Stay Free - Russel Brand - Lara Logan EXPOSES the Media's Hidden Agendas & Power Plays – SF499

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:01:14.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:01:17.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:01:29.000 Thanks for joining me today for this very unique, spectacular, and magnificent conversation with Lara Logan.

00:01:35.000 Do you know who Lara Logan is?

00:01:36.000 She was once a treasured and adored debutante, clutched to the bosom of CNN, hosting 60 Minutes adored and devout.

00:01:46.000 She's experienced some extraordinary trauma.

00:01:48.000 Things that are sort of staggering and difficult to believe.

00:01:51.000 I'm not saying I don't believe her.

00:01:52.000 I do actually believe my guest thinks she's telling the absolute truth.

00:01:56.000 But for someone to have such insights on independent media, on centralised media, and above all else...

00:02:02.000 The potential maneuvering of occultist forces within political and secular spaces is undeniably fascinating.

00:02:10.000 You can see why on X she's much adored and admired by the likes of Musk himself.

00:02:16.000 And I believe this is someone that will continue to inform and change the conversation.

00:02:20.000 Her 10 commandments on journalism has to be seen and heard to be believed, like all of Deuteronomy.

00:02:28.000 Hey, if you're watching us on YouTube, by the way, we're only going to be with you for about the first 15 minutes or so.

00:02:31.000 Why?

00:02:32.000 Because we start talking about dark, weird stuff.

00:02:34.000 The kind of dark, weird stuff that, in all frankness and all honesty, they don't want us discussing on a platform that's, to some degree, controlled by a globalist interest.

00:02:43.000 And I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it's a bit late now, because we've already been dubbed that.

00:02:47.000 If you refuse to be compliant, what's the choice?

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00:02:59.000 Break Bread is the show that I do every single week where I have conversations with fantastic Christians, whether that's Jack Posobiec or whether it's Jonathan Peugeot, who's coming up this week.

00:03:06.000 It's a brilliant conversation.

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00:03:14.000 Excuse me.

00:03:14.000 me, I'll be asking him about his friendship with Jordan Peterson, all stuff that's likely to illuminate you, edify you, educate you and elevate your consciousness to a plane that you didn't believe was possible till you became a member of our community.

00:03:25.000 And to get you ready for that, here's a person that stands astride numerous worlds like a colossus, forgive the image, because she's been an expert journalist.

00:03:34.000 She's a journalist with integrity and power.

00:03:36.000 And as a result of that, she's experienced incredible attacks and censorship.

00:03:39.000 Please welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand, Lara Logan.

00:03:42.000 Lara, thanks so much for being there.

00:03:45.000 Actually, I'm excited to be here.

00:03:47.000 Are you?

00:03:50.000 Well, you would not believe it, but I'm actually in Dallas right now, although I live in a small country town in the middle of the Texas hill country.

00:03:57.000 So I'm not normally in the grand metropolis.

00:04:00.000 There's around 11,000 people in my town usually.

00:04:04.000 We're living in a seismic moment when it comes to the power of legacy media or mainstream media versus independent media.

00:04:14.000 Lessons that appear to have become apparent in 2016, notably in the cases of the first election of Donald Trump and the Brexit vote in the UK where the British public voted to leave the EU demonstrated that No longer could systems of government rely on the conduit to the people being the old school media and that that would guarantee them electoral results that were favourable to them.

00:04:41.000 Now we've sort of seen it again in 2024. Prior to Trump's second election, the conversations I was having with people in this space were...

00:04:48.000 Do you think that since 2016, centralized authority, whether it's the censorship industrial complex or big tech platforms or governments using groups like CRISP or logically AI, have found ways to manage online communications that will mean that in 2024 Kamala Harris will be victorious rather than Trump?

00:05:11.000 Now, obviously now we know the answer to that question.

00:05:15.000 What does that tell us about how independent media and social media are likely to align going forward?

00:05:22.000 And what is likely to be the impact politically?

00:05:27.000 Are we going to see increasing attempts to censor?

00:05:30.000 Or are we going to see new political movements emerge out of social media?

00:05:34.000 I'm not sure if you're familiar with that guy, Phidias, who's a member of the European Parliament, who's like a social media star that got elected into the The European Parliament, they're just all like, okay guys, this is the budget, and he just tells you transparently stuff.

00:05:48.000 He's been on my show, he's a fantastic young man.

00:05:51.000 I just wonder what we've learned about the limits of centralised power, whether it's state or media, and what you envisage as an independent journalist yourself, having had experiences in mainstream media, having been a denizen of that world, and a decorated journalist within that world, How do you feel it's going to unfold with the recent victory of Trump MAGA? What do you envisage evolving from this situation?

00:06:21.000 Well, there's a groundswell of support across social media for independent journalists and for citizen journalism, right?

00:06:28.000 And if you look at that, Russell, I always try to understand what is really behind this?

00:06:33.000 What is this really about?

00:06:35.000 So if you look at it, we are now, we have been for some time in the stage of fifth generation warfare.

00:06:40.000 You know, the generations of warfare are obvious.

00:06:43.000 It started out with swords and clubs and all the rest of it.

00:06:46.000 And then you introduced mechanized warfare and planes.

00:06:49.000 And obviously then you have, you know, machine guns and all the rest that come in.

00:06:52.000 Then finally, you know, fourth generation warfare was where you introduced terrorist groups, non-state actors in this kind of covert warfare.

00:07:01.000 And then now you're in fifth generation warfare, which is the information battle space, where information is no longer a weapon of war.

00:07:10.000 It is the entire battlefield.

00:07:12.000 So what you're talking about happened in 2016 that took them by surprise, that they then worked very hard to make sure it didn't happen in 2020, and then just happened again in 2024, is that their hold, they had what is known as information dominance.

00:07:29.000 And you could see that because every tactic that they used was successful.

00:07:33.000 So when they said Trump was a white supremacist, which wasn't any more true in 2016 or 20 or 24, why did it work in 2017, 18, 19, 20?

00:07:44.000 And it didn't work in 2024 because they no longer had Information dominance.

00:07:50.000 And what was the sphere?

00:07:52.000 Well, you know, Elon Musk taking over Twitter then gave up one of the most important weapons in the information battle space because it's so vast.

00:08:01.000 And it reaches people and it gave such a voice.

00:08:03.000 But that wasn't all.

00:08:04.000 I mean, as you pointed out, it was yourself, quite frankly.

00:08:08.000 Yourself, Joe Rogan, all these other podcasters who are able to amass huge audiences, but not just audiences, right?

00:08:15.000 Because it's one thing if you're in the echo chamber, when you're on social media, the reason you keep getting the same information or similar stories or things that appeal to you and your ideology is because the algorithms are written to create what's called feedback loops.

00:08:29.000 So I may think if I'm a Trump supporter, oh, Trump's doing great because in my feedback loop, everything positive about Trump.

00:08:36.000 Or if I'm a Harris supporter, I'm getting the same thing in my feedback loop.

00:08:40.000 But somewhere in between that is the truth.

00:08:42.000 Well, how do you break that information dominance?

00:08:45.000 You do it with people like Russell Brand.

00:08:46.000 You do it with people like Joe Rogan.

00:08:48.000 You do it with people like RFK Jr. Because their audience is not the mega base.

00:08:54.000 Their audience goes beyond.

00:08:55.000 So what do they want?

00:08:57.000 They want Lara Logan.

00:08:58.000 Never to be heard by anyone who's libertarian or independent or open-minded.

00:09:03.000 You can be a Democrat.

00:09:05.000 Just be open-minded.

00:09:06.000 You want to know the truth about, you know, child trafficking, which is something I cover a lot.

00:09:10.000 Well, how do we keep you isolated from Laura Logan so you never hear the truth?

00:09:15.000 So this is the most simple example I can give you.

00:09:18.000 If you were a Trump supporter in 2020, you saw the visible, physical image of That was a manifestation of his support base.

00:09:29.000 So you knew when the 2020 election results happened, you knew it was a lie.

00:09:32.000 You knew before it went to court.

00:09:34.000 You knew before the experts got on TV and yelled at you.

00:09:37.000 You knew before the Justice Department started criminalizing it.

00:09:40.000 You knew it was a lie because you knew that a guy doesn't get elected from his basement when he's drawing circles around the eight people at his rally and someone else is churning out crowds of 30, 40, 50, 60,000 during COVID is the more popular candidate.

00:09:54.000 But if you were living in that The Biden world, it made perfect sense to you.

00:09:58.000 You know why?

00:09:59.000 You never saw a Trump crowd.

00:10:01.000 You never saw a Trump rally.

00:10:02.000 Because they stopped covering it.

00:10:04.000 And not only did they do that, look at a person like Candace Owens.

00:10:08.000 Candace was phenomenally successful. 1.00

00:10:09.000 And in 2020, she got taken off Facebook.

00:10:12.000 And not only did she get taken off Facebook, but her emails were blocked.

00:10:16.000 Her text messages were blocked.

00:10:18.000 Why?

00:10:18.000 Because the email companies and the tech companies and the phone companies, they all got together.

00:10:24.000 And in what is basically a seditious conspiracy, they agreed to block People whose voices they didn't want heard to maintain information dominance.

00:10:36.000 But when Elon Musk bought Twitter, that was over.

00:10:38.000 It was done.

00:10:39.000 So you still have censorship.

00:10:40.000 You still have people who are unhappy.

00:10:42.000 But ultimately, you broke information dominance.

00:10:44.000 And then what did you have?

00:10:45.000 You just had a groundswell of truth.

00:10:48.000 Whether it was citizen journalists or it was citizen activists, you had all of these people rising up and saying, we're not going to do this anymore.

00:10:56.000 And then you had people like myself, I wasn't the only one, but you had people calling out the tactics, right?

00:11:02.000 So when they say that Trump is a, is a Hitler, right? 0.97

00:11:05.000 Or Trump is a Nazi. 0.98

00:11:06.000 It's like, wait a minute, hold on. 0.94

00:11:08.000 You have the Azov Battalion in Ukraine, which is the division actually, who are real Nazis, who fly the swastika, have that as their flag. 0.79

00:11:16.000 You have Ukrainian soldiers walking around with the black son of the occult on their uniforms. 1.00

00:11:20.000 And who used that emblem?

00:11:23.000 The Nazi SS. And by the way, where was the SS headquartered during the Second World War?

00:11:27.000 Oh yeah, Western Ukraine.

00:11:29.000 And then they yelled and screamed when Putin said, I'm going into Ukraine to get rid of the Nazis.

00:11:34.000 And everybody said, how could he disrespect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian Jews who were murdered?

00:11:39.000 But who murdered them?

00:11:40.000 The Nazis of Ukraine, mostly.

00:11:43.000 So they couldn't stop the truth from rising.

00:11:46.000 And then what did you see?

00:11:47.000 You saw it bleeding into MSNBC. I mean, this is the home of Of state-run propaganda in the United States, and yet you've got people on CNN and MSNBC literally saying, I'm not voting for Kamala Harris.

00:12:01.000 I mean, by the way, African-American voters on their air saying, I'm not voting for her because of this, this, this, and this.

00:12:09.000 And by the way, she's not black.

00:12:10.000 Well, what does that tell you?

00:12:12.000 That the tactics that they were using have now failed.

00:12:16.000 People are not putting up with it.

00:12:18.000 People are speaking up.

00:12:19.000 People are pushing back.

00:12:20.000 When they first tried to put Charlottesville on Donald Trump and call him a white supremacist, what did most people do?

00:12:27.000 Including Republicans, by the way.

00:12:28.000 They hid. 1.00

00:12:29.000 They hid like little cowards. 0.96

00:12:32.000 Because they didn't want to be associated with that. 0.99

00:12:34.000 So on the one hand, it is cowardly.

00:12:37.000 But on the other hand, what's in our DNA? We are herd animals.

00:12:42.000 Where do we find safety?

00:12:43.000 In numbers.

00:12:44.000 You know, you go into the wild.

00:12:45.000 I'm an African.

00:12:46.000 I grew up in Africa.

00:12:47.000 You know, you go into the bush.

00:12:49.000 Where will you find the animals?

00:12:50.000 You'll find them herding together because there's safety in numbers.

00:12:53.000 So on the one hand, it's part of our DNA. On the other hand, you know, we very often lack the moral courage To stand up and take the hits.

00:13:01.000 But now people have seen posts through four years of Biden and through having a voice through the success of the Charlie Kirks of this world, the success of Tucker Carlson, the success of Russell Brand, and the voices of the Tulsi Gavits and the RFK Juniors, people who crossed the aisle and said, wait a minute, you know, I wasn't ever a conservative, but I'm not a lunatic, right?

00:13:23.000 I'm not.

00:13:23.000 I mean, when you have Kamala Harris standing up at a rally, And she says to two young men who cry out, Jesus is Lord and Christ is King.

00:13:32.000 And she says, oh, I'm sorry, you're at the wrong rally.

00:13:35.000 That message would have been buried before, behind a wall of information dominance.

00:13:40.000 But now it's reaching.

00:13:42.000 This time, it reached Christians on all sides of the political spectrum.

00:13:46.000 And people said, hold on a second.

00:13:48.000 What is she saying?

00:13:49.000 You're the party of the godless?

00:13:50.000 If you follow God, you've got to go to the other side of the aisle?

00:13:53.000 And that's what you saw in the 2024 election.

00:13:56.000 But now with the rise of citizen journalism, this is the one thing that I would say to you.

00:14:00.000 And I would ask, this is probably the most important thing for me right now.

00:14:04.000 I am an old school journalist in the sense that I believe in principles of journalism.

00:14:10.000 And I believe that without principles, every time you create a space, these people, this darkness will fill that space.

00:14:20.000 And so citizen journalism is hugely important, but it's kind of anchorless right now.

00:14:25.000 They're not investing in beat journalism.

00:14:27.000 They're not investing in other journalists because most citizen journalists are just struggling to survive.

00:14:32.000 You know, I know every day is a daily struggle for me to survive.

00:14:35.000 And I have, you know, every journalism award, almost every award in existence, I already have, and many of them multiple times.

00:14:41.000 So I'm a known entity, and people have that sense of my history as a real journalist.

00:14:46.000 But what if you're a young kid trying to make it today?

00:14:49.000 You know, you can't send a young kid down to Aurora, Colorado, which has been taken over by Trenderago, one of the most violent cartels in the world, and ask them to go around the building asking people, are you a member of the cartel?

00:15:00.000 And when everyone tells you no, Then you say, oh, well, it's not true.

00:15:03.000 There's no Trenderagua.

00:15:04.000 There's no cartel activity in Aurora, Colorado.

00:15:06.000 Well, absolutely there is.

00:15:08.000 But all those people are lying to you. 0.95

00:15:09.000 Because the moment you leave, the cartel is going to, quite frankly, murder their children in front of them and then bleed them out slowly, right? 0.98

00:15:17.000 So this, you know, Russell, I never forget as a young journalist, Walking to my news editor's office or into a news editorial meeting and literally having the shit kicked out of me by all the others because I was young and idealistic and I didn't really know what real journalism was. 0.98

00:15:35.000 Who's doing that?

00:15:36.000 Who's mentoring and helping and supporting citizen journalists?

00:15:40.000 There's nobody right now.

00:15:41.000 It doesn't exist.

00:15:43.000 And so we as journalists, if we are real journalists, Who's going to fix it?

00:15:47.000 Who's going to make sure that what rises out of the ashes of legacy media is built on a foundation of principle?

00:15:54.000 I wrote the Ten Commandments of Real Journalism.

00:15:56.000 Somebody told me not to call it the Ten Commandments, but I didn't listen to them because principle, to me, principle comes directly from who we are as we were created by the Creator.

00:16:08.000 It comes from God.

00:16:09.000 And so these are the ten—I mean, I can send them to you if you want.

00:16:13.000 They're very basic.

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00:16:38.000 Tell me the Ten Commandments of Principled Journalism, Lara Logan, because this, I believe, is the future of journalism, that it has to come from some universal principles.

00:16:47.000 It can't be derived from what they call rationalism, but it's plainly the expedience of the establishment and the system.

00:16:54.000 Let's hear the Ten Commandments of Proper Journalism, because this is the kind of broadcasting, streaming, that we have to do.

00:17:03.000 It's very simple.

00:17:04.000 Number one, journalists are not lawyers in a court of law trying to prove a case or activists campaigning for a cause.

00:17:11.000 Our job is to seek the truth no matter what and follow the facts wherever they lead us regardless of political outcomes or consequences.

00:17:19.000 Simple.

00:17:20.000 Number two, it's not the role of a journalist to decide what people should think.

00:17:24.000 Our duty is to search for the whole truth and communicate accurately and honestly so the audience or reader can make up their own mind.

00:17:33.000 Number three, thou shalt not mislead, deceive, or lie, to yourself or to the public.

00:17:41.000 Number four, question everything.

00:17:43.000 Only the truth stands up to questioning.

00:17:46.000 Five, two first-hand sources are the holy grail, always better than indirect or single sources.

00:17:52.000 Six, be as skeptical of those you like and agree with as you are of those you neither like nor trust.

00:18:00.000 7. Opinion and analysis have a worthy place in journalism, but are not fact and should not be presented as such.

00:18:07.000 8. Never underestimate the audience.

00:18:11.000 People are not as dumb as you think, and lack of familiarity with a subject should never be confused with stupidity. 1.00

00:18:20.000 9. Be honest with yourself and aware of your own bias. 1.00

00:18:25.000 No one is immune.

00:18:27.000 10. Anonymity has an important place in protecting sources for valid reasons.

00:18:32.000 It should not be used as cover for political corrupt or nefarious purposes.

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00:20:22.000 We're in a fundamentally an information war because information is reality.

00:20:28.000 Reality is incomprehensible to a limited creature like me or you or anyone.

00:20:34.000 That's why we need some principles that are transcendent of human reason and human limitation.

00:20:40.000 We need to get beyond reason's limitation and operate in some new world, some new system.

00:20:45.000 It seems to me that...

00:20:47.000 Excuse me, Lara, that one of the defining traits of globalism and corporatism has been the slaughter of God and the divine principle and the laying claim of the power to the power that that God once possessed.

00:21:03.000 The ability to kill, the ability to control, the ability to censor, the ability to act like a God while claiming there isn't one.

00:21:13.000 Do you agree with that?

00:21:14.000 And how is something so sort of...

00:21:16.000 Theologically profound, playing out in real time in our political arena and our media arena right now.

00:21:25.000 Okay, so this is why you have a special gift, Russell.

00:21:30.000 This is why people listen to you, because that question goes right to the heart of everything that matters today.

00:21:37.000 I'll stop by saying this to you.

00:21:41.000 Technology, the technology that we use, is literally...

00:21:46.000 Satan's way of mimicking the omnipotence of God.

00:21:50.000 When you're talking about, yes, because the only thing actually in our world that is omnipotent is God itself.

00:21:58.000 But once you have technology that is around you all the time, that's recording and monitoring everything you say, that's feeding that knowledge into databases where people prey upon it, right, and use it to exploit.

00:22:10.000 All of this is designed to do what?

00:22:13.000 To separate us from our Creator.

00:22:16.000 And in fact, you know, you talked about principles beyond reality, right?

00:22:20.000 Because we as human beings, this is so much bigger than us.

00:22:23.000 And yet, at the same time, while it is bigger than us, this is how you know when things come from God.

00:22:30.000 Because in that very same moment, it is completely and utterly grounded in the earth that we stand upon.

00:22:38.000 And it is absolutely within our reach to know what reality is.

00:22:43.000 You know how and you know why?

00:22:45.000 So the how is we know reality because it sits in the pit of your stomach, because you are given a God-given instinct that guides you.

00:22:55.000 That's how we know what is good and what is evil, what is right and what is wrong.

00:23:00.000 I can go into a hotel in New York City and I can sit there and talk to the overnight cleaner who may have come from across the world from some unsophisticated village in some unsophisticated third world country. 1.00

00:23:13.000 And they can tell me the difference between right and wrong.

00:23:17.000 But I can go and sit with the most educated people in the United States of America who've graduated with how many degrees from the best universities and they can spin themselves into an alternative reality that is completely and utterly separated From what is true and what is honest, and they justify it a million ways, and they look down on everybody else.

00:23:41.000 Why?

00:23:41.000 Because what have they become?

00:23:42.000 They have become separated from God.

00:23:44.000 And by the way, the reverse can apply.

00:23:46.000 You know, this is not something that is just unique to one group in society.

00:23:51.000 And I know a very interesting man, someone who doesn't do interviews, so you probably never get to talk to him, certainly not publicly.

00:23:59.000 But this is a very serious man.

00:24:01.000 And he spent many years underground training to infiltrate the global cult.

00:24:06.000 And when I ask him the kind of questions that you're asking, and I ask some simpler questions, like, tell me, explain this violence against children to me.

00:24:15.000 I want to understand it.

00:24:16.000 And he always says to me, Lara, you're not looking at it the right way.

00:24:21.000 You're not asking the right question.

00:24:22.000 And I said, what do you mean?

00:24:24.000 And he said, because if you're trying to understand the mindset of the people who are implementing this, who are using technology for these reasons, who are pushing this ideology, you know, that is whether it's trans ideology or whatever it happens to be, they are not concerned with you or me.

00:24:41.000 They don't care about human beings.

00:24:44.000 They have only one focus.

00:24:46.000 So while the world is being led away from this one thing, they are laser focused on it.

00:24:52.000 And it is God.

00:24:53.000 That's what they're focused on.

00:24:55.000 Every single thing they do is about God.

00:24:59.000 It is about inflicting pain and suffering and victory over God because that is how they are rewarded.

00:25:05.000 In their world, that's how they are recognized.

00:25:09.000 While we wander further and further and further away from our Creator, whether it's believing that nature can exist, that the beauty and spirituality of life exists in nature, independent from God or any kind of Creator, it doesn't matter, you can find a million examples.

00:25:25.000 For them, they know it's all about God.

00:25:29.000 All the things that you describe that separate us from our Creator, all the things that make us feel lost, our children, they don't know what is a gender role.

00:25:39.000 Oh no, you can't say a gender role because that's bad. 1.00

00:25:41.000 Except now I've lost my identity.

00:25:43.000 I don't know what I'm supposed to do in the home.

00:25:46.000 Or in the workplace or in society, right?

00:25:48.000 Now you've got men.

00:25:50.000 I talk to psychiatrists who've got all these men as clients. 0.98

00:25:53.000 They're addicted to pornography and they're shut-ins. 0.82

00:25:57.000 They don't go out. 0.99

00:25:57.000 They don't socialize. 0.99

00:25:58.000 They don't interact.

00:26:00.000 Why?

00:26:00.000 Because they're afraid.

00:26:01.000 They don't know what their role is anymore.

00:26:03.000 They don't know what's expected of them.

00:26:05.000 They don't know what's allowed.

00:26:06.000 They don't want to overstep because essentially I do believe in the goodness and I do believe that good is greater than evil.

00:26:13.000 They don't know what to do anymore.

00:26:15.000 So what is that doing?

00:26:16.000 It's isolating us further and further and further.

00:26:19.000 Those feedback loops in the information space, those social cues that now are completely, they're in disarray and you go on and on and on.

00:26:27.000 The punishment system that's been put in place If you transgress, if maybe you say something you shouldn't or believe something you shouldn't or, God forbid, do something you shouldn't, that they've deemed shouldn't be done, all of this is to separate us from who we are.

00:26:40.000 Because when we know who we are, when we're centered in who we are and what we stand for and what we believe in, we are never closer in that moment to God.

00:26:53.000 And what they want to separate you from They want to separate you from that identity.

00:26:57.000 So this is why, you know, Tucker Carlson did a great interview with Hunter Biden's psychiatrist.

00:27:02.000 And I'll never forget that he said in that interview that they have created a mass delusion.

00:27:09.000 And we're all being ordered to participate.

00:27:12.000 So it doesn't matter.

00:27:13.000 It could be the trance ideology.

00:27:14.000 It could be the climate crisis.

00:27:16.000 Whatever.

00:27:16.000 All this, quite frankly, all this nonsense.

00:27:19.000 If you don't participate in the mass delusion, you get punished, right?

00:27:23.000 And what is the mass delusion?

00:27:24.000 It's separating us from reality.

00:27:26.000 And what is greater than reality than self?

00:27:31.000 Than knowing who you are.

00:27:32.000 And as you were what?

00:27:34.000 As you were created and designed by your creator.

00:27:36.000 So now we've got kids growing up thinking that it's possible for boys to have children.

00:27:41.000 Right?

00:27:42.000 Men can give birth and menstruate and can chest feed as opposed to breastfeed.

00:27:46.000 Well, when you go to the darker realm of that, Russell, if you go into the darker realm on the dark web and you go beyond what we see on the surface in our society, you will now find images, and I know this through the counter-trafficking work that I do and the people I work with, you will now find images of toddlers who are pregnant.

00:28:07.000 Because this ideology is completely and utterly hedonistic and dark and evil and satanic.

00:28:13.000 This is pure evil.

00:28:14.000 If you want to find where evil exists and then think about what technology has done.

00:28:18.000 It's taken every single evil person on the planet.

00:28:21.000 It's given them purpose.

00:28:22.000 It's given them identity.

00:28:24.000 It's given them a home.

00:28:26.000 It's made them rich.

00:28:27.000 It's made them richer than ever.

00:28:29.000 They found each other.

00:28:30.000 They found each other and they proliferate in this dark world.

00:28:34.000 But who runs that dark world?

00:28:36.000 Who runs it?

00:28:37.000 The people that sit at Ericsson and the tech companies, the people who host the service that store all of this pornography, that store what they call sadistic pornography, which has a name now, called Hurtcore.

00:28:51.000 The tech companies that know all the lines and the towers where this information that is data, it travels along those undersea cables.

00:29:00.000 It hits those towers.

00:29:01.000 It is stored by people who own government contracts, who move information and use it to control all of us, to manipulate our behavior, to get the electoral and political outcomes that they want, but also to get us to move further and further and further away Why?

00:29:23.000 To separate us from our Creator, because in separating and distancing us, they cause pain to God.

00:29:29.000 When we use our free will to choose darkness over light and to choose Satan over God, that is a victory for them.

00:29:37.000 And in their world, they rise and rise and rise.

00:29:40.000 And nothing causes God more pain than the victory that they can have over hurting God.

00:29:46.000 Innocent children.

00:29:48.000 And babies, by the way. 0.89

00:29:49.000 Babies whose veins are cut in a particular way so that when they're raped, you have a blood show. 0.73

00:29:55.000 There are people that like a blood show.

00:29:57.000 They do this to babies, toddlers, children.

00:29:59.000 They traffic adults.

00:30:01.000 And there are people that now make money out of that.

00:30:04.000 And all of this technology, these companies know where this is.

00:30:07.000 They watch the data move.

00:30:09.000 They can stop at any time they want to.

00:30:11.000 And they never do.

00:30:14.000 Laura, it's...

00:30:16.000 Amazing how darkly occultist this conversation has become so quickly and I recognise that one of the odd phenomena of the last few years has been the repression of information about child trafficking.

00:30:39.000 But before you got into that very particular, very lurid and obviously very disturbing subject, you were speaking in More general terms about the nature of the conflict that's taking place currently.

00:30:52.000 It has to be regarded as spiritual.

00:30:55.000 We started off talking about information and how if you control information, you control reality.

00:31:01.000 And quickly we've gotten into territory.

00:31:03.000 A few years ago, you'd only have heard people like David Icke or Alex Jones talking about people that are now sort of even in...

00:31:11.000 Even in the sort of dark peripheral edges of independent media are still somewhat spoken of in hushed terms.

00:31:20.000 But when he sort of said...

00:31:24.000 There's some things that I can really tether to more palatable arguments than the very difficult, vivid and disturbing ideas around child abuse.

00:31:36.000 And these are things I heard about a long time ago.

00:31:39.000 I was reading that kind of stuff when I was taking acid as a teenager.

00:31:43.000 I was learning about occultist organisations and Illuminati and Bilderberg Group and how sets of economic interests appeared to intersect With occultism, that sort of stuff prior to the sort of modern immersive internet was available if you were a counterculture person.

00:32:01.000 If you're a person like me that probably lived in big cities and smoked weed and was likely a drug addict and knew that you didn't belong in the main culture, you'd sort of get access to that kind of stuff.

00:32:12.000 Increasingly, it's been derided and ridiculed.

00:32:15.000 And it's interesting to hear someone with your journalistic credentials speaking about it seriously and with authority.

00:32:22.000 What I want to talk about is how I find listening to you and talking to you inspiring because I find even working in these spaces to be a kind of drain.

00:32:33.000 It's a drain to continue to generate content.

00:32:35.000 I'm very lucky that I've got the kind of deal that I have with Rumble where I'm supported and when there was a pretty cohesive, assertive attempt to cancel me, Rumble were really bold and really stood up for me, right?

00:32:50.000 But it's still difficult to make this much content continually, to feel like, well not to feel like, to know that I'm under attack and to see the ways that I've been attacked, the allegations, the accusations that have been made, and that the people that would make those allegations and accusations are and that the people that would make those allegations and accusations are not directly themselves part of The Illuminati.

00:33:12.000 Whether you're talking about the journalists that have been involved in conducting investigations.

00:33:17.000 Maybe even the online groups like Logically and Crisp that have participated in controlling and repressing information.

00:33:24.000 Maybe even the whole sets of trusted news initiatives, journalistic and news organisations that parroted and printed stories.

00:33:32.000 the various institutions, legal and law enforcement, that have in various ways participated in a project that I've got no choice to take personally, because it's personally about me, that it meshes onto, webs onto, and is connected to a very powerful idea when and is connected to a very powerful idea when it comes to a fight, not an argument, a war between good and evil, in which I, like loads of people, have just been inadvertently caught up in, because I was a person with a social media presence,

00:34:00.000 because I was a person with a social media presence and a particular political perspective, generally one of independence, mistrust of authority, a willingness to criticise power, whether that's state power, corporate, commercial power, in all of its forms, but most obviously the power commercial power, in all of its forms, but most obviously the power of big pharma that was exposed during the pandemic period and the power of the military-industrial complex that comes to the forefront during any war or

00:34:30.000 And I mention those because they're sort of rational, observable methods.

00:34:34.000 Measurable and obvious and easy to corroborate and are being corroborated by journalists like you or Whitney Webb or a bunch of others to various degrees on the left and on the right.

00:34:46.000 But what's not spoken about so often is this idea that globalism is by its nature, and this is where things get sort of, I would say, edgy today, Somewhat satanic.

00:34:58.000 And I can unpack that in a rational way.

00:35:02.000 Because what is at its essence taking God's power, the power of some transcendent yet imminent force, some triune God that is by its nature relational and loving, Extracting that power and that purview and giving it to either political, corporate or bureaucratic entities.

00:35:23.000 That in itself is literally a Luciferian project.

00:35:28.000 Because what is the nature of Lucifer?

00:35:30.000 To lay claim to God's power.

00:35:34.000 I am powerful like you.

00:35:36.000 I live outside of your domain and I have my own kingdom and I will bleach out your true light with my false light.

00:35:44.000 I was struck recently in a conversation with Tucker Carlson, as a matter of fact, when reading Orwell, who I'm assuming was probably an atheist, by the power of this moment and this image.

00:35:57.000 The passage prior to Orwell's famous maxim that if you want an image of humanity's future, picture a boot stamping on a human face forever, I was struck by whose image are we made in?

00:36:11.000 Whose image is the boot of authoritarianism stamping on?

00:36:16.000 What is being described in that image?

00:36:19.000 The annihilation and the destruction of God is what's required for state power to take away God's power.

00:36:28.000 Now, I just want to mention that emerging out of the Romantic literary tradition in my country, most obviously and notably the novel Frankenstein by the British writer Mary Shelley, was the problems, the moral, ethical and spiritual problems that emerge when man moves into, mankind moves into God's domain.

00:36:50.000 If you start to mess with life and death and life and birth and the sort of basic fundamental rules of reality that are notably, who is the one person that's meant to bring the dead back to life?

00:37:04.000 Are there any stories about that?

00:37:06.000 Anywhere in the Bible.

00:37:08.000 If you start moving into that, bringing the dead back to life through science, what you get is a demonic monster.

00:37:16.000 A monster that will be destructive, that won't know what it is.

00:37:20.000 Now that's what's clearly being deliberately created.

00:37:24.000 And this can only really be assessed and understood from a spiritual purview.

00:37:27.000 Who can end life and at what stage?

00:37:30.000 Who can revivify everything?

00:37:32.000 And resurrect and at what stage and under what conditions?

00:37:36.000 Who can decide what can be said and what can't be said?

00:37:39.000 Now, if you sort of step back to a kind of somewhat cosmic or at least, you know, 200 foot high perspective, it's clear that what's happening is the state in alignment with concealed corporate and indeed bureaucratic interests are taking that power.

00:37:56.000 And the way that we're participating in that is by sort of Foolishly entering into this pact believing that what we're doing is supporting people's rights and protecting vulnerable people and standing up against corruption.

00:38:10.000 I actually believe that people that are committed to woke ideology are well-intentioned.

00:38:17.000 I even believe that many of the people that have attacked me are well-intentioned.

00:38:21.000 They don't know, forgive them, they know not what they do, that what they're doing is the devil's work.

00:38:28.000 Killing God and replacing God with Luciferian power.

00:38:33.000 And if we don't learn how to have that conversation, to recognize that this goes beyond, as you've just explained brilliantly, goes beyond who gets to decide what wars to start because then you get access to these minerals or this territory.

00:38:45.000 Who gets to decide what crises to deploy and how to respond to that crisis in order to augur citizen management?

00:38:55.000 This goes beyond that significant and serious set of arguments and into the motivations, which it seems do include things like you've described, occultism, child murder, sex magic, weird stuff that feels like someone coming out of the civil rights and cultural revolutions weird stuff that feels like someone coming out of the civil rights and cultural revolutions of the 50s and 60s doesn't even But isn't that part of its genius?

00:39:21.000 That once you've extracted God and divine principles, that the squabble is itself somehow dislocated into...

00:39:29.000 Talking about civil rights and social justice rather than where civil rights and social justice come from and how you can even conceptualize civil rights, the rights of civilians and humans, and justice.

00:39:44.000 You can't have that without God.

00:39:46.000 You can't discuss it.

00:39:48.000 You can't frame it.

00:39:49.000 You can't underwrite it.

00:39:50.000 You can't legislate for it.

00:39:51.000 You can't kill and die for it.

00:39:53.000 So, I'm really grateful to you, because when I was listening to you, I was like, this is a person that's having the conversation I'm having.

00:39:59.000 How do you move between all this weird hypocrisy and corruption and globalism, and why am I getting accused of these things, and then into occultism and Jesus Christ and God and the devil?

00:40:10.000 It ain't easy!

00:40:12.000 And, you know, it's not an easy conversation to have, and I don't get to have it very often, so thanks!

00:40:18.000 So, Russell, it really comes down to this one word, if you think about it, what you're describing, deception, right?

00:40:25.000 Because if you've read the Bible, anybody who's read the Bible knows, when the devil comes to you, he doesn't come to you as his true self with all his ugliness, right?

00:40:36.000 He comes to you as something attractive or something impressive or something exactly like you're describing, right?

00:40:44.000 What appeals to us?

00:40:45.000 How do we know that good is stronger than evil?

00:40:47.000 Because look at all these people that when you come to them and you say, shouldn't we have a system of government or economics where nobody suffers, where people don't starve, where everyone has access to education and to healthcare and so on and so on.

00:41:02.000 And what do people say?

00:41:03.000 The good in us speaks up and we say yes.

00:41:06.000 Yes, that sounds like a great system, but imagine if Hugo Chavez of Venezuela came to his people and he said, he didn't say, we're going to take the wealth of this country and we're going to give it back to you and we're going to make life better for everyone.

00:41:19.000 That wasn't what he meant.

00:41:21.000 What he really meant was, we're going to take it all.

00:41:24.000 And in a few short years, more than 80% of this population is going to be living below the poverty line.

00:41:31.000 What you have today is going to be riches compared to when you're in the trash, sorting through the trash, looking for something to eat.

00:41:40.000 So what is that?

00:41:41.000 That's a deception.

00:41:42.000 So when I look at it, when people come to you and they say, a headmistress or a therapist or somebody comes to a parent and they say, your child has gender dysphoria, and this is the solution. 0.99

00:41:54.000 They don't tell you chemical castration or gender mutilation is going to mess up your child for life, suicide rates are going to go up.

00:42:02.000 No, what defines all of these things?

00:42:05.000 Deception.

00:42:06.000 When they tell you globalization is going to make everybody, you know, give us access to goods, it's going to lift people up all over the world.

00:42:13.000 That was a deception, right?

00:42:15.000 It was a lie.

00:42:16.000 So anytime you want to identify what you're talking about, if you can find the presence of deception, you really have the presence of Satan.

00:42:25.000 You have the presence of darkness.

00:42:27.000 Because...

00:42:28.000 Satan comes to you with, oh, yeah, we want civil rights. 0.99

00:42:32.000 We want to end slavery.

00:42:33.000 We don't want anybody to suffer.

00:42:34.000 There should be an end to racism.

00:42:36.000 Yes, these are great things.

00:42:38.000 And it is a testament to our humanity, honestly, to our fealty to God, that we choose to say yes.

00:42:46.000 But what we don't know is that behind this, this comes to us not from a place of light.

00:42:50.000 It's coming to us from a place of darkness.

00:42:53.000 And we are being sucked into something else.

00:42:55.000 That's why you say, how do these things connect?

00:42:58.000 How does sex education in American schools, what does that have to do with where we are today?

00:43:03.000 Well, because it came as a Marxist ideology.

00:43:06.000 It came from, you know, all this stuff, hippie love.

00:43:09.000 I grew up in the culture that Woodstock was a wonderful, great time of free love, right?

00:43:13.000 But what was Woodstock?

00:43:15.000 What was it also about?

00:43:16.000 It was all of those things.

00:43:18.000 But behind that, it was about something else.

00:43:21.000 It was a breaking down of the family and of morality and society.

00:43:24.000 It was the introduction of narcotics.

00:43:27.000 Because what is narcotics?

00:43:28.000 Why do we call them gateway drugs?

00:43:30.000 Not just because marijuana can lead you to cocaine, but because it opens up a gateway.

00:43:35.000 It opens you up to forces of darkness.

00:43:40.000 You behave in a way that you wouldn't.

00:43:43.000 How do you get people to do things they wouldn't normally do?

00:43:45.000 You break them down through alcohol.

00:43:48.000 By the way, spirits.

00:43:49.000 Why are they called spirits?

00:43:51.000 Because they open you up to other spirits, right?

00:43:53.000 Things that are not from God, things that come from somewhere else.

00:43:57.000 And so when you say, how can we have a conversation and fix these things if we don't come back to what this is really about, is that when we as a society, when we try to make policy and we separate ourselves from God, we are separating ourselves from the very thing that defines what is good in us and in our world.

00:44:20.000 So it's like when somebody comes to you and say you have a friend, say you have a friend who's having a midlife crisis or they're having PTSD or trauma, but they don't believe in God and they don't have any family.

00:44:32.000 And they're older in their life.

00:44:34.000 Well, what's your purpose for living?

00:44:35.000 What is it you're going to do?

00:44:37.000 If you've got enough money, what are you going to do?

00:44:39.000 You're going to play golf.

00:44:40.000 You're going to go on vacations.

00:44:42.000 You're going to travel the world.

00:44:43.000 You're going to see the world.

00:44:44.000 What is the purpose of your being here?

00:44:46.000 If you don't believe that there's any great purpose to being here, then your life becomes reduced to something incredibly superficial.

00:44:55.000 And what do we know about human beings?

00:44:57.000 That even when you have all the money and fame in the world, What do you crave?

00:45:01.000 You crave meaning.

00:45:03.000 You crave purpose.

00:45:04.000 You crave something that is bigger than yourself.

00:45:07.000 Why am I happy in my life?

00:45:10.000 Because I have been living God's purpose since the day I was born.

00:45:14.000 Because Even before I knew that I was living God's purpose, I knew what my purpose was.

00:45:22.000 And then over time, as life progressed, why did I survive being gang raped and sodomized and beaten almost to death by a mob of more than 200 men when I was reporting for 60 Minutes in Egypt, in Tahrir Square?

00:45:35.000 Why did I survive that?

00:45:37.000 What was the purpose of that?

00:45:39.000 Why did I survive the war in Afghanistan on my own as a young journalist?

00:45:46.000 Why did God put angels on my shoulder and guide me?

00:45:49.000 Why was I there when the Taliban owned more than 90% of the ground in Afghanistan and women were being executed publicly in stadiums for just showing a tiny bit of flesh?

00:45:59.000 And I was living with Afghan soldiers, living with Afghan soldiers on the front line.

00:46:05.000 Why did I survive all of that?

00:46:07.000 To take it to my grave?

00:46:09.000 To offer nothing beyond who I am as a person?

00:46:12.000 No.

00:46:12.000 God was preparing me.

00:46:14.000 He was preparing me for every little step along the way.

00:46:18.000 And on that time, Russell, I was divided.

00:46:21.000 I was separated from God through pain because I could not bear to see injustice anywhere around me.

00:46:28.000 It broke my heart.

00:46:29.000 And I could not understand when I was helping to dig, you know, the wrecked body of a young child out of the rubble from an airstrike.

00:46:37.000 What was the purpose in all of this?

00:46:39.000 How could God let this happen?

00:46:41.000 Growing up in South Africa, how could I see kids on the street?

00:46:45.000 You know, how could I see them suffer and starve and never know love?

00:46:49.000 How could there be a God if this could be happening?

00:46:51.000 And what I realized as I grew older and God stripped me of The big salary and the fame and the fortune and all of those things.

00:47:01.000 He stripped those things away from me so that I could just be free to just do what I was born to do, which is to be honest, no matter what, not beholden to any special interests, not beholden to any political interests, not beholden to anything or anyone except the truth, which comes from who?

00:47:18.000 Which comes from God.

00:47:19.000 That's all I was beholden to.

00:47:21.000 That's all I worked to discover and to learn.

00:47:23.000 So how did He show me that?

00:47:26.000 Well, one day I began to realize that the dividing line between good and evil, the dividing line between God and the devil, is free will.

00:47:36.000 And that when God gives you free will, it means that when you exercise your free will, He can't intervene.

00:47:41.000 Because what are principles?

00:47:43.000 Principles are absolute.

00:47:44.000 They're just a bumper sticker, right?

00:47:46.000 They're just something you say if you don't stand up for them when they're going to cost you everything.

00:47:50.000 If you only choose to pick and choose when you're going to stand up for principle, then principles are rendered meaningless.

00:47:56.000 So if God says, if the principle is, I give you free will, He can't intervene when you choose evil.

00:48:03.000 He cannot intervene. 0.91

00:48:05.000 So that was when I stepped back from it and I realized that my tears, because my mother actually, she used to say to me as a young girl, the problem with you, my girl, is you've got your bladder behind your bloody eyeballs, okay?

00:48:18.000 Because I had such a soft heart and it would break me to see suffering.

00:48:23.000 And I learned that that pain that I felt that was separating me from God was really a fraction.

00:48:30.000 That was God showing me His pain.

00:48:34.000 A fraction of his pain at the evil that we do on earth.

00:48:38.000 And then when you realize and you learn how to let go, but you realize that the Word of God is the instruction manual.

00:48:45.000 It's the instruction manual for us in our lives.

00:48:48.000 It's the instruction manual for government.

00:48:50.000 It's the instruction manual for how we as society are meant to function because it keeps us close to the principles and the truth and those things All come from God.

00:49:01.000 So when you begin to separate a society from God, so I grew up believing the church has done, people have done terrible things in the name of God, the church has done evil, the this, the that, the pedophiles, and you start this in South Africa, it was justifying racism through the church.

00:49:16.000 Well, I don't want to be any part of that.

00:49:18.000 This is bad, right?

00:49:20.000 This is separating us, coming to us in the guise of something that is good, But separating us from the real good, from the true good that is within us.

00:49:31.000 And it's within us we are born with it because we are born in the image of God, as you just said.

00:49:38.000 And so you can't fix any of this.

00:49:40.000 If you turn to yourself, understanding the difference between working to the good of God, because we are a works-based faith when we believe, working to the good of God, but also recognizing what is beyond us.

00:49:54.000 So I never get depressed Or bogged down when I'm overwhelmed by the scale of something happening around me.

00:50:01.000 Because I know that's God saying, you've done your part.

00:50:05.000 This is mine.

00:50:06.000 Leave it to me.

00:50:08.000 Have faith.

00:50:09.000 Leave it to me.

00:50:11.000 And so then I get strength from that.

00:50:13.000 Instead of being overwhelmed, I take strength from it.

00:50:15.000 And you talk about all those people that have attacked you.

00:50:18.000 I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:50:20.000 They came from me more than 10 years ago.

00:50:22.000 And that was a revelation.

00:50:23.000 And I began to uncover what this world is that they've created.

00:50:26.000 Well, you know what the devil knows how to do?

00:50:28.000 Is to set the conditions, right?

00:50:31.000 So that when you say, well, some of these people attacking me, they may have good conditions, may have good intentions.

00:50:37.000 Well, the devil has set the conditions for them to to believe that and to take the actions that they do.

00:50:43.000 But we are past that point now where they get a free pass because it is well documented, for example, that there are more than 300,000 unaccompanied minors who've come to the United States without anyone And they are missing.

00:50:57.000 And we don't know where they are.

00:50:59.000 So now is when you have to say to yourself, okay, am I going to just go to sleep every night and wake up every day and I'm going to be a person that says, well, you know, kids go missing.

00:51:09.000 No.

00:51:10.000 No, God's children are not for sale.

00:51:12.000 So who are you as a person?

00:51:14.000 You have to decide because the only thing that matters is when you stand before God and he says, once you knew, what did you do?

00:51:23.000 I do get bogged down in overwhelming situations.

00:51:28.000 I do still have in me a kind of reverence for self.

00:51:34.000 It has changed radically and improved since being baptised and I now have the facility of the Holy Spirit and have the present relationship with Him that enables me to abide and obey.

00:51:53.000 What I suffer from, Lara, is what you just described there with the devil's ability to set conditions is I feel the kind of...

00:52:07.000 I would never describe it as this...

00:52:10.000 Before hearing you use these terms, is that I feel myself getting pulled back into only caring about how I'm affected by things and what it's going to do to me and my fear.

00:52:23.000 I'm not going to get what I want.

00:52:24.000 I'm going to lose what I have.

00:52:26.000 I, you know, in practice, lose my faith.

00:52:29.000 So it's a very...

00:52:33.000 It's odd that really what is being demanded of us, you know, the material world, the rational world is demanding that you become devout as well.

00:52:42.000 And to such a degree that actually when you talk about, when you sort of for a moment there, you took about your childhood and you listed some of the traumas you've encountered, which appeared to include gang rape, as well as exposure to violence and other people's deaths and a lot of trauma.

00:53:01.000 It was quite a lot.

00:53:02.000 listen to let alone obviously endure when people talk like that in the nature of the spirit i can almost feel a sort of a disjunct and a kind of pushing away of like no that can't be true that can't be true it cannot be it's too it's too much and then you know and even when you relate it to the child trafficking it feels like no i can't take that on board it's

00:53:27.000 It's like, you know, when you're overwhelmed with self, self-centeredness, it's such an overwhelming and demanding religion.

00:53:33.000 And its cathedral is everywhere because you carry it in your pocket.

00:53:38.000 Yes!

00:53:39.000 So it's very difficult to break away from that.

00:53:42.000 And it starts to sound like what the mastery of the setting of satanic conditions is.

00:53:48.000 So even speaking spiritually sounds like a kind of insanity.

00:53:53.000 It sounds like a kind of hysteria.

00:53:56.000 I wanted to bring a bit of word into it.

00:53:58.000 Help me out, certainly.

00:54:00.000 I know it will help you, because it is him.

00:54:03.000 From John, the top of John.

00:54:05.000 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

00:54:11.000 He was with God in the beginning.

00:54:14.000 Through him, all things were made.

00:54:17.000 Without him, nothing was made that has been made.

00:54:21.000 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.

00:54:26.000 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

00:54:33.000 What strikes me about this opening verses of John is how we're invited to transcend, of course, our understanding of reality, space and time.

00:54:45.000 We're invited to accept that Jesus Christ was present at the creation.

00:54:50.000 And there's some Old Testament, you know, some people would object to the word evolution.

00:54:55.000 Evidence, but there's certainly corollary in the use of the plural in the Garden of Eden.

00:55:03.000 They will become like us.

00:55:05.000 And we mentioned before the triune nature of the Christian God. 0.76

00:55:11.000 One God, three persons, ice, water, vapour, all H2O. And I mentioned this in conjunction too with what you said a minute ago.

00:55:22.000 About socialism and about something that I recently learned a lot from revisiting Orwell and a lot from reading a Christian apologist called Joseph Boot about how totalitarianism can flow forth not just from 20th century forms of dictatorship But this new technological feudalism that seems to have been born of social democracy,

00:55:48.000 that most liberal of ideologies that claims to be about the freedom of the individual.

00:55:54.000 But what does that freedom mean?

00:55:57.000 It appears to mean a kind of freedom to be absolutely exploited and totally controlled.

00:56:03.000 Now, like, it's clear to me that the solution personally, and I guess I'm not qualified to go beyond that claim, is...

00:56:11.000 Christ is nothing less than God, the creator of all reality, came into our reality to experience the limitations while simultaneously experiencing the limitlessness of God and died for our sins in order, as best as I can...

00:56:34.000 Conjure up using the English language.

00:56:37.000 Create a new frequency through the covenant of blood that allowed an essential beingness that was impossible before to be now, which we might theologically know as the Holy Spirit or our personal relationship with Christ.

00:56:55.000 And if we were to try to understand it using perhaps quantum language, a sort of Super state of potentiality where we, through the free will that you mentioned earlier, can become living conduits for God,

00:57:11.000 or as it would say in Jeremiah, the living water, the living stream, that we must resist breaking down into systems, solipsistic, self-contained, self-centred systems of personhood and allow to be part of an ongoing flow.

00:57:29.000 Maybe if the Pentecost has one clear image in it, it is the reigning of the holy fire, it is the waking of lingual magnificence and luminosity that comes when we are able to become conduits of his grace and greatness and engender and evoke His power through language,

00:57:50.000 resuming his power here through a new relationship, a relationship that might emulate the relationship of those three aspects of God in our relationships with one another.

00:58:03.000 I recognize that that's not a question in this conventional sense.

00:58:09.000 In the conventional sense, Lara.

00:58:11.000 It's more of a set of statements based on scripture, but given that you're having to, like, at one point, what did you say during your last answer?

00:58:21.000 You talked about Hugo Chavez, and you talked about, like, the...

00:58:27.000 For a minute you said, well, what that done is it put 80% of the population below the poverty line.

00:58:32.000 And in a sense, we are forced to have this conversation almost in economic terms.

00:58:37.000 And I know a lot of people that are socialists and even Marxists that are, you know, like good people that believe that what socialism is...

00:58:46.000 It's kindness, fairness, togetherness, oneness, God's holy family.

00:58:53.000 We're all brothers and sisters.

00:58:55.000 But when you try to do that materially and rationally with the distinct and definitive...

00:59:02.000 Annihilation of the God principle, what you get is by its nature Luciferian.

00:59:07.000 I never believed that I would say that.

00:59:08.000 I never believed that I would look back at, you know, cultural moments like Woodstock and sort of agree with you that what it fundamentally was was a depositing of holy power in God.

00:59:22.000 And one thing I do want to be careful of is It's like, you know, when talking about, like, the Cold War and the wars that came out of it and the culture that preceded it, how do you avoid, Lara, what we're discussing now, not becoming, not eliding into saying, the 1950s in America was great.

00:59:45.000 Mum and dad were home with their two white children and their perfect lawn, and the Negro... 1.00

00:59:51.000 Toil to work!

00:59:52.000 You know, like, how do you, like, not equate what we're talking about of, like, a culture based on God's word?

01:00:00.000 Because, like, you know, immediately prior to the cultural revolutions that come out of the Beats and the 60s, what most people would...

01:00:11.000 Considered to have been American identity was a kind of heterodoxy that was quite, some might say, repressive, was about to become mass consumerism and the white goods era, the implementation of levels of manufacture and industrialization that I believe Marx was correct in. 0.99

01:00:31.000 To identify as exploitative of human beings. 0.81

01:00:35.000 The Henry Ford model of car construction being just one casual and colloquial example.

01:00:43.000 Do we not have to be careful when we're saying that Chavez plundered a bunch of people below the poverty line to...

01:00:51.000 To ensure that we acknowledge that free market capitalism, which I think a lot of people are that we might be becoming affiliated with, is not God, is not Jesus.

01:01:04.000 There's two things that stand out to me as I listen to you, Russell.

01:01:07.000 And one is that Marxism and communism, people don't really look at the history.

01:01:15.000 If you look at the history of socialism and Karl Marx, who hired Karl Marx?

01:01:20.000 Who paid his bills?

01:01:22.000 Who tasked him with creating this system of, by the way, social control?

01:01:29.000 Anytime you see the word social in these contexts, it really is a euphemism for control.

01:01:35.000 Well, it was the Rothschilds at 10 Downing Street or 14 Downing Street. 0.71

01:01:40.000 And if you start to look at that history, so what does that lead me to?

01:01:44.000 It leads me to the very thing that I mentioned in the Ten Commandments of Real Journalism.

01:01:49.000 Which is our job is to search for the whole truth.

01:01:55.000 Right?

01:01:55.000 Because the whole truth is obviously a big thing.

01:01:58.000 But at its core, it's very simple.

01:02:00.000 They want to complicate it.

01:02:01.000 They want to tell you you can never possibly understand it.

01:02:04.000 You know, you're not educated enough. 1.00

01:02:06.000 You're too stupid. 1.00

01:02:07.000 You're not sophisticated enough. 1.00

01:02:08.000 Whatever.

01:02:09.000 It doesn't matter what they say.

01:02:11.000 The fact is that the truth can often be very big.

01:02:14.000 But what helps us is that there's only one truth.

01:02:18.000 And usually it's very simple.

01:02:20.000 So it might be big, but it's very, very simple.

01:02:23.000 So when you come back to what you're talking about, What happens to us is we get channeled into certain categories.

01:02:31.000 So one minute the 50s has to be the be all and end all of the world.

01:02:35.000 The next minute the 50s has to be a big lie.

01:02:37.000 But the truth is, this is what Shakespeare and Thomas Hardy and all of these kind of writers, this is what they created.

01:02:44.000 Really Shakespeare created it, right?

01:02:46.000 Was that hero or the villain In literature that was not simple, but they were complex.

01:02:53.000 And what was that revealing?

01:02:54.000 A simple truth.

01:02:55.000 And the simple truth is that people are usually good and bad, that we're flawed as human beings, and that those of us who are truly and utterly pure evil are rare.

01:03:08.000 Right?

01:03:08.000 And so you do have the rare, I think in the Bible, a friend of mine who does counter-trafficking pointed this out to me one day.

01:03:14.000 He said, you know, the sinner can repent.

01:03:16.000 You can repent right up to the hour or the moment of your death and God will forgive you.

01:03:21.000 But it is the wicked, the wicked spit.

01:03:25.000 In the face and in the eye of God, right?

01:03:27.000 They don't want repentance.

01:03:29.000 They don't want forgiveness.

01:03:30.000 So what you're dealing with is you're dealing with this reality that evil actually does exist, right?

01:03:37.000 And why do I mention this?

01:03:40.000 Because when you search for the whole truth, It reveals to you both the simplicity of truth and sometimes that things can be bigger than us and also can be complex at the same time.

01:03:53.000 And people can be good and evil at the same time.

01:03:56.000 So I don't ever shy away from understanding the truth.

01:04:00.000 For me, it's very simple.

01:04:02.000 You know, I am just as flawed as you.

01:04:05.000 I am just as imperfect as you.

01:04:06.000 I struggle every day.

01:04:08.000 To be a better person and to be closer to God and to learn more and to understand more and to be better.

01:04:15.000 Because one of the things that bothers me is my, you know, God says that our children, our responsibility as parents is that our children know God.

01:04:22.000 And I think my children are growing up in a relatively godless society, not a godless world, but a godless society because they're surrounded By everything satanic, you know, from popular culture to Hollywood, to video games, to the social pressure.

01:04:38.000 As you pointed out, you can't talk about these things without there being something on you that labels you as crazy, right?

01:04:44.000 And so my job as a parent is to try and do better on all of those fronts.

01:04:49.000 But what it comes down to for me is I have a very simple purpose.

01:04:54.000 My purpose is to understand the whole truth and then my job, once I understand that, is to communicate it in a way that is memorable and that is understandable and that reaches people.

01:05:05.000 And as long as I do that, when I crawl into bed at the end of a day, I'm exhausted.

01:05:10.000 I give every single part of myself, every part of myself, I devote to this.

01:05:17.000 Some dignity.

01:05:19.000 Don't crawl in there like a centipede.

01:05:23.000 Sometimes I'm just exhausted.

01:05:26.000 Get in that bed confidently and competently.

01:05:29.000 Lay your head on the pillow.

01:05:32.000 Maybe a quick pray before...

01:05:34.000 Well, I will say I have five dogs and four cats and three puppies, so I've got to fight for a space in that bed.

01:05:42.000 Yeah, we just got a puppy.

01:05:44.000 I shouldn't leave him out.

01:05:45.000 He's important.

01:05:46.000 Get him in the menagerie.

01:05:48.000 My bed, our bed, there's me, my wife, there's my young son, there's a new dachshund puppy.

01:05:54.000 They're all in the bed.

01:05:55.000 They're all getting on my nerves.

01:05:57.000 Yeah, she sleeps under my legs. 1.00

01:05:59.000 They're a cutesy doxy. 1.00

01:06:01.000 Doxies.

01:06:02.000 That's what we're calling them.

01:06:04.000 You know, I think that was such an amazing conversation.

01:06:06.000 I simply think that we have to participate in the creation of a network together.

01:06:12.000 Done.

01:06:13.000 You got it.

01:06:14.000 Will ya?

01:06:15.000 Do you wanna?

01:06:16.000 I do.

01:06:17.000 I do.

01:06:18.000 In fact, I've been looking for the right place.

01:06:21.000 Because I have...

01:06:23.000 I have a brand.

01:06:24.000 I have an identity.

01:06:25.000 Millions of people know my work.

01:06:27.000 Millions of people know who I am.

01:06:29.000 But I have not done a podcast because I wanted to fight for the part of journalism that is being lost.

01:06:36.000 You're doing a good job.

01:06:37.000 You should know that there's a man lurking behind you.

01:06:41.000 Seems like he could be an honest gentleman, but just watch out for him because I don't know if we can trust that guy in the stovepipe hat.

01:06:50.000 You are very funny.

01:06:51.000 Thank you.

01:06:52.000 I was a comedian before I was vilified and tortured into becoming a follower of Jesus Christ.

01:06:59.000 Well, you know, I mean, Christ was crucified, right?

01:07:02.000 He didn't get to say when he had the hammered in the first nail, Oh, that hurts.

01:07:06.000 Can you skip the rest of it?

01:07:08.000 Oh, actually, I didn't agree to that.

01:07:10.000 Whoa, that's a bit much.

01:07:12.000 I mean, have we made the point?

01:07:14.000 You know, we've made the point now.

01:07:15.000 Do we really need to go all the way?

01:07:17.000 Yeah, we've done it.

01:07:18.000 We've done it.

01:07:18.000 It's okay.

01:07:19.000 That'll do.

01:07:19.000 That hurt.

01:07:20.000 No, it went on.

01:07:22.000 I need to tell you about something.

01:07:24.000 You just made me think of it.

01:07:25.000 I did a story once about a man who was falsely accused of murdering his wife, of beating her to pieces, pieces of her on the ceiling, and doing all of this in front of his young son, who was three years old, and he'd just survived open-heart surgery.

01:07:37.000 And this man went to prison.

01:07:39.000 He lost everything.

01:07:40.000 He was vilified.

01:07:41.000 He lost his freedom, his reputation.

01:07:43.000 He just lost his wife.

01:07:45.000 And he went off to work that day to stack shelves at a supermarket.

01:07:49.000 And when he came home, you know, his wife was dead, and they'd already decided he was guilty.

01:07:54.000 So this is the man who, I think it was close to 27 years in prison, maybe a little less.

01:07:59.000 And he was finally vindicated through DNA testing.

01:08:02.000 And not only was he vindicated, but they vacated his conviction.

01:08:05.000 And he was declared innocent, which is a big deal in America because then you're entitled to compensation.

01:08:10.000 But until then, you're not.

01:08:12.000 And he described for me the very worst moment of that entire time that he was incarcerated was when first his son changed his name.

01:08:21.000 And then when he got older, and he stopped visiting him, right?

01:08:25.000 Sorry, he stopped visiting him first, then he changed his name finally when he got old enough.

01:08:29.000 And this man spent 15 years, every day of his life in prison, planning, plotting, listing all the people he wanted to kill because they did this to him.

01:08:39.000 And then he had a moment.

01:08:40.000 He had a moment when he was visited by the Holy Spirit.

01:08:45.000 He had his God moment when he discovered Christ.

01:08:48.000 And he spent the rest of his time behind bars actually working to improve himself.

01:08:53.000 He got a degree.

01:08:54.000 He did all kinds of things, but he walked with God.

01:08:57.000 And when I interviewed him for 60 Minutes, my son was three years old.

01:09:02.000 And during that interview, the only time that Michael really broke Was when he described to me what it was like holding his three-year-old son.

01:09:12.000 And the sheriff came to his door with a neighbor.

01:09:15.000 And it had been his birthday the night before his wife was murdered. 0.96

01:09:19.000 And he was mad at her because she didn't stay up and have sex with him. 0.64

01:09:23.000 So he wrote over a nasty, you know, angry letter before he went to work.

01:09:27.000 And that letter they used to convict him.

01:09:29.000 And so he just got his son survived.

01:09:32.000 He'd lost his wife.

01:09:33.000 The sheriff shows up at his door.

01:09:35.000 And they tear his son out of his arms and give his child to the neighbor.

01:09:40.000 And that boy would not be raised by either of his parents.

01:09:44.000 His mother is dead and his father is behind bars now for 20 something years.

01:09:48.000 And when Michael described that moment for me, it was painful because I knew I had a three-year-old son at home that I would happily give my life for, right?

01:09:57.000 And so after Michael came out of prison, one of the things he did was fight to change the law because he was convicted by a corrupt prosecutor and they withheld exculpatory information.

01:10:07.000 And in the United States, at that time, there was complete immunity for prosecutors from civil litigation and civil liability.

01:10:15.000 And Michael changed that in the state of Texas.

01:10:18.000 It's because of him we now have Morton's Law, which has gone to other states.

01:10:22.000 But when Michael came to our home And spoke to people in a fireside chat about the book that he'd written.

01:10:29.000 One of the things he said to those people was, he said that it is our job to be as grateful for our trials and our suffering and our, and the adversary in our lives as we are for our blessings.

01:10:44.000 Like he said, I am glad that this happened to me.

01:10:47.000 And I, I, you know, when he finished speaking, I talked to him, I said, Michael, I said, I know what this took from you.

01:10:55.000 I know what you went through because we went through all of this for a long time when we were doing the 60-minute story.

01:11:00.000 I said, how can you stand here and say that you're glad that this happened to you?

01:11:06.000 And he said to me, because I would never be the person, I would never have become the person I am today if I had not gone that path.

01:11:16.000 I would happily do it all.

01:11:18.000 I said, if you could do it all over again, you would still go through that.

01:11:21.000 And he said, yes.

01:11:22.000 I said, I believe you, but I cannot understand it because I know how you suffered and what you lost.

01:11:29.000 And by the way, he and his son are now close again, and he was there for the birth of his first grandchild.

01:11:34.000 However, I was not in that place where I could be as happy for what I'd been through.

01:11:39.000 And guess what?

01:11:40.000 I'm there now.

01:11:41.000 I'm glad that I was stripped of my 60 Minutes job.

01:11:45.000 I was the future of the greatest investigative show, most successful in the world.

01:11:50.000 And I was in the New York Times and magazines.

01:11:55.000 I was given everything you could imagine.

01:11:57.000 I'm glad I lost it all.

01:11:59.000 I'm grateful to God for stripping me of all of that and letting me...

01:12:03.000 I never have to worry.

01:12:05.000 I never ever betrayed my purpose.

01:12:08.000 I never buried the truth because I didn't want to lose my job.

01:12:12.000 I didn't do it.

01:12:13.000 So I'm not some great person.

01:12:15.000 I'm not better than you.

01:12:16.000 He stripped it from me and saved me from having to make that choice.

01:12:19.000 That's why I'm sympathetic to people out there.

01:12:22.000 Who maybe lack the moral courage to come forward or lack the ability to come forward because they can't afford to lose their job.

01:12:29.000 But at the same time, I want you to know there is such peace.

01:12:34.000 When you get to this place where I am, and I am grateful for what happened to me in Egypt for every little bit.

01:12:40.000 I got cancer 10 months later.

01:12:43.000 My daughter was 10 months old when I almost died in that square.

01:12:47.000 My son was a year old, right?

01:12:49.000 And they were one and two when I got cancer.

01:12:52.000 And I am so grateful for those things because you realize that they're built into the fabric of who you become.

01:13:01.000 And if you can be proud of who you become, Because you know that every single day that you get up, you do everything you can to be good and to live a good life and to make good decisions.

01:13:12.000 And you give every ounce of strength that you have.

01:13:16.000 You give it all.

01:13:17.000 And when you wake up in the morning, you do it all over again.

01:13:20.000 And you never get tired.

01:13:22.000 You never get tired because it's the most beautiful feeling of peace that you have that carries you through.

01:13:28.000 That I know what my life has meant.

01:13:30.000 I know why I'm here.

01:13:31.000 I don't have to worry.

01:13:32.000 And I know where I'm going.

01:13:34.000 I don't know what it looks like, but I'm going to rest.

01:13:39.000 I'm going to rest. 0.79

01:13:40.000 And you can rest when you're dead.

01:13:41.000 You don't have to do it now.

01:13:44.000 Thank you, Lara Logan, for that powerful story and illustration of spiritual principles in practice and how they might be deployed in a variety of worldly roles without succumbing to worldliness and therefore the sets of values that increasingly it becomes clear actually underwrite them.

01:14:03.000 That was a really amazing conversation.

01:14:04.000 Until we eventually form our own media operation together, thank you very much for your time.

01:14:13.000 Every time, Russell.

01:14:14.000 Let's do this.

01:14:15.000 Okay.

01:14:16.000 I'll text you afterwards.

01:14:18.000 Lara, thank you very much for joining us.

01:14:21.000 Lara, thank you for the education.

01:14:23.000 Thank you for the illumination.

01:14:24.000 Thank you for the boldness and bravery.

01:14:25.000 And thank you, too, for being a member of this community and supporting our content to support it further.

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01:14:56.000 And this sort of cultural shift happened in Western societies.

01:15:01.000 It was the removal of God from the public square.

01:15:03.000 Total removal.

01:15:05.000 God, oh, that's just something from an old book.

01:15:08.000 And the nuns will wrap you on the knuckles if you do something wrong in class.

01:15:12.000 And that has no bearing on our modern society.

01:15:14.000 So we've got to get rid of God.

01:15:17.000 And we have the atomic age now.

01:15:18.000 We don't need him anymore.

01:15:19.000 So we took God out.

01:15:22.000 And we said, all right, well, we're just going to be people now.

01:15:24.000 We're just going to be humans.

01:15:26.000 And we'll try to live by those same ethics.

01:15:28.000 And it's been...

01:15:30.000 It's been a complete disaster.

01:15:31.000 It's just been an utter and complete disaster.

01:15:35.000 Well, thank you very much.

01:15:36.000 I will be back on Monday for a whole new week of shows.

01:15:41.000 Fantastic shows.

01:15:42.000 6 hours and 15 minutes of content.

01:15:45.000 Three of those shows streamed live.

01:15:47.000 Two of those shows pre-taped with guests quite likely.

01:15:51.000 Fantastic guests that you will love and adore.

01:15:53.000 From that we will derive social media assets that we will post on locals, signing them off in advance so that we know what they are and what their explicit intention is.

01:16:01.000 Is this to drive people to the live stream, you might ask yourself?

01:16:04.000 Or is it in order that people subscribe to Break Bread, our awakened wonder facility that you are all welcome to?

01:16:12.000 You'll know exactly what's happening on Monday because I'll give you an overview of the entire week as well as telling you the news every single day.

01:16:19.000 Then you will see it on YouTube, cut up beautifully, to bring you over to the sweet stream of freedom that we call Rumble.

01:16:27.000 But that's not for today.

01:16:28.000 That's for next week.

01:16:30.000 A whole new, brand new week, infused with new energy and glorious power as we approach the feast of Thanksgiving.

01:16:36.000 And what are we giving thanks for?

01:16:37.000 Freedom, Heavenly Father!

01:16:38.000 The freedom that we know only in your name.

01:16:40.000 Even though this is a secular holiday that essentially is celebrating colonialism and oppression, I suppose, on some level.

01:16:46.000 You can let me know in the comments in chat if you would agree with that, baby.

01:16:49.000 Okay, see you Monday.

01:16:50.000 Not for more of the same, more of the different.

01:16:51.000 I'd never insult you with that craps.

01:16:53.000 Till then, if you can, stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - November 22, 2024

Lara Logan EXPOSES the Media's Hidden Agendas & Power Plays – SF499

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