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00:01:18.000Every single day, we're going to take another mainstream figure and corrupt them into our radical anti-establishment ways.
00:01:26.000And today it's going to be Robert Sherman, who's one of those four to one media folk that outnumber the anticipated members of the public at the scene.
00:01:36.000I've got had to do with some personal stuff, but I'm dealing with that now.
00:01:40.000So I'm here to talk about what's really important.
00:01:43.000I've been giving him a little bit of advice and now I can focus on my real priority, ensuring that we are distracted from the corruption that establishment power enshrines continually and making sure that no meaningful change can ever be implemented by people coming together.
00:02:18.000But let's have a look now at how Fox News are reporting the Trump situation.
00:02:23.000Plus, we're going to be going live looking at mainstream media.
00:02:25.000If you're watching this on YouTube, You can watch this bit on YouTube for about 15 minutes, then we click over to being exclusively on Rumble simply so that we can attack the establishment more elaborately, more specifically, more particularly without fear of censorship or strikes or any of that stuff.
00:02:41.000So if you're watching us on YouTube, there's a link in the description.
00:03:29.000All the while we're watching this, we think on Stay Free Media that what we think is significant are the stories that are not being told while this one is being told.
00:03:38.000It is definitely a fascinating story because it's, I suppose, a political trial dressed up as a legal one.
00:03:44.000I think even if you loathe Trump, you would accept that this isn't a case about, he did what with campaign funds?
00:03:51.000That's one of our proudest traditions.
00:03:53.000How are we supposed to build administrations that successively drone children in foreign lands and call it rational when people are misappropriating campaign funds?
00:04:02.000How are we to find ways of having endless war to keep the military-industrial complex going with people misspending campaign funds?
00:04:10.000How is it possible that when there's a financial crash the richest interests in the world somehow seem to benefit and ordinary people lose their homes when Donald Trump is misusing campaign funds?
00:04:20.000How can we have a pandemic That whatever else it does and didn't do made sure the pharmaceutical industry, who spend a considerable amount of money on lobbying, became richer than ever before if Donald Trump keeps misusing his campaign fund.
00:04:58.000Whether Donald Trump goes to prison, like sweet Lord Jesus before him, or not, That's a reference to the Marjorie Taylor Greene interview in a minute.
00:05:11.000That doesn't change the diagnosis of the global legal situation in One Iota.
00:05:17.000Let's have a look at Phil's camera work on Fox News and then I reckon get ready with the live stuff.
00:05:21.000I'm really fascinated to see the live stuff.
00:05:24.000You will see over there just this mob of reporters, local, international, and national media looking to cover this story of global significance.
00:05:33.000People are standing shoulder to shoulder.
00:05:35.000It's hard to imagine squeezing another camera in between all of those people.
00:05:46.000Why don't we, if we both imagine it hard enough, maybe if it was a tiny camera and a mouse reporter, they could film the more seen aspects of this case.
00:05:54.000So let's have a look what's going on right now on the mainstream.
00:07:00.000Let's hear a bit of ABC's audio and ideally we'd leave their audio live and still be able to hear mine as discussed earlier.
00:07:05.000...to be in attendance there tonight and we will be waiting to see what other GOP lawmakers, what other high-profile GOP officials come here to Mar-a-Lago to back the former president in this historic moment as he is both a presidential candidate... We're continually being told that it's historic.
00:07:25.000I suppose, if you could turn the audio down a little bit, we're like continually legitimizing the events themselves and the coverage itself.
00:07:49.000In a sense, this is just taking place at the level of the media spectacle.
00:07:54.000This is the way that it is functioning.
00:07:56.000Do you know what I want to look at now, as a matter of fact, is that while this is happening, you may have missed the The story the other day about the Wall Street Journal reporter being arrested, Evan Gerskovich.
00:08:16.000Last night, senior White House officials spoke directly with Mr. Gersovich's employer, The Wall Street Journal.
00:08:22.000The State Department has also been in touch with The Wall Street Journal and his family on this matter.
00:08:29.000This espionage charges are ridiculous.
00:08:32.000The targeting of American citizens by Russian government is unacceptable.
00:08:37.000We condemn the detention of Mr. Gershkovich in the strongest—in the strongest terms.
00:08:43.000We also condemn the Russian government's continued targeting and repression of journalists.
00:08:50.000Legal-eyed civilians, who haven't been bludgeoned into near-unconsciousness by a system that wants you dumb and near-damned, will have observed that many of the things said about even Gurkhasvich could be said of Julian Assange.
00:09:19.000yet he's being extradited to the United States to face trial.
00:09:22.000We condemn the detention of Mr. Gershkovich.
00:09:24.000Assange has been detained in Belmarsh prison without trial since 2021.
00:09:30.000We also condemn the Russian government's continuing target Targeting and repression of journalists.
00:09:34.000As well as Assange, the US government has targeted Pentagon Papers journalist Daniel Ellsberg under the Espionage Act.
00:09:40.000So while we're all caught up in the carnival of Trump, and what a carnival it is, I couldn't be more sympathetic to those of you that believe that with his anti-establishment rhetoric, Trump has correctly identified the problem.
00:09:54.000Career politicians, corrupted by financial interests, a system that will never respond to democratic needs, a media that only reports on whatever half of the story it's invested in, and neither of those halves cover the deeper reality that systemic corruption will never allow itself to be influenced by a little thing like democracy, by your requirements, by your will, by your reality.
00:10:20.000They live in rarefied and rarefied air up there.
00:10:24.000inaccessible to you, inaccessible to democracy.
00:10:27.000So whether you're watching this on CNN, where Trump's like the worst person in history,
00:10:31.000or you're watching it on Fox, or, you know, here on Rumble, where Trump is celebrated
00:10:37.000as a peripheral anti-hero, as a muse in orator, still the fact remains that the system isn't
00:10:46.000Now I know that those of you that love Trump point to some of his brilliant rhetorical flourishes.
00:10:51.000Did you see in his speech the other day when he was talking about, when he was responding to these charges, the particular bit that I would love to see, so if you could find that part of the clip.
00:11:01.000Is when he talks about, you know, like when even eliciting campaign donations, he says, like, you know, if you're a poor person or you're struggling because of Biden's government, I don't want your money.
00:11:27.000This is good for business for everyone that's not interested in real change. Again,
00:11:32.000we're not talking about whether Trump is an effective politician or not. You can decide that and we can indeed
00:11:37.000look at what went on during Trump's presidency, you know, the successes and the
00:11:43.000failings, the areas where he appeared to be administrated on behalf of the elites, the decisions he
00:11:49.000made that certainly I would say observably better than like the Biden administration,
00:11:52.000who as you know, if you're a regular viewer of Stay Free, we think are stooges.
00:11:57.000Stooges of globalist corporate elites.
00:11:59.000Let's have a look at this bit of Trump.
00:12:02.000If you're doing poorly because of Biden's disastrous policies, don't even think about making a contribution to our campaign.
00:12:09.000You and your family always come first.
00:12:11.000Our movement is about making your life better and putting you first.
00:12:16.000So I don't want you to incur any financial costs that you can't afford.
00:12:21.000But if you're doing well because all of the things that I've done have brought you wealth and prosperity, or at least you're extremely comfortable, You're extremely clever.
00:12:32.000What I love about Trump is the ad libs.
00:12:35.000His willingness to pursue tangential, ancillary and discursive thoughts.
00:12:40.000That is the kind of populist rhetoric that reaches people.
00:12:43.000It's his ability to communicate like that and to, from an anti-establishment platform, make points that cannot be addressed by mainstream systemic opposition.
00:12:53.000That is why I'm very excited to talk to presidential candidate, or at least she's standing for the presidency or the leadership of the Democratic Party, Marianne Williamson.
00:13:04.000Marianne and I have met several times.
00:13:48.000What I wanted to say is that last time round, I think where you were particularly effective was recognising that the Democrats were not addressing the kind of psychic charge and potency of Donald Trump because they essentially are tied to the same corporate interests that have undergirded mainstream politics for a long time.
00:14:08.000Why do you think that Trump is once more at the forefront of the news cycle?
00:14:11.000What does that tell us about the failings of the Democratic Party?
00:14:14.000And what does it tell us about the political landscape more broadly?
00:14:16.000That Trump continues to dominate, supported essentially by both sides, particularly from a media perspective, because they are all he talks about.
00:14:23.000And how are you going to penetrate that space and give people hope that there's an alternative to Donald Trump, acknowledging that the reason that Donald Trump is so successful and effective is because of the centralised corruption that I'm sure that you would oppose also?
00:14:37.000Yeah, I don't disagree with your analysis.
00:14:54.000So many of the darkest aspects of American consciousness that were harnessed by him for political purposes had already metastasized, and they have not gone away.
00:15:05.000But we have to go back to what made this country so vulnerable to him to begin with.
00:15:09.000And that has to do with the fact that, as Franklin Roosevelt said, we don't have to worry about a fascist takeover as long as democracy delivers on its blessings.
00:15:18.000This country should never have been so vulnerable to a man like Donald Trump.
00:15:22.000We were so vulnerable in large part because democracy had not.
00:15:26.000If democracy was delivering on its blessings, then the average American would have the same things that the average European and every other advanced European nation has, such as universal health care, such as a guaranteed livable wage, such as easy access to a higher education, such as free child care, such as So, our immune system was so weakened because of this corruption—neoliberalism, trickle-down economics, whatever you want to call it.
00:15:55.000When you have 80 percent of people in a country who are living—60 percent living paycheck to paycheck, 80 percent of Americans living with chronic economic struggle, then that forms a kind of Petri dish, out of which all manner of personal and societal dysfunction is inevitable, whether it's Donald Trump or anyone else.
00:16:14.000Now, since this last election, and I'm very glad that he was defeated in 2020, but we have not provided the massive infusion of economic hope and opportunity to the American people that will guarantee that we will not be vulnerable to him in 2024.
00:16:31.000And that's why an agenda that does not just present an alleviation of economic
00:16:36.000stress, but which actually proposes an economic U-turn in this country, actually proposes
00:16:41.000fundamental economic reform, is not only the way to beat him in 24, but it's also the way to
00:16:59.000You know that Donald Trump's success was significantly built on blue-collar votes, that he experienced Great success in poor communities.
00:17:08.000A lot of people watching this right now, I know, will not want to hear Donald Trump attacked.
00:17:13.000What I try to offer here is the opportunity to address the conditions that are not being addressed by either side.
00:17:21.000That Biden promised to rein in Big Pharma, then offered a mealy-mouthed compromised bill that will not meaningfully impact the
00:17:30.000pharmaceutical industry at all. That no one is talking about a peace deal
00:17:35.000between Ukraine and Russia and in fact it's apparent that that process was
00:17:39.000possibly interrupted. What I feel like even, and as a person that
00:17:43.000lives in Europe, things ain't so great here either.
00:17:46.000We similarly toil under centralised government that appear to operate on behalf of corporate interests rather than the people that put them into power.
00:17:54.000Sure, we might have some comparative compromises and some little pieces of welfare here or there that you might think were a reflection of a more enlightened governmental perspective, but it's the same deal basically.
00:18:08.000We basically think politicians are corrupt.
00:18:11.000They've got second jobs, they own shares in this or that, they're connected to hedge funds.
00:18:15.000And Marianne, what I think is required is a kind of radicalism in the political conversation, a kind of boldness of vision, that now we've seen that, you know, like, you know, we can certainly assess what Trump did in office and the failings and where he plainly administered on behalf of economic elites, but we have to accept that Since then, Biden said to his donors, as you are obviously aware, you've got nothing to worry about with me in office.
00:18:42.000You know that he's funded by Big Tech, Wall Street, Big Pharma, or at least the Democrat Party largely are.
00:18:48.000So how, from within this system, do you ever make significant changes?
00:18:53.000What is your agenda that would appeal to people that would happily vote for Donald Trump because of his anti-establishment stance?
00:18:59.000Well, in 2016, Donald Trump said to the American people, your rage is legitimate.
00:19:27.000So many—yes, he spoke to people, as did Bernie, but once he got into office, I think a lot of those people have seen how conned they were by the things that he said.
00:19:35.000There is a radicalism—a radicalism the way that Franklin Roosevelt said.
00:19:40.000He said, I feel we must become fairly radical for a generation.
00:19:44.000In my country, it would be considered a radical Americanism, that it would be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, rather than a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations.
00:19:55.000Now, I'm concerned, as you are, that the Democratic Party is trying to have it both ways.
00:20:00.000The Democratic Party sees people—and I don't want to say the Democratic Party—the Democratic establishment elite sees the pain and wants to address it on the periphery, but they, no more than the Republicans sometimes, are willing to challenge the underlying corporate forces that make the return of that pain always inevitable.
00:20:17.000To that extent, I am the candidate who is saying much of what you're saying, and it's also why the Democratic corporate elite does not want it.
00:20:27.000When you ask, how are you going to break through?
00:20:30.000History has never been made by people who say that it can't be done.
00:20:34.000You know, I look at it a lot like the Berlin Wall.
00:20:36.000If you ask, well, what made the Berlin Wall fall?
00:20:39.000Well, if you look at it on the outside, somebody made a phone call to somebody else that was misunderstood, and then they called the gate, and then they opened the gate.
00:20:46.000But that's not what really made the Berlin Wall fall.
00:20:49.000What really made is just the thousands and thousands and thousands of efforts made.
00:20:56.000You know, I saw somebody on television the other day talking about how we're going to bring down an unjust system, the economic and political system that you're talking about.
00:21:06.000And he said, somebody is going to break through.
00:21:09.000We don't have time to think about, well, would this person do it?
00:21:14.000Every conversation, every podcast, every labor effort, every election of a progressive, you just keep pushing, you just keep pushing.
00:21:21.000To me, if we go into cynicism, if we go into, no, it can't be done, that's acquiescing to the system.
00:21:28.000And I think we just need to keep pushing and I believe with all my heart somebody is going to push a breakthrough and what point of breakthrough it's going to be is not what's as relevant as the fact that all of us just need to keep pushing and whatever we can way we can and supporting other people who are doing it too.
00:21:43.000I agree with you, and I'm excited by you as a candidate, as you know, because of your spiritual beliefs and credentials and your optimism and your credentials as a teacher, Marianne.
00:21:54.000We spoke to Brianna Joy Gray yesterday, who was prominent in Bernie's campaigning.
00:22:00.000And you know, you know, and I know that Bernie fell fail of where he was stiffed by rigged systems within the Democrat party, the elite that you described.
00:22:10.000And Bernie, of course, was a longstanding independent candidate before aligning with the Democrats.
00:22:15.000Do you not think that the sort of popular support being garnered by people Like whether it's the Tea Party Libertarian Right, perhaps in the great form of Donald Trump, or figures like Bernie with his kind of populist support.
00:22:27.000These are ultimately independent style candidates that are sort of operating within the party system.
00:22:33.000Do you not think that there might be a future for a sort of a confederacy or alliance at least, if that's an incendiary word, of independent candidates challenging systemic corruption that can incorporate both The traditional values typically enshrined by the Republican right, and the progressive values, shall we call them, that are seen within the social justice movement.
00:22:59.000Because I feel like, you know, I am optimistic, but I feel that new alliances, tolerance, open-heartedness, are going to have to be embraced if we are going to confront the sort of entrenching, systemic corporate interests that seem very difficult to shift or alter, no matter who is in office.
00:23:15.000Well, I think that what you're describing is possible, but it hasn't happened yet.
00:23:20.000So at this moment, we have to go with what is and every person has to go with where they feel they can help the breakthrough happen in the circumstances that now exist.
00:23:31.000What about, in the world of mental health, Big Pharma requires that 40 million Americans stay on antidepressants, 4 in 10 lobbying dollars go to healthcare or food interests and it seems that there's some corollary between those two things.
00:23:43.000How can you disrupt a system with so much financial investment in it and with so much systemic support?
00:23:51.000Well, it shouldn't be a fringe or radical thing to point out that Americans appear to be overmedicated.
00:23:57.000And yet I know from my campaign last time, boy, you get anywhere near anything like that.
00:24:04.000And I know they came after me last time.
00:24:06.000They've already come after me this time.
00:24:07.000What we have is a matrix, a corporate matrix.
00:24:11.000That's why it's often called a corporatocracy.
00:24:12.000Basically, it's a reversion to an aristocratic system.
00:24:15.000It's insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, big food, big agriculture, big chemical companies, gun manufacturers, big oil and defense contractors.
00:24:24.000And as long as we have profit-based healthcare system, as long as we have a profit-based, basically, journalism in this country, as long as we have profit-based foreign policy, then this situation is going to be Sitting on top of us, they have a grip.
00:24:40.000government hostage, and our government, therefore, is more of a system of legalized bribery.
00:24:45.000But you have to call them on it everywhere you can, including Big Pharma, and the ultimate answer, the ultimate victory is going to be when enough people wake up and realize how systemically disinformed we are.
00:25:00.000We are mentally trained to Expect too little?
00:25:06.000We are mentally trained, and Big Pharma is a perfect example.
00:25:10.000Most people who are listening right now, if they live in the United States, know somebody, if they're not already somebody, rationing their insulin, going to Mexico or going to Canada to get their insulin.
00:25:22.000Stop it with thinking these people always have your best interests at heart.
00:25:26.000Obviously, there are things done by big pharmaceutical companies that all of us are grateful for, but they are predatory in too many cases, creating profit centers, as we know they did with the opioid crisis.
00:25:40.000And we should not be so naive as to think they're not doing with any other area.
00:25:46.000If you're watching us on YouTube right now, we're going to go exclusively live onto Rumble while I ask Marianne, if she has the grace to allow it, to answer one more question on war and whether or not now the Democrat Party are officially the party of war, co-opted by military-industrial-complex interests.
00:26:03.000I'm not going to ask Marianne that on YouTube with all the incumbent risks.
00:26:07.000That's a question I can only ask in this free speech domain that is Rumble.
00:28:13.000I would just say that's not a juxtaposition, that's a contradiction or a potential conflict and it seems like a lot of the focus is about who's going to show up.
00:28:22.000This is actually just spectacle and fanfare, although I will say that right now there's a guy with really great hair walking along like he looks like Thor, Thor in a suit.
00:28:31.000You know like when in the Marvel movies when Thor For some reason or another I have to pretend he's not.
00:29:10.000But what I reckon we can use this to diagnose accurately is the sort of unconscious corruption of our media systems that are just willing to talk about it inanely.
00:29:19.000Yeah, also like a story we were talking about earlier that we'll be doing a video on later in the week about Wall Street buying up 40% of single-family homes in the US.
00:29:29.000It's kind of amazing in the city where, you know, Trump Tower is and all of this going on at the moment, all the hullabaloo and all the press, That the same kind of thing, the kind of corrupt business which is buying up essentially almost half of American households can be going on and yet that's just under the radar.
00:29:49.000Whereas this, the amount of attention, you know that's where the media attention should be going on.
00:29:53.000People can't afford housing anymore in the United States.
00:29:56.000Later in the week, as Gareth points out, we'll be doing a thorough presentation on the gradual march of the financial industry into the real estate sector.
00:30:28.000But this is what is significant, if you ask me, is while we are absorbed by the compelling spectacle of Trump's arrest, its illegitimacy, the hyperbole around it, the glorious Nordic god Wandering outside in a suit with a flowing golden mane.
00:30:46.000We're not talking about ongoing financial corruption.
00:30:49.000We're not talking about the military-industrial complex's ability to engineer ongoing war.
00:30:54.000I'm not talking about the current Russia-Ukraine conflict.
00:30:56.000I'm sure that's a humanitarian aid effort.
00:30:58.000But the ongoing campaigns in the Middle East, the fact that there's always been a war in America for the last, I don't know, 50, 60 years.
00:31:34.000Children in Somalia, Pakistan and the Yemen and other territories bombed and droned in wars that she has sanctioned.
00:31:44.000Today we have a fantastic story for you.
00:31:46.000Hillary Clinton is going to be teaching at Columbia University or something like that and they are promoting this new business venture piece of propaganda with a delightful youth-oriented piece of content that when you watch it ...is appalling, derisory, insulting, excludes many of the most important things about Hillary Clinton and therefore becomes a kind of living symbol of the problems of the way we present information and appreciate reality today.
00:32:14.000We exclude vital and valuable data when appraising reality.
00:32:19.000To put it into the language of the campaign itself, it says Hillary Clinton will join Columbia University as a professor and a presidential fellow in global affairs.
00:32:28.000One of the things that offends me most, and I'm sure will offend you too, is the patronising and insulting tone of the propaganda that promotes this initiative.
00:32:36.000Get ready to cringe yourself into another dimension.
00:32:47.000I'm offended by the easy casualness of the setup.
00:32:50.000I'm offended by the enthusiasm, the vacuity, the obvious motivation of the entire piece, the mimicking of casual performance and behaviour.
00:33:00.000In a way it's the same offence I feel when I hear Joe Biden talking about his family connection to cancer while simultaneously doing nothing to prevent pharmaceutical companies overcharging people suffering from cancer.
00:33:12.000It's that the rhetoric and the reality we're presented with has nothing to do with the experience of reality nor the kind of decisions that these people actually make when they are in a position to implement policy and change legislation.
00:33:26.000This isn't like the casual hypocrisies that all of us are guilty of in life.
00:33:39.000By my evaluation, these are the very worst of crimes that a human being can participate in.
00:33:43.000Who knows how many children have been droned?
00:33:46.000Who knows what the accumulative results of policies that Clinton has participated in are.
00:33:51.000When you watch this, you're invited to think of Hillary Clinton as nothing more than a woman who has fought against the odds in a patriarchal, misogynistic world.
00:33:59.000And that's sort of part of the truth, but it's such a sort of small part of the truth that has to be negligible and irrelevant, and to promote it in this way is propagandist.
00:34:12.000When you say what, could you put your hand up to your head as if Hillary Clinton running again is something that's gonna make a positive impact on your life and is something you care about?
00:34:39.000Then of course there's the little run itself where we're subject to the sight of Hillary Clinton's little kicky boots running down a corridor and we're meant to be excited by this, we're meant to be encouraged by this.
00:34:52.000Is it meant to be the framing of Hillary Clinton as an elder states person of a neoliberal establishment that we're supposed to revere and adore?
00:35:01.000That we're supposed to look at Hillary Clinton and George W Bush and Tony Blair, all people who by some folks reckoning are actually actual war criminals in the same way that Vladimir Putin is.
00:35:10.000And as you know, the American government couldn't provide the ICC with information about
00:35:14.000Vladimir Putin's war crimes because it would indict them of the same war crimes. Even though
00:35:19.000Vladimir Putin and Russia's list of war crimes in Ukraine are long and frankly appalling to
00:35:23.000read, the problem is, the bigger problem is that America are guilty of all of those war
00:35:29.000And politicians like Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and George W. Bush and Tony Blair, while they present themselves as friendly, affable and amenable PR-friendly characters, they actually participate in systemic violence and war and corruption to such a degree that that's how they should be evaluated, as symbols of death and criminality.
00:35:56.000I just got here early for the new class we're teaching together on foreign policy decision-making.
00:36:01.000In case you thought that no more irony could be laid upon this issue, the subject that Hillary Clinton's going to be talking about is foreign policy-making.
00:36:09.000Now, this is an area where Hillary Clinton has been particularly effective.
00:36:12.000If the results you crave are dead people, dead children, sales of arms to corrupt regimes, facilitating the military-industrial complex's ability to lobby for unnecessary conflict.
00:36:23.000The reason that this is a fascinating piece of content rather than an innocuous piece of PR is because the reality we're invited to participate in is so distinct and discreet from the reality that most people live in, and some people have suffered directly as a result of, that it's actually laughable.
00:36:48.000I think you're more prepared than anyone to teach this course.
00:36:52.000I feel like it's our obligation, do you, to point out that what this is is a veneer laying upon a rather unpleasant reality, and that this is the level of critical theory that ought to be applied to artifacts that Seek to rehabilitate, not even rehabilitate, because never has Hillary Clinton been meaningfully evaluated.
00:37:12.000The only thing you really hear about Hillary Clinton are, I would say, reflexive and somewhat misogynistic damning of her in some places, and then the sort of unnecessary celebration and reification of her as if she's a sort of a symbol of progress in some way.
00:37:25.000The fact is, is that the type of symbols of progress that are a form ...are the types of symbols of progress that do not interrupt systemic corruption.
00:37:36.000And that corruption is not just financial, it's genocidal.
00:37:40.000And I'll cover what it was actually like in the room during the Bin Laden raid, the Iran sanctions, the Gaza ceasefire, you name it.
00:37:48.000Okay, but are you ready for whatever questions the students throw at you?
00:37:57.000As a supporter of the war in Iraq, what were some of your main achievements?
00:38:01.000Would you say, was it the ongoing escalating wars, greenlighting coups, and generally maintaining and expanding US power around the globe?
00:38:08.000Were you particularly pleased when ISIS came into being?
00:38:12.000Would you say that you were generally more or less militarily aggressive than your Republican counterparts?
00:38:17.000On most foreign policy decisions, including Libya, Clinton was in favour of equally aggressive action, if not more aggressive action, than former Bush appointee Robert Gates.
00:38:26.000If Hillary Clinton's still in the class, not darting down the corridor in her kicky boots, here's another inquiry.
00:38:31.000How did you package your hawkish policies publicly?
00:38:34.000Clinton and Obama got away with hawkish policies because they stuck to the language of humanitarian intervention and liberation.
00:38:40.000Clinton helped assert the right of the US government to intervene in any country of its choosing using the most brutal means possible to achieve its ends.
00:38:49.000So, having a child yourself, what was your policy on drones?
00:38:51.000The answer, of course, is Clinton was an enthusiastic supporter of Obama's decision to step up the use of drone warfare in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.
00:38:58.000Clinton and the Obama administration sold the drone program as a precise and effective way to target terrorists with fewer risks of collateral damage.
00:39:05.000However, during one five-month period of an operation, 90% of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended target.
00:39:12.000I suppose that this isn't, at this point, a personal attack on Hillary Clinton, rather a critique on the aesthetic of neoliberalism as presenting us with these human artefacts of progression, like Barack Obama and the success that a non-white president should represent, or Hillary Clinton's rise as a female in a traditionally male space.
00:39:34.000These Ciphers are used to mask the fact that for many people things are getting a lot worse.
00:39:40.000That brutality and violence continue to be the tools of global oppression and of domestic repression.
00:39:47.000And the issue of drones and droning is a significant one because we are sold the idea that drones are bespoke and particular and frictionless weapons of death that are only ever used against terrorists.
00:39:58.000It shows you that the reality we're presented with is nothing like the reality that we live within.
00:40:03.000So, while on one hand, this is an innocuous piece of propaganda for what I'm sure is a delightful Ivy League school, it is also one of the tools of ongoing propaganda that prevent us appraising reality correctly.
00:40:18.000Before you go, what was your relationship with the military-industrial complex?
00:40:21.000As Secretary of State, Clinton made it her business to make sure the world was open for US business.
00:40:26.000From securing defence contracts for Lockheed Martin to brokering deals to build nuclear power plants for Westinghouse, Clinton and her ambassador CEOs travelled the globe to bring foreign governments and US companies together.
00:40:37.000We have to position ourselves to lead in a world where security is shaped in boardrooms and on trading floors as well as on battlefields, Clinton said.
00:40:44.000Hillary, one last question though before you wear through those delightful little Cuban heels.
00:40:49.000Surely you didn't take donations from military contractors though?
00:40:52.000American military contractors and their affiliates who donated to the Clinton Foundation were awarded some $163 billion worth of armed deals authorised by the Clinton State Department.
00:41:02.000And governments seeking to buy arms got the same preferential treatment if they sent money the foundation's way, no matter what their human rights record.
00:41:08.000Clinton's department authorized 151 billion dollars in Pentagon broker deals for 16 of the countries that gave to the Clinton Foundation.
00:41:16.000While this is a video that presents Hillary Clinton as an affable, progressive voice of feminism and the progress of our culture, In a way, Hillary represents another set of values entirely.
00:41:27.000The ability of the military-industrial complex to provoke and participate in sometimes illegal foreign activity, the masking of the facts, the concealing of the consequences of American foreign policy, and a type of politics really that if we continue to pursue, as evidently we will be doing because another generation are being trained to think in exactly the same way, could bring us to the precipice and indeed the inaction of global Armageddon.
00:41:51.000Much of our focus has been upon the lessons that we are not learning, the lessons of the crimes committed on behalf of the neoliberal establishment of which Hillary Clinton is undoubtedly a key figure.
00:42:02.000But look at the false and erroneous lessons that are simultaneously being taught.
00:42:07.000In addition to teaching, she's literally teaching, Clinton will collaborate with senior faculty on global policy initiatives and ways to boost effective engagement with young people and women.
00:42:15.000That means these ideas are being perpetuated.
00:42:17.000These ideas and this mentality isn't going to change any time soon.
00:42:21.000It's not like, in spite of all the crises that we're continually discussing in the world, that this is a point of revision, some kind of reckoning.
00:42:29.000Another generation of people will be sent out into the world, from an Ivy League school, into the kind of institutions where often these people end up working, perpetuating the same kind of ideas, the same kind of mentality, so that the machine keeps on turning.
00:42:47.000Should we start looking realistically at what the consequences of some of the decisions we've made in the past are?
00:42:52.000It's a perpetuation of all of the ideas that Hillary Clinton stands for, rather than just the rehabilitation of a figure that ought to be, in my view, evaluated very differently.
00:43:01.000Now if you'll excuse me, Karen, I've gotta run.
00:43:07.000Hopefully to Yemen with a letter of apology.
00:43:10.000Also, Hillary Clinton, in addition to teaching at Columbia University, still very much participates in the ongoing geopolitical conversation.
00:43:17.000Here are some of her thoughts on Ukraine.
00:43:19.000The Ukrainian war has been one thing that's brought Democrats and Republicans together for the most part.
00:43:29.000But we're not doing it just because it's the right thing to do, although it is.
00:43:33.000We're doing it because we have to draw this line and make it very clear that in 2023, this kind of aggression cannot stand.
00:43:44.000Because the rhetoric has become so divorced from reality that you almost cannot take it seriously.
00:43:50.000Hillary Clinton still participates in the conversation around global politics in ways that I consider to be irresponsible.
00:43:58.000How can you not advocate for diplomacy and peace?
00:44:01.000How can you not acknowledge that you have deep, intrinsic, and financially beneficial relationships with the military-industrial complex while being on, oh look, MSNBC, advocating for ongoing war?
00:44:14.000to what's happening in Ukraine and all these things we talk about growing up that we learn
00:44:19.000to do. Suddenly the Ukrainians are fighting for what we've always said we were supposed to stand
00:44:27.000for. How inspiring is that to you? It's so inspiring to me.
00:44:30.000This is like a person who said it's time for the United States to start thinking of Iraq
00:44:35.000as a business opportunity. At worst Hillary Clinton should on Morning Joe be saying listen I know in
00:44:40.000the past I said crazy stuff like Iraq should be viewed as a business opportunity.
00:44:43.000I know I've participated in the droning of loads of Middle Eastern countries.
00:44:47.000I know that the Clinton Foundation accepts money from the military-industrial complex.
00:44:51.000But aside from all that, I actually have got quite strong views on how brave Ukrainian people are.
00:45:41.000Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the UK, disrupted it.
00:45:44.000I'm afraid that while I'm not cynical about humanity in general, I am cynical about the neoliberal establishment, its appointed elders and the ongoing attempts to present them as sort of like benevolent maiden aunts of the war machine.
00:46:37.000She is a product of her time and the institutions through which she has passed, as surely as we all are in one way or another.
00:46:44.000But we do have an obligation to critique and identify propaganda when we see it.
00:46:49.000The attempt to instantiate a class of elders that continue to advocate for war and present it as some sort of progressive and inclusive agenda It's not progressive for Somalian children.
00:47:00.000It's not progressive for the people of Iraq.
00:47:02.000It's not progressive for the Yemeni people affected by the kind of deals that Hillary Clinton has participated in.
00:47:07.000And I don't think it's progressive even for the young people being educated at Columbia because they're being sold a lie that's destroying the world that they live in.
00:47:16.000No one benefits from this except possibly Hillary Clinton.
00:49:08.000Again, I suppose the best way to look at this, I think, is from the perspective of media analysis and new and emergent grammar around the overhead shot and to continue to contrast this with what stories aren't told.
00:49:23.000As Gareth brought up earlier, the Blackstone acquisition of real estate that will mean
00:49:27.000that the WEF vision of you will own nothing and be happy comes closer to reality.
00:49:34.000No one is talking about Julian Assange even when they're condemning Russia for their treatment
00:51:15.000Now, but we... And also, Robert is literally talking to us on a camera from the scene, so it's quite possible that Robert will be in and out of signal.
00:52:15.000Actually, this gives off quite a nice vibe down at the courthouse.
00:52:20.000They should have, I think, coordinated the building work to have been over by the time... This scaffold being there... It's not working, is it?
00:52:28.000That's a visual disruption that you don't need.
00:52:55.000I mean, because all of the anticipation around it makes it Oh, look, I feel like I'm a rat in a maze.
00:53:01.000I've just been trained to appreciate particular visions as if it somehow personally affects me.
00:53:06.000The outcome of this trial will not affect me and I don't imagine anybody as much as, for example, Blackstone buying up all that property, Assange being able to be imprisoned without trial.
00:53:16.000The ability to control the information we get access to and the ability to purchase our homes is going to have a bigger effect.
00:53:23.000And look, what happens in the process?
00:53:25.000They're going to read his Miranda rights.
00:53:34.000I mean, once again, coming back to my point earlier on about the media benefiting from this, it is amazing, you know, especially your appearance on Bill Maher and the incident with the MSNBC guy.
00:53:44.000The idea that they've got any kind of morals around all this stuff when they're just showing this wall-to-wall.
00:53:48.000If they truly had morals and MSNBC believed that Trump was so awful, they'd say as a stance, we're not showing this then.
00:53:55.000We're not becoming part of the media circus around this because we believe in certain things that Donald Trump doesn't stand for.
00:54:02.000But we know that this is wall-to-wall coverage.
00:54:23.000And even the political parties, ultimately, because when you said that, I could sort of mentally envisage all of the figures that they look at in their quarterly reports.
00:54:35.000We just simply are unable to not report on this stuff.
00:54:38.000We are unable, like junkies, mainlining Trump day and night.
00:54:43.000They simply cannot just go, listen, we're not interested in that.
00:54:47.000And when it comes to the congressional and administrative aspects of this, similarly, they can't go, look, we're not going to focus on Donald Trump.
00:54:57.000Because actually, we're too busy ensuring that you have better lives, that your food improves, that your medicine improves, that we create better systems, that we address the geopolitical problems that are going to affect your life, the cost of living crisis.
00:55:13.000So they would rather have this conversation.
00:55:15.000Look at the grandeur of this, Gareth, now on NBC.
00:55:17.000Like, people sat round a table, one in red, one in blue.
00:55:20.000It seems so extraordinarily important, and for those of you that adore Trump, I know it's important to you as well, because you see it as evidence of corruption, and I wouldn't argue with that.
00:55:31.000It's plainly not about the issue that they claim it is.
00:55:36.000It's clearly political, no question about that, so there I totally agree with you.
00:55:41.000But just answer me this, do you not think, you guys watching this on Locals, that our duty is to sort of remain focused on what is truly important?
00:55:50.000And even I find it, well not even I, I'd be better than anyone else, I find it hard.
00:55:54.000Yeah, so they've got this now, this trial and this circus that's going on.
00:57:46.000I suppose, though, if you want to see how hysterical, grandiose and elevated this discourse has become, you can rely on Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:57:56.000She has her detractors, she has her fans, but in this interview, where she, I think, she's on her way to the court herself, wasn't she, for the arraignment, Arrangement's a word we've all got to know now.
00:59:38.000Either he was like a sort of apocalyptic preacher or he's a living avatar conveying the limitless power of God in human form that we may understand new frequencies of consciousness to bring about peace on earth.
00:59:51.000You're saying that's different in what way?
00:59:54.000I just wonder if Jesus would have started all those hotels.
00:59:57.000I don't know, because he might have gone, I don't know that we need... I suppose they do have the cross on the roof at a church, but I say that Jesus wouldn't have been down with that had he stayed around.
01:00:07.000How many contestants are in The Apprentice?
01:01:59.000Who's going to talk Trump through the tape?
01:02:01.000In a sense, you can cool the audio a little bit.
01:02:04.000It's like there's no piece of information that is so insignificant that they will not unpack it and analyze it.
01:02:12.000Now, please, I pray that we are not guilty of the same charge because I hope that what we are trying to convey to you is a opportunity to view a concurrent, deeper reality That there is a deeper spiritual reality right now.
01:02:26.000That there is a way that we can attack, change, amend systemic corruption.
01:02:32.000That there are ideas that can alter reality.
01:02:35.000I just don't feel we're discussing them on the mainstream media right now.
01:02:39.000It's new alliances, principles like service, willingness to sacrifice, willingness to listen to people that disagree with you.
01:02:44.000Boldness and bravery to give up stuff in your own life in order that you can become more focused on the great crusade, if crusade is too incendiary a word, mission, also an incendiary word actually, the pursuit of a fairer, better world for us individually and collectively.
01:03:17.000When we had Brianna Joy Gray on yesterday, she said that there's that one out of Georgia that's a bit more heavy, maybe, about meddling with something or whatever, wasn't it?
01:03:40.000If you've not seen him on our show before, what he does is he bothers people until they give him documents and then reveals what's in them.
01:03:51.000He's going to tell us about that 180 grand cancer drug that Biden, all the while pretending to care about cancer and everything, literally there's administration or legislation in place, the Bayh-Dole Act, where he could just stop that and help people suffering from cancer to get their drugs at a reasonable price.
01:05:01.000Go and read some Baudrillard and unpack that.
01:05:05.000The spectacle is generating itself, and as long as you're trapped within its prismic inauthenticity, you will not get the pure white light of truth.
01:05:14.000And I mean white transcendent of all other colours, holding all colours, holding all of us together.
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