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00:03:31.000So when he was dealing with his son's energy business interest, business energy interest with Ukraine and China, where Trump said, as a matter of fact, on a live debate, your family's been paid millions, Joe Biden said that's absolutely not true.
00:03:54.000But I'll tell you what, one of the reasons he's probably sweating is he's sweating because he doesn't want to debate the other primary candidates.
00:06:27.000Remember, you can listen to this as audio.
00:06:30.000That means you can carry on with your dirty, stinking business.
00:06:32.000Presumably you've all got deals with Burisma.
00:06:34.000You could all be doing your jobs for Burisma while simultaneously watching this show or listening to it down your ear holes.
00:06:41.000Okay, let's have a look at whether or not, now we saw Trump predict that he would be condemned for perspiring that way and sure enough he was.
00:06:49.000This is MSNBC talking about Trump's bodily functions.
00:06:54.000There's new reporting this morning on a secret memo.
00:07:15.000Don't talk about the amounts of people swear.
00:07:18.000I suppose when Trump continually preempts and predicts things that will happen on the mainstream, or is able to declare publicly that Hunter Biden's business dealings are shady, or at least lead to millions of dollars in revenue, they've not been proven to be shady yet.
00:07:31.000Perhaps because the person that's investigating them is Pal of Moderna.
00:08:24.000Why don't you get involved in that conversation?
00:08:26.000And I would suggest in a loving way, because free speech is being attacked, curtailed and
00:08:30.000closed down in myriad new ways, whether it's the WHO's rules there over YouTube, their
00:08:36.000community guidelines will be expanded to include all medical matters.
00:08:39.000And if you're one of our 6.5 million awakening wonders over there, in order to maintain for
00:08:44.000free speech, after just a few more minutes, we're going to slink off into rumble, the
00:08:48.000shadowy world where free speech flourishes, where it grows abundantly, like them hanging
00:08:54.000gardens of Babylon, baby, tumbling down honeysuckles of truth.
00:08:59.000When you have a look at this bit of, let's call it broadcasting from CNN, it sort of elides almost effortlessly into what we, me and Gareth here think is insidious hypnotism.
00:09:09.000They start reporting on Trump being right about Hunter's business dealings in the 2020 presidential debates with Biden.
00:09:20.000Now look, if you were trying to indict Donald Trump right now, This would be some very unhelpful footage because you see on camera it looks to me like Donald Trump telling the truth and Joe Biden lying.
00:09:33.000Look at how the mainstream media cover this.
00:09:36.000Glenn Kessler from the Washington Post had a fact check about Joe Biden from earlier this month noting that Hunter Biden admitted in court in July That he was in fact paid substantial sums from Chinese companies.
00:09:49.000Kessler wrote Hunter Biden reported nearly $2.4 million in income in 2017 and $2.2 million in income in 2018, most of which came from Chinese or Ukrainian interests.
00:09:59.000And this directly goes against what Joe Biden said in the debate in 2020 with Donald Trump.
00:11:36.000We nearly stopped playing the titles again, which will be trouble on YouTube, because Tricky, the great British Bristol-born genius that wrote those lyrics and that entire song that's our theme tune, we're not allowed to play that on YouTube.
00:11:47.000Every time I hear it, I get a little bit angry.
00:11:53.000He makes all sorts of claims about a particular three-syllable drug, four-syllable drug, that could fend off the Naughty famous cough with barely any effort.
00:13:31.000We've got to talk about Moderna making that $400 million payment to the NIH.
00:13:36.000We've got to talk about in our country, the UK, this fella, former British medical officer, who goes by the name of Jonathan Van Tam, whose name is too similar to both Jean-Claude Van Damme And Jonathan Van Ness, our Queer Eye, you've got to have a name that's a bit more unique and a bit less confusing.
00:13:55.000But old Van Tam, Chief Medical Officer, part of his job during the pandemic was recommending that we all take Moderna vaccines.
00:14:04.000By some extraordinary giddy little coincidence, he's gone to work at Moderna.
00:14:08.000Well, he also worked before he took on that role with the government.
00:14:12.000But the idea that that involves some sort of corruption or a revolving door would make you and everyone you love a conspiracy theorist.
00:14:20.000We're going to get into that story with a little more depth.
00:14:23.000If you're watching us on YouTube, remember, we've got Faz Shakir coming on, and I'm going to be asking Faz about how he feels about a Democrat party that shuts down populist and even popular candidates like Bernie Sanders.
00:14:34.000We know for a fact The Democrats would rather have lost to Trump than won with Bernie.
00:14:39.000They push legacy career politicians and it seems now that these career politicians, if you look around them, they've got all sorts of aliases, they've got dodgy funds, there's Russiagate scandals, not Russellgate scandals, that's one thing we can learn.
00:15:06.000And if you're watching this on Rumble, why don't you press the red button?
00:15:09.000Enjoying these beautiful people in the Locals conversation.
00:15:12.000As well as being part of a free-speaking community over there in Locals, you get podcasts, you get access to a special... I'm actually, even now, involved in the design of a pair of underpants that you will be sent.
00:15:47.000So Moderna's paid the government $400 million.
00:15:49.000dollars. Should we have a look at that? Should we have a look
00:15:52.000at that hearing in Australia? One of the things you'll love if
00:15:55.000you're a global citizen is the easy casual way that Australia
00:15:59.000do government. Yes, of course, they're willing to pilot peculiar schemes. Like what were they piloting last week in
00:16:04.000Australia? World coin or something like that? Oh, yeah, they're shutting down people's currencies. Also, they sort
00:16:09.000of piloted some pretty shady internment camps during the
00:16:12.000pandemic period. Certainly a lot of our community said they were
00:16:15.000treated appallingly in Australia. Well, now those chicken to come home a root.
00:16:19.000There's an inquiry going on about Moderna's conduct at expenditure, and in particular, Moderna's liability, i.e.
00:16:28.000if Moderna's products, in particular the vaccine, caused injury, and there's significant reports that they did and do, did they put aside any money for liability to compensate the variously injured Australians affected by that product?
00:16:43.000Let's have a look at that hearing now.
00:16:46.000Does Moderna plough back into helping people who are injured by the vaccine?
00:17:00.000Now look how long it takes them to not get to none, right?
00:17:03.000The answer is, like, in a very Australian... Now listen, mate, I'm going to lean in and I'm going to ask you in a slightly woozy way, like we're at a barbecue.
00:17:10.000And we could be chatting about cricket.
00:17:14.000We just happened to be chatting about Moderna.
00:17:16.000Now, how much money did you put aside for vaccine injuries?
00:17:18.000The answer is, we didn't put any aside, because all of it's profits, and you remember, when we manufactured the vaccines, deals were done to grant us indemnity, so in the event that there were injuries, the government would be liable, and taxpayers would have paid for the development of those drugs, the purchase of those drugs, and now, out of court, presumably, settlements for the injuries caused by those drugs.
00:18:24.000That's what that... Alright, well that clears that up then.
00:18:26.000That's just the whole of the world we live in, isn't it?
00:18:28.000A world where you know that people take jobs in government after working at Moderna, then get another job after being in government recommending Moderna products and going to work for Moderna again.
00:18:39.000You know that the world's made up of hearings like this, where there's prevarication, obfuscation and avoidance instead of plain justice.
00:18:46.000So when you see someone like Donald Trump, and in particular Donald Trump, on your TV set saying, Hunter Biden was given millions of dollars by That is a lie!
00:19:56.000Mate, before you go any further, look, you're getting perilously close to revealing the truth of the degree of corruption that's been involved in this entire pandemic for Argo.
00:20:04.000So could we talk about something else?
00:20:06.000I mean, Oh, what's the point in this anyway?
00:20:08.000Should we just all go outside and enjoy ourselves?
00:21:06.000He was called Brideshead Revisited, and this kid had a bright future, but then he went out of line, and he mentioned vaccines, and do you know what he's doing now?
00:21:14.000Flipping pennies for blowjobs under a bridge, oh man!
00:21:19.000Andrew Bridgeton was his name, it's up on the screen now.
00:21:21.000Let's have a look at these Aussies mucking around with sweet lady justice.
00:25:02.000It'd be a very different video though if Paul did actually take his trousers and pants off and I mean it would, you'd start to get uncomfortable pretty quickly.
00:25:29.000Get away, what if a guest comes in, Paul?
00:25:31.000...on this toilet, because I learned that toilet paper, paper towels, all kinds of paper products that we use contain BPA and other xenoestrogens, and I don't want to rub my butt with that.
00:25:41.000No way, I don't want ecosestrians up my pipe, do you mate?
00:26:17.000I thought what we were... What we were sold, Gareth, is this guy... Basically, he's shit don't stink, weren't we?
00:26:22.000We were sold that this guy, what comes out of his butthole is so pristine, he doesn't even need to wipe it.
00:26:27.000Just a fully formed, perfect little...
00:26:30.000not even touch like he can relax his bumhole so open like that it just sort of drops out
00:26:34.000like as if he's doing a drug run like he's just been down to El Salvador
00:26:39.000picked up a key and then just drops it above the Louisiana swamps and then the hillbillies can pick
00:26:45.000it up there and distribute Paul Saladino's poop and nothing's hit the sides nothing's hit the sides
00:26:50.000you could eat your dinner off Paul Saladino's bumhole That's what we were promised, that you could sit down there and eat your dinner out of Paul Saladino's... And yet, is that the fact?
00:28:39.000Listen, we better provide some cartilage because I can't go straight to Fad Shakir, a serious political figure who's organizing unions, who brokered the deal between Christian Smalls and Joe Biden's government, who advises Bernie Sanders.
00:28:50.000I can't go straight from Paul Saladino's Butthole party straight to a serious political figure.
00:28:57.000Let's get RFK on now as you know, unless you've been living in a cave with Paul Saladino Like you will be aware that me and RFK are locked in a battle not only of wits But a battle of biceps and lats we're raising money in order to like for his campaign fund I'm supporting him and I'm gonna have a pull-up competition against him.
00:29:17.000He's trying to goad me He trash-talking me pretty bad.
00:29:21.000Let's have a look at his trash talking video.
00:29:34.000I want you to note that he's doing those pull-ups with his fingers.
00:29:37.000Like a mountain climber, like Alex Harnon or whatever he's called, that geezer that does free climbs up El Capitan without even trying his hardest.
00:29:59.000I don't have to remind you we had a $100,000 deal here.
00:30:02.000If we raise $100,000, you and I are going mano a mano on the pull-up bar.
00:30:06.000I have already, to a degree, committed to help raise funds for your campaign, Bobby, through a pull-up challenge, which is seeming increasingly ill-advised.
00:31:07.000OK, listen, one of the things that's becoming plain is that the world is demanding alternative political candidates.
00:31:15.000And even though Bobby Kennedy comes from a legacy family, his rhetoric is anything but.
00:31:21.000Being aware of the Bernie Sanders campaign the last time and how it was, I would say, shut down by the Democrat Party establishment is, I would say, a serious obstacle to their ongoing electability.
00:31:32.000And even if they are elected, what does it mean for ordinary people who care about America?
00:31:38.000Seems to me that you get an institutionalized, donor-led political establishment that can't respond to the will of the very Americans that apparently elected it.
00:31:49.000He is the advisor to Bernie Sanders and head of non-profit More Perfect Union, an organization that champions workers' rights and their voices, which is obviously extremely important.
00:32:02.000All right, Russell, I'll try to match your energy.
00:32:04.000I'm not sure I can, but good to see you.
00:32:06.000I'm actually exhausted just from watching Bobby doing those fingertip pull-ups.
00:32:10.000What do you feel about the state of the party that I assume you align with?
00:32:15.000Of course, because of their attitude to unions, the way they reneged on their commitment during the East Palestine crisis, the way that Joe Biden publicly claims to be the friend of the unions, while in practice does very little to help ordinary working Americans.
00:32:29.000And more broadly how do you feel about a Democrat party that seems married to legacy politicians from the Clinton dynasty in particular and unwilling to respond to what seems to me to be a huge appetite for real change?
00:33:13.000But yeah, you got to be realistic that is it what we want?
00:33:16.000No, but I'm invested in trying to make it better.
00:33:20.000I understand that, and I actually deeply respect it as a matter of fact.
00:33:24.000But Bernie, of course, was independent for the longest of times.
00:33:27.000Do you feel that what's happened to Bernie ever since he's become a member of the Democrat Party demonstrates the efficacy of bipartisan politics, or exactly the opposite?
00:33:36.000Russell, isn't that what happens anytime you get involved in trying to transact power?
00:33:41.000You make a decision that you have to engage in the institutions as they are, and they do by their nature.
00:33:47.000A lot of the status quo is corrupting of a kind.
00:33:49.000You have people who take Make money from big donors.
00:33:53.000You have people willing to cater to corporate lobbyists.
00:33:55.000And then here comes Bernie as an iconoclast saying, I don't give a shit about any of that stuff, but I got to work with these bastards who do.
00:34:02.000I got to work a way to transact a paid sick days or minimum wage increase or whatever it might be.
00:35:36.000They start to figure out, okay, we're going to stand with some working people and go to a picket line and send the Secretary of Labor there.
00:35:41.000We're going to stand with Amazon organizing workers.
00:35:44.000Some of those things, in my mind, are worth it.
00:35:46.000They are worth investing in that direction as opposed to a different one that says, I don't give a damn about any of that stuff.
00:35:54.000And I think you do have generally a Republican Party that doesn't believe that we want to invest in government doing these kinds of things.
00:36:01.000I mean, if you take like Medicare price negotiation right now, you've got four drug makers and
00:36:06.000Chamber of Commerce and Pharma all filing lawsuits saying it's unconstitutional, you
00:36:16.000And I'm very much on the side of, yeah, we're going to negotiate drug prices down.
00:36:20.000You mentioned Moderna, and Bernie Hall, the CEO of Moderna, into that committee hearing, said, you know, they jacked up the price of COVID vaccine by 400 percent, charged American taxpayers billions of dollars to create the vaccine, screwed basically public investments, said, we don't give a damn about you.
00:36:36.000The question this day and age is, are you willing to stand up to corporate power?
00:36:54.000I want more of those types of Bernies.
00:36:56.000Unfortunately, there aren't many of them.
00:36:59.000From our chat now Faz, Purple Revolution says Bernie Sanders is largely seen as a sellout these days and I think that's someone that would broadly speaking being a fan of 2016 Bernie.
00:37:10.000Miles Driver says anarchy has a bad rap.
00:37:13.000I think that's because of the sort of constant correlation of anarchy with disorder rather than a truly democratic and decentralized model.
00:37:21.000And PrideFault says the system must be changed.
00:37:25.000Why do you think prominent progressives, Faz, like AOC and Bernie, won't endorse Cornel
00:37:31.000West despite his obvious emphasis on progressive ideals, albeit while standing outside of that
00:37:39.000Well, Russell, you know the answer to that.
00:37:40.000I think for all of the concern that they have about a Democratic Party that they don't find is standing up against corporate power and standing up for workers enough, it's a better choice than one in which, you know, you have a two-party system, so the choice is dis-Democratic Party or Trump-led Republican Party.
00:37:55.000If a third party like Cornel West or anybody else enters the fold, In my view, and people can feel free to disagree with it, it just facilitates one or the other.
00:38:04.000And I think you've got, in that case, Trump having a very hardcore base of people who I don't think believe him.
00:38:12.000So then you're, I think, pulling votes from a Democratic Party and enabling Donald Trump.
00:38:16.000When you... I know loads of people in here just absolutely adore Donald Trump because they precisely believe that he is the anti-establishment voice and with every rolling indictment they just see that as a sort of a further medallion on his credentials as an anti-establishment figure and I feel like when a democrat party plainly operates at the end of a string pulled by a donor class when Joe Biden says to a room full of donors nothing's gonna fundamentally change if you elect me In a sense, they're right to opt for a Berserker candidate, whilst I strongly believe what's required is systemic change, and I don't think there's anyone in the political landscape except, you know, I love RFK, I love Cornel West, I was, you know, inspired by Bernie in 2016, and I recognise, Faz, that you know a lot more about this stuff than I do, but what's required
00:39:02.000is a kind of marriage between the radicalism of independent media and political spaces like this
00:39:07.000one and meaningful change within the system. Now one area, Faz, where you are plainly committed
00:39:13.000based on that unions for all banner or t-shirt that's in frame is rights for workers. How do
00:39:21.000you advocate for unionism and unions to our audience here?
00:39:29.000Can you tell us about some of the successes?
00:39:43.000What else should we do to support the union movement?
00:39:45.000See, you know, this time massive income inequality, the only way in which people get their fair share of workers, they have to organize in solidarity and fight for it.
00:39:54.000And we've got class warfare in this damn country.
00:39:56.000It has been the rich class dominating and controlling a working class.
00:40:01.000And unfortunately, the elites have driven the working class to a place where the only way in which you can get anything is with a damn fight.
00:40:07.000And so unionization in this country, although it could be more amicable and peaceful, I wish it were, that you could have peaceful labor-management relations.
00:40:14.000Right now, we've gotten the middle finger from most corporate CEOs towards the working class, the working class saying, hey, take a look at UPS workers, right?
00:40:21.000They just say, we have to threaten to strike.
00:40:23.000United Auto Workers right now, they're right in the midst of a contract, they're threatening to strike.
00:40:27.000Hollywood workers right now, actors, writers, all On strike because they know.
00:40:36.000You felt contempt towards working people, contempt towards essential work, contempt, dishonor, disrespected for the fact that you were putting yourself out there.
00:40:44.000And now the only way in which you can do anything to improve your lot in life is take matters into your own hands.
00:40:51.000Say, hey, in this damn Starbucks here, in this damn Staten Island warehouse here, in this Apple warehouse, we are going to Talk to our colleagues and demand more.
00:41:02.000And thankfully, in this last two years, we've seen a rise of that.
00:41:04.000You get Trader Joe's, you have, as I mentioned, Apple and Starbucks, Amazon.
00:41:08.000But they're not getting first contracts because the domination of the corporate sphere is unbelievable.
00:41:14.000It's not only of the economy, it's of the political class.
00:41:16.000So there is not a fight, and people just don't talk about these damn things.
00:41:20.000You know, the whole purpose of a union and worker solidarity, Russell is like, What is the purpose of life?
00:41:26.000Is life just to generate profit or is it to have a sense of meaning and accomplishment, to feel respected, to feel like I do something purposeful and then I get paid for it?
00:41:35.000And we've lost that thread in civic society.
00:41:41.000And I agree with you that decentralized and democratic models and control over workspaces and a life of meaning that goes way beyond what you have to do just to survive in the face of a nihilistic and increasingly amoral cultural environment is an important part of that.
00:41:56.000If you're watching us on Rumble right now, give us a rumble!
00:41:59.000But for God's sake, subscribe to our channel!
00:42:01.000Join us over on Locals and you can ask whatever questions you want And I'll do my best to get through as many as I can.
00:42:07.000What do you think, Faz, about the alleged corruption between Hunter and Joe Biden when it comes to his business dealings with Burisma?
00:42:14.000What do you think about the way the Democrat establishment kept those things off of social media?
00:42:18.000And how can we restore any faith when there's, you know, in particular, just relating to this story?
00:42:25.000And how can we support a president that won't even debate progressive candidates, truly progressive candidates like RFK?
00:42:31.000Russell, it's not complicated what's going on.
00:42:33.000You got a guy who made tens of millions of dollars in Hunter Biden off of the fact that his last name is Biden.
00:42:38.000And it's like, this kind of, the scandal is that the corruption is always there.
00:42:42.000A rich class, an elite class, a well-connected class, their sons, their daughters, take, you know, the Bush family sons, the, you know, you take the, you know, obviously the Trump family son, Jared Kushner's got a $2 billion deal with the Society of Royal Prince.
00:42:56.000This kind of access to capital, to money, is always there for people who are in the well-connected, connected political elite class.
00:43:02.000That's what should be angering to everybody that they don't have an access to this
00:43:06.000and people are taking advantage of them.
00:43:08.000So it's obviously Hunter Biden is just one case, Jared Kushner is another, there's a lot of them.
00:43:13.000And so like to my mind, this is where maybe you and I disagree,
00:43:17.000is that Joe Biden's own ethics, I think are better than his son's.
00:43:21.000I think when he was in Congress from 73 to 2008, right?
00:43:26.000Never traded a stock in that whole period of time.
00:43:28.000Think of how rich he could have gotten off of trading Lockheed or owning Amazon.
00:43:34.000Because he's like, no, my service is to be for the public and I can't, I won't be compromised by owning stocks and making money off of that.
00:43:41.000So you end up becoming one of the poorer senators.
00:43:43.000But his values are not reflected in the way Hunter goes about his, And so, you know, it's a travesty, but I also think there's a little bit of a both sides-erism there, Russell, to be honest with you.
00:43:54.000It's like, you know, is Hunter making tens of millions of dollars as bad as, you know, X, Y, and Z?
00:44:01.000And you see these kinds of like apples and apples types of comparisons that don't really line up, but it's bad, right?
00:44:09.000Baz, I really admire your determination to do something positive within the system, and I strongly support the work you're doing to get workers to organise and unionise and take power back into their own hands, because I agree with you, the establishment elites aren't going to do anything about it.
00:44:26.000I obviously don't agree with you about Joe Biden, you know, because I just, I've been sort of blown away by the level of corruption that I've witnessed, but I completely obviously respect your perspective.
00:44:56.000I mean, I appreciate everything you just said, Russ.
00:44:57.000The way you framed it and the way I firmly believe.
00:45:00.000If you said something, talking about somebody's bumhole or whatever, and that might not be my cup of tea, I'm saying, I can respect disagreement.
00:45:45.000Bullshit, like, rancorous, partisan disagreements that are nonsense, but just, like, honestly, having an honest conversation is so hard to have now.
00:45:52.000I agree with you, Faz, on so much, and thank you very much for taking the time, unlike many people that are part of the establishment that you are, you know, whilst being critical of, you are being optimistic about.
00:46:02.000I respect that very much, and I appreciate you coming on, and you can support Faz's work by going to perfectunion.us, particularly if you, you know, like, remember what he said about every Starbucks, every Staten Island warehouse?
00:46:14.000Those things, I think, are Very important.
00:46:16.000And, you know, like he said, we should be able to disagree with one another.
00:47:19.000Me and Gareth as a couple of cops who might see the world different, but by God, we get the job done with a little help from my friends, y'all.
00:50:04.000Was Ukraine some kind of silicone valley for bioweapons?
00:50:08.000And what's the connection between gain-of-function research and bioweapons?
00:50:13.000RFK's got some interesting things to say.
00:50:17.000Today we're talking about Tucker Carlson's conversation with RFK in which RFK spoke about the biolabs in Ukraine.
00:50:24.000Now remember at the beginning of the Ukraine-Russia conflict in conspiracy land lots of people saying there's bioweapons over there, there's biolabs, people are making bioweapons and that was one of those things that got sort of shut down.
00:50:33.000Then it started to be incrementally built upon in a slightly more diplomatic way like what about that That Victoria Nuland, she's worked for successive administrations and she was involved in the 2014 events in Ukraine that led to that change of government, don't call it a coup.
00:50:47.000So we're starting to see more and more, I believe, the intersection of giddy wild conspiracy theories and then sort of rather more mundane bureaucratic manipulation and frankly what amounts to American foreign policy.
00:50:58.000Using various sites across the world to create either pharmaceutical opportunity, let's call it, or bioweapons.
00:51:07.000And is there an intersection between gain-of-function research and bioweapons?
00:51:12.000In short, is gain-of-function research essentially about creating bioweapons?
00:51:17.000As I understand gain-of-function research is by taking something that goes an horrible nasty little virus.
00:51:37.000We have bio labs in Ukraine because we're developing bioweapons.
00:51:41.000And those bio-weapons are using all kinds of new synthetic biology and CRISPR technology and genetic engineering techniques that were not available to previous generations.
00:51:53.000And they can make frightening, frightening stuff.
00:51:56.000A top line consideration is whether or not you want bioweapons being developed.
00:52:01.000Are we not already in a precipitous state when it comes to global warfare?
00:52:04.000Don't we already have enough nuclear weapons to annihilate the planet many times over?
00:52:08.000Have we not recently seen the dangers of meddling in nature's domain?
00:52:12.000If you believe the Wuhan lab leak theory, for example, which hasn't been proven yet but seems increasingly likely, Is probably in some way or another funded by your tax dollars, bioweapons.
00:52:22.000I don't know how else they're functioning.
00:52:24.000I don't know if they're doing fun runs or sort of car washes to raise money for these bioweapons.
00:52:29.000Presumably it's coming from American taxpayers at some point.
00:52:31.000When do we get to ask fundamental questions about how we want our civilization to be run?
00:52:36.000We just accept the fact that we're subject to the whims of global corporatism.
00:52:40.000That's what much of the frustration and tension is, I believe, that's not even articulately expressed.
00:52:45.000When you're dismissive of, like, MAGA people in their caps or people protesting for a whole host of reasons in the streets of the United States, there's a sense that things aren't right, things ain't fair, these institutions don't care about us, they're not listening, I'm angry.
00:52:58.000And just because you can't say what it is really is global corporations have taken over our democratic institutions, spend money abroad on things I don't care about and might actually be detrimental not only to my life but the life of the planet itself and I'm sick of it.
00:53:25.000These biolabs, they're not dangerous, there's nothing to worry about.
00:53:28.000Why don't you want the Russians getting your hands on them then?
00:53:30.000Well, the Russians, you can't trust those guys.
00:53:33.000If in those biolabs all they're doing is racing mice through a maze, why are they so worried about the Russians getting in?
00:53:38.000Do you know what the Russians getting in there?
00:53:40.000What if they meddle with my most favourite mouses?
00:53:43.000They can't simultaneously be doing innocuous and innocent mouse experiments in those biolabs and be really worried that the Russians are going to get in there, can they?
00:53:51.000When the Patriot Act reopened the bioweapons arms race in 2001, the Pentagon began putting a lot of money into bioweapons, but they were nervous at that time.
00:54:02.000Because if you violate Geneva, the Geneva Convention, it's a hanging offense.
00:54:07.000And they weren't sure that that Provision in the Patriot Act would actually hold up as a loophole to treaties that had been ratified by Congress.
00:54:17.000So they were nervous about actually going full force into bioweapons development.
00:54:22.000So they transferred the authority for biosecurity to one agency in the HHS, called the National Institute for Infectious and Allergic Diseases, run by Anthony Fauci.
00:54:36.000So Anthony Fauci got all the responsibility for bioweapons development.
00:54:41.000He got at that time a 68% raise from the Pentagon in order to do that work.
00:54:48.000When you hear a story like that you realize there's more to political corruption within American governmental institutions than just Donald Trump saying that he won an election that other people say he didn't win.
00:55:01.000It seems there's more complexity to it because you don't I really want someone who's in charge of a medical and health organization, taking huge funds, getting huge pay rises, involved in gain-of-function research, involved in things that might be bioweapons that take their funding from confusing agencies, that have relationships with big pharma.
00:55:18.000That's not the kind of clarity that we could have in our institutions, and I would argue should have.
00:55:23.000This is a health organization, so what do they do?
00:55:25.000Well, they're solely focused on the well-being, welfare, and good health of American people.
00:55:30.000Also on the side, they're making terrifying weapons.
00:55:33.000And do you notice that the Patriot Act was almost like the COVID of its age?
00:55:37.000There was a massive crisis and emergency in the form of the 9-11 attacks, and it was utilized to introduce a raft of regulation that meant that we could be surveilled, that meant that we could be censored, that meant we could be observed, that meant that people could be arrested for espionage under what increasingly looked like questionable circumstances.
00:55:53.000And also, somehow, they went we're going to start a bunch of biolabs.
00:55:56.000Is it likely, let me know in the comments in the chat below, that the Covid pandemic was
00:56:01.000used in a similar way to introduce regulations, legislations and ideas that previously people would have
00:56:06.000rejected out of hand as being an infringement on our civil rights. When there's an emergency
00:56:10.000or a crisis it's used to create opportunities and the Patriot Act, you know, which pertains
00:56:14.000to an event 22 years ago now, is still being utilised to respond to what? Saddam Hussein
00:56:19.000still might have weapons of mass destruction?
00:56:35.000So in order to deploy one offensively, you need a vaccine to counter it.
00:56:40.000So you need to vaccinate your team before you deploy it.
00:56:43.000Is this one of those moments where we could step back as a species and say, are we heading in the right direction?
00:56:48.000We've got laboratories where one part of the laboratory goes, we're going to invent the most lethal, deadly, awful weapons to destroy the lives of innocent people abroad who we temporarily at this time don't agree with.
00:56:59.000You guys over there, come up with a vaccine for that because it's inevitable, 100% likely in fact, that we're all going to get sick from this crazy thing.
00:57:12.000Well, there's bound to be some splashback.
00:57:14.000Those two things are developed through a field of science called gain-of-function science, where you take an infectious microbe, and you amplify its infectivity.
00:57:27.000Or you make it jump species, so it may kill monkeys, now you make it kill humans.
00:57:32.000And you adopt it that way, and there's all kinds of methods, and then you make it immune When I hear that explained, it's like if someone explained the concept of the monarchy to me now.
00:57:47.000Like, you know, what we're going to do is we're going to get a microbe that's deadly, that's killing monkeys.
00:58:17.000Maybe we can have it a bit different, but not much.
00:58:20.000For 2,800 years since Hippocrates, doctors have been trying to figure out how to make microbes less infectious and less deadly and develop antibiotics and therapeutics to do that.
00:58:31.000Well, the guys who are involved in this, there's 36,000.
00:58:36.000What are called life scientists, but they're actually death scientists, um, who are now employed full-time in developing, you know, microbes that will, can be used to kill people.
00:59:18.000Create biolabs in an unstable territory adjacent to a historic enemy?
00:59:23.000You can't rule it out, can you, as a possibility?
00:59:25.000This will probably get called conspiracy theory, fake news.
00:59:27.000It certainly did a few years ago, or at the beginning of the pandemic era, and the beginning of the war, and all this constant rolling, never-ending crisis that will seem to be snowballing into one another now, like gain-of-function research.
00:59:38.000It's like, get a news story, make it a bit worse, here's your new news story!
00:59:43.000According to Kennedy, the bioweapons program has operated under the guise of life sciences research, such as gain-of-function experiments on viruses and other pathogens, ultimately overseen by Dr. Anthony Fauci, who headed the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases between 1984 and 2022.
00:59:59.000At the beginning of this, he gave so many public speeches and appearances that were sort of conciliatory and consoling, like he was just sort of Uncle Anthony Fauci.
01:00:34.000This is what happens when you have massive, centralised, authoritarian, globalist, corporatist systems that never ask people, the very people that are funding it, whether what they're doing is what those people want.
01:00:45.000And that applies to this ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia, research of this nature, the response to the pandemic, institutions like the WHO and NATO.
01:00:53.000You might not want them, but you're funding them.
01:00:55.000I think we should have political parties that are going, listen, do you want this stuff?
01:00:57.000Because some of it seems very corrupt.
01:00:59.000Because I don't know anyone who's like, I love paying taxes!
01:01:02.000At best, you're like, I pay my taxes because it's the law.
01:01:05.000And I hope on some level it's helping people, like kids or hospitals or something.
01:01:17.000You're racing mice through mazes in Kiev.
01:01:19.000When some of these bugs escaped from laboratories in the US back in 2014, the Obama administration banned gain-of-function research, Kennedy added, so Fauci outsourced it overseas.
01:01:29.000Well, that can't lead to any problems unless there's a war and it leaks out of the labs because they're not properly looked after.
01:01:34.000Hopefully, all that information isn't somehow being lost.
01:01:38.000A lot of them went to Ukraine, Kennedy told Carson.
01:01:40.000I don't really want to hear Ukraine connected to anything other than there's this war there where Russia criminally invaded them and there's a humanitarian effort to support the people of Ukraine.
01:01:53.000But then you sort of hear, oh god, another thing about Ukraine you should know, the president's son's got all sorts of really favourable deals with their energy company.
01:02:00.000The American government have got a bunch of biolabs over there.
01:02:03.000I mean, like, what's next about Ukraine are we going to learn?
01:02:06.000A lot of them went to Ukraine, Kennedy told Carlson, while some of the researchers moved to Wuhan, China Laboratory, the suspected origination point for the COVID-19 pandemic.
01:02:14.000Like, these are the sort of places that are on the news a lot, aren't they?
01:02:40.000So the deep state fund secondary agencies to subcontract out to opaque, obscure Endeavors that are difficult to understand and inventory.
01:02:51.000Certainly it's not the kind of transparency and clarity that Joe Biden was promising when he marched gleefully into office, is it?
01:02:57.000The US has long dismissed claims about the biological research laboratories in Ukraine as Russian propaganda, until senior State Department official Victoria Newland confirmed their existence at a 2022 Senate hearing.
01:03:08.000The Pentagon continues to insist the research is neither illegal nor intended for military purposes.
01:03:13.000Okay, so it's just, we're just doing some research in Ukraine.
01:03:15.000Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
01:03:19.000Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to Isn't it odd what malevolence looks like these days?
01:03:38.000Just a nice friendly looking woman in a cardigan talking about biolabs in Ukraine and the concern that Russia might get hold of it while nervously fiddling with her pen.
01:03:48.000In this also is the modern assumption that there's nothing wrong with biolabs when America's in control of them, but if Russia's in control of them, suddenly they're bad.
01:03:57.000Either cluster bombs and biolabs are bad, or they're not.
01:04:01.000And we have to recognise that this is the kind of nihilism and lack of principles that's leading to the general dystopic feelings of a society falling apart that many of us are experiencing even beyond the confines of this mad conflict.
01:04:14.000If there's nothing to worry about in those biolabs, why is it a problem if Russia gets there?
01:04:17.000So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.
01:04:30.000What you're being asked to believe is that there's some fundamental difference between American research and Russian conduct.
01:04:36.000Like the Americans Come on, guys, let's just create some new medicines to help everybody.
01:04:40.000Let's make this virus a bit worse, then make a vaccine so we can just help people.
01:04:52.000Innocent purpose and then Russia is the agent of change and malevolence is plainly a pretty secretive and Malfeasance endeavor that takes place on foreign soil because under the Obama administration it was decreed to be too dangerous to do in America So they as part of their deal presumably of supporting the 2014 coup that Victoria Newlands was by coincidence involved with They're able to continue doing at least gain-of-function research, which, according to RFK, is synonymous with creating weapons.
01:05:20.000And in a way, if gain-of-function means you take a biological substance and you give it the ability to cross species, or you make it more infectious and bad and just hope to God that those guys in Wuhan are washing their hands and keeping the windows shut, that is a type of weapon.
01:05:42.000Nuland's bizarre admission that Ukraine has biological research facilities that are dangerous enough to warrant concern that they could fall into Russian hands ironically constituted more decisive evidence of the existence of such programs in Ukraine than what was offered in 2002 and 2003 to corroborate US allegations about Saddam's chemical and biological programs in Iraq.
01:06:03.000Wow, that's more evidence than the world went to war on 20 years ago.
01:06:09.000Any attempt to claim that Ukraine's biological facilities are just benign and standard medical labs is negated by Newland's explicitly grave concern that Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of those facilities and that the US government therefore is right this minute working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.
01:06:29.000What we're being invited to believe is with an entirely innocent enterprise, but actually though,
01:06:33.000the Russians, they'd be able to put this in that jar and switch that on and turn on
01:06:36.000the Bunsen burner and knock over the mouse's cage and oh no, they've got a missile.
01:06:41.000That's what we're being invited to believe.
01:06:43.000And there's no doubt that a bad person or a bad set of people could use almost anything
01:06:49.000to create chaos, but what I'm arguing is that the bad people are already doing that and
01:06:54.000The only reason to be quite concerned about these biological research facilities falling
01:06:58.000into Russian hands is if they contain sophisticated materials that Russian scientists have not
01:07:02.000yet developed on their own and which could be used for nefarious purposes, i.e. either
01:07:06.000either advanced biological weapons or dual-use research that has the potential to be weaponized.
01:07:10.000You see how we're all having to develop this new vocabulary and get this new education?
01:07:13.000When I first heard dual-use research, it was reading RFK's book, and at that point it was like, oh god, this is a bit out there, isn't it?
01:07:20.000Even though it's obviously really thoroughly researched and actually quite dense, it's not a frivolous piece of writing, it's just some of the concepts and ideas in there are so out there, you think, that can't be true.
01:07:28.000And then you just, a few weeks later, you read it in the news or you see a congressional hearing and you go, we're a bit I'm worried about some of the stuff in the labs we might have left over there if that fell into the wrong hands.
01:07:38.000I guess what I'm saying is now my starting point is they're probably up to some malevolent shit and they're probably gonna lie about it.
01:07:44.000We probably have to break down all of these agencies and have a real overview of what it means to be America or the United Kingdom or whatever your country is.
01:07:54.000Who is it now we're supposed to be scared of?
01:07:57.000Who's scarier than these lunatics that are there doing gain-of-function research and dual research and creating these labs and then having to admit oh sorry we were involved in 2014 and oh yes we did have bio labs?
01:08:07.000The only way you could trust them is if on day one of the war Joe Biden had gone listen this is a bit mental actually because like Ukraine and Russia you can see there's an escalating tension there and Well I think, morally, we should support Ukraine because they're decent people and Russia are the aggressor in this instance.
01:08:19.000I've got to be honest though, we provoked them in 2014, we reneged on a deal we had not to infringe on former Soviet Union territories, we've got biolabs in Ukraine we're going to have to be double careful of, and one of my kids has got a cracking job at Burisma.
01:08:31.000So now that it's all coming out I think, you fucking liars!
01:08:34.000What is in those Ukrainian biological labs that makes them so worrisome and dangerous?
01:08:38.000And did the US assistance extend to construction and development to the biological research facilities themselves?
01:08:43.000All we're doing over there is making L'Oreal lipsticks for little mice.
01:08:48.000And those labs are just mice and rabbits smothered in lipstick.
01:08:51.000But if the Russians get hold of those sexy mice and rabbits, there's no telling what they'll do.
01:08:56.000The indisputable reality is that despite long-standing international conventions banning development of biological weapons, all large powerful countries conduct research that At the very least, has the capacity to be converted into biological weapons.
01:09:08.000The work conducted under the guise of defensive research can, and sometimes is, easily converted into the banned weapons themselves.
01:09:15.000Recall that according to the FBI, the 2001 Amfrax attacks that terrorized the nation came from a U.S.
01:09:20.000Army research scientist, Dr. Bruce Evans, working at the U.S.
01:09:24.000Army's infectious disease research lab in Fort Detrick, Maryland.
01:09:28.000The claim was that the army was merely conducting defensive research to find vaccines and other protections against weaponised anthrax, but to do so, the army had to create highly weaponised anthrax strains, which Ivins then unleashed as a weapon.
01:09:40.000The lesson about the severe dangers of so-called dual-use research into biological weapons was relearned over the last two years as a result of the Covid pandemic.
01:09:48.000While the origins of that virus have not yet been proven with this positive evidence, Though remember, fact checkers declared early on it was definitively established that it came from species jumping and that any suggestion of a lab leak was a conspiracy theory.
01:10:01.000What is certain is that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was manipulating various coronavirus strains to make them more contagious and lethal.
01:10:08.000The justification was that doing so is necessary to study how vaccines could be developed.
01:10:13.000But regardless of intent, cultivating dangerous biological strains has the capacity to kill huge numbers of people.
01:10:18.000All of this illustrates that research that is classified as defensive can easily be converted, deliberately or otherwise, into extremely destructive biological weapons.
01:10:27.000Does any of this remind you of another story?
01:10:30.000Are there some names that keep recurring?
01:10:33.000Senator Rand Paul has referred Dr. Anthony Fauci to the Justice Department for investigation into possible criminal prosecution for allegedly lying under oath to Congress about his knowledge of gain-of-function research conducted at China's Wuhan virus lab.
01:10:48.000Two of the most preeminent, dominant news stories of recent times appear to have peculiar and confusing elements.
01:10:56.000No wonder there's a march to censor and control independent media and the ability to communicate and discuss all facets of complicated stories like these, when continually we see stories that are first dismissed as conspiracy theories down the line become more and more demonstrably True, or at least worthy of consideration.
01:11:13.000As Glenn Greenwald demonstrated there, the story of the Wuhan lab leak went from being something that was simply dismissed to something that seems increasingly plausible.
01:11:20.000As with Tucker's conversation with RFK.
01:11:22.000Biolabs was once the preserve of nutjobs like you and me, sat in our tinfoil hats wondering about why the world seems so unfair and how certain disasters appear to benefit certain interests while annihilating life for ordinary people.
01:11:36.000But don't these laboratories give you the perfect metaphor Irresponsible, for-profit research that advances the interests of the military-industrial complex that, if it fell into the wrong hands, could be devastating for the world.
01:11:48.000Isn't that the very kind of unchecked power that we need to stop through new democratic processes, through a new manifesto of politics, through new changes, through new politicians, I hope like RFK, that would bring these practices to an end right now.
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