Jimmy Dore joins Russell Brand at Rumble HQ in Washington, D.C. to discuss his experience attending Brett Weinstein's "Rescue the Republic" event, and to discuss the need for a decentralized, unified response to globalism and totalitarianism. Russell and Dore discuss the importance of uniting behind a common cause, as well as the growing threat to freedom posed by globalism, totalitarianism, and the dark side of the dark night of the moon landing. Russell Brand is a comedian, actor, writer, and podcaster. He is the host of the podcast Stay Free With Russell Brand, and is a regular contributor to the New York Times, NPR, and other media outlets. His work has been featured on CNN, CBS Radio, and NPR Worldwide, and he is a frequent contributor to The Huffington Post and The Daily Wire. He is also the author of the book, "The Dark Side of America: A People's Guide to America's Most Dangerous Places: A Guide to the White House," which is available on Amazon Prime and Vimeo. and is available in Kindle, iBook, Paperback, Hardcover, and Audio Book format. It's also available on Audible, Podcoin, and Audible. You can find him on all of the social medias, if you search for him, Jimmy Dore, and listen to him on his podcast, "JimmyDore: The Man Who Couldn't Stop Me." on the podcast. on Podcoin. If you like what you like, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, and we'll get a shoutout on the episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand wherever else he's listening to you're listening to this podcast. Thanks for listening! in the comments below! Thank you for listening to Stay Free! and Good Morning America? and I'll be back with more episodes like this and more in the next episode on Monday, November 5th, 2020. in a future episode on Stay Free, coming soon! Timestamps: 5:00 - What do you think of the future? 6:30 - What are you going to do next? 7:15 - How do you see the future in 2020? 8:40 - What kind of country will be free? 9: What are we going to be free in the 21st century? 11:00 12:20 - What is the worst thing you're going to see in the world? 13:30 15:00 | What is your biggest enemy? 16:00 + 17:40
00:01:26.000I'm in Washington because I've been participating in Rescue the Republic, Brett Weinstein's event, at which many people, including Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy, appeared.
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00:01:47.000Before we get into today's brilliant interview with Jimmy Dore, and even for Jimmy Dore, he is immaculate today, bringing together a variety of themes.
00:01:57.000All, I suppose, coalescing around the idea of unity.
00:02:01.000Unity in particular, of course, between people that might oppose one another, whether that's culturally or politically, because this is a time where we have to have a decentralized but unified response to globalism and totalitarianism.
00:02:51.000I know that God has given us this great opportunity to recharge ourselves, to ask us what we want as a nation, as a community, as a family, and as individuals.
00:03:08.000We want to continue this for the next generation and for our grandchildren.
00:03:14.000And that decision that we make this November are going to help continue this freedom moving forward.
00:03:22.000And because freedom of speech is now frequently described as a stalking horse for hate and discrimination, the phrase appears less and less.
00:03:30.000Speech is mentioned in reputable media really only as a possible vector for the disease of misinformation or disinformation.
00:03:40.000And for most people, the only thing that will remain of this issue soon is a little flutter of nerves reminding them not to think about it.
00:03:50.000It's why it's important to understand the endgame of the censors is not controlling speech.
00:04:16.000But I doubt there are many here today who did not seriously consider whether they were putting their freedom, or perhaps even their lives, in danger.
00:04:24.000And as we planned the event, many people shared their concerns.
00:04:28.000I've lost count of the number of times I was warned not to do it by someone who then wished us luck.
00:04:33.000But the more I listened to people's trepidations, the simpler the calculus became.
00:04:39.000If millions of Americans are afraid to exercise their most fundamental right in their own capital, that implies the Capitol is held by a force that is hostile to the Republic and her people.
00:04:53.000What I saw there were people coming from all over the world, across the border, knowing exactly where to go.
00:05:02.000Not to evade Border Patrol, but to be picked up by Border Patrol.
00:05:07.000Waiting patiently to be loaded in the vans where Border Patrol have become nothing but Uber drivers for them.
00:05:15.000Where they are quickly processed through a system that often within 24 hours gets them with a free plane ticket to anywhere in the country.
00:05:28.000What I saw as I stood in a parking lot near a train station where many of these drop-offs occurred were human traffickers who were waiting, women who were being drugged unknowingly, and in their foggy state of mind being ushered into cars, never to be heard from again.
00:05:49.000During COVID, we saw the greatest attack On America's liberties and our constitutional right, and at any time in American history.
00:06:02.000We saw by February of 2020, they were already censoring doctors, scientists, individuals, anybody who questioned the government orthodoxy.
00:06:18.000The American press, guardians of the free speech of the First Amendment, of our democracy all took part in this unprecedented effort to silence dissent in our country.
00:06:37.000The press, which is supposed to function to speak truth to power, instead began silencing the powerless and acting as a bullhorn for government orthodoxies.
00:06:52.000And as soon as they figured out If they could censor us and that we were going to put up with it, they began an assault against all of our other Bill of Rights.
00:07:05.000Hamilton, Adams, and Madison said that we put freedom of expression in the First Amendment because all of the other rights are dependent on it.
00:07:16.000A government that has the capacity to silence its critics has license for any atrocity.
00:07:25.000We're here in support of your freedom, our freedom, and collective freedom.
00:07:30.000So with that, I will now ask you, Dr. Jordan Peterson, why did you, because now, this is a segue, I'm moving to an interview now, I'm aware I've spoken for a long while.
00:07:39.000Any of you that know Jordan Peterson, well, you've never seen Jordan Peterson not talk for that long, have you?
00:07:46.000Well, you know, it's not entirely obvious to me what the solution to this situation is, you know.
00:07:54.000I know you've got a microphone, and I've seen you defend yourself against English broadcasters extremely well.
00:08:06.000And make no mistake, it's under true assault.
00:08:09.000In my country, there's a bill that's in second reading, which has pushed it quite a ways along the legislative route, Bill C-63, which literally allows people to be reported to a provincial magistrate Under the possibility of one year's imprisonment in their own house with an ankle bracelet, with all their communication intercepted, in consequence of anyone's complaint, that they're afraid that a hate speech event might occur in the next year.
00:08:43.000You know, and I've read that bill, I've read that bill three times, because every time I read it, and then think about it, I can't believe that I could have possibly understood it properly.
00:08:55.000And yet here we are, and there is very similar things going on in the UK.
00:08:58.000There was a terrible bill that was recently defeated in Ireland, for example, which Would it put severe restrictions on free speech?
00:09:05.000And there are people in the UK who are being persecuted and seriously persecuted for expressing their opinions, offensive though they may be, publicly in a manner that is absolutely necessary if you're going to support free speech.
00:09:22.000Well, the free speech that offends no one requires no defense, and that's partly because it has no content.
00:09:28.000If I only ever say something that everyone agrees with and produces no emotional response whatsoever, there's no point in even speaking.
00:09:38.000Because you don't have to concentrate on what's obvious if you're going to speak, you have to concentrate on what's contentious and disruptive.
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00:10:15.000A person who may not see eye to eye with me when it comes to the subject of spirituality but is neatly aligned on a whole host of political issues, in particular the necessity for people to come together to oppose gargantuanism, to establish some principles of subsidiarity, to be able to find common ground with people that you might otherwise be opposed to, is the great comedian and cultural commentator Jimmy Dore.
00:10:38.000This is a fantastic conversation with Jimmy.
00:10:41.000We talk a lot about Bobby Kennedy coming together with the Trump campaign and what that indicates.
00:10:46.000And most of all, we talk about the necessity to end war and what the outpourings of perpetual war are domestically here in the United States.
00:11:02.000Great to be here, thanks for having me.
00:11:03.000We're here to participate in Rescue the Republic and at this point we've not done it.
00:11:10.000You've just heard from Rob Schneider that we should slow down when we're on the stage.
00:11:15.000How do you feel about being part of this, Jimmy?
00:11:17.000Because the way that the last six months has unfolded, if it had happened in the 80s or even the 90s, one would imagine the news events around the assassination attempts would have garnered more attention and lived longer in the cycle.
00:11:30.000Something as seemingly seismic as someone like Bobby Kennedy joining the campaign of a rival, fundamentally, I suppose, crossing the aisle during a campaign.
00:11:40.000It would be reported on significantly, but the only reporting you see on Bobby Kennedy are smears and attacks.
00:11:46.000The only reporting you really see on Trump is sort of endless amplification of his flaws and failings.
00:11:53.000I just wonder, as someone that, sort of like me, is really, at least culturally, was a figure of the left, how you're continuing to navigate this, or have you sort of flung off all concerns about that at this point?
00:12:06.000Well, I think the reason why it's not a bigger story is because nothing is a story unless the media decides it's a story, right?
00:12:12.000And then they decide how it's supposed to be a story, right?
00:12:16.000So they don't want Trump's assassinations to be a big or attempts to be a big story.
00:12:22.000They don't want it to be a big story that Bobby Kennedy's shifting over.
00:12:26.000What they want to be is a big story is his non-sex sex affair where he didn't have sex.
00:12:32.000It's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
00:12:34.000They want the fact that he's being investigated over a whale.
00:12:39.000They want that to be a story, or that he found a dead bear.
00:12:41.000They want these things to be the story.
00:12:44.000They don't want the actual story to be the story.
00:12:45.000So that's, and you know, that's the big problem with the media, right?
00:12:49.000You know, when I was younger, the news media used to be blue-collar people like me, people who came from working-class backgrounds.
00:12:56.000And now, since it's only six companies that run all the media in the United States, you have these journalists that come from Ivy League universities that are hand-picked by the billionaires to go do, and they're happy to do the propaganda because they know they're going to be class-loyal.
00:13:13.000We have class-loyal Ivy League pukes That are giving us our news and shaping the culture.
00:13:20.000And so that's why we're living in the world we're living in.
00:13:22.000That's why Kamala Harris, the story is, which they never talk about, is that she became the first presidential nominee without ever getting a vote.
00:13:31.000That's the whole, you know, and I say, they call her, I've been in comedy clubs and they call her a queen.
00:13:37.000And I guess by queen, they mean someone who was, you know, installed by the elite without any votes from the populace.
00:13:43.000Because that's what that's really happening.
00:13:45.000So that's the big story, but they'll never talk about that.
00:13:48.000They let her not do... She's not doing interviews.
00:15:50.000Do you think the framing of Bobby Kennedy in particular as like a kook and a madman and attacks on him is because in effect the real story is that there is a coalescing around Trump That can now legitimately be called an anti-establishment movement.
00:16:12.000Do you think that when you mention Kamala Harris appearing on Oprah and it seeming more like a rally, that we're now, you know, of course it's common to talk of the silos in the information space, but when I think like that, you know, you and I have figures that are typically associated with the left, are doing events and participating in sort of like online forums or round tables or symposiums or things that amount to campaigning along with people like Tulsi Gabbard or Vivek Ramaswamy or Tucker or you know they're starting to look like I wonder how
00:16:45.000Now they can continue to maintain the idea that there is something anti-establishment or pro-civil rights or almost the inheritors of the mantles of the great civil rights activists of the 60s like Martin Luther King or Malcolm X. Because when I see something like that Oprah spectacle, I like the movies of Ben Stiller and the movies of Meryl Streep and stuff.
00:17:11.000It to me seems like now they're these are entirely separate worlds where there are sort of pundits that have come out of entertainment say like you or me but coupled with people that come from the business space or the military or law you know to be speaking about Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi All ultimately saying, in order to disrupt this project of globalism and totalitarianism, even if Make America First and MAGA and all that stuff is, you know, to some degree, of course, a nativist movement, this presents a kind of disruption to something that's more nefarious than what they're trying to present as the threat of dictatorship and tyranny, the sort of strongman demagoguery of Trump.
00:17:50.000What do you feel when you see those two worlds?
00:17:53.000And is it even possible to speculate on how this is all going to pan out, Jimmy?
00:17:59.000Well, like I said, I think it's going to pan out.
00:18:03.000I'll be surprised if the CIA allows Trump to become president.
00:18:07.000If, as my friend Russell Dobler says, if he does become president, he has to rethink everything he thought about the CIA and the deep state.
00:18:15.000So, I feel the same way, but what people don't realize is that Trump is a billionaire.
00:18:21.000He's always been loved by the establishment.
00:18:23.000Since I was a kid, he was on every late night talk show.
00:18:40.000Hollywood stars would come and call him Mr. Trump and bend their knee to him.
00:18:44.000And then all of a sudden, when he became president, he is the worst thing in the world.
00:18:48.000He's a combination of Hitler and Stalin.
00:18:51.000And it's because, just like Elon Musk, he's a billionaire who stepped out of line a little bit.
00:18:57.000Trump had the crazy idea that the president is supposed to control the military and the intelligence community.
00:19:03.000And as Chuck Schumer said on Rachel Maddow, that he's dumb to think that.
00:19:08.000He shouldn't go against the CIA because they've got six ways this Sunday to get back at the President.
00:19:13.000And what he revealed in that moment was that the CIA and the intelligence community in the United States doesn't work for the President.
00:19:20.000The President better be afraid of them.
00:19:21.000And my question is, well, who do they work for then, right?
00:19:24.000And that should have been the follow-up question, but Rachel Maddow's never going to ask that question because she works for the same people the CIA work for.
00:19:31.000The military-industrial complex, a handful of billionaires, and Wall Street.
00:19:35.000And so the other thing people don't realize is that anybody who's a populist, like, so Trump is more certainly more of a populist than Kamala Harris.
00:19:44.000Kamala Harris was plucked by Wall Street.
00:22:27.000Because Julian Assange revealed through WikiLeaks that an email came from Citigroup, Wall Street, to the Barack Obama campaign with a list of people they wanted in his cabinet.
00:22:37.000And every one of those people on the list ended up in Barack Obama's cabinet.
00:23:16.000And so they're using their identity politics that the fact that they're black as somehow makes them an outsider when they're not outsiders.
00:23:26.000Barack Obama, You know, as Glenn Ford at the Black Agenda Report said, that the Democrats are the greater evil, because they can do things that we would be upset if Republicans did.
00:23:35.000I said, you know, if a Republican becomes president, at least Democrats will protest them when they start a war.
00:23:41.000But if it's Barack Obama or Kamala Harris, if it's a Democrat, especially if it's a black-skinned Democrat, they won't do that.
00:23:52.000So that's, I hope that's not too long of an answer to your question, but that's the world we're living in.
00:23:57.000That's a great observation that they don't realize that they are the establishment.
00:24:02.000That's all that we can stream on YouTube.
00:24:04.000If you want to watch this video in its entirety, click the link in the description right now and join us over on Rumble.
00:24:11.000We can't let Jimmy speak openly and untethered about a variety of subjects like this on a sensorial platform that's ultimately part of the sets of systems that benefit from the control that we exist here on Rumble to oppose.
00:24:27.000It's an incredibly effective way to continue to divide people and retain the piety that's necessary to not fall into the self-examination that one might imagine our circumstances demand.
00:24:44.000When the fleet of former Bush staffers offered their endorsement to Kamala, it was welcomed.
00:24:50.000When the Cheneys offered their endorsement to Kamala, it was welcomed.
00:24:55.000And it's interesting to observe the serpent snaking its way either side of the aisle, masked only by cutaneous distinction, not by anything of depth.
00:25:08.000When you were talking just then about Barack Obama being a continuation of the legacy of Bush, It's very striking because I once watched, I bet you saw it, I may even have found it on your x-feed thinking about it, a PBS documentary about Obama when he was still senator and he weren't running for the nomination yet.
00:25:27.000And what it seemed like was a story of a guy with a pretty unusual and anomalous past who was really pretty righteous actually, becoming a lawyer and doing pro bono work and going to that famous college that Is it browns where african-american people go a lot and like learning more than his marriage to Michelle?
00:25:44.000This is like a really interesting character and it's so astonishing to see that in government what it amounts to is The the things that seem significant prior to their inauguration are merely branding that once in office It's like there will be wars.
00:26:04.000There will not be an investigation into what happened in 2008 And what I suppose we're living in, it seems to me, Jimmy, as the business of war continues terrifyingly, as the information of men and people involved in WikiLeaks, but particularly Julian Assange, starts to permeate into the culture, we have to live in this
00:26:25.000Kind of odd dual reality, I think, people that occupy these kind of independent media spaces and consume this type of content of knowing, yeah, I know that already now about like that's the this document about the cabinet appointments and yet somehow I'm watching the spectacle of I'm watching the spectacle of Oprah Winfrey We're oddly forced to occupy these worlds simultaneously.
00:26:49.000Now, as the consequences increase and the cultural conversation is continually navigated back to divisiveness, issues that I think warrant Of course, the conversation about race and culture and identity, these are significant and important conversations that emerged from the civil rights movement.
00:27:10.000Significantly, the economic component is often, as you say, extracted because there is no cohesive Working class movement that allows people of different colors.
00:27:21.000If I'm in Chicago and I'm principally among people of color.
00:27:27.000At the moment I'm staying in Atlanta and I'm going to speak to the guy that runs the Atlanta Voice out there.
00:27:37.000They're a Democrat party supporting organization.
00:27:40.000And I'm like, I want to talk to him about this election, and I don't want the idea that I believe it's important that the Democratic Party don't win in November.
00:27:52.000I don't want that to be code for, I'm a racist.
00:27:56.000I don't want that to be the conversation.
00:27:58.000And the reason is because, in particular since Bobby's joined, it's like, Well, make America healthy again.
00:28:04.000Do something about big food and big pharma.
00:28:06.000Do something about the relentless machinery of war.
00:28:09.000People will point out that there are certain conflicts that don't seem to be within that purview, but I think most of us are like, the military-industrial complex have too much of a hand in America's foreign policy.
00:28:20.000And of course freedom of speech, which you've already touched upon.
00:28:23.000But how, you know, if branding is ultimately what seems to be determining the outcomes of these election cycles with the deep, you know, the government always wins no matter how you elect, how do we as people that have made this kind of journey, and do you feel an obligation to, be able to talk to people that might affiliate with a
00:28:41.000particular tribe on the basis of the cultural issues that the Democratic Party and their mouthpieces use
00:28:47.000to create a division. How do you conduct those conversations? How do you bring people
00:28:52.000together? And how do you highlight that an anti-establishment movement happens to be coalescing
00:29:01.000Well, the whole game of the establishment is divide and conquer.
00:29:08.000And they want me to, you know, they did a controlled demolition of our economy during COVID, which smashed everybody except a handful of millionaires and billionaires.
00:29:19.000And they want me to blame my neighbor and hate my neighbor for the pain I'm feeling because he wouldn't take a vaccine that didn't work the way they said it did in the first place.
00:29:29.000And the only way you can fight back against that is to coalesce, to come together.
00:30:13.000And so that's what they don't want you to do.
00:30:16.000And that's what they... So even this thing we're speaking at today, they're like, oh, Jimmy, I've had people, many people saying, well, how could you be on stage?
00:30:24.000Because this person thinks that and that person thinks this.
00:30:27.000And I always quote Frederick Douglass.
00:30:30.000I will unite with anyone to do right and with no one to do wrong.
00:30:34.000And so, the fact that I vehemently disagree with other people on other issues, but I agree on certain things, like lawfare, ending wars, freedom of speech, that's what gives it the power.
00:30:45.000If everybody was the same, thought the same, and we came together, nobody cares.
00:30:49.000It's when people who disagree vehemently on certain things come together, and they're like, It's like when I spoke at the anti-war rally last year, and people were like, well, some of those people don't support the LGBTQ agenda.
00:31:03.000I go, yeah, that's not what this rally is about.
00:31:05.000This rally is about everybody coming together to end the war.
00:31:08.000Because if we have a nuclear war, it doesn't matter what your LGBTQ agenda is.
00:31:12.000And people from Code Pink wouldn't come because of that.
00:31:15.000The joke I made was, yeah, I'd like to stop a nuclear war, but not with those people.
00:35:18.000Way that if you focus on the issue and organize around the issue, it creates the opportunity for alliance.
00:35:24.000When you focus on identity, it creates disruption.
00:35:28.000I feel that the type of iconoclasm that emerged in a couple of years ago in your country, just prior to COVID, the pulling down of statues and stuff, I was watching that and I was thinking, where does this end?
00:35:39.000Because of the complexity of these figures and the complexity of the history, ultimately if you pull down these statues and then pull down the ideas that they represent, What will be left?
00:35:48.000You know, I wondered in my country, when would it be Winston Churchill?
00:35:51.000And Winston Churchill's a complex guy in Dresden, and there's lots of arguments.
00:35:55.000But prior to that, I'd been sort of more, I suppose, a somewhat more superficial way.
00:36:01.000I was thinking of like, say, someone like Che Guevara, who like, of course, if like a Cuban nationalist were watching me now, and many of the people I know that live in America, They fled Cuba because of their reaction to Castro's communism.
00:36:16.000They hate him and they would talk about the execution of gay people.
00:36:19.000But my kind of excitement about Che Guevara when I was a kid was, oh wow, this dude was going around starting revolutions.
00:36:27.000And then my fascination with Gandhi is, wow, this guy was willing to sacrifice himself and stand up against the British and was able, through self-sacrifice and incredible leadership, to organize against what was then the most powerful empire in the world.
00:36:40.000And then Martin Luther King, oh wow, this guy, because of his spiritual and religious principles, is willing to...
00:36:46.000They have every single one of those people now in the same way that statues were pulled down against sort of confederate leaders but ultimately presidents and people talking about, you know, George Washington being a slave owner and people talking about, you know, we have in our country people at football matches taking the knee at a soccer match, you know, in front of the royal family and the royal family are applauded And taking a knee against racism.
00:37:11.000But the racism that we're talking about really is surely the racism that's persecutory and exploitative, imperial and colonial.
00:37:16.000They exploited the people of the continent of Africa and that nation of India in order to create the royal family and the incredible colonial and imperial power that are, you know, the beneficiaries of movements that now can be used to divide ordinary working-class people along the lines of the basis of class.
00:37:35.000The football match, white folk there feel sort of tense about it and sort of uncertain.
00:37:40.000And like me, there's a lot of black footballers in my country.
00:37:43.000If that's important to them, of course I'll be on board.
00:37:50.000But it seems that it's being deployed in a way that makes sense when I look at it thusly.
00:37:55.000During the COVID pandemic, I was thinking, They really seem to care a lot about us, locking us in our homes, making us tear this medication, making us wear these masks.
00:38:04.000Where has this care been up till now with issues of poverty and inequality and homelessness and destitution and sending working class people into war?
00:38:14.000And then I've started to think about the subject of migration in a similar way.
00:38:17.000Huh, how come they really care about these refugees and it's our responsibility to offer a home to all these migrants?
00:38:22.000Because where has that care been elsewise?
00:38:25.000And it seems to me that the disruption of individual heroes who in one area of their life, let me be clear about this, in one area of their life represent greatness.
00:38:34.000By destroying them, it's almost like the concept of greatness He's getting pulled by all Gandhi, slept in a bed with his
00:38:40.000nieces, Che Guevara murdered homosexuals, Martin Luther King had affairs with his secretary, Malcolm
00:38:46.000X maybe did sex work when he was young.
00:38:49.000Like everyone's annihilated, everyone's required to be perfect and in this kind of
00:38:53.000male, this nihilistic maelstrom Jimmy, we don't have any leaders to look to, any teachers,
00:38:58.000any aspiration and meanwhile everything is getting banalized and we're sort of,
00:39:02.000our expectations are so low and the kind of conversations we're having aren't addressing
00:39:06.000What's actually life like in America for people in Michigan and Wisconsin?
00:39:10.000What's it actually like to be in America?
00:39:18.000And are you concerned about these wars?
00:39:21.000That are happening everywhere, and the power of big food.
00:39:23.000You know, again, we keep talking about Bobby, but I guess I love Bobby.
00:39:27.000You know, like, he's bringing, suddenly you're talking about the toxicity of foods, the addictiveness of foods.
00:39:33.000And I've seen sort of obvious dem supports going, oh, you don't have to eat that cereal if you don't want to.
00:39:38.000Well, do you know what addiction means?
00:39:39.000It means you do eat it if you don't want to.
00:39:42.000And like, there's a kind of a nihilism somewhere in all of this, and I'm wondering, you know, what you feel about that.
00:39:49.000And again, how do they continue to wave the flag of piety and of righteousness while advocating for war, while advocating for Big Pharma?
00:39:58.000Like, earlier you talked about, I can't remember which example you gave, but when for a minute, like, Pfizer were heroes and people were getting Pfizer.
00:41:03.000So I try to tell people that the trans issue, right?
00:41:06.000So I have no bigotry towards trans people.
00:41:09.000I support them and support their ability to live their life the way they want to without discrimination.
00:41:17.000And you should treat them how you want to be treated.
00:41:19.000But at the same with the overemphasis of this issue.
00:41:23.000Uh, that affects maybe, you know, a small, very small percentage of the population is because that's a way for people like BlackRock and State Street and Vanguard to, as they're raping the planet and screwing workers, They can wrap themselves in a patina of virtue, and they can say, look, I'm for trans, I'm for LGBTQ, and it's all about that now.
00:41:47.000We used to make a joke about it, you know?
00:41:49.000You would put a gay pride flag on a bomb and go, that's a Democrat bomb.
00:43:52.000I think that maybe there's a populist message coming from the Trump campaign now and they were going to do to a populist, whether it's a populist left, whether it's the populist right, whether it's an independent populist, what they're doing to Trump and Bobby, they'll do to anybody who stands up at a populist message.
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00:46:39.000I mean, this is just absolutely criminal what's happening and it needs accountability.
00:46:45.000I really appreciate the way that you continually stitch back to that idea.
00:46:49.000It's a very disciplined way to communicate and broadcast.
00:46:53.000I always learn a lot when I listen to you, but I like most of all the way that you continue to push that important message in a way that I I feel that perhaps, I realize this, you know, like I'm on Rumble, I love Rumble, they really supported me.
00:47:09.000A lot of the native Rumble broadcasters are of the right, so they don't have no brinkmanship, you know, I'm talking about people that I respect over here, Stephen Crow does say, Dan Bongino, some of the big, they're not like in the back of their minds like, oh how does this, you know, they're fully committed.
00:47:25.000So, I learn a lot from listening to how you navigate, because sometimes I get just lost out here, I'm English, I'm from this country, and I know a lot of people that culturally are from comparable backgrounds to me feel a sort of vagrancy, like who are we supposed to, what are we meant to do, we've been coached about Trump, you know, it's interesting, and I feel like what we've got to
00:47:47.000Participate in is at least helping people to observe and it really, I love it to hear you inventory, this is how I feel about the issue of trans, this is how I feel about this issue, you know, like to just lay it out there because it can get so tribal and people, people on both sides, like lean into the uglier parts of the argument.
00:48:04.000I'm never, I'm not comfortable with that stuff.
00:48:16.000You know when you see like recently Jimmy like Zelensky signing those bombs with Josh Shapiro and Trump in his meeting with Zelensky advocating for peace while Biden at the UN was further agitating for an ongoing conflict and foreclosing on the possibility of a peaceful negotiation on this subject of war.
00:48:40.000Isn't that vivid enough for people to see that this is an important political moment for people to come together?
00:48:49.000How do you think like a, you know, like you see podcasters that are pro Kamala that go to White House dinners and stuff or White House events.
00:48:56.000What are they saying to themselves with the Zelensky signing bombs, with the Biden, you know, coming out of his sepulture for a moment just to sort of advocate for further war?
00:50:05.000And when I hear Bobby on stage at a Trump rally say we have to end those endless wars, invest that money back in America, and the whole place cheers, a stadium full of Republican voters cheers, that's what scares them, right?
00:50:19.000Because that's something I could cheer for.
00:50:21.000That's what people on the left are supposed to be cheering for.
00:50:23.000That's when we realize that we have the same common interests.
00:50:27.000We're not as different as people make us.
00:50:29.000We're not the cartoon caricatures that the corporate media makes us out to be.
00:50:33.000When Bobby says he wants to take on Big Agra, and he wants to get the corruption out of the FDA and the CDC, and he wants to take on Big Pharma, And a stadium full of Republican voters cheer that on.
00:50:47.000So that again, that is the message that scares them.
00:50:50.000And that's why they keep on distracting you with everything possible.
00:50:54.000And yeah, they don't want to talk about how they try to corner Trump going, well, don't you want Ukraine to win?
00:50:59.000He says, I want the war to end so people stop dying.
00:51:02.000And right now it's obvious if you anybody who knows anything about this from Chomsky to to Henry Kissinger to Mersheimer and everybody in between has said that this is a NATO provoked war.
00:51:51.000The country's being run by the military-industrial complex, a handful of billionaires, and Wall Street, like it always is.
00:51:58.000And you're not allowed to become president unless they first approve of you, just like we know they approved of Barack Obama from that email from Wall Street.
00:52:07.000We know that's who's running the country, because if it was really being run in the interest of the people, we wouldn't have people living under every bridge.
00:52:15.000We would have healthcare for everybody.
00:52:17.000We wouldn't have education that bankrupted you.
00:52:19.000We wouldn't have housing prices that half the country can't afford a house now in the United States.
00:52:24.000So it's not being run in the interest of the people, and it hasn't been for a long time.
00:52:29.000And when people wake up to that, but the problem is we're not given a real choice.
00:52:34.000So now there's a choice to end the Ukraine war, but the problem was the way Trump governed in his first administration, his first term, he said, I'm going to go to Washington and drain the swamp.
00:52:47.000Well, he drained the swamp, and right at the bottom of that swamp, he found his cabinet.
00:53:00.000So now Bobby is going to try to convince people that, no, he didn't know what he was doing in the first term, and I'm going to show him how to do it this term.
00:53:12.000But what people really need to do to come is workers, just like what happened on Staten Island, workers need to wake up like the truckers did in Canada and come together.
00:53:21.000That's how propagandized people are in America.
00:53:24.000The greatest trick of propaganda is to make you think you're not propagandized.
00:53:41.000We look at the freedom fighters, the truckers in Canada, we call them Nazis.
00:53:45.000We look at the Nazis in Ukraine and we call them freedom fighters.
00:53:48.000That's how backwards and upside down we are in the United States right now.
00:53:52.000And that's why the United States looks the way it is.
00:53:54.000Why workers are living paycheck to paycheck, can't afford their own housing, go bankrupt when they get sick, and people are living under every bridge.
00:54:02.000This is the result of the corporate takeover of your... You know, that's the funny thing.
00:54:06.000They go, well, you know, January 6 undermined our democracy.
00:54:17.000Your democracy was stolen from you decades ago by corporations, which is why workers haven't had a raise since 1980.
00:54:22.000And when are you going to get pissed off about that?
00:54:25.000The answer is never, unless the guy on the television tells them to get pissed off.
00:54:29.000Well, I'm on the television now, and I'm telling them to get pissed off about that, and we need more people with that message.
00:54:36.000On Locals, one of my favorite assets that we make for you guys is Russell Brand's stand-up breakdown.
00:54:41.000Since the beginning of this, I've been thinking about and talking about George Carlin a whole bunch and some of his great, informative, almost foundational artifacts of stand-up comedy.
00:54:51.000Here is one of my favorite pieces of George Carlin.
00:54:54.000I know you love it too, because you lot are always using it in the comments, always citing him and quoting him.
00:55:19.000It won't be, of course, because in schools now, as always, they want you to be compliant and obedient and captured, spellbound and malleable.
00:55:29.000exactly the values that George Carlin stood against, articulated so beautifully.
00:55:35.000There's a magical elixir that emerges, I think, when you blend together imperialism
00:55:49.000The level of propaganda you're talking about, the ability of search engines like Google and social media platforms with the exception of Rumble and X to manage the information in the manner that they do, that reaches most people, that most people live now in a kind of It's a peculiar and cellular reality, it seems to me at least.
00:56:08.000I don't live in your country but I feel when I'm here that there is a kind of a capture has taken place that prohibits the unity that you advocate for so eloquently.
00:56:19.000I was in a mall yesterday in Atlanta and it was all fine brands, real beautiful kind of mall.
00:56:26.000And classical music was playing right loud too, but it was more clockwork orange than soothing.
00:56:32.000It was kind of a bludgeoning classical music rather than an uplifting.
00:56:36.000I had to use a restroom when I was there, and in spite of the sort of sanitary and immaculate nature of the mall itself, when I went to the bathroom, Jimmy, it was like a jail.
00:56:48.000Like the door stops there and ends there.
00:56:51.000Cut off, you might be wearing a sort of an aluminium or aluminium belt to sort of cover yourself as you squat in there.
00:56:58.000It was like some sort of unidentifiable effluvia splattered on the floor.
00:57:03.000I felt like this is what they think of us really.
00:57:07.000You know, out front it's all branding and logos and opportunity and choice, but when you have to do something functional and necessary, animal and human and part of life, they just herd you in like an animal with no expense afforded.
00:57:23.000This is what I feel like we're living in here, like that people don't know they're propagandized because the propaganda is so beautiful and varied, as has been observed before, I think, by your great George Carlin, you know, or any kind of bagel you want, but two political parties.
00:57:41.000And this is it's reached a condition now that is only The only hope offered is because they appear to be in some liminal space when it comes to the control of information.
00:57:58.000Our conversation began with you talking about Brexit and Trump, both of which it seems at the time were informed by nationalism.
00:58:06.000But nationalism is an understandable response to globalism.
00:58:09.000And nationalism, if it's not grounded in exclusivity and bigotry when it comes to ethnicity and culture,
00:58:17.000for example, the UK, it's pretty obvious what the history of the UK is,
00:58:21.000pretty obvious what the kind of culture that would organically emerge out of that would be.
00:58:26.000And your country, which has always been the celebrated melting pot, a nation of immigrants,
00:58:31.000aside from, of course, the native people that are already here and the complexity of slavery.
00:58:35.000The idea that American nationalism could be inclusive culturally, could be inclusive racially, that too is a... and indeed that we are all on one planet together when you have a kind of a cosmic and spiritual perspective on that.
00:58:51.000Seems like it could unlock something through the miracle of the communication we're afforded that could be a genuine threat.
00:58:57.000I spoke to the other guy that started Wikileaks.
00:59:31.000Do you want to live in like... Once the issues are sort of moved back to the centre, you can't have this sort of mad glistening spectacle That benefits from our continual division.
00:59:42.000And I do think that even something like this that we've participated in, Rescue the Republic, which I hope has gone well and people will have seen now, it does offer us a kind of opportunity for unity that allows us to say, well, you know, yeah, you might have this religion or this purview or this aspect of identity that's important to you, but this is what you've got to oppose.
01:00:04.000And like that minute when you said, Occupy and Tea Party coming together, that's it, it's over.
01:00:09.000And then suddenly Black Rock and State Street and deep state bureaucracies are in serious trouble if people were to recognise that power.
01:00:17.000I thought for a while there's no political equivalent, for obvious reasons, of say Uber or Airbnb, like aggregating things.
01:00:26.000Hey, all these people could be renting rooms in their apartment.
01:00:29.000Everyone could just drive a car and we could aggregate, you know, because these are for-profit organizations or whatever.
01:00:34.000But the technology suggests that states and towns and cities and nations could be run with mass decentralization, reduction in state power, ability to oppose corporate power.
01:00:45.000Of course, the will is not there, and the spaces where such things might be discussed have been increasingly controlled.
01:00:52.000Seems almost like a throwback that George Soros' Purchasing, you know, 300 radio stations and Bill Gates is investing hundreds of millions in media.
01:01:00.000But the control of media space is still, it seems, totally significant, isn't it?
01:01:07.000And it looks, just look how they're, so another great way that the establishment divides people is through immigration, unfettered immigration and open borders.
01:01:16.000And you know, but in 2015, Bernie Sanders used to say that was a Koch brothers trick, that they wanted open borders to suppress the wages of workers, which of course they do.
01:01:24.000So if there's a tight labor market, they want to flood the country with immigrants, but it's even more nefarious than that.
01:01:31.000Like, so this latest thing that's happened was with the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, which is where JD Vance is from Ohio.
01:01:37.000And so They want you to be angry at the immigrants.
01:01:42.000What we used to do is we used to outsource our jobs.
01:01:44.000We used to take good jobs, turn them into shitty paying jobs, and export them to third world countries.
01:01:50.000But now what we're doing is we're just bringing in the poor people right into our own country to take the jobs and suppress them.
01:01:56.000There used to be $24-$25 an hour jobs in Springfield.
01:02:17.000That's the part of the story that the corporate media will never tell you.
01:02:22.000How do those people from Haiti become so desperate for low-paying jobs?
01:02:25.000They want to leave their own country and come to the middle of nowhere to do a job at a factory.
01:02:30.000Because the United States have been occupying and decimating that country since the early 1900s.
01:02:37.000Right now, currently, we're paying Kenya $100 million to send a bunch of thugs over to Haiti to suppress because now the militias that are on the ground are realizing they're starting to coalesce to come together to overthrow the puppet government that the United States installed in Haiti, and so we can't have that.
01:02:57.000So literally we paid Kenya, their corrupt government, $100 million to send thugs, their military,
01:03:05.000over to Haiti to keep the people divided, suppress those people from coming together and rising up.
01:03:16.000So the trick is they want you to be angry at the immigrant.
01:03:20.000They want poor working people to be angrier at poorer, more desperate people, at immigrants.
01:03:26.000So what I always tell people, if you find yourself being angry at someone lower on the economic ladder than you, it's a good chance you're being manipulated by someone higher on the economic ladder than you.
01:03:45.000Because there's more oil in Venezuela than there is in Saudi Arabia.
01:03:49.000And once I found that out, I knew it was just a matter of time before we were going to bring democracy to Venezuela.
01:03:54.000And that's exactly what they do it under the guise of.
01:03:57.000That's what Juan Guaido was all about.
01:03:59.000Trump had him at the State of the Union address.
01:04:01.000He's trying to recognize that Juan Guaido is the leader of Venezuela, not Maduro.
01:04:06.000I try to tell people the only reason you have an opinion about an election in Venezuela is because the establishment wants you to have an opinion and they want you to have that opinion that that wasn't a real election.
01:04:18.000Venezuela could work out their own problem.
01:04:20.000The only reason you have an opinion and you want to go smash those communists is because you've been manipulated by propaganda that comes from the economic hitmen billionaires in the West Through their corporate-owned media to make you have an opinion, so when they go into Venezuela and steal their natural resources, you think they're doing it for the help of the people.
01:04:41.000Just like they said we were helping the people in Iraq.
01:04:43.000Just like they said we were helping the people in Libya.
01:04:45.000Just like they said we were helping the people in Syria.
01:04:47.000Just like they said we were helping the people in Afghanistan.
01:04:50.000Just like they say we're helping the people in Ukraine.
01:05:12.000Be angry at the system, the imperialistic system that is run by economic hitmen, billionaires, and has always been run that way for over a hundred years in the West.
01:05:23.000Why don't we stop saying, hey, if Cuba's government and their communist government is so bad, why do we have to sanction the shit out of it?
01:05:30.000Why can't it just collapse on its own?
01:05:34.000If their way of doing things, if their socialism is so bad, why do we have to sanction the shit out of it?
01:05:40.000And, well, the reason why we sanction them is to make people desperate, so to hurt regular people, so then they become so desperate that they overthrow their government, and who's they gonna overthrow?
01:05:51.000Well, then the CIA floods that country with billions of dollars to tell them who to overthrow, and then they can install a puppet, and that's the way the world works, and that's what people need to understand.