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00:21:43.000All my life I've been a writer of novels and screenplays and books and somehow I just started talking about... I lived in England for seven years in the 90s.
00:23:26.000I had no relationship to God either, and I basically was involved in that society of Let's call them intellectuals politely, where to talk about God was to be nuts, was to be kind of crazy and weird and maybe even conservative, which would be even worse.
00:23:43.000And so it took a long time for me to break free.
00:23:46.000Break free from the sort of conditioning and how Christianity is portrayed as a kind of madcap, slightly ill-conceived ideology.
00:23:57.000And did you find, now I found, about two weeks, three weeks after I My wife, who knows me better than anyone, turned to me and said, you're a totally different person.
00:24:06.000You're so much more serene and so much more calm.
00:24:11.000Yeah, a lot of people are saying that the Lord is going to work in me, that I'm changing from within.
00:24:15.000Now, I've been on a spiritual journey for a while because I'm in recovery from the old addiction to drugs and alcohol.
00:24:20.000And so that's been a process of continual change.
00:24:23.000But this idea of faith, Andrew, of moving back to a position of faith, it's been very relevant while present at the Republican National Convention.
00:24:31.000Precisely because of all of the power.
00:24:33.000A good many people are Christians here, and there's so much talk of Christianity and so much warmth.
00:24:37.000I've noticed people talking to me about our Lord and talking to me about my faith.
00:24:41.000But also, even within myself and with other people, I sense the ongoing power dynamics, the allure of power.
00:24:48.000Who is it that in this moment is in the ascendancy?
00:25:03.000And I said, what though are we doing about inequality, in particular economic inequality, and like our Lord and Saviour, serving the poorest and most vulnerable people?
00:25:12.000But then sadly a bad thing happened, because a golf buggy arrived, and there was only enough room for me to get in it, and I told them all to fuck off.
00:25:30.000When you're in a place like the Republican National Convention and you have some concerns that it's run ultimately by corporatism and maybe even global interests that are transcendent of sovereignty, Do you feel like, well, everyone's talking about Christianity, but where is the Christianity that matters?
00:26:13.000We're just here to be nice and be grateful.
00:26:16.000Not to be nice, but to in fact extend that idea into the world.
00:26:19.000But it's not going to... The idea is not going to hit the world and suddenly a ball of light will happen and there won't be any politics, there won't be any capitalism.
00:26:26.000That's not the way it's going to work.
00:26:28.000And it never has worked that way, right?
00:26:40.000But we can actually bring into the world just enough light that even if you get one person, even if one person is brought around to the light of God, that's a big, that's an infinite victory.
00:26:52.000Alright, so if you're watching this right now, please get brought around to the light of God, because then I'll have done my work for this.
00:26:56.000Let us know in the chat if you have any comments for beloved Andrew Clavin.
00:27:00.000And of course, we've got Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin coming on, who from the get-go was suspicious about COVID, and who believes that politics, of course, can be a conduit and vessel for the greatness of our Lord and Savior.
00:27:12.000I wonder, though, Andrew, when you say something like, you know, we're just going to be happy to work on one person on a one-at-a-time basis, and that the world has always had its rhythms, But it sometimes sounds like the kind of nihilism and futility that materialists, rationalists, individualists, and nihilists have.
00:27:30.000No, I'm certainly not a nihilist in any way.
00:27:34.000But I do think that the promise, this idea that the world is going to become a better place, and the world has become a better place because of Christianity.
00:27:42.000It has infused itself into our culture to the point where it's almost become invisible, which is one of the problems we're suffering from.
00:27:48.000You know, I mean, it's good, Its power for good has actually filtered into the entire society so that we don't see it anymore and we think it's just there.
00:28:18.000And the enemy is at work in us, Andrew.
00:28:20.000The enemy is at work in us through sin, and it's always an option.
00:28:24.000Now, in the figure of Donald Trump, we have, I suppose, a relatively, certainly in the eyes of those that adore him, a somewhat messianic figure.
00:28:33.000And after recent events, as we've already touched upon, there's a likelihood that it will be further conveyed as a kind of divine intervention.
00:28:39.000When we talk about the transformation of, say, J.D.
00:28:43.000Vance, not transformation, the change of his perspective, he was a never-Trumper, now he's as Trumpy as it's possible to be, VP to Trump.
00:28:52.000What do you think is the perspective that the people that loathe Trump continue to maintain?
00:29:29.000Where's the Hitler comparison come from?
00:29:31.000They get very agitated because there is no place where that connection can be actually made.
00:29:36.000However, Trump has one thing that he does that drives people crazy, which is that he does not care what the mainstream, what, you know, they call it the clerisy, the upper class, people who set the opinions, who run the media, who run Hollywood, who run the places where cool is made cool.
00:30:14.000It's incredibly that this new type of authoritarianism that is lackard and shellacked in compassion is what startles and scares me most, Andrew.
00:30:26.000That it's not like the bold authoritarianism that we were used to a century ago, where people say, we know what's right.
00:30:59.000Lewis said that there's nothing worse than a compassionate Dictator a compassionate tyrant because you can never convince them that they're actually a tyrant They always think they're doing the good thing and I think that's important to the left I think virtue look because we're sinful we always ashamed.
00:31:13.000We always have this element of shame We're always trying to convince ourselves and other people that were virtue virtuous I mean listen if you listen to the way people talk I would say maybe 75% of the words coming out of their mouth are about Look, I'm a good guy.
00:31:26.000I'm a good guy, you know, and I think... That is it, isn't it?
00:31:29.000Yeah, and it's so liberating when you find Christ and you can say, I'm not a good guy.
00:31:34.000I failed, I'm a sinner, I'm redeemed through Him.
00:31:55.000And you cannot say, oh, you know, the thing that you're doing doesn't work.
00:31:59.000It's not effective because then you're racist.
00:32:01.000You can't say, oh, this is giving you more power, but it's actually taking freedom away from people because then you're racist.
00:32:09.000And now that we've gotten to the point where they're sexually butchering children because they think they can turn them into another sex, it's kind of demonic.
00:32:16.000You don't think that that is about compassion?
00:32:18.000You don't think that is about these children have got an inherent desire or a psychic connection to an idea of gender that is transcendent of their biological identity and we have to protect them?
00:32:35.000Can I ask you please, Andrew, about, we've discussed freedom a little and a minute ago, I can't remember whether we were on the show or not, forgive me, it might have been before because we were talking just like normal people.
00:32:49.000And we were carrying on talking and being ourselves during that time.
00:32:53.000Well, during that time when we were speaking as free human beings and Christians to one another, I said that Andrew Breitbart said that thing that That technology is... No, that might even be... Politics is downstream from culture.
00:33:06.000And I think that politics is downstream of technology.
00:33:08.000So, with a principle like free speech and freedom, how do you think that you can even assert and exert the type of control that we're discussing now that we have this kind of technology where fully immersive communicative systems are already in action?
00:33:20.000I think this is exactly what almost everything that's happening is about.
00:33:24.000It is about that the Internet gave everyone a voice, a democratized speech, and that took control away from what In this country was three essential networks all saying the same thing, all taking the same attitudes.
00:33:35.000So now you have anybody with an opinion can say things and they start to say, well, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:33:49.000But the fact is, in the last, I don't know, say 20 years, The crackdown on speech, the crackdown on freedom and communication has been almost as powerful as the liberation from the internet.
00:34:33.000This is not old school politics where it led to a terrible scandal.
00:34:37.000Ron Johnson and I had a brief conversation, and we're going to resume that conversation in a second.
00:34:42.000And we'll be talking about... Well, I've got a lot of things to talk about, in particular the pandemic era.
00:34:47.000If you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to leave now, but we're going to continue... Oh, I've got apple on my finger.
00:34:51.000I'm going to continue talking to Andrew Clayton for a little while, then we're going to be talking to Ron Johnson.
00:34:57.000And we're going to be talking to Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Dan Bongino's over there.
00:35:01.000Actually, over the course of our conversation, Andrew, I've become incredibly confident, and I've decided that I'm going to take him on in hand-to-hand combat.
00:39:37.000Because everybody, bipartisan basis, from Mayor Johnson, Governor Evers, myself, We want people to experience Milwaukee, Wisconsin, leave here with a really favorable impression.
00:39:47.000I'm still hoping and praying that that lasts until Friday morning.
00:39:52.000Senator Ron Johnson, this is my challenge.
00:39:56.000is that in acknowledging the requirement for authority in order to maintain order, aren't we accepting that there's a degree of regulation and therefore government and bureaucracy that's required in order to sustain systems of order?
00:40:08.000And isn't republicanism ultimately founded upon the minimalization of government?
00:40:12.000And how do we set a standard like the minimalization of government?
00:40:15.000And given that there is the amount of bureaucracy that there currently You know, it is.
00:40:19.000I know that's sort of like one of the main bugbears of the Republican movement, the amount of bureaucracy in the neoliberal establishment under the Democrats.
00:40:28.000How was it that they were able to impose such corruption during the pandemic period?
00:40:32.000Start first of all, would you, with that first bit, and then move on to the corruption during the pandemic, because I know you were well on that world fast.
00:40:38.000Well, first of all, as a believer in Jesus, you realize that it was Christ that said, render unto Caesar.
00:40:45.000So Jesus Christ recognized the fact that we need government.
00:40:50.000If we don't want to live in chaos and anarchy, we need government.
00:40:52.000The genius of our founding fathers, who came from tyrannical monarchies and other governments, is they realized... Excuse me?
00:41:01.000Some of those people came from England.
00:41:09.000England is, you know, there's a Magna Carta.
00:41:12.000That was really the first document that showed that these are really inherent rights that every human being has.
00:41:19.000In our Declaration of Independence, inalienable rights granted by God.
00:41:23.000But, we realize we need some government, but it should be limited.
00:41:27.000And quite honestly, the foundational premise of our republic is government close to the governed.
00:41:33.000In 50, not back then, but now 50 sovereign states, most government should be there, close to the governed, where it's more efficient, more effective, more accountable.
00:41:43.000We have gone so far outside the constraints of the Constitution, and it hasn't worked.
00:41:47.000I mean, massive federal government, the largest financial entity in the world, $7 trillion large, $35 trillion in debt.
00:41:54.000It is out of control, and it's a direct proportion.
00:41:58.000As government grows, your freedoms recede, and that is what we are seeing.
00:42:11.000There were less free states during COVID.
00:42:13.000So people do get the government that they vote for.
00:42:16.000Our responsibility as conservatives, Republicans, is try and convince people, take responsibility yourself.
00:42:22.000You want freedom? Freedom implies it requires responsibility as well.
00:42:27.000That's what terrifies me about freedom, is the amount of responsibility.
00:42:32.000Like, I suppose if you've encountered a lot of chaos in your early life,
00:42:37.000it's very difficult to embrace that type of responsibility.
00:42:41.000I wonder what type of culture has been inhered through recent years and recent events.
00:42:46.000One of the reasons, Ron, that I was very excited and keen to speak to you is because you took a very particular and deliberate and almost extraordinarily outspoken stance during the pandemic period.
00:42:57.000I believe that you even went so far as to suggest that the pandemic I don't think I ever went that far.
00:43:03.000I know there are people that do believe that.
00:43:05.000and Meyer's authoritarianism. Would you explain that if that is indeed your position, sir?
00:43:10.000I don't think I ever went that far. I know there are people that do believe that. I just
00:43:14.000don't know. I don't, you know, I have a very open mind.
00:43:26.000I'm the guy who said that, you know, we tragically lose tens of thousands of people on American highways every year, but we don't shut them down.
00:43:33.000And Anthony Fauci from the podium in the White House said, oh, that was way out there.
00:43:57.000Then I held a hearing in early May with John Ioannidis, who did the analysis on the Princess Cruz, showing that, yeah, COVID can be deadly, but primarily if you're Elderly.
00:44:29.000We saw about a four trillion dollar transfer of wealth from The little people, from the working men and women of this country, to the massive corporations, to the big tech social media giants, it was all in their benefit.
00:44:43.000And then, when they sabotaged early treatment, and they did, they sabotaged early treatment, whether it's hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, bunesonide, there were a host of molecules that existed Corticosteroids.
00:44:55.000Pierre Cory, in my Maymeet hearing, we had him come in.
00:45:16.000Because they administered remdesivir where there was no evidence whatsoever.
00:45:20.000There was evidence that would knock out kidneys.
00:45:22.000It was withdrawn from an Ebola trial because it was more harmful.
00:45:25.000So, again, I knew this because I was already connected to a large group.
00:45:30.000I wish it was larger, but a group of eminently qualified doctors and medical researchers that had a completely different view on COVID.
00:45:38.000And in particular, I got connected with Michael Yeadon.
00:45:41.000Senior Vice President of Pfizer in the UK, toxicologist, who was beside himself when he heard what his former colleagues were going to do.
00:45:51.000He said, Ron, there's a long list of ingredients we do not put in injectables because they are toxic to the body.
00:45:58.000When I heard my colleagues, who educated with me, know what I know, they were going to produce an injectable shot It was going to turn the body into its own manufacturer of toxins.
00:46:11.000He couldn't believe they would do that, and now they've been denying it.
00:46:14.000So I knew early on that this was a potentially dangerous shot, and quite honestly, now we know they did not do the type of safety testing on this.
00:46:24.000They knew that it would body distribute all over the body.
00:46:27.000They knew the impact if this were to, for example, attach to the heart, go through the blood-brain barrier, attach to the ovaries.
00:46:33.000They had to know that, And yet they were so hell-bent on this vaccine, this universal vaccine program, which by evidence, with Rick Bright and Anthony Fauci in late October, I think, of 2019, they were bemoaning the fact that we don't have a universal vaccine program.
00:47:08.000In fact, nothing has been rolled out that effortlessly since the vaccine itself.
00:47:12.000Then, your ability to relay that narrative so plainly and eloquently reminds me that there are many incredible facets, not least, as you touched upon near the beginning of your rather lovely soliloquy, the wealth transfer from ordinary middle-class people to extraordinarily powerful business interests.
00:47:32.000Now, I began by incorrectly implying or stating, in fact, that you had ...suggested that the entire exercise had been malignly conducted, and whether or not it was an engineered event is difficult to corroborate, but what does seem significant is that it granted powerful institutions the legitimacy to further centralize authority at a point where the inertia seems to be towards decentralization and maximal
00:48:03.000individual sovereignty, maximum community electoral representation.
00:48:08.000It seems like it functioned in a way... Forgive me, Ron, I won't be... I won't be long.
00:48:15.000No, I'm going to be... I reckon I'll do... It'll be a 10% as long as... As it should be, because I'm here to inquire of you and your wisdom.
00:48:22.000I would like to say that when you look at the various institutions and interests that benefited, is it not possible to calculate how this event may have come about?
00:48:32.000I think what we know almost for sure now, and I believe this very early on as soon as Tom Cotton talked about the Wuhan lab, and I was talking to computational biologists and other experts, this thing did not spring from nature.
00:49:47.000So, that's why Fauci, very early on, end of January, early February, went overboard to cover his tracks and make sure that any talk of a man-made chimeric virus was A crazy conspiracy theory.
00:50:03.000He got away with it for quite some time, but the truth is coming out.
00:50:06.000Ron, yesterday we spoke to Jim Jordan on this show.
00:50:12.000Let me know in the chat, you beautiful lunatics, you.
00:50:14.000And what was fascinating, or at least interesting to me, was that the idea that there are all these hearings that are conducted, but It seems to me unlikely that the reckoning that's required for an event of this magnitude and corruption of this degree is unlikely to be conducted.
00:50:31.000And do you think that it most calcifies the idea in the minds of many Americans and people around the world that Corrupt elites are able to produce and conduct their hypocrisy without justice.
00:50:44.000In short, Senator, is the level of justice that is required ever likely to be enacted upon those who, if they did not perpetrate this event, and I'm certainly not suggesting they did, benefited from it, mishandled it, exploited it, covered it up, and in so doing, Created almost the perfect lens for us to understand the degree to which many of these regulatory agencies and institutions are corrupt and not fit for purpose.
00:51:11.000It is my personal intent to make sure that happens.
00:52:12.000From my standpoint, to cover their tracks, I think there's some pretty good indications that because they sabotaged early treatment, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people died.
00:52:20.000Because they used remdesivir, people died in hospitals.
00:52:23.000And it's indisputable that the vaccine causes death, permanent disability.
00:52:30.000I mean, on the VAERS system today, we're over 37,000 deaths worldwide.
00:52:35.00024% of those deaths occurred on the day of vaccination or within two days.
00:52:39.000Now, I know VAERS doesn't prove causations.
00:52:41.000That's a correlation our regulators should have been aware of and concerned about in February, March of 2020.
00:52:48.000And by the way, when I brought that up, To Francis Collins in April of 2021, three or four months after the vaccine was granted emergency use authorization, I think at that point it was like 40-some percent of people were dying the day of vaccination or within one or two days.
00:53:06.000Again, we were administering to elderly people that couldn't handle the assault on their body.
00:53:10.000Francis Collins said, Senator Johnson, we have identified six people have died because of the J&J, because of clotting, Senator, people die.
00:53:19.000That's how cavalier he was and how unserious they were.
00:53:23.000And now, by the way, last week in testimony before our committee on the origin and the dangerous gain-of-function research, I had the opportunity to question Dr. Redfield and he admitted That they purposely downplayed and ignored the vaccine injuries because they didn't want to create vaccine hesitancy.
00:53:41.000Well, you can't tell the public the truth.
00:53:43.000You can't let them have, you know, true, conformed incent.
00:53:47.000And he said that there are a lot more injuries than what they're being reported right now, so...
00:53:52.000It's so staggeringly corrupt, particularly hot off the heels of the opioid crisis, that one wonders if many of the large pharmaceutical companies should not just be regulated more efficiently, but actually demonopolized and broken down and bought into new systems of ownership that would perhaps steward these powerful organizations with a little more responsibility.
00:54:15.000There's a report out today about Merck, Corruptly covering up the inefficacy of its mumps vaccine.
00:54:26.000Instead of actually fixing it, they spent all kinds of time and research trying to justify the fact that this really is more efficacious than we thought it was.
00:54:35.000Listen, our pharmaceutical companies have completely captured He's very keen, isn't he, Bill Gates, to vaccinate people?
00:54:42.000So that's why I call it the COVID cartel.
00:54:44.000The Biden administration, our federal health agencies, captured by Big Pharma,
00:54:48.000together with the media and social media giants.
00:55:12.000One of the things that perhaps we don't focus on enough is that the whole undergirding of the endeavor was that human life is sacred.
00:55:19.000And if any of us individually or collectively can do things to protect one another, we will do it.
00:55:25.000Whether that's take a particular medication, or lock ourselves in our home, or yield to authority in ways that would usually be inconceivable.
00:55:32.000Do you, are you heartened to any degree to learn that people still regard life with such a sanctity or do you think that was simply something that was exploited to further legitimize authority?
00:55:45.000And on this idea of the sanctity of human life which underwrites the measures to protect human life and indeed much of the compassion underwritten authoritarianism of the neoliberal democratic movement, do you feel that What you and I talked about in the bathroom.
00:56:01.000I keep mentioning situations that we talked in that sound really illegitimate.
00:56:12.000Do you think that this kind of genuine compassion, this idea of serving in the manner of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, ought to be at the forefront of systems of government and authority in a way that seems impossible when you're discussing this level of corruption?
00:56:24.000First, I believe most people are good.
00:56:28.000Okay, America is a great country because Americans are good people.
00:56:32.000The UK has been a great country because... Britons.
00:56:37.000Anglo-Saxons are by and large good people.
00:56:39.000Now, we've been led by some very bad people, by corrupt people, by stupid people.
00:58:28.000By the way, Marjorie is definitely one of the few people in the house who has advocated for the vaccine-injured, held One of our favourite bits, Ron, was when Marjorie took on Anthony Fauci and went, Look at this picture of a dog, you bastard!
00:58:51.000You know, she got very, very enthusiastic and on the front foot with Anthony Fauci, and just yesterday we were talking about that, weren't we, Marjorie?
00:58:59.000And we said that, like, outside of that context, that would have been regarded as, like, sort of a powerful takedown of the patriarchy, but because Marjorie isn't posited in that cultural position, those dynamics were not remarked upon.
00:59:14.000Because surely Marjorie is an extremely powerful woman, there is no question about that, is there?
00:59:17.000Well, she pays the price, so she's vilified for telling the truth.
00:59:21.000That's what happens in our society, and that's why so very few people do it.
00:59:24.000That's why doctors adhered to these protocols, because they saw their colleagues being destroyed if they actually spoke
00:59:43.000Do you recognize where this type of discourse is likely to lead and the kind of forces that you're going to have to continue to confront?
00:59:48.000Because before you got here, me and Ron were talking about the necessity or perhaps A possibility of demonopolizing and breaking down the kind of pharmaceutical companies that have practiced these various hypocrisies and corruptions and indeed, wow, I mean, I don't know how far to go with the words but, you know, we were talking about like the VARS events, the number of excess deaths, we're talking about a good many things.
01:00:12.000What type of reckoning is required and how likely is it that when it comes to criminal proceedings and genuine consequences, Well, we've worked together, the Senator and I, because, well, you know, I'm one of those un-vaxxed people.
01:00:23.000willing to pursue it because Ron's actually prepared to pursue it quite aggressively it
01:00:39.000But really to break that system we have to look deeper into why so many members of Congress
01:00:45.000and elected officials are basically beholden to, you know, the different big pharma companies.
01:00:52.000And that's because they're funded by them.
01:00:54.000And that shouldn't hold elected officials in place.
01:00:59.000But when you have many, many people receiving their donations that fill their campaign coffers from big companies like Pfizer and Moderna and so forth, then it muzzles them in ways it shouldn't, right?
01:01:15.000And luckily, gosh, approximately over 95% of my donations are small dollar donations.
01:01:22.000So the only people I work for are the people that voted for me in my district and the American people.
01:01:28.000And so that's very freeing for someone like me.
01:01:30.000I don't have to worry about having money in my campaign to get reelected because I've had to depend on the lobbyists in Washington or the, you know, big industries that rely on government contracts or rely on government officials and unelected bureaucrats making decisions in order to empower them.
01:01:50.000Um, and I think that's extremely important, and that's a good conversation.
01:01:53.000Let me quick add, because there's no doubt about there's a financial component of this, but I think even more at play here is the fact that whether it's doctors, whether it's members of Congress who have always pushed, for example, childhood vaccines, and they did videos on the, you know, get vax.
01:02:08.000Listen, I support Operation Warp Speed.
01:02:11.000If there would have been a vaccine that would have worked, I'd have been happy to have it and support it.
01:02:15.000But again, I talked to Michael Eden, so the fact that people have recommended this, or pushed it, or mandated it, they don't want to admit that what they recommended, pushed, or mandated could have killed somebody, might have permanently disabled them, so they will never admit they're wrong.
01:02:31.000The body count is way too high, and from my standpoint, and now the American public, quite honestly, anybody who got vaccinated They don't want to face the reality that maybe they've got a ticking time bomb.
01:02:44.000Everybody wants to just forget it and move on, but we can't because they want to use this mRNA platform for other things.
01:02:51.000And in the end, you have to expose the truth to prevent further harm.
01:02:56.000It seems that you are describing a lack of the real kind of virtue and systems of culpability that are required in the event of a crisis like this.
01:03:05.000When you said, Marjorie, that 95% of your donations come from small donors, isn't that precisely the type of system that ought to be legislated and mandated, rather than the way you described?
01:03:14.000It seemed like it were kind of optional, that if you wanted, you could accept funding from all sorts of groups and PACs and lobbyists and donors.
01:03:21.000As long as those systems remain in place, aren't we vulnerable to, if not exactly, I absolutely think so.
01:04:12.000Do you know that I've got to interrupt you, not because I don't enjoy talking to you, you're staying there if you will permit that to be the case.
01:05:03.000We could put on some locals promo if we want to.
01:05:05.000Or I could just carry on, because you want to repo Marjorie.
01:05:08.000Marjorie, what we're going to do now, if you would choose to, is you can sit in this area here, and we can put on a promotional artifact for locals.
01:05:17.000Do you know which button it's on, guys?
01:06:58.000Thanks, you could consider becoming an Awake and Wonder, joining us there, and you get additional content, you get to ask me questions directly, whatever you want, I'll answer you.
01:07:07.000I'll answer you plainly and clearly, with whatever you want, because this is one of the things I like about you, Marjorie Taylor Greene, you full-on actual person.
01:07:16.000You actual real-life person, not talking like proper politicians.
01:07:20.000Mate, so yesterday we were just having that chat with Senator Ron Johnson, then you started talking about the patriarchy again, and you seem to be framing the patriarchy in a slightly different way than we're used to hearing of it described within maybe the neoliberal establishment, but also within, I suppose you'd have to say, legitimate feminist activist groups.
01:07:37.000Can you tell us what you mean when you say that?
01:07:39.000Well, you know, it's really funny, Russell.
01:07:42.000I feel like it's almost meant to be that we're having this conversation because just a couple weeks ago I was at home and I was doing some writing.
01:07:53.000I always do writing to get my thoughts out.
01:07:56.000And I was actually thinking about the patriarchy and how the patriarchy has been framed for many, you know, millions and millions of young women and teenage girls.
01:08:07.000And I was thinking, you know, the patriarchy is actually something truly different than how it's been framed and how these young women think.
01:08:15.000You were writing about this in your journal?
01:08:16.000And I just could not believe it when you brought it up yesterday because I was actually writing what we said You know, out loud, and I felt so awkward saying it on here because I was like, am I allowed to say this on Rumble?
01:08:30.000But the whole term, fuck the patriarchy, which is freeing to be able to say, needs to be redefined.
01:08:38.000And it's important to do that because I feel like there are millions of young women that have been misled About what it means to be a woman.
01:08:48.000About what they view as something that's against them.
01:08:53.000Maybe how they've been hurt, possibly, by men in their lives.
01:08:56.000But I think the patriarchy is so much different than how they've been taught.
01:09:02.000When AOC first become a star, I really liked AOC because I thought she used to be a waitress, now she's in Congress.
01:09:09.000This is exactly the kind of thing we want.
01:09:11.000Ordinary people rising up from working class jobs.
01:09:13.000But when I see you and her having that conversation, I thought that she was maybe a little bit rude.
01:09:18.000And I wonder, do you think that people, when they're inside the political establishment, get co-opted and captured by sort of different ideologies?
01:09:25.000And would there be a way where someone like you, an AOC, could find a common ground, conviviality, and even a kind of sisterhood?
01:09:32.000Or do you think that the positions are too charged and opposed?
01:09:39.000And do you think that she has qualities, or do you feel sort of personally hurt by it, and that she represents things that you find repellent?
01:09:46.000No, actually, AOC, who used to be a progressive, I don't think she's a progressive anymore.
01:09:51.000I think she's abandoned her people that elected her.
01:11:31.000And you won't see that happen because then they couldn't raise the money they're raising off of me.
01:11:35.000I see, because you are valuable as a kind of emblem of the aspects of republicanism and conservatism that they vocally detest.
01:11:45.000I'm a commodity that they've trained people to hate.
01:11:50.000And by training people to hate me, they're able to raise money from people.
01:11:53.000Does that hurt you ever on a personal level to be the subject of that type of ire and criticism?
01:11:59.000I say this in some solidarity as a person that has been the recipient of much condemnation, criticism, hatred and attack at various points over the life of being just a public figure or a celebrity.
01:12:14.000I think you and I have a full understanding of that.
01:12:17.000We know that there's certain cities we can't walk down the sidewalk.
01:12:21.000We can't walk in restaurants and just sit down.
01:12:24.000We perhaps can't go enjoy a show or go anywhere with our family, and our families suffer the worst based on the hate that people send us or basically cast on us publicly.
01:12:36.000So yeah, no, it definitely hurts, and it's wrong.
01:12:40.000Do you think that you've ever said anything that warrants that?
01:12:43.000Like, have you ever said anything like, I shouldn't have said that, actually, that was a bit too intense?
01:13:30.000Why did MTG just break and say things like this to people?
01:13:35.000It's usually because I'm pushed and pushed and I'm listening to them call Donald Trump our orange messiah.
01:13:42.000Or I'm listening to them personally attack me or they're holding up my tweets or social media posts on X and they're reframing my words and lying about what I said and I'm having to sit there and take it and take it and take it and yes in those moments I have lost my patience and just charged the hill and said things maybe in a way I shouldn't have but you know I'm human I am not without mistakes.
01:14:06.000Hey, I see in you that person that has probably dealt with a lot of confrontation even prior to being involved in politics.
01:14:13.000Do you have that aspect to your nature?
01:14:15.000As well as I now experience some softness in you, you have that ability to get into people.
01:14:41.000But I've never been attacked like this before until I became a member of Congress.
01:14:46.000Yeah, of course if you've become a kind of a star and like you said that you represent things.
01:14:51.000Sometimes I feel that people enjoy the hatred but that they relish it almost demonically.
01:14:56.000It will be impossible to envisage them stopping their ire and condemnation because nothing people enjoy more than a kind of righteous hate.
01:15:05.000People, I think, are largely unconscious of what they are doing, unconscious of what they are expressing, and are continually looking for legitimate means to express their psychic injuries and wounds.
01:15:16.000And I think it's sort of perhaps even, this is a condition that they've made for themselves, because of the progressive language around feminism and femininity and how sort of plastic that conversation has become, I mean mutable rather.
01:15:29.000It seems like I've sensed a genuine misogyny in the way that you've been spoken to and spoken about that I think they would be reluctant to acknowledge.
01:15:51.000A lot of these guys, they want to control the power and they really Probably don't want women up there telling them what to do or taking charge or being in the lead.
01:16:02.000I don't see my leadership style perhaps that way, having run a company for so many years.
01:16:11.000You're dealing with site managers and surveyors and architects, but also people doing like the joinery and electrics.
01:16:17.000There's managing processes and styles, and for me, the right way to go is just to find the best people to hire, and then you trust them to do their jobs, and you don't want to micromanage people.
01:16:28.000Don't get involved in micromanagement.
01:16:29.000No, micromanagement is the worst thing to do.
01:16:51.000At this RNC, do you feel like that it's such a concentrated set of power dynamics that is sometimes a bit overwhelming like you know it's like like sort of for example Tucker pointed out that um with the Lindsey Graham I don't know if like you like Lindsey Graham or not don't embarrass you not a fan not a fan all right so when um like with Tucker goes um like that he said you know like
01:20:06.000I would love to explain to you the hierarchy and how it works on the Well, when I was talking about politics as a business, it is fascinating, absolutely fascinating, because you have the political world that exists of political consultants, and they're power players, because they pick a candidate, and if they can raise enough money and get their candidate across the line, well, then they're a power player in their own right.
01:20:28.000They establish, set someone up like a mini kingdom, right?
01:21:04.000And then you have the actual government positions.
01:21:08.000And the government positions, and get this.
01:21:10.000is where it meets and sort of melds in with the politics.
01:21:14.000And this is where it gets really interesting.
01:21:16.000This is where you have the political consultants, and then you have the lobbyists' world.
01:21:20.000The lobbyists' world, they're basically like salespeople that represent their industries.
01:21:25.000If it's big pharma, military-industrial complex, whatever it may be, all the way down to necessary lobbyists, like, they're just representing, you know, car dealerships that are trying to exist and get, you know, be put... I feel a bit sorry for them ones.
01:21:38.000We're just trying to make an honest dollar for car dealerships, ma'am.
01:22:13.000You don't think it is built on a love and respect for God's creation, the holy divine earth that we should revere and love, not as a resource, but because it is our duty to serve and love this earth.
01:22:46.000I mean, all this talk about, you know, commerce and corporatism, and the reality is that I've got to promote one of Rumble's brands because of my affiliation with Rumble.
01:22:53.000They've been extremely kind to me, and they're an organisation... Yeah, I'll chuck it over.
01:23:33.000This is how certain candidates get funded.
01:23:36.000So the lobbyists and the different power players in Washington can all come together and they're saying, the government funding for the military is coming up.
01:23:48.000We're all going to get together and make sure that our contracts are given to our different companies, and we have to get it across the line by supporting these members of Congress and these senators.
01:24:01.000And it's amazing how hundreds of thousands of dollars can get raised in literally an hour over cocktails and little hot dogs wrapped in crescent rolls.
01:24:38.000I hate the fact that people I know were sent off to fight in the Iraq war and they came back totally different and maybe some of them actually that I do know didn't come back.
01:24:48.000And I hate the fact that my construction company and our industry has truly suffered based on the total fucking idiots in Washington that made decisions that hurt our economy, put us in a recession, nearly put us out of business, and put some of my friends out of business.
01:25:06.000I think it's filled with some of the biggest morons that couldn't get a real job if they tried as hard as possible, but yet somehow they're making policy decisions that screw all of us.
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01:29:19.000The parents just reached out and said that they were calling authorities hours Before the incident telling them that he was going to go after the President of the United States.
01:29:29.000So, authorities failed once again with the parents calling them, frantically saying, hey, we want to stop our son from committing these horrible hate actions.