Stay Free - Russel Brand - Julia Rock & Dan Cohen (Ohio & The New Fauci)

00:00:00.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:01.000 Thanks for watching Stay Free with Russell Brand.

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00:00:15.000 Watching from Ohio, don't drink the water, Danny S. Don't drink the water.

00:00:19.000 Not till you've heard everything that we've got to tell you.

00:00:22.000 If you're watching on YouTube, you'll probably just see COVID misinformation coming up.

00:00:27.000 Probably there's a way of clicking over just under that.

00:00:28.000 We've got a great show for you today.

00:00:30.000 We're talking about Biden in Ukraine.

00:00:32.000 Where should the President of the United States be right now?

00:00:34.000 You can tell us in the chat.

00:00:35.000 Should it be in Ukraine?

00:00:37.000 Should it be in Ohio?

00:00:39.000 We've got a great guest on the show coming from the leather.

00:00:41.000 She's talking about the hypocrisy of Biden's handling of the Ohio train wreck and the way that he's lined himself up with corporations Rather than ordinary Americans, precisely at the moment there's an opportunity to show how much you care about the environment.

00:00:54.000 We all say we care about the environment.

00:00:56.000 Look how easy it is.

00:00:56.000 I care about the environment.

00:00:57.000 How about this?

00:00:58.000 Stand up for ordinary people when there's an environmental disaster that's going to be costly to corporate interests.

00:01:02.000 Where are you now?

00:01:03.000 Where's the caring for the environment now?

00:01:05.000 I'm in Ukraine.

00:01:06.000 What are you in Ukraine for?

00:01:07.000 For the humanitarian crisis?

00:01:08.000 Or is there going to be some... What's that?

00:01:12.000 BlackRock, who's your president?

00:01:13.000 Who's he the president of?

00:01:14.000 The American people or American globalist corporations?

00:01:17.000 These are some of the questions we'll be asking.

00:01:19.000 We've got another fantastic guest coming up as well in the show.

00:01:22.000 Gareth, we've got so many guests, there's hardly time for me to have an on-screen assistant.

00:01:26.000 Dan Cohen's coming on.

00:01:29.000 He's going to be talking to us about the NIH's search for the new Fauci.

00:01:33.000 Please God me get the job.

00:01:35.000 Please God me get the job.

00:01:36.000 I've been a lobbyist for Big Pharma.

00:01:37.000 I've worked hard at Pfizer.

00:01:39.000 I'm a friend with Albert Baller and by God do I wish I was a little bit taller.

00:01:43.000 It's likely though that it's going to be a man called Dr. Peter Hotez who's made a lot of nice WHO propaganda comparing people that don't like taking certain medicines, remember We're still on YouTube.

00:01:54.000 Two actual terrorists.

00:01:55.000 But what are they these days?

00:01:57.000 So once we click over onto Rumble, we'll be talking to you about some new research around the estimates of COVID deaths.

00:02:03.000 We can't tell you too much, but you know what you thought anyway?

00:02:08.000 It's that.

00:02:09.000 Albert Baller, though, he'll surely tell us the truth sooner or later.

00:02:13.000 Remember this tweet from Albert Baller.

00:02:15.000 Transparency is important.

00:02:17.000 We all know that.

00:02:18.000 So I'd like to provide greater clarity around the timelines for Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine and the three key areas where we must demonstrate success in order to submit for emergency use authorization or approval.

00:02:29.000 OK, so it's transparency that interests Albert Baller.

00:02:33.000 He prefers that to profit.

00:02:35.000 You give Albert Baller a simple choice.

00:02:37.000 What do you want, mate?

00:02:38.000 A big pile of money for the shareholders?

00:02:40.000 Or is it that principle of transparency?

00:02:43.000 Albert Baller, same every time.

00:02:45.000 Transparency, transparency, transparency.

00:02:47.000 That's why when his emails have been released, the Israel court has ordered the Ministry of Health to release the agreement with Pfizer.

00:02:54.000 Here's the transparency, guys.

00:02:56.000 Look at that.

00:02:57.000 That is not that transparent.

00:03:00.000 This is the liability and indemnity provision, so this is pretty important to know.

00:03:06.000 I wonder what kind of indemnity provision Pfizer were granted.

00:03:12.000 Listen, I can tell you everything about that.

00:03:13.000 Were we given indemnity?

00:03:14.000 So if there were any consequences, we wouldn't be?

00:03:18.000 Not saying there are any consequences.

00:03:19.000 There are no consequences.

00:03:20.000 Only good ones.

00:03:21.000 Good consequences.

00:03:22.000 I don't think you can even say good ones.

00:03:24.000 There are no consequences.

00:03:26.000 Nothing.

00:03:26.000 It was neutral.

00:03:27.000 Can you say that?

00:03:28.000 Not sure.

00:03:29.000 It's difficult to know with a WHO.

00:03:32.000 Can you just tell me all of the things you did around identity?

00:03:35.000 Sure.

00:03:36.000 I've got nothing to hide.

00:03:36.000 Here you go.

00:03:37.000 There you go.

00:03:38.000 It's just that.

00:03:39.000 That's the answer to it.

00:03:41.000 Also, we'll be talking to you a little bit more about, well, You know, Victoria Nuland, if you don't know her, you should, because she's been working for successive American administrations.

00:03:51.000 She was around when it was Bush, W and Cheney in the White House.

00:03:57.000 She says that the US supports Ukrainian attacks on Crimea.

00:04:02.000 Now, that for us presents a little bit of a problem.

00:04:05.000 It's what I call the circle of death.

00:04:07.000 Let me talk you through the circle of death right now.

00:04:10.000 Joe Biden, you all remember him saying the idea we're going to send in offensive equipment to Ukraine.

00:04:14.000 That's called World War Three.

00:04:16.000 Now, Putin, as you know, said Russia could resort to nuclear weapons if Ukraine tries to retake Crimea.

00:04:23.000 Zelensky says we have always kept the goal in mind to seize Donbass and liberate Crimea.

00:04:28.000 Now, Victoria Nuland says we are supporting Ukraine hitting Russia's military in Crimea.

00:04:34.000 That is what I call the circle, the circle of death.

00:04:36.000 (gunshot)

00:04:39.000 ♪ Circle ♪ ♪ Circle ♪

00:04:45.000 Death.

00:04:46.000 But instead of like little Simba getting held up, it's just I think us holding up our little baby

00:04:51.000 what's all ashes now.

00:04:52.000 I don't know what it would be like.

00:04:54.000 Maybe one of those little dogs with, you know, the robot dogs.

00:04:57.000 Hold up a robot dog.

00:04:59.000 Get back in your house!

00:05:02.000 I like that you basically collaborated with Elton John there.

00:05:06.000 Not for the first time, my friend, in ways that I'm not prepared to share with you.

00:05:10.000 Jen Stoltenberg has admitted that the war between Ukraine and Russia began in 2014.

00:05:18.000 Where's he from?

00:05:21.000 Jen Stoltenberg?

00:05:23.000 Sweden?

00:05:24.000 Infowars or something like that.

00:05:24.000 Finland?

00:05:27.000 Yeah, no, he must be one of Alex Jones's mates over there at Infowars.

00:05:31.000 I think, oh no, it's NATO.

00:05:34.000 He's from NATO.

00:05:36.000 So remember when we're told like, oh, don't be, you're a conspiracy theorist, you're unpatriotic, you don't care about Ukrainian people losing their energy, losing their lives, being used as pawns in a globalist scheme.

00:05:47.000 We do bloody well care.

00:05:48.000 Well, this conspiracy theorist over at NATO admits that the war did begin in 2014.

00:05:53.000 Have a look at this.

00:05:55.000 The war didn't start in February last year.

00:05:58.000 The war started in 2014.

00:05:59.000 And since 2014, NATO Allies have provided support to Ukraine.

00:06:04.000 It's just very interesting to hear that, because that's what we've been talking about.

00:06:08.000 I just had a conversation with Chris Hedges.

00:06:10.000 He's going to be on the show tomorrow, where he talks about how the American military-industrial complex requires an economy of ongoing war.

00:06:17.000 We've seen it in Afghanistan.

00:06:18.000 Previously, we've seen it in Vietnam and Korea.

00:06:20.000 Of course, we saw it in Iraq. 0.91

00:06:22.000 And he was telling me, mate, that ultimately what we are witnessing is a kind of The decline of empire and a frantic attempt to retain a degree of control by doing stuff that I said to Chris Hedges seems counterintuitive like engaging some of the most powerful superpowers in the world in potentially military nuclear conflicts.

00:06:45.000 Yeah, unless they're just all so much more clever than we are.

00:06:47.000 I wonder that, like, sometimes when I'm watching football, I think, take him off, sit deeper, why are you not using the whip?

00:06:53.000 And I think, I don't know anything about this, so probably they know more.

00:06:56.000 And of course, when it comes to geopolitics, you sometimes wonder, don't you, if the things that you intuit, like Accepting that Russia has been a country for ages and ages and you can't just get rid of it. 0.90

00:07:07.000 You can't just make Russia disappear.

00:07:09.000 It's an actual country.

00:07:11.000 Intuitively, that feels true.

00:07:13.000 Don't agitate China.

00:07:14.000 Don't continually campaign for a unipolar world.

00:07:18.000 Accept that there are other nations, other incentives.

00:07:20.000 Don't try to create endless division.

00:07:22.000 Don't put profit ahead of human life.

00:07:23.000 I mean, all of these things seem like plain old common sense to me, but we've got much more informed guests than me coming on the show.

00:07:30.000 And stay with us for that.

00:07:32.000 And remember, if you're watching this on YouTube, in a minute, we'll be clicking over exclusively to Rumble, where we can tell you some startling facts about deaths during COVID.

00:07:42.000 And, you know, it's basically what you think it is, but it never hurts to hear that stuff confirmed, does it?

00:07:47.000 Certainly not.

00:07:47.000 No.

00:07:48.000 How long are we away from doing that?

00:07:49.000 We're going to be doing it in a moment.

00:07:49.000 OK.

00:07:51.000 Before that, let's have a look at Donald Trump talking about the conditions in Ukraine and how we could handle things differently.

00:07:58.000 Donald Trump, of course, predictably, thinks that he could solve this conflict in a couple of hours.

00:08:03.000 And sometimes when I see how confident he is, I wonder if he could.

00:08:06.000 Let's have a look.

00:08:07.000 And that's what they're doing now.

00:08:08.000 They're knocking out all the power plants and people are freezing to death.

00:08:12.000 That's surely not a good thing to freeze to death, is it?

00:08:16.000 And it's a very bad thing.

00:08:17.000 Like, people are dying.

00:08:19.000 The country is being obliterated.

00:08:21.000 Obliterated, you say?

00:08:22.000 Obliterated.

00:08:24.000 There he goes, old Donald Trump.

00:08:26.000 He has a certain... He didn't do that last bit, did he?

00:08:28.000 What, that little dinging noise?

00:08:29.000 I don't think that was Trump.

00:08:30.000 I don't know if Donald Trump has somehow combined his consciousness and very being with some AI masterpiece.

00:08:38.000 Who knows?

00:08:38.000 AI Trump?

00:08:39.000 AI Trump.

00:08:41.000 Who could stop him?

00:08:42.000 Only perhaps Ron DeSanctimonious.

00:08:45.000 Meatball Ron.

00:08:45.000 A lot of different nicknames.

00:08:47.000 I like it when he said, I don't spend any time thinking about nicknames.

00:08:51.000 I'm busy.

00:08:51.000 I've got a lot of stuff on my plate.

00:08:53.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:08:55.000 See it first on Rumble.

00:08:57.000 Rogue Nation said, Acid rain coming soon.

00:09:00.000 This is on our local chat that you can join.

00:09:02.000 Makawaikwe says, Erin Brockovich should have gotten there by now.

00:09:07.000 Joe's Dog says, Bet the bugs died first.

00:09:09.000 This could be a cascading event of ecological Death.

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00:09:18.000 Alarmed, I think, by the situation, even my dog Bear has risen to his feet.

00:09:21.000 And we are blessed now to be joined by Julia Rock, investigative journalist at The Leather, talking about this scenario.

00:09:31.000 Thanks for joining us, Julia.

00:09:32.000 We're so grateful to have you here.

00:09:34.000 Yeah, thanks so much for having me on.

00:09:36.000 The thing that we're most surprised by among the numerous interlocking cataclysms that we're currently describing is that Biden's Department of Justice are backing Norfolk Southern's bid to block lawsuits.

00:09:48.000 I feel that's a story that you were instrumental in disseminating.

00:09:52.000 Can you tell us a little bit more about that, please, Julia?

00:09:55.000 Yeah, so this is a story about a Supreme Court case, a U.S.

00:09:59.000 Supreme Court case that had oral arguments last fall.

00:10:03.000 And it basically has to do with sort of a series of technical issues about jurisdiction.

00:10:08.000 But the case involves a former Norfolk Southern employee who moved to sue the company under a federal law that protects railroad workers injured on the job.

00:10:18.000 And He sued in the state of Pennsylvania, which is not the state where he had been working.

00:10:26.000 And Norfolk Southern is trying to block the lawsuit.

00:10:30.000 Unusually, last fall, the Biden administration got involved in the case.

00:10:35.000 They filed a Friends of the Court brief.

00:10:37.000 They argued on the side of Norfolk Southern during oral arguments.

00:10:42.000 And it was sort of unusual that they took the side of Norfolk Southern in this case that could help corporations prevent civil lawsuits.

00:10:50.000 So this this all played out before the recent disaster in East Palestine, but but it sort of shows that the Biden administration was already taking the side of the railroad against people who had been poisoned by chemicals on the job.

00:11:05.000 What worries me, Julia, is how environmentalism is showcased as a defining issue and a divisive one at that in some political circles.

00:11:17.000 But when the opportunity comes to act on behalf of the environment in a situation where it's evidently needed, it feels to me that the response to this has been largely botched.

00:11:28.000 Not to mention the case that you just outlined, where there was an opportunity to support a railroad worker, and indeed the hypocrisy of Biden campaigning aggressively that he would be a pro-worker president, that he would be in support of unions, all promises that have come to naught.

00:11:42.000 And the fact that railroad workers have been unable to get the necessary pay rises or sick days that they were promised.

00:11:49.000 And the fact that all of that equipment weren't updated.

00:11:51.000 And I heard somewhere, Julia, is it true that they've got some like Civil War equipment on those trains?

00:11:56.000 I didn't even know they had trains then.

00:11:57.000 Confused about the whole chronology of this thing.

00:12:00.000 So what do you feel, broadly speaking, about the hypocrisy around environmentalism and opportunities to support working people that this story represents?

00:12:09.000 Yeah, so you're exactly right that it's interesting how the railroad industry More so than maybe other any other industry except perhaps the fossil fuel industry has really highlighted um sort of the Biden administration's position sort of between uh workers rights and and protecting the environment on the one hand and then uh sort of backing corporations uh the administration's corporate donors on the other and and there have been a lot of situations in which you know when pitted uh

00:12:38.000 Between the two, the Biden administration has chosen the side of the corporation.

00:12:42.000 So as you mentioned, you know, there was the administration urging Congress to step in and block a rail strike, which basically took away all the power that rail unions had to negotiate a better contract.

00:12:53.000 There's the Biden administration intervening on the side of Norfolk Southern in this Supreme Court case.

00:12:58.000 And now it has taken a really long time for the administration to sort of say anything critical of Norfolk Southern after this recent train derailment in Ohio.

00:13:07.000 Also, they've been cutting expenditure, I feel, for a long while.

00:13:10.000 Cutting back their workforce, not investing in the railroads, and it's difficult not to make a connection between that kind of cost cutting driven by the pursuit of profit and now these consequences for the people of Ohio.

00:13:23.000 We heard recently that not only is the Ohio River dangerously polluted, which I think provides 10% of America with its water supply, but that 80% of American rivers are currently polluted.

00:13:35.000 Is that true, mate?

00:13:36.000 I mean, we do a lot of research.

00:13:37.000 We're a big organisation.

00:13:38.000 Just feel free to comment on the things that you're confident commenting upon.

00:13:44.000 Like the pollution of the Ohio River and its significance as a supplier to American people.

00:13:51.000 That's important to us and we'll do some more research on the 80% of American rivers which have been polluted because we've done a story on it already this week.

00:13:59.000 Sometimes I'm just pulling these things out there, assuming that everyone shares my mind and thankfully people don't.

00:14:07.000 Well, I hadn't seen the 80 percent statistic, but it doesn't come as any surprise to me.

00:14:11.000 But you're right that the Ohio River provides a huge amount of drinking water to people.

00:14:15.000 It's a massive watershed.

00:14:16.000 And residents in East Palestine and in other places have been ordered to drink bottled water because the toxic chemical that was released during the derailment, vinyl chloride, sort of dissipates from the air somewhat quickly, but it lingers for a really long time in the water and in the soil.

00:14:34.000 And so there are a lot of concerns about contamination.

00:14:37.000 And there was just a story this morning, you know, about how the EPA has ordered Norfolk Southern to be in charge of the cleanup in the area.

00:14:46.000 And they are going to monitor the cleanup.

00:14:49.000 And that's sort of a massive step forward.

00:14:51.000 It's one of the most aggressive moves the administration has taken against Norfolk Southern since this derailment.

00:14:56.000 But there are a lot of concerns about contamination.

00:14:59.000 I don't think Norfolk Southern should be in charge of it.

00:15:01.000 I didn't like that bit where the solution was to blow it up and to send it up into the sky in black plumes.

00:15:07.000 That seems to be like what a child would do.

00:15:09.000 That's how I used to keep my bedroom tidy, throwing things out the window, setting them on fire.

00:15:13.000 It doesn't seem like an appropriate response to it.

00:15:17.000 Yeah, I mean, it's completely wild that, you know, if a train, as you had mentioned before, the railroad industry has slashed its workforce by nearly 30% in the past decade.

00:15:28.000 They've lobbied against safety regulations.

00:15:31.000 They're carrying hazardous materials on trains with antiquated technologies.

00:15:37.000 And then, of course, a derailment happens.

00:15:39.000 And what do they do?

00:15:41.000 They blow the stuff into the air, it leaks into the water, it leaks into the soil.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, it doesn't seem Julia, I feel like I read in your article that the complete list of chemicals on board that train hasn't yet been released and my assumption is that that's not because they're such lovely chemicals that we'll all get excited and start drinking Ohio water and sucking the soil over there.

00:16:03.000 It's presumably because they are dangerous contaminants.

00:16:07.000 Yeah, so initially, when the train first derailed, first responders didn't even know what hazardous chemicals were on board the train, because the train was not being regulated as a high hazard flammable train, despite, of course, the fact that it started on fire when it derailed and the tanks were later, the chemicals were released and burned off.

00:16:29.000 So there was not good information about what chemicals were on board.

00:16:33.000 Slowly, as federal agencies have begun their investigations, a more complete list of the chemicals has been published.

00:16:40.000 And I believe now all the chemicals that were on board sort of have been made public.

00:16:45.000 But initially, there was not a lot of information about what was on the train, which made it very hard, of course, for first responders to know how to conduct a safe response.

00:16:54.000 Thanks very much for clearing that up.

00:16:56.000 Joe, am I right saying that Joe Biden hasn't visited Ohio yet but is currently in Ukraine?

00:17:01.000 Do you think that that is a visit driven by humanitarian care or by the potential economic ties that this war might yield economic opportunities that it might grant and

00:17:14.000 the ongoing profits gleaned by the military-industrial complex as the aid given to

00:17:19.000 Ukraine takes the form of products made by Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, BAE Systems and Northrop

00:17:25.000 Grumman?

00:17:26.000 How do you feel about that?

00:17:28.000 You gave a great answer in your question, which I appreciate.

00:17:32.000 He hasn't been to East Palestine, which is pretty striking, you know, just given the amount of public attention it's gotten, the amount of sort of conspiracy floating around the incident, the amount of environmental contamination, sort of the fact that he has not been a great watchdog of the railroad industry, sort of to say the least.

00:17:32.000 But yeah, you're right.

00:17:49.000 So, you know, obviously there are geopolitical reasons as well as You know, the profits of the military-industrial complex for Biden to go to Ukraine.

00:17:59.000 But it's pretty striking that he didn't go to East Palestine.

00:18:02.000 The Lever is widely regarded as a sort of left-of-centre organisation.

00:18:08.000 We have David Sirota on our show and we really admire the work that you do there and that others working at the Lever do.

00:18:14.000 Do you feel that this is a time where alliances beyond the usual political consensus have to be formed given that centralised establishment

00:18:23.000 power seems indefatigable and is in a way seems incapable of responding to the

00:18:29.000 evident need for change, whether it's you know it's just some of the issues that this case and

00:18:34.000 story brings up, i.e. meaningful environmentalism, representation of the rights of workers,

00:18:41.000 end to corporate lobbying. What do you think about that aspect of this, Juliet? I mean absolutely.

00:18:46.000 You know, in the fall, the rail unions and rail workers got a lot of news coverage and attention for issues that have been going on for years, which was, again, sort of the slashing of the workforces, their really draconian attendance policies, their lack of paid sick leave, understaffing on trains.

00:19:04.000 And those workers, you know, had been warning about a derailment like this.

00:19:08.000 And I think there's sort of a way in which people really seeing the consequences, not just for workers, but also for themselves, the health and safety consequences, the environmental consequences of corporations sort of decimating their workforces, will hopefully give broader public support to some of the demands that the rail workers were making, which included Safety concerns.

00:19:31.000 And you know, at The Lever, we report critically on anybody who has the power to change things or should be held accountable when disasters like this happen.

00:19:41.000 We've gotten a lot of flack for reporting critically.

00:19:44.000 On the Biden administration, because people like to point out, you know, that Trump rolled back a lot of train safety regulations, which is completely true.

00:19:52.000 It's also true that Biden is the president now, and that he has sort of a vast administrative apparatus at his disposal to regulate industries like the railroads.

00:20:02.000 And so I think it's pretty unreasonable to sort of claim that there's nothing he can do.

00:20:07.000 Julia Rock, you're getting a lot of love on our chat over on Locals that you can join now by clicking the button.

00:20:12.000 Not you, Julie, you've got a lot of work to do at the leather. 0.75

00:20:15.000 Mac Wackwy says, Norfolk Southern is already running trains over the same tracks and double stacking cars to make up for losses.

00:20:23.000 Elsewhere on the chat, a lot of people seem to be obsessed with llamas and alpacas, which I don't think is helping the conversation move forward at all, unless I'm missing something.

00:20:32.000 Julia, thank you so much for joining us for this conversation.

00:20:36.000 You can follow Julia and her work at leathernews.com.

00:20:39.000 Julia, thanks for coming on the show.

00:20:41.000 It's lovely to talk to you and I hope we get to see you again soon.

00:20:44.000 This is great.

00:20:45.000 Thanks for having me.

00:20:46.000 Bye, Julia.

00:20:46.000 Take care.

00:20:46.000 Bye.

00:20:47.000 Thanks very much.

00:20:48.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:20:50.000 You will be astonished to learn that the NIH need a new leader.

00:20:55.000 I know what you're thinking.

00:20:56.000 Fauci, can't he stay forever?

00:20:58.000 It did such a great job of advising us during the pandemic in an unbiased way.

00:21:02.000 You've done a narrative shift, haven't you?

00:21:03.000 I do shift narratives!

00:21:04.000 Wow!

00:21:05.000 I shift narratives!

00:21:05.000 What do you want me to do?

00:21:06.000 Immediate shift, very nice.

00:21:08.000 I'll try shift narratives.

00:21:09.000 A 180.

00:21:10.000 What do you want me to do?

00:21:11.000 Talk about Julia and the Leather and the llamas and alpacas down on the chat?

00:21:15.000 I thought you might want to.

00:21:16.000 I'm actually interested in how they've gotten onto the subject to tell you the truth.

00:21:20.000 But I think it's going to have more impact on the lives of ordinary people if we work

00:21:24.000 out who's going to be the next person running the NIH.

00:21:27.000 I also think it's important that when we have Dan Cohen joining us from Redacted that we have an idea of what we're discussing.

00:21:34.000 Now maybe we can talk about alpacas and llamas and glory in the conversation with Julia Rock from The Leather and her revelations about a corrupt railway industry and a lack of real care for environmentalism and in Joe Biden a potentially corrupt president Visit in Ukraine because of economic interests rather than Ukrainian people's need for support and aid and ignoring the plight of the people of East Palestine.

00:21:55.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:21:55.000 But Gareth!

00:21:57.000 I'm under a lot of pressure.

00:21:58.000 I can tell.

00:21:58.000 Yeah, a lot of pressure.

00:21:59.000 I think that was a nice link.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, one thing you can say, we're literally talking about the kind of corruption and the ways in which Biden has done nothing to tackle the railroad industry.

00:22:07.000 I mean, came to power saying we're going to give workers all these Sick days didn't happen because of lobbyists, because the railroad industry is basically too powerful for him.

00:22:15.000 He's completely impotent, only in that regard.

00:22:17.000 I imagine in other regards as well.

00:22:20.000 Potentially so.

00:22:21.000 You'd think so, maybe, at his age.

00:22:22.000 I don't want to disparage Joe Biden's reproductive capacity particularly, but I imagine at the

00:22:28.000 age of, what is he now, 109, to maintain and to produce...

00:22:35.000 I thought he was a relationship with the pharmaceutical industry.

00:22:38.000 Primal Colin 2 says unvaccinated equals Nazi is next. 0.66

00:22:43.000 Oh Primal Colin 2.

00:22:45.000 So cynical.

00:22:46.000 Don't be so cynical.

00:22:47.000 The world's a beautiful place.

00:22:49.000 Go fly a kite.

00:22:50.000 Not if there's a lockdown in a 15 minute city.

00:22:53.000 Better a kite than a balloon anyway.

00:22:55.000 Don't fly a balloon, they scare people.

00:22:57.000 People don't like to see a balloon.

00:22:58.000 They've gone radically out of fashion.

00:23:00.000 Joining us now is Dan Cohen, a correspondent for Redacted, who is fascinated by the NIH's search for the new Fauci, a man called Dr. Peter Hotez, who we have just seen.

00:23:11.000 So thanks very much for joining us, mate.

00:23:13.000 Thanks for coming on.

00:23:15.000 Thanks a lot for having me, Russell.

00:23:16.000 Appreciate it.

00:23:17.000 That's a hell of a backdrop you've got there.

00:23:19.000 I'm coming to terms with it even now.

00:23:22.000 It's just a bunch of letters all thrown together.

00:23:25.000 I mean, technically it says Uncaptured Media, which is my outlet that I do in addition to Redacted, but it's kind of a work in progress, I guess.

00:23:33.000 No, I like it.

00:23:34.000 I think that you should be proud of it.

00:23:35.000 Now, tell us a little bit more about Peter Hotez.

00:23:37.000 What's going on with that dude?

00:23:39.000 We watched that bit of propaganda that he made for the WHO a while ago, and I frankly took a bit of a dislike to him.

00:23:44.000 I imagine you're coming on here to tell us that he's the best thing since sliced bread, it's going to be a radical change from Fauci, and finally we've got the voice of the people within the NIH.

00:23:53.000 Fingers are crossed now, they're crossing!

00:23:56.000 Well, fortunately, we're on Rumble.

00:23:58.000 We're not on YouTube, so we don't have to say those kinds of things.

00:24:00.000 We can speak freely.

00:24:02.000 I mean, Peter Hotez, he really personifies the biosecurity regime that we've all been subjected to for the last three years in terms of completely unscientific reasoning for lockdowns, for vaccine mandates, for coercion that has destroyed so many lives.

00:24:22.000 And he is now being, he's rumored, it's sort of speculative, that he's going to be Dr. Fauci's replacement as head of the NIH, basically the most powerful doctor in the world.

00:24:34.000 And so I did a two-part investigative series for Redacted, basically looking at his history from the beginning of his career in the mid-1980s Up until essentially the present day.

00:24:48.000 And what I found is just truly shocking in terms of not only his willingness to lie and deceive the public, but his medical experiments that he has conducted on unsuspecting populations in Latin America, in Africa, in South Asia.

00:25:05.000 And he's just a dangerous character.

00:25:08.000 Dan, can I stop you?

00:25:10.000 Dan, can I stop you right there?

00:25:12.000 What about these medical experiments that he's conducted on people in Latin America?

00:25:15.000 I mean, that sounds like sci-fi, that sounds dystopian, that sounds like Mengle. 0.99

00:25:20.000 Now, what are these experiments that he carried out?

00:25:24.000 Well, so in the 1980s, he began treating what he called, he coined this term, neglected tropical diseases.

00:25:31.000 It's sort of like, you know, the responsibility to protect or something like that, that military doctrine.

00:25:37.000 He coined this term as a marketing thing.

00:25:39.000 Basically, for the Rockefeller Foundation, and he got money from the Gates Foundation, the Clinton Global Initiative, and spawned a neglected tropical disease industrial complex, where all of these maladies in countries that have been exploited by Europe and the United States Where there's no infrastructure and people are living in literal sewage and they get sick.

00:26:04.000 Well, he says instead of cleaning that up and building infrastructure, what we'll do is test drugs on people and none of them ever succeed.

00:26:12.000 And that's his whole thing.

00:26:14.000 And there's been all kinds of horrible, horrible results.

00:26:17.000 So now that's a $10 billion industry.

00:26:21.000 All of the big pharma companies, Pfizer is into it, the Gates Foundation, the US government through USAID has put $10 billion into it, and it's just enormous.

00:26:32.000 Samantha Power tweets about it, so that is basically the doing of Peter Hotez.

00:26:37.000 That seems like an extraordinary practice in itself.

00:26:39.000 Profits.

00:26:40.000 A lot of profits in that.

00:26:42.000 It's a profitable endeavour.

00:26:44.000 Forgotten tropical diseases, bring them up, bring them back, like flared trousers.

00:26:49.000 Flare ups though.

00:26:50.000 Oh no, that's a terrible story.

00:26:53.000 Also Dan, there seems to be a trend to promote the idea, like sort of new narratives that Offer opportunities for censorship and smearing.

00:27:03.000 Of course, unvaccinated people took a lot of hits during the pandemic.

00:27:08.000 And increasingly, it seems that there was very little legitimacy to that kind of judgment, whether it's the figures emerging around death, the new heart attack information, the adverse events stuff, the efficacy of vaccines.

00:27:22.000 I mean, the list just goes on and on.

00:27:25.000 And yet we're entering an era where We're told that misinformation is worse than terrorism.

00:27:29.000 In fact, that's one of Peter Hotez's... What do you want to say?

00:27:34.000 Catchphrases?

00:27:34.000 Catchphrases.

00:27:35.000 Maxim's... Yeah, let's stick with catchphrases.

00:27:38.000 So, what do you reckon about that, Dan?

00:27:41.000 Well, Peter Hotez wants censorship.

00:27:44.000 He wants to criminalize anyone who sort of dissents from the biomedical regime that he subscribes to and that he's a mouthpiece for.

00:27:53.000 So he has called for, in the United States, the Department of Homeland Security, the State Department, the Pentagon, all of the departments of government to come together, but not only government departments in the United States, but also across the world, the United Nations, NATO,

00:28:10.000 all of them to come together to censor anyone who has questions about this.

00:28:16.000 So if you're a parent who says, well, maybe I wanna get some more information

00:28:21.000 about this injection that they wanna put in my four-year-old's arm,

00:28:24.000 you are now considered someone who should be censored, You're even considered a terrorist.

00:28:30.000 And so he says, he admits that he works with the U.S.

00:28:34.000 government in order to carry out this censorship regime.

00:28:40.000 We've seen the incredible amounts of censorship all over social media.

00:28:44.000 That's why we're talking about this on Rumble and not on YouTube.

00:28:47.000 I suppose the ability to disseminate and share information and the ability to connect that these new technologies have granted us presents a major problem and a necessary dynamic shift for centralized authority.

00:29:02.000 They need to Control this ability to present cohesive counter narratives.

00:29:06.000 One of the things that's been astonishing for us is that throughout the pandemic we've been given information mostly by our audience, by people watching this right now.

00:29:15.000 They've been very diligent in sending us stories, collating and curating various facts as the narrative evolved, watching out for experts that were willing to speak out, people that were actually pro-vaccine but wanted to discuss the particularities of mRNA vaccines and the nature of vaccinating

00:29:34.000 huge populations without what they described as due diligence. And I feel that we are

00:29:41.000 seeing now that even a short period of time after it was impossible to talk about something, let's just

00:29:46.000 take one example, like natural immunity.

00:29:49.000 The mainstream media are necessarily discussing it because they know that there is a challenge to be met, that people are aware.

00:29:55.000 And I think it's interesting that we're already talking about Peter Hotez.

00:30:00.000 It means that he's Unlikely to have a halcyon period where he's regarded as a credible doctor or to be lionised as an irreproachable medical professional because all of this stuff will be available for a lot of people immediately.

00:30:17.000 I think we're at the point, aren't we, Dan, where it's not even about condemning individuals, but looking at such entrenched and systemic corruption that without meaningful change to those systems, we're not going to get meaningful change in our lives.

00:30:27.000 And when you talk about organisations like NATO, the WHO, WEF, World Bank, all of these unelected, extremely influential bodies that either offer loans in exchange for regime change or have the ability to pass laws, ...are causing a great deal of fear.

00:30:44.000 And what you really need in order to ensure that their evident agenda isn't interrupted is the ability to cause division at the domestic level.

00:30:52.000 Confusion.

00:30:54.000 You need to invent terms like misinformation and disinformation.

00:30:57.000 Dan, has your research thrown up similar findings?

00:31:01.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:02.000 I mean, you know, I don't even mean to fixate on Peter Hotez.

00:31:05.000 It's just that he is the figure that's been promoted and pushed forward.

00:31:09.000 He's been on CNN and MSNBC almost daily for the last three years, pushing the mainstream,

00:31:17.000 the establishment's COVID agenda. Obviously, he is a mouthpiece for a much larger power.

00:31:25.000 As the narrative has fallen apart, they've become more desperate. That's why they want to censor

00:31:32.000 anybody who dissents from the regime. The narrative has really fallen apart.

00:31:42.000 It's been absurd from the beginning, but for those of us who didn't question from the start, it's become totally obvious that we've been lied to.

00:31:49.000 I mean, if you look at just Peter Hotez's statements, without any kind of analysis or color, You can just see that he lied again and again and again.

00:31:59.000 First he said that the emergency use authorization was dangerous for the mRNA shots, and then he said it's perfectly fine, and then he said two shots are enough, and then three shots, four shots, five shots.

00:32:10.000 So he completely changed what he was saying depending on the kind of political situation.

00:32:16.000 What What Dr. Pierre Khoury told me is that he's not a medical figure, he is a political figure completely, and that's exactly what we have been subjected to.

00:32:28.000 It's not medical, it's obviously, it's completely bogus.

00:32:32.000 It is purely political.

00:32:33.000 That's a fascinating observation that science and medicine have become subsets of corporatist ideals.

00:32:40.000 We saw in the pandemic how politicised this conversation became to the point where truth was obfuscated to the point of invisibility.

00:32:49.000 What do you think, Gareth?

00:32:51.000 Yeah, so interesting, Dan.

00:32:52.000 I mean, I just wondered, like, in terms of Peter Hotez and his involvement in some of the earlier decisions in the pandemic.

00:32:58.000 So obviously we're hearing a lot about How ineffective and potentially damaging, actually, lockdowns were for one.

00:33:05.000 And I wondered, in light of some of the information that we're discovering now, what was his involvement or what was the kind of narrative that he was involved with at the time around lockdowns and how kind of stringent was he on that?

00:33:18.000 Well, he pushed lockdowns extremely hard.

00:33:22.000 Basically, part of that was, of course, to implode the economy for the benefit of the ultra-wealthy.

00:33:29.000 We saw that Silicon Valley had the greatest period of growth.

00:33:33.000 It was the largest upward transfer of wealth in human history.

00:33:37.000 But it was also a way to scare people and to sort of terrorize them into wanting the fix

00:33:45.000 to get out of this lockdown regime.

00:33:48.000 And so it was all about fear mongering.

00:33:50.000 And so Peter Hotez was on TV saying that, if you're anywhere near someone who might have COVID,

00:33:59.000 who is outside, then you might get infected.

00:34:02.000 I mean, we all experience when you walk by someone, everyone puts the mask on immediately

00:34:07.000 And there's just this general fear of your neighbors and it really turns people against each other.

00:34:12.000 And I think that was the point, to prevent people from talking to each other, to prevent any kind of exchange of ideas, God forbid, political organization.

00:34:22.000 And it was all, you know, just watch MSNBC and Rachel Maddow and Peter Hotez.

00:34:28.000 And, you know, that was the idea behind, I think, a lot of what happened with COVID.

00:34:35.000 Dan, is it true that Peter Hotez wrote an article conflating hesitancy around vaccine with racism and in particular anti-Semitism?

00:34:49.000 Is that true?

00:34:49.000 Because we did a story recently about how the word freedom is currently being branded a far-right term and here on this channel We are about absolute inclusivity, absolute diversity, absolute democracy, the ability to express yourself as an individual, whether you have a traditional orthodox background or a progressive background and ideology.

00:35:07.000 We believe in individual and collective freedom and decentralization where possible.

00:35:13.000 These attempts to conflate various ideas seems like an interesting new maneuver.

00:35:17.000 So I wonder what you thought about Hotez's claims and how assertive they were.

00:35:23.000 Yeah, well, I completely share that ideology, that perspective of inclusivity and freedom.

00:35:30.000 And Peter Hotez wants to use, you know, in this case, he used Judaism as a human shield for the COVID agenda. 0.73

00:35:38.000 He has teamed up with the Anti-Defamation League, which is an Israel lobby outfit, in order to conflate criticism of ...of the COVID measures with anti-Semitism.

00:35:52.000 So anybody who has questions about these mRNA experimental injections is an anti-Semite, is what he said.

00:36:00.000 And so he's done appearances with the Anti-Defamation League, which actually awarded Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla its Courage Award.

00:36:11.000 And he actually also authored a recent paper Uh, saying that, um, he's a victim of antisemitism and he put out four emails in this paper that he has received.

00:36:22.000 Three of them don't say anything about being Jewish.

00:36:26.000 You know, I mean, I've had some antisemitic, I'm Jewish.

00:36:28.000 I've had some antisemitic comments in my life.

00:36:30.000 That's about the most mild possible.

00:36:32.000 And so that's his entire evidence for this whole kind of phenomenon of anti-vaxxers, antisemitism.

00:36:39.000 And like I said, it's just using the Israel lobby's approach, where the Israel lobby always says, anybody who criticizes Israel's treatment of Palestinians or supports Palestinian rights is an anti-Semite.

00:36:50.000 And so Pfizer and the Anti-Defamation League thought, oh, well, we'll just apply that to the same kind of model to the COVID agenda.

00:36:59.000 And anyone who disagrees is an anti-Semite.

00:37:02.000 That's a great answer, Dan.

00:37:03.000 My hope is that spaces like this grant us an opportunity to come together and find new alliances and unions to move beyond individual hatred, bigotry and prejudice to fight the very necessary war against centralized power and global corporatism that doesn't really care about ideology and religion, just power, dominion and profit.

00:37:23.000 Dan, thank you so much for your excellent contributions to our conversation and for your brilliant work in describing the nature of Peter Hotez and the kind of threat that this

00:37:32.000 globalism and propagandist model presents to normal people across the world everywhere. I

00:37:37.000 really appreciate you taking your time and I will reiterate I love your backdrop. Thanks

00:37:42.000 very much for having me.

00:37:44.000 I look forward to doing it again, Russell.

00:37:46.000 Thank you.

00:37:46.000 Definitely have you back, Dan.

00:37:47.000 You're fantastic.

00:37:48.000 Dan Cohen's a correspondent on Redacted, and he just told you about his own deal there, Uncaptured.

00:37:53.000 That's available on Substack, and it looks like he has some video content as well.

00:37:57.000 Shall we revel in it for a while, Gal?

00:37:59.000 You don't want me plowing forwards.

00:38:01.000 You like to spend a little bit of time.

00:38:02.000 This is like the post-coital chat.

00:38:03.000 Bit of pillow talk you like now, do you, mate?

00:38:05.000 Where's your cigarette?

00:38:07.000 All right, darling, was that okay for you?

00:38:10.000 Well, impressed?

00:38:12.000 Are you impressed with how I've done the interview?

00:38:14.000 Very good.

00:38:15.000 Never seen moves like that, have you?

00:38:16.000 Absolutely.

00:38:16.000 Never been on the end of that sort of interviewing?

00:38:18.000 No chance.

00:38:19.000 Covered a lot of ground.

00:38:20.000 That was lovely.

00:38:21.000 Nice, wasn't it?

00:38:21.000 I like it.

00:38:22.000 Well, you know, nice is probably the wrong word.

00:38:23.000 Absolutely terrifying.

00:38:24.000 Terrifying.

00:38:25.000 Terrifying and nice.

00:38:26.000 A little while ago we were talking about Project Veritas because I think we all enjoyed that sting operation on a Pfizer employee.

00:38:34.000 A honey trap method where after three or four dates they sprung it on this dude that, you know, that they'd been getting him to say stuff about Pfizer and they talked about that.

00:38:42.000 What would they say?

00:38:43.000 Something that sounds a bit like... Directed evolution.

00:38:46.000 Directed evolution.

00:38:47.000 That's the kind of thing.

00:38:47.000 But that sounds to me like God.

00:38:50.000 That's my religious beliefs described right there.

00:38:54.000 But we learned a lot more about James O'Keefe subsequently because it was kind of a smear campaign against him and he did some stuff that sounded pretty off-key like, I don't know, he ate a pregnant lady's sandwich, he took his whole team to see Oklahoma and maybe there was some legit serious stuff but when we spoke about it on this show we were saying is what he has done as important as what Pfizer and the Generally speaking, what the pandemic response has been, the profits that have been gleaned, the suffering that has been inflicted.

00:39:20.000 The redacted emails.

00:39:21.000 The redacted emails, man.

00:39:23.000 Like, you know, ideologically, I'm sure there's a lot of clear blue water between us and Project Veritas.

00:39:27.000 I understand they're kind of libertarian and it looks like they've got some funding from some traditional right-wing organizations, stuff that involves the Koch brothers.

00:39:34.000 All that kind of gear.

00:39:35.000 But I believe, as I keep saying, this is a time of alliance and looking at new ways to come together, not ways to be divided.

00:39:41.000 We must find new unity.

00:39:43.000 We must be willing to listen to people we disagree with.

00:39:45.000 That's certainly our approach.

00:39:47.000 You should see some of the shows I'm going on when I'm in America.

00:39:49.000 Also, he was great in Oklahoma, wasn't he?

00:39:51.000 Poor people forget, when discussing James O'Keefe, that he did the best bloody lead role in Oklahoma that I've seen for a very long time.

00:39:58.000 And his resignation speech, very rewardingly and touchingly, does reference his appearance in Oklahoma.

00:40:06.000 Would you like to have a little look at some of that, Gareth?

00:40:08.000 Would you guys like to have a look?

00:40:09.000 Join us.

00:40:10.000 Remember, we're on Locals right now.

00:40:12.000 We're reading, Oklahoma, that's character zero.

00:40:14.000 He wrote the sandwich into it.

00:40:16.000 Nice.

00:40:16.000 Very funny, you lot.

00:40:17.000 OK, let's have a look.

00:40:18.000 He looks great as a cowboy, says PrideFault.

00:40:21.000 And SensitiveHeart25 giving us a lot of love.

00:40:23.000 Seems to like you more than me, Gareth.

00:40:24.000 I'm not sure if I like the way that dynamic's developing.

00:40:28.000 Let's have a look at James O'Keefe's resignation speech.

00:40:32.000 There was also some truly bizarre grievances, including an allegation that I stole a pregnant woman's sandwich in federal court.

00:40:41.000 These included, and you can't make this- In court?

00:40:43.000 It's funny, because that will have to get read in court.

00:40:46.000 He stole a pregnant lady's sandwich.

00:40:48.000 He picked up a dog by its back legs and pushed it around like a vacuum cleaner.

00:40:51.000 That was in fourth grade!

00:40:53.000 It's all on the list.

00:40:54.000 That's a Simpsons joke for you guys there.

00:40:57.000 That Project Veritas paid for James O'Keefe's down payment of his wedding.

00:41:03.000 I got a chuckle out of this.

00:41:05.000 I'm not married.

00:41:06.000 That's weird.

00:41:09.000 Yeah.

00:41:10.000 So they've sort of come for him.

00:41:11.000 I guess the reason we were interested in this story, because we thought, is it because he's exposed Pfizer to some embarrassment?

00:41:18.000 Sure.

00:41:19.000 Like someone's gone.

00:41:20.000 We did find, in one of our episodes, we found a connection, didn't we?

00:41:23.000 Between Pfizer and the Koch brothers.

00:41:25.000 That some of the funding, there was some organisation that funds Project Veritas that Pfizer donate money to.

00:41:30.000 You should watch all of our episodes because we talk about stuff like this.

00:41:32.000 After you've watched this episode, stay on Rumble, watch some more of the stuff.

00:41:35.000 There was a financial link there that could be made but it does seem oddly coincidental that this is happening after that massive sting operation that the mainstream media wouldn't touch either.

00:41:44.000 Why didn't the mainstream media report on that?

00:41:47.000 I don't know man.

00:41:47.000 In a way I suppose it's good because it means we get an opportunity to create this movement where we initially start by doing news reporting but ultimately move into political Also, I think he probably didn't, if it's true, and it's alleged that he did steal that sandwich, that didn't happen like the other day, did it?

00:42:02.000 It's not like he did that sting, and he was like, brilliant, I'm so happy with that sting, and now for your sandwich!

00:42:08.000 Or on the way in, I'll take that!

00:42:10.000 Now here, my man, what's this you're saying about Pfizer profiteering?

00:42:14.000 Om nom, this is delicious!

00:42:15.000 Stop crying over there!

00:42:17.000 It's my hormones! 0.68

00:42:18.000 It's my sandwich!

00:42:21.000 I've never been married.

00:42:23.000 I do hope to get married one day.

00:42:24.000 In fact, I got married to you in Oklahoma.

00:42:27.000 But that was pretend.

00:42:28.000 Everyone enjoyed it.

00:42:29.000 We rented a charter bus.

00:42:30.000 We all went down.

00:42:31.000 Everyone enjoyed that musical.

00:42:32.000 Or at least I thought.

00:42:33.000 It's like he's upset at the end.

00:42:37.000 I also like that he's obviously got some of the cast of Oklahoma here at his resignation speech.

00:42:42.000 They're still there.

00:42:43.000 I wonder if they wanted him to stay and maybe have a go at Annie Get Your Gun or Rent or another Grease.

00:42:51.000 I feel kind of bad for the guy.

00:42:53.000 I don't know, man.

00:42:54.000 I didn't hear the full story.

00:42:55.000 I didn't have time to hear the full story.

00:42:57.000 You may not know this, but by God, it's Shrove Tuesday, Pancake Day. 0.97

00:43:01.000 Mardi Gras on the streets of Rio de Janeiro.

00:43:04.000 Here in Britain, we eat little thin fatty snacks.

00:43:07.000 Do you want to see two of the world's most powerful people chowing down on a fish pancake?

00:43:12.000 Of course you do!

00:43:13.000 That's why you come here for.

00:43:15.000 We've told you about Ohio.

00:43:16.000 We've told you about Ukraine.

00:43:18.000 We've bought you fantastic guests that will expose the infrastructure behind real power.

00:43:22.000 We've brought you together from across the political spectrum and told you explicitly that without individual spiritual awakening we cannot change the world.

00:43:29.000 The one thing we've not yet done It showed you Putin and Xi Ping making and then eating pancakes together in a sort of an item that I think goes on too long for either of their comfort and ends up with them sort of pushing fish eggs in a pancake.

00:43:43.000 Yeah, I also wonder if Putin's a bit annoyed that he's not very good at it.

00:43:46.000 He's like, I think he's burned it.

00:43:49.000 Do you reckon?

00:43:51.000 Some of his pancake has spilled into another territory there.

00:43:54.000 Yes, it has.

00:43:55.000 I'd say that the centre bit, that's old Soviet Union Russia, but then it's definitely straight into Ukraine.

00:44:00.000 Well, neither of them are doing the old flip technique. 0.92

00:44:02.000 Like, hup liar!

00:44:03.000 Yeah.

00:44:04.000 That's hard though, have you done that?

00:44:05.000 I've done that, yeah.

00:44:06.000 Yeah, my kids are obsessed with pancakes.

00:44:08.000 They bung themselves up on them.

00:44:11.000 They get up early, they go downstairs, they make them on their own.

00:44:13.000 I worry about it.

00:44:14.000 Yeah, you should.

00:44:15.000 It's not my responsibility.

00:44:17.000 What I feel is like, because they're not like, you know, Western leaders, I'm used to their propagandist nonsense where they're trying to pretend to be normal.

00:44:23.000 Look, you're just like us.

00:44:24.000 And I know they are normal and just like us. 0.89

00:44:26.000 And that's why them having such absurd amounts of power and privilege is so ludicrous.

00:44:30.000 But seeing them people, they're frightening people. 0.76

00:44:33.000 Have people killed?

00:44:34.000 Legit.

00:44:35.000 I mean, I know Donald Trump would say, well, you think we don't?

00:44:37.000 Who's naive now?

00:44:37.000 You know, I mean, of course.

00:44:38.000 You think we're so innocent?

00:44:39.000 Yeah, I don't think we're innocent.

00:44:42.000 But like, it's just odd to see him doing something so sort of mundane and time consuming.

00:44:47.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:48.000 Who sold this to them as a thing to do?

00:44:50.000 It's still going on.

00:44:51.000 It goes on for a long time.

00:44:56.000 Why is Putin commentating over there?

00:44:59.000 Like, he's looking at the other guy's one. 0.83

00:45:05.000 There's a bloody great hole in that pancake.

00:45:07.000 I know. 0.97

00:45:08.000 He's as bad as everyone says he is.

00:45:09.000 How nervous would you be if you were those chefs next to him?

00:45:12.000 I don't know if I'd intervene.

00:45:13.000 No.

00:45:13.000 Or not.

00:45:14.000 I'd just say, oh, that's brilliant, that.

00:45:16.000 I think, like, if Joe Biden was doing it, like, if Zelensky was there, Joe Biden would be behind the scenes making the pancake.

00:45:21.000 Like a ghost.

00:45:23.000 Oh, my love, my darling!

00:45:26.000 It has become eroticised.

00:45:27.000 I mean, did you see that cuddle with Zelensky's floundering panhandle scrambling about? 0.93

00:45:33.000 I think all other leaders are eroticising Zelensky because of his jumpers.

00:45:36.000 Now, I know that Ukrainian people need a good leader.

00:45:39.000 Ukrainian people need representation.

00:45:40.000 And I love that comedian has risen to the top in the way that Zelensky has.

00:45:43.000 And I think this war should be stopped.

00:45:45.000 But what I don't agree with is the likes of Rishi Sunak, our Prime Minister, and Justin Trudeau.

00:45:50.000 Most beautiful, haired, libertarian, liberalist leader in the world are all pouring over him and crushing on him.

00:45:57.000 They really are.

00:46:00.000 They love him, don't they?

00:46:01.000 They do love him.

00:46:03.000 They've got a little club out of it, those two.

00:46:05.000 Yeah, Rishi Senak shouldn't be in charge of a country.

00:46:08.000 You can see the way, like, I say that, like, Putin, like, this is not, like, ideological, because I disagree with the level of tyranny, power and control that these men have, right?

00:46:18.000 I believe in decentralisation.

00:46:19.000 But at least they're old school... Decentralisation wouldn't go down too well with these guys.

00:46:23.000 Hey, guys, we just want to, like, why don't you let every province, like, be a sort of an independent anarcho-syndicalist group and they democratically...

00:46:33.000 Night, Sonny Jim!

00:46:35.000 Game over.

00:46:35.000 Pretty quick smile.

00:46:37.000 I just eat their fish pancakes while I flounder on the floor.

00:46:41.000 Hey, listen, we've got to wrap this up.

00:46:42.000 We can't spend all day talking about Xi Pin and Putin making pancakes.

00:46:46.000 Doesn't seem right, does it?

00:46:47.000 Doesn't.

00:46:47.000 Seems like an odd thing.

00:46:48.000 There's a war on.

00:46:49.000 Hey, we've got a great show for you tomorrow.

00:46:51.000 Darren Allen, author of 33 Myths About The System, an anarchist, a natural anarchist who's got ideas.

00:46:56.000 He's coming on to talk to us about artificial world conditions and how we've been ultimately Conditioned into a state of numb conformity and how to reawaken ourselves.

00:47:06.000 All sorts of unquestioned myths that define our perspective on reality.

00:47:09.000 He's a fantastic writer.

00:47:11.000 I think you're going to really enjoy him.

00:47:12.000 On Thursday, I'm talking to Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Chris Hedges.

00:47:16.000 On Friday, we've got Jeremy Corbell coming on talking about UFOs, spy balloons, the deep state.

00:47:20.000 If you are a member of Locals, you can watch some of these conversations happening Live because some of those things are recorded early in the day and you can join us in our chat and ask us questions wherever you are in the US of states right now you've got to consider is it worth making the trip to LA to see me live March the 2nd at the Vermont because I'm going on Bill Maher over there then on March the 6th I'm going to the Bilheimer Capitol Theatre because I'm appearing on Tucker Carlson

00:47:44.000 And between those things, I'll be on Joe Rogan again.

00:47:47.000 But if you want to see me live, you can join me at either of those places.

00:47:50.000 For tickets, go to RussellBrand.com.

00:47:52.000 Join us on local so you can be with the chat.

00:47:54.000 We do a weekly meditation where you can tell me whatever it is you're feeling will help you.

00:47:57.000 Heartbreak, grief, loneliness, dealing with corruption and oppression.

00:48:01.000 Pancakes.

00:48:02.000 Pancakes.

00:48:02.000 Pancakes!

00:48:03.000 You need a meditation about pancakes?

00:48:05.000 I'll whip one up for you and we'll flip it over together.

00:48:08.000 We will be, and also my new stand-up special, that's going to be available on Locals exclusively for at least a month or so.

00:48:15.000 Okay, join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, because that would be, I mean, that would be very tedious if we were moving forward fast, but for more of the different.

00:48:22.000 Until then, stay free.

00:48:23.000 Many switch it, switch on, switch off.

00:48:26.000 Many switch it, switch on, switch off.

00:48:32.000 Man, he switchin'.

00:48:33.000 Switch on, switch off.

00:48:35.000 Man, he switchin'.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 22, 2023

Julia Rock & Dan Cohen (Ohio & The New Fauci)

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