Stay Free - Russel Brand - Len McCluskey (New Political Movements)

00:00:00.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:01.000 Thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:04.000 We've got an amazing show today.

00:00:05.000 We're going to be talking to you about yet more documents that Biden has concealed, and also beyond the documents themselves, the very notion that the powerful have access to Clandestine material that we have to be protected from, when in the most recent case in history, the revelations say from WikiLeaks and Daniel Hale, usually that information is not about stuff that would make you incredibly happy and compliant if you had access to it.

00:00:35.000 We're going to be talking about Trump's reaction to Biden's documents, which is brilliant.

00:00:40.000 He hones in on some really odd details.

00:00:42.000 The US indeed are sending tanks to Ukraine.

00:00:45.000 If you're watching this on YouTube now, stay with us.

00:00:48.000 We stay on YouTube for about 10 minutes because we want access to you.

00:00:51.000 We want to tell you the truth.

00:00:52.000 But after about 10 minutes, we go over to Rumble.

00:00:55.000 Explicitly, exclusively, because we're going to talk about stuff that you cannot talk about on this platform.

00:01:01.000 In this instance, we're talking about the NIH's poor oversight of COVID research that was taking place in Wuhan exactly at the same time.

00:01:10.000 Well, that doesn't mean... That doesn't mean anything.

00:01:13.000 It doesn't mean anything.

00:01:14.000 It doesn't mean anything.

00:01:15.000 Coincidence, I think.

00:01:16.000 In a, like, it's a sliding doors moment.

00:01:19.000 It has set a series of coincidences and unfortunate events for the NIH.

00:01:22.000 There's just been revelations about the NIH perhaps not tracking or observing protocols during, at the Wuhan Institute of Virology at the time.

00:01:31.000 That doesn't mean anything.

00:01:33.000 We're also going to be looking at Zelensky's love letter to US corporations.

00:01:37.000 It's extraordinary if you're an anti-establishment, anti-corporatist person, whether you're from the left or right, to see someone, list corporations like BlackRock and JP Morgan with such

00:01:51.000 reverence and optimism. But before we get into any of that, perhaps we should look at that

00:01:58.000 delicious little army of robot dogs that are preparing now for the moments when you rise

00:02:03.000 up en masse against your corrupt government and the globalist corporate movement. Don't

00:02:09.000 worry about anything because there's is just a robot dog army being prepared to bring down dissenters.

00:02:18.000 Let's have a look at those little guys.

00:02:20.000 Music being added.

00:02:28.000 Sure, I hope so.

00:02:29.000 They can't be working out for that.

00:02:30.000 It really is terrifying.

00:02:31.000 Do you think there's one little robot dog that sort of just don't fit in?

00:02:34.000 And it could be a Pixar movie.

00:02:36.000 Yeah, the Russell Brown dog.

00:02:37.000 Oh God, what are we supposed to be doing?

00:02:39.000 We're a dystopian robot army.

00:02:40.000 I don't fit in round here.

00:02:42.000 Like when you were in the Marines for a day.

00:02:44.000 I was a good Marine, gal.

00:02:45.000 I put my Marine Corps, what do you call them?

00:02:48.000 Your troop.

00:02:50.000 My buddies, my pals in the Marines.

00:02:52.000 Yeah, I was in the Marines for a day.

00:02:53.000 It was a difficult time.

00:02:54.000 The assault course was difficult.

00:02:55.000 I went through a lot of things emotionally.

00:02:57.000 I respect the Marines, that I'll tell you, but I struggled to be one.

00:03:04.000 You may be disillusioned with Joe Biden. 0.99

00:03:07.000 God love him, the cadaverous, juddering, shuddering, half-asleep, dopey old sausage. 0.97

00:03:12.000 And occasionally, it's a joy to see Trump talk in that peculiarly human and odd manner that only He does. 0.94

00:03:20.000 In this instance, he's talking about Biden's endless docs, I suppose, as part of his campaign to make America great again, again, again, again, again, again in 2024, potentially against Ron DeSantis.

00:03:31.000 Who's going to win?

00:03:32.000 In that battle of those two colossi of the right.

00:03:32.000 No.

00:03:36.000 Let's have a look at him talking about the documents.

00:03:39.000 I love this.

00:03:41.000 We have two standards of justice in our country.

00:03:44.000 One for people like you and me, and one for the corrupt political class. 1.00

00:03:49.000 What I like about that is that Donald Trump has put himself in a category.

00:03:54.000 I sometimes feel like I'm pushing it a bit.

00:03:57.000 Ordinary people like us, because I'm a bit weird, I wear strange stuff.

00:04:01.000 I'm unusual, I'm peculiar, but I am basically a normal bloke from Essex who's been in Hollywood for a bit and now I'm on the internet.

00:04:08.000 Donald Trump, he's different from everyone in the whole world.

00:04:10.000 There's no one else that's like Donald Trump.

00:04:12.000 He's a very particular individual.

00:04:14.000 Even in the Trump family, Trump stands out.

00:04:16.000 Even when he's got them other Trumps around him, who adore him.

00:04:19.000 Even that new Trump, Barron Trump, it's all sort of the long hair Trump.

00:04:23.000 You see that guy walking down the street, you're going to notice him, aren't you?

00:04:27.000 There's an extraordinary array of colours and peculiarities and idiosyncrasies that draw the eye.

00:04:31.000 This is not even a partisan view of him.

00:04:33.000 He's not blending in. You see that guy walking down the street, you're gonna notice him,

00:04:38.000 aren't you? There's an extraordinary array of sort of colours and peculiarities and idiosyncrasies

00:04:44.000 that draw the eye. This is not even a parzan view of him, it's just him as a sort of a unique

00:04:51.000 creature. There are many.

00:04:54.000 At the very same moment when my ultra-secure Mar-a-Lago home was raided by the FBI.

00:05:00.000 Even when he talks about Mar-a-Lago, he's bigging up the security of Mar-a-Lago.

00:05:06.000 Everything about him is hyperbole.

00:05:08.000 Everything about him is superlative.

00:05:09.000 He talks only in extremes.

00:05:11.000 It's almost suggesting that those files would be more secure at his home.

00:05:15.000 Better there.

00:05:16.000 You should keep all the other files there.

00:05:18.000 That'd be alright there.

00:05:19.000 Keep Julian Assange, most secure home in America.

00:05:22.000 Beautifully secure.

00:05:23.000 Julian Assange, keep him by the swimming pool.

00:05:25.000 Edward Snowden, he's hit by putting range.

00:05:29.000 Joe Biden was harboring classified documents in his China-funded Penn Center and his unsecured garage.

00:05:37.000 Right on the floor, piles of paper.

00:05:40.000 The floor was probably very wet and damp, as many garages are.

00:05:44.000 That's amazing.

00:05:45.000 Conjecture on the floor.

00:05:48.000 Like now we've gone from a matter of international security down to whether or not he's got rising damp in his carriage, whether he needs lagging, he should consider some lagging.

00:06:00.000 He needs to insulate that space before keeping classified documents in there.

00:06:04.000 You don't miss a trick does he? Like Mar-a-Lago's super secure, his

00:06:08.000 garages are locked up, it's probably them. Red's in there, Hunter's old pornography. Like he

00:06:14.000 really like makes, he paints vivid images.

00:06:17.000 Like that's why whenever you see Biden communicating it seems particularly lacklustre.

00:06:23.000 Specifically I think when Biden in the mode, modality and timbre of an ordinary politician

00:06:29.000 is making pledges upon which you know he will later renege.

00:06:33.000 Prior to this conflict in Ukraine, he outlined specifically and deliberately the impossibility of military equipment being sent to Ukraine because it would be, literally verbatim in his words, World War 3.

00:06:46.000 Here he is saying that.

00:06:48.000 That's, look, Look, the idea, the idea that we're going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews.

00:07:01.000 Planes though, as well.

00:07:02.000 I mean, anyone thought Thomas the Tank Engine was going to go to Ukraine?

00:07:05.000 No one's asked for trains, surely?

00:07:07.000 Who wants that? 1.00

00:07:07.000 That's complicated. 1.00

00:07:08.000 You've got to lay the tracks, the rails.

00:07:10.000 No one's talking about planes, trains, automobiles.

00:07:12.000 That's John Candy, Steve Martin.

00:07:14.000 Tanks, evidently tanks are back in vogue.

00:07:17.000 Everyone's talking about them now.

00:07:19.000 Just understand, don't kid yourself, no matter what you all say, that's called World War Three.

00:07:27.000 Leaned into the mic, the mic's popping, the mic's feeding back on that.

00:07:29.000 World War Three.

00:07:32.000 So how are we being asked to forget that framing of just a couple of years ago? Why

00:07:38.000 are we being expected to understand the war is only beginning at their sanctioned commencement

00:07:46.000 date? It's an extraordinary piece of storytelling, but directly next to that, let's look at

00:07:52.000 the actual delivery of military equipment.

00:07:55.000 Today I'm announcing that the United States will be sending 31 Abram tanks to Ukraine.

00:08:00.000 Oh, OK then.

00:08:02.000 Well, are there going to be some trains also?

00:08:07.000 Yeah, I guess he just never stands up well against Trump when it comes to pure oratory.

00:08:14.000 No, because Trump would have found a way for that to sound like Trump was doing the good thing.

00:08:18.000 I mean, the way that he described those documents, essentially all the news at the start, certainly the, say, CNN news, was about how Biden's documents just wasn't as serious as Trump's.

00:08:29.000 Trump's, like, managed to flip that with one little phrase about how secure Mar-a-Lago is.

00:08:35.000 He'd have probably done the same with the trains and the tanks.

00:08:37.000 Yeah, he would have made that sound better.

00:08:39.000 Did you see the mainstream media talking about how many documents Joe Biden actually has?

00:08:46.000 It's like a...

00:08:47.000 Look, Gareth, try and think of a way of visualising a number of documents, and I want you to do this at home as well, and let us know in the chat and the comments.

00:08:53.000 If you're watching this on YouTube, stay with us, but remember, click over to Rumble in a minute when we start talking about that NIH story and the sort of origins of the thing that must not be discussed.

00:09:02.000 Let's look now at the mainstream media offering us the opportunity to envisage, using analogy and metaphor, the sheer amount Of files Biden has.

00:09:14.000 How do you want to see it?

00:09:14.000 Do you want to see it as like a tub of files?

00:09:17.000 A vat of files?

00:09:18.000 A cathedral of files?

00:09:20.000 How should we envisage it?

00:09:21.000 We now have new information on the bulk of documents that Joe Biden donated to his alma mater, the University of Delaware.

00:09:28.000 According to lawyers representing the parties who are trying to get to these documents, there are 1,850 boxes and 415 gigabytes of electronic records consisting of the so-called Biden records.

00:09:42.000 The documents are said to fill up two tractor-trailer trucks.

00:09:46.000 It's a really odd tongue twister because she sounds like she could do... That's not a sentence she should be tackling.

00:09:53.000 Two trailer tractor trucks full of Biden documents!

00:09:57.000 Yeah, that sounds like a warm-up you would do before you go on air.

00:10:00.000 It's a vocal warm-up!

00:10:01.000 Two toads totally tired of trying to track the trailer trucks! 0.56

00:10:06.000 But the thing is, is that even in spite of this escalating conflict, there is still more chance of us dying of climate change as opposed to nuclear war.

00:10:18.000 That's what Biden claims.

00:10:20.000 Global warming is a bigger threat to humanity than nuclear war.

00:10:23.000 I'm not sure about right now.

00:10:25.000 In the immediate, you wouldn't think.

00:10:27.000 I'm not like, when I was a teenager, I didn't fall asleep at night thinking, oh no, it's getting hotter and hotter, sea levels are going to rise, ultimately.

00:10:35.000 This is, in a sense, something that you have to hold in your consciousness, along with solar flares, the inevitability of death.

00:10:46.000 Nuclear war is so immediate, so impulsive, so easy to connect to the kind of emotional tunes of rage, conflict, greed and mendacity that you continually hear being played.

00:10:59.000 For me, it feels like a much more vivid phrase.

00:11:01.000 I mean, let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments, what are you more concerned about Right now.

00:11:06.000 Right now.

00:11:07.000 Listen, if you're watching this on YouTube, click over and join us on Rumble.

00:11:11.000 We've got a fantastic guest coming up talking about new global movements, the CIA spying on politicians in our country, Britain, as well as your own, and the necessity for new communities and organisations if we're ever ever going to stand up to elite, centralised, globalist

00:11:28.000 forces. So join us in a minute.

00:11:30.000 Also we're going to be talking about that NIH story, about the protocols and breaches

00:11:34.000 of security and just basic hygiene and safety that were taking place during a very important

00:11:39.000 time. I won't go too much DL on YouTube, but it seems that the NIH weren't as careful as

00:11:44.000 they could have been with experiments and clinical trials.

00:11:47.000 Who was in charge of the NIH at that point?

00:11:49.000 A little known and underappreciated man called Anthony Fauci, who's a good guy who just doesn't

00:11:54.000 have nearly enough fanfare around his many unrewarded, unfinancially motivated achievements

00:12:02.000 in this crazy world.

00:12:04.000 A few more documentaries I think would Let's make a few more documentaries about how great he is.

00:12:08.000 That's what's needed with Anthony Fauci.

00:12:10.000 Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister of our country, he says you don't have to worry about escalating the conflicts in Ukraine.

00:12:16.000 How's he still getting invites?

00:12:17.000 Why is he still even near you?

00:12:19.000 What's the matter?

00:12:19.000 He's two Prime Ministers ago and he's not relevant anymore.

00:12:22.000 I wouldn't have thought.

00:12:23.000 We're going to be leaving YouTube in a moment, okay?

00:12:26.000 So I'm just letting you know.

00:12:28.000 But you should click over, join us on Rumble, where we're going to talk about that NIH story.

00:12:33.000 And on our presentation today, here's the news.

00:12:35.000 No, here's the effing news.

00:12:36.000 We're going to be talking about Zelensky's deals with major globalist corporations to reconstruct Ukraine.

00:12:43.000 You won't believe how plain, how evident and obvious the opportunities for profiteering are.

00:12:50.000 This is not conspiracy theory.

00:12:52.000 This is business as usual.

00:12:53.000 Almost like that was the plan all along.

00:12:55.000 Almost like.

00:12:56.000 Almost like.

00:12:56.000 I'm saying it could be construed.

00:12:58.000 Has there ever been in history, America dabbling in foreign affairs, instilling or installing a favorable leader in a nation, ultimately toppling them, rebuilding that country for profit.

00:13:12.000 Can you remember any occasions?

00:13:14.000 It's just, that's the, it's been an incessant trope of American foreign policy.

00:13:19.000 Okay.

00:13:19.000 Goodbye, YouTube, because I'm... Not forever.

00:13:23.000 No, we'll be on.

00:13:24.000 We love you guys.

00:13:25.000 But we're going to leave now because I'm going to express myself.

00:13:28.000 I'm going to unbutton my top a little bit.

00:13:29.000 Another button's coming off.

00:13:31.000 I've got me a hankering for some freedom of speech, gal.

00:13:35.000 That's what's calling me.

00:13:36.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:13:38.000 See it first on Rumble.

00:13:39.000 I'm incredibly excited to introduce our guest today.

00:13:42.000 Len McCluskey is a union leader and a key part of the last anti-corporate, anti-establishment movement to get anywhere near to power in this country, even though it was ultimately crushed by the mainstream media and even the deep state, not even from our country.

00:13:59.000 The CIA evidently had files on Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of that movement.

00:14:04.000 Thanks for joining us, Len.

00:14:06.000 Good to be with you, Russell.

00:14:07.000 Len, you're talking now about the necessity for a new political movement.

00:14:11.000 I think many people feel a sense of political vagrancy, that no mainstream political party represents them, that we are dealing really with a co-opted political system Where the voices of both parties, you know, in countries like ours, the UK and in America, have been co-opted by corporate forces, co-opted by the finances of powerful institutions, private institutions primarily, and that democracy is veiled, truncated, castrated.

00:14:40.000 Is a new political movement something that interests you?

00:14:42.000 Is that something that you're involved in currently?

00:14:45.000 What I've been saying Russell is that there's a danger that Labour, the Labour Party that has always represented working people, ordinary people in Britain, is liable to lose its soul because of what's happening at the moment.

00:15:00.000 Democracy in the party is being attacked.

00:15:02.000 It's the most authoritarian that I've ever known and I've been a member for 50 years and I'm basically warning That if Labour continues that way, then people will start asking the question, does Labour speak for ordinary people anymore?

00:15:18.000 And so, of course, debates and discussions about what you do about that are very prevalent in the UK at the moment.

00:15:26.000 And that's really a debate that will take place over the next few years if Stormer continues to try and Take away the soul of the Labour Party, which is effectively a socialist ideal of what our society should be.

00:15:44.000 The Labour Party was organised around representing ordinary working people.

00:15:50.000 It's obviously been through numerous mutations, most notably recently under Tony Blair's leadership, where it became a centralist You're spot on, Russell.

00:16:00.000 establishment party and you saying that Keir Starmer, the current leader of the Labour Party, is an

00:16:07.000 establishment figure that wants to neuter any dissenting voices and essentially turn it into a party of power.

00:16:13.000 We thought it was very interesting to see Keir Starmer attending the WEF Davos conference, for example. That's not

00:16:18.000 normally a sign of a dissenting voice.

00:16:20.000 You're spot-on, Russell. The reality is, of course, that what Blair wanted and didn't actually fully achieve

00:16:28.000 was to try and turn the Labour Party into a mirror image of the Democratic Party in the States.

00:16:35.000 What happened in 2017 when Jeremy Corbyn almost won power?

00:16:41.000 The forces of reaction within both the UK and indeed in America, the CIA and all the rest of them, were absolutely beside themselves that almost a man with socialist ideals and a vision almost captured power.

00:16:59.000 And they made a decision there and then that they were never going to allow that to happen again.

00:17:05.000 And they tried to destroy Corbyn and anybody close to Corbyn tried to destroy Corbynism.

00:17:12.000 And in Kiev, they seem to have captured an individual who can be a puppet of this, who is constantly attacking the left wing, forcing the left of the Labour Party out of the Labour Party.

00:17:25.000 And that's the danger that we have to be aware of.

00:17:29.000 It is becoming clear that globalist and corporatist power is transcendent of national sovereign power and democratic power.

00:17:39.000 And when a figure, whether from the left or from elsewhere on the political spectrum, emerges that is a challenge to those centralist establishment forces, they will use Deep state means to shut it down.

00:17:53.000 They will use their allies in the mainstream media to create ferocious and pejorative narratives to crush any potential dissent.

00:18:02.000 Are you saying, Len, that from your involvement in that movement, you felt that the mainstream media and deep state forces acted in concordance with one another to shut down?

00:18:15.000 Oh, there's no doubt.

00:18:16.000 There's absolutely no doubt.

00:18:18.000 You can imagine.

00:18:19.000 That the CIA in America would have picked the phone up to their friends in the British establishment and said, what the hell are you guys playing at?

00:18:30.000 How have you allowed A man like Corbyn to almost get into power.

00:18:35.000 Let's make certain it doesn't happen again.

00:18:37.000 Your previous piece that you've just done, which was brilliant, by the way, absolutely brilliant.

00:18:44.000 I mean, you're the best investigative journalist I've come across in recent times.

00:18:49.000 But BlackRock, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, the corporate elite, they're the people who run our nation.

00:18:55.000 That's what brings us all together.

00:18:58.000 What happens in America today happens in the UK tomorrow.

00:19:02.000 That's why there is this linkage these days, this global movement.

00:19:06.000 I remember the Occupy movement started in America and fantastic, gave us the 99% and

00:19:12.000 the 1% came to the UK, right in the city of London.

00:19:17.000 I addressed them and it's about working people throughout the world, understanding precisely

00:19:24.000 We're being attacked and the same problems occur in Texas and in California as they do in Yorkshire and London.

00:19:33.000 Working people all over the world are becoming increasingly aware that they are being crushed by globalist forces and that democracy has been hollowed out, as you just described, Lyn.

00:19:43.000 And thank you very much for the compliment, by the way.

00:19:44.000 And obviously, I'm merely the mouthpiece of a team of dedicated, hardworking people that do great research.

00:19:50.000 And we work in coordination with one another to bring about stories that hopefully challenge

00:19:55.000 mainstream narratives.

00:19:56.000 Whether you're talking about the farmers and the way those farmer protests have been in Sri Lanka,

00:19:59.000 the Netherlands, Germany, here in this country, across the United States, because of Big Food

00:20:04.000 and Big Agra, or whether you're talking about the pandemic and how key workers, nurses, doctors, teachers,

00:20:10.000 people that had to continue working were rightly celebrated, rightly supported,

00:20:16.000 only to be abandoned now, a time when their rights are being compromised, when they're not

00:20:21.000 being supported financially, or in terms of their working conditions in the manner that they ought

00:20:25.000 be.

00:20:26.000 Earlier this week, we had Christian Smalls, one of the new emergent leaders of the big tech union

00:20:31.000 movement that we're very excited about, because it's truly populist,

00:20:34.000 truly diverse and unifying.

00:20:36.000 It's very interesting that our country, the UK, at the moment,

00:20:39.000 has action all over the place, as ordinary working people fight for their rights to work with dignity,

00:20:45.000 whether that's in the health care industry.

00:20:47.000 The same things happen in America.

00:20:49.000 We were astonished and disgusted to learn that 34,000 nurses in New York lost their jobs in the

00:20:55.000 pandemic because of their refusal to take medications,

00:20:58.000 that are meant to be voluntary.

00:21:00.000 We're disgusted to learn about the number of care workers in this country that, while simultaneously being

00:21:05.000 celebrated, lost their right to work.

00:21:07.000 What can you tell us what we can learn from the way that the NHS, which is our national health service

00:21:13.000 in the UK, was celebrated during the pandemic, and now the people that work for it, the people that hold 1.00

00:21:17.000 it ever being abandoned.

00:21:19.000 What does that tell us about the values of this country and the values of the establishment, Len?

00:21:23.000 Well, the values of the establishment are very clear.

00:21:26.000 It's profit before people.

00:21:28.000 The reality, of course, of what you've just explained, and it's spot on.

00:21:32.000 I know that will happen in New York.

00:21:34.000 Absolutely disgraceful.

00:21:35.000 The only Organisations that can protect workers from the attacks that are currently taking place are trade unions.

00:21:44.000 And in all of these countries, and certainly in dictators, what you just said about Ukraine, where they're going to limit the powers of trade unions is spot on.

00:21:54.000 Trade unions are the only defence that working people have.

00:21:58.000 And in Britain at the moment, today, half a million workers have walked out on strike because they've said enough is enough.

00:22:07.000 I've been involved in strikes for the last 50 years, hundreds of them.

00:22:11.000 I've never yet met a worker who likes going out on strike.

00:22:17.000 I have very close connections with our trade unions in America and the same applies there.

00:22:23.000 No one wants to go out on strike.

00:22:24.000 They only go out on strike when they sense an injustice against them and they don't have

00:22:30.000 anything else they can do but try to protect their living standards.

00:22:36.000 And I'll make this quick point and it applies in America as well as the UK.

00:22:40.000 Whenever there's a war, billions of pounds are found like that in order to promote the war and, as you say, the aftermath of the war where the global elite make huge amounts of money.

00:22:54.000 Governments and certainly the UK government should find the money in order to settle the disputes for our nurses, our NHS, all our public sector workers, who rightly are saying there's a war against us.

00:23:10.000 It's called the cost of living crisis.

00:23:12.000 So we want our government to be on our side.

00:23:15.000 This Conservative government at the moment hasn't got a clue.

00:23:18.000 They're completely out of touch.

00:23:20.000 But trade unions, both here and in the States, is the way to protect working people.

00:23:27.000 I suppose the pandemic offered us an opportunity to view this dilemma through a new lens.

00:23:31.000 and globalist partners to ever support working people.

00:23:35.000 A genuinely new populist movement that is inclusive is required right now

00:23:40.000 to attack these centralised establishment forces before it's too late.

00:23:44.000 And I suppose the pandemic offered us an opportunity to view this dilemma through a new lens.

00:23:50.000 The same way that Putin and the war is being blamed for spiralling energy crisis

00:23:54.000 when energy companies continue to make these incredible profits

00:23:58.000 while workers are unable to be paid a fair and decent wage.

00:24:02.000 And of course, we're all aware of the looming AI revolution that will further disempower ordinary working people.

00:24:08.000 It seems to me that this is a time for new populism, new politics, for people to come together across conventional boundaries and divides so that we can at last confront that power.

00:24:20.000 Russell, once again, you've raised an incredibly important point.

00:24:24.000 The question of automation, we're told by independent studies, will result by 2035 in the loss of 45% of the jobs in America and 35% of the jobs in Europe.

00:24:41.000 There has to be a movement of ordinary working people.

00:24:45.000 And by the way, the wealth will increase enormously Thanks Len.

00:24:50.000 So where is that wealth going? How is it going to be properly used in order to make certain

00:24:56.000 that we have a fair and just and decent society? An excellent point to raise.

00:25:02.000 Thanks Len. I know that one of the things we feel in our culture today is that we are

00:25:07.000 bereft of elders and leaders, that we live in atomised cultures without values, that

00:25:13.000 we can't turn to one another in communities of support and love. So I'm really honoured

00:25:18.000 to have you on our show.

00:25:19.000 I know you've dedicated your life to organising people to confront corruption and establishment power.

00:25:25.000 It's a great privilege to have you on.

00:25:27.000 I'm excited to read your new book, Always Red, where presumably you tell the story of how you've been involved in this movement and hopefully tell Those of us coming up behind you, how we can organise in new and innovative ways to face the challenges that will doubtlessly be upon us as a result of automation, globalism, corruption, hollowed out democracies, and certainly in countries like the United States and the United Kingdom, not having any true political representation and having a media that is determined to lie to us and keep us dumb and distracted and continue to deny us the alternatives that are our birthright.

00:26:02.000 I want to thank you again And can I just say, Russell, a big thank you to you.

00:26:05.000 great stuff for like Julian Assange's campaign. I know that you are relentless in your pursuit

00:26:11.000 of righteousness and justice and it's great to have you on.

00:26:13.000 Thank you, Lyn.

00:26:14.000 And can I just say, Russell, a big thank you to you. A-list stars like yourself can quite easily

00:26:21.000 enjoy a fantastic life and what you do is you are the voice of ordinary working people when

00:26:29.000 you could quite easily avoid any controversy.

00:26:33.000 So thank you for what you do and thank you for the show that you do.

00:26:37.000 It's fantastic.

00:26:38.000 Cheers for saying that, Lyn.

00:26:39.000 That's really kind of you.

00:26:40.000 You lovely fella. 1.00

00:26:42.000 Although the fact is I've been too controversial for too long.

00:26:45.000 The simple truth is that this is my best bet.

00:26:47.000 In the end, I had no choice but authenticity and integrity.

00:26:50.000 It was the only option that was left for me.

00:26:53.000 Thanks for joining us, Len.

00:26:54.000 It's a joy to have you on.

00:26:55.000 You can check out Len McCluskey's book, Being Red.

00:26:59.000 We'll post a link in the description.

00:27:00.000 I'll be reading it myself.

00:27:02.000 Hey, we've got some exciting shows coming up this week.

00:27:05.000 Tomorrow, a fellow investigative journalist, a man that works alone, who built his career on his own.

00:27:12.000 No, no, no.

00:27:13.000 Oh, that's not laughing.

00:27:14.000 Do you know what I read into that laugh?

00:27:16.000 I'm smiling at how finally people are appreciating you as an investigative journalist.

00:27:22.000 Well, I'll do the investigation.

00:27:23.000 Well, hello, look at these facts.

00:27:25.000 Sometimes they're facts that I've discovered myself.

00:27:27.000 Wait a minute, that don't add up.

00:27:28.000 These facts... Hang on, what are you doing?

00:27:29.000 Is he looking at another fact?

00:27:31.000 Yeah, hang on.

00:27:31.000 If I put this fact with that fact, suddenly that's two facts.

00:27:35.000 Wow.

00:27:36.000 Now I have an argument.

00:27:37.000 Hang on a minute, what's going on in Wuhan lab?

00:27:39.000 Well, they do it over there in Wuhan Lab.

00:27:40.000 That don't make sense.

00:27:41.000 No.

00:27:42.000 EcoHealth Alliance, Pia Daszak.

00:27:44.000 Right.

00:27:44.000 The cold, the naughty cold.

00:27:46.000 Who were you sniffing then? 0.69

00:27:47.000 That was coronavirus out of a bat's bum. 1.00

00:27:50.000 Hey, wait a minute!

00:27:51.000 That's not good for you, baby.

00:27:52.000 You better invent that vaccine quick smart.

00:27:53.000 We're already on it, boss.

00:27:55.000 Good work, guys!

00:27:58.000 In this end for the diseases, out that end for the money.

00:28:01.000 So you think coronavirus came out of a bat's bum? 1.00

00:28:03.000 Is that where your journalism's got you?

00:28:06.000 That's some of the more advanced theories.

00:28:08.000 That's for the layman, is it?

00:28:10.000 I mean, you're simplifying it a bit.

00:28:13.000 Sorry, I can't help it.

00:28:14.000 If you squeeze a bat's bottom, what will come out of there is lethal pathogens.

00:28:19.000 Some of the worst pathogens that money can actually buy.

00:28:22.000 Now, you advance them through gain-of-function research, and by Jove, you've got a problem on your hands, my man.

00:28:28.000 On the show tomorrow, we've got another investigative journalist like me, Jimmy Tobias.

00:28:32.000 He's talking about the Wuhan lab leak theory.

00:28:34.000 He certainly is.

00:28:34.000 He's going to be a bit out of his depth.

00:28:36.000 I think, when it comes to some of my knowledge, isn't it?

00:28:39.000 Don't embarrass him, Russ.

00:28:41.000 I will be gentle with him, but I will not compromise on my facts.

00:28:45.000 That's one thing, yeah.

00:28:46.000 No, you mustn't.

00:28:47.000 I'm a bit like Meatloaf.

00:28:48.000 I'll do anything for facts, but I won't do that.

00:28:50.000 It's not the only thing you won't do.

00:28:53.000 I won't do the bare minimum of reading.

00:28:56.000 Before embarking on a complex show that requires brinkmanship, expertise and understanding, where we exist in a space with dedicated people like Jimmy Dore and Tim Pool, people from across the political spectrum.

00:29:09.000 Well, Len likes you, so there you go.

00:29:11.000 Len's chose old Russ.

00:29:12.000 Yep.

00:29:13.000 Who likes the accent, I reckon, and a little bit of fun, a little bit of...

00:29:17.000 Bit of pluck.

00:29:17.000 Bats, bums, all of that.

00:29:18.000 All of that. 0.95

00:29:19.000 People like that.

00:29:19.000 They're only having a bit of fun.

00:29:20.000 There's no reason that a revolution has to be boring.

00:29:23.000 Absolutely not.

00:29:24.000 I swear they made the mistakes.

00:29:25.000 You've made this too boring, you lot.

00:29:27.000 It's boring.

00:29:28.000 Also, you've shot people afterwards for the wrong reasons.

00:29:31.000 I'll tell you that.

00:29:32.000 That's none of your business, what they do in bed.

00:29:34.000 Leave them alone.

00:29:34.000 Don't shoot them.

00:29:35.000 Oh, you've gotten all carried away, you silly sods. 1.00

00:29:37.000 What you've done is you've done a revolution, then you've become worse than the people you've revoluted against. 1.00

00:29:43.000 Oh, you bloody kids. 0.96

00:29:44.000 On Friday's show, we'll be talking to Deepak Chopra so that we can cultivate an inner light that will mean perhaps that we have recourse to some inner resources that will mean that we're not reliant on this external stimuli for satisfaction. 0.99

00:29:58.000 They've turned us into addicts and fools.

00:30:00.000 If we don't cultivate an inner abundance, a belief in ourselves, a belief in one another and community, then... I mean, what's the point, Kal? 0.98

00:30:08.000 On.

00:30:08.000 There's not one.

00:30:09.000 That was a rhetorical question correctly answered. 1.00

00:30:11.000 Thank you.

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00:30:23.000 You're going to send it, are you?

00:30:25.000 Best send on there.

00:30:26.000 Don't let me put that down the internet hole.

00:30:29.000 If I can just tack into the mainframe.

00:30:31.000 You should have exported the show instead of Al the other day.

00:30:34.000 If we hadn't left Al in charge of the show the other week, then Rumble wouldn't be saying where's the last 18 minutes of Silky Carlo.

00:30:41.000 She comes from Big Brother Watch.

00:30:43.000 You've bloody done a great big scoop finding out that the CIA in a deep state is spying on people.

00:30:47.000 Sorry guys, Russ is going to do it from now on.

00:30:49.000 I'll do it myself.

00:30:50.000 Let's just, there we go.

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00:31:42.000 That's what I said.

00:31:43.000 OK, listen, we're going to go now.

00:31:45.000 Download our podcast and you can listen to it when you, you know, I don't know what you do, but when you're doing that, you can listen to our podcast, Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:31:50.000 Our latest interview with Jimmy Dore is available.

00:31:52.000 My God, what a fantastic interview that was as well.

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 02, 2023

Len McCluskey (New Political Movements)

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