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00:02:31.000Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand and what a glorious new dawn it is.
00:02:37.000I awoke, the flowers seemed more radiant, the birds sung more sweetly, Kamala Geddon averted, for it was surely a speech of promise and platitude and glory.
00:03:02.000We'll all live on Lollipop Lane and the rain will taste of lemonade.
00:03:07.000And then I'm reminded, the person that's saying this, Kamala Harris, is already in office, has been in office for four years, albeit peeping around the sepultury Wrinkly figure of Joe Biden.
00:03:20.000And if you wanted to, for example, offer tax cuts or secure the border or protect and honour American troops, all these options are available to you.
00:03:31.000But as we've already come to terms with, this is not an election that's about policies.
00:04:02.000Vibes are what we have now instead of policy.
00:04:05.000Vibes are what we have now instead of elections.
00:04:08.000Vibes and pledges and platitudes are what we have Instead of sincere and open conversation we're offered conciliation and then all of a sudden the rhetoric resumes armed mobs on January the 6th will govern for all Americans and yet the fissures and divisions become visible once the speech ventures away from salutations from
00:04:30.000Kamala's mother, who sounds like a pretty lovely person who doesn't love their own mother.
00:04:36.000But once we move away from the homilies and from the biographies, we're back into the territory of pledges and promises upon which it will be difficult to deliver.
00:04:46.000Back into the curious contradictions, like Trump cozies up to dictators.
00:04:52.000We will make dictators It's pariahs like we made Saudi Arabia a pariah before resuming selling arms to them.
00:04:59.000Or you're not safe with Donald Trump in the White House.
00:05:27.000Let's try to look away when the irony of elder abuse being used as a potential problem that Kamala could tackle is raised.
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00:05:49.000You AwakendWonders, you of course get early access to our interviews, like our brilliant chat with Jay Bhattacharya, and we'll be talking more, of course, about the connotations around RFK's presumed endorsement of Trump.
00:06:24.000In fact, a lot of those Democrats I spoke to today said avoid those policy prescriptions.
00:06:32.000I haven't heard from many voters looking for white papers and policy papers.
00:06:35.000What they want to hear is what her vision is for this country.
00:06:38.000The American people don't vote on policy prescriptions.
00:06:41.000I actually think the way the American people think about this choice is less about the minutiae of policy and more about the direction of the country, number one.
00:06:51.000It's a staggering assumption to claim to know what American people are feeling in this time of confusion, and division, and poverty, and despair, and war, and a total lack of solution, to claim that what they want really is a kind of cozy, comforting vibes, that what they'll be satisfied with is, well, the best vibe of all.
00:07:13.000Electricity, because one thing about that DNC is it's electric.
00:07:17.000For some reason, when I think about the DNC, when I think about Kamala, when I think about the forthcoming election, all I can think of is electricity.
00:08:55.000I think this rivals Barack Obama in 2000.
00:08:59.000For the measurement of electricity alone, by the electricity metric of the electronometer, wattage, voltage, by this is Obama levels of electricity.
00:09:09.000This is a time for us to say thank you, and then say thank you again, and then to continue saying thank you.
00:09:16.000What I found most enjoyable about Kamala's speech was that Declaration at the outset that this was time for business.
00:10:45.000Actually, you've got to pity the signer in this situation, because for two minutes you're going to be working with Thank You, but she does a pretty good job of, like, elaborating on Thank You, and I think extemporising and adding hues, colours and inflections to Thank You that simply were not there.
00:12:32.000One person who gets thanked effusively is Joe Biden, who warrants a thanking really, for surely he did ultimately step aside.
00:12:44.000he had to be shoved, nudged, sedated, pushed, excavated and extracted from his role.
00:12:52.000There was a lot of talk of coups. None of us are fully sure what amendment or clause
00:12:57.000was evoked to extract him. Occasionally Kamala Harris referred to Joe Biden as still doing
00:13:03.000work to bring about Middle Eastern peace. Joe Biden, you might wonder, where's he been?
00:13:08.000Where's he been in the last few days? I remember seeing him on a bicycle looking more competent
00:13:12.000than I remember him being on a bicycle.
00:13:14.000Well Kamala Harris is assured us that what he's doing now is bringing about Middle Eastern peace and one of the highlights of the speech where she simultaneously expressed deep concern for events in Gaza while recognizing that Israel's position is one that can't be openly challenged is an extraordinary Conglomerate of opposing ideas but luckily Joe Biden, thank God for Joe Biden, he's even now working on bringing about Middle East and peace and for that he deserves thanks.
00:13:49.000Thank you Joe for letting the Democratic Party elite insidiously remove you seemingly against your will.
00:14:16.000When Jill Biden, your doctor wife, had to do various methods of first aid at the roadside because you fell off that path with quite a bump.
00:14:27.000Your record is extraordinary, as history will show, and your character The record shows some pretty extraordinary things.
00:14:36.000It seems that favours were granted for money, there's been some extraordinary relationships with Ukrainian energy firms, odd meetings have been taken, and Saudi Arabia are more armed than any pariah ought be.
00:14:49.000Your character is inspiring and Doug and I love you and Jill and are forever thankful to you both.
00:14:57.000Constant fusion of familial omily and near-eulogy and I've-got-a-mum-aren't-you-like-me type rhetoric and an attempt to evoke a kind of wonderland that none of us can believe exists anymore.
00:15:13.000Let's fling our arms around one another.
00:15:15.000Let's unify, except for the people that participated in Jan 6.
00:15:19.000Let's make sure there's no electoral fraud.
00:15:23.000Let's salute everyone, right in the grandmother.
00:15:26.000It's a baffling array of ideas meshed together, but one moment that perhaps What crystallises the hypocrisy is the evocation of the phrase elder abuse.
00:15:39.000Now when you think of elder abuse these days, is there one particular face that comes to mind?
00:15:44.000Is there one particular elderly person trotted out in front of podiums, dragged off stage, wandering into bushes and hedges?
00:15:53.000Straying dangerously near to the blades of Air Force Two.
00:15:58.000Is there one particular elder that has doubtlessly been abused?
00:16:31.000Once you've said, on behalf of the people, you don't need to, pretty much, I suppose, like all creatures great and small, as a lyric, go into every single creature that might be included under the banner of all creatures great and small.
00:16:47.000Once you've said people, we know that you mean all types of different people.
00:16:52.000One thing that troubles me slightly when Kamala Harris says she accepts the nomination on behalf of the people is that people is plural and there isn't even a single person that has voted for Kamala Harris.
00:17:05.000Be clear my entire career I've only had one client the people and so on behalf of the people To people though, can we be more specific?
00:17:23.000Can you carve people up into some subsets?
00:17:26.000Can you turn people against one another while claiming to unite them?
00:17:29.000On behalf of every American, regardless of party, race, gender, or the language your grandmother speaks...
00:17:40.000Things that would be good if they were true.
00:17:43.000These would be ideas that we could appreciate and prosper under if they were ideas that were to be implemented.
00:17:50.000But if they were going to be implemented, you could implement them now because no barriers are about to be removed in the aftermath of the next election.
00:17:59.000This isn't a new threshold that's about to be breached.
00:18:02.000Kamala Harris is in office right now with people.
00:18:09.000On behalf of my mother and everyone who has ever set out on their own unlikely journey, on behalf of Americans like the people I grew up with, people who work hard, chase their dreams, and look out for one another, On behalf of everyone whose story could... Get it?
00:18:39.000Hey, listen, if you're watching this on YouTube, we are gonna leave you now because we're gonna speak freely on behalf of the people to the people.
00:18:49.000We got John Rich coming up with some wonderful...
00:18:53.000Oratory on the subject of Christianity.
00:18:56.000We'll be talking more about the highlights such as they are of Kamala's speech last night and what it means when we are fully immersed in a total 360 spectacle.
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00:20:55.000I accept your nomination to be President of the United States.
00:21:01.000This bit here is a favoured moment of mine because of the necessary pledge to end division,
00:21:10.000to unify, to acknowledge that if you're going to have a United States, it has to be governed
00:21:15.000for everyone and the fissures that have been rendered over decades past must be healed.
00:21:22.000The fissures and cataclysms caused, why let's pick an example, by the 2008 financial crash,
00:21:30.000the foreclosure, the elevation of the banks, the failure to prosecute a single person responsible
00:21:36.000for that seismic and still traumatic event.
00:21:40.000If people are to be healed, if people are to be brought back, if people are to again live together with pride in the way that keeps being referenced, then you're going to have to conciliate and find reconciliation.
00:21:53.000And for a moment, it seems like that's the intention, but we're pretty soon back into familiar territory.
00:22:00.000Our nation, with this election, has a precious, fleeting opportunity to move past the bitterness, cynicism, and divisive battles of the past, a chance to chart a new way forward.
00:22:20.000Not them armed lunatics on Jan 6th though, not the basket of deplorables, an idea that can't ever be shaken from the collective consciousness of the global establishment movement.
00:22:34.000This post was an interesting highlight over the course of the evening.
00:22:38.000Trump does a good one-liner on his own platform.
00:22:42.000He seemed to suspect that that's the way that it would ultimately end up going.
00:22:48.000Now, It may already be the case that Bobby Kennedy has endorsed Donald Trump.
00:22:54.000What's curious about it is to know that part of the reason that his campaign has faltered is because of the lawfare engaged in by, in particular, the Democratic Party machinery.
00:23:07.000Nicole Shanahan was explicit in saying that, you know, say what you will about the MAGA movement or the Republican Party.
00:23:13.000It's the Democrats in particular that have fought in nefarious, peculiar, legislative and insidious ways to keep RFK off the ballot.
00:23:25.000And yet the right to vote Bearing in mind this is a person who has not received any votes, is still continually enshrined and celebrated in this, what many are saying is a masterclass in platitudes, Kamala's ongoing address.
00:23:42.000And the freedom that unlocks all the others the freedom to vote.
00:23:50.000With this election, we finally have the opportunity to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act and the Freedom to Vote Act.
00:24:08.000Now we move into from the kind of merely hollow into the directly hypocritical with talk of economic opportunity that may not tally with some of the more odd price gouging measures that have already been touted.
00:24:27.000We will create what I call an opportunity economy.
00:24:31.000An opportunity economy where everyone has the chance to compete and a chance to succeed.
00:24:44.000You live in a rural area, small town, or big city.
00:24:49.000And as president, I will bring together labor, and workers, and small business owners, and entrepreneurs, and American companies.
00:25:00.000To create jobs, to grow our economy, and to lower the cost of everyday needs like health care and housing and groceries.
00:25:10.000We will provide access to capital for small businesses.
00:25:15.000Sounds good and that would be nice, but with a policy and scenario that we can track in real time, it seems that there hasn't been the execution of expertise alluded to here.
00:25:28.000So these pledges also might be hollow, because what exactly is going on at that border?
00:26:06.000I'm still not clear on this Border Czar policy and another thing I suppose that we should be alert to is that the world does indeed seem to be in a fragile state.
00:26:17.000I think all of us have economic fears and all of us have serious concerns about the
00:26:24.000direction of geopolitical matters between Ukraine and Russia, NATO augmented and orchestrated
00:26:33.000We are all, in spite of Kamala's reference to it and her assurance that Joe Biden is
00:26:38.000working on Middle Eastern peace, have deep concerns, grave fears and dread about the
00:26:43.000ongoing horrors taking place in that region.
00:26:48.000And when we are still not clear about the origin of that conflict, What brought Russia to the precipice of war and indeed the comparisons that could be made to previous American interventions under various Democrat presidents is not clear at all how this person who is in government right now will bring peace in the Middle East or between Ukraine and Russia.
00:27:13.000Especially if you're blaming Trump who, for his evident flaws, did not start any new wars for the four years that he's in office.
00:27:22.000So however dangerous Obama might claim that he is, however dangerous Kamala might claim that he will be, we have to remember he didn't start any new wars and he was in office for four years.
00:27:33.000But hey, he's got to carry the can for Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
00:27:37.000Trump, on the other hand, We've got 70 days until the election.
00:27:51.000We will of course be covering all of it.
00:27:54.000The debates, the announcements, the convictions and the lack of conviction will all be covered.
00:28:00.000It could already be a very different dynamic Contingent, of course, on Bobby Kennedy's presumed endorsement of Trump and the likely connotations of that.
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00:28:33.000This is one of the conversations I've enjoyed most for a long time.
00:28:36.000I've seen John Rich on a bunch of shows, Bon Geno's, Jordan Peterson's.
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00:29:40.000We were watching it, and we were saying like, um, in that bit, thanks Gareth, but Jordan Peterson is thinking, um, Jordan Peterson is thinking, I'm never having that guy on my show again!
00:30:15.000I loved it because I thought, yeah, I love Jordan Peterson.
00:30:18.000I messaged him as well because I thought, as soon as I sent you that message saying, hey, I like their confrontation with JP, I thought I'd message him as well because I didn't want it to feel like I was doing it in a kind of, you know, without being direct.
00:30:30.000But yeah, people, it's weird, like for me, I was just speaking with my pastor a moment ago, and he says that when you are a well-known person and you kind of come out as Christian, you're under a lot of, you're under pressure.
00:30:43.000Like the Christian community is going to embrace you, even if you're a person like me, with like a background that's, you know, like anyone, full of sin and failure and error and mistakes and messing up.
00:30:55.000Like, it's full of contingency for that.
00:30:58.000It's full of the proclamation of the kingdom of heaven that calls sinners.
00:31:03.000And like, I mean, the whole thing is sort of set up in such a beautiful way.
00:31:07.000And Jordan Peterson has been an important voice because like, as you said in that conversation, he is so intelligent.
00:31:14.000But, and I'm reading his book at the moment, which is amazing, you know, like We That Wrestle With God.
00:31:20.000I'm having a look at sort of a copy of that, and like he's got such a masterful understanding of archetypes and psychology, but Christianity is a sort of a different thing, isn't it?
00:31:29.000Like, you know, when you, John, what excites me about your approach to the faith is you're like, Every word in this book is real.
00:31:44.000And how have you got this confidence and zeal in your faith?
00:31:50.000Well, every word in that book is true, and I think that's what flips people out, because they want to believe the parts of it that agree with them.
00:31:59.000They want to go, that part's true, I follow that.
00:32:02.000But then if there's something in the Bible that they don't agree with, or it convicts them, which are major sections of it, they want to leave all that part out.
00:32:11.000They want to rip those pages out and throw them away.
00:32:14.000Well, it's either all true, or it's all a lie.
00:32:16.000I mean, there's no middle ground with that.
00:32:19.000So yeah, I grew up, my dad started preaching at about 19 years old, so he was a kid.
00:32:26.000And instead of going into big churches and stuff, my dad preached in prisons, a lot of prisons, and then he would go out in the streets and preach.
00:32:36.000So, you know, here in America we have Mardi Gras.
00:32:37.000I'm sure you guys know about Mardi Gras down in New Orleans every year.
00:32:41.000It's probably the wildest party of the year in the United States.
00:33:26.000So, Russell, I come from people like that.
00:33:29.000So when you know it's 100% real, all the psychological analysis, all the academia, all the trying to spin it or understand it from a historical standpoint.
00:33:41.000I mean, I've heard it done a hundred ways, just like you have.
00:33:46.000It doesn't mean anything at the end of the day because when you die, which is what I was talking to Jordan Peterson about, I said, Doctor, when you die, your academia, your psychological analysis, your intellect, all the things that you have at your disposal here aren't going to mean anything to him.
00:34:19.000And I think people Go way out of their way to try to complicate that process, and it's not a complicated process.
00:34:26.000As you've recently learned, it's one of the most simple things in the world.
00:34:29.000It's just quite a challenge for especially alpha people, an alpha male or an alpha female, people with a lot of power and maybe a lot of money.
00:34:48.000That's where the scripture that says it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
00:34:57.000That's not saying rich people can't go to heaven or rich people are inherently bad.
00:35:01.000It's saying that people that have a lot in this world It's the toughest situation for them to give it up.
00:35:08.000A guy who's poor, a guy who's on his last leg, it's really easy for him to give up because he doesn't have much to give up.
00:35:15.000But the more you have, the tougher it is.
00:35:16.000And I think that's where a lot of people are.
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00:36:30.000You cited that bit of the scripture in your conversation, like, you know, those that say, Lord, Lord, but when you get here, I'll say, I never knew you.
00:36:38.000You didn't know me when you were on Earth.
00:37:30.000The creator of the simulation comes inside the simulation to tell you how to live in the simulation.
00:37:37.000And like for me as a person with my type of lack of trust in authority and unwillingness to surrender, You know, unless I'm forced to.
00:37:47.000I mean, you think of the military word, surrender.
00:37:49.000You know, if someone tries to impose authority on me, unless I am afraid that I can't resist their authority, either I'm intimidated by them physically or they're backed up by something that I think, oh my god, what can I do about that?
00:38:05.000And then the idea that I, you know, that I'm kneeling before a man.
00:38:09.000In my prayers lately, you know, for the beginning part, the very beginning part of my Christianity, I always felt myself kneeling at the foot of his cross.
00:38:18.000Now I feel myself kneeling at the foot of his throne, kneeling at his feet while he is enthroned.
00:38:25.000And I remember when we met, as we did, at the giddy, extraordinary and bizarre carnival that is the Republican National Convention.
00:38:53.000And there's points where I find that idea sort of comforting, and there's times where I reject it.
00:38:57.000And last night when I woke up in the middle of the night, and I felt fraught, and I felt afraid, and I felt angry, and frustrated, and I felt lost, and I'm trying to find and say Jesus' name, but I can tell that I'm reliant on my own will, I wonder, You know, I don't want to be one of them that says, Lord, Lord, but when I reach the afterlife, it's like I never knew him.
00:39:17.000I want to accept the bondage and slavery, but I do find it hard to surrender.
00:39:40.000And I wonder if someone as familiar and educated in the faith as yourself, John, if you still have that dilemma, if you still feel your own ego, or your own vanity, or your own will, or your own resistance, and what that's like for you.
00:40:15.000You know, it goes to the point that a lot of people have convinced themselves that, well, I can just be a good person.
00:40:23.000If I can just do enough good things in this world, if I can just give enough money to charity, or I can go to church enough, or I can take care of sick people, whatever it is, they think that that is going to add up to basically like a resume that when they die, when their body dies and their spirit takes off, they'll have that resume in their hand.
00:40:44.000And when they meet God Almighty in the flesh, they can say, here's my resume.
00:42:00.000So no, man, I mean, you're in the boat that every other human human since Adam and Eve have been in.
00:42:06.000And that's the constant that's the constant work we have to do.
00:42:10.000John, when you describe Christianity as being like that, you know, like that everyone is falling short of the standards of Christ and therefore we're all sinning and our righteous deeds are as filthy rags, I see that aspect of Christianity that's often under attack.
00:42:27.000I can see how people arrive at that deduction, at least, because it feels very punishing, you know.
00:42:32.000And if you think of the culture of individualism that is prevailing Even if you could say in an extreme form, you might say that wokeness is it, the sort of making the self into a god and a deity, but even 1980s style individualism and egotism and like the sort of self-made man and the
00:42:52.000The country music star or the movie star or whatever.
00:42:55.000These are all self-infatuated ideologies that I think regard what sounds at least like a rather punitive aspect of Christianity as somewhat at odds with self-love or the benign side.
00:43:10.000Another thing we touched upon, mate, when we were chatting, is that everyone likes the idea of Jesus Christ as saviour, but you said not everyone likes the idea of Jesus Christ as Lord.
00:43:21.000Where though, in this, the version of Christianity that you've described, and I love what you're saying, that your consciousness has to be perfectly alloyed onto, glommed onto the presence of the Lord, otherwise you will drift back into selfishness, satanic, cut-off, self-centered, demonic consciousness, worshipping the individual, setting up the false idols and the false orders, worshipping all of a sudden Moloch and Baal become your gods all of a sudden.
00:43:49.000But like, how do you introduce and feel the aspect of Christ that is love, pure, benign, and the aspect of the Trinity that is unending love, when so focused on the failings of any individual?
00:44:06.000Well, I mean, it's a great question, but he's a 360.
00:44:16.000But on the other side, he's the most forgiving that's ever existed.
00:44:22.000I mean, for goodness sake, he allowed his son to be tortured to death, beaten to death, and then murdered on a cross for committing no crime.
00:44:36.000Bled completely out, every single drop of blood bled out.
00:44:40.000Some people don't understand how brutal a crucifixion actually was.
00:44:44.000I mean, that was the most torturous, brutal murder, brutal killing that they had invented at that point, crucifixion.
00:44:51.000You know, the first thing they did to Jesus is they took a cat of nine tails, and a cat of nine tails with a Roman whip.
00:44:58.000And it had nine strands coming out of it, and those leather strands were woven into it.
00:45:03.000Glass, rocks, all kinds of things that would rip and tear.
00:45:08.000And they'd take his cloak off, and they'd start slinging that whip against his back.
00:45:13.000And every time they'd pull it out, it would pull out pieces of flesh off of his back.
00:45:18.000And then they turn him around and then they whip the front side over and over and over till he was almost dead.
00:45:24.000The Romans were really, really skilled at that because they could beat you almost to death.
00:45:40.000This is where they threw all the trash and dead animals and whoever, whatever.
00:45:45.000We're gonna go show you on a trashy, Jesus Christ, Son of God.
00:45:50.000And then they murdered him up on a hill.
00:45:54.000So, any God, any Son of God, Trinity, that loves you enough to do that, I promise loves you enough to forgive you of your daily shortcomings.
00:46:09.000And that's also what separates Jesus from any other, quote, deity that you would want to bring up.
00:46:16.000You know, if you want to go into any other religion out there, no other religion, Has someone that literally died for you, that was allowed to be tortured on your behalf, and that is coming back again?
00:46:52.000And if he's the truth, which he is, then what he said is also true.
00:46:57.000And if what he said is true, that's where it comes down to us to go, OK, I've got to, as Jordan Peters would say, I've got to wrestle with this.
00:47:04.000And that's a dangerous wrestling match because, God forbid, you get killed in a car accident.
00:47:10.000God forbids you have a heart attack, or a stroke, or something happens you didn't account for, and you thought you had another 30 or 40 years, and boom!
00:47:19.000It says to be absent from the flesh is to be present with God, meaning it is immediate.
00:47:25.000It's like I told Dr. Peterson, I'll say it to you too, I'm looking at what Russell Brand lives in.
00:47:32.000That's the encasement, the spirit of Russell Brand, the eternal part of Russell.
00:47:38.000He just lives in that body with the beard on it and the British accent.
00:47:42.000Someday, that's gonna die, and then the real Russell Brand is released, and the real Russell Brand is gonna be standing face-to-face with him.
00:47:50.000And then the question is, what's he gonna see when you walk up there?
00:48:22.000That's what we're, you know, we're gonna boil down to that.
00:48:25.000And I think that's the same bit where he tells that.
00:48:27.000Young man, you might want to drop out all of your stuff and follow me, and the young man goes away sad because he knows he's still infatuated with the things of the world, and Lord alone knows I feel that sometimes.
00:48:38.000But, do you feel that there are some things elsewhere in the Bible, you know, whether in the Gospels or the, uh, the letters or whatever, or even, you know, like, if Christ says his teaching can come down to love God with all your heart and love thy neighbor as you love yourself, how do we deal with some of the cultural stuff Within the Bible, which one might assume from an academic or analytical perspective, bears the marks of the culture from which it's from.
00:49:07.000Perhaps an obvious example being around sex and sexuality.
00:49:11.000If it says like the, you know, that it's licentiousness is sinful, to pursue sex for pleasure, to pursue sex with, to pay for sex is sinful, and of course, you know, Now, quite a few times I've seen the Bible, I didn't know it was in there as much as it was.
00:49:28.000Sex between people of the same sex is sinful.
00:49:32.000How are you going to play that out when, as you said, you see various attempts to repackage and repurpose the Bible?
00:49:40.000Would you say, like, if you were looking to have a conversation that was somewhat conciliatory with gay people who, by the virtues of the scripture there, or by the, excuse me, by the letter of scripture, are in sin, that by the metric that they are judged, Basically, anyone who's having sex just for pleasure is sinning, and that sex is sacred, and that sex really only ought be happening, and I'm asking this because I don't understand it and I don't know the answer, that sex will only really be happening in a marriage, and really only to create kids, probably.
00:50:20.000Like, the pleasure aspect of sex is in order that you have it, not in order to get the pleasure.
00:50:28.000Like, or are you, or would you say that the Bible is explicitly saying different, like, you know, same-sex couples, that is specifically wrong, you're going to hell, there's no way out?
00:50:42.000Because I feel like that, you know, that people are still struggling with that idea, and I, you know, when I think of that love thy neighbor as thy love thyself aspect, I feel like, you know, if Christ were here now, How would he be handling all of the issues around identity, sexuality, given that what he says is love, love, love?
00:51:03.000Well, all the things you just mentioned existed back then, too.
00:51:45.000He didn't like the Sadducees and the Pharisees, which were the religious elite of his day, which, by the way, were the ones that also ultimately turned him in to the Roman Empire.
00:51:57.000He was interested in going out to where the people were.
00:52:00.000And those people had all the same kind of problems that we have today.
00:52:03.000You can look at the twelve disciples directly and find out that, man, these guys were I mean, these are some pretty raucous gentlemen out there.
00:52:15.000You know, it says Peter and James and John, when they were sailing out fishing on the Sea of Galilee, they'd been drinking wine all day, you know, and they're day drinking and trying to catch fish.
00:52:25.000And Jesus walks by and goes, come over here.
00:52:37.000So he did not pick people That had some kind of perfect look about them because anybody that thinks that they're perfect or tries to act like they are, are the most hypocritical creatures in the world.
00:52:50.000So he went after the ones that had all kinds of problems.
00:52:52.000Matter of fact, the more fouled up they were, The more he went after them, the more he wanted them to understand the truth and come to the side of truth.
00:53:02.000I've heard you talk in a recent interview, Russell, about Paul, who was Saul prior to that.
00:53:08.000And so as he saw, he's working for the Roman Empire, and Saul's job was to hunt down Christians
00:53:16.000and cut their heads off or set them on fire.
00:53:19.000It's where the phrase Roman candle comes from.
00:53:21.000They would put Christians down and tar and light them on fire
00:53:26.000and they'd look like a candle burning.
00:53:28.000This was Saul's entire job, and he was very good at it.
00:53:53.000And upon that realization, he realized, I've been killing his people.
00:53:57.000I've been killing his kids this whole time.
00:54:00.000And so when he finally got back up on his feet, he did a complete turn.
00:54:03.000He went from Saul to Paul, and then he started writing, and he wrote half of the New Testament.
00:54:09.000So to answer your question, people that are involved in whatever kind of sin they're involved in, the way Jesus went after them was, number one, He did show love to them.
00:54:19.000He showed them that he cared about them.
00:54:22.000And at the same time, he told them the truth about what it was that they were doing and what the stakes were, what their eternity was going to be like if they stayed on that path and never turned to him.
00:54:34.000It was he loved them, but he also told them the truth.
00:54:37.000And I think any more you have maybe The majority of both sides of the table, it's either all love and no truth, or it's all truth and no love.
00:54:46.000It's not both, and it's supposed to be both.
00:55:07.000This guy was self-infatuated and self-centred.
00:55:10.000This person tried to create his own power on earth the whole time.
00:55:14.000You know, as a person like that, when I figured out the time when I was living licentiously as a promiscuous person, I'm beginning to understand now, because of some stuff I read in Paul, Corinthians actually, in fact, it was more when I heard it read out rather than read it.
00:55:26.000I heard it in church, the bit where Paul goes, The pastor that did it, old Father Dave, he done it so lovingly, he goes, you know, do you not know that your body is a temple?
00:55:39.000I like the phrasing, so gentle, to say maybe you lot don't know this, but your body is a place where God can inhabit and you are seriously mistreating it.
00:55:50.000And I feel like what I was doing was like trying to generate my own energy and my own power.
00:55:57.000Like, sex is a sort of magical, powerful thing.
00:56:01.000And when you have sexual attraction, when you are able to attract to a high-level mate, it feels very, very rewarding.
00:56:11.000And also sort of psychotically unending, I would say.
00:56:15.000You know, like, I know a lot about addiction, as in I've experienced a lot of different types of addiction.
00:56:20.000And there's something about it, it just won't ever, kind of, you can't do anything about it.
00:56:24.000You know, like, whether it's a chemical thing, where you could track why you're having to do it more, or a behavioural thing, where you can't see so obviously why you're having to do it more.
00:56:34.000You do get the idea that you're descending down.
00:56:37.000That you're descending down into something that is dark and unfulfillable.
00:56:42.000And this idea that you're trying to generate your own energy, it seems important.
00:56:45.000Now, given, like, that you're starting to exist, at least culturally, John, in somewhat political spaces, a slight pivot of interest to me is how, like, before I was Christian, when, like, say when in your country the Republican Party would have been George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and stuff, George W. was an explicit, uh, overt Christian, and, like, you know, there's that war that goes down in Iraq that, in retrospect, was a Double wrong war.
00:57:11.000And then there's like now we have like a kind of, I would say that the globalist class, I would call them, that tend to find their seats of power within the structures of parties that are nominally of the left.
00:57:27.000They are explicitly about rationalism, the individual, managerialism, technology, human power is the apex, we will solve all the problems through technology, we will solve all of the problems through people's ingenuity.
00:57:45.000But the right, still in the figure of Donald Trump, has, you know, and I must say, over time I've become a lot more sympathetic to Trump.
00:57:52.000One, because he's so funny and charismatic.
00:57:57.000Two, because the people that hate him are, I think, examples of this bureaucratic class of globalists that I consider to be the real threat to democracy, rather than populists.
00:58:08.000But nevertheless, I wonder, you know, you, I figure, you've praised Trump, And I wonder what you feel like he, what, like, you know, you've just said we all fall short.
00:58:20.000But when Christianity is used within politics, i.e.
00:58:24.000the Christian right, there would have been a point, John, where I'd have seen that as a contradiction in terms, like the Christianity and Christ are so much about love that how could that be a party that has historically been associated with war and still contemporarily are going to be a party of materialism that are not going to be a party that are like gonna govern like Jesus Christ would govern or will govern when he comes back not all meek and mild but double tooled up and powerful
00:58:54.000I wonder how you feel that Christianity within politics, or probably perhaps any religion, but given that it's you, Christianity in politics, whether or not that sits right and is right, and what complexity comes from it?
00:59:09.000Well, first of all, the Lord is not political.
00:59:13.000He is not part of a political party, number one.
00:59:17.000Number two, we just discussed some of the most Unlikely people ever that God picked to do some pretty incredible jobs.
00:59:52.000I mean, that's about as bad as it gets, honestly.
00:59:54.000And then David paid a horrible price for that.
00:59:57.000He was punished horribly for that, as he should have been, and then he repented and came back.
01:00:02.000Listen, America, a lot of Americans, especially Christians in America, I think that America, because it was founded on Christian principles to a large extent, I mean, endowed by our Creator with a capital C, with certain unalienable rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
01:00:20.000So, I mean, God was referenced all throughout our original writings.
01:00:25.000But they have this misconception that because of that, America is immune from the wrath of God.
01:00:34.000That he's never going to come after us because we're a Christian nation.
01:00:39.000And the real answer to that, Russell, is he comes after Christian nations, or nations that claim that they serve and follow him.
01:00:48.000He comes after them ten times harder than he comes after total pagan nations.
01:00:57.000There's a very quoted verse, 2 Chronicles 7.14.
01:01:02.000And I'm not going to be able to quote it all perfectly, but it says, if this is God talking, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and turn from their evil ways, I will come and I will heal their land.
01:01:17.000But he doesn't say if the devil's people will, if the devil's people will stop being wicked, if the devil's people will turn from their wicked ways.
01:01:26.000He's saying if my people, mine, my kids, So throughout the history of what we know of the Lord, which is, you know, He says, I'm the same yesterday, today, and forever.
01:02:21.000I was talking to somebody last night about the election that's coming up.
01:02:25.000And this was a Christian lady that was talking to me.
01:02:28.000And she said, I believe God has put Donald Trump in that position to come in and straighten this thing out, you know, get us back on track.
01:02:38.000And I said, well, just understand this.
01:03:42.000And the point of that is, It's punishment just like a father would punish a son.
01:03:47.000You do that so the son hopefully learns to turn and stop doing what he was doing because it might have been something dangerous he was doing.
01:04:15.000The scripture that says every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord at the end when it's all said and done, that means the devil too.
01:05:29.000There's a lot to think about there, John Rich.
01:05:31.000I feel like I recognize what you're saying about the stiffening of the neck and how much resistance I have had to yield in to Christianity, accepting Christ, surrendering.
01:05:45.000It's been very difficult and as a result of suffering and trauma and being broken, broken like a vase, but also broken like a beast of burden.
01:05:57.000I also like what you say about that nothing happens but by his will, that even if something is conceived by Satan, it'll be used for his will, if he allows it to happen.
01:06:10.000So even though there's, I experience some dark stuff, you know, but I can feel how I'm being shaped, fashioned, Guided.
01:07:41.000But all of that stuff, the Paul stuff, I always thought before... I'm one of them people that thought I knew what was in the Bible without reading it.
01:07:47.000Like that's... I totally would have thought... Yeah, I get the idea.
01:07:51.000And I sort of had the sense that Paul was kind of taking the message of Christ and making it into something that could be used as a method of social control.
01:08:03.000I didn't realise that Paul was out there on trial, jailbreaking, travelling around, getting shipwrecked.
01:08:10.000Like, going through what sounds like a lot of hell, having to work for a living to carry the message, and it's this version of Christianity, this early Christianity, that probably a lot of newly converted Christians find exciting, because that idea, you know, and this is coming off the back of what you just said then, is that, like, presumably in the same way as you're saying there's no classification or categorization when it comes to sin, there's just, you are either inviting Jesus Christ in through personal relationship or you are not, Same with politics.
01:08:41.000It's not like Jesus- that God would go, I'm well down with Donald Trump, or I'm well down with Bobby Kennedy, or I'm well down with Kamala Harris.
01:08:52.000We're talking about an aspatial, atemporal, total creator, holy trinity.
01:08:58.000And I wonder, therefore, if what- At a time like ours, John, I don't know that it's unique, because you said before all the things that are going on nowadays was going on in the Bible, except without tech.
01:09:08.000Although you've got to say, haven't you, mate, that tech does supercharge and it does speed stuff up.
01:09:15.000If this idea of a new Christianity where people are hanging out in groups of twos and threes, are looking at themselves as Christian above all else, not Republican or Democrat, not black or white, and like in Paul, you know, it ain't about the circumcised no more.
01:09:37.000Get involved, get involved and start identifying with Christ before and above all else that we may be saved individually.
01:09:44.000Although I will just tag one of the things I keep seeing is nowhere in here does Jesus say, get out there and take over the government and take over the planet.
01:10:09.000You know, the thing about accepting Jesus Christ and really doing it, like really turning yourself over to Him for real, is that once a person actually does that for real, all the things that they had been doing prior to that moment happening, all of a sudden start to become pushed out they become they can't coexist with him like he's inside of you so all these things you used to do all the time now you don't even want to do those things anymore he changes your mindset where you don't even want to it's almost there's a repulsion of it it's like this there's no space for that anymore because he filled up all that space a lot of people i'd say most people me included
01:10:54.000You know, when you go out in your life and you're messing up big time and you're chasing whatever vice that is, like you said, drugs, alcohol, money, sex, whatever it might be, people are looking to do those things to fill a void that they've got, and they're never able to fully fill it.
01:11:11.000That's why they have to constantly get more and more and more, and it's never filled.
01:11:16.000And when they give their life to Jesus, He comes in, and all the voids that you had are now completely filled.
01:12:24.000And when you read the book of Revelation, for instance, You know, that's about Jesus coming back.
01:12:29.000It's about what's going to happen before He comes back, and what's going to happen after He comes back.
01:12:34.000It lays it all out, written by the Apostle John 2,000 years ago on the Isle of Patmos.
01:12:41.000John was actually, he was a prisoner at that point.
01:12:44.000He'd been exiled, and he wrote the book of Revelation.
01:12:46.000But throughout the last couple of thousand years, Theologians, preachers, regular people like us would read Revelation and could not make heads or tails as to how this stuff was even possible.
01:13:10.000And nobody could ever understand, well, how in the world can you track everybody in the world and know how they spend their money and stop them from spending their money?
01:13:32.000And I think today the reason you're seeing a lot of people starting to wake up and pick the book up and start to read it and start to open up is because they can feel that these things are now happening.
01:17:09.000And so I thought, man, I don't know what people are going to think about this song or about that video, but it hit me like a ton of bricks last fall.
01:17:18.000I was here at the house in Nashville, and all of a sudden it just washed over me, this chorus that you just played.
01:18:02.000Russell, it's been incredible, the responses that have come from this.
01:18:07.000So many people, millions of people now, have I've seen this video, have commented, whether it's social media, Rumble, YouTube, other places, and said, I just picked up the Bible for the first time in 15 years, and I'm now reading it.
01:18:25.000To get people to wake up and realize, this is way bigger than politics, this is way bigger than left and right, way bigger than culture.
01:18:32.000This is the ultimate that's going on right now.
01:18:34.000And to my point earlier, I think with the advent of tech and all the things that have happened, we don't know when this is all going to take place, but it's now possible for these things to take place.
01:18:44.000Those prophecies are not just in Revelation.
01:19:13.000He's gonna, like, now that his name's come, now that you've alluded to him, because I was just thinking we should do a message, we say hello, we say hello to, we do a little message for Joe, because he loves you and he loves your video.
01:19:40.000Thanks for the way that you explain Christianity with such certainty, but with such delicacy, and actually even your answer to the sin thing.
01:19:52.000I mean, you know, that idea that none of us is in a position to judge no one, it just comes again and again, doesn't it?