Stay Free - Russel Brand - Lee Fang (Exclusive: Exposing Pfizer)

00:00:00.000 Hey, hello there you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:01.000 Thanks for joining me on Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:05.000 Let me turn off the audio on... Oh, that's what it's like being me.

00:00:10.000 I hear my own voice in my own mind.

00:00:12.000 There's always at least three tracks running.

00:00:14.000 For example, someone's got to give this dog a biscuit, haven't they?

00:00:17.000 Someone's got to do it.

00:00:18.000 Someone's got to organise... I thought I was meant to be the intern.

00:00:21.000 No, no, no, no.

00:00:23.000 I've given him a biscuit and he says it's malpractice.

00:00:27.000 Someone's got to bring together a set of disparate communities to bring about a global revolution.

00:00:32.000 Someone has got to ask you, our community, will Taiwan be the next Ukraine?

00:00:38.000 Someone's got to tell you, breaking news, Tucker's left Fox.

00:00:41.000 Tucker has left Fox.

00:00:43.000 Tucker's not going to do Fox anymore.

00:00:44.000 Let's call Tucker.

00:00:46.000 Call him?

00:00:47.000 You just left him a voice note.

00:00:48.000 I know, he's too keen now for Tucker.

00:00:51.000 Hold on, he's listened to the voice note.

00:00:52.000 Does it mean they've listened to it if it disappears?

00:00:54.000 I don't know, has it gone blue ticks?

00:00:56.000 We will get you Tucker by the end of this show, so help me God.

00:01:01.000 And also exclusively on Rumble, you know we're on YouTube right now, well we won't be in a minute because of the, you know, we love YouTube.

00:01:08.000 YouTube's where our 6.4 million wonders live and we love every single one of a million.

00:01:12.000 Every one of them million, six million, point four, we love them.

00:01:16.000 But we got to go on to Rumble to talk to Lee, Fangs for the memory.

00:01:21.000 Nice.

00:01:21.000 Fang about, and he's breaking a story on our show.

00:01:25.000 So this could be our most important show ever.

00:01:27.000 He's breaking a story, new Pfizer revelations about some Pfizer funding stuff that is going to knock your pants down around your ankles or possibly if you're in a comical mood, put them on top of your head.

00:01:39.000 No matter what the hygiene consequences of such an action should be.

00:01:43.000 We're talking about institutional corruption.

00:01:45.000 We're talking about nepotism.

00:01:48.000 Meaningful nepotism.

00:01:49.000 The kind of nepotism that leads a man, a certain little man called Joseph Jojo Biden, to possibly visit Ukraine to grease the wheels of his son's employment at Burisma Rhymes With Charisma Ukrainian gas company.

00:02:04.000 And this kind of nepotism exists throughout Congress because there's evidence of significant insider trading.

00:02:13.000 Allegedly.

00:02:13.000 Because just before that SVB, the Silicon Valley Bank, went down, guess whose kids were selling off their Silicon Valley Bank shares?

00:02:21.000 Or it's one of them other banks, actually.

00:02:23.000 Yes, you guessed it.

00:02:24.000 Elected, paid-for politicians that you pay for out of your taxi dollars.

00:02:30.000 Allegedly.

00:02:31.000 We'll be investigating that as well as getting Tucker on line one and feeding the dog.

00:02:35.000 A lot going on.

00:02:37.000 Okay, hey, look at the way that propaganda works.

00:02:38.000 This is brilliant, this is.

00:02:39.000 You'll see a story like this.

00:02:41.000 This is from the United Kingdom, which is where you get your language and where the Queen, God rest her soul, used to live until very recently.

00:02:48.000 This is, uh, Northern Railway asked passengers to stop watching porn on trains.

00:02:52.000 Now, you might think, perfectly reasonable request.

00:02:55.000 Yeah.

00:02:56.000 Don't watch pornography on a train.

00:02:58.000 Constantly look out the window.

00:02:59.000 Right.

00:03:00.000 Maybe make polite conversation.

00:03:02.000 Yes. 0.98

00:03:03.000 Although actually I prefer, I'd rather they did watch porn than talk to me. 0.90

00:03:06.000 Maybe read a bit of the mainstream news or something. 0.60

00:03:08.000 Have a look at some mainstream media.

00:03:10.000 But I don't like small talk on a train, do you?

00:03:12.000 No.

00:03:12.000 I'd rather that they were engaged in pornography and the likely behavioral activity that accompanies pornography.

00:03:20.000 You know, I'd rather that than talk to someone.

00:03:22.000 Yeah, although I think there's people in our, what would be Congress in the United States, who were doing that in Parliament.

00:03:29.000 I think that's probably a bit... We have people in our Parliament doing that, yeah.

00:03:31.000 A bit more disrespectful, isn't it?

00:03:32.000 Well, look, at least they're not in transit, I suppose.

00:03:35.000 They're static in a parliamentary building.

00:03:37.000 But what we want to point out, it's not the puerility.

00:03:40.000 Of this story.

00:03:41.000 But the fact is, the fact that they'll use something that all of us will agree on.

00:03:45.000 We don't think that people should be watching pornography and engaging in the accompanying onanistic activity.

00:03:53.000 To legitimize.

00:03:54.000 Look at the last bit of it.

00:03:56.000 They've advised customers to refrain from searching offensive topics and inappropriate jokes.

00:04:03.000 Ah, and stop them from searching explicit material in bad language on their Wi-Fi.

00:04:08.000 So what this will become about is censorship.

00:04:10.000 Now I know this is a frivolous story, but sometimes you can see in a fragment the whole.

00:04:17.000 You can see in a fractal the way that these patterns repeat themselves.

00:04:20.000 Let's have a look at the kind of broader corruption that sits at the top of American politics power pyramids in the form Of lovely old Joe Biden, who's expected any second now to announce that he's going to be running again, even though mild perambulation for him seems like a challenge.

00:04:36.000 Let's see how the mainstream media are reporting on Joe Biden right now.

00:04:43.000 His re-election campaign as soon as tomorrow.

00:04:46.000 So, if he wins, America's oldest president could stay in office until he's 86 years old, and that may not sit well for a lot of Americans.

00:04:55.000 According to a new NBC News poll that shows 70% of Americans do not think Mr. Biden should run again, including 51% of Democrats.

00:05:04.000 Now, half of those who say he should not enter the 2024 race cite his age as a major reason why.

00:05:11.000 Major, minor, not a reason.

00:05:14.000 Not a reason is my favourite category of all of those things.

00:05:21.000 Hi, so like, oh yeah, this is like a quote on corruption that might be useful to you.

00:05:26.000 Have a look at this.

00:05:27.000 Like this is the quote about, you know, the broader corruption in this story.

00:05:30.000 Isn't there a Biden corruption headline?

00:05:33.000 Biden campaign blink and orchestrated Intel letter to discredit Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:05:37.000 That's the former head of the CIA revealed that he was strong armed by the Biden administration.

00:05:42.000 Into providing the letter with 50 CIA signatories that was used to underwrite the invalidity of the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:05:52.000 Have a look at this quote about corruption.

00:05:53.000 Have a look at it.

00:05:54.000 And the so-called political processes of fraud, our elected officials, like our bureaucratic functionaries, like even our judges, are largely the indentured servants of the commercial interest.

00:06:04.000 Now, this is where one story about a potentially corrupt President, I mean would you, let us know in the chat right now, if Joe Biden strong-armed the CIA into delegitimizing the Hunter Biden laptop story, would you call that corruption?

00:06:22.000 What about the stenographer that says that he heard Joe Biden and Hunter Biden chatting about the deal with Burisma and fracking and stuff?

00:06:31.000 Like we're starting now to accumulate a story of If not extraordinary corruption, it's appalling that it's not extraordinary.

00:06:37.000 It's the level of corruption that we accept within American politics, but politics in our country, the UK too.

00:06:43.000 It's an acceptance that really our political leaders are, broadly speaking, serving commercial interests because their personal interests align more with financial, commercial and corporate interests than with the interests of the electorate.

00:06:57.000 Let's have a look at the SVB story now and the number of Congress folk who sold shares around the time that that banking crisis took place.

00:07:07.000 So, have a look at this.

00:07:09.000 On March the 10th, Silicon Valley Bank collapses.

00:07:13.000 Also on March the 10th, children of Democratic representative Jared Moskowitz sell shares of Seacoast Banking Corporation worth $65,000 to $150,000 After Mr Moskowitz attended a bipartisan congressional briefing on the bank in Tumult.

00:07:30.000 Then the very next day... Three days later that is, yeah.

00:07:35.000 Pardon?

00:07:35.000 Three days later.

00:07:36.000 Seacoast banking shares fell by nearly 20%.

00:07:38.000 At least eight members of Congress or their close relatives sold shares of bank stocks in March.

00:07:44.000 Some members were buying bank shares during the volatility.

00:07:46.000 Talk us through this bit, Gareth.

00:07:48.000 Yeah so I mean this is the case so obviously what was going on at the time this example of Mr Moskowitz is after that congressional briefing obviously had insider knowledge I mean I guess it's allegedly but it seems pretty obvious.

00:07:59.000 You think that during the bipartisan congressional briefing.

00:08:03.000 You would imagine so.

00:08:04.000 They went listen we'll tell you something Seacoast Banking It's going to go down.

00:08:08.000 Those shares are going down.

00:08:09.000 Sell them!

00:08:10.000 Right.

00:08:11.000 But obviously it can work the other way as well.

00:08:13.000 So March 17th, Republican Representative Nicole Malliotakis buys shares of New York Community Bank Corp after private discussions with New York State Bank regulators.

00:08:22.000 Are you suggesting that that conversation with the New York State Bank regulators contained information that led Nicole Malliotakis to buy those shares?

00:08:33.000 Or could it just be a coincidence?

00:08:34.000 I mean, it could be a huge coincidence.

00:08:35.000 He has Chaps and bank regulators. 0.84

00:08:37.000 You know what that's put me in the mood for?

00:08:39.000 Acquisition of some chairs.

00:08:40.000 That's right, but everyone's selling those. 0.92

00:08:42.000 Oh yeah, you're right, it is probably a bit silly.

00:08:45.000 I'm gonna buy some though, on another hunch. 0.64

00:08:47.000 Right, another hunch.

00:08:48.000 So, two days later, New York Community Bancorp... There's more hunches in Congress than in Notre Dame Cathedral, baby!

00:08:54.000 Nice.

00:08:55.000 Thanks.

00:08:55.000 New York Community Bank Corp buys assets belonging to the failed Signature Bank, a deal that prompted its biggest share rally ever.

00:09:02.000 It never had a bigger one.

00:09:03.000 Yeah, so it doesn't matter whether they're buying or selling, they're making all the right choices over there in Congress.

00:09:08.000 Nepotism and corruption, systemic and institutional.

00:09:12.000 Well, how can we get it up For another four years of Octogenarian Joe knowing that it seems at least that he is corrupt.

00:09:22.000 That he used deep state facilities to crush a story that could prevent him from winning an election against Donald Trump.

00:09:22.000 Allegedly.

00:09:29.000 Allegedly.

00:09:30.000 And that also furthermore, what's more, That he's getting his son little deals over there in the Ukraine.

00:09:38.000 I mean, if it was Donald Trump, do you think the mainstream media, the NBCs, et cetera, will be reporting on this more?

00:09:43.000 Do you think they'll be saying, hold on a minute, Donald Trump took Don Jr., our friend over at Rumble, over to Ukraine, got him a gig with Burisma, and he's using the CIA to repress information that could be negative?

00:09:54.000 I mean, isn't...

00:09:55.000 Trump right now being hauled through the courts of New York City on the basis of a hush payment that came from potentially legal fees or campaign funding.

00:10:04.000 I know it's a sort of a complex legislative and bureaucratic case, but we all know that whatever they're saying really is to take Trump out of the race.

00:10:12.000 And what I'm saying to you is that whether it's Biden or Trump, As long as the systems and institutions remain as corrupt

00:10:18.000 as they are, and they sit on a bedrock of corruption, because look at that, it's normal.

00:10:22.000 During a three year period, nearly a fifth of federal lawmakers or their immediate family

00:10:26.000 bought or sold stocks or other securities that could have been affected by their legislative

00:10:31.000 work.

00:10:32.000 Essentially, insider trading.

00:10:34.000 People in Congress that have connections as a result of their job to certain stocks and

00:10:39.000 shares and corporations have been involved in sales on those very stocks and shares.

00:10:43.000 That means it's deep, deep in the institution, doesn't it, Gareth?

00:10:46.000 Yeah, it certainly does.

00:10:47.000 And obviously this is a situation at the moment where, especially with the Biden stuff that's

00:10:51.000 going on, is...

00:10:52.000 Things are coming out but there isn't transparency around it and this occurs at the same time as the Biden administration is poised to increase internet surveillance in response to those Pentagon papers that we have kind of talked about the last week or so and the restrict act that they're bringing.

00:11:06.000 There's all fun ways of censoring and shutting down discussions, shutting down truth when we're not able to glean any truth from the things that have been going on with it.

00:11:15.000 We're centralising authoritarianism at a time where we do not trust authority at all.

00:11:21.000 We believe in democracy here at Stay Free.

00:11:23.000 Freedom's what we believe in above all else.

00:11:23.000 Of course we do.

00:11:25.000 That's why we've been polling you like it's 19 bloody 99 with this question.

00:11:31.000 What needs to be stopped first?

00:11:32.000 Lobbyists trading money for government favours?

00:11:34.000 Members of Congress owning stocks and shares in the companies that they regulate and legislate?

00:11:38.000 Four, or against, government censorship on free speech.

00:11:41.000 Which of those three things, and I reckon in future we should put A, B, C, and make that look sort of nice and clear, you know, like sort of a clear thing, and look at the language a bit better.

00:11:50.000 A, B, C, sort of make it very clear.

00:11:52.000 Have we got some polling results on it right now that we can show?

00:11:55.000 Right now, 61% of you are concerned about free speech.

00:11:58.000 Well, that's good because we are on a free speech platform and we've got a free speech guest coming up.

00:12:03.000 Later, we're going to be talking to Lee Fang, one of the Twitterphile legends, I'm calling him.

00:12:07.000 Yeah.

00:12:08.000 Those brave, proud journalists.

00:12:09.000 Did you see Tim Robbins' tweet about this?

00:12:12.000 Tim Robbins, a proud, lifelong Democrat.

00:12:14.000 Such a Democrat.

00:12:15.000 Let's find that quote.

00:12:16.000 Such a proud Democrat that he was openly ridiculed in that film, Team America.

00:12:21.000 No, you know, No, because he was one of those ones that's always at the forefront, lobbying for campaign.

00:12:26.000 And his Rumble interview of us, if you've not seen it yet, you should have a look at the whole thing.

00:12:29.000 It's up on Rumble right now.

00:12:31.000 He did an extremely aggressive tweet.

00:12:33.000 We don't have it physically as a graphic.

00:12:35.000 Nice one.

00:12:36.000 Thank you very much.

00:12:37.000 Listen to what Tim Robbins said.

00:12:39.000 Recently independent journalists like Matt Taibbi, Shellenberger and Barry Weiss have all been exposed in a massive censorship operation by the US government to control content on social media and eliminate any dissenting voices.

00:12:50.000 Have you read their reporting or are you listening to the embarrassed compromised hacks from the media that are covering their tracks?

00:12:57.000 I'm Tim.

00:12:57.000 Nice one.

00:12:58.000 could be the most important story related to our personal freedoms in the US and it's being buried.

00:13:02.000 Mainstream media have not only ignored the story but now attack the journalists,

00:13:05.000 effectively serving as a thuggish censorship arm of the government.

00:13:09.000 Meanwhile, then a bunch of politicians threaten journalist Matt Taibbi with jail time.

00:13:14.000 What an embarrassing, shameful time for the Democrats and the "free" press. 1.00

00:13:18.000 You are losing any shred of credibility you had, you effing fools. 0.99

00:13:21.000 And by the way, free Assange. 1.00

00:13:23.000 So there you go, Tim Robbins.

00:13:25.000 I think what's happening now is that there's a real movement for independence in American politics.

00:13:31.000 Let me know in the chat right now if you agree with this.

00:13:33.000 There's new emergent voices, even within mainstream politics.

00:13:36.000 Someone like Rand Paul, like a little while ago, Bernie Sanders, people were saying, And people like, I don't know, Robert Kennedy stand for President.

00:13:43.000 Do you think we should have him on the show, by the way?

00:13:45.000 Because I think we could have him as a guest.

00:13:46.000 Let's get him on.

00:13:47.000 But people are like, oh no, he's anti-vax and all that kind of stuff.

00:13:50.000 He's a lot of other things as well.

00:13:51.000 He's very much anti-war.

00:13:53.000 He's anti-war, he's anti-corruption.

00:13:54.000 He's a Kennedy!

00:13:56.000 He's a voice that we need!

00:13:57.000 Isn't he?

00:13:58.000 Is he?

00:13:59.000 Well, I think we should talk to him.

00:14:00.000 Do you want him on?

00:14:01.000 Well, he is more than any of us.

00:14:01.000 People do.

00:14:03.000 Alex Overton, Overton Window.

00:14:04.000 Yes, says Ginny Phoenix, I think.

00:14:06.000 Of course, I'm not that... I've got not got good eyes.

00:14:09.000 Right there.

00:14:09.000 But another one of the voices that's taking people to task is Rand Paul.

00:14:15.000 Rand Paul.

00:14:16.000 In a minute, we're going to be talking about the pharmaceutical industry very seriously with Lee Fangs for the memory fang.

00:14:21.000 Right, well he's going to make a revelation about Pfizer and Pfizer's expenditure that's going to knock you on your bottom.

00:14:27.000 It's going to bend your bones, this one.

00:14:29.000 When you hear about what Pfizer have been doing with their money, it's fascinating.

00:14:33.000 We couldn't say it on YouTube, it's too controversial.

00:14:35.000 You want to get rid of that tattoo?

00:14:37.000 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you're going to be getting here.

00:14:38.000 Cover it up! 0.99

00:14:39.000 Get ready for that, getting pinged off your little old body as quick as an ex-wife. 1.00

00:14:44.000 I reckon that, yeah, you're going to love that story, but let's have a look at Rand Paul exposing, if that's the right word, some of the ludicrous expenditure that the pharmaceutical industry lays out on experiments that I don't think are worth undertaking.

00:14:58.000 Listen to this.

00:15:00.000 My most recent report uncovered $482 billion in government waste.

00:15:05.000 For example, NIH spent more than 1.1 million to get mice drunk.

00:15:12.000 How much do mice drink?

00:15:15.000 For God's sake, they can really handle their booze, the mice.

00:15:18.000 Apparently we're not aware of what happens when you drink too much.

00:15:22.000 2.3 million dollars to inject six-month-old beagle puppies with cocaine.

00:15:26.000 Apparently there's not enough evidence of what happens to humans on cocaine.

00:15:30.000 So the beagles, they could have sniffed that.

00:15:33.000 Right.

00:15:33.000 As well, because injecting it's not an effective, it is effective, I mean economically effective, don't do drugs, drugs are bad.

00:15:40.000 But I'm talking purely in the context of these scientific experimentations which are taking place that Rand Paul's talking about.

00:15:46.000 The beagles, if you put it on another beagle's bum, they would sniff that up.

00:15:50.000 Would that be your way of achieving it?

00:15:53.000 I've got to say, if you were a scientist, obviously we all know you are one.

00:15:56.000 In a way I am a scientist!

00:15:58.000 If I was down at the labs, living it up in Wuhan, where we're pretty lax in our lab in Wuhan, I'd go, pop a couple of G's on that beagle's body, because I got a hunch that some science is going to happen around here.

00:16:12.000 Aren't you being paid for that?

00:16:14.000 Several billion dollars.

00:16:15.000 I'm going to need taxpayer dollars for that, whether you like it or not.

00:16:18.000 You don't get to vote.

00:16:19.000 Mind your own business.

00:16:20.000 Fauci decide what happened with them dollar bills.

00:16:23.000 And let's see what the magical third is.

00:16:25.000 So we've got a drunk mice, coked up beagles. 0.98

00:16:28.000 Also, though, three million dollars to watch hamsters fight on steroids.

00:16:34.000 That's how much you'd be willing to pay to see it.

00:16:37.000 I mean, which one of those?

00:16:39.000 So we've got another poll for you.

00:16:40.000 We're running two polls simultaneously.

00:16:42.000 What do you want to see more of with your taxpayer dollars?

00:16:45.000 Mice getting drunk, drugs, drugged up beagles, even if they're being inefficiently administered intravenously when they could be administered nasally, which I think is how more people do cocaine.

00:16:56.000 I would endorse that.

00:16:58.000 Perk drugs are bad and I'm, as you know, drug free.

00:17:01.000 Or do you want to see some steroided up hamsters brawling? 1.00

00:17:05.000 A lot of people are saying roided hamster cage fighting.

00:17:08.000 That's what Rogue Nation is saying.

00:17:10.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:17:11.000 Almost as if it was well spent.

00:17:12.000 Some people say that's cruel to animals and not to do any of it.

00:17:15.000 That's an interesting perspective.

00:17:17.000 That's an interesting perspective.

00:17:18.000 Nearly, I would say, not a solid majority.

00:17:21.000 A lot of you are going for the hamsters.

00:17:22.000 A lot of you want to see the little drunk mice though, to see what they're like.

00:17:28.000 I don't know what they're like.

00:17:29.000 Yeah.

00:17:30.000 Okay.

00:17:30.000 Hey, listen, we're going to flip over now to being exclusively on Rumble because we've got Lee Fang coming up.

00:17:37.000 Now, Lee Fang is one of the Twitterphile legends that Tim Robbins vocally advocates for.

00:17:42.000 Lee Fang has been doing actual journalism, revealing the relationship between the Deep State and social media organizations.

00:17:51.000 Lee Fang, is investigating pharmaceutical companies.

00:17:54.000 Li Fang is doing what journalists are supposed to do, convey difficult, challenging, truthful information

00:18:00.000 to the rest of us so that we can make informed decisions for ourselves rather than being deluged in untruths,

00:18:07.000 censored to within an inch of our lives and surveilled all the way to Belmarsh.

00:18:13.000 So we're going to leave you now because there's a lot of stuff that Lee Fang's going to say and this is an exclusive conversation with Lee.

00:18:17.000 I believe he's about to simultaneously release the article on Substack in an exciting moment.

00:18:22.000 Very exciting on the day that Tucker resigns.

00:18:24.000 I'm going to call Tucker again.

00:18:25.000 Lots of exclusives today.

00:18:26.000 It's a very exclusive day.

00:18:27.000 Almost everything's excluded.

00:18:29.000 Nothing's in here.

00:18:31.000 So goodbye YouTube.

00:18:33.000 Goodbye.

00:18:33.000 We love you.

00:18:34.000 Rumble join us to join us here. 0.98

00:18:37.000 So please welcome to the show.

00:18:38.000 It's Lee Fang independent journalist who worked on Twitter files He now writes an investigative newsletter on substack and he's the author of the machine a field guide to the resurgent riot Thanks for joining us Lee.

00:18:49.000 It's great to see you, mate I'm humbled by the intro.

00:18:52.000 It's really good to be with you.

00:18:53.000 Oh, thank you.

00:18:54.000 Thank you for your humility and your grace.

00:18:57.000 Mate, we want to start with the exclusive story.

00:19:00.000 As I understand it, Pfizer are attempting to sort of set up grassroots organizations that are lobbying for COVID vaccine mandates.

00:19:08.000 I'm sure I'm mangling that somewhat, but it sounds like Pfizer are spending money to create apparently authentic voices advocating for vaccine mandates.

00:19:16.000 Is that what's happening, Lee Fang?

00:19:19.000 Well, look, this story basically takes a look in 2021, when in the United States, we had multifaceted mandates, you know, mandates enacted by I live in California and San Francisco, there were very restrictive mandates here.

00:19:33.000 But you know, across the country, including the Biden administration, in September of 2021, enacted a very kind of strong mandate with no exemption for prior immunity, or, you know, kind of natural immunity or prior infection, natural immunity.

00:19:50.000 And, you know, Pfizer was not playing a kind of visible role here.

00:19:54.000 They didn't comment on any of the articles.

00:19:57.000 They weren't really talking to the press.

00:19:59.000 You saw consumer groups, civil rights groups, patient groups, doctor groups, you know, public health organizations all saying, you know, these mandates are necessary.

00:20:09.000 even though there wasn't a lot of scientific evidence to support the basis that, you know,

00:20:14.000 we needed these mandates, that, you know, they were sold to us with the claim

00:20:18.000 that they would stop transmission of the virus, you had this coalition of community groups

00:20:23.000 saying, "We need the mandate."

00:20:25.000 Well, I'm taking a look at new disclosures that show that many of those organizations, these third-party organizations with a lot more credibility than a pharmaceutical company with a lot of money to gain, were taking funds from Pfizer while lobbying for these controversial policies.

00:20:43.000 So I list them out.

00:20:44.000 I talked to a lot of experts.

00:20:45.000 Just a story I just published right before coming onto your show on my sub stack.

00:20:49.000 We're very excited to receive this exclusivity from you, Lee, and at the risk of diminishing your contribution, you're getting a lot of love in the chat.

00:20:58.000 Notably, Pride Folks, who says, simply, babe alert.

00:21:04.000 That's an objectifying comment, I believe, about your physical appearance, but we'll probably we'll get some more on that.

00:21:11.000 That's that's going to be coming up.

00:21:12.000 Exclusive.

00:21:13.000 Another exclusive. 0.66

00:21:14.000 Lee Fang is sexually attractive. 0.87

00:21:17.000 Let's have. 0.94

00:21:18.000 Yep.

00:21:18.000 No, there's more of it.

00:21:19.000 Oh, it's good.

00:21:19.000 No, it's getting quite rude now.

00:21:21.000 Stop that.

00:21:21.000 That's enough.

00:21:22.000 Oh, that's made me older!

00:21:24.000 Objective, yep, it's all happening.

00:21:26.000 So, can we have a look at this, some of the Pfizer lobbying stats?

00:21:29.000 We'll just talk you through this list, stuff that you'll obviously know.

00:21:32.000 Can you pull that for me?

00:21:34.000 Pfizer CEO Albert Baller is the treasurer of the Pharmaceutical Lobbying Group, Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America.

00:21:40.000 Pharma spent a total of $140 million over that, in fact, on lobbying between 2019 and 2022.

00:21:48.000 As well as the pharmaceutical industry being the largest single advertiser on mainstream media, 75% of all their ad revenue comes from the pharmaceutical industry, Lee.

00:21:57.000 So we're talking about an almost immersive omnipotence.

00:22:01.000 They've got power in every direction, as well as it appears as a result of your exclusive there, to be investing in apparently organic and authentic voices that are, you know, pro-mandate or pro What chance do we have of real democracy?

00:22:18.000 What chance do we have of legitimate open conversations when an organisation can exert that much power over that much of the machinery of the state whether it's media or government itself?

00:22:29.000 Well, look, you know, the figures you just cited were the ones that have to be disclosed, you know, that's when they hire, you know, a former member of Congress or a staffer to go and wine and dine, you know, a policymaker or regulator, they have to disclose most of that funding, that spending, but So much they don't have to disclose.

00:22:47.000 How much they're spending on television, how much they're spending on TikTok ads, how much they're giving to these front groups or these doctors groups or these public health groups that kind of set the nature of the debate.

00:22:58.000 They kind of appear in the news media, they create events, and they create a discourse that looks authentic, that looks organic.

00:23:06.000 but it benefits the bottom line of their benefactors of companies like Pfizer and you know, the

00:23:11.000 vaccine debate is, um, you know, I think it's fraught.

00:23:14.000 It's interesting because this has shaped our lives in the last three years of the pandemic.

00:23:18.000 Um, but it's, you know, it's also not that unique in the sense that every major pharmaceutical

00:23:23.000 company in the United States, uh, engages in these practices.

00:23:26.000 They, they, uh, pressure regulators, they, um, spend so much money on direct to consumer

00:23:31.000 advertising, uh, and really they kind of just dominate the entire public policy debate.

00:23:36.000 So, you know, we can talk about a lot of other special interest groups, but pharma is unique

00:23:41.000 in just the raw amounts of money they spend to control the entire public sector, uh, on

00:23:47.000 regulatory on, on policy on, on really everything in terms of, of, of how it affects medicine

00:23:53.000 and as it has, as it's practiced in the United States.

00:23:56.000 Lee Fang, what specific groups did they fund, mate?

00:24:01.000 Do any of them stand out as, does it seem particularly manipulative or deceptive?

00:24:07.000 Any of the groups that have like legitimacy or authenticity that is surprising?

00:24:12.000 Let's just talk about a few of them.

00:24:13.000 You know, in Chicago, there was a very kind of controversial vaccine mandate.

00:24:18.000 There were also discussions about vaccine passports.

00:24:22.000 And, you know, a large percentage of the African-American, the Black community in that city was not vaccinated in 2021.

00:24:29.000 And one of the oldest African-American civil rights groups, the Urban League, Chicago Urban League, went out into the media and was asked, you know, would this mandate hurt the African-American community?

00:24:42.000 Would it kind of push them to the sidelines?

00:24:44.000 And she was very clear in lobbying and pushing back against that, saying, no, the mandate's worth it.

00:24:50.000 It's worth it for our community.

00:24:52.000 She never mentioned that just prior to that interview, a few months prior to the interview, she received a $100,000 check from Pfizer, not mentioned during the interview, not mentioned on the Urban League's website.

00:25:04.000 It's not disclosed until this morning, until right before appearing on your show.

00:25:08.000 The Consumers League of America, I mean, this is another consumer advocacy group that's kind of famous for standing up to corporate power, founded over 100 years ago, fighting against monopolies.

00:25:20.000 They're a group that kind of mysteriously endorsed the mandates in 2021.

00:25:25.000 Again, they received big money from Pfizer and even has a Pfizer lobbyist on its board.

00:25:31.000 You know, these are intricate relationships that aren't disclosed to the people reading these press releases who are getting pressured by these groups, and it's affecting the entire debate.

00:25:39.000 It's affecting how regulators see these issues, and it also affects how the public sees this.

00:25:44.000 when they see these third party groups that have some credibility, you know,

00:25:48.000 these are kind of famous organizations that are known for standing up for the

00:25:51.000 public interest when they're saying, Hey, these mandates are a good idea for the American public. It

00:25:56.000 seems genuine.

00:25:57.000 They're just not disclosing the Pfizer money, which I think, you know,

00:26:00.000 is a relevant factor here when you're talking about a policy that compels

00:26:03.000 Americans to take this product.

00:26:05.000 Yeah. I think that should be at the beginning of the endorsement of as I,

00:26:10.000 African American people should take these vaccines. 1.00

00:26:13.000 Also, earlier, a minute ago actually, I just got $100,000 from Pfizer who I think they do sell vaccines and they would potentially financially benefit.

00:26:22.000 If it can't be explicit, you can't have democracy.

00:26:26.000 I think what the danger we have now, Lee, is we've reached the point where there's such mass distrust in government, mass distrust and mistrust of media, and there seems to be no attempt to rectify that through authenticity and morality and principled action, but through the increase of censorship, through the increase of control.

00:26:51.000 With Matt Taibbi, your mate, your fellow Twitterphile journalist, he's being threatened with jail now, I understand, and I don't know how much traction that's got, and I pray that it isn't something that would happen.

00:27:05.000 Matt Taibbi's a friend of ours, we love him, the croaky-voiced, drum-kit-perched, cap-wearing, so-called journalist sweetheart that he is.

00:27:15.000 Do you worry yourself that we're reaching a point that free speech is actually something that you could be in prison for?

00:27:23.000 If you're Julian Assange, you're already in prison for it.

00:27:27.000 I mean, I've looked at, I've covered Congress for the last 15 years.

00:27:31.000 I've never seen anything like this.

00:27:32.000 And there are a lot of experts and people brought in to testify.

00:27:38.000 Uh, who mislead, who get the facts wrong, who, you know, they engage in all kinds of kind of scurrilous behavior.

00:27:44.000 And I've never seen behavior like this in terms of a member of Congress in response.

00:27:48.000 And Matt Taibbi, for the record, I don't know if your audience has seen this letter.

00:27:53.000 I exclusively obtained it and published it last week on my sub stack.

00:27:57.000 But after testifying on March 9th, Matt Taibbi had a back and forth

00:28:02.000 with one of the members of Congress, Democrat named Stacey Plaskett.

00:28:06.000 She's the one who called her, Taibbi and Schellenberger, a so-called journal.

00:28:11.000 You know, very aggressive kind of questioning.

00:28:15.000 But, you know, that's par for the course in politics.

00:28:17.000 You know, you can get aggressive with a witness.

00:28:19.000 What's unusual is this letter afterwards that took a quote from Matt Tybee saying that an arm of the Department of Homeland Security had worked with one of these disinfo NGOs that's, you know, partially backed by Stanford University as they were pressuring Twitter on content moderation policies.

00:28:38.000 Uh, that Twitter did not distinguish between the private sector and the public sector when they were receiving these censorship requests.

00:28:45.000 That was the entire quote.

00:28:47.000 Baskett is threatening prison for that quote.

00:28:49.000 That wasn't 100% accurate.

00:28:50.000 You know, I published more emails.

00:28:52.000 There's tons of comments.

00:28:53.000 Everyone who's been reporting and looking at these internal Twitter files sees it.

00:28:56.000 It's the FBI.

00:28:57.000 It's the arm of the DHS called CISA.

00:29:00.000 All these government agencies that are exerting incredible levels of pressure on social media firms, including today, although we don't have the same kind of purview, the same kind of visibility that we had under the Twitter files.

00:29:12.000 But it's certainly happening to other platforms as well, including Discord and Facebook and others.

00:29:17.000 Um, but yeah, I've never seen this letter taking a true quote, an accurate quote from Matt Taibbi and saying this was an example of perjury that you could face up to five years of imprisonment for, for telling the truth.

00:29:30.000 It's extraordinary.

00:29:31.000 It's also true, I understand, that Facebook have been censoring Seymour Hershey's reporting on the Nord Stream pipeline.

00:29:38.000 This value of free speech, according to our poll, let's have another look at that poll.

00:29:41.000 I think a lot of our audience are deeply concerned about free speech and it seems that the free speech argument is increasingly being connected, I think, through centralised media narratives with, you know, right-wing extremism.

00:29:57.000 And it seems that there's an attempt to, yeah here it is, like 60% of our audience that we're currently polling say that free speech is the issue that concerns the most out of a whole bunch of significant little issues there.

00:30:10.000 Do you think that we're reaching some kind of tipping point where credible, lifelong Pulitzer Prize winning journalists like Seymour Hersh are being sort of shut down and censored?

00:30:21.000 What do you think, how do you think, do you think there's like new alliances that we can make to ensure that we can continue to speak free Well, look, you know, I grew up in the Washington, D.C.

00:30:30.000 area, in the suburbs, Prince Rudy's County, and the war in Iraq kind of radicalized me and motivated me to get involved in media and politics, just seeing kind of the entire mainstream media basically in lockstep repeating the Bush administration's drive to go to war and their claims about weapons of mass destruction and a war on terror.

00:30:51.000 And I, you know, I had such Great hopes for the promise of the open internet as a corrective to government censorship, that with more voices, we'd have a better chance of getting to the truth, especially when it comes to these life and death foreign policy issues.

00:31:05.000 I mean, there's nothing bigger.

00:31:07.000 And the war in Ukraine is kind of an example of how I was wrong.

00:31:12.000 The internet is quickly becoming different.

00:31:16.000 We're getting organized into little walled gardens.

00:31:18.000 We're getting pushed into just a small number of platforms.

00:31:21.000 Those platforms are coordinating with government, and they're attempting to squelch the truth.

00:31:26.000 At the same time, we have Um, uh, you know, because of these big social media firms draining the advertising revenue from legacy newspapers, we just have less journalists too.

00:31:36.000 So it's, it's all bad.

00:31:37.000 Um, you know, I did a story last year looking at how, um, a whistleblower from the Department of Homeland Security basically told us that, um, the Department of Homeland Security, their next big agenda item is working with social media companies to correct quote unquote disinformation, uh, about the war in Ukraine, Russia.

00:31:59.000 You know, we see a lot of war propaganda.

00:32:01.000 We see a lot of claims about, you know, the readiness of Ukraine or, you know, what have you about Russia.

00:32:07.000 But there's not a lot of independent reporting.

00:32:08.000 There's not a lot of skeptical reporting.

00:32:11.000 We need more voices.

00:32:12.000 But how do you reach those voices if we're only on a few platforms and those platforms are coordinating with the government to squelch out voices of dissent?

00:32:22.000 Yeah, we've been talking a lot about the restrict act that appears to be being sort of caressed into the public debate.

00:32:31.000 What was that public news article we read, Gareth?

00:32:33.000 I want to say Leighton Baines, but I know he's a former Everton left back.

00:32:37.000 Leighton Woodhouse.

00:32:38.000 Leighton Woodhouse.

00:32:39.000 Yeah, Leighton Baines won't be writing about that.

00:32:41.000 He'll be focusing much more on coming out from the back, ball playing left back.

00:32:44.000 Brilliant player, actually.

00:32:46.000 But Leighton Woodhouse was talking about how in order to legitimise censorship, you have to create the problem of misinformation, disinformation, malinformation.

00:32:56.000 Because without it now, there are too many independent voices, too much capacity for investigation.

00:33:02.000 It's for one narrative to dominate in the way that it could have done sort of, you know, before the advent of these technologies.

00:33:09.000 So while there was sort of briefly this utopian possibility of free speech, open communication, thorough investigation, it's being, you can see now, it's being sort of legislated against.

00:33:21.000 There's smear campaigns against independent voices.

00:33:24.000 People are being threatened with prison.

00:33:26.000 It's unprecedented and extraordinary.

00:33:29.000 Do you think that this Restrict Act, which we had explained to us is like the Patriot Act after 9-11.

00:33:37.000 It's like using, for example, the recent Pentagon Papers to underwrite this censorial legislation.

00:33:45.000 Do you think this is the sort of thing that will go through, mate?

00:33:48.000 Well, just again to compare to the War on Terror and Bush administration, they used the claim that, you know, you were in league with terrorists, you know, you were a jihadi or whatever, to polarize the debate, to, you know, stigmatize any voices of dissent.

00:34:03.000 We see that again today.

00:34:04.000 You know, we just have a different vocabulary, a different kind of cultural moment.

00:34:08.000 You know, we say that someone is hateful, they're, you know, spreading hate speech, they're an extremist, or they're spreading disinformation or malinformation.

00:34:16.000 You know, obviously no one supports intentional misinformation or intentional hate, but these attempts to stigmatize whistleblowers or journalists with these kind of classifications to marginalize them, it's emotionally arresting.

00:34:33.000 You know, that's the kind of language you use to push someone to the side and say, don't listen to them and censor them.

00:34:39.000 That's what the government's doing.

00:34:40.000 That's what these government funded NGOs are doing.

00:34:42.000 There's a whole network.

00:34:44.000 of organizations that are part of this. Even for me, I launched my Substack, I went independent

00:34:49.000 for the first time in nine years, and with my first story out the gate, I had an MSNBC host

00:34:57.000 saying that I was just writing about the Department of Homeland Security, accusing me of being a

00:35:01.000 bigot or something. This is the strategy for marginalizing independent voices of dissent.

00:35:08.000 Lee, I'm really glad that you've moved to Substack.

00:35:12.000 We recommend that everyone who follows our work follows Lee Fang.

00:35:17.000 He's a fantastic journalist and if you were willing to introduce perhaps photographs of yourself with your top off or just some Bermuda shorts.

00:35:25.000 I think you might gain more followers.

00:35:27.000 That's just advice based on what are some of the things I'm seeing in the chat here from our locals community that people can join to essentially objectify our guests.

00:35:36.000 Lee, thank you for joining us and providing people that are sexually attracted to men with some free midday pornography.

00:35:44.000 Even though we did a story today about people masturbating on public transport from the perspective of it wasn't a good thing. 0.96

00:35:51.000 I wonder how they feel about masturbating to Lee's sub stack. 0.52

00:35:54.000 Let's do a poll on do you think it's acceptable to masturbate over Lee Fang's sub-stack imagery of him in his vacation wear, or do you think that's wrong? 0.89

00:36:05.000 We'll do a poll on that, Lee, and we'll send you the results, and perhaps you can do an article on that.

00:36:09.000 Well, you've got to be the top-level tier for that, but like and subscribe, you know. 0.99

00:36:14.000 You've got to paywall that shit, Lee! 1.00

00:36:16.000 Paywall that! 1.00

00:36:18.000 All right, Lee, thanks for joining us, mate.

00:36:19.000 It's fantastic to speak to you.

00:36:22.000 Thanks so much.

00:36:22.000 I appreciate it, Russell.

00:36:23.000 Fantastic guest.

00:36:24.000 Thank you so much, mate.

00:36:25.000 There you go.

00:36:26.000 Lee Fang there.

00:36:27.000 Finally, Lee Fang.

00:36:29.000 Wasn't he great?

00:36:30.000 Worth waiting for.

00:36:31.000 Thanks for the memories.

00:36:32.000 Was that the... Thanks for being so sexy.

00:36:34.000 Right.

00:36:35.000 That's what I say to Lee Fang.

00:36:36.000 They love him in there.

00:36:37.000 I'm not surprised.

00:36:38.000 He should be a regular contributor.

00:36:40.000 Why don't he take down his trousers and pants?

00:36:40.000 Agreed.

00:36:42.000 Did they say that?

00:36:43.000 I like a slappy little laugh.

00:36:45.000 This is you at this point, isn't it?

00:36:46.000 I want to kiss Lee Fang.

00:36:48.000 So what if I'm married to Laura Brand?

00:36:50.000 Hold on, that's weird.

00:36:53.000 That one didn't make sense.

00:36:54.000 Behave, said Alex Overton-Window.

00:36:57.000 Yep, look at that.

00:36:57.000 People, once your photos are online, we can do what we want with them.

00:37:00.000 Some people saying simply stop.

00:37:03.000 Some people are saying Gareth is sexier.

00:37:05.000 That's from Brooklyn M. Do we need a competition though?

00:37:09.000 A sex contest?

00:37:11.000 No we don't because that's not what we're about here as a matter of fact.

00:37:14.000 We're trying to awaken people.

00:37:14.000 Don't get distracted.

00:37:16.000 Don't even start up this.

00:37:18.000 A couple of guys with a dream to end up in a sex contest.

00:37:22.000 Or did we?

00:37:23.000 Maybe we did.

00:37:24.000 Maybe we did do that.

00:37:26.000 But before we move into the hot world of sex contests, That seems to be the end of the show now, I think.

00:37:34.000 Oh, I'm quite hungry.

00:37:35.000 Okay, it's the end of the show.

00:37:36.000 I've got to go get some dinner.

00:37:38.000 Alright, join us tomorrow on Rumble.

00:37:40.000 I'm going to get some dinner now.

00:37:41.000 Hope you're all alright.

00:37:42.000 Love you.

00:37:43.000 And yeah, post your questions for RFK.

00:37:45.000 We'll get him on.

00:37:46.000 We'll get him on.

00:37:47.000 And I'll see if Tucker's responded.

00:37:48.000 Oh no, what's this from Lee Fang?

00:37:50.000 Lee Fang, you very much!

00:37:54.000 See you tomorrow!

00:37:56.000 Not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

00:37:57.000 Ta-ta! 0.99

00:37:59.000 Switch on.

00:38:01.000 Switch on.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - April 25, 2023

Lee Fang (Exclusive: Exposing Pfizer)

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