Stay Free - Russel Brand - August 26, 2024


“KAMALAGEDDON" - Kamala's Empty Promises DNC Finale Speech REACTION! With JOHN RICH - SF 437


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 21 minutes

Words per Minute

166.02908

Word Count

13,512

Sentence Count

856

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

Kamala Harris is the Democratic presidential candidate in the Democratic primary, and she's got a heck of a lot of vibes. But what does that mean for the rest of us? Is it a good thing or a bad thing? And what does it mean for her chances of winning the nomination? To find out, Russell Brand and YouTuber and writer Jay Bhattacharya talk all about it, and why it's not as simple as it sounds. Plus, a live shot of the 2020 Democratic primary debate, hosted by Russell Brand, and a look at what it means for the future of American politics. This episode is brought to you by In This Video, You're Going to See the Future. In this video, you'll get to see the future, and we've got a Live shot there. Stay free with Russell Brand: Stay Free, and What a Glorious New Dawn it is! - Russell Brand And What a glorious new dawn it is. - It's a glorious New Dawn It is! - What A glorious new day! - I awoke, and the flowers seemed more radiant, the birds sung more sweetly, for it was surely a speech of promise and platitudes and platitude and glory. - For it was Surely a speech? - for it's surely a masterpiece? For more information about her chances in 2020, check out our new podcast Stay free, Stay free! - - Stay Free! - Stay w/ Russell Brand - Stay free - Thank you, You Awakened Wonders! - Rachael Thank you for joining me, Rachit Mehta - JAY Bhattacarya - Jay Bhatchandani - Ronna Mcgregor - Neil Oliver - The New York Times - The Vagabond - Rachel Maddow - And we'll be talking about this and much more! - And that's it! - and that's not even half as good as it gets better than the rest! - Rachel Holliday - and so much more. - and we're going to see you soon! - JANE O's interview with Jay Babbach and the other half of the R&B - and more! . Rachie s interview with the great Neil Oliver, exclusively on Rumble on Rumble On Rumble - in this episode exclusively on RUMBLE - on Rumble You AwakendWonders


Transcript

00:00:00.000 so so
00:02:10.000 brought to you by In this video, you're going to see the future.
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00:02:30.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
00:02:31.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand and what a glorious new dawn it is.
00:02:37.000 I awoke, the flowers seemed more radiant, the birds sung more sweetly, Kamala Geddon averted, for it was surely a speech of promise and platitude and glory.
00:02:49.000 Everything's gonna be alright now.
00:02:51.000 I had the feeling that I often have when watching political speeches.
00:02:55.000 If people were to do the things they actually say they're going to do, then everything would be okay.
00:03:02.000 Why?
00:03:02.000 We'll all live on Lollipop Lane and the rain will taste of lemonade.
00:03:07.000 And then I'm reminded, the person that's saying this, Kamala Harris, is already in office, has been in office for four years, albeit peeping around the sepultury Wrinkly figure of Joe Biden.
00:03:20.000 And if you wanted to, for example, offer tax cuts or secure the border or protect and honour American troops, all these options are available to you.
00:03:31.000 But as we've already come to terms with, this is not an election that's about policies.
00:03:37.000 It's an election that's about vibes.
00:03:39.000 And the DNC do a great job of vibes.
00:03:43.000 Whether it's drummers or movie stars or pop stars or Taylor Swift hovering tentatively near to the event.
00:03:51.000 I don't know if she appeared at some point or emerged.
00:03:54.000 Or rumours that George W. Bush might peep out from the crowd.
00:03:59.000 It was all about the vibes.
00:04:02.000 Vibes are what we have now instead of policy.
00:04:05.000 Vibes are what we have now instead of elections.
00:04:08.000 Vibes and pledges and platitudes are what we have Instead of sincere and open conversation we're offered conciliation and then all of a sudden the rhetoric resumes armed mobs on January the 6th will govern for all Americans and yet the fissures and divisions become visible once the speech ventures away from salutations from
00:04:30.000 Kamala's mother, who sounds like a pretty lovely person who doesn't love their own mother.
00:04:36.000 But once we move away from the homilies and from the biographies, we're back into the territory of pledges and promises upon which it will be difficult to deliver.
00:04:46.000 Back into the curious contradictions, like Trump cozies up to dictators.
00:04:52.000 We will make dictators It's pariahs like we made Saudi Arabia a pariah before resuming selling arms to them.
00:04:59.000 Or you're not safe with Donald Trump in the White House.
00:05:03.000 Why?
00:05:03.000 Putin will be emboldened and will invade Ukraine.
00:05:06.000 Forgetting that, of course, Putin invaded Ukraine while Biden was in office.
00:05:11.000 But it's a confusing and messy world when you have to move away from the glitz And the rhetoric and into policy.
00:05:19.000 It's best just to stick with the vibes, man, and to say thank you for two minutes straight.
00:05:25.000 Let's start with the vibes.
00:05:26.000 Let's look at some of the best bits.
00:05:27.000 Let's try to look away when the irony of elder abuse being used as a potential problem that Kamala could tackle is raised.
00:05:38.000 Wherever you're watching this will be available for the first 15 minutes on YouTube, but we will be streaming freely as we were Live with our watch, along with the great Neil Oliver, exclusively on Rumble.
00:05:49.000 You AwakendWonders, you of course get early access to our interviews, like our brilliant chat with Jay Bhattacharya, and we'll be talking more, of course, about the connotations around RFK's presumed endorsement of Trump.
00:06:02.000 But first, man, it's vibes, man!
00:06:04.000 Let's just focus on the vibes!
00:06:06.000 The question is, and you hear the criticism, oh she has to do more interviews, she has to talk about policy.
00:06:09.000 Interesting from insiders you're speaking to, they're sort of like, no, absolutely not.
00:06:15.000 Haven't needed to do it so far, why start now?
00:06:17.000 And that's exactly it.
00:06:18.000 Their concern about her doing that could potentially trip her up and give Trump some ammunition.
00:06:23.000 This election needs more cowbell.
00:06:24.000 In fact, a lot of those Democrats I spoke to today said avoid those policy prescriptions.
00:06:32.000 I haven't heard from many voters looking for white papers and policy papers.
00:06:35.000 What they want to hear is what her vision is for this country.
00:06:38.000 The American people don't vote on policy prescriptions.
00:06:41.000 I actually think the way the American people think about this choice is less about the minutiae of policy and more about the direction of the country, number one.
00:06:51.000 It's a staggering assumption to claim to know what American people are feeling in this time of confusion, and division, and poverty, and despair, and war, and a total lack of solution, to claim that what they want really is a kind of cozy, comforting vibes, that what they'll be satisfied with is, well, the best vibe of all.
00:07:13.000 Electricity, because one thing about that DNC is it's electric.
00:07:17.000 For some reason, when I think about the DNC, when I think about Kamala, when I think about the forthcoming election, all I can think of is electricity.
00:07:26.000 The whole thing.
00:07:27.000 It's electrifying!
00:07:29.000 Electrifying!
00:07:30.000 You better shape up.
00:07:31.000 It was though someone had plugged in a cable, a current was connected, and there was pure electricity in the room.
00:07:37.000 Thank you for sharing with us some of the electricity.
00:07:40.000 The energy is incredibly electric.
00:07:42.000 You know, it was just electric.
00:07:43.000 Sort of electric, because I've never seen it.
00:07:45.000 It was absolutely electric.
00:07:47.000 Talk to me about the atmosphere in here.
00:07:49.000 Is it electric?
00:07:50.000 Excitement, it is electric.
00:07:52.000 Senator.
00:07:52.000 Sorry, I was going to say exciting.
00:07:54.000 I mean, it begins with the letter A. Say it's electric.
00:07:57.000 It was electric.
00:07:58.000 Schumer wasn't lying when he was saying that there's a lot of electricity and excitement right now.
00:08:03.000 So it's incredibly electric.
00:08:05.000 It's electric.
00:08:07.000 We are told what to feel.
00:08:08.000 We are told how to interpret.
00:08:10.000 We are told how to live.
00:08:11.000 We are told to go into our homes.
00:08:12.000 We're told to stand six feet apart.
00:08:14.000 We're told to take our medicine.
00:08:16.000 We're told that NATO is a good thing.
00:08:18.000 We are told that endless yielding to global bureaucracies is positive.
00:08:23.000 We're told that endless war is necessary for peace.
00:08:25.000 Last night was electric.
00:08:26.000 It'll be electric.
00:08:27.000 Electrifying.
00:08:27.000 everything can change. It's meaning we are told that everything is okay, but above all else we are told that
00:08:33.000 things are electrifying.
00:08:34.000 Something just got uncorked.
00:08:36.000 Room in Chicago quite electric tonight.
00:08:38.000 Last night was electric.
00:08:39.000 It'll be electric.
00:08:40.000 Electrifying.
00:08:41.000 Electrification.
00:08:42.000 There is electricity in this room, there is energy in this room, and there is enthusiasm in this room.
00:08:47.000 A lot of electricity and energy in this hall across this country that you've never seen.
00:08:53.000 Not even with Barack Obama in 2008?
00:08:55.000 I think this rivals Barack Obama in 2000.
00:08:59.000 For the measurement of electricity alone, by the electricity metric of the electronometer, wattage, voltage, by this is Obama levels of electricity.
00:09:09.000 This is a time for us to say thank you, and then say thank you again, and then to continue saying thank you.
00:09:16.000 What I found most enjoyable about Kamala's speech was that Declaration at the outset that this was time for business.
00:09:25.000 Right!
00:09:25.000 It's time for business.
00:09:27.000 This is business time.
00:09:28.000 The time for electricity and for vibes is over.
00:09:31.000 This now is business time.
00:09:34.000 The business of saying thank you.
00:09:36.000 Thank you.
00:09:37.000 Just endlessly.
00:09:37.000 Then thank you to my mum.
00:09:38.000 Then thank you to my husband.
00:09:40.000 Then thank you to Christopher Waltz.
00:09:41.000 Like, nothing has been won yet.
00:09:43.000 No one has been voted for.
00:09:45.000 No one has been nominated.
00:09:47.000 Biden didn't participate in primaries.
00:09:49.000 And Kamala Harris has arrived in this position by an extraordinary process.
00:09:54.000 Bobby Kennedy, not allowed to run.
00:09:56.000 Marianne Williamson, not allowed to participate in primaries.
00:09:58.000 The whole thing is extraordinary.
00:10:02.000 But what it shows us is that we don't need to have And are not permitted to have a relationship with an actual and organic reality.
00:10:11.000 We are so asphyxiated by propaganda, albeit an electrifying fugue of propaganda, that it's impossible to see beyond it.
00:10:20.000 So, I mean, I just want to say thank you, really.
00:10:23.000 I just want to thank everybody.
00:10:26.000 Gratitude is important.
00:10:28.000 I mean, and this, above all else, is an expression of gratitude.
00:10:32.000 Good evening!
00:10:34.000 Oh my goodness.
00:10:36.000 Good evening everyone.
00:10:38.000 Oh my goodness.
00:10:40.000 Good evening everyone.
00:10:45.000 Actually, you've got to pity the signer in this situation, because for two minutes you're going to be working with Thank You, but she does a pretty good job of, like, elaborating on Thank You, and I think extemporising and adding hues, colours and inflections to Thank You that simply were not there.
00:11:02.000 Good evening.
00:11:05.000 Thank you.
00:11:08.000 Behind every cynic they say is a wounded optimist and isn't there part of you that yet still
00:11:30.000 craves to believe?
00:11:32.000 To believe that this is somehow real?
00:11:34.000 To believe that there could be change or good by the ascension of Kamala Harris?
00:11:41.000 It's only when you remind yourself this person already has access to the levers of power. This person is in office right now.
00:11:48.000 So when she makes a pledge that she's going to tighten up security at the border, you
00:11:52.000 have to sort of force from your mind the thought, but aren't you the border czar? Aren't
00:11:58.000 you already in a position to do all these things? And then you think, no, it's okay.
00:12:02.000 It doesn't matter. I've just seen the Dixie chicks without.
00:12:05.000 Thank you!
00:12:07.000 Thank you everyone!
00:12:08.000 Everything has to be okay. Taylor Swift's plane has landed.
00:12:12.000 Everything is going to be okay. Just keep saying thank you.
00:12:17.000 Good evening. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
00:12:31.000 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
00:12:31.000 It goes on for a while.
00:12:32.000 One person who gets thanked effusively is Joe Biden, who warrants a thanking really, for surely he did ultimately step aside.
00:12:44.000 he had to be shoved, nudged, sedated, pushed, excavated and extracted from his role.
00:12:52.000 There was a lot of talk of coups. None of us are fully sure what amendment or clause
00:12:57.000 was evoked to extract him. Occasionally Kamala Harris referred to Joe Biden as still doing
00:13:03.000 work to bring about Middle Eastern peace. Joe Biden, you might wonder, where's he been?
00:13:08.000 Where's he been in the last few days? I remember seeing him on a bicycle looking more competent
00:13:12.000 than I remember him being on a bicycle.
00:13:14.000 Well Kamala Harris is assured us that what he's doing now is bringing about Middle Eastern peace and one of the highlights of the speech where she simultaneously expressed deep concern for events in Gaza while recognizing that Israel's position is one that can't be openly challenged is an extraordinary Conglomerate of opposing ideas but luckily Joe Biden, thank God for Joe Biden, he's even now working on bringing about Middle East and peace and for that he deserves thanks.
00:13:49.000 Thank you Joe for letting the Democratic Party elite insidiously remove you seemingly against your will.
00:13:56.000 to our president Joe Biden.
00:13:59.000 When I think about the path that we have traveled together, Joe, I am filled with
00:14:10.000 gratitude.
00:14:11.000 There's that bit where I shoved you off of that path and into a ditch.
00:14:15.000 Remember that?
00:14:16.000 When Jill Biden, your doctor wife, had to do various methods of first aid at the roadside because you fell off that path with quite a bump.
00:14:27.000 Your record is extraordinary, as history will show, and your character The record shows some pretty extraordinary things.
00:14:35.000 We don't have to wait for history.
00:14:36.000 It seems that favours were granted for money, there's been some extraordinary relationships with Ukrainian energy firms, odd meetings have been taken, and Saudi Arabia are more armed than any pariah ought be.
00:14:49.000 Your character is inspiring and Doug and I love you and Jill and are forever thankful to you both.
00:14:57.000 Constant fusion of familial omily and near-eulogy and I've-got-a-mum-aren't-you-like-me type rhetoric and an attempt to evoke a kind of wonderland that none of us can believe exists anymore.
00:15:13.000 Let's fling our arms around one another.
00:15:15.000 Let's unify, except for the people that participated in Jan 6.
00:15:19.000 Let's make sure there's no electoral fraud.
00:15:21.000 Let's control the border.
00:15:23.000 Let's salute everyone, right in the grandmother.
00:15:26.000 It's a baffling array of ideas meshed together, but one moment that perhaps What crystallises the hypocrisy is the evocation of the phrase elder abuse.
00:15:39.000 Now when you think of elder abuse these days, is there one particular face that comes to mind?
00:15:44.000 Is there one particular elderly person trotted out in front of podiums, dragged off stage, wandering into bushes and hedges?
00:15:53.000 Straying dangerously near to the blades of Air Force Two.
00:15:58.000 Is there one particular elder that has doubtlessly been abused?
00:16:03.000 I can think of one little guy.
00:16:04.000 For seniors facing elder abuse.
00:16:10.000 Yeah, I mean, he's got the tricky job, according to Kamala, of right now solving the not easy enigma and riddle of Middle Eastern peace.
00:16:20.000 So, I don't know, man.
00:16:21.000 I think that struggle continues, yeah.
00:16:24.000 Now, The word people is, by its nature, an inclusive term.
00:16:28.000 All of us fall under that banner.
00:16:31.000 Once you've said, on behalf of the people, you don't need to, pretty much, I suppose, like all creatures great and small, as a lyric, go into every single creature that might be included under the banner of all creatures great and small.
00:16:45.000 You've said it.
00:16:46.000 It's all creatures great and small.
00:16:47.000 Once you've said people, we know that you mean all types of different people.
00:16:52.000 One thing that troubles me slightly when Kamala Harris says she accepts the nomination on behalf of the people is that people is plural and there isn't even a single person that has voted for Kamala Harris.
00:17:05.000 Be clear my entire career I've only had one client the people and so on behalf of the people To people though, can we be more specific?
00:17:23.000 Can you carve people up into some subsets?
00:17:26.000 Can you turn people against one another while claiming to unite them?
00:17:29.000 On behalf of every American, regardless of party, race, gender, or the language your grandmother speaks...
00:17:40.000 Things that would be good if they were true.
00:17:43.000 These would be ideas that we could appreciate and prosper under if they were ideas that were to be implemented.
00:17:50.000 But if they were going to be implemented, you could implement them now because no barriers are about to be removed in the aftermath of the next election.
00:17:59.000 This isn't a new threshold that's about to be breached.
00:18:02.000 Kamala Harris is in office right now with people.
00:18:09.000 On behalf of my mother and everyone who has ever set out on their own unlikely journey, on behalf of Americans like the people I grew up with, people who work hard, chase their dreams, and look out for one another, On behalf of everyone whose story could... Get it?
00:18:36.000 It's people.
00:18:37.000 It's people.
00:18:38.000 We're all people.
00:18:39.000 Hey, listen, if you're watching this on YouTube, we are gonna leave you now because we're gonna speak freely on behalf of the people to the people.
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00:18:49.000 We got John Rich coming up with some wonderful...
00:18:53.000 Oratory on the subject of Christianity.
00:18:56.000 We'll be talking more about the highlights such as they are of Kamala's speech last night and what it means when we are fully immersed in a total 360 spectacle.
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00:20:47.000 It continues.
00:20:48.000 Only be written in the greatest nation on Earth.
00:20:55.000 I accept your nomination to be President of the United States.
00:21:01.000 This bit here is a favoured moment of mine because of the necessary pledge to end division,
00:21:10.000 to unify, to acknowledge that if you're going to have a United States, it has to be governed
00:21:15.000 for everyone and the fissures that have been rendered over decades past must be healed.
00:21:22.000 The fissures and cataclysms caused, why let's pick an example, by the 2008 financial crash,
00:21:30.000 the foreclosure, the elevation of the banks, the failure to prosecute a single person responsible
00:21:36.000 for that seismic and still traumatic event.
00:21:40.000 If people are to be healed, if people are to be brought back, if people are to again live together with pride in the way that keeps being referenced, then you're going to have to conciliate and find reconciliation.
00:21:53.000 And for a moment, it seems like that's the intention, but we're pretty soon back into familiar territory.
00:22:00.000 Our nation, with this election, has a precious, fleeting opportunity to move past the bitterness, cynicism, and divisive battles of the past, a chance to chart a new way forward.
00:22:20.000 Not them armed lunatics on Jan 6th though, not the basket of deplorables, an idea that can't ever be shaken from the collective consciousness of the global establishment movement.
00:22:34.000 This post was an interesting highlight over the course of the evening.
00:22:38.000 Trump does a good one-liner on his own platform.
00:22:41.000 Is she talking about me?
00:22:42.000 He seemed to suspect that that's the way that it would ultimately end up going.
00:22:48.000 Now, It may already be the case that Bobby Kennedy has endorsed Donald Trump.
00:22:54.000 What's curious about it is to know that part of the reason that his campaign has faltered is because of the lawfare engaged in by, in particular, the Democratic Party machinery.
00:23:07.000 Nicole Shanahan was explicit in saying that, you know, say what you will about the MAGA movement or the Republican Party.
00:23:13.000 It's the Democrats in particular that have fought in nefarious, peculiar, legislative and insidious ways to keep RFK off the ballot.
00:23:25.000 And yet the right to vote Bearing in mind this is a person who has not received any votes, is still continually enshrined and celebrated in this, what many are saying is a masterclass in platitudes, Kamala's ongoing address.
00:23:42.000 And the freedom that unlocks all the others the freedom to vote.
00:23:50.000 With this election, we finally have the opportunity to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act and the Freedom to Vote Act.
00:24:02.000 You could do it now!
00:24:03.000 You could do it now!
00:24:04.000 You're literally in government right now!
00:24:06.000 Do it!
00:24:06.000 Press the button!
00:24:07.000 Do it!
00:24:08.000 Now we move into from the kind of merely hollow into the directly hypocritical with talk of economic opportunity that may not tally with some of the more odd price gouging measures that have already been touted.
00:24:27.000 We will create what I call an opportunity economy.
00:24:31.000 An opportunity economy where everyone has the chance to compete and a chance to succeed.
00:24:44.000 You live in a rural area, small town, or big city.
00:24:49.000 And as president, I will bring together labor, and workers, and small business owners, and entrepreneurs, and American companies.
00:25:00.000 To create jobs, to grow our economy, and to lower the cost of everyday needs like health care and housing and groceries.
00:25:10.000 We will provide access to capital for small businesses.
00:25:15.000 Sounds good and that would be nice, but with a policy and scenario that we can track in real time, it seems that there hasn't been the execution of expertise alluded to here.
00:25:28.000 So these pledges also might be hollow, because what exactly is going on at that border?
00:25:34.000 Were you a border czar?
00:25:36.000 Were you not a border czar?
00:25:38.000 After decades in law enforcement, I know the importance of safety and security, especially at our border.
00:25:47.000 What?
00:25:48.000 Wait a minute, how do you know that?
00:25:49.000 Is this sarcasm?
00:25:51.000 I fought against the cartels who traffic in guns and drugs and human beings.
00:25:58.000 Who threaten the security of our border and the safety of our communities.
00:26:03.000 So you were a Border Czar?
00:26:06.000 I'm still not clear on this Border Czar policy and another thing I suppose that we should be alert to is that the world does indeed seem to be in a fragile state.
00:26:17.000 I think all of us have economic fears and all of us have serious concerns about the
00:26:24.000 direction of geopolitical matters between Ukraine and Russia, NATO augmented and orchestrated
00:26:31.000 events such as that.
00:26:33.000 We are all, in spite of Kamala's reference to it and her assurance that Joe Biden is
00:26:38.000 working on Middle Eastern peace, have deep concerns, grave fears and dread about the
00:26:43.000 ongoing horrors taking place in that region.
00:26:48.000 And when we are still not clear about the origin of that conflict, What brought Russia to the precipice of war and indeed the comparisons that could be made to previous American interventions under various Democrat presidents is not clear at all how this person who is in government right now will bring peace in the Middle East or between Ukraine and Russia.
00:27:13.000 Especially if you're blaming Trump who, for his evident flaws, did not start any new wars for the four years that he's in office.
00:27:22.000 So however dangerous Obama might claim that he is, however dangerous Kamala might claim that he will be, we have to remember he didn't start any new wars and he was in office for four years.
00:27:33.000 But hey, he's got to carry the can for Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
00:27:37.000 Trump, on the other hand, We've got 70 days until the election.
00:27:51.000 We will of course be covering all of it.
00:27:54.000 The debates, the announcements, the convictions and the lack of conviction will all be covered.
00:28:00.000 It could already be a very different dynamic Contingent, of course, on Bobby Kennedy's presumed endorsement of Trump and the likely connotations of that.
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00:28:58.000 What's up man?
00:28:59.000 Why don't you try being like a bit more intense and a bit more intense and Christian?
00:29:02.000 John Rich right now. See you in a bit. Stay free.
00:29:05.000 What's up, man? Why don't you try being like a bit more intense and a bit more intense
00:29:11.000 and Christian? I'll try harder. Yeah, you're too relaxed.
00:29:18.000 There's not enough, there's not enough images of you sort of staring dead ahead like that.
00:29:26.000 And my favourite bit was like, I told you enough with my mate, where we sang to Jordan Peterson.
00:29:31.000 You know, well make the commitment right now!
00:29:33.000 Make the commitment right now!
00:29:34.000 Well no, I did it a couple of days ago.
00:29:36.000 It's not good!
00:29:38.000 I've never seen that.
00:29:40.000 We were watching it, and we were saying like, um, in that bit, thanks Gareth, but Jordan Peterson is thinking, um, Jordan Peterson is thinking, I'm never having that guy on my show again!
00:29:51.000 Probably not.
00:29:52.000 But listen, I can't tell where he's at.
00:29:54.000 He's so cryptic about what he thinks and where he's at.
00:29:58.000 I'm like, enough already.
00:30:00.000 This is kind of an important subject, man.
00:30:02.000 Where are you at?
00:30:03.000 You know?
00:30:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I wasn't trying to be combative with him.
00:30:08.000 I was just, I wanted to know.
00:30:10.000 Millions of people, I think, want to know, where is this man really at?
00:30:13.000 Yeah, I mean, I loved that.
00:30:15.000 I loved it because I thought, yeah, I love Jordan Peterson.
00:30:18.000 I messaged him as well because I thought, as soon as I sent you that message saying, hey, I like their confrontation with JP, I thought I'd message him as well because I didn't want it to feel like I was doing it in a kind of, you know, without being direct.
00:30:30.000 But yeah, people, it's weird, like for me, I was just speaking with my pastor a moment ago, and he says that when you are a well-known person and you kind of come out as Christian, you're under a lot of, you're under pressure.
00:30:43.000 Like the Christian community is going to embrace you, even if you're a person like me, with like a background that's, you know, like anyone, full of sin and failure and error and mistakes and messing up.
00:30:55.000 Like, it's full of contingency for that.
00:30:58.000 It's full of the proclamation of the kingdom of heaven that calls sinners.
00:31:03.000 And like, I mean, the whole thing is sort of set up in such a beautiful way.
00:31:07.000 And Jordan Peterson has been an important voice because like, as you said in that conversation, he is so intelligent.
00:31:14.000 But, and I'm reading his book at the moment, which is amazing, you know, like We That Wrestle With God.
00:31:20.000 I'm having a look at sort of a copy of that, and like he's got such a masterful understanding of archetypes and psychology, but Christianity is a sort of a different thing, isn't it?
00:31:29.000 Like, you know, when you, John, what excites me about your approach to the faith is you're like, Every word in this book is real.
00:31:37.000 It's true.
00:31:38.000 Surrender to it.
00:31:39.000 Can you tell me how you arrived at that?
00:31:41.000 Did you grow up with that?
00:31:43.000 Did this come to you in adult life?
00:31:44.000 And how have you got this confidence and zeal in your faith?
00:31:50.000 Well, every word in that book is true, and I think that's what flips people out, because they want to believe the parts of it that agree with them.
00:31:59.000 They want to go, that part's true, I follow that.
00:32:02.000 But then if there's something in the Bible that they don't agree with, or it convicts them, which are major sections of it, they want to leave all that part out.
00:32:11.000 They want to rip those pages out and throw them away.
00:32:13.000 They don't want that part.
00:32:14.000 Well, it's either all true, or it's all a lie.
00:32:16.000 I mean, there's no middle ground with that.
00:32:19.000 So yeah, I grew up, my dad started preaching at about 19 years old, so he was a kid.
00:32:26.000 And instead of going into big churches and stuff, my dad preached in prisons, a lot of prisons, and then he would go out in the streets and preach.
00:32:36.000 So, you know, here in America we have Mardi Gras.
00:32:37.000 I'm sure you guys know about Mardi Gras down in New Orleans every year.
00:32:41.000 It's probably the wildest party of the year in the United States.
00:32:44.000 My dad went to 34 Mardi Gras.
00:32:47.000 So 34 years my dad went down there and stood on the French Quarter and he sings and plays guitar too.
00:32:52.000 So he's with a guitar around his neck, singing.
00:32:55.000 And then with this little speaker next to him, and then he would start witnessing to people and preaching.
00:33:01.000 And this is with all the parades going by.
00:33:04.000 I mean, people ridiculing him like you can't believe, but he kept doing it.
00:33:08.000 And I asked him, you know, in the last few years, why did you keep doing it?
00:33:12.000 I mean, those people absolutely hated the fact that you were there.
00:33:15.000 He said because about one out of a hundred of them would stop and ask me what I was talking about.
00:33:21.000 And then I had an opportunity to tell them, you know, preach the gospel to them.
00:33:24.000 And so he kept doing it for 34 years.
00:33:26.000 So, Russell, I come from people like that.
00:33:29.000 So when you know it's 100% real, all the psychological analysis, all the academia, all the trying to spin it or understand it from a historical standpoint.
00:33:41.000 I mean, I've heard it done a hundred ways, just like you have.
00:33:44.000 None of that means anything.
00:33:46.000 It doesn't mean anything at the end of the day because when you die, which is what I was talking to Jordan Peterson about, I said, Doctor, when you die, your academia, your psychological analysis, your intellect, all the things that you have at your disposal here aren't going to mean anything to him.
00:34:03.000 Nothing.
00:34:03.000 He said the only thing that's going to mean something to him is if he looks at you and he doesn't see you, he sees Jesus Christ.
00:34:09.000 He sees his own son.
00:34:11.000 And if he sees his own son and you, come on in.
00:34:15.000 Come on in.
00:34:15.000 We got a spot for you, you know, right over here.
00:34:18.000 So it is as simple as that.
00:34:19.000 And I think people Go way out of their way to try to complicate that process, and it's not a complicated process.
00:34:26.000 As you've recently learned, it's one of the most simple things in the world.
00:34:29.000 It's just quite a challenge for especially alpha people, an alpha male or an alpha female, people with a lot of power and maybe a lot of money.
00:34:39.000 It's really tough for them.
00:34:41.000 To yield and turn their will over to anything or anyone, including Jesus Christ.
00:34:47.000 They don't want to have to do that.
00:34:48.000 That's where the scripture that says it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
00:34:57.000 That's not saying rich people can't go to heaven or rich people are inherently bad.
00:35:01.000 It's saying that people that have a lot in this world It's the toughest situation for them to give it up.
00:35:08.000 A guy who's poor, a guy who's on his last leg, it's really easy for him to give up because he doesn't have much to give up.
00:35:15.000 But the more you have, the tougher it is.
00:35:16.000 And I think that's where a lot of people are.
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00:36:30.000 You cited that bit of the scripture in your conversation, like, you know, those that say, Lord, Lord, but when you get here, I'll say, I never knew you.
00:36:38.000 You didn't know me when you were on Earth.
00:36:39.000 You know, obviously, I'm paraphrasing.
00:36:41.000 Forgive me.
00:36:41.000 But, like, I question myself on that basis.
00:36:45.000 I'll give you an example, John.
00:36:47.000 You know, I've come to faith recently and almost inadvertently.
00:36:50.000 It weren't deliberate, it just came upon me.
00:36:51.000 And a friend of mine said, you know, like, I'm coming round, let's do a baptism.
00:36:55.000 I'd started reading things, probably in some ways a pretty typical journey, albeit a late one.
00:36:59.000 I'm reading a bit of Pastor Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Life.
00:37:03.000 I'm encountering Christians.
00:37:06.000 But above all else, it's the figure of Christ.
00:37:09.000 If you come from a country like yours or mine, Jesus Christ is everywhere.
00:37:13.000 He's, you know, he's at the schools.
00:37:14.000 He's all over Christmastime.
00:37:16.000 So present it's sort of impossible to tune him out and ignore him.
00:37:20.000 And to your point about alpha people, one of the things that's been most important is the aspect of Christ that is a man.
00:37:29.000 God as man.
00:37:30.000 The creator of the simulation comes inside the simulation to tell you how to live in the simulation.
00:37:37.000 And like for me as a person with my type of lack of trust in authority and unwillingness to surrender, You know, unless I'm forced to.
00:37:47.000 I mean, you think of the military word, surrender.
00:37:49.000 You know, if someone tries to impose authority on me, unless I am afraid that I can't resist their authority, either I'm intimidated by them physically or they're backed up by something that I think, oh my god, what can I do about that?
00:38:02.000 You know, I don't want to surrender.
00:38:04.000 I'd rather fight it.
00:38:05.000 And then the idea that I, you know, that I'm kneeling before a man.
00:38:09.000 In my prayers lately, you know, for the beginning part, the very beginning part of my Christianity, I always felt myself kneeling at the foot of his cross.
00:38:18.000 Now I feel myself kneeling at the foot of his throne, kneeling at his feet while he is enthroned.
00:38:25.000 And I remember when we met, as we did, at the giddy, extraordinary and bizarre carnival that is the Republican National Convention.
00:38:33.000 What a trip!
00:38:34.000 That is, I remember, like, you know, you with your characteristic intensity just staring across and through a room.
00:38:44.000 The aspect or the passage or idea, at least in scripture, you alluded to is that of slavery.
00:38:51.000 And bondage.
00:38:53.000 And there's points where I find that idea sort of comforting, and there's times where I reject it.
00:38:57.000 And last night when I woke up in the middle of the night, and I felt fraught, and I felt afraid, and I felt angry, and frustrated, and I felt lost, and I'm trying to find and say Jesus' name, but I can tell that I'm reliant on my own will, I wonder, You know, I don't want to be one of them that says, Lord, Lord, but when I reach the afterlife, it's like I never knew him.
00:39:17.000 I want to accept the bondage and slavery, but I do find it hard to surrender.
00:39:24.000 I do find it hard.
00:39:25.000 Like, it's almost like, oh, this is a situation for Christianity.
00:39:28.000 You know, if someone I love is going to die or if, you know, I'm in a crisis.
00:39:32.000 But when it comes to the everyday handling of interactions with other humans, well, I'll take the reins again, Lord.
00:39:38.000 I'll handle it from here.
00:39:40.000 And I wonder if someone as familiar and educated in the faith as yourself, John, if you still have that dilemma, if you still feel your own ego, or your own vanity, or your own will, or your own resistance, and what that's like for you.
00:39:53.000 Well, of course.
00:39:55.000 I mean, that's the human condition.
00:39:56.000 That never ends.
00:39:57.000 Ever.
00:39:58.000 I mean, you're in a perpetual state of sin all the time.
00:40:02.000 You know, the definition of sin is anything less than perfection.
00:40:07.000 And who's the only perfect man that ever walked?
00:40:10.000 Jesus Christ.
00:40:10.000 Well, you're never going to be Him.
00:40:11.000 You're always going to be less than that.
00:40:13.000 So you're in a constant state of sin.
00:40:15.000 You know, it goes to the point that a lot of people have convinced themselves that, well, I can just be a good person.
00:40:23.000 If I can just do enough good things in this world, if I can just give enough money to charity, or I can go to church enough, or I can take care of sick people, whatever it is, they think that that is going to add up to basically like a resume that when they die, when their body dies and their spirit takes off, they'll have that resume in their hand.
00:40:44.000 And when they meet God Almighty in the flesh, they can say, here's my resume.
00:40:48.000 It's pretty good, right?
00:40:49.000 Let me in.
00:40:50.000 And that goes counter to what lots of pastors say in the Bible.
00:40:54.000 One of the most clear ones says, all your righteousness is as filthy rags in the sight of God.
00:41:03.000 All of them.
00:41:04.000 There is no one righteous.
00:41:05.000 No, not one.
00:41:06.000 There is no such thing as an inherently righteous human being or a good human being.
00:41:12.000 The only thing good about you It's Him coming in.
00:41:16.000 And so for us, you're right, Russell.
00:41:18.000 You're constantly going to be bucking that, because that's the human condition.
00:41:22.000 Constantly.
00:41:23.000 That's why in another spot in the Bible, it says, Pray without ceasing, for this is the will of God.
00:41:29.000 Pray without ceasing, meaning never stop.
00:41:32.000 It doesn't mean you're on your knees by your bed 24-7.
00:41:35.000 It means in your mind you're in a constant state of trying to stay connected, connected, connected.
00:41:41.000 You're open.
00:41:41.000 It's kind of like a Kind of like a CB radio, you know, the old school trucker radios.
00:41:46.000 And you just you turn that thing on and you leave it turned on.
00:41:49.000 You just leave it on full volume and you hear white noise most of the time.
00:41:54.000 But every now and then you'll hear somebody talk and a message will come in.
00:41:57.000 That's kind of that's kind of how I view that.
00:41:59.000 Pray without ceasing.
00:42:00.000 So no, man, I mean, you're in the boat that every other human human since Adam and Eve have been in.
00:42:06.000 And that's the constant that's the constant work we have to do.
00:42:10.000 John, when you describe Christianity as being like that, you know, like that everyone is falling short of the standards of Christ and therefore we're all sinning and our righteous deeds are as filthy rags, I see that aspect of Christianity that's often under attack.
00:42:27.000 I can see how people arrive at that deduction, at least, because it feels very punishing, you know.
00:42:32.000 And if you think of the culture of individualism that is prevailing Even if you could say in an extreme form, you might say that wokeness is it, the sort of making the self into a god and a deity, but even 1980s style individualism and egotism and like the sort of self-made man and the
00:42:52.000 The country music star or the movie star or whatever.
00:42:55.000 These are all self-infatuated ideologies that I think regard what sounds at least like a rather punitive aspect of Christianity as somewhat at odds with self-love or the benign side.
00:43:10.000 Another thing we touched upon, mate, when we were chatting, is that everyone likes the idea of Jesus Christ as saviour, but you said not everyone likes the idea of Jesus Christ as Lord.
00:43:21.000 Where though, in this, the version of Christianity that you've described, and I love what you're saying, that your consciousness has to be perfectly alloyed onto, glommed onto the presence of the Lord, otherwise you will drift back into selfishness, satanic, cut-off, self-centered, demonic consciousness, worshipping the individual, setting up the false idols and the false orders, worshipping all of a sudden Moloch and Baal become your gods all of a sudden.
00:43:49.000 But like, how do you introduce and feel the aspect of Christ that is love, pure, benign, and the aspect of the Trinity that is unending love, when so focused on the failings of any individual?
00:44:06.000 Well, I mean, it's a great question, but he's a 360.
00:44:11.000 He's all of it.
00:44:12.000 So, yeah, he's expecting you to hold to account.
00:44:15.000 He's going to hold you to account.
00:44:16.000 But on the other side, he's the most forgiving that's ever existed.
00:44:22.000 I mean, for goodness sake, he allowed his son to be tortured to death, beaten to death, and then murdered on a cross for committing no crime.
00:44:36.000 Bled completely out, every single drop of blood bled out.
00:44:40.000 Some people don't understand how brutal a crucifixion actually was.
00:44:44.000 I mean, that was the most torturous, brutal murder, brutal killing that they had invented at that point, crucifixion.
00:44:51.000 You know, the first thing they did to Jesus is they took a cat of nine tails, and a cat of nine tails with a Roman whip.
00:44:58.000 And it had nine strands coming out of it, and those leather strands were woven into it.
00:45:03.000 Glass, rocks, all kinds of things that would rip and tear.
00:45:08.000 And they'd take his cloak off, and they'd start slinging that whip against his back.
00:45:13.000 And every time they'd pull it out, it would pull out pieces of flesh off of his back.
00:45:18.000 And then they turn him around and then they whip the front side over and over and over till he was almost dead.
00:45:24.000 The Romans were really, really skilled at that because they could beat you almost to death.
00:45:29.000 Almost.
00:45:30.000 They knew when to stop when you were about to die.
00:45:32.000 And so they would stop and for him, then they said, okay, carry your cross where you're going to go up on a trash heap, Golgotha.
00:45:39.000 You're going to go up there.
00:45:40.000 This is where they threw all the trash and dead animals and whoever, whatever.
00:45:45.000 We're gonna go show you on a trashy, Jesus Christ, Son of God.
00:45:50.000 And then they murdered him up on a hill.
00:45:54.000 So, any God, any Son of God, Trinity, that loves you enough to do that, I promise loves you enough to forgive you of your daily shortcomings.
00:46:07.000 I mean, think about it!
00:46:09.000 And that's also what separates Jesus from any other, quote, deity that you would want to bring up.
00:46:16.000 You know, if you want to go into any other religion out there, no other religion, Has someone that literally died for you, that was allowed to be tortured on your behalf, and that is coming back again?
00:46:29.000 Nobody.
00:46:29.000 Nobody has that.
00:46:30.000 You know, a lot of people try to say, well, it could be Jesus, it could be Buddha, it could be this, that, or the other thing.
00:46:37.000 Yeah, show me one of those other ones that went through what Jesus Christ did and said, I am the Son of God, I'm God in the flesh.
00:46:44.000 Nobody else ever even made that claim.
00:46:47.000 And so, either Jesus is a liar, Or he's the truth.
00:46:51.000 There is no middle ground with that.
00:46:52.000 And if he's the truth, which he is, then what he said is also true.
00:46:57.000 And if what he said is true, that's where it comes down to us to go, OK, I've got to, as Jordan Peters would say, I've got to wrestle with this.
00:47:04.000 And that's a dangerous wrestling match because, God forbid, you get killed in a car accident.
00:47:10.000 God forbids you have a heart attack, or a stroke, or something happens you didn't account for, and you thought you had another 30 or 40 years, and boom!
00:47:17.000 You're gone, just like that.
00:47:19.000 It says to be absent from the flesh is to be present with God, meaning it is immediate.
00:47:25.000 It's like I told Dr. Peterson, I'll say it to you too, I'm looking at what Russell Brand lives in.
00:47:32.000 That's the encasement, the spirit of Russell Brand, the eternal part of Russell.
00:47:38.000 He just lives in that body with the beard on it and the British accent.
00:47:42.000 Someday, that's gonna die, and then the real Russell Brand is released, and the real Russell Brand is gonna be standing face-to-face with him.
00:47:50.000 And then the question is, what's he gonna see when you walk up there?
00:47:53.000 Your resume?
00:47:55.000 You gonna try to talk him into it?
00:47:57.000 What's he gonna see?
00:47:58.000 He better see Jesus Christ than you.
00:48:00.000 Anything short of that, and you don't get to be with him.
00:48:03.000 When we see how Christianity can be applied in culture, it can seem like... Say that right.
00:48:13.000 Christ is the truth.
00:48:14.000 What he says is the truth.
00:48:15.000 And you know that bit where he's like, you know, love God with all your heart and love thy neighbor as you love thyself.
00:48:21.000 Like, that's it.
00:48:22.000 That's what we're, you know, we're gonna boil down to that.
00:48:25.000 And I think that's the same bit where he tells that.
00:48:27.000 Young man, you might want to drop out all of your stuff and follow me, and the young man goes away sad because he knows he's still infatuated with the things of the world, and Lord alone knows I feel that sometimes.
00:48:38.000 But, do you feel that there are some things elsewhere in the Bible, you know, whether in the Gospels or the, uh, the letters or whatever, or even, you know, like, if Christ says his teaching can come down to love God with all your heart and love thy neighbor as you love yourself, how do we deal with some of the cultural stuff Within the Bible, which one might assume from an academic or analytical perspective, bears the marks of the culture from which it's from.
00:49:07.000 Perhaps an obvious example being around sex and sexuality.
00:49:11.000 If it says like the, you know, that it's licentiousness is sinful, to pursue sex for pleasure, to pursue sex with, to pay for sex is sinful, and of course, you know, Now, quite a few times I've seen the Bible, I didn't know it was in there as much as it was.
00:49:28.000 Sex between people of the same sex is sinful.
00:49:32.000 How are you going to play that out when, as you said, you see various attempts to repackage and repurpose the Bible?
00:49:40.000 Would you say, like, if you were looking to have a conversation that was somewhat conciliatory with gay people who, by the virtues of the scripture there, or by the, excuse me, by the letter of scripture, are in sin, that by the metric that they are judged, Basically, anyone who's having sex just for pleasure is sinning, and that sex is sacred, and that sex really only ought be happening, and I'm asking this because I don't understand it and I don't know the answer, that sex will only really be happening in a marriage, and really only to create kids, probably.
00:50:20.000 Like, the pleasure aspect of sex is in order that you have it, not in order to get the pleasure.
00:50:28.000 Like, or are you, or would you say that the Bible is explicitly saying different, like, you know, same-sex couples, that is specifically wrong, you're going to hell, there's no way out?
00:50:42.000 Because I feel like that, you know, that people are still struggling with that idea, and I, you know, when I think of that love thy neighbor as thy love thyself aspect, I feel like, you know, if Christ were here now, How would he be handling all of the issues around identity, sexuality, given that what he says is love, love, love?
00:51:03.000 Well, all the things you just mentioned existed back then, too.
00:51:07.000 I mean, the Roman Empire.
00:51:08.000 I mean, think about it.
00:51:10.000 I mean, there's nothing going on now that wasn't also going on then, other than we just have tech now.
00:51:15.000 But other than that, everything was going on then.
00:51:17.000 And so you have to look at, well, how did Jesus approach people?
00:51:21.000 Well, He loves sinners.
00:51:23.000 He died for sinners.
00:51:25.000 We're all sinners.
00:51:26.000 You know, it's not your sin is going to send you to a worse part of hell than my sin.
00:51:31.000 No, no.
00:51:32.000 Sin is sin is sin.
00:51:34.000 And we're all guilty of all kinds of things.
00:51:37.000 And so He went out to where the people were.
00:51:40.000 You know, he went and found where they were.
00:51:43.000 He stayed out of the church.
00:51:45.000 He didn't like the Sadducees and the Pharisees, which were the religious elite of his day, which, by the way, were the ones that also ultimately turned him in to the Roman Empire.
00:51:55.000 He was not interested in that.
00:51:57.000 He was interested in going out to where the people were.
00:52:00.000 And those people had all the same kind of problems that we have today.
00:52:03.000 You can look at the twelve disciples directly and find out that, man, these guys were I mean, these are some pretty raucous gentlemen out there.
00:52:13.000 They were doing all kinds of stuff.
00:52:14.000 Sailors.
00:52:15.000 You know, it says Peter and James and John, when they were sailing out fishing on the Sea of Galilee, they'd been drinking wine all day, you know, and they're day drinking and trying to catch fish.
00:52:25.000 And Jesus walks by and goes, come over here.
00:52:27.000 I'll make you fishers of men.
00:52:29.000 And they're like, what?
00:52:31.000 He goes, I'm Jesus.
00:52:32.000 I'm the Son of God.
00:52:33.000 Follow me and I'll make you fishers of men.
00:52:36.000 And they said, OK.
00:52:37.000 So he did not pick people That had some kind of perfect look about them because anybody that thinks that they're perfect or tries to act like they are, are the most hypocritical creatures in the world.
00:52:50.000 So he went after the ones that had all kinds of problems.
00:52:52.000 Matter of fact, the more fouled up they were, The more he went after them, the more he wanted them to understand the truth and come to the side of truth.
00:53:02.000 I've heard you talk in a recent interview, Russell, about Paul, who was Saul prior to that.
00:53:08.000 And so as he saw, he's working for the Roman Empire, and Saul's job was to hunt down Christians
00:53:16.000 and cut their heads off or set them on fire.
00:53:19.000 It's where the phrase Roman candle comes from.
00:53:21.000 They would put Christians down and tar and light them on fire
00:53:26.000 and they'd look like a candle burning.
00:53:28.000 This was Saul's entire job, and he was very good at it.
00:53:31.000 They sent him out to round them up.
00:53:32.000 And then on the road to Damascus, Saul gets hit with, I don't know if it was a bolt of lightning or what it was,
00:53:39.000 but something big happened to him, and he was blinded for a few days.
00:53:43.000 And in his blindness and his stunned nature at that point, he realized that God is actually real.
00:53:51.000 He realized He's real.
00:53:53.000 And upon that realization, he realized, I've been killing his people.
00:53:57.000 I've been killing his kids this whole time.
00:54:00.000 And so when he finally got back up on his feet, he did a complete turn.
00:54:03.000 He went from Saul to Paul, and then he started writing, and he wrote half of the New Testament.
00:54:09.000 So to answer your question, people that are involved in whatever kind of sin they're involved in, the way Jesus went after them was, number one, He did show love to them.
00:54:19.000 He showed them that he cared about them.
00:54:22.000 And at the same time, he told them the truth about what it was that they were doing and what the stakes were, what their eternity was going to be like if they stayed on that path and never turned to him.
00:54:32.000 So it was both.
00:54:34.000 It was he loved them, but he also told them the truth.
00:54:37.000 And I think any more you have maybe The majority of both sides of the table, it's either all love and no truth, or it's all truth and no love.
00:54:46.000 It's not both, and it's supposed to be both.
00:54:49.000 Oh yeah, I like that.
00:54:49.000 And I like what you said right early on, John, that there's not like a league table of sin.
00:54:57.000 You sinned!
00:54:58.000 That's it!
00:54:59.000 Like, so God is not like, them lot were doing homosexuality, they're going to a worse bit.
00:55:05.000 Them lot were greedy.
00:55:07.000 This guy was self-infatuated and self-centred.
00:55:10.000 This person tried to create his own power on earth the whole time.
00:55:14.000 You know, as a person like that, when I figured out the time when I was living licentiously as a promiscuous person, I'm beginning to understand now, because of some stuff I read in Paul, Corinthians actually, in fact, it was more when I heard it read out rather than read it.
00:55:26.000 I heard it in church, the bit where Paul goes, The pastor that did it, old Father Dave, he done it so lovingly, he goes, you know, do you not know that your body is a temple?
00:55:38.000 Do you not know?
00:55:39.000 I like the phrasing, so gentle, to say maybe you lot don't know this, but your body is a place where God can inhabit and you are seriously mistreating it.
00:55:50.000 And I feel like what I was doing was like trying to generate my own energy and my own power.
00:55:57.000 Like, sex is a sort of magical, powerful thing.
00:56:01.000 And when you have sexual attraction, when you are able to attract to a high-level mate, it feels very, very rewarding.
00:56:11.000 And also sort of psychotically unending, I would say.
00:56:15.000 You know, like, I know a lot about addiction, as in I've experienced a lot of different types of addiction.
00:56:20.000 And there's something about it, it just won't ever, kind of, you can't do anything about it.
00:56:24.000 You know, like, whether it's a chemical thing, where you could track why you're having to do it more, or a behavioural thing, where you can't see so obviously why you're having to do it more.
00:56:34.000 You do get the idea that you're descending down.
00:56:37.000 That you're descending down into something that is dark and unfulfillable.
00:56:42.000 And this idea that you're trying to generate your own energy, it seems important.
00:56:45.000 Now, given, like, that you're starting to exist, at least culturally, John, in somewhat political spaces, a slight pivot of interest to me is how, like, before I was Christian, when, like, say when in your country the Republican Party would have been George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and stuff, George W. was an explicit, uh, overt Christian, and, like, you know, there's that war that goes down in Iraq that, in retrospect, was a Double wrong war.
00:57:11.000 And then there's like now we have like a kind of, I would say that the globalist class, I would call them, that tend to find their seats of power within the structures of parties that are nominally of the left.
00:57:27.000 They are explicitly about rationalism, the individual, managerialism, technology, human power is the apex, we will solve all the problems through technology, we will solve all of the problems through people's ingenuity.
00:57:45.000 But the right, still in the figure of Donald Trump, has, you know, and I must say, over time I've become a lot more sympathetic to Trump.
00:57:52.000 One, because he's so funny and charismatic.
00:57:57.000 Two, because the people that hate him are, I think, examples of this bureaucratic class of globalists that I consider to be the real threat to democracy, rather than populists.
00:58:08.000 But nevertheless, I wonder, you know, you, I figure, you've praised Trump, And I wonder what you feel like he, what, like, you know, you've just said we all fall short.
00:58:20.000 But when Christianity is used within politics, i.e.
00:58:24.000 the Christian right, there would have been a point, John, where I'd have seen that as a contradiction in terms, like the Christianity and Christ are so much about love that how could that be a party that has historically been associated with war and still contemporarily are going to be a party of materialism that are not going to be a party that are like gonna govern like Jesus Christ would govern or will govern when he comes back not all meek and mild but double tooled up and powerful
00:58:54.000 I wonder how you feel that Christianity within politics, or probably perhaps any religion, but given that it's you, Christianity in politics, whether or not that sits right and is right, and what complexity comes from it?
00:59:09.000 Well, first of all, the Lord is not political.
00:59:13.000 He is not part of a political party, number one.
00:59:17.000 Number two, we just discussed some of the most Unlikely people ever that God picked to do some pretty incredible jobs.
00:59:26.000 David is another one, King David.
00:59:28.000 And you and I talked about that, how he went after Goliath.
00:59:30.000 And then David did all kinds of stuff that was terrible.
00:59:33.000 He took Bathsheba as his wife.
00:59:36.000 But the only way he was able to do that was he sent her husband, Uriah, who was a great soldier and a commander.
00:59:42.000 He would normally be in the back of the soldiers.
00:59:45.000 He sent him to the front lines to make sure he got killed in battle, so then he could take his wife.
00:59:50.000 I mean, that's pretty bad.
00:59:52.000 I mean, that's about as bad as it gets, honestly.
00:59:54.000 And then David paid a horrible price for that.
00:59:57.000 He was punished horribly for that, as he should have been, and then he repented and came back.
01:00:02.000 Listen, America, a lot of Americans, especially Christians in America, I think that America, because it was founded on Christian principles to a large extent, I mean, endowed by our Creator with a capital C, with certain unalienable rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
01:00:20.000 So, I mean, God was referenced all throughout our original writings.
01:00:25.000 But they have this misconception that because of that, America is immune from the wrath of God.
01:00:34.000 That he's never going to come after us because we're a Christian nation.
01:00:39.000 And the real answer to that, Russell, is he comes after Christian nations, or nations that claim that they serve and follow him.
01:00:48.000 He comes after them ten times harder than he comes after total pagan nations.
01:00:53.000 Ten times, a thousand times harder.
01:00:57.000 There's a very quoted verse, 2 Chronicles 7.14.
01:01:02.000 And I'm not going to be able to quote it all perfectly, but it says, if this is God talking, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and turn from their evil ways, I will come and I will heal their land.
01:01:16.000 That's a paraphrase.
01:01:17.000 But he doesn't say if the devil's people will, if the devil's people will stop being wicked, if the devil's people will turn from their wicked ways.
01:01:26.000 He's saying if my people, mine, my kids, So throughout the history of what we know of the Lord, which is, you know, He says, I'm the same yesterday, today, and forever.
01:01:38.000 My word does not change.
01:01:39.000 That means however He handled things back in the day is how He's going to handle them this very second.
01:01:45.000 Tell me what you think about America.
01:01:47.000 You just talked about all the wars that we've gotten into that were unsubstantiated.
01:01:54.000 And millions upon millions of human beings were killed in those wars.
01:01:58.000 And we were lied to by politicians who claim to be Christians and claim to be doing the work of God.
01:02:05.000 Yet they drag us into these wars and get millions of people killed.
01:02:09.000 And then you could keep going through a lot of these things that we've seen taking place in our country, in America.
01:02:15.000 And I have to think at some point, he is not going to put up with that forever.
01:02:19.000 He's just not.
01:02:21.000 I was talking to somebody last night about the election that's coming up.
01:02:25.000 And this was a Christian lady that was talking to me.
01:02:28.000 And she said, I believe God has put Donald Trump in that position to come in and straighten this thing out, you know, get us back on track.
01:02:38.000 And I said, well, just understand this.
01:02:43.000 If he wins, that's an act of God.
01:02:46.000 And if he loses, That is also an act of God.
01:02:50.000 In the scripture it says He puts kings into power and He takes kings out of power.
01:02:56.000 He puts in the pieces He wants to be put in to accomplish whatever it is He wants to accomplish.
01:03:02.000 Let's say He wanted to really bring the wrath down on the United States of America.
01:03:05.000 Would He do that by letting Donald Trump be president or by letting Harris or somebody else be president?
01:03:12.000 That's a good question.
01:03:14.000 See, Christians don't want to see both sides of that, like we talked about earlier.
01:03:18.000 They think it's only the good, only the stuff that serves me well is what comes from the Lord.
01:03:22.000 That's just not true.
01:03:24.000 He has put his people through all kinds of situations when they've rebelled and they refuse to turn back around.
01:03:31.000 They refuse to repent.
01:03:32.000 As it says, they step in their neck.
01:03:34.000 He's trying to pull you and you're going, no, no, I'm not going there.
01:03:37.000 And you do that long enough, he'll go, okay, boom.
01:03:40.000 And then whatever he does, he does.
01:03:42.000 And the point of that is, It's punishment just like a father would punish a son.
01:03:47.000 You do that so the son hopefully learns to turn and stop doing what he was doing because it might have been something dangerous he was doing.
01:03:54.000 He needs correction.
01:03:56.000 If he's not going to listen, then you're going to have to take action.
01:03:59.000 That's the same way the Lord works, too.
01:04:01.000 I'm glad you asked me that because most Christians never go there.
01:04:04.000 They only want to talk about, well, if the thing that I think should happen doesn't happen, then that was the devil doing that.
01:04:12.000 The devil has no authority.
01:04:14.000 None.
01:04:15.000 The scripture that says every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord at the end when it's all said and done, that means the devil too.
01:04:25.000 He will bow.
01:04:26.000 His knee will hit the ground.
01:04:27.000 His face will go in the dirt.
01:04:29.000 He has no authority at all.
01:04:33.000 This is a big misconception.
01:04:34.000 It's throughout the churches, Russell, that the preachers preach like this.
01:04:38.000 They leave out all the other stuff because it makes people uncomfortable.
01:04:41.000 And then they maybe don't come back to church.
01:04:43.000 And then maybe they don't put money in the offering at the church.
01:04:47.000 That's why, to me, you know, massive religion and massive sects of religion out there, nowhere in the Bible is that ever talked about.
01:04:55.000 Jesus actually said, do not build temples in my name.
01:04:58.000 Do not do it.
01:05:00.000 Meet in your houses.
01:05:01.000 Meet two or three at a time.
01:05:03.000 Come to me one-on-one.
01:05:04.000 Do not build temples.
01:05:05.000 That's not saying going to church is a bad thing.
01:05:08.000 But if you feel like church is the reason that you're okay with God, that's false.
01:05:14.000 That's false.
01:05:15.000 And a lot of preachers, priests, and all kinds of other religions make human beings think, if you don't come to me, you can't get to Him.
01:05:25.000 That's a lie.
01:05:27.000 There's a lot to think about, huh?
01:05:29.000 There's a lot to think about there, John Rich.
01:05:31.000 I feel like I recognize what you're saying about the stiffening of the neck and how much resistance I have had to yield in to Christianity, accepting Christ, surrendering.
01:05:45.000 It's been very difficult and as a result of suffering and trauma and being broken, broken like a vase, but also broken like a beast of burden.
01:05:57.000 I also like what you say about that nothing happens but by his will, that even if something is conceived by Satan, it'll be used for his will, if he allows it to happen.
01:06:10.000 So even though there's, I experience some dark stuff, you know, but I can feel how I'm being shaped, fashioned, Guided.
01:06:18.000 Directed by it.
01:06:20.000 I love what you said, too, about, like, almost what you might regard as quite anarchist principles there, espoused by Christ.
01:06:28.000 I mean, anarchist in the positive sense of the word, even though the word anarchist is dangerously close to antichrist!
01:06:35.000 Like, that he didn't want centralized power.
01:06:39.000 He didn't want hierarchies, you know, meeting each other's houses, meeting groups of two
01:06:45.000 person free.
01:06:46.000 I was like, when he said that, I was thinking about like the book of Acts and I was thinking
01:06:51.000 about the letters that I'm reading and how you really get the sense.
01:06:55.000 I'm glad I read it early in my still new journey into Christianity and got the sense of, oh
01:07:02.000 wow, in the beginning, people are like, oh my God, Jesus, it's real.
01:07:06.000 He came.
01:07:07.000 I saw him.
01:07:08.000 We were together for 50 days.
01:07:10.000 We went in the tomb, you know, and like someone pointed me out to me recently that the letters
01:07:15.000 of Paul are the first Christian documents.
01:07:17.000 So like the people that he's chatting with haven't.
01:07:21.000 Unless they're getting it by another means, orally, which I suppose of course is totally possible, maybe even likely.
01:07:26.000 They're not hearing about the rock being rolled back and the bandages being cast aside and Mary being in the tomb.
01:07:32.000 They're not hearing about doubting Thomas.
01:07:35.000 They're not hearing about all of that, you know.
01:07:38.000 Or even, you know, the Pentecost.
01:07:41.000 But all of that stuff, the Paul stuff, I always thought before... I'm one of them people that thought I knew what was in the Bible without reading it.
01:07:47.000 Like that's... I totally would have thought... Yeah, I get the idea.
01:07:51.000 And I sort of had the sense that Paul was kind of taking the message of Christ and making it into something that could be used as a method of social control.
01:08:03.000 I didn't realise that Paul was out there on trial, jailbreaking, travelling around, getting shipwrecked.
01:08:10.000 Like, going through what sounds like a lot of hell, having to work for a living to carry the message, and it's this version of Christianity, this early Christianity, that probably a lot of newly converted Christians find exciting, because that idea, you know, and this is coming off the back of what you just said then, is that, like, presumably in the same way as you're saying there's no classification or categorization when it comes to sin, there's just, you are either inviting Jesus Christ in through personal relationship or you are not, Same with politics.
01:08:41.000 It's not like Jesus- that God would go, I'm well down with Donald Trump, or I'm well down with Bobby Kennedy, or I'm well down with Kamala Harris.
01:08:50.000 It's just like, this is beyond that.
01:08:52.000 We're talking about an aspatial, atemporal, total creator, holy trinity.
01:08:58.000 And I wonder, therefore, if what- At a time like ours, John, I don't know that it's unique, because you said before all the things that are going on nowadays was going on in the Bible, except without tech.
01:09:08.000 Although you've got to say, haven't you, mate, that tech does supercharge and it does speed stuff up.
01:09:14.000 I wonder...
01:09:15.000 If this idea of a new Christianity where people are hanging out in groups of twos and threes, are looking at themselves as Christian above all else, not Republican or Democrat, not black or white, and like in Paul, you know, it ain't about the circumcised no more.
01:09:34.000 It's about, oh, everyone is welcome.
01:09:35.000 That is the beauty of this religion.
01:09:37.000 Get involved, get involved and start identifying with Christ before and above all else that we may be saved individually.
01:09:44.000 Although I will just tag one of the things I keep seeing is nowhere in here does Jesus say, get out there and take over the government and take over the planet.
01:09:53.000 He's going to do that.
01:09:54.000 And I keep thinking that somehow I'm supposed to be participating in revolutions.
01:09:59.000 I know that I said a lot there.
01:10:00.000 I just wondered what your thoughts are.
01:10:04.000 Yeah, I mean, he doesn't say that.
01:10:06.000 No, you're exactly right.
01:10:09.000 You know, the thing about accepting Jesus Christ and really doing it, like really turning yourself over to Him for real, is that once a person actually does that for real, all the things that they had been doing prior to that moment happening, all of a sudden start to become pushed out they become they can't coexist with him like he's inside of you so all these things you used to do all the time now you don't even want to do those things anymore he changes your mindset where you don't even want to it's almost there's a repulsion of it it's like this there's no space for that anymore because he filled up all that space a lot of people i'd say most people me included
01:10:54.000 You know, when you go out in your life and you're messing up big time and you're chasing whatever vice that is, like you said, drugs, alcohol, money, sex, whatever it might be, people are looking to do those things to fill a void that they've got, and they're never able to fully fill it.
01:11:11.000 That's why they have to constantly get more and more and more, and it's never filled.
01:11:16.000 And when they give their life to Jesus, He comes in, and all the voids that you had are now completely filled.
01:11:21.000 Completely.
01:11:22.000 It's like light in a dark room.
01:11:24.000 You know, you can walk in the darkest room in the world, and you light a candle, or you turn on a light.
01:11:28.000 The whole room is full of light.
01:11:31.000 Not just the part where you turn the light on.
01:11:33.000 It washes through all of it.
01:11:34.000 The darkness just goes, boom!
01:11:36.000 It's just gone.
01:11:37.000 And so, I think that is the thing to keep in mind, that people can't say, I'm a real Christian.
01:11:45.000 I gave my life to Jesus Christ, and I am still living this lifestyle.
01:11:51.000 Because the two, they're incompatible.
01:11:55.000 They cannot coexist like that.
01:11:57.000 So it's not that this judgment is coming down and you're saying, okay, now that you're with me, if you don't stop doing this, bang, bang.
01:12:05.000 It's that when he really comes in, you won't even want to anymore.
01:12:08.000 You know, you mentioned tech.
01:12:10.000 You're exactly right.
01:12:11.000 I think why we have seen the turbocharged culture that we're in right now towards evil is because of that.
01:12:23.000 It's because of tech.
01:12:24.000 And when you read the book of Revelation, for instance, You know, that's about Jesus coming back.
01:12:29.000 It's about what's going to happen before He comes back, and what's going to happen after He comes back.
01:12:34.000 It lays it all out, written by the Apostle John 2,000 years ago on the Isle of Patmos.
01:12:41.000 John was actually, he was a prisoner at that point.
01:12:44.000 He'd been exiled, and he wrote the book of Revelation.
01:12:46.000 But throughout the last couple of thousand years, Theologians, preachers, regular people like us would read Revelation and could not make heads or tails as to how this stuff was even possible.
01:12:57.000 It sounded like science fiction.
01:12:59.000 Like, how is this possible?
01:13:00.000 For instance, one of them is the mark of the beast.
01:13:03.000 It says you won't be able to buy or sell unless you have the mark of the beast, or the mark of the system.
01:13:09.000 That's in place at that point.
01:13:10.000 And nobody could ever understand, well, how in the world can you track everybody in the world and know how they spend their money and stop them from spending their money?
01:13:18.000 How is that even possible?
01:13:19.000 And then today in 24, we know about central bank digital currency.
01:13:23.000 We know about globalism.
01:13:25.000 We know about all these nations coming together that would love to just stranglehold the human population.
01:13:31.000 So here we are, 2024.
01:13:32.000 And I think today the reason you're seeing a lot of people starting to wake up and pick the book up and start to read it and start to open up is because they can feel that these things are now happening.
01:13:46.000 This is a new era, 2024 and beyond.
01:13:49.000 It's a new era.
01:13:50.000 It's probably part of what got you to wake up, that you're seeing all these things going, what am I really looking at?
01:13:55.000 Because a lot of what you're seeing just defies logic altogether.
01:13:59.000 And it seems so outside that it doesn't even seem human based.
01:14:02.000 It seems like spiritual warfare, which is exactly what it is.
01:14:06.000 It's good versus evil.
01:14:07.000 It's righteousness versus wickedness.
01:14:09.000 That brings us to where we are today, man.
01:14:11.000 And unfortunately, pain is a great alarm clock.
01:14:17.000 And so is fear.
01:14:19.000 Both of those things wake people up.
01:14:21.000 They always have, they always will.
01:14:23.000 And we're going through a lot of pain and fear right now in our country and around the world.
01:14:27.000 And I think that's why you're seeing people start to turn back to the truth.
01:14:30.000 Yeah, pain and fear gave me a jolt in this spiritual battle.
01:14:33.000 Let's have a quick look at Revelation, your song.
01:14:36.000 We've got a clip from your video, John, that I want to check out.
01:14:39.000 I watched it a couple of times.
01:14:40.000 I love it.
01:14:40.000 Check this out everyone.
01:14:42.000 I'm out.
01:15:02.000 Bowed at the altar of the father of lies.
01:15:07.000 There's a number to their days, and all their evil ways.
01:15:11.000 The Lord's gonna turn away from all their cries.
01:15:16.000 Oh, revelation I can feel it coming like the docks ain't running
01:15:25.000 Oh, get ready Cause the king is coming
01:15:32.000 The king is coming back again Brimstone upon their heads
01:15:42.000 Millstones around their necks They'll feel the shaking when the trumpet sounds.
01:15:50.000 And no matter where they hide, there'll be nowhere to run.
01:15:55.000 When Jesus puts his mighty foot on the ground.
01:16:00.000 Oh, revelation.
01:16:04.000 I can feel it coming like a dark train running.
01:16:09.000 Oh, get ready, because the King is coming.
01:16:16.000 The King is coming back again.
01:16:24.000 John reached out with revelation.
01:16:27.000 What we're seeing is a showdown between that archangel Michael
01:16:31.000 and of the forces of darkness, Satan, El Diablo, the father of lies, the necromancer himself.
01:16:39.000 Having a showdown there, John.
01:16:41.000 Yeah, that's it.
01:16:42.000 That's it.
01:16:43.000 You know, in the Book of Revelation, it talks all about that.
01:16:46.000 It says, we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers and the rulers of spiritual darkness of this earth.
01:16:53.000 That's really what the battle and the war is.
01:16:56.000 And the more we see going on in the world, at least For me, because I know what's really up, you can almost see it.
01:17:03.000 I mean, you can see people who are controlled by one or the other.
01:17:06.000 You can really see it.
01:17:07.000 It's clear as a bell.
01:17:09.000 And so I thought, man, I don't know what people are going to think about this song or about that video, but it hit me like a ton of bricks last fall.
01:17:18.000 I was here at the house in Nashville, and all of a sudden it just washed over me, this chorus that you just played.
01:17:24.000 And I was like, what is that?
01:17:27.000 What am I hearing right now?
01:17:28.000 It's like in my head.
01:17:29.000 I grabbed a pencil and a piece of paper and an old guitar and I started writing it down.
01:17:34.000 Wrote it in about an hour.
01:17:35.000 And then I kind of looked out my window and I'm like, what do you want me to do with this?
01:17:40.000 I mean, I'm a country singer.
01:17:42.000 I put out popular songs.
01:17:44.000 What do you want me to do with this song?
01:17:47.000 And the answer back was, take it all the way to the mat.
01:17:50.000 Take it as far as you can possibly take it.
01:17:52.000 Make the audio as good as you can.
01:17:53.000 Make a video that people have to look at.
01:17:56.000 Make it that good.
01:17:57.000 And then tell everybody about it.
01:17:59.000 Anybody that will listen, show it to them.
01:18:01.000 And so that's what I did.
01:18:02.000 Russell, it's been incredible, the responses that have come from this.
01:18:07.000 So many people, millions of people now, have I've seen this video, have commented, whether it's social media, Rumble, YouTube, other places, and said, I just picked up the Bible for the first time in 15 years, and I'm now reading it.
01:18:22.000 And I went, bingo!
01:18:24.000 That was the point.
01:18:25.000 To get people to wake up and realize, this is way bigger than politics, this is way bigger than left and right, way bigger than culture.
01:18:32.000 This is the ultimate that's going on right now.
01:18:34.000 And to my point earlier, I think with the advent of tech and all the things that have happened, we don't know when this is all going to take place, but it's now possible for these things to take place.
01:18:44.000 Those prophecies are not just in Revelation.
01:18:48.000 They're in Daniel.
01:18:49.000 Daniel talked about it 500 years before Jesus was around.
01:18:53.000 He was talking about the whole thing.
01:18:54.000 2 Thessalonians, 1 Corinthians, Paul was talking about it.
01:18:59.000 It's throughout the Bible, what it's going to be like in the end times.
01:19:03.000 So thanks for showing a piece of that video, man.
01:19:05.000 I still get a grin on my face when I see Michael come down.
01:19:08.000 Boom!
01:19:09.000 And I know your buddy's got Michael on his arm, right?
01:19:11.000 He's got the tattoo.
01:19:12.000 Yeah, that's right!
01:19:13.000 He's gonna, like, now that his name's come, now that you've alluded to him, because I was just thinking we should do a message, we say hello, we say hello to, we do a little message for Joe, because he loves you and he loves your video.
01:19:25.000 Hey, Joe, it's John Rich, man.
01:19:26.000 I love your chat.
01:19:27.000 I hope I get to see you one of these days.
01:19:29.000 Michael the Archangel, man.
01:19:30.000 I don't know that he's any bigger than you, man.
01:19:32.000 Good to see you.
01:19:33.000 I think sometimes that Joe is an archangel come to earth to save and protect us all.
01:19:38.000 John, man, thank you so much.
01:19:40.000 Thanks for the way that you explain Christianity with such certainty, but with such delicacy, and actually even your answer to the sin thing.
01:19:52.000 I mean, you know, that idea that none of us is in a position to judge no one, it just comes again and again, doesn't it?
01:19:57.000 Like that principle of non-judgement.
01:19:59.000 I notice how I try to set myself up as a tribunal of like, well, I'm cleverer than these people, or I'm more advanced, or something.
01:20:07.000 I'll try and find some way, but, you know, we're all just in it together, ain't we, mate?
01:20:13.000 Yep, we are.
01:20:14.000 And there's one way out, and one way only.
01:20:15.000 It says, I am the way, the truth, and the life.
01:20:18.000 No man comes to the Father except through me.
01:20:21.000 And so, if you believe that the Bible is true, then that's what it says.
01:20:26.000 And again, He's the only one that can actually ever change you.
01:20:29.000 You can never change yourself.
01:20:30.000 You can never do enough to get to where it is you ultimately want to be.
01:20:34.000 I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior.
01:20:36.000 Please, Lord, save me, change me, use me, Heavenly Father.
01:20:40.000 I bow down before you in absolute surrender, Lord.
01:20:44.000 John, thanks so much for joining me today, and thanks for your time and for your instruction.
01:20:50.000 You bet, brother.
01:20:51.000 Keep up the great work.
01:20:52.000 Thanks for having me.
01:20:54.000 I hope you've enjoyed that conversation with John Rich.
01:20:56.000 I hope you're enjoying the post-DNC, post-coital malaise.
01:21:02.000 How will this election shape up with the inevitable constant shifting and manoeuvring?
01:21:07.000 Will the legacy media continue to amplify the messages that we've seen All this and more we will continue to discuss next week.
01:21:18.000 Join us Monday, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
01:21:22.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.