this, but it's like, why do we need to promote Canadian content?
00:52:12.000 I mean, the reality is, in fact, that Canadian media is dying.
00:52:16.000 People don't really listen to the CBC and the Globe and Mail, Global News, etc.
00:52:21.000 Like, you ask the average 25-year-old guy or gal, like, name, you know, two anchors on CBC or name one journalist writing for the Globe and Mail, and they'll just look at you like deer in the headlights, like, No, I don't fucking know.
00:52:36.000 You ask those people, you know, name the last 15 episodes on Joe Rogan's podcast or name, you know, talk about what Russell Brand was saying last week and they'll be able to tell you.
00:52:47.000 And it's like this crisis here in Canada where Canadian legacy media is dying.
00:52:51.000 The Trudeau government wants to come in and they want to help Canadian media as well as artists.
00:52:56.000 But it's like, you know, why do we need help in the first place?
00:52:59.000 It's like, maybe we should look in the mirror and see why Canadian journalism is just absolutely failing compared to like, if you go on Substack, there's some individual authors like Alex Berenson, making like $2 million a year on their individual newsletter.
00:53:12.000 And here in Canada, you have legacy media outlet after legacy media outlet that's failing.
00:53:17.000 And I think in part because they haven't been honestly and accurately covering a lot of important controversial subjects and actually fighting power with truth and actually engaging in the kind of journalism that, you know, I always thought was real journalism, but increasingly so, they've failed to hold the powerful accountable.
00:53:35.000 And they're kind of focusing on niche, elite issues, you know, identity politics, like the gender ideology stuff.
00:53:42.000 And that's another concern too, by the way, with this bill is like the CRTC, this federal regulator, who is going to be in power now to regulate podcasts, it has a history of catering to sort of social justice ideas and censoring in the name of diversity and inclusion and love.
00:54:01.000 Like in the past, the CRTC, a few years ago, They forced the CBC, which hosts this one podcast, or this one radio program rather, where the hosts, this was in French, they talked about this one case in Montreal of a professor who was under fire for saying the n-word in his class when naming the title of this historical Canadian book, and he was not saying it in a racist way, neither were the hosts of this radio program, but the CRTC said, hey,
00:54:32.000 We know you're not being racist, but we think that this may adversely impact minority communities.
00:54:37.000 So we would like to see you like, we need you, the CBC who platforms a radio program
00:54:44.000 to force this particular program to apologize and to show that they're gonna, you know,
00:54:49.000 reform the way that they do things.
00:54:50.000 And it's like, whatever your view on this particular issue with the N word, it doesn't
00:54:54.000 it doesn't matter at all.
00:54:55.000 But in the future, if this is what they're doing, what are they going to do next?
00:54:59.000 Are they going to say, you know, this podcast, Rav Arora, this Canadian guy who does this
00:55:03.000 podcast with Jay Bhattacharya, what they're saying is actually, actually medically misinformed,
00:55:09.000 and it's misinformation, and it's dangerous.
00:55:11.000 It goes against the guidelines on vaccines and masks.
00:55:14.000 Therefore, we force you, Spotify, to censor Ravarora because this goes against the CRTC guidelines.
00:55:21.000 What I've noticed again and again, Rav, is the utilisation of moral and ethical positions that seem to me to be pretty sensible, i.e.
00:55:33.000 we shouldn't use hateful speech, we shouldn't hurt or undermine one another, there shouldn't be exploitative or violent language used.
00:55:42.000 But we have laws for those matters.
00:55:44.000 Those things are illegal socially and legally already.
00:55:50.000 What I know is that there is an attempt to utilise principles that any sensitive person
00:55:57.000 would be open to discussing and consensually achieving within a culture and a society to
00:56:04.000 enforce further censorship.
00:56:06.000 I like that you said inclusion, love and diversity was the mantra but it seems more like centralisation
00:56:13.000 and authoritarianism is the actual goal.
00:56:16.000 And even the conflation of Canadian, it doesn't mean Canadian as in, you know, in a sense there's a big paradox they're going to come clunking up against there, because what is it to be Canadian?
00:56:29.000 Is it the indigenous people of Canada that were there prior to imperialism and colonization?
00:56:34.000 Is it French Canadians?
00:56:36.000 Is it Canadians from a variety of states and backgrounds and races and cultures?
00:56:40.000 Or is it Centralised Canadian broadcast authorities that will amplify the message of the establishment and ignore the message of independent creators such as yourself.
00:56:52.000 And another N-word, and certainly it's not a word that I would ever use in any context, but an N-word that should be on the lips of any Canadian politician is the word Nazi.
00:57:03.000 Where they've been somewhat indiscreet in recent months, applauding a Nazi right in the heart of Parliament.
00:57:10.000 So it seems that there's a common pattern within apparently liberal, but more correctly described as neoliberal governments across the world, to use language of sensitivity and kindness to legitimise authority.
00:57:23.000 You have to give us this authority so that we can protect these people.
00:57:28.000 I don't see enough evidence that they're concerned in protecting anyone, and I see plenty of evidence they're interested in the assertion of control.
00:57:36.000 Does that seem fair to you, Raz?
00:57:38.000 Yes.
00:57:39.000 Yes, yeah, the other technical and institutional point I'll make is that the CRTC, they follow the Broadcasting Act here in Canada, which now if it's going to include podcasts, that means the CRTC is going to impose the Broadcasting Act guidelines, which explicitly say, as I pointed out in my article on Substack, The Broadcasting Act says all your content and your programming has to reflect and amplify the sexual, gender, racial, ethnic diversity of Canada.
00:58:08.000 And for me, if you had said that 10 years ago or 5 years ago, I would have been like, oh great!
00:58:14.000 Brown people like myself, we're going to be promoted and amplified, that's great, that's amazing.
00:58:20.000 It's like, we know what that looks like.
00:58:23.000 We've seen this in the past.
00:58:24.000 We know that, you know, certain minority voices are uplifted and others are ignored.
00:58:29.000 You have to be a certain kind of minority voice and follow a certain kind of perspective.
00:58:33.000 And, you know, with this, with these podcast regulations, The question is, are they actually going to then amplify diversity of views?
00:58:42.000 Or are they just going to centralize and just kind of stifle free speech and not actually account for just the vast pluralism here in Canada?
00:58:50.000 Like we just had protests across Canada, groups of parents protesting gender ideology
00:58:58.000 being taught to their elementary school kids and middle school kids about you can change your gender,
00:59:03.000 you can be non-binary, you experiment with their sexuality, et cetera, et cetera.
00:59:07.000 And a lot of these protests, by the way, were led by Muslim parents.
00:59:11.000 And it's like, you know, these people are of a diversity of a minority background.
00:59:16.000 They have their own perspective from their own Eastern values rooted in Islam.
00:59:20.000 It's like, is the CRTC going to amplify Muslim podcasters voicing their opposition to this, you know, LGBTQ ideology, which they themselves, by the way, This is super interesting.
00:59:31.000 They themselves, these Canadian Muslim protesters, say this LGBTQ ideology is actually Islamophobic.
00:59:38.000 And it's like, we're in this weird place here in Canada where, like, Justin Trudeau, a few years ago, he was opening the doors, like, open doors to immigration.
00:59:45.000 We can bring in all the refugees from the Islamic world.
00:59:48.000 And some people were, you know, rightly, you know, saying like, okay, can we have an honest conversation about which kind of values matter to us and if we should vet immigration and allow people that, you know, believe in gay rights, women rights, etc.
01:00:00.000 And Trudeau was like, no, no, those people are racist, they're Islamophobic, you know, we got to let in everyone and that conversation was not had.
01:00:07.000 But now, a lot of people here in Canada, including some of those Muslim, you know, immigrants and refugees that he brought in, now are actually critical of Justin Trudeau's You know, public pronouncements and supports for 2SLGBTQ.
01:00:21.000 He tripped up on this recently, the acronym, and forgot how many letters there are in the acronym.
01:00:25.000 But it's like, there's this identity politics divide, and increasingly, as they gain more and more power, Canadians like myself are worried what they're going to do with this, because in the past, they've shown their record for abiding by certain social justice pieties and not actually respecting and valuing a diversity of opinion.
01:00:43.000 And so, this particular law, I think, is This kind of hubristic regulatory nationalism with these kind of undertones of socialism of like, we have to engineer these perfect outcomes and we have to amplify and spotlight Canadian content creators as if that's at all needed.
01:01:00.000 Like, the best idea should win.
01:01:02.000 People should listen to Russell Brand's podcast if they want.
01:01:04.000 They should listen to the CBC if they want.
01:01:06.000 And if the CBC and Canadian media is dying, then maybe they should look in the mirror and figure out why they're dying and why so many people are listening to Joe Rogan and Russell Brand instead.
01:01:16.000 Thank you.
01:01:16.000 That's a wonderful answer that had some good promo for me in it, which we can, I think, use worldwide.
01:01:22.000 Potentially not in Canada, though.
01:01:24.000 Hey, mate, so yeah, I wanted to say that you'll always end up in kind of paradoxical places if you lack real values and principles.
01:01:32.000 And in a sense, it points to the dilemma that you just outlined, the necessity for decentralization.
01:01:39.000 It shows that, in effect, the flow, the general natural flow, and given what we discussed before our interview about your beliefs and interests, at least, in Hinduism and Buddhism, That if indeed there is a sort of flow in the general direction, as if there is a will that's being expressed beyond the will of the political class, that is towards, I believe, increasing diversity, increasing decentralization.
01:02:07.000 And if you don't honour and respect that through the models of power and systems that you appoint, you'll end up in the ludicrous situation where people that have perfectly legitimate views based on Islam, with which they would like to regulate their community, or perfectly legitimate views based on more modern ideas around gender, which they would like to use to regulate their community, have to find a way of being governed together.
01:02:34.000 In a sense, it's obvious.
01:02:36.000 But what the new technology allows us to replicate is the actual kind of organic diversity that our species evidently lived with for a long, long, long time, historically and prehistorically.
01:02:49.000 The idea of homogenizing, creating a universal and oppressive set of values that mean that people with religious and cultural beliefs that are at odds with one another have to either live in tension, which by the way is conveniently Very beneficial for centralised power.
01:03:04.000 We'll either be at loggerheads, or one side will have to oppress or repress the other side, instead of accepting, oh look, why don't this community do what they want to do, and this community do what they want to do, and this community listen to media that's useful for them, and this community listen to media that's useful for them.
01:03:21.000 That only becomes a problem if you have a goal to centralise authority even beyond the nation.
01:03:28.000 Even if when you start thinking you want unelected bodies to be able to take revenue for taxation essentially from individual nations and impose policy.
01:03:38.000 I'm referring to the WHO's pandemic treaty that will provide exactly those kind of powers to the WHO for any member nation.
01:03:48.000 I wonder if you're Familiar with that and the advance of that, and if you think this is a good time in the conversation to fold that in, Rav, because we can still talk about censorship while folding in where do these ideas come from.
01:04:00.000 For example, on YouTube, many of their censorship policies, and I love the platform and I love how it elevated many of our ideas, but their policies, as you know, when it comes to community guidelines for all medical matters, are now derived from the WHO, which has, let's say, a complex funding model.
01:04:19.000 Yes, yeah, yeah.
01:04:21.000 I totally agree with you.
01:04:22.000 I think the WH... There's a lot of what you just said there.
01:04:26.000 I mean, there's the point about the cultural values, which I know we're not going to focus on.
01:04:31.000 We could spend hours on that conversation.
01:04:33.000 I think we need to have our own individual communities and have some sort of universal values and kind of, you know, come together with a certain kind of respect for, you know, women's rights, gay rights, liberalism, free speech, Diversity of opinion, religious diversity, and I think far too common in the past certain progressives and liberals have just not wanted to have a conversation about universal values.
01:04:57.000 And now across Canada, you know, you saw certain kind of protests, you know, Right in the aftermath of what happened with Israel and Palestine, you saw a lot of pro-Palestinian protests, which I actually defended, by the way, because there was a conservative politician in Canada that was coming down and saying these protests should be illegal and telling the RCMP, the police organizations in Canada, that there are pro-Palestinian protests that are coming in and they should be stopped at all costs because this is illegal.
01:05:26.000 And I pointed out in one of my recent articles that that should not happen.
01:05:29.000 We should have people um have their own views even if you disagree with them and particularly when you disagree with them because a lot of these protests that was organized by this one particular organization the pro-Palestinian youth movement they were sort of glorifying and celebrating Hamas as these resistance fighters and nowhere in their advertisement for these protests right a day two days right after what happened in Israel was there any condemnation of Hamas and for me it was like
01:05:57.000 Okay, these ideas I totally disagree with, and these people, regardless of your views on how the war should go on and what our policy should be, these people are unable to condemn Hamas, and we've seen this time and time again on the progressive left, but their free speech should not be taken, and any politicians that are coming down and saying, you're wrong, we disagree with you, Your protest should be illegal.
01:06:18.000 That to me is a step way too far and down the spiral of tyrannical power and authoritarianism that has been way too way too common and just alarmingly salient over the past few years with what's what's what happened with COVID with the truckers convoy where bank accounts were frozen where You know, you had the wrong opinion on COVID and suddenly we're using emergency powers for the first time in our history over people celebrating and having a good time in opposition to vaccine mandates, which, by the way, that's how I got into writing a lot about the COVID issues, was about suddenly people like myself who immigrated from India
01:06:55.000 Suddenly we couldn't leave the country.
01:06:57.000 I couldn't exercise at a gym or attend large gatherings or weddings because I chose not to get this experimental vaccine that was associated with a certain kind of side effect profile.
01:07:08.000 And I think, you know, it's but it's that same idea, Russell, that we talked about is like diversity, inclusion and safety and keeping people safe and You know, caring about their lives and their health.
01:07:19.000 It's like all these things, this vaccine mandates and mask mandates and lockdowns and now regulation of social media and internet has been in the guise of helping people and really caring for them.
01:07:31.000 And this is where this is so interesting and kind of misleading and people that are just Kind of doing the surface level analysis, which, you know, if I was working, you know, a daily job nine to five and had kids and was reading the CBC, I might be one of those people too and be like, okay, masks help people, vaccines help people.
01:07:50.000 Of course, let's mandate them.
01:07:51.000 Like, yeah, like we want to save lives.
01:07:52.000 Of course, let's regulate the internet and stop misinformation and uplift minority creators and creators of indigenous and ethnic minority backgrounds, of course.
01:08:01.000 But underneath that, you know, it's that kind of mentality that we saw, we've seen in so many socialist and communist countries like in North Korea, the tyrannical leaders at the time coming in, you know, decades ago and saying, we'll take over your land, and we'll make sure to feed you, we'll make sure you're protected and safe and well fed.
01:08:21.000 And you know, farmers give up their land.
01:08:23.000 And now we're in North Korea, where there's mass starvation, censorship, centralization of authority.
01:08:28.000 It's like all these things, as much as I don't want to sound apocalyptic or hyperbolic in any way at all, and you know, be this guy who's like, the government's going to come down and, you know, come to your door with guns and vaccinate you.
01:08:40.000 Like, I do not want to paint this dystopian picture at all.
01:08:43.000 But increasingly, no matter what I want to think, I've been forced to just be deeply pessimistic and critical of how my government here in Canada and across the West has increasingly moved towards censorship and just violating our core rights of bodily autonomy, which medicines we take, which perspectives we have, and, you know, how we educate our children and kind of, again, those universal values of how we come together and not forcing down, you know, gender ideology and, you know,
01:09:14.000 other views on vaccines or big pharma that all of us can can come together and actually have a shared understanding of okay you know you don't want to take the vaccine that's fine you want to take the vaccine that's great but we don't want to mandate and you know coercively implement these these measures from a in a top-down way where suddenly people are losing jobs over medical decisions that they're making with their own bodies i mean it's it's completely insane Yes, it's insidious to pretend that it is safety and security that motivates these measures.
01:09:48.000 And similarly, I was reflecting then, Rav, when you were speaking, on a broader scale, the phenomena of nationalism.
01:09:56.000 An affinity with a patriotic connection to the nation that you're from would have been cultivated, in fact inculcated, over generations.
01:10:07.000 It's not a natural phenomena to affiliate your personality and your personhood with, in some cases, an arbitrary piece of landmass.
01:10:17.000 At least I'm from an island, for God's sake.
01:10:20.000 So, that had to be taught.
01:10:23.000 People, of course, have tribal connections to one another, and totemic connections to the land that sustains them.
01:10:31.000 Hopefully, and ideally, a sacred connection.
01:10:33.000 Over time, this was mapped onto a broader idea of, you're from this country.
01:10:39.000 And then, what we are currently calling a Schmittian dialectic, based on, I think, Carl Schmitt's Enforcement of the idea that in order to bring people together and unify them, it's helpful to have a group of that is othered, regarded as the outsider group.
01:10:55.000 Over time, we're taught to be patriotic towards the England or Scotland or France or the USA or Canada or Sri Lanka or wherever without reminding ourselves often enough That these are conceptual entities that don't actually exist other than as a set of legislature, a flag, a landmass, and the faith and belief of the people themselves.
01:11:17.000 Then, when it's convenient to suggest, oh, these countries actually only exist in this way, and these countries mean this, and You should be open.
01:11:28.000 You should open your borders now, or this country that was once regarded as an enemy very strongly, now you must regard as a friend, or this country that you regarded as a friend you must now regard as an enemy.
01:11:38.000 some interesting concepts are churning around and the only consistency is, as far as I can
01:11:43.000 see, is that across history these ideas are exploited by people that are in an advanced
01:11:48.000 position or at least an advantageous position within the establishment and then they just
01:11:53.000 utilise these feelings of either alliance or disharmony according to whatever the agenda
01:12:00.000 is at that particular time. There are no actual principles like democracy, self-governance,
01:12:05.000 ability to control your own life, to participate in your own community.
01:12:10.000 Your government exists as an entity of service not an entity of dominion.
01:12:15.000 When you're dealing with your government, you should be talking to a transparent entity
01:12:20.000 that exists only in your service, whether it's law enforcement, and when it comes to
01:12:23.000 media, well, your media should be accountable, investigative, investigate in matters that
01:12:28.000 are meaningful when it comes to power.
01:12:31.000 What you have is a media that amplifies the agenda of the powerful and normalises the
01:12:35.000 agenda of the powerful.
01:12:36.000 We're all going to be locked in our homes now.
01:12:38.000 We're all taking this medication now.
01:12:39.000 These robots are doing these jobs now.
01:12:41.000 We're militarizing the police now.
01:12:43.000 This type of protest is illegal now.
01:12:45.000 They don't ever question or oppose.
01:12:47.000 They just echo the messaging of the powerful.
01:12:50.000 So independent media finds itself right at the nexus of some pretty important conversations because in a way it's unavoidable if you're working in independent media either as a print journalist like yourself, and I know you do other media as well, notably with Jay, Or, whether you're a broadcast or streaming media person like myself and our organisation here, you recognise that in the end what you're doing is political because there's a set of interests that are trying to maintain the centralised model of a century ago, or at least 50 years ago, that's becoming obsolete.
01:13:26.000 The technology actually exists now that you don't need to argue with someone about whether or not you believe in this type of gender ideology or this type of
01:13:33.000 religious ideology or whether to take a medicine or not take a medicine
01:13:37.000 is unnecessary except in so much as it affords the ability to control and shut down dissent
01:13:45.000 and essentially assert control that would otherwise be unthinkable.
01:13:49.000 Yeah, I'm so glad you said that because this light bulb just went off for me.
01:13:55.000 It's like, here in Canada, you know, exactly what you just said, the fact that there's independent media, there's podcasters, there's sub stack newsletters, there's people just becoming, you know, journalists on the spot and giving their hot takes.
01:14:07.000 I mean, there's problems with that too.
01:14:09.000 And people like Sam Harris are particularly worried about that problem of misinformation and people, you know, saying the vaccines are killing everyone and there's 5g and Get in there, Rav.
01:14:18.000 not trusting anything coming out of media ever and they're skeptical of you know there's all sorts
01:14:22.000 of problems with conspiracy theory and people not believing anything and never taking any other
01:14:26.000 vaccine ever again like sure but this is seen as a threat to the people in power is that there is
01:14:33.000 independent media that there are people like rav rora and russell brand if i can fancy a comparison
01:14:39.000 with myself to you get in there rav we're all in this together now mate am i allowed yes
01:14:44.000 Yes, for sure.
01:14:45.000 Yeah, perfect.
01:14:47.000 But it's like, this is seen as so dangerous to these people that otherwise it makes no sense.
01:14:53.000 It's like, it's like in the US, like suddenly Biden says, okay, I got, let's pay the New York Times.
01:14:59.000 Let's, you know, figure out ways to further fund and, you know, impose these bills.
01:15:04.000 Like we had Bill C-11 here in Canada, or rather Bill C-18, where the government tried to force Social media companies to pay this essentially 4% tax fee to media outlets here in Canada for airing their, you know, their articles and their coverage.
01:15:22.000 And Instagram and Meta said, no, we're already giving you this free service.
01:15:26.000 You know, the Globe and Mail, the CBC, Global News here in Canada.
01:15:30.000 They're already getting millions and millions of views and generating so much revenue from our services.
01:15:34.000 We're not going to, you know, pay them back for using our own And as a result of that, which is totally predictable, Canadians can no longer access any media source, American or Canadian, on Instagram and Facebook.
01:15:48.000 Like, literally, if you go on Instagram or Meta right now, if you go on CBC or New York Times, it'll say, unable to be viewed by Canadian users.
01:15:56.000 And it's a complete disaster.
01:15:57.000 But this has happened because this free reign, this diversity of opinion, really, of people questioning the government, questioning these pharmaceutical and biomedical spurious measures and being critical of the censorship regime, that
01:16:13.000 poses a real risk to those in power and they want to clamp down and they want to regulate
01:16:17.000 it.
01:16:17.000 And that's why I feel like underlying all these ideas and measures is this view of,
01:16:25.000 yeah, let's go back to the 1960s and try to regulate podcasts as if this is something
01:16:31.000 that we can regulate like we did several decades ago.
01:16:34.000 It's like, no, no, you just be honest and transparent and your ideas will win, right?
01:16:39.000 Rav Arora, you know, I was never An anti-vaxxer.
01:16:42.000 I never cared about vaccines.
01:16:44.000 I took all the vaccines before.
01:16:45.000 I remember in like grade 12 high school, the flu shot was available.
01:16:49.000 I called my mom, said, oh, the flu shot's here.
01:16:51.000 Can I go get it?
01:16:51.000 She's like, yeah, OK, great.
01:16:52.000 Got the flu shot.
01:16:53.000 But suddenly, I'm now critical of the Trudeau government and skeptical of these measures being forced down our throats without transparency, without an honest conversation about side effects and risks.
01:17:05.000 And the solution to that isn't that you regulate or censor me here in Canada.
01:17:10.000 And by the way, I'll just say, like, I'm genuinely actually kind of worried for what's going to happen because my podcast with Jay, The Illusion of Consensus, I'm the sole proprietor of that.
01:17:19.000 So the podcast is Canada-based, even though, you know, Jay collaborates with me and he's in Stanford in the US.
01:17:25.000 And so, you know, what's going to happen in the future is my podcast is going to be De-amplified or de-boosted because it promotes medical misinformation because we talk a lot about big pharma and about some of the concerns around mRNA vaccines and kind of what the state has recommended in terms of public health but it's like this is kind of where we're going is that people who have these free opinions who are able to voice these expressions and be critical of the government this is seen as a dangerous threat and rather than actually you know taking a look and
01:17:58.000 Engaging in self-reflection of like, okay, what did we do wrong?
01:18:01.000 We promised a vaccine that would stop transmission and it actually didn't.
01:18:05.000 We forced Canadians to stay at home and they couldn't leave their countries.
01:18:08.000 Maybe we shouldn't do that anymore.
01:18:10.000 And then maybe the journalists should actually do the job of actually covering those issues honestly, so that you don't need people like myself.
01:18:20.000 I can pat myself on the back all day long for being, you know, reasonable, interesting and, you know, whatever, good writer, compelling journalist or whatever.
01:18:28.000 But it's like, the reason why I've been successful at this young age and why I've carved out my own kind of niche here in Canadian media is because there isn't enough Honest coverage in the CBC and the Globe and Mail.
01:18:41.000 There aren't enough people like myself writing about vaccine side effects and just the absurdity of mandating vaccines and forcing people out of their jobs, right?
01:18:49.000 If we had a reliable, honest media, there isn't a job for someone like me to come talk to you and have my own publication that people read.
01:18:57.000 There's no point of that, right?
01:18:58.000 But because there's such broad, sweeping, systemic failure across government, pharma, public health, media, And just the way we are organizing our society and approaching information, that's why I think we're seeing this distrust in government and this, on the other hand, rise in independent media platforms like yours.
01:19:17.000 Well done, Rav.
01:19:18.000 It's the natural flow of history.
01:19:20.000 It's the natural flow of revolution.
01:19:22.000 And I think that you're a wonderful part of it and you're such a brilliant Thanks for all of your kind words.
01:19:26.000 Will you join us for another five minutes in our locals community with our awakened wonders there, where we can ask a little bit about their trucker protest and how we're going to bind together, unified but truly diverse, centralised but together, to oppose this apparent attempt to create centralised authoritarian forces.
01:19:46.000 Will you join us for a few minutes?
01:19:49.000 Yes, absolutely.
01:19:51.000 Nice one.
01:19:51.000 Thanks, Rav.
01:19:52.000 OK, so listen, if you're watching this now on Rumble, you can read Rav's work by going to the Illusion of Consensus on Substack.
01:20:00.000 I recommend it very, very strongly.
01:20:02.000 On tomorrow's show, we've got Dr. Bob Gill talking about a corporate power grab in health care.
01:20:08.000 I love talking to Dr. Bob Gill.
01:20:10.000 He's an old school family doctor that has awoken to the problems of corporatism and institutional healthcare based on profiteering.
01:20:19.000 You're going to love that conversation.
01:20:20.000 You're not going to want to miss it.
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