Stay Free - Russel Brand - Mainstream Media Covid Meltdown With Kit Klarenberg - #064 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

00:00:00.000 So, I'm going to go ahead and start the video.

00:00:07.000 So, I'm going to start the video.

00:02:15.000 So, you're going to see the future.

00:02:18.000 I'm sorry.

00:02:19.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:02:27.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:02:29.000 Thanks for joining us for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:02:32.000 We are exclusive on Rumble for the whole show, but for the first 10 minutes, we'll be available on YouTube and, today, Twitter.

00:02:39.000 Hello, Elon.

00:02:40.000 Give us a tweet, Elon.

00:02:41.000 Elon, give us a tweet.

00:02:42.000 We're talking about, well, today we've got it all.

00:02:47.000 We'll be talking about the evolving narrative around coronavirus and the proposed potentially centralised solutions and who they benefited and where there are problems and potential blockages around the evolving narrative.

00:03:01.000 Of course, we have to be somewhat cautious in the manner we talk about this while we are on several platforms.

00:03:07.000 Once on Rumble, oh, the gloves come off!

00:03:10.000 Once we're on Rumble, then we use the freedom of speech to bring people together, to convey love and truth.

00:03:15.000 Certainly not to turn people against one another.

00:03:17.000 We've got no interest in that.

00:03:18.000 We're talking about the Ukraine war a little bit with our guest.

00:03:22.000 We're going to be talking about how the media cope with the evolution of this story.

00:03:27.000 In a sense, the problem is if you politicise information, you have a problem when you need to de-politicise that information.

00:03:37.000 Once you have to extricate the information, for example if the story changes around certain medications and the success of certain measures, you find yourself in a position where you have to de-politicise something that was politicised.

00:03:48.000 A fascinating phenomenon for anyone that's interested in observing media techniques and the difference between information and propaganda.

00:03:55.000 We've got a fantastic guest on that note.

00:03:57.000 Kit Clarenberg is joining us to talk to us about how US and UK intelligence agencies carry out spying and sabotage the amount of MIC, that's Military Industrial Complex for the uninitiated.

00:04:09.000 Oh yeah, I've got all sorts of acronyms.

00:04:10.000 how they invested in early big tech enterprises and perhaps how the

00:04:15.000 relationship between the state, the military-industrial complex and big tech

00:04:18.000 organizations continues to this day. And of course the Twitter files

00:04:22.000 hello Elon, give us a wave, how the Twitter files how they made it pretty clear that there was a revolving

00:04:30.000 door and a somewhat porous relationship between deep state agencies

00:04:34.000 and Twitter with obviously explicitly the FBI paying millions of dollars to

00:04:39.000 Twitter for some control Pfizer having the ability to censor tweets, lots of

00:04:43.000 fantastic stuff.

00:04:44.000 We've seen the same with other social media platforms as well, haven't we?

00:04:46.000 The Facebook files.

00:04:47.000 Facebook files as well.

00:04:48.000 You name it, there's a file for it.

00:04:50.000 Gareth Roy, on-screen assistant, producer of the show, man of mystery.

00:04:56.000 Time now for our item, the system is fine, don't collapse into existential despair.

00:05:06.000 Anyone who knows anything about Joe Biden knows that he spends most of his time in African-American churches.

00:05:12.000 That's what he does.

00:05:13.000 There's plenty of evidence for it.

00:05:14.000 He's always done it.

00:05:15.000 He's always been in there.

00:05:17.000 I'm surprised they don't find files in Africa.

00:05:20.000 If you want to know where the rest of them files are, get yourself down some evangelical church down south. 0.81

00:05:25.000 There'll be bundles of them there underneath the pews.

00:05:28.000 Look at this in the prayer book!

00:05:30.000 What's going on there on the collection plate?

00:05:32.000 That's where he spends all his holiday time.

00:05:34.000 He's in there on holiday, Hunter's there tapping away on the laptop.

00:05:37.000 Hunter!

00:05:39.000 But for someone who spends so much time in black American churches, check out the way he carries on when he's in them. 0.98

00:05:45.000 He don't look like someone who's particularly afraid of the environment.

00:05:49.000 It reminds me, if anything, of how I behaved when I was watching a boxing match with P. Diddy and Jay-Z.

00:05:55.000 Let's have a look.

00:06:02.000 In a sense, at the moment I'd say he's been, he's at risk of being a little too static.

00:06:09.000 Yes.

00:06:10.000 At least move a digit or a hand or something.

00:06:12.000 A wrist.

00:06:13.000 You don't want to overcompensate.

00:06:15.000 No.

00:06:15.000 You don't want to, like, sort of pretend you're having a real, like, lot of spirits moving.

00:06:19.000 Don't go too far.

00:06:19.000 No, no.

00:06:20.000 Don't overcompensate.

00:06:21.000 But you've got to show you're interested.

00:06:26.000 How about faster hands, I'll be people!

00:06:28.000 Yeah, give them the old, you want them eyebrows!

00:06:31.000 That'll convince them.

00:06:32.000 Testify, testify!

00:06:34.000 Vamos a go with the versus pattern!

00:06:37.000 Take me up! 0.91

00:06:38.000 Why not look around in vague bafflement, like an AI robot scanning the room for data?

00:06:47.000 Come on, the power of the leg is here!

00:06:51.000 The power of the leg is here!

00:06:55.000 Fling up your hands, almost in despair, the entire scenario!

00:07:00.000 I'm all alone, feeling in the atmosphere, the atmosphere!

00:07:06.000 Aww, he's some type of...

00:07:08.000 I remember that feeling.

00:07:10.000 If you go to a disco for example, your first maybe school disco or something, you're a bit embarrassed because you didn't really know how to dance and you just stand there and watch everyone else.

00:07:20.000 What shall I do with my face?

00:07:21.000 Exactly.

00:07:22.000 Or if you go to a place where people are perhaps using mood enhancing chemicals and you do not use mood enhancing chemicals.

00:07:28.000 Which we don't.

00:07:29.000 And certainly we don't endorse them.

00:07:30.000 Just move your face around.

00:07:32.000 Certainly Joe Biden doesn't know what to do with his body language with these ongoing revelations.

00:07:37.000 I do want to hear a little bit more about that.

00:07:38.000 Oh yeah, I do want to hear because of course this is all predicated on the idea that Joe Biden is never out of evangelical churches.

00:07:45.000 Apparently long-time congregants of the church that he's talking about told the Washington Free Breakin' at the time that they didn't recall Biden attending the church.

00:07:54.000 The revelation came about the same time Biden was forced to admit he repeated claims about being arrested in an apartheid era South Africa were also untrue.

00:08:02.000 So the person who was with us said, I was never arrested, and I don't think Biden was.

00:08:04.000 And then Biden had to say, I guess I wasn't arrested, I was stopped.

00:08:08.000 So he just keeps telling these tales.

00:08:10.000 They're really interesting tales, aren't they?

00:08:12.000 I was always down in churches, were you?

00:08:12.000 They are.

00:08:15.000 Because people might have known, because you've been a senator for like 40 years, so you'd probably be recognised as the only white person in a center.

00:08:21.000 I know, probably I was over in South Africa, sticking up for Nelson Mandela.

00:08:24.000 That's what I was doing most of the time.

00:08:26.000 Well, no one remembers that happening.

00:08:28.000 Well, I don't remember it either.

00:08:29.000 Yeah, well, Joe, you don't remember much, darling.

00:08:31.000 Where the hell do you keep your documents?

00:08:34.000 To be honest, he may have put these documents there thinking that they were a filing cabinet, but they're strewn.

00:08:40.000 About six more classified documents were found during a 13-hour search of Joe Biden's Delaware home, a lawyer said.

00:08:47.000 If you're watching us on Twitter or YouTube, stay with us because we're going to be talking in a little bit about the ongoing distinction in the way these stories are reported.

00:08:57.000 For example, The reporting on the revelation that Biden had classified documents in his homes versus the Trump revelations.

00:09:05.000 And again, we got no skin in the game.

00:09:06.000 We believe in systems that are transcendent of establishment interests and true democracy for you, freedom for the individual, democracy for the community.

00:09:14.000 That's what we believe in, just in case you're interested.

00:09:16.000 Later, we're going to be talking as well about some of the profits, the reporting and misinformation around the coronavirus pandemic and the lockdown.

00:09:23.000 And again, the struggle that the media are having adapting to this narrative.

00:09:28.000 Here's a mainstream media outlet reporting on Biden's documents.

00:09:32.000 Now pay attention to the rather anodyne bureaucratic language that's used to describe this problem in this instance.

00:09:38.000 Check it.

00:09:39.000 Our most recent ABC News Ipsos poll says 64% of those in the latest poll, and that was before this latest discovery, believed he acted inappropriately.

00:09:53.000 Having those classified documents, was it appropriate or inappropriate?

00:09:58.000 That's the language you would use for if someone farted at a meal, like a silent fart.

00:10:03.000 I remember when you did that and I thought it was inappropriate.

00:10:06.000 Right, inappropriate.

00:10:07.000 Shouldn't have done it.

00:10:08.000 Also, 64% of the table thought it.

00:10:09.000 So what are you guys saying?

00:10:10.000 It's not really appropriate.

00:10:11.000 We're trying to enjoy this noodle bar.

00:10:13.000 I'm enjoying the noodle bar myself.

00:10:15.000 When they're talking about Donald Trump, and again, I know a lot of you guys, you're well into Trump.

00:10:19.000 We believe that we need genuinely new systems.

00:10:22.000 However, look at how they report it.

00:10:23.000 It's like the noise of helicopters.

00:10:25.000 It's like the opening titles of the A-Team.

00:10:27.000 Donald Trump!

00:10:29.000 Stunning new revelations about those documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago.

00:10:33.000 Some were handed over by former President Trump, others seized in that controversial FBI search of his homes.

00:10:40.000 How concerning is this to you?

00:10:42.000 We didn't know what the documents were.

00:10:43.000 Why did this happen?

00:10:44.000 Serious, dangerous territory.

00:10:46.000 And today, new reporting that members of the White House staff believe Trump flushed printed pieces of paper down the toilet. 0.98

00:10:53.000 He was wiping his butt on America's history. 0.98

00:10:56.000 He was flushing the flag down his laboratory. 0.96

00:10:59.000 Any lengths to create a distinction between two entities and certainly two events that Aren't particularly different.

00:11:06.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:11:07.000 Let me know in the comments if you're on Twitter watching this.

00:11:09.000 Tweet about how you feel the mainstream media presents these stories in ways that create like almost a cataclysmic difference, whereas there simply isn't an objective difference.

00:11:21.000 Now, we've got a lot of examples of how around the pandemic, reporting got a little bit out of hand because of the politicization of information.

00:11:29.000 If you're watching this on YouTube, you know what kind of censorship goes on there, you beautiful awakening wonder.

00:11:34.000 If you're watching this on Twitter, you'll know how deeply state organisations infiltrated and indeed paid for a degree of control over what's supposed to be a private public forum.

00:11:44.000 A private forum, at least it's privately owned, available to the public.

00:11:47.000 Now, when we're talking about the pandemic, all we want is objectivity, transparency and clarity.

00:11:54.000 I don't believe that anyone should take advice from someone who's not qualified, and I don't believe that we should be hectored or bullied into taking a certain course of action unless it's legitimate science, not corporatized science.

00:12:05.000 Do you remember, though, when Don Lemon said this?

00:12:10.000 I think we have to stop coddling people when it comes to this and the vaccine, saying, oh, you can't shame them. 1.00

00:12:17.000 You can't call them stupid. 1.00

00:12:18.000 You can't call them silly. 1.00

00:12:19.000 Yes, they are. 0.99

00:12:20.000 The people who aided and abetted.

00:12:22.000 So given the revelations that have been coming out over recent months, you know, pay attention to what the Twitter files have shown us.

00:12:29.000 Pay attention to the new emergence.

00:12:31.000 Do you think that how the media reported on the pandemic at the beginning was responsible?

00:12:35.000 Do you think it was transparent?

00:12:36.000 Do you think there was an agenda?

00:12:38.000 Unconscious biases?

00:12:38.000 not particularly in relation to this story of course I will clarify.

00:12:41.000 You know, do you think that how the media reported on the pandemic at the beginning

00:12:46.000 was responsible?

00:12:47.000 Do you think it was transparent?

00:12:48.000 Do you think that there was an agenda?

00:12:50.000 Unconscious biases?

00:12:51.000 Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments, generate the content for yourself.

00:12:54.000 Do you think that Rachel Maddow, who I've, you know, I've got nothing against Rachel,

00:12:57.000 I think she's a lovely human being as a matter of fact, but do you think that Rachel Maddow

00:13:01.000 would have said this if the information we have now is accessible?

00:13:05.000 And do you think that this warrants a kind of an apology or redress?

00:13:09.000 It means that instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person to person, spreading and spreading, sickening some of them, but not all of them, and the ones that it doesn't sicken don't know they have it, and then they give it to even more people because they didn't recognize they were...

00:13:25.000 instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person.

00:13:28.000 There's a pretty enthusiastic endorsement.

00:13:29.000 And again, this is not criticism of Rachel Maddow.

00:13:32.000 It's saying that, oughtn't there be a more transparent

00:13:36.000 and clear conversation now, given some of the certainty and piety

00:13:40.000 that accompanied the onset of this pandemic, which however you regard it,

00:13:44.000 certainly created a good many financial opportunities and the opportunity for centralized authorities

00:13:49.000 to regulate and assert control, which is their de facto mentality, I would argue.

00:13:54.000 Have we got the Biden one or are we going to move on to this sort of sanction news story?

00:13:58.000 And Gareth, I can see that you're chomping at the bit to make one of your brilliant points.

00:14:01.000 Well, one point.

00:14:01.000 I mean, just to go along with what you were saying there, it's interesting that use of the word shame, isn't it, from Don Lemon there.

00:14:06.000 And yet you've got a situation now where we've literally found out that Covid-19 drug makers Pressure Twitter to censor activists pushing for a generic vaccine.

00:14:14.000 This wasn't about whether or not to have a vaccine or no vaccine.

00:14:17.000 It was a generic version, i.e.

00:14:19.000 one that wouldn't be profitable or as profitable for these big companies like Pfizer, etc.

00:14:24.000 When we talk about shame and shaming people...

00:14:27.000 Don Lemon should maybe not think about shaming unvaccinated people who are thinking for various reasons that they don't want to take some medicine.

00:14:33.000 But where's the shame for these companies?

00:14:35.000 I see what you're saying.

00:14:36.000 We don't need to get drawn on matters of vaccine efficacy, which is still subject to a good degree of censorship on certain platforms.

00:14:43.000 You can simply make the case But when we now know these organisations, whether it's the CDC or indeed in this case Pfizer, were removing unfavourable information like the promotion of generic vaccines, that's not anti-vax at all.

00:15:03.000 And in fact, there is a lot of examples now of reporting that's not remotely anti-vaccine.

00:15:09.000 Far from it.

00:15:10.000 Pro-vaccine, but just not pro-vaccine enough.

00:15:13.000 Not evangelical enough.

00:15:14.000 And again, this is our argument.

00:15:15.000 It's about the politicisation of information.

00:15:19.000 It's about making information overly incendiary, overly hyperbolic.

00:15:23.000 When even though we're accused sometimes of being conspiratorial, what we want is transparency, clarity, balance, individual freedom, community democracy.

00:15:31.000 We're not arguing for you to do anything in particular.

00:15:35.000 I don't know what's right for me.

00:15:36.000 Look at this card again, for God's sake.

00:15:37.000 They won't obviously shame Pfizer or any of these companies because they contribute quite a lot in advertising revenue.

00:15:43.000 It seems that continuing to condemn the individual, whether it's with regard to this story or other stories, is always favourable to making centralised and powerful organisations culpable for the influence and power that they assert over our social system.

00:15:59.000 This is a story.

00:15:59.000 Let's blow by dear old Joe.

00:16:01.000 I'm sure all of us can remember Joe Biden saying things that are pretty crazy.

00:16:04.000 There's a story now about this guy that bought a mansion on one of the quantitative easings for COVID payments.

00:16:13.000 You know they made all those payments in the States and he misspent the money on a bunch of mansions and stuff like that.

00:16:19.000 Now look at how they focus on an individual misusing an emergency funding package Presumably because it's exploiting, exploitative and profiteering for him to have taken advantage of such a program.

00:16:32.000 Have a look at how this is reported and then we've got some information about elsewhere.

00:16:36.000 Profits being made, power being consumed.

00:16:40.000 Check it.

00:16:40.000 Five, a mansion and expensive cars.

00:16:43.000 That's what the feds say a central Florida man bought with millions in PPP loans.

00:16:48.000 Fox 35 anchor Ray Vietta joining us live in the alert center.

00:16:51.000 So Ray, that man left the country.

00:16:54.000 That's right, Luann.

00:16:55.000 The U.S.

00:16:55.000 State Attorney says Don Sisternino was finally extradited from Croatia to Central Florida.

00:17:01.000 It's here where he'll be facing charges.

00:17:02.000 Those charges include wire fraud and aggravated identity theft from over a year ago.

00:17:07.000 Investigators say he went on a spending spree here in Seminole County.

00:17:12.000 Once he got his hands on over $7 million in loans from the Paycheck Protection Program, Investigators say he didn't spend a dime on qualifying expenses.

00:17:21.000 They say instead he brought a Lincoln Navigator, a Maserati, a Mercedes-Benz.

00:17:26.000 This is a story that's designed to direct our ire at somebody who's exploiting a program that's meant to benefit people.

00:17:34.000 Those of you with memories might recall that at the beginning of the pandemic, Albert Ball, a CEO of Pfizer, said it would be unconscionable to glean profits from a situation that was ultimately a health emergency, where it is our social collective duty to aid one another in a difficult time.

00:17:52.000 Well, Pfizer CEO Albert Baller received 24.3 million in total compensation for 2021.

00:17:58.000 Let's have a look at Moderna and what they received.

00:18:01.000 Oh, this is about, listen, Moderna considers pricing COVID vaccine at $110, 4,000% markup.

00:18:08.000 And I suppose this is as it transitions from being a government purchase product to a consumer product.

00:18:14.000 It shows, I suppose, that the drive for profits certainly had an impact on the way that this

00:18:21.000 entire pandemic was handled.

00:18:23.000 And we'll be talking about that in more depth once we're only on Rumble.

00:18:28.000 And let me assure you, because it means a lot to me that you know this and that you

00:18:32.000 believe this, that when we're on Rumble, we're there because we want to speak openly, transparently,

00:18:38.000 free from censorship.

00:18:40.000 And we use that freedom not to drive people apart from one another, but to bring people together.

00:18:45.000 Those of us on the boundaries, those of us on the peripheries, we have more in common with one another than all of the centralized authorities that benefit again and again from various crises and benefit from keeping us in the dark.

00:18:57.000 Rishi Sunak, a former WEF stooge, is my understanding, whose wife's family have strong ties with Davos and the WEF through their tech corporation.

00:19:07.000 Who was one of the founders of the hedge fund that invested heavily in Moderna, refuses to say if he will profit from the Moderna COVID vaccine.

00:19:16.000 He was a founding partner of the sort of hedge fund that started it.

00:19:20.000 Stock market filings show that that one, I think they called Faleem, I can't say that right.

00:19:25.000 There's $500 million investment in the US-based company Moderna, which accounts for around 20% of the money it manages at about $2.5 billion.

00:19:32.000 And Gareth, didn't we do a story and haven't we got a presentation later this week about the Moderna booster shots and its lack of efficacy Again, we're going to dive deeper into the politicisation of this information because we have no view on what is right for you, for your family, for your health.

00:19:49.000 We do have a view on how the media and how powerful central institutions have handled this story.

00:19:55.000 Oh my God, and what's this now in Forbes?

00:19:57.000 40 new billionaires who got rich fighting COVID.

00:20:00.000 I think the point with the media, again it's a bit shown in the last clip that we showed there, a way of sensationalizing something that an individual is at fault for.

00:20:08.000 And yeah, of course what that guy did is abhorrent and terrible and that's like public money that, you know, should have been spent like that.

00:20:14.000 Yeah.

00:20:15.000 But when they're reporting on that and spending 10 minutes talking about it, they're also not reporting on how Big Pharma is fighting for tight control over COVID-19 vaccine production, limiting availability worldwide while reaping billions.

00:20:26.000 So this is the pushing when people have been pushing for low cost vaccines, that again is a pro-vaccine story.

00:20:33.000 But Big Pharma are pushing against it.

00:20:35.000 In the same way with like Biden and Trump, it's not matched, the reporting.

00:20:39.000 One person does this, the other does that.

00:20:41.000 And it's reported in a sensational way for Trump and a non sensational way for Biden.

00:20:45.000 Pushing for low-cost vaccines is not an anti-vax stance.

00:20:49.000 That is a pro-vaccine stance, but anti-profiteering.

00:20:49.000 No.

00:20:54.000 So we think that all of these opinions, and particularly all of the science, ought to be invited into the conversation.

00:21:01.000 Sadly, that is not the world we're living in right now.

00:21:03.000 We've got some fantastic stories now.

00:21:05.000 If you're watching this on Twitter or on YouTube, join us now on Rumble, where we can speak freely.

00:21:10.000 And I'm going to undo my cardigan a little bit once we go on Rumble.

00:21:13.000 I'm going to be telling people some pretty feisty home truths, I'll tell you that Gareth.

00:21:17.000 Join us now over on Rumble, see you there.

00:21:21.000 Gareth, I want to watch that CNN clip where we, yeah I love this, we're doing a presentation

00:21:28.000 on this later in the week.

00:21:29.000 This is a lovely moment where we see that, like Don Lemon among them, some CNN news reporters

00:21:35.000 are confronted by their own medical expert, their own medical expert who's essentially

00:21:40.000 explaining the shifting narrative to them.

00:21:43.000 And that narrative amounts to this, the news, the mainstream news, the mainstream media,

00:21:47.000 tell me if you agree, tell me in the comments, tell me in the chat there, smash that Rumble

00:21:52.000 Oh god yeah.

00:21:52.000 Smash it hard.

00:21:53.000 Do you think, if you agree with this, they could have just said, listen, we're not sure how effective these vaccines are yet, they might be helpful for certain people, particularly the vulnerable people, it seems the lockdowns are ineffective, it's good for you to do exercise, you should probably take some vitamin D, we're not sure about masks, natural immunity, Appears to be effective.

00:22:10.000 They've done no tests on transmission, so we don't know whether or not the vaccines prevent transmission.

00:22:15.000 Doesn't look like it does.

00:22:17.000 It's probably up to you and for all of us to go on a learning journey together in a unique situation.

00:22:22.000 What they actually said was, stay in your house for the next two years, otherwise you've basically killed your grandmother. 0.97

00:22:28.000 You might as well kick your grandmother to death in the corridor if you're not going to do exactly what we say. 0.99

00:22:33.000 That's mobilising emotion. 1.00

00:22:35.000 That's using shame, as you said.

00:22:36.000 Well, yeah, exactly.

00:22:37.000 I think that's the worst thing about it, is that it wasn't just Don Lemon and that one comment he made.

00:22:42.000 That was the general tone, wasn't it, at the time?

00:22:44.000 Yeah.

00:22:44.000 It was a kind of dividing people, creating a two-tier society that the media played a huge part in, obviously driven a lot by pharmaceutical companies and the sponsorship of these media companies.

00:22:57.000 But a lot of the issues that now the media will talk about, oh, why do we have this society in which everything's so fractured?

00:23:02.000 Well, you played a huge part in it during the pandemic.

00:23:04.000 You did it.

00:23:05.000 You broke society and now we've got a bloody world living in it.

00:23:08.000 Let's have a look at this.

00:23:09.000 Look at the mainstream media grappling with the problems that they have created through their undue politicisation of what always have been a medical issue.

00:23:17.000 Check it.

00:23:19.000 33 states are showing increases of up to 50% or more deaths this week compared to last week.

00:23:25.000 In a Washington Post op-ed, Senate Medical Analyst and former Baltimore Health Commissioner Dr. Lena Nguyen asks, are some of these Americans dying from COVID or with COVID dying?

00:23:36.000 From COVID with COVID is almost like the catchphrase of people that quite early on, and let me know in the chat if this was you, was suspecting that something was not right, that we weren't being told the truth, that figures were being managed and manipulated.

00:23:49.000 Now, from with COVID, that's on CNN.

00:23:52.000 Like the Don Lemon that was saying people should be shamed, That dude wouldn't be going, oh there's probably some management of figures that's going on to make it favourable so they can justify extreme measures, which in retrospect looks like what happened.

00:24:04.000 There was an advantage inflating the nature of the problem in order to get people to be compliant.

00:24:09.000 Now my personal opinion is that's a type of tyranny and a relationship with the state and the media that I don't want.

00:24:15.000 I don't want my role to be that of a child who has to be startled and spooked into compliance.

00:24:22.000 I want a kind of plain, transactional relationship with these agencies.

00:24:26.000 We're the government.

00:24:27.000 Do you need us to collect your trash?

00:24:29.000 Do you need us to paint the roads, run the schools?

00:24:31.000 Do you want any foreign countries bombed?

00:24:32.000 No, don't bother doing that.

00:24:33.000 Leave that alone. 0.74

00:24:34.000 And here's some information about this pandemic.

00:24:36.000 And the media, well, I demand balance from them.

00:24:39.000 That's what I require from them.

00:24:41.000 Yeah, but they don't want to provide it because it's not in their interest for us.

00:24:43.000 I mean, it literally isn't.

00:24:44.000 They benefit from these kind of extreme bifurcations of society.

00:24:49.000 They literally push for it.

00:24:51.000 Why do you think Don Lemon's saying something like that?

00:24:53.000 They benefit from this in much the same way that, for example, politics in America benefits from having They applied a pro-Trump, anti-Trump mentality to a story that never deserved to have that inflection, that was always going to be a medical matter.

00:25:06.000 on the right because it benefits them. They're trying to create this society.

00:25:11.000 They applied a pro-Trump, anti-Trump mentality to a story that never deserved

00:25:15.000 to have that inflection, that was always going to be a medical matter. That's how

00:25:19.000 suddenly you get the liberal establishment fighting the interests of

00:25:23.000 Big Pharma and making Big Pharma into heroes. When was that, the

00:25:27.000 situation that Big Pharma were people that should be, institutions that should

00:25:31.000 be prized? It's only a couple of years ago that Pfizer were doing great big payouts.

00:25:35.000 It's not that long ago since the opioid crisis and suddenly it was

00:25:39.000 foreboding to question the Their intentions and their incentives.

00:25:44.000 Oh man, we've got to throw now to our presentation.

00:25:47.000 We're going to be taking an in-depth look at this story on our channel later this week.

00:25:52.000 It's a fantastic story.

00:25:53.000 You're going to love it, particularly when we combine it with the way that Moderna held back information about the lack of efficacy of their booster shot, presumably because if your booster shot ain't effective, you can't ask the government to give you five billion.

00:26:06.000 Dollars for it.

00:26:08.000 The FDA, of course, are the regulatory body that ensure that Big Pharma stay in check.

00:26:15.000 Bit of a problem.

00:26:16.000 Big Pharma funds them.

00:26:18.000 Now the FDA are, I believe, lobbying to bring in laws to restrict what doctors can advise their patients.

00:26:24.000 Once again breaking down relationships that While secular, have come to feel kind of sacred between us and physicians.

00:26:32.000 And once again, it's a place where you're starting to feel the creep of power into areas where it simply doesn't belong.

00:26:38.000 This is what we've got against centralized power and the WEF and all that stuff.

00:26:42.000 It's not like crazy conspiracy theory stuff.

00:26:44.000 It's like they're looking to create digital infrastructure.

00:26:46.000 We've got a fantastic story later this week about Tony Blair lobbying on behalf of these big tech platforms to ensure that all of us, you, me, everyone has to carry Digital ID, an agenda they had before the pandemic, an agenda they pushed during the pandemic, an agenda that they have now, even though much of the data suggests that people being tracked on the basis of whether or not they were vaxxed wouldn't have made any difference.

00:27:10.000 But now, let's have a look at this story about the FDA lobbying to be able to influence laws that will affect your relationship with your doctor.

00:27:20.000 Here's the news.

00:27:21.000 Here's the effing news.

00:27:23.000 Thank you for choosing Fox News.

00:27:25.000 Here's the news. 1.00

00:27:26.000 No, here's the fucking news. 1.00

00:27:28.000 You know who I hate? 1.00

00:27:30.000 Doctors.

00:27:31.000 Whether it's delivering babies or healing loved ones or being a friendly ear that you can rely on.

00:27:36.000 Thank God the FDA are pushing for a new bill whereby they'll be able to prevent doctors prescribing what they want.

00:27:42.000 I wonder if that will lead to more profits for Big Pharma because they've had a tough couple of years.

00:27:48.000 The FDA are pushing for a new bill which will prohibit your family doctor, if you're lucky enough to still have one, prescribing what they think's best for you in case it's at odds what benefits the profiteering big pharmaceutical industry.

00:28:02.000 Let's see how they're going to pull this one off those geniuses. 1.00

00:28:05.000 All of this seems a bit strange when Joe Biden claims we beat big pharma!

00:28:10.000 We beat Pharma this year!

00:28:12.000 How did you beat Big Pharma this year?

00:28:14.000 What kind of victory is it where they're profiting more than ever?

00:28:17.000 A little noticed provision of the omnibus spending bill could give the FDA power to ban off-label use of approved therapies.

00:28:25.000 Secreted within the 2023 Omnibus Appropriations Bill, 4,155 pages, oh god how boring, spending 1.7 trillion dollars that includes a record 858 billion dollars in military spending, oh god, oh it's so so boring I can't even focus on the corruption, the numbers are so big, is a 19 line section that could change the way medicine is practiced.

00:28:47.000 What I like when a seismic piece of legislation is being passed is to find it Created in a little-noticed piece of bureaucracy.

00:28:55.000 Literally, this will mean that your doctor will not be able to do what's best for you because they'll work for Big Pharma now.

00:29:02.000 And it's not like we saw during the opioid crisis the terrible negative effects of Big Pharma's influence on physicians, is it?

00:29:09.000 No, I'm being sarcastic.

00:29:10.000 That is what happened.

00:29:11.000 Physicians routinely prescribe drugs and employ medical devices that are approved and labeled by the Food and Drug Administration for a particular use, yet sometimes physicians discern other beneficial uses for these technologies, which they prescribe for their patients without specific official sanction.

00:29:27.000 The new legislation amends the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, or FDCA, to give the FDA the authority to ban some of these off-label uses of otherwise approved products.

00:29:37.000 This unwarranted intrusion into the physician-patient relationship threatens to undermine medical innovation and patient care.

00:29:44.000 The new provision was enacted at the FDA's urging in response to a decision by the U.S.

00:29:48.000 Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.

00:29:51.000 The case, Judge Rotenberg Education Center v. FDA, involved a 2020 final rule in which the FDA banned the use of an electrical stimulation device only in the treatment of self-injurious behaviors such as headbanging and self-biting.

00:30:05.000 I was misusing that device.

00:30:07.000 The court held that the FDA had the power to ban a medical device altogether under section 360F of the FDCA if it poses an unreasonable and substantial risk of illness or injury.

00:30:18.000 But barring a practitioner from prescribing or using an otherwise approved device for a specific off-label indication would violate another FDCA section which bars the FDA from regulating the practice of medicine.

00:30:29.000 So what they're looking for is a crafty, sly, insidious way to be able to intercede in your relationship with your physician.

00:30:38.000 And as usual, it's for your safety and for your benefit.

00:30:41.000 Oh my God, people are going to use this stimulating device for all sorts of ways.

00:30:44.000 And I suppose if we introduce new regulation, we'd be able to insist that you use our preferred medication however we wanted.

00:30:51.000 Therefore, Big Pharma, who who pay for the FDA by the way in a significant portion,

00:30:55.000 will be able to tell their shareholders that we're likely to get this amount of profit over the next quarter

00:30:59.000 because we're controlling what doctors are prescribing to their patient.

00:31:03.000 But that's just a side benefit, your safety first, eh?

00:31:05.000 The Omnibus Bill amends section 360F to allow a finding that a device can pose an unreasonable risk

00:31:11.000 for one or more intended uses and ban those uses while leaving it approved for other uses.

00:31:16.000 Since the new provisions lets the FDA skirt the ban on interfering with the practice of medicine

00:31:20.000 by banning devices for particular uses, the agency will likely claim this is a precedent, allowing

00:31:26.000 it to ban off-label uses of drugs as well.

00:31:28.000 Are you saying that the FDA may not be transparent and clear and keep patient care at the heart of all its policies, putting pharmaceutical profits ahead of the well-being of ordinary people? 0.98

00:31:37.000 Don't be so dis- Disgusting! 0.96

00:31:39.000 This is a problem for many reasons. 0.97

00:31:41.000 The statute gives the FDA the power without any public input to prevent patients access to off-label therapies even though their physicians and their patients have found the treatments to be beneficial or even essential.

00:31:53.000 Why would you want Big Pharma and a regulatory body that they fund interfering in your relationship with your doctor about your health?

00:32:00.000 Have they not found enough ways to extract revenue from you to To put your health second?

00:32:05.000 To put your well-being way, way behind their profits in their list of priorities?

00:32:09.000 Why is the bias moving even further in that direction while the President of America claims that Big Pharma has been beaten this year?

00:32:16.000 Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments.

00:32:18.000 Yet, one in five prescriptions written are for an off-label use.

00:32:21.000 This indicates a degree of freedom that physicians currently have that will be foreclosed.

00:32:25.000 And also it just shows this is a licensing law.

00:32:27.000 This is not about medicine.

00:32:28.000 This is about licensing.

00:32:29.000 This is about profits, patents, the ability to extract revenue.

00:32:33.000 It's not about, oh God, what can we do to help people that have got cancer and diabetes and are addicted to opioids?

00:32:38.000 Well, we did addict them to opioids.

00:32:39.000 I know, but surely there's a profitable way to get them off them.

00:32:41.000 No, there isn't.

00:32:42.000 I'm afraid they're all dead.

00:32:43.000 Oh, well.

00:32:43.000 Should we start selling coffins?

00:32:45.000 In some fields, off-label use is the rule, not the exception.

00:32:48.000 In oncology, the standard treatment for specific types or stages of cancer often includes the off-label use of one or more drugs.

00:32:55.000 And off-label uses are routine in pediatrics, where scientific, ethical, and logistical concerns preclude conducting large trials for approval in children.

00:33:03.000 Because a lot of people don't want clinical trials done on their children.

00:33:07.000 Allowing the FDA to ban certain off-label uses will impair clinical progress.

00:33:11.000 Off-label use enables physicians to assess their patients' unique circumstances and use their own evolving scientific knowledge in deciding to try approved products for new indications.

00:33:19.000 Substituting regulators' wisdom for the cost-benefit judgment of physicians and their patients will discourage attempts to use approved products in new and beneficial ways and deprive patients of valuable treatment.

00:33:29.000 But who cares about that?

00:33:30.000 The FDA has moved from an entirely taxpayer-funded entity to one increasingly funded by user fees paid by manufacturers that are being regulated.

00:33:38.000 The pharmaceutical industry funding alone has become so dominant that last year it accounted for three quarters, or 1.1 billion, of the agency's drug division budget.

00:33:46.000 And obviously that's going to impact the type of medications that are approved, the type of therapies that come to the forefront, and now with this new piece of legislation, the inability for your physician to prescribe to you what they think is best for your health.

00:33:59.000 Outrage of this nature first came to our attention when last year California Governor Gavin Newsom sought to intercede in what your doctor could tell you regarding your old friend coronavirus.

00:34:08.000 California lawmakers are looking to tackle medical misinformation head-on.

00:34:13.000 The state legislature approved a bill that could punish doctors for spreading false claims about COVID-19.

00:34:18.000 It's interesting to watch the creep from misinformation and disinformation being the domain of conspiracy theorists to the domain of doctors and physicians.

00:34:28.000 It's very easy to begin popularizing the term misinformation and disinformation when the image you have of the purveyors of this type of data is outlaws on the internet coming up with unsubstantiated theories.

00:34:40.000 But when it's like your doctor who you know and have a relationship with, if you have that Do you remember that we used to be invited to prize and cherish doctors and nurses and care workers as devoted people, dedicated to helping you and serving you?

00:35:05.000 But now that their advice and recommendations and medical expertise might be at odds with the pursuit of profit and the will and agenda of pharmaceutical giants, They have to be recast as villains and conspiracy theorists.

00:35:23.000 But of course when they say scientific data they mean approved scientific data and scientific data is more likely to have been approved if it leads to profit and we can see Now, how legislation is creating the conditions for only certain pieces of information to be prized.

00:35:39.000 That's why in an age where all of us have access to information in new ways, they have to create terms like misinformation and disinformation and pretend that there's such a thing as objective science that's simple and devoid of conflict.

00:35:51.000 What we're seeing over the course of the pandemic is new narratives that were suspected early on becoming more and more popularized because There were experts at the very beginning that said, whoa, whoa, whoa, this type of vaccine could be complicated.

00:36:02.000 But what was happening during that environment?

00:36:04.000 Lobbying, corporate interests, all those things rose to the forefront because of established relationships and patterns, because of the revolving doors, because of the conflicts of interest, and more importantly, the convergence of interest.

00:36:16.000 Now what they're trying to do is instantiate in law endless profiteering and trying to create conditions where dissent and opposing voices are automatically nullified.

00:36:26.000 Get that law coming down on those health officials. 0.95

00:36:27.000 the medical licenses of these health individuals if they are caught spreading that misinformation

00:36:33.000 and being proponents of that disinformation. And that's where the law really comes down

00:36:38.000 on health officials. Get that law coming down on those health officials. That's what the law's 1.00

00:36:42.000 there for, isn't it? Right now you've seen of course like Twitter discourse and other social

00:36:45.000 media discourse where these health officials or experts, you know, are able to freely tout

00:36:50.000 their opinion or speak about what the information they feel is the best.

00:36:56.000 Can't have experts touting their opinions just because they've dedicated their lives to learning what that opinion is formed on.

00:37:02.000 Do you remember it used to be like the war against drugs and the war against terror?

00:37:05.000 Now it's the war against doctors and experts.

00:37:08.000 Who are we gonna have wars against now?

00:37:10.000 Everyone!

00:37:10.000 And so this really would help put an end to that, especially if we're going into an era of more focus on public health outbreaks and messaging.

00:37:21.000 AB2098, signed into law by California Governor Gavin Newsom, qualifies spreading COVID-19 misinformation as unprofessional conduct and makes it punishable as such.

00:37:31.000 It declares that physicians and surgeons who disseminate or promote misinformation or disinformation related to COVID-19, including false or misleading information regarding the nature and risks of the virus, its prevention and treatment, and the development, safety, and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines should be subject to disciplinary action, which could result in the loss of the doctor's medical license.

00:37:51.000 Looking at some of the tests that the CDC are now undertaking for themselves, looking at some of the information that's available from Pfizer and Moderna's own clinical trials, it seems that these physicians who are being prevented from advising their patients according to their conscience or their own understanding were in fact in the right, at odds with this legislation.

00:38:09.000 Do you imagine that this new FDA-backed legislation might take us to a similar place, where centralized corporate power yield the stick over genuine expertise and real-life experience?

00:38:19.000 Doctors fearing loss of their livelihoods will need to hew closely to the government line on COVID science and policy, even if that line does not track scientific evidence.

00:38:29.000 If the evidence contradicts the required outcome of the pharmaceutical corporate elite, then they will simply punish physicians financially for going with their own consciences.

00:38:39.000 After all, until recently, top government science bureaucrats like Dr. Fauci claimed that the idea that COVID came from a Wuhan laboratory was a conspiracy theory rather than a valid hypothesis that should be open to discussion.

00:38:50.000 A loss of license would be career-ending for doctors who spend their lives caring for patients, but since examples cited in the bill are themselves misleading, even physicians who practice medicine responsibly or give public presentations grounded in solid scientific research on the evolving COVID science may face unjust license suspensions.

00:39:07.000 The ultimate effect of the bill will be to chill public criticism by California doctors of mistaken government public health diktats since few will want to put their licenses in the hands of the very public health officials with whom they disagree over the interpretation of science.

00:39:21.000 Even legitimate dissent from public health orthodoxy by licensed doctors may be excised from the public square as a consequence.

00:39:27.000 Worse, the widespread distrust Americans now have in public health institutions will only deteriorate further.

00:39:33.000 So we can see that as evidence emerges that what we were told with such certainty and confidence in the early days of the pandemic is demonstrably false, legislation and regulation emanating from the centre from corporate interests and agencies that are meant to regulate them will prohibit legitimate debate, prohibit dissenting voices and grant yet further opportunities to make profit and prevent doctors acting on their consciences in your benefit.

00:39:59.000 But the good news is, we beat Big Pharma this year!

00:40:02.000 Can you see how the system cooperates and corroborate one another's lies in order to maintain ongoing systemic abuse?

00:40:10.000 It seems to me that the system is willing to cooperate and corroborate one another's lies, whether it's the FDA, the pharmaceutical industry, or government bodies, or judicial bodies, in order to maintain a profitable situation in which dissent is impossible.

00:40:24.000 But that's just what I think.

00:40:25.000 Let me know what you think in the comments.

00:40:27.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.

00:40:28.000 Thank you for choosing Fox News.

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00:40:30.000 Good day.

00:40:31.000 No. 1.00

00:40:32.000 Here's the fucking news! 1.00

00:40:36.000 There you are. 1.00

00:40:37.000 Hopefully now you feel a little better equipped to deal with the complexity of the modern world.

00:40:43.000 The contradictions, the hypocrisy, the corruption, the inability of the mainstream media to responsibly report complex stories.

00:40:52.000 Because there's obvious evidence of a convergence of interest in so many cases, whether it's the presentation we just gave you, Or many of the areas of the obvious expertise of our next guest, Kit Clarenberg.

00:41:06.000 He's a British investigative journalist writing for Greyzone, and we're going to be speaking to him now about potential deep state and big tech involvement in the Ukrainian conflict.

00:41:17.000 Kit, thanks for joining us, mate.

00:41:18.000 It's my pleasure, Ross.

00:41:20.000 How's it going?

00:41:21.000 I feel okay.

00:41:23.000 Where are you now?

00:41:24.000 I'm in Serbia, the last free country in Europe. 0.98

00:41:28.000 God, bloody hell. 0.80

00:41:29.000 Why is that? 0.98

00:41:30.000 Why are you saying that?

00:41:31.000 Oh, well, it's not part of NATO or the EU.

00:41:33.000 I mean, it's surrounded by this swarming sea of US and Brussels satraps, so maybe it's only a matter of time.

00:41:41.000 They'll be in NATO.

00:41:42.000 Sooner or later, someone will provoke them or some resource will be discovered or some strategic reason will be uncovered why they need NATO's protection.

00:41:51.000 Be a shame if something happened to it.

00:41:51.000 Nice country.

00:41:54.000 Mate, can you tell us a little bit about Anomaly 6 and how Anomaly 6's tech has been used by British intelligence agencies and even potential UK involvement in that sort of rather seismic, symbolic and brutal bridge bombing in Crimea?

00:42:11.000 Sure.

00:42:11.000 Well, I mean, these two things are interconnected.

00:42:13.000 So, there's a U.S.

00:42:15.000 private spying firm called Anomaly 6, which is rather shadowy.

00:42:19.000 There's been virtually no acknowledgement of its existence in the media.

00:42:25.000 Its unique selling point is that it can track individual smartphone data signals, and then by carving through layers of allegedly anonymous data, it can pinpoint precisely a device's owner's identity, Where they live, their marital status, where they work, you know, in some cases, photos of their children and where these people go to school and university, which is deeply disturbing.

00:42:50.000 This is being deployed in the Ukraine proxy war by Britain's Defense Intelligence Agency.

00:42:56.000 It's being used to help the Ukrainians plan offensives, target shelling strikes, potentially even plan assassinations.

00:43:07.000 So, yeah, I mean, this is being done in typically British fashion, entirely secretly, without the public's knowledge or consent.

00:43:16.000 And, yes, the company delivering it is called Prevail Partners.

00:43:20.000 They're a private military company staffed by elite U.K.

00:43:24.000 Special Forces veterans, SAS, SBS.

00:43:28.000 Yeah.

00:43:29.000 There are a number of documents and emails that the Grey Zone has reported on which show

00:43:33.000 that Prevail Partners and this incredibly sinister individual called Chris Donnelly,

00:43:37.000 a longtime NATO and British defense advisor, were intimately involved in the planning of

00:43:42.000 Kirkbridge and were very, very, very keen to go far further than what actually transpired,

00:43:49.000 which was a fairly low-level truck bombing which caused minor structural damage to the

00:43:54.000 kind of civilian portions of that structure.

00:43:59.000 Initially they planned to use underwater drones and missiles to destroy its foundations.

00:44:06.000 There was talk of sailing a boat laden with ammonium nitrate underneath it and blowing it up.

00:44:13.000 It was the Beirut blast in 2020, which killed hundreds, injured thousands and caused untold amounts of damage to the local area in every way.

00:44:23.000 It was approvingly cited as a model to follow, which I would suggest that raises obvious questions about who or what lit the blue touch paper, so to speak, in that case.

00:44:33.000 But yes, so, I mean, it seems fairly clear that Britain has been heavily involved in, quote-unquote, pressuring the Biden administration.

00:44:41.000 Biden is perceived as very cautious, cowardly, if anything, for fearing this could escalate

00:44:48.000 into a nuclear war, which is a very obvious, if not inevitable, outcome of endlessly provoking

00:44:53.000 and escalating against a very well-armed nuclear power.

00:44:57.000 But these lunatics seem to subscribe to the idea that if Russia is suitably provoked,

00:45:02.000 it'll actually back down, and therefore it's necessary to engage in all sorts of incendiary 0.86

00:45:08.000 acts which are going to result in massive retaliations against the poor Ukrainian people.

00:45:18.000 As you grapple with this staggering information and also presumably observe the mainstream media's inability and unwillingness to report on this type of complexity, Do you sometimes feel sort of startled and terrifying?

00:45:37.000 One of the things we're talking about in today's show is the mainstream media's inability to recalibrate as data around vaccine efficacy in the inefficiency of lockdowns and changing information around the last couple of years and what we ought to do now as well as the huge profits made by pharmaceutical companies.

00:45:59.000 And it seems to me that almost everything has become imbued with an ideological perspective that prevents

00:46:09.000 clarity and transparency.

00:46:11.000 And the kind of reporting that you're doing over there at the Grayzone,

00:46:14.000 and we've spoken to a few of your colleagues, seems now to be a marginal interest,

00:46:21.000 hopefully not in terms of the amount of attention you get and the kind of people that get access to the information

00:46:25.000 you're reporting on.

00:46:26.000 But certainly in terms of the driving ideology of a truly intrepid spirit of investigation.

00:46:34.000 How do you deal with this, mate?

00:46:35.000 Because it doesn't seem like it's something that's going to get any better, although with the access to information that we have, aside from this You know, push for censorship built around this misinformation and disinformation stuff.

00:46:48.000 It seems that, you know, there are ways to get this information out there.

00:46:51.000 I guess what I'm asking you is, whether it's the pandemic, this conflict in Ukraine, there seems to be a sort of a template that's being applied of making everything ideological and simplifying the stories.

00:47:03.000 Are you a bit scared?

00:47:06.000 And what do you think we can do to oppose it?

00:47:09.000 Well, I mean, I think it's better to have tried and been right and failed than to have not tried at all.

00:47:15.000 And I think on issue after issue after issue, we've demonstrated at The Grey Zone that we've not only been far ahead of the curve in terms of getting to the actual truth of matters in the mainstream, but also we've been consistently on the right side of history.

00:47:29.000 We were, you know, from the very outbreak of the Covid-19 pandemic, warning that this was going to be weaponised for the purposes of social control and surveillance.

00:47:38.000 We were pilloried as COVID-denying anti-vaxxers and lunatics, and we lost a lot of allies as a result.

00:47:45.000 And now the mainstream media is slowly but surely acknowledging that, yes, this is precisely

00:47:49.000 what's happened all over the world, and it has created vast reservoirs of new illicit

00:47:55.000 sensitive data on private citizens, which, you know, spying agencies and security services

00:48:01.000 can exploit and draw upon at will without a warrant or without any oversight or without

00:48:07.000 anyone consenting to this.

00:48:09.000 So yeah, I mean, we are, to a certain extent, plowing the lonely furrow, although, I mean,

00:48:14.000 I've been very taken aback by the attention some of our recent output on the war in Ukraine

00:48:20.000 has generated.

00:48:21.000 You know, our reporting on the Kerch Bridge attack and the subsequent article in which

00:48:27.000 we outlined how this same kind of criminal nexus of spooks and war criminals in conjunction

00:48:34.000 with the Odessa security service were creating a secret partisan terror army to carry out

00:48:40.000 incendiary acts in and around Crimea.

00:48:42.000 It's got an enormous amount of attention the world over.

00:48:44.000 It was picked up in media as far afield as Croatia and Singapore and Belgium.

00:48:50.000 Of course, you know, the English-language media is silent, but that doesn't mean that we aren't seen as a threat and, indeed, a large number of people Don't read us and find our work invaluable and influential.

00:49:03.000 That's precisely why we're considered so dangerous and why there are ongoing efforts to malign

00:49:07.000 us as tools of the Kremlin or the Chinese Communist Party.

00:49:12.000 We aren't, although I would say that, wouldn't I?

00:49:16.000 I think that what this proxy war has demonstrated is a yes that any dissenting opinion is going

00:49:25.000 to be penalized and censored.

00:49:26.000 And in some cases, you know, in parts of Europe, people are ending up in jail for breaking with their government's line on what's happening in Ukraine, even if what they're saying is near factual.

00:49:38.000 But I think that this narrative seems to be running adrift now, like increasingly.

00:49:44.000 It is being acknowledged in the Western media slowly but surely that this is actually an unwinnable quagmire.

00:49:50.000 And I think even Ukrainian officials have admitted that, well, our job here is to fight NATO's war for them and bleed on behalf of, you know, Berlin and Paris and Washington and London.

00:50:02.000 I mean, the extent to which the Ukrainians themselves, let alone their proxy state supporters,

00:50:08.000 sorry, their proxy war supporters, are going to tolerate the state of affairs remains to

00:50:14.000 be seen.

00:50:15.000 But, you know, there is a changing tide, and that wouldn't happen if there weren't an increasing

00:50:21.000 number of people questioning what they're being told and making clear they know that

00:50:24.000 they're being lied to and they're not happy about it.

00:50:28.000 It's clear that there are various sets of convergent interests that are at least collaborating

00:50:38.000 in order to control the narrative.

00:50:40.000 Can you tell us a little bit about the relationship between big tech and in particular the US and UK governments, historically what that relationship has been, what the financial aspects of that relationship are in terms of current contracts, but also At the point of inception of many of these big tech organisations, if there is a financial relationship.

00:51:02.000 And after that, we have a very special moment where Gareth, the co-host of the show, will ask you what I'm calling Gareth's special question, where you will be sort of somehow spiritually obliged to say what a great question it is and how it's changed you as a journalist.

00:51:18.000 But first, could you do with my humble and boring question about the relationship between big tech and Western governments, please?

00:51:27.000 Well, I mean, I think, you know, on a very basic level, you know, the Internet itself was conceived as a weapon, was intended to operate as a weapon, and indeed has, for, you know, the course of its existence, operated as a weapon.

00:51:27.000 Sure.

00:51:40.000 You know, I mean, it's often said, if a service is free, then you are—an online service is free, then you are the product.

00:51:46.000 You know, that's true, but, you know, you are also the target and the victim.

00:51:51.000 You know, the origins and, you know, the cause of the success of major household tech brands such as Google and Amazon, Microsoft,

00:51:59.000 is to a large extent attributable to vast contracts with the US national security sector,

00:52:07.000 particularly in the wake of 9-11, when there was a global but also domestic scramble by the

00:52:13.000 US and its allies to equip themselves with high-tech systems of surveillance, of

00:52:20.000 tracking, of invasive software to keep a constant eye on what their populations and indeed target

00:52:26.000 populations overseas are doing at any one time.

00:52:30.000 Google's origins lie in the US intelligence community in the mid-90s, offering a grant

00:52:37.000 to universities to come up with a technology that would allow the CIA and the NSA and others

00:52:45.000 to monitor what individuals and groups were looking at online.

00:52:49.000 Sergey Brin, one of Google's founders, used to give direct briefings to representatives

00:52:55.000 of the CIA and defense contractors.

00:52:57.000 He would very cheerily appear at meetings wearing rollerblades and give a status update

00:53:03.000 on how Google was doing.

00:53:06.000 This is all public record, but it's completely hidden.

00:53:11.000 Amazon, likewise, the most profitable part of its business has never been, or at least

00:53:16.000 to a large extent, has rarely been.

00:53:19.000 It's not just the six-year consumer products.

00:53:20.000 It's the tens of or even hundreds of billions it has reaped from contracts with the National

00:53:27.000 Security Agency, with the CIA.

00:53:29.000 Now, what's really striking is that it is absolutely unprecedented for these agencies,

00:53:35.000 which are by their very nature very secretive and wary of outsiders, to outsource storage

00:53:42.000 of the vast amounts of private data they hoover up every day on citizens the world over via

00:53:48.000 their global dragnet, the Five Eyes finding network.

00:53:51.000 But, you know, Amazon seems to be highly trusted and has numerous contracts with these agencies

00:53:56.000 for doing just that.

00:53:58.000 Now, recently, I believe it was last year, there was something of a scandal where an Amazon Fire – I mean, it's their Internet of Things device, you know, that thing that constantly listens to you and you can give it orders to play certain songs or find things for you on Internet search engines – yeah, they downloaded their data related to their use of this device.

00:54:18.000 And it was a number of itemized and extremely well-archived recordings of them talking to

00:54:23.000 their device with the nature of their request and the time and date that they made it.

00:54:29.000 Now, one of the few rays of sunshine to arise from the Edwin Snowden revelations was the

00:54:35.000 NSA and CIA could not successfully or effectively categorize or order private data that they

00:54:43.000 collected.

00:54:44.000 And, you know, Amazon's consumer platform tends to suggest that they now can.

00:54:50.000 It's good, mate, because you speak so quickly, so rapidly, with such a beautiful vocabulary, that when you stop, I feel like if you were in the room, I might kiss you.

00:55:00.000 Now, it's time now for Gareth's special question.

00:55:04.000 Well, that's a lot of pressure.

00:55:05.000 Good.

00:55:06.000 No, Kit, we were talking today about an article that you... Don't try and bond with Kit about your earlier chat!

00:55:13.000 Let the question speak for itself!

00:55:14.000 Sure, sure, sure.

00:55:16.000 Yeah, about the relationship, I guess, with big tech and the war on terror, and how, at the moment, obviously, we're hearing a lot about ways in which we didn't know that agencies like the CIA and FBI have been involved in censorship of, you know, all sorts of things, including, you know, Facebook and Twitter.

00:55:33.000 But I think people, as you kind of spoke before, people don't really necessarily know how big the relationship between these companies and, you know, the Department of Defense and all these and military industrial complex are.

00:55:46.000 And I wondered, in line of the way that people are talking about Ukraine being used as a kind of weapons lab now for You know, missiles and all sorts of rockets.

00:55:56.000 Is there a way in which, and obviously you spoke about Anomaly 6, is there a way in which big tech is being used in the war in Ukraine in a way that kind of corresponds to what's happening with the weapons?

00:56:08.000 That's a kind of, in future we can look forward to, you know, more, even kind of worse uses for big tech and its alignment with these kind of companies like the Department of Defense, etc.

00:56:20.000 Sorry that was so long.

00:56:22.000 Oh, no, that's fine.

00:56:23.000 That's fine.

00:56:24.000 I mean, I think that it's important, again, to bear in mind that the U.S.

00:56:29.000 And it's assorted blackies, you know, in particular Britain. 0.95

00:56:33.000 They view every conflict, even, you know, kind of low-level civil unrest, as occurred

00:56:40.000 in eastern Ukraine for eight years, which was, you know, brutally cracked down upon

00:56:44.000 by post-Maydan coup authorities, including through the use of far-right militias like

00:56:50.000 the Azov Battalion, which, you know, contrary to the mainstream media's claims, has absolutely

00:56:55.000 not reformed itself and remains, you know, an intensely neo-Nazi organization to its

00:57:00.000 very core.

00:57:01.000 You know, they always see, they always keep a very close eye on these conflicts, because

00:57:08.000 then they're planning for the next one.

00:57:10.000 And, you know, a core component of this is how the war is sold at home.

00:57:15.000 I mean, you know, I think, as I mentioned, there is a huge sea change afoot at the moment in the way that the media is framing the war.

00:57:22.000 I mean, there was a remarkable incident last year when Nord Stream 2 was attacked and blown up, and the entire media, despite the fact there was no evidence indicating it was Russia, despite the fact it would make no sense for Russia to blow up its own pipeline, which it constructed at great expense and was a key source of government revenue—yeah, Moscow was blamed for this.

00:57:49.000 There was all sorts of frenzied speculation about, you know, why the dastardly Putin would want to do—you know, engage in an act of self-harm like this.

00:57:57.000 And, you know, now the media is slowly but surely admitting that, oh, actually, yeah,

00:58:03.000 we don't know who did it, and governments probably do know, but they're not saying.

00:58:07.000 You know, I mean, that's a very marked shift, because at the start of this conflict it seemed

00:58:12.000 that no matter how ridiculous a pronouncement made by the Ukrainian government or the U.S.

00:58:17.000 government about what, you know, the reality of the front line, of, you know, all of these

00:58:22.000 stories of, you know, unbridled Ukrainian heroism, you know, grandmas taking down Russian 0.99

00:58:28.000 jets with jars of pickles, you know, that was, you know, universally reported on as

00:58:35.000 incontestable fact.

00:58:37.000 There is a break in the matrix, you know, to a certain extent.

00:58:41.000 And yet, as I say, that is a result of people power.

00:58:44.000 We see a similar thing with COVID.

00:58:46.000 For 18 months, Western governments very successfully managed to terrify their populations into

00:58:52.000 submission, you know, compelling them to adhere to all of these, you know, potentially unscientific,

00:58:59.000 potentially even harmful COVID reduction measures.

00:59:03.000 You know, the effects of this linger on in the general population to a large extent.

00:59:09.000 But it was because of people power.

00:59:10.000 I mean, there was one stage where it seemed like, I mean, at least in Britain they were

00:59:14.000 pushing towards a COVID passport system whereby you would need every six months to get a booster

00:59:20.000 in order to, you know, enter a shop to buy, you know, basic goods.

00:59:26.000 You know, they didn't get away with it.

00:59:27.000 But what about the next time?

00:59:29.000 because there will be a next time.

00:59:31.000 Kit Clarenberg, thank you very much for that fantastic download.

00:59:35.000 Thanks for joining us from Serbia.

00:59:37.000 You can find Kit's work on The Grey Zone and you can presumably follow him on social media

00:59:42.000 for the brief time before the deep state catches up with him

00:59:45.000 and extricates him from his terrifying freedom.

00:59:49.000 Kit, thanks, man.

00:59:51.000 Thank you.

00:59:52.000 Thank you.

00:59:52.000 That's lovely, mate.

00:59:53.000 It was lovely to speak with you.

00:59:55.000 It was a fantastic conversation there with Kit, another brilliant guest committed to bringing complex truths to you through us, and occasionally with Gareth's special question.

01:00:06.000 We've got some of your comments from the chat.

01:00:08.000 Mdevol about Joe Biden.

01:00:10.000 Come on, Joe.

01:00:11.000 Let the spirit move you, baby.

01:00:14.000 Yeah, you should have let that spirit move in.

01:00:15.000 And then, Don, Lemon, Justin, Valentine, the corporate media is holding up the boo cards for us now.

01:00:20.000 It's good to hear Kit exemplarise and unpack some of the things that we're experiencing when it comes to media reporting.

01:00:28.000 Well, he seems to think, in response to my big question, he seems to think the next issue that we're going to have to face is things like digital ID.

01:00:37.000 That's what I kind of took from that, what he was saying.

01:00:39.000 That's what they're pushing for, the way in which... Can we resist it?

01:00:42.000 Well, just us two.

01:00:44.000 Mainly us two.

01:00:45.000 Us two.

01:00:45.000 Okay, yeah, I'll resist it.

01:00:47.000 And everyone else, resist it as well.

01:00:49.000 Just go, I'm not having it.

01:00:49.000 I don't want a digital ID.

01:00:51.000 Oh, it's convenient.

01:00:52.000 It's safe.

01:00:52.000 You better buy things with the tip of your finger.

01:00:54.000 I already do buy things with the tip of my finger.

01:00:56.000 I'm like E.T.

01:00:57.000 out and about down the supermarkets.

01:01:00.000 Look at this.

01:01:01.000 Yeah, stuff about Blair.

01:01:01.000 We're doing stuff about Blair a little bit later.

01:01:03.000 And bought a mansion, man.

01:01:05.000 If I made two billion from a scam, says Craig Rock Sayers, and then paid a billion in compensation, how many sausages should I have with my breakfast?

01:01:13.000 The answer is booster shot.

01:01:15.000 And the MSM have made it impossible for good politicians to do much.

01:01:18.000 Got so much stuff to tell you there.

01:01:20.000 I really enjoyed that conversation with Kit We've got a fantastic show for you coming up over the course of this week.

01:01:28.000 So you've got to join us every single day.

01:01:31.000 You know the times.

01:01:31.000 Christian Smalls is going to be with us.

01:01:34.000 over there in Serbia. We've got a fantastic show for you coming up over the course of

01:01:38.000 this week. So you've got to join us every single day. You know the times. Christian

01:01:42.000 Smalls is going to be with us. He's the man behind the first ever Amazon union in the

01:01:47.000 So he is fighting against the forces that Kit Clarenberg was describing to us there.

01:01:53.000 And I'm very excited about this.

01:01:54.000 You're going to love this guest.

01:01:55.000 On Friday, Martin Goury, author of The Revolt of the Public, is joining us.

01:02:00.000 He's a former CIA agent who is outlined in a beautiful way that even I can understand how what we're experiencing now is centralized establishment powers inability to deal with the communication and information revolution that they have to create bifurcated fractured communities in order to assert control.

01:02:21.000 How both the reporting around the pandemic and the attempts to introduce mechanisms of control that Kit just spoke about during the pandemic are examples of this new dynamic that now we have the machinery Excuse me.

01:02:35.000 And the technology to resist and organize, and they can't allow that to happen.

01:02:40.000 He talks about how the revolts in Tunisia and Egypt were a demonstration of this new power, but as Adam Curtis pointed out, there is not yet an ideology to replace this, you know, I guess, progressivism in countries like ours, assuming you're in a sort of a Western-type nation.

01:02:57.000 And therefore it creates a vacuum into which groups like the Muslim Brotherhood can step in the case of Egypt. 0.83

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01:03:39.000 A bit rich for my blood, I'd say.

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01:04:05.000 They look like those big chocolate buns.

01:04:08.000 You know when they did the bigger version of chocolate buns?

01:04:12.000 They're my favourite chocolate buns, actually.

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01:04:19.000 They look like those big chocolate buttons, you know when they did the bigger version

01:04:24.000 of chocolate buttons?

01:04:25.000 They're my favourite chocolate buttons actually.

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01:04:30.000 I mean, we now know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission.

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01:04:38.000 Shearer's one of them where if you get a smile out of Shearer, you've done well.

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01:05:01.000 Oh yeah baby, I'm high octane.

01:05:03.000 Like when you think of how serious I am with Kit Clarenberg.

01:05:06.000 That's alright.

01:05:07.000 So Tony, how did they blow up that bridge?

01:05:09.000 That was good, what a fantastic... Kids, come on!

01:05:11.000 Summarise that ever so well, Kit.

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 23, 2023

Mainstream Media Covid Meltdown With Kit Klarenberg - #064 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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