Stay Free - Russel Brand - Live from Mar-a-Lago: The Globalist Empire’s Last Stand – SF541

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:02:32.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free Oracles with Russell Brand, Lara Logan, and Neil Oliver, live from Mar-a-Lago.

00:02:38.000 Well, it's pre-taped.

00:02:39.000 We're live.

00:02:40.000 I mean, we're actually live.

00:02:40.000 Lara, how lovely to actually meet you in human person.

00:02:44.000 In human person?

00:02:45.000 Is there another kind of person?

00:02:46.000 Yeah, there's these reptilian master race that the globalists have been trying to put in control.

00:02:52.000 With us from Stirling, Scotland, it's the coast guy himself, my doppelganger in salt and pepper beauty, Neil Oliver.

00:03:02.000 Oh, behold, behold.

00:03:04.000 He's been on another safari.

00:03:06.000 I didn't realise that you two hadn't been in the same room before.

00:03:10.000 This is actually the first time you've...

00:03:13.000 I'm telling you, the chemistry is electrifying, Neil.

00:03:16.000 If you were here as well, I don't know that people would stay fully clothed, to be honest with you.

00:03:23.000 It's a good thing you didn't make the journey.

00:03:24.000 I'll just have to be back here with my menagerie.

00:03:28.000 What a menage it is.

00:03:30.000 I guess I'm responsible for hosting duties and I believe there's going to be an attempt to put us in different boxes by Massey at some point.

00:03:39.000 But I like it when you're watching a TV show and someone's elbow comes into the shot like that.

00:03:43.000 It's pretty good fun.

00:03:44.000 We're in Mar-a-Lago.

00:03:45.000 If you're watching us now on X or on YouTube or on Rumble, wherever you're watching us, we will be with you for about 20-30 minutes and we're going to be discussing the most significant and defining stories of the week.

00:03:56.000 For example, Germany's hate speech.

00:03:58.000 And is Nazism the only way to oppose... 0.90

00:04:03.000 Nazism. 0.57

00:04:03.000 That seems to be a fundamental argument there. 0.57

00:04:06.000 Only by extraordinarily disruptive control. 1.00

00:04:10.000 Oh, you're more of a pain in the arse in person. 1.00

00:04:13.000 I get it. 0.99

00:04:14.000 We'll also be talking about our country, the United Kingdom, me and Neil's country, sending troops to Ukraine and the fissure that's emerged between the United States of America and Europe when it comes to the Ukraine-Russia conflict and also Trump's audacious big...

00:04:32.000 To cut military spending by 50% in a kind of trilateral superpower pact with China and Russia.

00:04:38.000 That's a fascinating story.

00:04:39.000 We'll be talking about all of that.

00:04:40.000 So remember, join us in the comments and chat.

00:04:43.000 If you haven't got Rumble Premium yet, get Rumble Premium now.

00:04:45.000 Then you can get an ad-free experience.

00:04:48.000 But without further ado, I mean, Neil, let's let Lara speak first because, let's face it, she dominates UNI, doesn't she?

00:04:54.000 Generally speaking.

00:04:56.000 As well she might.

00:04:57.000 As well she might.

00:04:58.000 And particularly as today...

00:04:59.000 Lara is dressed for Mar-a-Lago, so I think you'll get an ultra Mar-a-Lago Lara Logan, and that's the most powerful form of Lara Logan that there is.

00:05:07.000 Thank you for explaining why I'm sitting here in this dress.

00:05:10.000 Although he destroyed my hair, Neil.

00:05:13.000 He made me walk all across the club to the beach.

00:05:15.000 It's a tornado out there.

00:05:17.000 Just to clarify, it was the wind that destroyed Lara Logan's hair.

00:05:20.000 There has been no physical contact.

00:05:22.000 Is it warm?

00:05:23.000 Is it balmy?

00:05:24.000 Yes, it's balmy but overcast.

00:05:27.000 Farmy but breezy here in Mar-a-Lago, Neil.

00:05:30.000 Don't you make yourself the anchor and we're like outside correspondents.

00:05:34.000 What's it like at Stirling Castle?

00:05:36.000 Look at him.

00:05:38.000 It's lovely in the castle.

00:05:41.000 It's lovely in the castle, but we struggle for staff.

00:05:45.000 How's that maintenance working out?

00:05:47.000 Yeah, this is a big overhead.

00:05:49.000 DIY. Mate, come on then.

00:05:52.000 I'm just going to play a clip in.

00:05:53.000 I'm going to play a clip in for us so that we can discuss these Germany hate speech and censorship laws.

00:05:57.000 And maybe we can even consider how USAID was being used to bolster the censorship efforts in the United States of America.

00:06:04.000 Let's look first, though, at 60 Minutes' investigation into Germany's hate speech laws, which led to people being jailed in Germany, as they have been in the UK, for the crime of typing stuff on the internet.

00:06:16.000 Let's have a look.

00:06:18.000 It's 6.01 on a Tuesday morning, and we were with state police as they raided this apartment in northwest Germany.

00:06:29.000 Inside, six armed officers searched a suspect's home, then seized his laptop and cell phone.

00:06:36.000 Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit a crime.

00:06:41.000 The crime?

00:06:42.000 Posting a racist cartoon online.

00:06:45.000 Well, there you have it.

00:06:46.000 Laura, what do you make of these increasing censorship measures in Germany?

00:06:52.000 I think Victor Davis Hansen said it best, if you know him.

00:06:55.000 He's a great guest for you.

00:06:56.000 Victor said it sort of when everything else has failed.

00:07:01.000 You need censorship to hold the lies together.

00:07:04.000 And I think that's what we're looking at here.

00:07:06.000 These woke policies have failed.

00:07:08.000 Germany's been completely invaded.

00:07:09.000 You go all over Germany, and everywhere there's signs, even in the airport, for you to go and pray for Islamic prayers, which is fine.

00:07:18.000 I mean, it doesn't bother me if you want to have that.

00:07:19.000 But what does it say about what's happened to Germany?

00:07:21.000 They didn't need that 20 years ago, did they?

00:07:24.000 And then there's a more sinister thing underneath that.

00:07:27.000 Which is, you know, I know a woman whose aunt works at a hotel in Germany.

00:07:32.000 And every New Year's Eve, the workers, the women, have to stay at the hotel. 0.98

00:07:37.000 Because these gangs of, migrant gangs, it's obviously a very organized effort, go out on New Year's Eve and they rape German women. 0.99

00:07:44.000 And that happens all over Europe. 0.98

00:07:46.000 It happens in Sweden.

00:07:47.000 It happens, you know, across the Nordic countries.

00:07:49.000 And they've suppressed this and buried it.

00:07:52.000 Because, you know, we don't want to, there's no hiding from the truth.

00:07:55.000 There's no hiding from the truth.

00:07:56.000 And we know, why do we have the First Amendment?

00:07:59.000 Because we know that when you don't have freedom of speech, you don't have accountability.

00:08:04.000 So censorship, by your reckoning, Lara, is an attempt to impede dissent.

00:08:10.000 Neil, is that largely how you view censorship?

00:08:14.000 I know it's something that you've been impacted indirectly.

00:08:16.000 I know the kind of accusations that have been levelled at you since you became more of an outspoken critic of centralised power and a sort of progressivist attempt to curtail free speech.

00:08:30.000 Do you share Lara's view that...

00:08:33.000 Censorship is ultimately about power and is kind of a last and desperate bid to control a collapsing narrative. 0.93

00:08:42.000 It's absolutely absurd and ridiculous now.

00:08:45.000 It's laughable, which I think is, I mean, in many respects, I think when you push these things in this way, it is actually dangerous at some level because we all operate instinctively, I think, really, because we have lived in relatively civilised, relatively peaceable societies.

00:09:02.000 And everybody knows the parameters within which polite society happens, what you can say, what you can't say, what you shouldn't say.

00:09:11.000 You know, it's all about respecting the other person.

00:09:13.000 You know, my rights and freedoms end where your rights and freedoms begin.

00:09:18.000 And, you know, if everybody kind of instinctively knows that, and I think it's absolutely absurd.

00:09:25.000 J.D. Vance, that much-covered speech that he gave, You know, he actually singled out Scotland for special attention because he pointed out that, you know, that letters were being sent out to people living within a certain distance of, you know, abortion clinics.

00:09:45.000 And they were being warned that if they were praying in there, praying in their homes, they could be breaking the law, even though they were in their homes and, you know, behind closed doors and doing their own thing.

00:09:57.000 And when it comes to that point, it's utterly, utterly absurd.

00:10:01.000 And I think it becomes beholden upon people to throw off the shackles of all of it.

00:10:07.000 I mean, I've been saying for a long time now that if I was offered, which is coming down to a binary choice between tolerating everyone saying absolutely anything and everything without consequence, or every morning being handed some sort of laminated card.

00:10:26.000 Or the electronic equivalent thereof, and being told, you have to say this, and if you stray from this, you're going to jail.

00:10:34.000 If that was the binary choice, I would have to go with anyone can say absolutely anything to anyone without fear of consequences.

00:10:42.000 And this ridiculousness that we're seeing unfold in Germany, there's something, it's almost like a parable.

00:10:50.000 It's almost as though somebody's...

00:10:53.000 Some bizarre comedy unfolding because, as you said in your introductory remarks, Russell, that you're deploying the tactics of Nazism in order to stop Nazism, so to speak. 0.62

00:11:09.000 And that that would be happening in Germany, where there are still plenty of people alive who remember what happened in Germany in the 1930s and the 1940s.

00:11:20.000 Is somebody just taking the piss? 0.98

00:11:22.000 Is somebody being deliberately ridiculous? 1.00

00:11:27.000 Deliberately inflammatory? 0.98

00:11:28.000 And if so, what kind of reaction are they trying to provoke?

00:11:33.000 Censorship is...

00:11:34.000 I'm not...

00:11:36.000 I am against censorship.

00:11:38.000 Like I say, I would far rather live in a world...

00:11:42.000 Between the two extremes, I would let anybody say anything and, you know, whatever.

00:11:47.000 And society would sort that out for itself.

00:11:50.000 And if we're moving into this ridiculous situation where people are just being told what they can say and they jolly well better say that or they can go to jail well, the game's a bogey at that point.

00:12:02.000 I discovered this plucky upstart, Neil Oliver, a fresh-faced kid from Stirling, Scotland.

00:12:07.000 No, no, he's had a brilliant career for years and years and years.

00:12:10.000 But I like Neil's suggestion that given a binary choice between absolute free speech that would, of course, include some incendiary language and certainly insults or increasingly prescriptive measures, which seems to be what's being proposed and almost like we're being lubricated for that, the normalization of absolute censorship, of absolute control.

00:12:36.000 You know, don't you sort of sense, Lara, that in sort of since COVID, people have been and kind of in a sense the failure of many of what appeared to be attempted subversive coups during COVID.

00:12:48.000 Like we're going to lock you in your home.

00:12:50.000 We're going to normalize medications.

00:12:52.000 We're going to normalize the censorship of criticism of these medicines, medicines, vaccines, experimental treatments, whatever you want to call them.

00:12:59.000 Do you think, largely speaking, that failed?

00:13:03.000 Now we have, we're coming to you now from Mar-a-Lago, where you get the strong sense that America, in so many ways, and we'll be covering some of this later, has broken away from that kind of bureaucratic totalitarianism that had...

00:13:20.000 Trump not won the last election would have reached surely some kind of dreadful apex.

00:13:26.000 And we're seeing that play out in a variety of stories, all of which we're going to discuss today in different ways, i.e.

00:13:31.000 the UK are sending, want to send troops to support Ukraine when Trump is looking for a different solution.

00:13:38.000 And indeed, when it comes to matters like censorship, where USAID is now being curtailed, controlled, cut down, slash shut down elsewhere, in particular in Europe and in the UK, people are still trying.

00:13:50.000 We want to legitimize and bolster those kind of controls.

00:13:53.000 Would you accept Neil's binary choice?

00:13:55.000 And do you think that, as Neil says, this is a floundering and desperate last-minute attempt to control something that's left alone would sort of die?

00:14:05.000 Their form of imperialism is kind of dying out.

00:14:07.000 Well, when I listen to you, I feel like we're right at the dark heart of human existence, that this is not a frivolous conversation.

00:14:15.000 This is not just something that's nice for the moment.

00:14:18.000 I should probably drink this drink then.

00:14:20.000 I mean, if we're at the dark heart of existence and I'm drinking orange juice for a straw, it's just...

00:14:26.000 It says a lot.

00:14:28.000 It's not that...

00:14:28.000 It's like I'm relaxed about the dark heart.

00:14:32.000 Of this existential crisis.

00:14:34.000 I'm sipping an orange juice.

00:14:35.000 But like, yeah, you think that we're dealing, we're out the kind of...

00:14:37.000 It's literally, but think about that.

00:14:40.000 Because you're talking about a world where what we're heading towards, it begins with speech, but we're heading to a world where every single thing we do is controlled.

00:14:49.000 So whether it's the chip that they put under your skin, you know, or whether it's what they're allowing you, the geofence they put around you.

00:14:57.000 I mean, they're literally talking about, we're heading into a world where it begins with giving up.

00:15:01.000 Your privacy.

00:15:02.000 It begins with then giving up your freedom of speech, which becomes with freedom of expression and all of your other freedoms.

00:15:09.000 And where does it go?

00:15:10.000 I mean, once you, you know, once you put a chip in your brain to Neuralink, to link you to the world's computer without having a phone or anything else, right?

00:15:19.000 Where do you begin and where does all that...

00:15:23.000 Begin and end.

00:15:23.000 It becomes seamless.

00:15:25.000 And what does it represent?

00:15:27.000 Absolute control.

00:15:28.000 So what you're talking about, yes, of course, when you're presented with those two extremes, I'm somebody who grew up in apartheid South Africa.

00:15:35.000 And I was a devoted follower of the movement for equality and justice and human rights for all, Nelson Mandela.

00:15:44.000 I mean, we believed in very noble things.

00:15:47.000 And so how in the world, how in the world could...

00:15:50.000 Could I be in favor of tyranny?

00:15:51.000 I couldn't be in favor of tyranny of any kind.

00:15:54.000 I mean, people in my country were executed for the color of their skin.

00:15:57.000 So, I mean, that seared my soul growing up.

00:16:00.000 I couldn't bear it.

00:16:02.000 And so now you want to talk about, well, we live in a world where you're not allowed to say anything offensive.

00:16:07.000 Well, nonsense.

00:16:07.000 I mean, I've had plenty of offensive things said to me throughout my life, and I learned basic life skills to help me cope with that.

00:16:14.000 Oh, there's a thought.

00:16:15.000 You know, if you want to read about some of them, try reading a Dr. Seuss book.

00:16:18.000 There's a reason they banned that man.

00:16:20.000 And it had nothing to do with Green Eggs and Ham.

00:16:23.000 It was because he was the counter-propagandist in the Second World War, writing against Nazi propaganda.

00:16:29.000 And as it turns out, what else was he writing about?

00:16:32.000 Well, all the places you will go is about life skills.

00:16:35.000 It's about failing and being alone and getting back up on your feet and coping.

00:16:39.000 And all this nonsense about hate speech and, well, you can't hear that.

00:16:43.000 You think that there's no...

00:16:45.000 Black person who's ever been subjected to racism, who's told someone to get knotted and kept on trucking and made a success of their life, of course they have.

00:16:52.000 There's plenty of them.

00:16:53.000 It's just like me being told to medicate my son because he's dyslexic and he supposedly has ADHD. Don't let him learn how to cope.

00:17:01.000 Don't let him learn how to be powerful within himself.

00:17:04.000 Create these little robotic humans that are just going to do what they're told.

00:17:07.000 Don't they love it when they give all your kids, you know, Ritalin and Adderall and they're all good little soldiers at school and nobody wants to be...

00:17:14.000 Go outside at the wrong moment and no one wants to speak out of turn.

00:17:17.000 That's what it's all.

00:17:18.000 I mean, all of this ties, it's all connected.

00:17:20.000 And so when you lose, if you lose this battle, this is what I mean about the weight.

00:17:26.000 It's really the weight of this conversation.

00:17:29.000 Because if you lose this front, they're all going.

00:17:33.000 One by one by one, they're all going.

00:17:35.000 I mean, even the Fourth Amendment in the United States, which was really based around the fact that the British would come to your home and they would quarter their soldiers in your home, right?

00:17:42.000 And so the Fourth Amendment, which is your right to privacy, is really about the fact that where did they organize against the British, against authoritarianism inside their homes and in their churches?

00:17:54.000 That's where they did it.

00:17:55.000 And so that privacy is about, it's about the space in your head and in your life and in everything.

00:18:01.000 It's at the heart of human existence.

00:18:03.000 It really is.

00:18:04.000 If you lose this battle...

00:18:06.000 You're going to lose.

00:18:07.000 There's a much greater chance you're going to lose all of the others.

00:18:10.000 And the irony, now you start to understand how Nazism did take root in Germany. 0.94

00:18:15.000 Because now you've got the bloody Germans talking about censorship all over again. 0.99

00:18:19.000 But it's like we talked about before. 0.96

00:18:22.000 Take a closer look.

00:18:23.000 Who are the real Nazis?

00:18:24.000 This kind of godless encroachment on the intimacy even of thought is terrifying.

00:18:30.000 And I suppose, as Lara indicated, Neil, becomes increasingly plausible with the type of technological advances that are discussed on a daily basis.

00:18:40.000 But now we have totalitarianism Potentially to a degree where it's not just your home that can be invaded or your free speech that can be controlled or limited but thought itself and it does seem that that you know You offered us a kind of binary choice earlier between absolute free speech and prescriptive speech and Now it seems to me that there's another binary choice and The growing...

00:19:07.000 Somewhat nationalistic, indeed, nativist, America first, France first, Germany first, UK first type of populism that's plainly on the rise, that's often decried, criticised, accused of being racist and a bunch of other slurs.

00:19:24.000 But...

00:19:25.000 The reason, if you ask me, that these movements have become popular and even necessary is because globalism and the kind of totalitarianism that Lara's describing was being augured, not openly and honestly, but through sort of kind of very insidious forms of bureaucracy, always masked in care.

00:19:44.000 Do you see that connection, Neil?

00:19:49.000 I'd have to say that as time goes on, I'm actually...

00:19:53.000 I'm much less worried about any of this.

00:20:00.000 It's the way that I would short-circuit through to what I really think.

00:20:08.000 Three, four years ago now, I got into a situation where I was being asked my opinion.

00:20:16.000 And without thinking it through, I just gave my opinion.

00:20:21.000 I was a regular guest on a top radio show in the UK, and I used to honestly answer the question.

00:20:27.000 And I ended up stumbling into a place of being controversial.

00:20:32.000 And I hadn't thought about it.

00:20:34.000 It wasn't premeditated.

00:20:36.000 It just turned out that the things that I was thinking and my honest answers to questions were, well, they made me be perceived as some sort of conspiracy theorist contrarian.

00:20:50.000 And at first it was shocking when I realised that that was how it was being perceived, and I was being cancelled, and there were attempts made to shut me down, and I lost all sorts of positions and work and all of the rest of it.

00:21:03.000 But by now, I absolutely do not care, and I am not afraid of any of it.

00:21:10.000 And I think that more and more people are feeling and responding in the same way.

00:21:16.000 And this whole nonsense...

00:21:20.000 Of censorship in this way, in this living in fear, falls away.

00:21:26.000 You shrug it off like dead skin. 1.00

00:21:29.000 It's absolutely nothing.

00:21:31.000 It's absolutely nothing.

00:21:33.000 And I keep on finding myself, well, recently, you know, people come at me on social media, and I've started noticing if they use their names or not, or if it's just some made-up thing.

00:21:47.000 And if it's just some made-up thing, You know, dusty cowboy one, two, three.

00:21:54.000 I just think if you're so paranoid that you won't even address, you won't come after me as you, then I'm not going to bother about that at all.

00:22:04.000 And the solution to all of this is if everybody just as themselves, without running things through...

00:22:12.000 The filter of will this get me into trouble?

00:22:14.000 Will I lose my job?

00:22:16.000 Will I lose my position in society?

00:22:18.000 Will I lose my professorship?

00:22:20.000 If people just take a breath and speak the truth, that's it.

00:22:27.000 This whole farce of censorship just falls away like the dried out sandcastle on the beach as the tide is coming in.

00:22:37.000 That's all it is.

00:22:39.000 And so, you know, I don't even...

00:22:40.000 And I think the Frankenstein's monsters, the artifice, the nonsense of censorship and all of the rest of it is falling apart.

00:22:51.000 Now, that's not to say that there aren't other parts of this edifice of opposition that we face that aren't more intractable and harder to deal with.

00:22:58.000 But this whole censorship thing, this whole editing yourself, self-censorship, just shrug it off and tell the truth.

00:23:09.000 And it's gone.

00:23:11.000 That was DustyCowboy123, a.k.a.

00:23:15.000 Neil Oliver, giving you the benefit of his incredible insights there.

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00:24:51.000 Lara and Neil, you've got to start taking responsibility for promoting this show because it's actually very good.

00:24:55.000 A lot of the things Neil says, for example, are...

00:24:58.000 Brilliant, aren't they?

00:24:59.000 Over the course of the next hour, we're going to be discussing UK troops being sent to Ukraine and the Starmer-Macron pact that attempts to set up France and the UK as some kind of viable alternative to US support of Ukraine in the ongoing Ukraine-Russia conflict.

00:25:15.000 Let me know in the comments and chat what you think about that.

00:25:19.000 Here we've been talking about censorship and Neil has made a...

00:25:21.000 Bold stand, but as acknowledged, Lara, that within this boldness, there still are other edifices, if that's the correct word, of power that are somewhat more intractable. 0.70

00:25:33.000 Let's have a look at this story that the UK and France are considering sending troops to support Ukraine, just as Trump is talking about bringing about peace, and Russia and the United States are meeting, indeed, to have peace talks, which I kind of consider to be sort of an end of the bullshit, shit pretending it's not a proxy war and that this war could continue without u.s support let's have a quick look at um a british news media organization's coverage of this story for three years

00:26:01.000 the war in ukraine has pitched russia against the west Now, for the first time, the British Prime Minister has explicitly said that he's prepared to deploy British peacekeepers in Ukraine.

00:26:15.000 And he's expected to put pressure on European leaders to do the same at today's emergency summit in Paris.

00:26:23.000 The Prime Minister said the UK has already committed £3 billion a year until at least 2030. But it also means being ready and willing to contribute to security guarantees in Ukraine by putting our own troops on the ground if necessary.

00:26:41.000 I do not say that lightly.

00:26:42.000 I feel very deeply the responsibility that comes with potentially putting British servicemen and women in harm's way.

00:26:50.000 Well, that's nice of you.

00:26:52.000 As the great Tony Benn once said, if there's money available to kill people, then there's money available to save lives.

00:26:58.000 Lara, what do you think about this emerging distance between the United States and European powers, or former powers, one might say, when it comes to this conflict?

00:27:08.000 And what do you think about this pledge by Keir Starmer to give billions of dollars of British, billions of pounds, excuse me, of British taxpayers' money to a conflict that most people would consider to be unwinnable in the broadest sense?

00:27:20.000 Well, it's very interesting because it's exposed something quite extraordinary, which is that why is Europe, why is the UK and France, why are they so committed to prolonging this war?

00:27:31.000 I mean, with all the money that has gone there to date, with all the support from Europe and the US, the Ukrainians still haven't been able to prevail.

00:27:38.000 So it's reasonable to look at this situation and say that's going to continue.

00:27:43.000 I mean, Russia has its allies, Ukraine has its allies.

00:27:46.000 So this kind of stalemate, I mean, I've seen some of the images.

00:27:50.000 I'm well known as a war correspondent, but I've never wanted to go to the war in Ukraine because it was just so obvious that they were pulling the strings and there was so much fake news coming out.

00:28:01.000 And when you've got the Ukrainian government going and taking people at gunpoint and beating them and dragging them to the front lines without any training to just go and be cannon fodder, this is unconscionable.

00:28:11.000 What is it that you're really trying to achieve here?

00:28:14.000 Why is it that the east of Ukraine, where people are Russian speakers, By nature, who have already in Crimea voted to want to be part of Russia, why is it so important to stand as a bulwark?

00:28:27.000 To Putin.

00:28:29.000 And I, you know, I'm not painting Putin as a good guy.

00:28:32.000 But I do think that when you look at the cost of this war, the human cost of this war has been catastrophic.

00:28:38.000 And I watched some video once of Ukrainian soldiers.

00:28:42.000 They were Ukrainian.

00:28:43.000 And they were in a minefield.

00:28:45.000 And I mean, these soldiers have been hit.

00:28:46.000 Their tank had been hit.

00:28:47.000 You know, and they were crawling.

00:28:49.000 Those who were still alive were crawling out.

00:28:51.000 And they were crawling through this minefield.

00:28:52.000 And they were being blown up one after another.

00:28:54.000 And they're writhing.

00:28:55.000 I mean, it was...

00:28:57.000 It was awful.

00:28:58.000 And you think about it, we're not watching, you know, the war from Ukraine, the reality of it on our TV screens every day.

00:29:04.000 It's largely disappeared.

00:29:06.000 Because what's the point?

00:29:07.000 There's literally no point.

00:29:09.000 And so to me, it's just what's interesting is that Trump has come in and said, you know, I'm a peacemaker and I'm going to make peace between Russia and Ukraine.

00:29:17.000 Zelensky, who, as far as I'm concerned, should put back his high heels and his leathers and go make a few more music videos because he'd be more successful at doing that than he is actually running a country.

00:29:27.000 And he's refusing to sit down. 1.00

00:29:29.000 But this idiot, this idiot who was plucked. 1.00

00:29:33.000 It was literally plucked from an entertainment show and an acting career and put in that position. 1.00

00:29:38.000 Who are the people behind him?

00:29:40.000 Because that's what's really driving this war.

00:29:42.000 And the United States and Donald Trump can pull out officially and try to broker peace.

00:29:47.000 But what you're looking at is a globalist move to remain entrenched in that war.

00:29:51.000 So what is it that they're actually hiding?

00:29:54.000 It does seem like an extraordinary revelation, doesn't it?

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00:31:23.000 Neil, I wonder how you felt when you saw Keir Starmer making that pledge to not only provide further financial aid, but also potentially to provide troops.

00:31:32.000 I think he literally used the phrase on the ground.

00:31:34.000 And what do you think about what Lara said there?

00:31:36.000 There's an indication that there really is a global agenda that's separate from this kind of diversifying path offered by the populist nativism of Trump and the MAGA movement.

00:31:46.000 It is a real sort of...

00:31:47.000 This has been an ongoing, entrenched and sort of peculiar conflict, but this does seem like a...

00:31:52.000 A pivotal moment, would you agree, mate?

00:31:55.000 On the face of it, I find these comments obscene.

00:32:01.000 That after three years and a million dead and hundreds of billions of pounds and dollars and euros squandered or laundered through Ukraine, a time when...

00:32:21.000 Putin and Trump are talking about a peace deal that sounds like it will be more or less what was proposed three years ago before a million people were dead. 0.99

00:32:35.000 The hubris, the callousness, the cruelty, the greed, the stupidity that has been evidenced by...

00:32:46.000 The behaviours that have unfolded over the last three years, that Starmer in that context would talk about putting, I don't know, it would have to be 30,000, meaningfully it would have to be 30,000 servicemen and women on the ground to take part in some kind of peacekeeping force that would annoy Russia, by definition, if British troops are on the ground in Ukraine serving that role. 0.95

00:33:15.000 Which means that he would be notionally exposing them to the possibility of being ground up in that charnel house that has already claimed a million dead.

00:33:28.000 That he's sabre-rattling and talking about defending a front line against Russian aggression, which is to say, to perpetuate the lying myth that...

00:33:41.000 This was an unprovoked response by Russia three years ago.

00:33:46.000 When history makes plain that at least since 2014 and the Maidan coup and the ethnic cleansing that then started against ethnically Russian people in the east of Ukraine.

00:34:00.000 And if it didn't begin in 2014, then it began in the 50s or it began in the 90s.

00:34:06.000 You know, when Jim Baker made his promises about not an inch into the east would NATO expand, you know, as long as Gorbachev would accept the unification of Germany.

00:34:17.000 And Gorbachev did accept the unification of Germany on those terms.

00:34:21.000 And now NATO is a thousand miles closer to Russia.

00:34:25.000 The whole thing, the whole thing is the consequence of lies and...

00:34:29.000 Dishonesty and a lack of honour and not being trustworthy and all of the rest of it.

00:34:35.000 And in that context, for Starmer to talk about adding more troops as though he's taking part in this mythical defence of democracy, which it never was, I find his willingness to stand up and say that absolutely sickening, absolutely obscene.

00:34:55.000 However, it's palpable nonsense anyway.

00:34:59.000 There's no way, realistically, that it's going to happen.

00:35:04.000 The British Army is...

00:35:05.000 Lord Danith, the former head of the British Army, has already said more than once that the British Army is in no condition to do anything like what Keir Starmer is proposing that it do.

00:35:20.000 In thought and in philosophy, I find it obscene and sickening and disrespectful.

00:35:26.000 You know, to put British servicemen into a situation where they would effectively, de facto, be standing alongside Nazis, the Azov battalion.

00:35:34.000 Not neo-Nazis, actual Nazis.

00:35:37.000 You know, when the whole mythology, the supporting myth of being British, if you buy into it. 0.52

00:35:47.000 Is largely founded upon what happened in the Second World War and fighting against Nazis.

00:35:53.000 So it's an appalling sentiment that he expresses.

00:35:59.000 The audacity, the temerity of that empty sock puppet of a human being, I find beneath contempt.

00:36:07.000 But it's never going to happen.

00:36:09.000 It's never going to happen.

00:36:11.000 Neil, that was such an extraordinary answer that I feel like people should...

00:36:15.000 Just watch that and memorise it.

00:36:17.000 And that's the perfect response and position to take on that conflict.

00:36:22.000 He's drinking.

00:36:23.000 It's late at night.

00:36:24.000 He's drunk.

00:36:25.000 Neil's drunkenly.

00:36:26.000 He happens to be drunk and correct in this instance, but he's nevertheless drunk.

00:36:30.000 It's actually a little bottle of Malbec from Lidl.

00:36:34.000 The glamour, the incredible glamour there.

00:36:37.000 The middle aisle at Lidl.

00:36:40.000 Incredible stuff there, Neil.

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00:37:55.000 One of the first meetings I want to have is with President Xi of China, President Putin of Russia.

00:38:00.000 And I want to say, let's cut our military budget in half.

00:38:04.000 And we can do that.

00:38:06.000 We're at Mar-a-Lago now, Lara Logan, going to the bar in a minute.

00:38:11.000 While Neil sups on booze from Lidl, we drink cocktails with the high and mighty here by the sea.

00:38:17.000 And indeed, the lakes.

00:38:20.000 I'm still sipping my mimosa.

00:38:22.000 I can talk about world peace and sip a mimosa.

00:38:25.000 I can't drink alcohol.

00:38:26.000 I'm a terrible alcoholic.

00:38:27.000 I would die. 0.99

00:38:28.000 I'd simply die.

00:38:29.000 So, Laura, what do you think about that?

00:38:30.000 Is it possible that a new type of geopolitics could be mastered by the art of the deal author himself?

00:38:36.000 Can global politics be a reflection of his audacity in other areas of political life?

00:38:41.000 Or is it grandstanding?

00:38:43.000 And why don't the progressive media cover this kind of stuff properly when it makes these sort of wild and wonderful claims?

00:38:49.000 Because they hate it.

00:38:51.000 They hate anything.

00:38:51.000 That makes Donald Trump interesting or validates him in any way or whatever.

00:38:56.000 They can't bear it.

00:38:57.000 They're looking only to tear him down.

00:38:59.000 And so if it doesn't do that, until they get the opportunity to do that, and they'll take this and use this.

00:39:04.000 They'll say, look, we were right all along.

00:39:06.000 He's cozying up to Putin.

00:39:08.000 See, Russia collusion was real, even though it wasn't.

00:39:11.000 But what I find interesting about this is...

00:39:14.000 We touched on this before.

00:39:16.000 I just think that we've had more of the same.

00:39:19.000 Every time somebody new gets elected, it's the same old, same old, same old.

00:39:23.000 All the institutions are preserved.

00:39:25.000 You can't touch the institutions.

00:39:27.000 Oh, that's the way it's always been done.

00:39:28.000 Not allowed to do it any different.

00:39:30.000 And I have no idea.

00:39:32.000 Because I can't stand it when people go on shows and they talk as if they know what's in Donald Trump's mind.

00:39:38.000 We don't have any idea.

00:39:39.000 We have no clue what he's really doing.

00:39:42.000 But I just find it refreshing to see that he's changing the game.

00:39:45.000 Now, some of that is...

00:39:47.000 We're not all going to agree with all of it.

00:39:48.000 It's not all going to work.

00:39:49.000 It's not all for good.

00:39:51.000 But, you know, if you are a real disruptor, there's, I mean, you're a disruptor.

00:39:55.000 Look what you've done.

00:39:56.000 You know, Neil, you're a disruptor.

00:39:57.000 You didn't mean to be.

00:39:58.000 Neither did I. I just told the truth.

00:40:00.000 I did the same thing I'd always done.

00:40:02.000 I thought they meant it when they said, your job is to speak truth to power.

00:40:06.000 So I did.

00:40:07.000 When it was the power they didn't like.

00:40:09.000 That was great.

00:40:11.000 Front page of the New York Times and Washington Post and Vogue magazine, Glamour, Woman of the Year, all that stuff.

00:40:16.000 But when it wasn't, oh, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait.

00:40:21.000 You know, that's not how this is supposed to work.

00:40:23.000 So I just, you know, in terms of this, what's the concept behind it?

00:40:28.000 So the concept is that...

00:40:30.000 You can fundamentally and profoundly shift the weight and emphasis of governments in defense spending by creating a safer world and removing things where your adversaries.

00:40:43.000 Now, do I really believe that they can just, Donald Trump can just do that with a stroke of a pen?

00:40:47.000 No, of course he can't.

00:40:48.000 And I've spent time in China where, you know, they're very entrenched in their thousand years. 0.99

00:40:55.000 A vision, you know, of ruling over the United States.

00:41:00.000 I mean, it really bothers the Chinese because they consider, you know, many Chinese, especially the political sort of elite.

00:41:07.000 They consider Americans inferior in every way.

00:41:09.000 It confounds them.

00:41:10.000 They think that their approach to life and to philosophy and all of that is really profoundly superior to anything American.

00:41:18.000 So you've got these monstrous upstarts who live in the moment and they're brash and they don't get anything and they don't play the long game and they have no patience and they mess up everywhere, but they just can't understand why they're still around.

00:41:31.000 You know, I mean, it really bothers the ruling party.

00:41:35.000 Of the Communist Party.

00:41:37.000 And they put a lot of effort into dismantling that.

00:41:40.000 In fact, it's in their psyche.

00:41:42.000 When you talk to them, it very much dominates their psyche.

00:41:45.000 And what I find so interesting about that is, why is that?

00:41:49.000 Why is this upstart of America that lacks the grace of the patience of the Chinese and their long-term thinking? 1.00

00:42:00.000 Why is it that the U.S. still prevails?

00:42:03.000 I think it comes back to the fact that... 0.71

00:42:04.000 You know, people, when you create, I mean, the Chinese have, let's face it, they've become very famous for stealing. 1.00

00:42:11.000 I mean, whether it's bags. 0.53

00:42:13.000 Fake bags and fake designer goods, or whether it's stealth technology, they're very, very good at stealing.

00:42:19.000 Why do they have to infiltrate your universities?

00:42:21.000 Well, to steal them.

00:42:22.000 Why do they have to put a person from the CCP inside your business?

00:42:25.000 Well, to steal your trade secrets.

00:42:27.000 How did they manage to put fentanyl on the streets of America?

00:42:29.000 Well, they stole that recipe from American pharmaceutical companies.

00:42:33.000 And I don't mean to sound pompous and arrogant.

00:42:36.000 I'm going to set Neil off like a rocket here.

00:42:38.000 I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

00:42:40.000 If you look at it, I think...

00:42:43.000 Societies that truly create live by their creator.

00:42:48.000 And in communist China, they don't believe in God.

00:42:52.000 He's not allowed, is he?

00:42:53.000 They put Christians in prison, in re-education camps. 0.98

00:42:57.000 And you know what they do to the women? 1.00

00:42:59.000 They put them in a cell of male prisoners, and they make them gang-rape them into submission.

00:43:04.000 That's what they do to Christians. 1.00

00:43:05.000 So for me, I know, sorry, but as you stray...

00:43:09.000 From creation and the ability that God gave us to create as part of His creation, I think you stray into that territory.

00:43:18.000 And people don't want to accept that there's a different way of doing things because it's, you know, even when I was in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, you know, people would say to me, we used to have one Saddam, now we have a thousand. 0.54

00:43:30.000 Some people get comfort out of knowing where the lines are drawn.

00:43:33.000 And so they don't want you to upend the whole system.

00:43:36.000 But if you're a disruptor, you really have to know at your core who you are, right?

00:43:40.000 Because then you can withstand the shocks.

00:43:42.000 And so that's what I think this is.

00:43:44.000 That's what ultimately what's behind.

00:43:46.000 I don't know the details of what Donald Trump is proposing.

00:43:49.000 I can't speak with authority or knowledge on that.

00:43:51.000 But I think what is encouraging for those of us who don't want more of the same.

00:43:56.000 We don't want to be lied to.

00:43:57.000 We don't want to be enslaved.

00:43:59.000 We don't want to be robbed.

00:44:00.000 We don't want to work. 0.98

00:44:01.000 Blood, sweat and tears to finance trance operas in countries where they don't really give a shit about anything trance. 0.89

00:44:07.000 I don't want to do that anymore. 0.95

00:44:08.000 I don't want people condescending from Washington.

00:44:11.000 I don't want to pay the university fees of people who are going to get into office and look down on other people.

00:44:18.000 I don't want people preaching about hate speech.

00:44:21.000 Perfectly hateful to millions of people because they don't meet some sort of standard that you've created for what is human decency.

00:44:29.000 We know in our core what it is.

00:44:30.000 I really think it comes back to that.

00:44:32.000 An incredibly wide-ranging answer from Lara Logan, Neil, covering Chinese imperialism, the consequences of the incursion into Iraq.

00:44:43.000 Sometimes, when I consider Donald Trump and this notion of the disruptor that Lara Logan has raised, and it's very easy for me to say this, in earshot of Donald Trump here at Mar-a-Lago, and when I say earshot, I mean in range that he could hear me, not shoot him in the ear, because that is the kind of thing that actually happens in this crazy... 0.96

00:45:03.000 That Trump is like this mystic yogic avatar of no bullshit.

00:45:10.000 Say, for example, with his new position on Ukraine, saying, well, they're going to have to back us up with minerals and stuff, and we're going to somewhat vassalise them, which is what kind of NATO we're doing and what Putin is being accused of doing, that you kind of get a type of clarity from Trump that sort of seems like it... 0.90

00:45:29.000 It's like you've had the bends or something, like popping your ears.

00:45:33.000 Like, oh yeah, surely what you need is someone to say, like, you know, we're going to all cut our military expenditure by 50%.

00:45:39.000 Let's face it, but what geopolitics is undergirded by are free superpowers, Russia.

00:45:46.000 The United States and China, if we come to some kind of consensus, even if it's temporary appeasement of one another, the internal economies of them nations is going to change.

00:45:56.000 Like, do you see him in those kind of terms?

00:45:59.000 And when he says stuff like this, it's like outlandish.

00:46:01.000 Or remember when a few weeks ago on our show, we were talking about, like, you know, I'm going to turn Gaza into a Riviera. 0.80

00:46:07.000 When he says these things, I notice that second, like, you know, subsequent to that, like Egypt, sort of...

00:46:13.000 Jordan.

00:46:14.000 Jordan.

00:46:14.000 Like, yeah, people started...

00:46:15.000 And they said, okay, wait!

00:46:15.000 Don't do that.

00:46:16.000 We'll help.

00:46:17.000 So, you know, he's kind of bizarrely, not bizarrely, you know, it's effective.

00:46:22.000 It's an effective way of conducting discourse.

00:46:25.000 And like you, like me, Neil, and probably Lara as well, we're not people that were like, I wasn't predisposed to Trump. 0.88

00:46:30.000 I remember 2015, the escalator, Mexicans are rapists, all that stuff.

00:46:33.000 I was like, what? 0.97

00:46:34.000 We kind of, well, this doesn't make sense.

00:46:36.000 But actually, it was just...

00:46:38.000 Oh, this is a new way of doing politics.

00:46:40.000 So what do you think?

00:46:40.000 Do you think that this can map onto geopolitical issues with this emboldened 2025 version of Trump, mate?

00:46:49.000 I think when Lara said she doesn't want to be lied to and she doesn't want to be enslaved, you know, those are basics to which I absolutely subscribe.

00:47:01.000 I don't want any of that either.

00:47:03.000 And so within...

00:47:06.000 Everything that everyone's talking about, or if they're not talking about it, they're not saying it's not going to happen.

00:47:14.000 And Trump is one of those, and Xi is one of those, and Putin is one of those.

00:47:21.000 All of that infrastructure is out there for surveillance, for our surveillance, for the digital cage.

00:47:28.000 All of that loss of freedom is potentially there.

00:47:32.000 The central bank digital currencies.

00:47:36.000 All of it.

00:47:37.000 And all of it, I just want to hold at arm's length, if not put it out of my sight.

00:47:43.000 So that caveat applies to all of these characters, these billionaire, oligarchic, powerful men in this instance.

00:47:56.000 But if Trump is also at the same time going to talk just about the idea of peace.

00:48:05.000 If he genuinely would prefer a world at peace, then I'm on board with anybody who would broadly choose for a world at peace.

00:48:17.000 And if that would be made manifest in America and Russia and China... 0.81

00:48:25.000 You know, pulling their horns in.

00:48:27.000 I mean, it has to be said, where America is everywhere with its hundreds of military bases all around the world, it's been, you know, it's been imperialist and expansionist and interfering and a coup here and a regime change there and a colour revolution provoked here, there and everywhere and the amount of damage that's been done.

00:48:46.000 You can't really accuse Russia and China of doing anything like it.

00:48:50.000 China just is. 0.97

00:48:54.000 China is just China. 0.81

00:48:56.000 I'm not sure about that, Neil.

00:48:57.000 What about the Belt Road Initiative?

00:49:00.000 China's been gobbling up airports and TV stations and train stations and harbours all over the world. 0.99

00:49:07.000 I mean, if you think about that, I agree with you, America's guilty, but China's just as guilty. 1.00

00:49:15.000 But China has at least done it in a different way.

00:49:19.000 They just buy their way in.

00:49:20.000 They just offer sweeties and... 1.00

00:49:23.000 And build shitty roads that get people killed.

00:49:27.000 But if they would all just back, if all of them would just back off, if they would just, if the three of them would just back off from one another and just do it, you know, it's a subprime, suboptimal option. 0.83

00:49:44.000 But given what we've been threatened with, what we undoubtedly are threatened with.

00:49:49.000 If somebody with something approaching a position to make things happen was able to create an atmosphere of relative peace as opposed to total war and Armageddon, then I'll go with the guy that's talking about peace.

00:50:08.000 And if Donald Trump is somewhere in his DNA motivated just by the desire to do business and strike deals and all of the rest of it, well, I would tend to find that the least worst option.

00:50:19.000 Rather than some latter-day warlord that wants to dominate the entire planet.

00:50:27.000 If he's the least worst option, well, for want of anything, better.

00:50:34.000 I'll go with that in the short term.

00:50:37.000 Caveated at all times by the thought that I know that looming out there is the determination by the undefeated globalists at the moment and the oligarchic types to put...

00:50:48.000 The proles like me in a cage.

00:50:51.000 I know that's what they're all working towards.

00:50:54.000 At different speeds, using different gears and all of the rest of it.

00:50:59.000 I know that's the intended destination.

00:51:01.000 But if Trump wants to talk for a little while about a world at peace, well, I'll go with that.

00:51:06.000 That least worst option mentality is kind of what the liberal establishment relied on for years.

00:51:13.000 When I think about friends in professional classes and the world of media, they would always say, well, yeah, no, Biden's not perfect.

00:51:20.000 The Democrat Party's not perfect.

00:51:22.000 Keir Starmer's not perfect. 1.00

00:51:23.000 They're not perfect, these people, but they're so much better than these nativist, populist, nationalist, racist, rapist, lunatics. 0.98

00:51:31.000 That is how the discourse was conducted for a very, very long time. 1.00

00:51:35.000 That was what was... 0.98

00:51:36.000 To get people out, you've got to get out and vote for some sort of dullard bureaucrat. 0.91

00:51:41.000 That's how it was in the UK. You think these people aren't inspired yet, but it's the only way we can stop these racist nationalists. 0.97

00:51:47.000 You know, that's the kind of language they use for a long while.

00:51:49.000 Even if you, like, were to...

00:51:50.000 Offer the most harsh critiques of Donald Trump.

00:51:53.000 In a sense, he's been brought about entirely by that sort of lack of horizon.

00:51:56.000 And here's kind of big and pivotal ideas being discussed and exchanged.

00:52:00.000 You know, if we're going to continue to support Ukraine, it's going to be on this basis. 0.74

00:52:03.000 We're going to cut military expenditure.

00:52:05.000 I mean, at least there's a kind of an audacity and boldness to it.

00:52:08.000 Is it more than least worst option?

00:52:11.000 Is it something that could genuinely be to the benefit of a planet when it comes to this sort of superpower standoff?

00:52:18.000 I think when you understand the depth of the military-industrial complex in the United States, then you understand it's much more than just something frivolous he's throwing out there to be disruptive, because that is absolutely critical.

00:52:33.000 Oh, I lost this.

00:52:34.000 It's absolutely critical to the deep state in the United States.

00:52:38.000 This is what Eisenhower warned against all the way back in the 50s.

00:52:42.000 And so when Donald Trump says that internationally, the one thing that I think is helpful to remember is that he's speaking to the military industrial complex in the United States.

00:52:52.000 He's putting them on notice.

00:52:54.000 I'm draining your bank accounts.

00:52:56.000 And this gravy train that you've been on for far too long, this isn't going to continue.

00:53:01.000 There are a lot of people who think that Pat...

00:53:02.000 General Patton was murdered by the military-industrial complex at the end of the Second World War when he died in that car accident, you know, because Patton was a hero.

00:53:12.000 And he was not part of that.

00:53:14.000 And if you start to look at, you know, Lloyd Austin, Secretary of Defense, where did he come from?

00:53:18.000 You know, this great military-industrial complex.

00:53:20.000 And it's a revolving door throughout the government, and not just in the secretary positions, but all throughout these agencies.

00:53:26.000 So when Donald Trump talks about draining the swamp and going after the deep state, When he makes a statement like that about cutting defense spending in half, you were talking about trillions of dollars.

00:53:39.000 Okay, that is a big, big deal.

00:53:42.000 He is threatening these people in every direction, and I think that's fascinating.

00:53:47.000 Yeah.

00:53:49.000 Yes, Neil.

00:53:52.000 We've lost your audio there, Neil.

00:53:54.000 That's interesting.

00:53:55.000 Jaded.

00:53:56.000 A bit liverish about the things that seem to be happening.

00:54:01.000 It's because unless and until Trump or someone else confronts the real problem, which is the money, the debt, everything else is just theatre.

00:54:17.000 You know, it was so blatantly obvious, you know, or it's obvious to me now that there was a perception amongst the globalists or whatever that they were on the brink of something disastrous.

00:54:34.000 And to buy themselves time, they launched the thing they called COVID. They pulled the hoax that was the pandemic that bought them the breathing space.

00:54:44.000 And they brought in all the restrictions on our freedoms and the lockdowns and all of the rest of it.

00:54:49.000 And to buy more time when that started to run out of steam, we went war in Ukraine.

00:54:55.000 Suddenly there was war in Ukraine.

00:54:58.000 And everything has followed in train.

00:55:02.000 It's all been about distraction all the way up to the Middle East.

00:55:07.000 Everything that's happening is a distraction from the main event, which is that the world is bankrupt.

00:55:14.000 And the people with the most to lose are the globalists and the bankers or the cabal or however you want to perceive of them.

00:55:22.000 And they have to buy time to reset the system.

00:55:27.000 They have to run down the broken system and bring the new system into place and get it up and running.

00:55:33.000 They're obviously not quite ready to do it yet.

00:55:37.000 You know, America's sitting on 30, 40 trillion dollars of national debt, and that's before you get to the 200 trillion dollars of derivatives and all of the rest of it.

00:55:46.000 It's like I saw the Damocles over everything.

00:55:49.000 That's all hanging there.

00:55:51.000 And everything else that's distracting people and making people angry and getting people frothing at the gills and all of the rest of it, unless and until somebody takes on the fact that we are bankrupt.

00:56:05.000 And the fiat currencies are about to collapse.

00:56:08.000 Goodness only knows what the truth is of the Bank of England and maybe Fort Knox not having any gold.

00:56:13.000 Goodness only knows what's happening there.

00:56:16.000 But it's not the kind of salacious, exciting, sexy stuff that properly attracts people's attention because it's economics, it's arithmetic, it's numbers.

00:56:25.000 People glaze over a bit about that.

00:56:27.000 Especially when there's a genocide here and a war there and a plague there.

00:56:31.000 It's not as interesting.

00:56:32.000 And we've just been being distracted for the last five years.

00:56:36.000 And Trump, heaven help him, because he's the guy.

00:56:41.000 The music has stopped in the musical chairs game, and he's holding the parcel.

00:56:46.000 And he's got to unwrap it in silence.

00:56:49.000 He's got bankruptcy inside it.

00:56:52.000 And I want to know how he's going to deal with that, because that is the elephant in the room, and that is the thing.

00:56:58.000 That's going to have to be confronted.

00:57:00.000 He's going to shut down the Federal Reserve and he's going to bring back a gold-backed currency, perhaps.

00:57:05.000 Well, he's actually in the environment of Mar-a-Lago right now.

00:57:10.000 One second, Neil, one second.

00:57:13.000 So, you are watching Stay Free Oracles with Neil Oliver and Lara...

00:57:18.000 Oh, man.

00:57:18.000 You're watching Stay Free Oracles with Neil Oliver and Lara Logan live from Mar-a-Lago.

00:57:24.000 And indeed, we've heard that Trump is on the move in the environment.

00:57:27.000 Thank you for watching us wherever you've been watching us.

00:57:30.000 Indeed, I think the title Oracle seems particularly apposite this week because there have been such incredible insights offered.

00:57:36.000 I hope you've been enjoying this.

00:57:38.000 Some of Neil's incredible speculation from the foot of the castle.

00:57:42.000 Lara Logan's brilliant appraisal of Chinese imperialism.

00:57:46.000 I feel like I could burst with knowledge after all of it.

00:57:49.000 And it's not just these delicious mimosas.

00:57:51.000 Thank you, Neil.

00:57:52.000 Orange juice.

00:57:54.000 Thank you, Neil Oliver, for joining us from Sterling.

00:57:57.000 Thank you, Laura.

00:57:58.000 It's so lovely to be with you in person.

00:58:00.000 What an absolute joy.

00:58:01.000 We have many obligations to fulfill.

00:58:03.000 We will be back next week, not with more of the same, but with more of the difference.

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00:58:16.000 I'll see you next Monday for a conversation with Nicole.

00:58:22.000 Shanahan?

00:58:22.000 Yeah, with Nicole Shanahan on Monday.

00:58:24.000 Nicole Shanahan was the running mate of Bobby Kennedy, and she's got some extraordinary insights into the pharmaceutical industry, health more generally, and the collapse of the Democratic Party.

00:58:35.000 So we'll be doing that next Monday.

00:58:37.000 Lara, thank you so much.

00:58:38.000 Thank you, Russell.

00:58:39.000 Neil, thank you.

00:58:40.000 Now get yourself a little and get yourself a good drink.

00:58:43.000 Hail to thee, blind spirits. 1.00

00:58:46.000 Lots of love.

00:58:47.000 Okay, see you next week.

00:58:48.000 In the meantime, if you can, stay free.

00:58:51.000 Switch on,

00:59:04.000 switch switch on. Switch on, switch off.

00:59:25.000 Many switching, switch on, switch on Main switching, switch on, switch on.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 20, 2025

Live from Mar-a-Lago: The Globalist Empire’s Last Stand – SF541

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