Stay Free - Russel Brand - Jordan Peterson CALLS OUT TRUMP! Plus Moderna’s Multi-million dollar payout! - Stay Free #194

00:00:00.000 Brian's sister was the real... 1.00

00:00:14.000 Quiet down, suicidal asshole. 1.00

00:00:28.000 In this video... 1.00

00:00:35.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:00:47.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:00:49.000 It would be impossible for me to love you any more than I do right now.

00:00:52.000 You are the very vision of perfection, if you ask me.

00:00:55.000 We're going to be talking about Trump ignoring the Republican debates.

00:00:58.000 He's going to talk to Tucker instead, and we've got some exclusive news about Rumble.

00:01:02.000 But first of all, let's have a look at that moment where Trump got so hot and sweaty on the telly that he knew Let's have a look at Trump.

00:01:11.000 Tell me first, is he sweating profusely and does he correctly predict what the mainstream media's reaction will be?

00:01:14.000 right now. We will be exclusively on Rumble in just 15 minutes because we're going to

00:01:20.000 speak so freely about Moderna and all manner of other matters. Guys, go full screen on

00:01:25.000 this because we've got a little audio issue in the studio that we need to resolve with

00:01:29.000 you. Let's have a look at Trump. Tell me first, is he sweating profusely and does he correctly

00:01:34.000 predict what the mainstream media's reaction will be? Let's go with this clip.

00:01:38.000 And by the way, I want to say officially for the press, it's about 110 degrees in this

00:01:42.000 room.

00:01:43.000 Nice job with the air conditioning, whoever.

00:01:46.000 But you know what the press will say?

00:01:48.000 You know what they'll say?

00:01:50.000 Trump didn't look well.

00:01:52.000 He was extremely wet.

00:01:55.000 It's 104 or 5 degrees in this room, but we're okay with it, right?

00:02:00.000 There's the prediction.

00:02:01.000 We've got some fantastic guests coming up on the show today.

00:02:04.000 Faz Shakir.

00:02:05.000 You might not know about Faz Shakir because you've not been paying attention to the mainstream.

00:02:09.000 He was one of the people that advised Bernie Sanders in his 2020 campaign.

00:02:14.000 Now, what I want to ask him about is, will the Democrat Party respond to the obvious interest in populist outsiders?

00:02:22.000 And would you describe RFK as a populist outsider, my on-screen assistant and friend, Gareth Roy?

00:02:27.000 He's also head of More Perfect Union, i.e.

00:02:27.000 Yeah, I would.

00:02:30.000 very pro-union, so it'll be very interesting to hear what he's got to say about Joe Biden.

00:02:34.000 You will never find, I'll tell you this now, you will never find a more pro-union president than Joe Biden.

00:02:39.000 That's not my words, that's Joe Biden's own words.

00:02:42.000 Tell that to rail workers.

00:02:43.000 I will.

00:02:44.000 Get one.

00:02:44.000 Get one in here.

00:02:45.000 If they can get to work on time.

00:02:46.000 Get me a rail worker in here and I'll tell them.

00:02:48.000 Well, they're not allowed to because they don't have any sick days.

00:02:50.000 That's a shame.

00:02:51.000 But you've got to be healthy if you're driving a train.

00:02:55.000 I'll tell you this.

00:02:56.000 This is why I backed Biden.

00:02:57.000 That's why I backed Biden in 2024.

00:02:59.000 You do not want someone wheezing, coughing, driving a bloody train.

00:03:02.000 You're going to love this story a little bit later as well.

00:03:05.000 Joe Biden, do you know about all of his aliases?

00:03:07.000 Do you know about, did you know about all of this?

00:03:09.000 I did, yeah.

00:03:09.000 He's got so many, I know you know because actually it was you that told me.

00:03:14.000 He's got so many aliases, this guy.

00:03:16.000 Do you want to know them?

00:03:17.000 Hold on, I think I've memorised them.

00:03:18.000 There's J.R.B.

00:03:20.000 Peters.

00:03:20.000 J.R.B.

00:03:21.000 J.R.B.

00:03:21.000 where?

00:03:22.000 That's beware, because guess when he was using these aliases?

00:03:22.000 where?

00:03:26.000 When he was talking to his son about certain little energy dealings.

00:03:29.000 Am I allowed to say this on YouTube?

00:03:30.000 I think so.

00:03:31.000 So when he was dealing with his son's energy business interest, business energy interest with Ukraine and China, where Trump said, as a matter of fact, on a live debate, your family's been paid millions, Joe Biden said that's absolutely not true.

00:03:44.000 Do we even have that footage today?

00:03:45.000 Are we going to cover that today?

00:03:46.000 We certainly do.

00:03:46.000 Well, first of all, there's so much to tell you.

00:03:46.000 We do.

00:03:48.000 Can you see I'm excited?

00:03:49.000 I mean, we haven't even gotten to Jordan Peterson.

00:03:51.000 I am.

00:03:52.000 I am sweating like Trump.

00:03:54.000 But I'll tell you what, one of the reasons he's probably sweating is he's sweating because he doesn't want to debate the other primary candidates.

00:03:59.000 And do you even care about that?

00:04:00.000 Because Trump ain't debating his primary candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy, guest on the show.

00:04:06.000 Ron DeSantis, guest on the show.

00:04:08.000 Joe Biden, he won't debate his bloody other candidates, will he?

00:04:13.000 Like RFK, guest on the show.

00:04:14.000 Are you seeing a theme developing?

00:04:16.000 In short, if you want to run Merricky, You better come on this show, innit?

00:04:21.000 That's the only way you can be sure of doing it.

00:04:22.000 JP, Jordan Pearson, says that Trump should be debating.

00:04:25.000 We asked you what you thought.

00:04:28.000 Here is his tweet, or X, or whatever you have to call it now.

00:04:31.000 There's no excuse for this.

00:04:33.000 Biden's doing it.

00:04:34.000 Trump's doing it. 1.00

00:04:34.000 Cowardly. 1.00

00:04:35.000 Face the people.

00:04:37.000 And then Trump's going to talk to Tucker. 0.90

00:04:40.000 That's definitely going to get more eyeballs, eye sockets, skull holes, irises, jelly balls. 1.00

00:04:50.000 That'll do.

00:04:50.000 Because in a minute I'll start saying weird stuff, won't I?

00:04:53.000 Like body porridge.

00:04:54.000 Right.

00:04:55.000 Yeah, not that.

00:04:56.000 No one needs to hear that.

00:04:57.000 That doesn't make sense.

00:04:58.000 Not out of the world.

00:04:59.000 Oh?

00:05:00.000 Can it?

00:05:00.000 Come on.

00:05:01.000 So, we've got a lot to talk about because I tell you what, the mainstream media has taken one hell of a beating.

00:05:06.000 Even the presidential primary debates are going to be held not on CNN.

00:05:12.000 Not even on Foxy Lady News.

00:05:13.000 Oh, they are on Fox as well.

00:05:15.000 Also Fox.

00:05:15.000 But also though, and perhaps more significantly, and I'm going to undo my zip, a couple of inches for this one.

00:05:21.000 Oh my word.

00:05:22.000 Rumble, but you won't be seeing those guys again.

00:05:24.000 Don't pull to the wide!

00:05:25.000 I see you pull to the wide.

00:05:27.000 These guys, these are the money makers!

00:05:30.000 Dempster money makers!

00:05:31.000 How do you think we got this deal?

00:05:32.000 We got a Because itchy and scratchy! 0.92

00:05:35.000 He's prostituted himself!

00:05:37.000 I went up there, all over Canada and Florida, to get Ernest and Honest Bob off Chris Pavlovsky and the guys over there at Rumble HQ.

00:05:45.000 And you're not grateful, are you?

00:05:47.000 Not one bit.

00:05:48.000 How about you just say thank you?

00:05:50.000 He had to do that in every meeting!

00:05:52.000 To Vivek and De Santis!

00:05:55.000 This one, this is my rapping boobie.

00:05:57.000 I'm like a head trip to listen to, cos I'm only lactating when I need to.

00:06:01.000 And then this one, a bit more statesmanly, but, you know, it doesn't seem to be going well in the old post.

00:06:06.000 Like a member of the royal family, that one, isn't it? 0.97

00:06:08.000 A lovely droopy old soppy old royal silly old... Taking the state money for very little. 0.99

00:06:13.000 So you can watch the presidential primary debates will be streamed on Rumble this Wednesday at 9pm.

00:06:19.000 Shall we do a watch-along, Gail?

00:06:20.000 We've sit like eating popcorn now.

00:06:21.000 Yeah, like it's the footy.

00:06:22.000 Like it's the football itself.

00:06:24.000 Yeah, a little watch-along.

00:06:25.000 Surely your fans of football is nice.

00:06:26.000 One of the best podcasts.

00:06:27.000 Remember, you can listen to this as audio. 0.99

00:06:30.000 That means you can carry on with your dirty, stinking business. 0.92

00:06:32.000 Presumably you've all got deals with Burisma. 0.99

00:06:34.000 You could all be doing your jobs for Burisma while simultaneously watching this show or listening to it down your ear holes.

00:06:41.000 Okay, let's have a look at whether or not, now we saw Trump predict that he would be condemned for perspiring that way and sure enough he was.

00:06:49.000 This is MSNBC talking about Trump's bodily functions.

00:06:54.000 There's new reporting this morning on a secret memo.

00:06:56.000 You think he's well?

00:06:57.000 No.

00:06:57.000 I mean I'm sweating, I'm just saying I'm sweating that much.

00:06:59.000 Do you think he's...

00:07:00.000 In a million different ways, I don't think he's well.

00:07:03.000 You think he's unhealthy?

00:07:06.000 I mean, Marco Rubio didn't sweat that much.

00:07:08.000 Correct.

00:07:09.000 Ron DeSantis doesn't sweat that much.

00:07:11.000 Anyhow.

00:07:12.000 That was a lot of sweat.

00:07:15.000 Don't talk about the amounts of people swear.

00:07:18.000 I suppose when Trump continually preempts and predicts things that will happen on the mainstream, or is able to declare publicly that Hunter Biden's business dealings are shady, or at least lead to millions of dollars in revenue, they've not been proven to be shady yet.

00:07:31.000 Perhaps because the person that's investigating them is Pal of Moderna.

00:07:35.000 David Weiss.

00:07:36.000 Let's have a look.

00:07:37.000 That's what David Weiss was doing before he was investigating.

00:07:37.000 That's true.

00:07:41.000 Let's call it investigating Hunter Biden.

00:07:43.000 He was exculpating Moderna. 0.96

00:07:46.000 Now some people, we had a little vote.

00:07:48.000 Should Trump be made to debate?

00:07:50.000 38% of you said he should be made to.

00:07:52.000 How would you do that though?

00:07:53.000 19% said don't make him.

00:07:55.000 And 42% of you, you mad giddy nihilists, say it doesn't matter anyway.

00:08:00.000 You wild children of the Lord.

00:08:02.000 Hey, if you're watching this on Rumble right now, why don't you press the red button and join us over on Locals?

00:08:07.000 It's a fantastic place to watch.

00:08:09.000 There's a beautiful community in there like Blessed Old Bird and Jim Earth.

00:08:12.000 We're C137 chatting away.

00:08:14.000 Purple Revolution says, I deeply respect Jordan Peterson on many things, but he does not seem

00:08:18.000 to be able to wrap his mind around the 100 year moment we're in with Trump the destroyer.

00:08:23.000 What do you think?

00:08:24.000 Why don't you get involved in that conversation?

00:08:26.000 And I would suggest in a loving way, because free speech is being attacked, curtailed and

00:08:30.000 closed down in myriad new ways, whether it's the WHO's rules there over YouTube, their

00:08:36.000 community guidelines will be expanded to include all medical matters.

00:08:39.000 And if you're one of our 6.5 million awakening wonders over there, in order to maintain for

00:08:44.000 free speech, after just a few more minutes, we're going to slink off into rumble, the

00:08:48.000 shadowy world where free speech flourishes, where it grows abundantly, like them hanging

00:08:54.000 gardens of Babylon, baby, tumbling down honeysuckles of truth.

00:08:59.000 When you have a look at this bit of, let's call it broadcasting from CNN, it sort of elides almost effortlessly into what we, me and Gareth here think is insidious hypnotism.

00:09:09.000 They start reporting on Trump being right about Hunter's business dealings in the 2020 presidential debates with Biden.

00:09:19.000 Look at this.

00:09:20.000 Now look, if you were trying to indict Donald Trump right now, This would be some very unhelpful footage because you see on camera it looks to me like Donald Trump telling the truth and Joe Biden lying.

00:09:33.000 Look at how the mainstream media cover this.

00:09:35.000 It's fascinating.

00:09:36.000 Glenn Kessler from the Washington Post had a fact check about Joe Biden from earlier this month noting that Hunter Biden admitted in court in July That he was in fact paid substantial sums from Chinese companies.

00:09:49.000 Kessler wrote Hunter Biden reported nearly $2.4 million in income in 2017 and $2.2 million in income in 2018, most of which came from Chinese or Ukrainian interests.

00:09:59.000 And this directly goes against what Joe Biden said in the debate in 2020 with Donald Trump.

00:10:06.000 Take a listen.

00:10:08.000 My son has not made money in terms of this thing about, uh, what are you talking about, China.

00:10:15.000 None of that is true.

00:10:16.000 He made a fortune in Ukraine, in China, in Moscow, and various other places.

00:10:20.000 That is simply not true.

00:10:23.000 How good is it?

00:10:24.000 Simply not true is the claim made by Biden, and yet it is true.

00:10:29.000 It's interesting to see how CNN mitigate this, but what do you say, mate?

00:10:33.000 Yeah, no, obviously we've got nine seconds left for this.

00:10:36.000 There's a longer clip that we'll probably need to get to, to fully make your point.

00:10:40.000 Really?

00:10:41.000 Let's get the full clip, guys.

00:10:42.000 How did that transition take place?

00:10:43.000 You get on there.

00:10:44.000 Young Putin is the one. 0.71

00:10:45.000 Show gallery cam.

00:10:46.000 Not clam. 0.74

00:10:47.000 Jesus, that's disgusting. 0.71

00:10:48.000 Show gallery cam, because Young Putin's in there. 0.78

00:10:51.000 Young Putin, I want you to face the camera and apologize, because you are responsible.

00:10:56.000 Also, future you should apologize for your needless invasion of Ukraine.

00:11:01.000 That's the very least you can do.

00:11:02.000 Although, let's face it, NATO did meddle in that 2014 coup.

00:11:05.000 But we'll get to the bottom of that, as long as the YouTube guidelines don't prevent it from happening.

00:11:10.000 Let's have a look at how CNN begin to tackle this, and sort of, in a sense, what do I want to say?

00:11:17.000 Mitigate and provide contingency?

00:11:19.000 Well, it's all using the phrase blind spot, isn't it?

00:11:22.000 Oh, that's lovely, that stuff.

00:11:23.000 Two different debates, but, I mean, Trump was right.

00:11:27.000 I mean, he did make a fortune from China, and Joe Biden was wrong.

00:11:33.000 Glenn Kessler from The Washington Post.

00:11:35.000 Whoa, hello.

00:11:36.000 Did you see that?

00:11:36.000 We nearly stopped playing the titles again, which will be trouble on YouTube, because Tricky, the great British Bristol-born genius that wrote those lyrics and that entire song that's our theme tune, we're not allowed to play that on YouTube.

00:11:47.000 Every time I hear it, I get a little bit angry.

00:11:47.000 No.

00:11:49.000 Well, it's medical misinformation.

00:11:50.000 That is medical misinformation.

00:11:52.000 A lot of things he says in there.

00:11:53.000 He makes all sorts of claims about a particular three-syllable drug, four-syllable drug, that could fend off the Naughty famous cough with barely any effort.

00:12:05.000 Hey, listen to this.

00:12:06.000 So Joe Biden, one of the ways he's handling his peculiar business arrangements with his little lad is by having a multitude of pseudonyms.

00:12:15.000 Now, I will say as a famous person, there are any number of reasons a person might have a pseudonym.

00:12:21.000 You might use a pseudonym, for example, to mask your involvement in some illegal activity.

00:12:27.000 That's it.

00:12:28.000 There are no other reasons.

00:12:29.000 That is the sole reason.

00:12:31.000 VP Joe Biden used pseudonym Robert L. Peters in Emails to Hunter about Ukraine business, but that is not the only pseudonym he used. 1.00

00:12:40.000 Some of the others are really stupid. 0.99

00:12:42.000 Robert Peters, Robin Weir, and my favourite, J.R.B. 1.00

00:12:46.000 Weir.

00:12:46.000 It's me, J.R.B.

00:12:48.000 Weir.

00:12:48.000 You better give my kid a job.

00:12:51.000 My name's not J.R.B.

00:12:52.000 Weir.

00:12:53.000 Your name's not JR Beware.

00:12:54.000 I mean, he can't remember his own actual name!

00:12:56.000 How's he remembering this string of aliases?

00:12:58.000 He's got more aliases than Ethan Hunt!

00:13:01.000 But it's a mission impossible for him just to remember which direction to walk off stage!

00:13:05.000 Now that's a joke, baby, in anyone's language.

00:13:08.000 It sounds like a building suppliers or something doesn't it?

00:13:08.000 How does he come up with that?

00:13:12.000 Do you need gas from Ukraine?

00:13:13.000 You better believe we need gas from Ukraine than my boys the fella that provided.

00:13:18.000 He knows how to work a pipe I'll tell you that now and for nothing.

00:13:22.000 Listen we can't stay on YouTube with this kind of free speech can we?

00:13:27.000 Surely not. 0.98

00:13:27.000 Speaking freely in this manner, don't be daft. 0.98

00:13:30.000 It's not possible. 0.80

00:13:31.000 We've got to talk about Moderna making that $400 million payment to the NIH.

00:13:36.000 We've got to talk about in our country, the UK, this fella, former British medical officer, who goes by the name of Jonathan Van Tam, whose name is too similar to both Jean-Claude Van Damme And Jonathan Van Ness, our Queer Eye, you've got to have a name that's a bit more unique and a bit less confusing.

00:13:55.000 But old Van Tam, Chief Medical Officer, part of his job during the pandemic was recommending that we all take Moderna vaccines.

00:14:03.000 Guess where he's gone to work now?

00:14:04.000 By some extraordinary giddy little coincidence, he's gone to work at Moderna.

00:14:08.000 Well, he also worked before he took on that role with the government.

00:14:12.000 But the idea that that involves some sort of corruption or a revolving door would make you and everyone you love a conspiracy theorist.

00:14:20.000 We're going to get into that story with a little more depth.

00:14:23.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, remember, we've got Faz Shakir coming on, and I'm going to be asking Faz about how he feels about a Democrat party that shuts down populist and even popular candidates like Bernie Sanders.

00:14:34.000 We know for a fact The Democrats would rather have lost to Trump than won with Bernie.

00:14:39.000 They push legacy career politicians and it seems now that these career politicians, if you look around them, they've got all sorts of aliases, they've got dodgy funds, there's Russiagate scandals, not Russellgate scandals, that's one thing we can learn.

00:14:52.000 Allegedly.

00:14:53.000 Just gonna give that a little allegedly, baby. 0.99

00:14:55.000 We're gonna leave you now.

00:14:56.000 If you're watching on YouTube, click the link in the description.

00:14:59.000 Join us over in the home of free speech.

00:15:01.000 As mainstream media declines, we grow stronger.

00:15:04.000 Join us there for the conversation.

00:15:06.000 And if you're watching this on Rumble, why don't you press the red button?

00:15:09.000 Enjoying these beautiful people in the Locals conversation.

00:15:12.000 As well as being part of a free-speaking community over there in Locals, you get podcasts, you get access to a special... I'm actually, even now, involved in the design of a pair of underpants that you will be sent.

00:15:12.000 That's not all you get.

00:15:23.000 Certainly the first 1,500 people to join... that become Awakening Wonders will be sent. 0.99

00:15:28.000 Pictures of your nipples? 0.99

00:15:29.000 I can't offer that anymore, Gareth. 0.99

00:15:31.000 That was alleged and adjudged to be inappropriate.

00:15:34.000 There's a line, isn't there?

00:15:35.000 And some people said it's disgusting.

00:15:36.000 There's no line here except for the sweet line that runs between these guys.

00:15:41.000 That's the last time you'll ever see them.

00:15:42.000 So I hope you drink it in, guys.

00:15:45.000 There's no more of that, let me tell you.

00:15:45.000 Drink it in.

00:15:47.000 So Moderna's paid the government $400 million.

00:15:49.000 dollars. Should we have a look at that? Should we have a look

00:15:52.000 at that hearing in Australia? One of the things you'll love if

00:15:55.000 you're a global citizen is the easy casual way that Australia

00:15:59.000 do government. Yes, of course, they're willing to pilot peculiar schemes. Like what were they piloting last week in

00:16:04.000 Australia? World coin or something like that? Oh, yeah, they're shutting down people's currencies. Also, they sort

00:16:09.000 of piloted some pretty shady internment camps during the

00:16:12.000 pandemic period. Certainly a lot of our community said they were

00:16:15.000 treated appallingly in Australia. Well, now those chicken to come home a root.

00:16:19.000 There's an inquiry going on about Moderna's conduct at expenditure, and in particular, Moderna's liability, i.e.

00:16:28.000 if Moderna's products, in particular the vaccine, caused injury, and there's significant reports that they did and do, did they put aside any money for liability to compensate the variously injured Australians affected by that product?

00:16:43.000 Let's have a look at that hearing now.

00:16:46.000 Does Moderna plough back into helping people who are injured by the vaccine?

00:16:46.000 ...needs your profits.

00:16:52.000 Thank you.

00:16:53.000 I was going to say, um... Watch this.

00:16:56.000 This shows you how the system works.

00:16:58.000 The answer to that is none.

00:17:00.000 Now look how long it takes them to not get to none, right?

00:17:03.000 The answer is, like, in a very Australian... Now listen, mate, I'm going to lean in and I'm going to ask you in a slightly woozy way, like we're at a barbecue.

00:17:10.000 And we could be chatting about cricket.

00:17:12.000 We could be chatting about Kylie.

00:17:14.000 We just happened to be chatting about Moderna.

00:17:16.000 Now, how much money did you put aside for vaccine injuries?

00:17:18.000 The answer is, we didn't put any aside, because all of it's profits, and you remember, when we manufactured the vaccines, deals were done to grant us indemnity, so in the event that there were injuries, the government would be liable, and taxpayers would have paid for the development of those drugs, the purchase of those drugs, and now, out of court, presumably, settlements for the injuries caused by those drugs.

00:17:39.000 That's the actual answer.

00:17:40.000 Look how much prevarication and nonsense goes on.

00:17:43.000 We're aware that there is sort of an indemnity for COVID-19 suppliers, but indemnities are a policy matter for government to decide.

00:17:57.000 I can't comment.

00:17:58.000 So Moderna doesn't put any of its profits back into helping the victims of injuries from the Moderna vaccine, is that correct?

00:18:07.000 So Moderna is a company that's focused on manufacturing vaccines.

00:18:10.000 Really good answer, isn't it?

00:18:12.000 Oh, I know what you're asking me.

00:18:14.000 When you said, did you put aside any money to help people that were damaged by vaccine injury, you must have meant, is Moderna a company?

00:18:22.000 Moderna is a company.

00:18:24.000 That's what that... Alright, well that clears that up then.

00:18:26.000 That's just the whole of the world we live in, isn't it?

00:18:28.000 A world where you know that people take jobs in government after working at Moderna, then get another job after being in government recommending Moderna products and going to work for Moderna again.

00:18:38.000 You recognise all this.

00:18:39.000 You know that the world's made up of hearings like this, where there's prevarication, obfuscation and avoidance instead of plain justice.

00:18:46.000 So when you see someone like Donald Trump, and in particular Donald Trump, on your TV set saying, Hunter Biden was given millions of dollars by That is a lie!

00:18:57.000 That is a lie!

00:18:58.000 But don't take my word for it!

00:18:59.000 Talk to my friend J.R.B.

00:19:01.000 Buxtaville! 0.99

00:19:02.000 He'll tell ya!

00:19:03.000 I'll tell you now!

00:19:04.000 Now that boy is a good kid!

00:19:06.000 And it turns out that Trump, the one that's currently being indicted, was telling the

00:19:10.000 truth.

00:19:11.000 I'm not saying that Trump should be indicted, I know loads of you will be saying that, but

00:19:13.000 guess who else should be indicted?

00:19:14.000 Let us know in the locals chat right now, press that red button and let's watch out

00:19:18.000 for a little bit more of this corporate doublespeak over there in Australia.

00:19:24.000 The matter of indemnity for vaccine suppliers is a matter for government itself.

00:19:32.000 So you're not prepared to underwrite the risk of your own vaccine?

00:19:35.000 You're not prepared to actually put money where your mouth is when it comes to vaccines?

00:19:39.000 Mayan drummer on the chat says, put another Pfizer on the barbie, mate.

00:19:43.000 For the safety of your vaccine, is that correct?

00:19:46.000 So just before you answer this question, Senator Rennick, I'll have to go to Senator Antic after this.

00:19:51.000 He's on the committee with him, isn't he?

00:19:52.000 And he's shutting him down.

00:19:53.000 Or is he a lawyer for Moderna?

00:19:54.000 He's doing sort of dual function.

00:19:56.000 Mate, before you go any further, look, you're getting perilously close to revealing the truth of the degree of corruption that's been involved in this entire pandemic for Argo.

00:20:04.000 So could we talk about something else?

00:20:06.000 I mean, Oh, what's the point in this anyway?

00:20:08.000 Should we just all go outside and enjoy ourselves?

00:20:10.000 What's Australia founded on?

00:20:12.000 Getting bloody chlamydia from koalas and having prisoners rise through the ranks to offices?

00:20:18.000 No, I mean, what we know, you know, there's only a certain amount of politicians who will be asking questions like this.

00:20:18.000 No.

00:20:23.000 We've got the same situation in America.

00:20:25.000 Rand Paul is one of very few politicians who are actually asking questions to vaccine manufacturers.

00:20:29.000 Bernie Sanders asking about the kind of financial side.

00:20:33.000 Rand Paul asking about side effects and things like that.

00:20:35.000 He's like this, isn't he?

00:20:36.000 He's like that.

00:20:37.000 That's what Bernie Sanders is like.

00:20:38.000 I'm going to do that for Faz Shakir. 0.95

00:20:40.000 We've got one of Bernie Sanders' advisors coming on.

00:20:43.000 We're going to say, why has the Democrat Party become so sort of largely defunct?

00:20:46.000 How are they ever going to serve unions when they clearly only operate according to the whims and will of their corporate sponsors?

00:20:52.000 And we used to have a sponsor, not sponsor, an MP over in this country.

00:20:56.000 He mentioned vaccines.

00:20:57.000 I just said, you can't have a job no more, didn't they?

00:20:59.000 Or was he called Marcus Brigstocke?

00:21:01.000 Uh, yeah, that's a comedian.

00:21:02.000 Someone like that.

00:21:03.000 Andrew Bridgehead.

00:21:04.000 Brideshead Revisited.

00:21:05.000 That's it.

00:21:06.000 He was called Brideshead Revisited, and this kid had a bright future, but then he went out of line, and he mentioned vaccines, and do you know what he's doing now? 0.99

00:21:14.000 Flipping pennies for blowjobs under a bridge, oh man! 0.99

00:21:19.000 Andrew Bridgeton was his name, it's up on the screen now. 1.00

00:21:21.000 Let's have a look at these Aussies mucking around with sweet lady justice. 1.00

00:21:25.000 Just the last question there.

00:21:26.000 Back to you.

00:21:27.000 Just yes or no, you're not prepared to underwrite the safety of your own vaccine?

00:21:31.000 We take safety of our vaccines very seriously.

00:21:34.000 We have a very good pharmacovigilance process in place, in fact a comprehensive one.

00:21:43.000 However, I would only reiterate that indemnities are a matter for policy makers.

00:21:51.000 But what about a moral social conscience of putting some of your profits back in helping victims of the vaccine?

00:21:57.000 What about your morals and stuff like that?

00:21:59.000 Why don't you got no morals?

00:22:00.000 What's wrong with you?

00:22:00.000 Why don't you care about morals and stuff like that?

00:22:03.000 Ain't you ever caught chlamydia off a koala before?

00:22:05.000 How'd you even get it?

00:22:06.000 What'd you do, drag them down from that eucalyptus tree?

00:22:08.000 You know they're half-drunk.

00:22:10.000 You know that their claws look like duffel coat buttons, don't they?

00:22:14.000 Of Paddington Bear's coat.

00:22:15.000 That's what their claws is like. 0.84

00:22:16.000 You don't want one of them going crazy, gotcha? 0.97

00:22:18.000 You're bloody lucky you only got chlamydia, mate, because they could slash off your gengangoo as soon as they look at you. 1.00

00:22:23.000 And I say that as an investigative reporter. 0.99

00:22:27.000 That's me now.

00:22:28.000 That's the news!

00:22:29.000 We're all done!

00:22:30.000 Time to wrap it up!

00:22:31.000 Time to wrap it up! 1.00

00:22:32.000 Join us over on locals, you beautiful bastards, why don't ya? 0.99

00:22:35.000 What are we going to talk about now? 0.99

00:22:36.000 Mandy Cohen, CDC director.

00:22:38.000 What's she saying lately?

00:22:39.000 Yeah, we can talk about that.

00:22:41.000 Have I told you lately to learn to love ya?

00:22:43.000 Have I?

00:22:44.000 Course I haven't.

00:22:45.000 Or should we do some free speech?

00:22:46.000 Because I love freedom of speech.

00:22:47.000 And where freedom meets speech, you get free speech.

00:22:50.000 And where free speech meets, you get freach.

00:22:52.000 Yeah.

00:23:02.000 Let's see what your free speech is about.

00:23:02.000 Well done, everyone!

00:23:04.000 HeyNavigator says, morals are for people, Moderna is a company.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, using that psychopath analysis.

00:23:09.000 Love it.

00:23:10.000 NoDuggar... I always struggle to say his name.

00:23:12.000 NoDugganoko. 0.99

00:23:13.000 Can you hyphenate your name, mate, so I can read it easier?

00:23:15.000 NoDugganoko says, I think it may be best if everyone just goes to DC one at a time and does a real insurrection.

00:23:20.000 Whoa, baby! 1.00

00:23:21.000 That's insurrectionist talk, wasn't it?

00:23:24.000 No, Duggan, oh, co you free speech mean right into a corner there. You've salty little bastard 1.00

00:23:29.000 Oh you dirty sod right? Let's have a look at these people's free speech 1.00

00:23:33.000 I was remember when I had dr. Paul Saladino come on the show and he's telling us that we're mad to be vegans 0.89

00:23:39.000 We're mad that we should just end any time a cow goes by Kick it up its tit hole and drag it down and bite a lump of

00:23:45.000 it off That's basically what he said was near Paul Saladino kick 0.99

00:23:49.000 its tits in and and go on there was exactly that All right, I admit I'm paraphrasing. I can't I've got time 0.99

00:23:56.000 to do verbatim reports and everything Paul Saladino I says particularly when I think we're about to see a clip

00:24:01.000 of him saying When you and I don't I get no pleasure from doing this when 0.99

00:24:04.000 you shit yourself, you don't even need to wipe your bottom That's what he says. 1.00

00:24:08.000 I don't think he meant shit yourself as in accidentally. 1.00

00:24:11.000 You're out in the street, you've been out You're Australian, perhaps. 1.00

00:24:14.000 You've been out on the booze, you've snogged a koala, you've ridden with chlamydia, you've shat yourself in your undies, mate. 1.00

00:24:20.000 And you don't even have to wipe your own asspipe. 1.00

00:24:22.000 That's what Saladino's saying. 0.91

00:24:24.000 But why take my word for it?

00:24:25.000 Here's that happening now.

00:24:27.000 Come on, I'm gonna show you guys how I poop.

00:24:29.000 So, obviously I sit here. 0.94

00:24:32.000 but i actually i'd like to think you take your shorts off mate i mean like there's maybe you were right after all see he's just gonna do it i'd like maybe paul saladino just a little crystal orb comes out of his bum like an entirely transparent crystal orb comes out of his bum hole And yes and someone's commented in the gallery you should also generally lift the lid when you do shit otherwise it's gonna just smudge up under there and you'll get what you'll get is like a mask sort of like a papier-mâché mask of your own ball bag or labia but it would be like an imprint of them as if he was going to make a model of them 0.63

00:25:02.000 It'd be a very different video though if Paul did actually take his trousers and pants off and I mean it would, you'd start to get uncomfortable pretty quickly.

00:25:09.000 I wouldn't. 0.92

00:25:10.000 I'd just watch it and watch that crystal orb come out of his bum hole and I bet he's got really lovely organs.

00:25:15.000 I bet they're in real good nick. 0.71

00:25:16.000 Of course they are.

00:25:17.000 Look at that stance!

00:25:19.000 Look at that, it starts like a buffalo stance.

00:25:21.000 Spread those legs, doesn't it? 1.00

00:25:22.000 Spread them up, get them shorts right tight around your legs. 0.99

00:25:25.000 Don't use toilet paper, this is just for the guests.

00:25:27.000 I have a bidet.

00:25:29.000 Get away, what if a guest comes in, Paul? 0.99

00:25:31.000 ...on this toilet, because I learned that toilet paper, paper towels, all kinds of paper products that we use contain BPA and other xenoestrogens, and I don't want to rub my butt with that. 0.97

00:25:41.000 No way, I don't want ecosestrians up my pipe, do you mate? 1.00

00:25:44.000 God no, absolutely not.

00:25:45.000 Not after the last time.

00:25:46.000 Some of them are still up there.

00:25:49.000 So I just use a bidet and I rinse... Bidet, mate.

00:25:53.000 Sorry, I don't know why I said that, I was wrong.

00:25:55.000 But like, the thing is, I thought he just left it.

00:25:58.000 Now he washes it out.

00:25:58.000 Come on, we've been mis-sold on this.

00:26:00.000 I thought he just leaves his bumhole alone.

00:26:02.000 It's just a bidet if I does that.

00:26:04.000 We thought exactly.

00:26:05.000 That's no big deal.

00:26:06.000 Or he just washes it in a different way.

00:26:07.000 Why's he all proud of this?

00:26:09.000 He's not the new king of rock and roll, is he?

00:26:11.000 He's not revitalised the music.

00:26:13.000 No, I thought the point was that he doesn't require anything else.

00:26:16.000 He doesn't require anything. 0.99

00:26:17.000 I thought what we were... What we were sold, Gareth, is this guy... Basically, he's shit don't stink, weren't we? 1.00

00:26:22.000 We were sold that this guy, what comes out of his butthole is so pristine, he doesn't even need to wipe it. 1.00

00:26:27.000 Just a fully formed, perfect little... 0.99

00:26:30.000 not even touch like he can relax his bumhole so open like that it just sort of drops out 0.93

00:26:34.000 like as if he's doing a drug run like he's just been down to El Salvador

00:26:39.000 picked up a key and then just drops it above the Louisiana swamps and then the hillbillies can pick

00:26:45.000 it up there and distribute Paul Saladino's poop and nothing's hit the sides nothing's hit the sides

00:26:50.000 you could eat your dinner off Paul Saladino's bumhole That's what we were promised, that you could sit down there and eat your dinner out of Paul Saladino's... And yet, is that the fact?

00:26:59.000 It doesn't seem to be, does it? 0.99

00:26:59.000 He's gotta wash all the shit off the edges with hose pipe! 0.99

00:27:03.000 It's disgusting! 1.00

00:27:04.000 He'll be out there for ages! 0.91

00:27:05.000 Do you know what it's like after Paul Saladino's done a poo?

00:27:07.000 It's like in Pulp Fiction, when they kill that lad by mistake.

00:27:10.000 Marvin, I think he's called.

00:27:11.000 They have to put blankets down his trousers.

00:27:13.000 Oh God, it's worse than regular poos!

00:27:15.000 Let's have a look at how he winds this up in 20 seconds. 1.00

00:27:17.000 He's basically a pervert. 0.99

00:27:18.000 But with that, I'm like, so that's how I poop. 0.99

00:27:20.000 But be aware that paper towels, printer paper, toilet paper, tampon... It's printer paper!

00:27:27.000 Or a tampon!

00:27:28.000 I'm not using a tampon to wipe my... I'm not using a tampon to wipe my bottom!

00:27:30.000 I thought you were not animals! 0.99

00:27:32.000 What have you done to your anus that you have to put a tampon up there? 0.99

00:27:36.000 Well... 0.99

00:27:37.000 That's his business, isn't it?

00:27:39.000 Of course it is!

00:27:40.000 Let's not pry. 0.99

00:27:42.000 Paul, you and your anus... You do you. 1.00

00:27:44.000 You do you. 1.00

00:27:45.000 You do what the hell you want up there.

00:27:46.000 If you want to see that as a little party pipe, that's your lookout, isn't it?

00:27:49.000 Who are we to judge anybody?

00:27:49.000 Absolutely.

00:27:51.000 A lot of these paper products contain BPA and other xenoestrogens that can be absorbed

00:27:57.000 into your body and we don't need more of those.

00:27:59.000 We have tons of xenoestrogens in our environment and I'm trying to limit that as much as possible

00:28:04.000 to protect my hormonal health.

00:28:06.000 Right, okay, fair enough.

00:28:09.000 He doesn't, he doesn't, he uses that thing.

00:28:11.000 That's fine.

00:28:11.000 But I'd use that.

00:28:13.000 It's a good idea.

00:28:13.000 It comes out like everyone else's, is what we're saying.

00:28:15.000 We better find, look. 1.00

00:28:16.000 He doesn't use bills to wipe his arse with. 0.99

00:28:19.000 Yeah, like, yeah, like, he's living, Paul Saladino's trying to turn a few quid out of living a regular life. 0.99

00:28:26.000 When I clean my teeth, I don't use a toilet brush.

00:28:29.000 I don't just drag plaque off my teeth with my fingernails like Cruella de Vil.

00:28:34.000 I use a toothbrush!

00:28:35.000 How's everyone doing that, Paul Saladino? 1.00

00:28:38.000 You lunatic. 0.76

00:28:39.000 Listen, we better provide some cartilage because I can't go straight to Fad Shakir, a serious political figure who's organizing unions, who brokered the deal between Christian Smalls and Joe Biden's government, who advises Bernie Sanders. 0.97

00:28:50.000 I can't go straight from Paul Saladino's Butthole party straight to a serious political figure.

00:28:57.000 Let's get RFK on now as you know, unless you've been living in a cave with Paul Saladino Like you will be aware that me and RFK are locked in a battle not only of wits But a battle of biceps and lats we're raising money in order to like for his campaign fund I'm supporting him and I'm gonna have a pull-up competition against him.

00:29:17.000 He's trying to goad me He trash-talking me pretty bad.

00:29:20.000 He trying to trash talk me. 0.99

00:29:21.000 Let's have a look at his trash talking video. 0.97

00:29:34.000 I want you to note that he's doing those pull-ups with his fingers. 0.97

00:29:37.000 Like a mountain climber, like Alex Harnon or whatever he's called, that geezer that does free climbs up El Capitan without even trying his hardest.

00:29:44.000 Yes, exactly like that.

00:29:44.000 It's effortless.

00:29:45.000 Effortlessly.

00:29:46.000 Look, he's not even sweating, is he? 0.88

00:29:48.000 Not like Paul Saladino or Trump, sweating themselves senseless, straining out poop after poop.

00:29:48.000 No.

00:29:54.000 He's completely relaxed.

00:29:55.000 I took a break to practice my pull-ups.

00:29:57.000 We're already at $50,000.

00:29:59.000 I don't have to remind you we had a $100,000 deal here.

00:30:02.000 If we raise $100,000, you and I are going mano a mano on the pull-up bar.

00:30:06.000 I have already, to a degree, committed to help raise funds for your campaign, Bobby, through a pull-up challenge, which is seeming increasingly ill-advised.

00:30:17.000 We're already at 50,000.

00:30:18.000 Tell your followers to go to kennedy24.com slash pull-up.

00:30:23.000 And when I'm president, we're going to finish building homes like this for every American.

00:30:28.000 Well, that home's too close to the road, so I think I need to move that into a bit of a sidewalk, I would say.

00:30:32.000 Jolly good windows.

00:30:33.000 Yeah, come on. 0.77

00:30:35.000 He's going to thrash me in that pull-up competition.

00:30:37.000 If you've not donated yet, donate now.

00:30:39.000 The link's in the description, guys.

00:30:41.000 He's going to annihilate me.

00:30:42.000 He's powerful.

00:30:43.000 Is this him being more powerful?

00:30:45.000 Is that Bobby Kennedy doing something else mental?

00:30:47.000 Or is that someone else?

00:30:48.000 Robert F. Kennedy.

00:30:49.000 Santa Monica date night continued.

00:30:51.000 Redemption on the rings.

00:30:51.000 Just have a quick look at this there.

00:30:53.000 What's going on there?

00:30:54.000 Let's have a look at this.

00:30:55.000 Have we got that footage or is it just a tweet?

00:30:56.000 We don't have the actual footage.

00:30:58.000 That's from Primal Collin.

00:30:59.000 Oh, is it?

00:31:00.000 Oh, it's Primal Collin.

00:31:01.000 I was a member of our own community saying that they're going to back RFK rather than me. 0.97

00:31:06.000 Disgusting.

00:31:07.000 OK, listen, one of the things that's becoming plain is that the world is demanding alternative political candidates. 0.83

00:31:15.000 And even though Bobby Kennedy comes from a legacy family, his rhetoric is anything but.

00:31:21.000 Being aware of the Bernie Sanders campaign the last time and how it was, I would say, shut down by the Democrat Party establishment is, I would say, a serious obstacle to their ongoing electability.

00:31:32.000 And even if they are elected, what does it mean for ordinary people who care about America?

00:31:38.000 Seems to me that you get an institutionalized, donor-led political establishment that can't respond to the will of the very Americans that apparently elected it.

00:31:46.000 We've got Faz Shakir on the line.

00:31:49.000 He is the advisor to Bernie Sanders and head of non-profit More Perfect Union, an organization that champions workers' rights and their voices, which is obviously extremely important.

00:31:59.000 Thanks for joining us, Faz.

00:32:00.000 It's a pleasure to have you.

00:32:02.000 All right, Russell, I'll try to match your energy.

00:32:04.000 I'm not sure I can, but good to see you.

00:32:06.000 I'm actually exhausted just from watching Bobby doing those fingertip pull-ups.

00:32:10.000 What do you feel about the state of the party that I assume you align with?

00:32:15.000 Of course, because of their attitude to unions, the way they reneged on their commitment during the East Palestine crisis, the way that Joe Biden publicly claims to be the friend of the unions, while in practice does very little to help ordinary working Americans.

00:32:29.000 And more broadly how do you feel about a Democrat party that seems married to legacy politicians from the Clinton dynasty in particular and unwilling to respond to what seems to me to be a huge appetite for real change?

00:32:43.000 How do you feel about that?

00:32:45.000 Frustrated, but I'm involved in this effort to stay invested in the system, Russell.

00:32:50.000 Like I'm here to try to make it better. 0.99

00:32:51.000 Like if you get cynical and you get depressed and you just start to say, oh, everything's bullshit, 0.98

00:32:56.000 we're done with this, it leaves you in a place of anarchy. 0.97

00:32:58.000 And so we got two party system in America.

00:33:01.000 Bernie Sanders ran in the Democratic Party to try to change what he saw as the best vessel

00:33:06.000 to care about working people in America.

00:33:07.000 You could debate them and argue with them that the Democratic Party is better than Republican one.

00:33:11.000 I still believe that that is the case.

00:33:12.000 That's why I'm invested in it.

00:33:13.000 But yeah, you got to be realistic that is it what we want?

00:33:16.000 No, but I'm invested in trying to make it better.

00:33:20.000 I understand that, and I actually deeply respect it as a matter of fact.

00:33:24.000 But Bernie, of course, was independent for the longest of times.

00:33:27.000 Do you feel that what's happened to Bernie ever since he's become a member of the Democrat Party demonstrates the efficacy of bipartisan politics, or exactly the opposite?

00:33:36.000 Russell, isn't that what happens anytime you get involved in trying to transact power?

00:33:41.000 You make a decision that you have to engage in the institutions as they are, and they do by their nature.

00:33:47.000 A lot of the status quo is corrupting of a kind.

00:33:49.000 You have people who take Make money from big donors.

00:33:53.000 You have people willing to cater to corporate lobbyists. 1.00

00:33:55.000 And then here comes Bernie as an iconoclast saying, I don't give a shit about any of that stuff, but I got to work with these bastards who do. 0.99

00:34:02.000 I got to work a way to transact a paid sick days or minimum wage increase or whatever it might be. 0.99

00:34:08.000 I have to transact within a system.

00:34:10.000 So I get that for anybody who wants to jump in and say, I got to play within the sandbox.

00:34:15.000 It's dirty in here.

00:34:16.000 It's messy in here.

00:34:17.000 But you can't stay outside of it and assume you're going to get anything done. 0.98

00:34:20.000 To my views, people have to get it into the sandbox and try to fix the damn thing. 0.99

00:34:24.000 It's dirty in that sandbox. I'd check whether or not Paul Saladino's been in there 0.97

00:34:29.000 practicing his extraordinary manner of defecating, which we've covered in extraordinary detail

00:34:35.000 in this show. Whilst Bernie was willing to confront publicly Moderna on the basis of 0.97

00:34:41.000 their profits, and I'd be fascinated to learn what his views are on this 400 million NIH

00:34:46.000 payout, Bernie has been willing to vote alongside Joe Biden, broadly speaking.

00:34:51.000 And in a sense, hasn't he been not just, I would say, sort of compromising with the Democrat Party, but entirely subsumed into his agenda?

00:35:01.000 What good is Bernie able to do when he votes alongside Biden when it comes to funding this war in the manner that it has been?

00:35:07.000 And where are you seeing meaningful change brought about by the compromises you're describing?

00:35:13.000 That's the question right there.

00:35:15.000 For all of your disagreements that you posit, has there been anything of value?

00:35:19.000 Has there been any progress to be made for working people?

00:35:22.000 And you say, okay, well, here's an administration that puts $2,000 checks into people's pockets in the midst of COVID.

00:35:28.000 They negotiate drug prices on Medicare for the first time ever.

00:35:31.000 They increase the corporate tax rate.

00:35:34.000 They institute a stock buyback tax.

00:35:36.000 They start to figure out, okay, we're going to stand with some working people and go to a picket line and send the Secretary of Labor there.

00:35:41.000 We're going to stand with Amazon organizing workers.

00:35:44.000 Some of those things, in my mind, are worth it.

00:35:46.000 They are worth investing in that direction as opposed to a different one that says, I don't give a damn about any of that stuff. 1.00

00:35:52.000 The whole system is for shit. 0.98

00:35:54.000 And I think you do have generally a Republican Party that doesn't believe that we want to invest in government doing these kinds of things. 1.00

00:36:01.000 I mean, if you take like Medicare price negotiation right now, you've got four drug makers and

00:36:06.000 Chamber of Commerce and Pharma all filing lawsuits saying it's unconstitutional, you

00:36:10.000 can't lower prescription drug prices.

00:36:13.000 And you're like, okay, well, there's a choice there.

00:36:15.000 Whose side are you on?

00:36:16.000 And I'm very much on the side of, yeah, we're going to negotiate drug prices down.

00:36:20.000 You mentioned Moderna, and Bernie Hall, the CEO of Moderna, into that committee hearing, said, you know, they jacked up the price of COVID vaccine by 400 percent, charged American taxpayers billions of dollars to create the vaccine, screwed basically public investments, said, we don't give a damn about you.

00:36:36.000 The question this day and age is, are you willing to stand up to corporate power?

00:36:40.000 That's the fundamental question.

00:36:42.000 The role of government is to be a bulwark for people against profiteers.

00:36:47.000 And if you don't serve in government to give a damn about standing up, you have to have that courage.

00:36:52.000 You have to have some degree of spine.

00:36:53.000 I think Bernie has it.

00:36:54.000 I want more of those types of Bernies. 0.92

00:36:56.000 Unfortunately, there aren't many of them.

00:36:59.000 From our chat now Faz, Purple Revolution says Bernie Sanders is largely seen as a sellout these days and I think that's someone that would broadly speaking being a fan of 2016 Bernie.

00:37:10.000 Miles Driver says anarchy has a bad rap.

00:37:13.000 I think that's because of the sort of constant correlation of anarchy with disorder rather than a truly democratic and decentralized model.

00:37:21.000 And PrideFault says the system must be changed.

00:37:25.000 Why do you think prominent progressives, Faz, like AOC and Bernie, won't endorse Cornel

00:37:31.000 West despite his obvious emphasis on progressive ideals, albeit while standing outside of that

00:37:38.000 system?

00:37:39.000 Well, Russell, you know the answer to that.

00:37:40.000 I think for all of the concern that they have about a Democratic Party that they don't find is standing up against corporate power and standing up for workers enough, it's a better choice than one in which, you know, you have a two-party system, so the choice is dis-Democratic Party or Trump-led Republican Party.

00:37:55.000 If a third party like Cornel West or anybody else enters the fold, In my view, and people can feel free to disagree with it, it just facilitates one or the other.

00:38:04.000 And I think you've got, in that case, Trump having a very hardcore base of people who I don't think believe him.

00:38:12.000 So then you're, I think, pulling votes from a Democratic Party and enabling Donald Trump.

00:38:16.000 When you... I know loads of people in here just absolutely adore Donald Trump because they precisely believe that he is the anti-establishment voice and with every rolling indictment they just see that as a sort of a further medallion on his credentials as an anti-establishment figure and I feel like when a democrat party plainly operates at the end of a string pulled by a donor class when Joe Biden says to a room full of donors nothing's gonna fundamentally change if you elect me In a sense, they're right to opt for a Berserker candidate, whilst I strongly believe what's required is systemic change, and I don't think there's anyone in the political landscape except, you know, I love RFK, I love Cornel West, I was, you know, inspired by Bernie in 2016, and I recognise, Faz, that you know a lot more about this stuff than I do, but what's required

00:39:02.000 is a kind of marriage between the radicalism of independent media and political spaces like this

00:39:07.000 one and meaningful change within the system. Now one area, Faz, where you are plainly committed

00:39:13.000 based on that unions for all banner or t-shirt that's in frame is rights for workers. How do

00:39:21.000 you advocate for unionism and unions to our audience here?

00:39:29.000 Can you tell us about some of the successes?

00:39:30.000 We had Christian Smalls on the show.

00:39:32.000 He did very well as a guest and it's an inspiring story.

00:39:34.000 Someone who was an Amazon worker starting a union and having this kind of success that he did against Amazon and their malpractices.

00:39:41.000 What else can we do?

00:39:43.000 What else should we do to support the union movement?

00:39:45.000 See, you know, this time massive income inequality, the only way in which people get their fair share of workers, they have to organize in solidarity and fight for it. 0.99

00:39:54.000 And we've got class warfare in this damn country. 1.00

00:39:56.000 It has been the rich class dominating and controlling a working class. 1.00

00:40:01.000 And unfortunately, the elites have driven the working class to a place where the only way in which you can get anything is with a damn fight. 0.70

00:40:07.000 And so unionization in this country, although it could be more amicable and peaceful, I wish it were, that you could have peaceful labor-management relations.

00:40:14.000 Right now, we've gotten the middle finger from most corporate CEOs towards the working class, the working class saying, hey, take a look at UPS workers, right?

00:40:21.000 They just say, we have to threaten to strike.

00:40:23.000 United Auto Workers right now, they're right in the midst of a contract, they're threatening to strike.

00:40:27.000 Hollywood workers right now, actors, writers, all On strike because they know.

00:40:32.000 We all felt it during the pandemic.

00:40:34.000 You saw rich getting richer.

00:40:36.000 You felt contempt towards working people, contempt towards essential work, contempt, dishonor, disrespected for the fact that you were putting yourself out there.

00:40:44.000 And now the only way in which you can do anything to improve your lot in life is take matters into your own hands.

00:40:50.000 Don't rely on politicians. 0.98

00:40:51.000 Say, hey, in this damn Starbucks here, in this damn Staten Island warehouse here, in this Apple warehouse, we are going to Talk to our colleagues and demand more. 0.99

00:41:00.000 Demand better, demand respect. 0.99

00:41:02.000 And thankfully, in this last two years, we've seen a rise of that.

00:41:04.000 You get Trader Joe's, you have, as I mentioned, Apple and Starbucks, Amazon.

00:41:08.000 But they're not getting first contracts because the domination of the corporate sphere is unbelievable.

00:41:14.000 It's not only of the economy, it's of the political class. 0.99

00:41:16.000 So there is not a fight, and people just don't talk about these damn things.

00:41:20.000 You know, the whole purpose of a union and worker solidarity, Russell is like, What is the purpose of life? 0.77

00:41:26.000 Is life just to generate profit or is it to have a sense of meaning and accomplishment, to feel respected, to feel like I do something purposeful and then I get paid for it?

00:41:35.000 And we've lost that thread in civic society.

00:41:40.000 Yeah, we really have.

00:41:41.000 And I agree with you that decentralized and democratic models and control over workspaces and a life of meaning that goes way beyond what you have to do just to survive in the face of a nihilistic and increasingly amoral cultural environment is an important part of that.

00:41:56.000 If you're watching us on Rumble right now, give us a rumble!

00:41:59.000 But for God's sake, subscribe to our channel!

00:42:01.000 Join us over on Locals and you can ask whatever questions you want And I'll do my best to get through as many as I can.

00:42:07.000 What do you think, Faz, about the alleged corruption between Hunter and Joe Biden when it comes to his business dealings with Burisma?

00:42:14.000 What do you think about the way the Democrat establishment kept those things off of social media?

00:42:18.000 And how can we restore any faith when there's, you know, in particular, just relating to this story?

00:42:23.000 What do you think is going on?

00:42:25.000 And how can we support a president that won't even debate progressive candidates, truly progressive candidates like RFK?

00:42:31.000 Russell, it's not complicated what's going on.

00:42:33.000 You got a guy who made tens of millions of dollars in Hunter Biden off of the fact that his last name is Biden.

00:42:38.000 And it's like, this kind of, the scandal is that the corruption is always there.

00:42:42.000 A rich class, an elite class, a well-connected class, their sons, their daughters, take, you know, the Bush family sons, the, you know, you take the, you know, obviously the Trump family son, Jared Kushner's got a $2 billion deal with the Society of Royal Prince.

00:42:56.000 This kind of access to capital, to money, is always there for people who are in the well-connected, connected political elite class.

00:43:02.000 That's what should be angering to everybody that they don't have an access to this

00:43:06.000 and people are taking advantage of them.

00:43:08.000 So it's obviously Hunter Biden is just one case, Jared Kushner is another, there's a lot of them.

00:43:13.000 And so like to my mind, this is where maybe you and I disagree,

00:43:17.000 is that Joe Biden's own ethics, I think are better than his son's.

00:43:21.000 I think when he was in Congress from 73 to 2008, right?

00:43:26.000 Never traded a stock in that whole period of time.

00:43:28.000 Think of how rich he could have gotten off of trading Lockheed or owning Amazon.

00:43:32.000 Never traded stock.

00:43:33.000 Why?

00:43:34.000 Because he's like, no, my service is to be for the public and I can't, I won't be compromised by owning stocks and making money off of that.

00:43:41.000 So you end up becoming one of the poorer senators.

00:43:43.000 But his values are not reflected in the way Hunter goes about his, And so, you know, it's a travesty, but I also think there's a little bit of a both sides-erism there, Russell, to be honest with you.

00:43:54.000 It's like, you know, is Hunter making tens of millions of dollars as bad as, you know, X, Y, and Z?

00:44:01.000 And you see these kinds of like apples and apples types of comparisons that don't really line up, but it's bad, right? 1.00

00:44:07.000 It's a corrupt damn system. 0.97

00:44:09.000 Baz, I really admire your determination to do something positive within the system, and I strongly support the work you're doing to get workers to organise and unionise and take power back into their own hands, because I agree with you, the establishment elites aren't going to do anything about it. 0.99

00:44:26.000 I obviously don't agree with you about Joe Biden, you know, because I just, I've been sort of blown away by the level of corruption that I've witnessed, but I completely obviously respect your perspective.

00:44:35.000 Can we still disagree?

00:44:36.000 I mean, I appreciate everything you just said, Russ.

00:44:38.000 They won't come on our channels.

00:44:40.000 And so, you know, by the association, we just end up drifting more into libertarian spaces.

00:44:45.000 And it starts to seem like the democratic establishment doesn't want to talk to ordinary working Americans.

00:44:51.000 That's what it starts to feel like, you know?

00:44:52.000 So put a word in for us, if you will.

00:44:54.000 Can we still disagree?

00:44:56.000 I mean, I appreciate everything you just said, Russ.

00:44:57.000 The way you framed it and the way I firmly believe.

00:45:00.000 If you said something, talking about somebody's bumhole or whatever, and that might not be my cup of tea, I'm saying, I can respect disagreement.

00:45:08.000 Who gives a damn?

00:45:09.000 We're in a civil society.

00:45:10.000 If you're going to live with real people out in the world, they're going to have different viewpoints.

00:45:15.000 And my view has always been persuasion.

00:45:18.000 There's somebody with whom you disagree.

00:45:20.000 Talk to them, and maybe share the way in which you think, and respectfully say, hey, maybe we just disagree about this.

00:45:26.000 You go on your merry way, you go on mine.

00:45:27.000 But I bet you and I can find areas of common agreement a lot of the times, and then reserve, OK, well, we disagree on this.

00:45:34.000 That's fine.

00:45:35.000 We can continue to have a decent debate.

00:45:37.000 But I think that is being lost in these alternative channels like yourself.

00:45:40.000 We're trying to do it.

00:45:41.000 Can we just have honest disagreement?

00:45:44.000 That's fine. 0.99

00:45:45.000 Bullshit, like, rancorous, partisan disagreements that are nonsense, but just, like, honestly, having an honest conversation is so hard to have now. 0.98

00:45:52.000 I agree with you, Faz, on so much, and thank you very much for taking the time, unlike many people that are part of the establishment that you are, you know, whilst being critical of, you are being optimistic about. 0.98

00:46:02.000 I respect that very much, and I appreciate you coming on, and you can support Faz's work by going to perfectunion.us, particularly if you, you know, like, remember what he said about every Starbucks, every Staten Island warehouse?

00:46:14.000 Those things, I think, are Very important.

00:46:16.000 And, you know, like he said, we should be able to disagree with one another.

00:46:19.000 What's the alternative?

00:46:20.000 Siloed, federalist, autocratic, well, no, autonomous communities.

00:46:26.000 Also, as has been pointed out by the gallery, Faz did say bumhole to his credit.

00:46:30.000 That's not even an American phrase, is it? 0.98

00:46:32.000 Like, you would say butthole.

00:46:34.000 It also seems like that was the thing that he most disagreed with you about. 0.93

00:46:36.000 Look, I love some of the stuff you're seeing there.

00:46:40.000 I can disagree when you say things about bumholes. 0.99

00:46:42.000 I think Paul Saladino is doing a good job trying to shit clean. 0.98

00:46:48.000 Paul Saladino has simply managed Discovered B-Days. 0.98

00:46:51.000 That's all there is to it.

00:46:52.000 We have got some fantastic content coming up for you this week.

00:46:55.000 I'm almost... I can't even bring myself to say this.

00:46:58.000 I've got to say it in Australian.

00:47:00.000 On Tuesday, we've got Alison... I'm just doing normal.

00:47:03.000 We've got Alison Young coming on. 0.99

00:47:05.000 She's an expert on lab leaks. 1.00

00:47:06.000 Why is that relevant?

00:47:07.000 You'll find out if you watch her on Tuesday.

00:47:09.000 Critical Drinker's on!

00:47:11.000 And I'm going to say, what the hell is going on on Rotten Tomatoes?

00:47:14.000 And who owns Rotten Tomatoes?

00:47:16.000 And what is the success of Sound of Freedom?

00:47:18.000 And should we make a movie together?

00:47:19.000 Me and Gareth as a couple of cops who might see the world different, but by God, we get the job done with a little help from my friends, y'all.

00:47:27.000 And also on Friday, Dr... Bumholes. 0.77

00:47:32.000 It's a new movie.

00:47:33.000 Bumholes. 0.88

00:47:34.000 Faz Shakir, will you join us in our new project, Bumholes? 1.00

00:47:38.000 Oh, no, really, Russell, I think I want to stay within the establishment and help Brony to try and get these positives.

00:47:43.000 No, no, Faz.

00:47:44.000 Bumholes. 0.88

00:47:44.000 That wasn't the question, Faz. 0.88

00:47:46.000 Faz, stop trying to obfuscate. 0.96

00:47:48.000 We want a clear... Bumholes! 0.84

00:47:50.000 Bumholes! 0.96

00:47:52.000 And Dr. John Campbell's coming on.

00:47:54.000 What?

00:47:54.000 Oh, it's nothing to do with bumholes.

00:47:56.000 Yeah, no, he's not.

00:47:57.000 Dr. John Campbell's not coming on Bumholes.

00:47:59.000 No, no.

00:48:00.000 What kind of show you're trying to get us to make here, Gavin?

00:48:02.000 I'm trying my hardest to create a revolutionary movement.

00:48:06.000 I misunderstood, sorry.

00:48:07.000 An independent media space where we can create new glorious alliances, where free speech can flourish.

00:48:12.000 Look at this on January the 6th.

00:48:13.000 This is from Becky from Bemidji.

00:48:16.000 Russell and Gareth are hitting the nail on the head as usual.

00:48:18.000 January the 6th and the ensuing propaganda is part of the Deep State's ongoing campaign to exert ever more authoritarian control.

00:48:24.000 True that, baby!

00:48:26.000 And this is just the interview for Faz Shakir.

00:48:28.000 I've already done that and it went exceptionally... Bumholes! 1.00

00:48:31.000 Bumholes to everybody! 0.99

00:48:34.000 Remember, if you click that little red button, not the bumhole, and join our locals community...

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00:48:43.000 Wouldn't you like to be sidling up to Dr. John tomorrow?

00:48:46.000 You get live guided meditations.

00:48:48.000 Maybe you're, uh, it could be to do your bum or could be an entirely different matter. 0.87

00:48:51.000 I'll guide you through meditations.

00:48:53.000 And also you join our behind the scenes meetings.

00:48:56.000 You can get stuck in, tell us what to ask.

00:48:58.000 Tell us what to do.

00:49:00.000 Have you been curious, Gareth, about those, you don't know what to say yet.

00:49:04.000 Bio weapons, isn't it?

00:49:05.000 Actually it was that, yeah.

00:49:06.000 Are you curious, Gareth and everyone else, about bio weapons being developed in Ukraine?

00:49:11.000 Are you curious to see yet another conspiracy theory migrate from the periphery right to the center?

00:49:18.000 Because guess what?

00:49:19.000 There are biolabs in Ukraine.

00:49:23.000 RFK, he didn't tell me so, but by God did he tell Tucker.

00:49:26.000 We've had both those people on this show.

00:49:28.000 This show is becoming... I'd say this is very much in danger of becoming a cultural hub.

00:49:32.000 I'm glad it followed Ultral Hub.

00:49:34.000 Yeah, what did you think I was going to say?

00:49:36.000 Cult.

00:49:37.000 Ural hub. It's becoming a cult. Who knows? Why don't we start our own independent communities? 1.00

00:49:43.000 What's wrong with that? You're meant to be my anti-cult campaign manager, aren't you?

00:49:46.000 You're meant to say, not a cult. Not a cult. If it were a cult, you'd get regular access to them babies, I tell you

00:49:53.000 Here's the news. No, here's the effing news!

00:49:53.000 that!

00:49:56.000 No, here's the fucking news! 1.00

00:50:02.000 Fire weapons! 1.00

00:50:04.000 Was Ukraine some kind of silicone valley for bioweapons? 0.62

00:50:08.000 And what's the connection between gain-of-function research and bioweapons?

00:50:13.000 RFK's got some interesting things to say.

00:50:17.000 Today we're talking about Tucker Carlson's conversation with RFK in which RFK spoke about the biolabs in Ukraine.

00:50:24.000 Now remember at the beginning of the Ukraine-Russia conflict in conspiracy land lots of people saying there's bioweapons over there, there's biolabs, people are making bioweapons and that was one of those things that got sort of shut down.

00:50:33.000 Then it started to be incrementally built upon in a slightly more diplomatic way like what about that That Victoria Nuland, she's worked for successive administrations and she was involved in the 2014 events in Ukraine that led to that change of government, don't call it a coup. 0.95

00:50:47.000 So we're starting to see more and more, I believe, the intersection of giddy wild conspiracy theories and then sort of rather more mundane bureaucratic manipulation and frankly what amounts to American foreign policy.

00:50:58.000 Using various sites across the world to create either pharmaceutical opportunity, let's call it, or bioweapons.

00:51:07.000 And is there an intersection between gain-of-function research and bioweapons?

00:51:12.000 In short, is gain-of-function research essentially about creating bioweapons?

00:51:17.000 As I understand gain-of-function research is by taking something that goes an horrible nasty little virus.

00:51:21.000 I go, yeah, there's a little virus.

00:51:23.000 You know what I think?

00:51:24.000 Go on.

00:51:24.000 It's not bad enough.

00:51:25.000 Let's make it worse.

00:51:27.000 Let's have a look at Tucker Carlson and RFK's conversation and get into this in depth.

00:51:32.000 The factor means there are US biolabs in Ukraine.

00:51:34.000 Why would we have biolabs in Ukraine? 1.00

00:51:37.000 We have bio labs in Ukraine because we're developing bioweapons. 0.89

00:51:41.000 And those bio-weapons are using all kinds of new synthetic biology and CRISPR technology and genetic engineering techniques that were not available to previous generations.

00:51:53.000 And they can make frightening, frightening stuff.

00:51:56.000 A top line consideration is whether or not you want bioweapons being developed.

00:52:01.000 Are we not already in a precipitous state when it comes to global warfare?

00:52:04.000 Don't we already have enough nuclear weapons to annihilate the planet many times over?

00:52:08.000 Have we not recently seen the dangers of meddling in nature's domain?

00:52:12.000 If you believe the Wuhan lab leak theory, for example, which hasn't been proven yet but seems increasingly likely, Is probably in some way or another funded by your tax dollars, bioweapons.

00:52:22.000 I don't know how else they're functioning.

00:52:24.000 I don't know if they're doing fun runs or sort of car washes to raise money for these bioweapons. 0.52

00:52:29.000 Presumably it's coming from American taxpayers at some point.

00:52:31.000 When do we get to ask fundamental questions about how we want our civilization to be run?

00:52:36.000 We just accept the fact that we're subject to the whims of global corporatism.

00:52:40.000 That's what much of the frustration and tension is, I believe, that's not even articulately expressed.

00:52:45.000 When you're dismissive of, like, MAGA people in their caps or people protesting for a whole host of reasons in the streets of the United States, there's a sense that things aren't right, things ain't fair, these institutions don't care about us, they're not listening, I'm angry.

00:52:58.000 And just because you can't say what it is really is global corporations have taken over our democratic institutions, spend money abroad on things I don't care about and might actually be detrimental not only to my life but the life of the planet itself and I'm sick of it.

00:53:10.000 Why don't I ever get to vote for it?

00:53:11.000 How come I'm paying $700 towards relief for the Hawaii fires and yet $900 per annum so far on funding the Ukraine war?

00:53:19.000 How much of that goes to biolab technology?

00:53:21.000 Why did they lie about it in the first place?

00:53:23.000 So many questions.

00:53:24.000 You know what they'll say publicly?

00:53:25.000 These biolabs, they're not dangerous, there's nothing to worry about.

00:53:28.000 Why don't you want the Russians getting your hands on them then? 1.00

00:53:30.000 Well, the Russians, you can't trust those guys. 1.00

00:53:33.000 If in those biolabs all they're doing is racing mice through a maze, why are they so worried about the Russians getting in? 1.00

00:53:38.000 Do you know what the Russians getting in there? 0.66

00:53:40.000 What if they meddle with my most favourite mouses?

00:53:43.000 They can't simultaneously be doing innocuous and innocent mouse experiments in those biolabs and be really worried that the Russians are going to get in there, can they? 0.86

00:53:51.000 When the Patriot Act reopened the bioweapons arms race in 2001, the Pentagon began putting a lot of money into bioweapons, but they were nervous at that time.

00:54:02.000 Because if you violate Geneva, the Geneva Convention, it's a hanging offense.

00:54:07.000 And they weren't sure that that Provision in the Patriot Act would actually hold up as a loophole to treaties that had been ratified by Congress.

00:54:17.000 So they were nervous about actually going full force into bioweapons development.

00:54:22.000 So they transferred the authority for biosecurity to one agency in the HHS, called the National Institute for Infectious and Allergic Diseases, run by Anthony Fauci.

00:54:36.000 So Anthony Fauci got all the responsibility for bioweapons development.

00:54:41.000 He got at that time a 68% raise from the Pentagon in order to do that work.

00:54:48.000 When you hear a story like that you realize there's more to political corruption within American governmental institutions than just Donald Trump saying that he won an election that other people say he didn't win.

00:55:01.000 It seems there's more complexity to it because you don't I really want someone who's in charge of a medical and health organization, taking huge funds, getting huge pay rises, involved in gain-of-function research, involved in things that might be bioweapons that take their funding from confusing agencies, that have relationships with big pharma.

00:55:18.000 That's not the kind of clarity that we could have in our institutions, and I would argue should have.

00:55:23.000 This is a health organization, so what do they do?

00:55:25.000 Well, they're solely focused on the well-being, welfare, and good health of American people.

00:55:30.000 Also on the side, they're making terrifying weapons.

00:55:32.000 That's not how you want it run.

00:55:33.000 And do you notice that the Patriot Act was almost like the COVID of its age?

00:55:37.000 There was a massive crisis and emergency in the form of the 9-11 attacks, and it was utilized to introduce a raft of regulation that meant that we could be surveilled, that meant that we could be censored, that meant we could be observed, that meant that people could be arrested for espionage under what increasingly looked like questionable circumstances.

00:55:53.000 And also, somehow, they went we're going to start a bunch of biolabs. 0.94

00:55:56.000 Is it likely, let me know in the comments in the chat below, that the Covid pandemic was

00:56:01.000 used in a similar way to introduce regulations, legislations and ideas that previously people would have

00:56:06.000 rejected out of hand as being an infringement on our civil rights. When there's an emergency

00:56:10.000 or a crisis it's used to create opportunities and the Patriot Act, you know, which pertains

00:56:14.000 to an event 22 years ago now, is still being utilised to respond to what? Saddam Hussein 0.62

00:56:19.000 still might have weapons of mass destruction?

00:56:21.000 every bioweapon needs a vaccine.

00:56:25.000 So you develop them side by side.

00:56:27.000 Because in 100% of the cases, when you deploy a bioweapon, there's blowback.

00:56:33.000 Your side also gets sick.

00:56:35.000 So in order to deploy one offensively, you need a vaccine to counter it.

00:56:40.000 So you need to vaccinate your team before you deploy it.

00:56:43.000 Is this one of those moments where we could step back as a species and say, are we heading in the right direction?

00:56:48.000 We've got laboratories where one part of the laboratory goes, we're going to invent the most lethal, deadly, awful weapons to destroy the lives of innocent people abroad who we temporarily at this time don't agree with.

00:56:59.000 You guys over there, come up with a vaccine for that because it's inevitable, 100% likely in fact, that we're all going to get sick from this crazy thing.

00:57:06.000 Who's funding this?

00:57:07.000 You are!

00:57:08.000 We spray her with the hose, leaving us relatively dry.

00:57:11.000 Relatively?

00:57:12.000 Well, there's bound to be some splashback.

00:57:14.000 Those two things are developed through a field of science called gain-of-function science, where you take an infectious microbe, and you amplify its infectivity.

00:57:27.000 Or you make it jump species, so it may kill monkeys, now you make it kill humans.

00:57:32.000 And you adopt it that way, and there's all kinds of methods, and then you make it immune When I hear that explained, it's like if someone explained the concept of the monarchy to me now.

00:57:47.000 Like, you know, what we're going to do is we're going to get a microbe that's deadly, that's killing monkeys.

00:57:51.000 Yes, and cure those monkeys, right?

00:57:53.000 Because we all love monkeys.

00:57:54.000 No, we're going to make it worse.

00:57:56.000 Oh, poor monkeys. 0.53

00:57:57.000 I've not finished yet.

00:57:58.000 I make it infectious to the mouse and our children.

00:58:00.000 Yes, us and our children.

00:58:02.000 Don't worry, there's some guys over there working on a vaccine.

00:58:04.000 How's it going, guys?

00:58:05.000 It's going expensive!

00:58:07.000 If someone said, should we have kings and queens that we fund, I'd go, no, don't bother.

00:58:11.000 Don't bother.

00:58:11.000 It's a waste of money.

00:58:12.000 Should we have a review around how we're organizing society?

00:58:15.000 No.

00:58:16.000 Let's keep it as it is.

00:58:17.000 Maybe we can have it a bit different, but not much.

00:58:20.000 For 2,800 years since Hippocrates, doctors have been trying to figure out how to make microbes less infectious and less deadly and develop antibiotics and therapeutics to do that.

00:58:31.000 Well, the guys who are involved in this, there's 36,000.

00:58:36.000 What are called life scientists, but they're actually death scientists, um, who are now employed full-time in developing, you know, microbes that will, can be used to kill people.

00:58:48.000 How was work today?

00:58:49.000 What did you do?

00:58:49.000 Quite good.

00:58:50.000 You know deadly viruses?

00:58:52.000 Yes.

00:58:53.000 Well, I made them much worse.

00:58:55.000 Night-night!

00:58:56.000 Did you wash your hands?

00:58:57.000 We've developed a vaccine.

00:58:57.000 No need.

00:58:59.000 I bought one home.

00:58:59.000 You can have it for free.

00:59:00.000 But everyone else...

00:59:02.000 Let's have a look at this in more detail.

00:59:04.000 The US military outsourced some of its biological weapons research to the government installed

00:59:09.000 by the 2014 coup in Kiev, Democrat presidential hopeful Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has said in

00:59:14.000 an interview.

00:59:15.000 Isn't it ridiculous that we can't go, no, they would never do-

00:59:17.000 The American government?

00:59:18.000 Create biolabs in an unstable territory adjacent to a historic enemy? 1.00

00:59:23.000 You can't rule it out, can you, as a possibility?

00:59:25.000 This will probably get called conspiracy theory, fake news.

00:59:27.000 It certainly did a few years ago, or at the beginning of the pandemic era, and the beginning of the war, and all this constant rolling, never-ending crisis that will seem to be snowballing into one another now, like gain-of-function research.

00:59:38.000 It's like, get a news story, make it a bit worse, here's your new news story!

00:59:43.000 According to Kennedy, the bioweapons program has operated under the guise of life sciences research, such as gain-of-function experiments on viruses and other pathogens, ultimately overseen by Dr. Anthony Fauci, who headed the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases between 1984 and 2022.

00:59:59.000 At the beginning of this, he gave so many public speeches and appearances that were sort of conciliatory and consoling, like he was just sort of Uncle Anthony Fauci.

01:00:08.000 How are we gonna handle this?

01:00:09.000 Well, you know, wash your hands, keep distance, wear your mask.

01:00:09.000 How are we gonna handle this?

01:00:12.000 If you need to go out, you can go out.

01:00:14.000 Like, you know, it's all very sort of kind of friendly and avuncular.

01:00:16.000 It's demonstrable that this is someone who's involved in gain-of-function research, serious and heavy payments.

01:00:21.000 Dr. Fauci! 0.55

01:00:25.000 You're not the kind of shaved Santa Claus that we represent.

01:00:29.000 People were dancing around singing songs about him.

01:00:30.000 We think he was on talk shows as a sort of celebrity. 0.96

01:00:33.000 It's ridiculous.

01:00:34.000 This is what happens when you have massive, centralised, authoritarian, globalist, corporatist systems that never ask people, the very people that are funding it, whether what they're doing is what those people want.

01:00:45.000 And that applies to this ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia, research of this nature, the response to the pandemic, institutions like the WHO and NATO.

01:00:53.000 You might not want them, but you're funding them.

01:00:55.000 I think we should have political parties that are going, listen, do you want this stuff?

01:00:57.000 Because some of it seems very corrupt.

01:00:59.000 Because I don't know anyone who's like, I love paying taxes!

01:01:02.000 At best, you're like, I pay my taxes because it's the law.

01:01:05.000 And I hope on some level it's helping people, like kids or hospitals or something.

01:01:10.000 You work all day.

01:01:11.000 You don't even get an invoice, do you?

01:01:13.000 You don't even get a breakdown of... So what did you spend it on, guys?

01:01:15.000 Let's have a look.

01:01:16.000 Bio what?

01:01:17.000 You're racing mice through mazes in Kiev.

01:01:19.000 When some of these bugs escaped from laboratories in the US back in 2014, the Obama administration banned gain-of-function research, Kennedy added, so Fauci outsourced it overseas.

01:01:29.000 Well, that can't lead to any problems unless there's a war and it leaks out of the labs because they're not properly looked after.

01:01:34.000 Hopefully, all that information isn't somehow being lost.

01:01:36.000 2019, we've had.

01:01:38.000 A lot of them went to Ukraine, Kennedy told Carson.

01:01:40.000 I don't really want to hear Ukraine connected to anything other than there's this war there where Russia criminally invaded them and there's a humanitarian effort to support the people of Ukraine.

01:01:51.000 Who's not down with that?

01:01:52.000 We're all down with that, right?

01:01:53.000 But then you sort of hear, oh god, another thing about Ukraine you should know, the president's son's got all sorts of really favourable deals with their energy company.

01:02:00.000 Oh, another thing.

01:02:00.000 The American government have got a bunch of biolabs over there.

01:02:03.000 I mean, like, what's next about Ukraine are we going to learn?

01:02:06.000 A lot of them went to Ukraine, Kennedy told Carlson, while some of the researchers moved to Wuhan, China Laboratory, the suspected origination point for the COVID-19 pandemic.

01:02:14.000 Like, these are the sort of places that are on the news a lot, aren't they?

01:02:17.000 Like Wuhan, Ukraine.

01:02:18.000 What's the first thing you think of Ukraine?

01:02:20.000 Uh, there's this war there where American taxpayers are funding it.

01:02:23.000 Good.

01:02:24.000 What's the first thing about Wuhan?

01:02:25.000 Well, I've only really heard of Wuhan.

01:02:26.000 Terrible wet markets.

01:02:27.000 Do be careful in those wet markets.

01:02:29.000 You could pick up something disgusting.

01:02:30.000 But at a price that's right!

01:02:32.000 Most of the research was funded by the Pentagon.

01:02:34.000 That's weird, isn't it?

01:02:35.000 Or by USAID, which Kennedy described as a CIA cutout.

01:02:39.000 That's extraordinary.

01:02:40.000 So the deep state fund secondary agencies to subcontract out to opaque, obscure Endeavors that are difficult to understand and inventory.

01:02:51.000 Certainly it's not the kind of transparency and clarity that Joe Biden was promising when he marched gleefully into office, is it?

01:02:57.000 The US has long dismissed claims about the biological research laboratories in Ukraine as Russian propaganda, until senior State Department official Victoria Newland confirmed their existence at a 2022 Senate hearing.

01:03:08.000 The Pentagon continues to insist the research is neither illegal nor intended for military purposes.

01:03:13.000 Okay, so it's just, we're just doing some research in Ukraine.

01:03:15.000 Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?

01:03:19.000 Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to Isn't it odd what malevolence looks like these days?

01:03:38.000 Just a nice friendly looking woman in a cardigan talking about biolabs in Ukraine and the concern that Russia might get hold of it while nervously fiddling with her pen.

01:03:48.000 In this also is the modern assumption that there's nothing wrong with biolabs when America's in control of them, but if Russia's in control of them, suddenly they're bad. 0.99

01:03:57.000 Either cluster bombs and biolabs are bad, or they're not. 1.00

01:04:01.000 And we have to recognise that this is the kind of nihilism and lack of principles that's leading to the general dystopic feelings of a society falling apart that many of us are experiencing even beyond the confines of this mad conflict.

01:04:14.000 If there's nothing to worry about in those biolabs, why is it a problem if Russia gets there? 1.00

01:04:17.000 So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.

01:04:30.000 What you're being asked to believe is that there's some fundamental difference between American research and Russian conduct.

01:04:36.000 Like the Americans Come on, guys, let's just create some new medicines to help everybody.

01:04:40.000 Let's make this virus a bit worse, then make a vaccine so we can just help people.

01:04:44.000 Wait a minute!

01:04:46.000 We could use this to create a superweapon!

01:04:51.000 It's not like it had an...

01:04:52.000 Innocent purpose and then Russia is the agent of change and malevolence is plainly a pretty secretive and Malfeasance endeavor that takes place on foreign soil because under the Obama administration it was decreed to be too dangerous to do in America So they as part of their deal presumably of supporting the 2014 coup that Victoria Newlands was by coincidence involved with They're able to continue doing at least gain-of-function research, which, according to RFK, is synonymous with creating weapons. 0.62

01:05:20.000 And in a way, if gain-of-function means you take a biological substance and you give it the ability to cross species, or you make it more infectious and bad and just hope to God that those guys in Wuhan are washing their hands and keeping the windows shut, that is a type of weapon. 0.76

01:05:33.000 It's certainly irresponsible.

01:05:34.000 Where I like to invite you to come with me is brawl down and go, do you want this even happening?

01:05:39.000 Can't we be doing something else?

01:05:41.000 I find it offensive.

01:05:42.000 Nuland's bizarre admission that Ukraine has biological research facilities that are dangerous enough to warrant concern that they could fall into Russian hands ironically constituted more decisive evidence of the existence of such programs in Ukraine than what was offered in 2002 and 2003 to corroborate US allegations about Saddam's chemical and biological programs in Iraq.

01:06:03.000 Wow, that's more evidence than the world went to war on 20 years ago.

01:06:08.000 That's a good way of putting it.

01:06:09.000 Any attempt to claim that Ukraine's biological facilities are just benign and standard medical labs is negated by Newland's explicitly grave concern that Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of those facilities and that the US government therefore is right this minute working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.

01:06:29.000 What we're being invited to believe is with an entirely innocent enterprise, but actually though,

01:06:33.000 the Russians, they'd be able to put this in that jar and switch that on and turn on 0.99

01:06:36.000 the Bunsen burner and knock over the mouse's cage and oh no, they've got a missile.

01:06:41.000 That's what we're being invited to believe.

01:06:43.000 And there's no doubt that a bad person or a bad set of people could use almost anything

01:06:49.000 to create chaos, but what I'm arguing is that the bad people are already doing that and

01:06:53.000 you're funding it.

01:06:54.000 The only reason to be quite concerned about these biological research facilities falling

01:06:58.000 into Russian hands is if they contain sophisticated materials that Russian scientists have not

01:07:02.000 yet developed on their own and which could be used for nefarious purposes, i.e. either

01:07:06.000 either advanced biological weapons or dual-use research that has the potential to be weaponized.

01:07:10.000 You see how we're all having to develop this new vocabulary and get this new education?

01:07:13.000 When I first heard dual-use research, it was reading RFK's book, and at that point it was like, oh god, this is a bit out there, isn't it?

01:07:20.000 Even though it's obviously really thoroughly researched and actually quite dense, it's not a frivolous piece of writing, it's just some of the concepts and ideas in there are so out there, you think, that can't be true.

01:07:28.000 And then you just, a few weeks later, you read it in the news or you see a congressional hearing and you go, we're a bit I'm worried about some of the stuff in the labs we might have left over there if that fell into the wrong hands. 0.98

01:07:38.000 I guess what I'm saying is now my starting point is they're probably up to some malevolent shit and they're probably gonna lie about it.

01:07:44.000 We probably have to break down all of these agencies and have a real overview of what it means to be America or the United Kingdom or whatever your country is. 0.76

01:07:53.000 Is this what you want?

01:07:54.000 Who is it now we're supposed to be scared of?

01:07:57.000 Who's scarier than these lunatics that are there doing gain-of-function research and dual research and creating these labs and then having to admit oh sorry we were involved in 2014 and oh yes we did have bio labs?

01:08:07.000 The only way you could trust them is if on day one of the war Joe Biden had gone listen this is a bit mental actually because like Ukraine and Russia you can see there's an escalating tension there and Well I think, morally, we should support Ukraine because they're decent people and Russia are the aggressor in this instance. 0.54

01:08:19.000 I've got to be honest though, we provoked them in 2014, we reneged on a deal we had not to infringe on former Soviet Union territories, we've got biolabs in Ukraine we're going to have to be double careful of, and one of my kids has got a cracking job at Burisma. 1.00

01:08:30.000 He didn't say that, did he? 0.99

01:08:31.000 So now that it's all coming out I think, you fucking liars! 1.00

01:08:34.000 What is in those Ukrainian biological labs that makes them so worrisome and dangerous? 1.00

01:08:38.000 And did the US assistance extend to construction and development to the biological research facilities themselves?

01:08:43.000 All we're doing over there is making L'Oreal lipsticks for little mice.

01:08:48.000 And those labs are just mice and rabbits smothered in lipstick.

01:08:51.000 But if the Russians get hold of those sexy mice and rabbits, there's no telling what they'll do. 0.99

01:08:56.000 The indisputable reality is that despite long-standing international conventions banning development of biological weapons, all large powerful countries conduct research that At the very least, has the capacity to be converted into biological weapons.

01:09:08.000 The work conducted under the guise of defensive research can, and sometimes is, easily converted into the banned weapons themselves.

01:09:15.000 Recall that according to the FBI, the 2001 Amfrax attacks that terrorized the nation came from a U.S.

01:09:20.000 Army research scientist, Dr. Bruce Evans, working at the U.S.

01:09:24.000 Army's infectious disease research lab in Fort Detrick, Maryland.

01:09:28.000 The claim was that the army was merely conducting defensive research to find vaccines and other protections against weaponised anthrax, but to do so, the army had to create highly weaponised anthrax strains, which Ivins then unleashed as a weapon.

01:09:40.000 The lesson about the severe dangers of so-called dual-use research into biological weapons was relearned over the last two years as a result of the Covid pandemic.

01:09:48.000 While the origins of that virus have not yet been proven with this positive evidence, Though remember, fact checkers declared early on it was definitively established that it came from species jumping and that any suggestion of a lab leak was a conspiracy theory.

01:10:01.000 What is certain is that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was manipulating various coronavirus strains to make them more contagious and lethal. 0.86

01:10:08.000 The justification was that doing so is necessary to study how vaccines could be developed.

01:10:13.000 But regardless of intent, cultivating dangerous biological strains has the capacity to kill huge numbers of people.

01:10:18.000 All of this illustrates that research that is classified as defensive can easily be converted, deliberately or otherwise, into extremely destructive biological weapons.

01:10:27.000 Does any of this remind you of another story?

01:10:30.000 Are there some names that keep recurring?

01:10:31.000 Let's go a little deeper into this.

01:10:33.000 Senator Rand Paul has referred Dr. Anthony Fauci to the Justice Department for investigation into possible criminal prosecution for allegedly lying under oath to Congress about his knowledge of gain-of-function research conducted at China's Wuhan virus lab.

01:10:47.000 So there you have it.

01:10:48.000 Two of the most preeminent, dominant news stories of recent times appear to have peculiar and confusing elements.

01:10:56.000 No wonder there's a march to censor and control independent media and the ability to communicate and discuss all facets of complicated stories like these, when continually we see stories that are first dismissed as conspiracy theories down the line become more and more demonstrably True, or at least worthy of consideration.

01:11:13.000 As Glenn Greenwald demonstrated there, the story of the Wuhan lab leak went from being something that was simply dismissed to something that seems increasingly plausible.

01:11:20.000 As with Tucker's conversation with RFK.

01:11:22.000 Biolabs was once the preserve of nutjobs like you and me, sat in our tinfoil hats wondering about why the world seems so unfair and how certain disasters appear to benefit certain interests while annihilating life for ordinary people.

01:11:36.000 But don't these laboratories give you the perfect metaphor Irresponsible, for-profit research that advances the interests of the military-industrial complex that, if it fell into the wrong hands, could be devastating for the world.

01:11:48.000 Isn't that the very kind of unchecked power that we need to stop through new democratic processes, through a new manifesto of politics, through new changes, through new politicians, I hope like RFK, that would bring these practices to an end right now.

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01:12:02.000 They're dangerous.

01:12:03.000 They should stop.

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