Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 18, 2023


Mainstream or Misinformation - What’s The Difference? - #061 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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Jeffrey Epstein Whitney Webb Bill Gates Hillary Clinton Russell Brand Asim Malhotra Mark Middleton Robert Mueller Ghislaine Maxwell Alex Berenson Gareth Brian Stelter Henry Kissinger Melanie Walker John Campbell Les Wexner Pfizer COVID-19 Donald Trump Brandon Strzok Tony Blair and 34 more
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In this episode, Russell Brand is joined by Dr. Asim Malhotra, a cardiologist, to talk about the dangers of over-the-top conspiracy theories and the dark side of the mainstream media. Also on the show is Whitney Webb, author of One Nation: A Nation Under Blackmail, who talks about the deep state control of the media, and Jeffrey Epstein, the infamous American sex slave. And, of course, there's a bit about the Ukraine war and NATO and all that kind of stuff! Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends about this one! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and tell a friend about it! You can also join the Remember to Hit RUMBLE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and we'll read out your comments and chat about it on the next episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand. Thank you so much for all your support, it means a lot to us. - see you next Tuesday for another brand new episode. Stay free, you're not alone. - Russell Brand xoxo - P.S. - The Dark Side Of by Pravda and . by . . . is a production of The Dark Lord , & by The Deep State Control? by Deep State Media in association with Deep State Press, to promote their new book, One Nation by Whitney Webb which is out now! by One Nation, a new podcast on the Deep state controls. by the Deep State by Black Rock Media, Inc. and is available on all major podcast directories. Also check out their website here. , and listen to the podcast One Nation under Blackmail on the One Nation Podcasts here. Also, check out One Nation on the podcast on One Nation by Blackmail here. And if you're a fan of Deep State controls, click here! and also check out the podcast here: One Nation Blackmail and One Nation Whitemail on Insta: on insta-tweet us out! , Insta-lyc, and check us out on Instacademy. on Instafeed or if you'd like to become a supporter of the podcast, we'll be giving you a discount code for a discount of $5 or more?

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00:00:00.000 So, I'm going to go ahead and get started.
00:01:28.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:01:37.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
00:01:39.000 Thanks for joining me on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:01:41.000 Remember to hit rumble.
00:01:43.000 It helps me in ways that I can't begin to explain to you.
00:01:45.000 We're talking about disinformation.
00:01:47.000 Because you don't know.
00:01:47.000 Yeah, I don't know what it means.
00:01:49.000 I don't know how you benefit from that.
00:01:51.000 But do it, because I understand from people who know more than me, and God knows there's enough of them, that it's of incredible value to us.
00:01:57.000 We're talking about disinformation and WEF.
00:01:59.000 It's WEF week, as you know.
00:02:01.000 No wait, I've got something for this.
00:02:02.000 ♪ Alma Mater ♪ Yeah?
00:02:09.000 We'll be talking about the Ukraine war and NATO and all that kind of stuff.
00:02:13.000 And frankly, it's come to our attention that in spite of consistent promises that NATO aren't involved in this conflict and that there isn't an agenda to make Ukraine a member of NATO, that actually the Ukraine defence minister said We're a de facto member of NATO and what that kind of does is suggest that there is a proxy war between America and Russia.
00:02:35.000 Let me know what you think about this in the comments and chat.
00:02:37.000 And Joe Biden himself said we couldn't have a proxy war between America and Russia because that might lead us to the precipice of global Armageddon.
00:02:45.000 So I don't know about you lot.
00:02:47.000 A little bit worried?
00:02:48.000 I'd be worried.
00:02:49.000 I like living here on Earth.
00:02:50.000 I've got children, I've got pets and everything.
00:02:52.000 Lots of those.
00:02:52.000 Too many, probably.
00:02:54.000 You could actually blow a few of those up.
00:02:56.000 We could afford to lose a few cats.
00:02:59.000 If it's like, I'm afraid there's been a nuclear attack, 70% of your cats have been killed, I'd go, so I've still got... Not 25.
00:03:07.000 25 cats, that's enough, really.
00:03:09.000 We'll rebuild.
00:03:10.000 We can rebuild from this.
00:03:12.000 You can use Blackrock.
00:03:14.000 Black Rock have been involved.
00:03:16.000 We're getting a lot of investment from Black Rock so we probably have loads of cats.
00:03:21.000 We'd probably be better off in the first place than we were even before this.
00:03:24.000 More western cats.
00:03:25.000 Them cats that we had before, them was communist cats.
00:03:28.000 Cool.
00:03:30.000 We've got a cardiologist coming on the show, Dr Asim Malhotra.
00:03:35.000 You might know him from the mainstream media where he inadvertently was able to convey a little too much truth.
00:03:41.000 If you're watching this on YouTube, remember to click over to Rumble.
00:03:44.000 We cut the YouTube stream when the truth starts flowing, yo.
00:03:47.000 That's what we have to do because we say things that are simply unacceptable.
00:03:51.000 We ain't generating hate.
00:03:52.000 We ain't generating conflict.
00:03:53.000 We're conveying necessary truth to you because we believe that the relationship between the media and you, our audience, ought to be one of trust, openness, and transparency.
00:04:03.000 And I believe that parentalism, paternalism, and even downright propaganda has taken over.
00:04:09.000 Also, as well as Dr. Asim Malhotra, who's a cardiologist who talks about the potential link between certain medications and myocarditis and strokes and stuff.
00:04:22.000 As well as him, you're going to love him being on the show.
00:04:25.000 I've actually got this at the ready because when he starts talking, he don't stop.
00:04:29.000 This is my, this is how I'm going to stop him talking.
00:04:31.000 Like, if he starts being too, like, chatting too much, or even if he says stuff I don't agree with, what if he starts, like, just talking about, like, if he strays too far away from wacky conspiracy theories.
00:04:42.000 Why have you got that in the first place?
00:04:43.000 I always keep one of these for, I'm not prepared to talk to you about my private relationship.
00:04:49.000 With Captain Bobby.
00:04:50.000 He's always got that finger up whenever I see it.
00:04:52.000 Well, sometimes he doesn't.
00:04:53.000 Sometimes he has several.
00:04:55.000 And anyway, it's not... That's my private life!
00:04:57.000 So, sorry.
00:04:58.000 The humongous beeswax copper.
00:05:01.000 Also on the show is Whitney Webb, author of One Nation Under Blackmail.
00:05:04.000 She's going to be talking...
00:05:06.000 about Jeffrey Epstein and how the deep state controls it.
00:05:08.000 I mean, I've watched some of Whitney Webb's other interviews.
00:05:11.000 It's a bit frightening to see how deeply involved Jeffrey Epstein is, according to her, with some pretty entrenched, powerful interests.
00:05:20.000 I can't Actually, believe it, this bit, we will not be talking about that on YouTube, and I'm scared about talking about it at all, because it seems mad stuff happens to people that talk about this, but hey, we've got to take the risks, haven't we?
00:05:32.000 And also, we will be sharing with you, before all of that, before we get into the war in Ukraine, before we get into the medications and the adverse reactions, before we... and excess deaths, before we get into... What are you tiptoeing around?
00:05:49.000 Yeah, I'm tippity-toeing.
00:05:53.000 I'm tiptoeing.
00:05:54.000 Oh, I'll tiptoe, baby!
00:05:55.000 Before we get to Jeffrey Epstein and his pals and his wacky old hobbies on Naughty Boy Island, we're going to give you our item, The System Is Fine So Don't Collapse Into Existential Despair.
00:06:13.000 Because an Amazon driver has fallen into raw sewage. 1.00
00:06:16.000 And as you know, Amazon treat their workers incredibly well, allowing them to unionize, paying them well and offering toilet breaks whenever is necessary.
00:06:25.000 Let's have a look at this.
00:06:26.000 What a disgusting mess this Amazon driver finds himself in.
00:06:30.000 I just fell into a septic tank.
00:06:32.000 He's trapped in- Why is this being commented on by the person from the Honey Badger YouTuber?
00:06:38.000 Oh my god, what a disgusting mess.
00:06:41.000 Look at this Amazon driver.
00:06:43.000 Like Brian Stelzer as well.
00:06:45.000 Oh god, look at you falling into that poopy doopy doo! 1.00
00:06:48.000 Now you're gonna get that from out under your fingernails, buddy boy!
00:06:51.000 That's not the way a news report should start, is it?
00:06:53.000 Is it, there's an Amazon delivery driver today, did this, he starts off by going, what is this?
00:06:57.000 It's disgusting, buddy, what are you seeing? 0.97
00:06:59.000 You make me sick! 1.00
00:07:00.000 What are you doing in that tub of my guts, you I walked by it and the ground came out underneath me. 0.99
00:07:06.000 YouTube, did you see me self-centering?
00:07:08.000 That's what they do to us, Karam.
00:07:10.000 Why, why did you make of me this way, Lord?
00:07:14.000 Come on, let's get some more mainstream down our necks.
00:07:17.000 Empty raw sewage.
00:07:20.000 I walked by it and the ground came out underneath me.
00:07:23.000 I'm standing in knee deep sludge. 1.00
00:07:27.000 F***ing b****. 1.00
00:07:28.000 Those beeped words. 1.00
00:07:29.000 Things like poo-poopy-doo. 0.99
00:07:32.000 Stuff like that, huh?
00:07:33.000 I mean, this guy's working for Amazon.
00:07:33.000 There he is.
00:07:35.000 He's a grafter.
00:07:35.000 That would have been the longest break he's had all day.
00:07:37.000 He's, like, really enjoying that, actually.
00:07:39.000 Might have a little sleep.
00:07:42.000 This one's a floater.
00:07:43.000 I can use it as a pillow.
00:07:45.000 This Amazon driver was walking up to a home to deliver a package when the ground swallowed him up.
00:07:50.000 I'm like six feet down, and I tried using these roots around me to get out. 0.93
00:07:57.000 It's never gonna work, it's a ridiculous scheme.
00:07:58.000 Pull up that Honey Badger video, guys, on another stream, because we'll show you.
00:08:01.000 It's like, look at the Honey Badger!
00:08:03.000 And Brian Stoer is on the show, because Brian Stoer is at Davos right now.
00:08:08.000 Ironically enough, talking about misinformation and disinformation and all that stuff.
00:08:12.000 See if you can get the Honey Badger ready, because this newscaster is speaking in the Honey Badger voice, isn't he, Gal?
00:08:18.000 And they just pulled more dirt on top of me.
00:08:20.000 He's surprisingly calm, even though he realizes how dangerous the situation is.
00:08:24.000 I really do not want to die.
00:08:26.000 Even though he realizes, he's getting into the inner life now of the Amazon Jack.
00:08:31.000 You don't know what's going on in his mind.
00:08:32.000 He's paused briefly to reflect on his wife and his children at home before thinking, oh look at me, up to the knees, and poo-poo-pee-doo baby.
00:08:42.000 And somebody's...
00:08:45.000 Why are they sending someone out?
00:08:46.000 When the fire department got there, they quickly... 0.86
00:08:48.000 That was excrement. 0.87
00:08:50.000 That's human feces. 0.99
00:08:51.000 I don't know if there's many a word for it.
00:08:54.000 ...assessed the situation and told him not to make a move.
00:08:57.000 They put a ladder over the hole so that it kind of stabilized the ground and then they...
00:09:02.000 Why are they sending someone out?
00:09:04.000 Like they've got the person in the studio, they've got the footage from the Amazon person
00:09:08.000 and it seems like they've sent out a broadcaster to be on the scene for this.
00:09:13.000 It's very covering.
00:09:15.000 Why don't they cover, actually, the fact that most of the time Amazon workers are living in... They're not saying anything about Amazon, yeah.
00:09:21.000 Also, yeah, this is the most rest, recuperation and joy that Amazon drivers add all day, is to take advantage of the situation while he can.
00:09:28.000 ...going down to him, and he actually self-extricated.
00:09:31.000 He got himself out.
00:09:32.000 And talk about a dedicated worker.
00:09:34.000 Once he was out of the pit, he drove home, took a shower, and back to work he went.
00:09:40.000 He had about 100 packages to deliver, all in a day's work.
00:09:44.000 I just fell into a septic tank.
00:09:47.000 That Amazon driver has since been fired for taking too long of a break.
00:09:51.000 We've just heard that.
00:09:52.000 Yeah, that isn't the news, is it?
00:09:53.000 To say and talk about a dedicated worker.
00:09:55.000 The news should be.
00:09:56.000 And do you know what?
00:09:57.000 Amazon made him go back to work because of their dreadful labour practices.
00:10:01.000 To celebrate the fact that he's up against it.
00:10:01.000 Yeah.
00:10:03.000 It's a good way of getting into the rights of ordinary workers across the world, the inability of the Amazon worker class to form unions, the way that they bought in union busters, the appalling conditions, the record profits and how big tech generally benefit from situations that normally send other ordinary people spiralling into decline.
00:10:24.000 We found the honey badger clip.
00:10:25.000 Loads of you will know this is such a fantastic YouTube clip.
00:10:28.000 Have a look and listen.
00:10:29.000 I think it's the same news reporter.
00:10:30.000 Listen. Stop.
00:10:44.000 Recheck the audio.
00:10:45.000 Were we broadcasting that audio or not?
00:10:48.000 Sorry about this, guys.
00:10:49.000 We're doing that on the fly.
00:10:50.000 They didn't know that we were going to make that comparison.
00:10:52.000 Look at that.
00:10:53.000 You should put that up on the screen.
00:10:54.000 Look what we're doing.
00:10:55.000 Speakers.
00:10:56.000 You see people going into little sidebars and drop-down menus and all sorts of stuff.
00:11:00.000 The honey badger has been referred to by the Guinness Book of World Records as the most fearless animal in all the animal kingdom. 0.99
00:11:06.000 It really doesn't give a shit. 0.99
00:11:08.000 If it's hungry, it's hungry. 1.00
00:11:09.000 Ew, what's that in its mouth? 0.95
00:11:11.000 Oh, it's got a cobra?
00:11:12.000 Oh, it runs backwards?
00:11:14.000 All right, all right, you get the idea.
00:11:16.000 All right, so let's go over to Davos.
00:11:20.000 Look at this, the World Economic Forum tweeted earlier today, don't miss Tony Blair's masterclass on regional destabilisation and national destruction.
00:11:28.000 Are they taking the actual piss there?
00:11:30.000 For example, what you could do is say a country's got weapons of mass destruction, then bomb them back into the Stone Age and then move in Halliburton and take it over.
00:11:38.000 Oh yeah, no, that would work.
00:11:39.000 Those are very good ideas, Tony, but would they work in practice?
00:11:44.000 Well, we did actually do it once or twice in the late 90s.
00:11:48.000 It certainly was a masterclass when he pulled it off as well.
00:11:50.000 That's well good.
00:11:51.000 Also, I want to be thanked for it and paid and have a foundation and everyone say what a great guy I am and then grow up minosphero here.
00:11:58.000 Also at WEF, our friend from this channel, Brian Stelter, he is there doing A bloody, what's he doing, a talk on misinformation, disinformation?
00:12:07.000 The need to never ever tell untruths in public and particularly not to do it deliberately.
00:12:14.000 Here he is.
00:12:15.000 Hope you're just getting started.
00:12:16.000 Your point about, you know, uncomfortable truths being mislabeled as disinformation sticks with me.
00:12:23.000 This is a complicated term and there's so much between a clear, verifiable fact and a clear, verifiable lie.
00:12:32.000 There's so much Yes, I mean, we all remember the sort of horse-paced Ivermectin era.
00:12:40.000 We remember his outrage at Joe Rogan for having garnered an audience outside of the mainstream.
00:12:45.000 And in particular, the now proven to be disinformation, Russiagate scandal.
00:12:50.000 And if you don't remember, Brian Steller once or twice mentioned collusion between Trump and Russia.
00:12:56.000 Just once or twice though, a little bit, little bit.
00:12:57.000 Have a look.
00:12:58.000 On the Robert Mueller Russia investigation.
00:13:00.000 Mueller investigation.
00:13:01.000 Trump's Russia ties.
00:13:01.000 The Russia investigation.
00:13:02.000 And Robert Mueller.
00:13:03.000 The real Russia story.
00:13:05.000 Russia probe.
00:13:05.000 The ongoing Russia probe.
00:13:06.000 Russia probe.
00:13:07.000 The Russia investigation.
00:13:08.000 But Mueller and the Russia probe.
00:13:09.000 Russia synergies.
00:13:10.000 They wonder if Russia has compromising information on the president.
00:13:14.000 What is the source for the president's claim that they have found no collusion with Russia?
00:13:18.000 He misspelled collusion.
00:13:19.000 Every day we're trying to keep track of the drip, drip, drip of the Russia investigation.
00:13:21.000 Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, Now in the chat or the comments, if you think what they mean by misinformation and disinformation is information that may or may not be true, but it's certainly inconvenient to the agenda of the establishment and their mainstream media partners, this is from the Garden newspaper.
00:13:47.000 The Mueller report did not find Trump campaign conspired with Russia, Attorney General says.
00:13:52.000 So like all of that, all of that, the amount of time that was spent on that.
00:13:55.000 And again, with the story we're seeing now about Joe Biden's confidential docs, when compared to the reporting and coverage of the Trump docs, you know me, I don't care about either.
00:14:05.000 I think that we need systemic change at a profound level, but it just demonstrates the way that the media relays this information is in accordance with their own agenda, not simple conveying of facts.
00:14:17.000 Yeah, also, you know, coming back to the situation in Ukraine, there's a piece here, I think it's from The Intercept, as documented in a Pulitzer Prize winning series in 2008, so probably a conspiracy theorist now.
00:14:28.000 Yeah, will be by now.
00:14:29.000 Pulitzer Prize in 2008, banned from the telly in 2020.
00:14:33.000 The Pentagon orchestrated the commentary of 75 former officers who served as radio and TV analysts, turning them into message force multipliers for the administration's point of view.
00:14:42.000 Many of the retired officers who appeared on TV, i.e.
00:14:44.000 the mainstream media that Brian Stetler used to work for, worked for the companies that counted on military contracts, creating a building conflict that news organizations don't mention when introducing the analysts.
00:14:55.000 So when we're talking about misinformation especially, With regard, we've mentioned Trump, but with regard to Ukraine at the moment, they literally never mention that.
00:15:03.000 They never mention that the people they get on, mainstream media, to talk about foreign policy are being paid for or have connections to the Middle East industrial complex.
00:15:11.000 We've been aware of that for a while and we've talked about it a lot on this channel.
00:15:14.000 It seems to me to be an irresponsible way to report news, particularly with regard to such contentious and potentially globally cataclysmic matter as the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, which is consistently It's been consistently denied that it's a proxy war, that it hasn't been caused by NATO infringement on former Soviet territories, and increasingly it seems like these are major contributory factors to the current condition and that it could get a little bit out of hand.
00:15:42.000 Listen, if you're watching us on YouTube, thank you!
00:15:44.000 You are a welcome awakening wonder.
00:15:46.000 We're about to switch off the YouTube stream and broadcast only on Rumble for reasons that will become clear when I tell you the fantastic guests that we've got coming up.
00:15:54.000 We've got Dr Asim Malhotra, Who inadvertently got onto the mainstream media and started talking about connections between certain medication and adverse effects.
00:16:03.000 So you're going to want to stay with us for that conversation.
00:16:05.000 Also we're talking to Whitney Webb, who I've seen talking about Epstein and Epstein's relationship with the deep state and senior, significant, notorious, globally famous establishment figures and it's Just astonishing and unbelievable.
00:16:20.000 So it's all stuff that can't be broadcast on YouTube.
00:16:23.000 That's the reason that we do this show on Rumble, is because we're allowed to speak freely.
00:16:28.000 And I believe that freedom of speech ought be used to bring people together.
00:16:32.000 We have guests from left, right, people from the edges, people from the extremes, yes, but also people from the centre.
00:16:37.000 What we're interested in is bringing people together.
00:16:40.000 Because I believe we have more in common with one another than the centralized elites that dominate our culture and our system.
00:16:46.000 So please, switch over to Rumble right now for more of our fantastic content and these beautiful conversations.
00:16:53.000 I see Malhotra.
00:16:54.000 I've got the finger ready because that guy can chat.
00:16:57.000 He was on before and he would not be quiet, would he?
00:16:59.000 So I've got the finger ready to control him if I can.
00:16:59.000 He just kept going on.
00:17:02.000 See you later, YouTube.
00:17:03.000 Now, this story about Ukraine being a de facto member of NATO.
00:17:09.000 We're going to be taking a deeper look at that later in the week in our presentation.
00:17:12.000 Here's the news.
00:17:13.000 No, here's the effing news.
00:17:15.000 And by the way, we've got so many guests on today, we don't have time for one of those presentations.
00:17:18.000 Are we posting a link to do that?
00:17:19.000 Or are we going to just put it up tomorrow?
00:17:21.000 Tomorrow.
00:17:21.000 It's going to be up tomorrow.
00:17:22.000 But we're going to be talking about this, the Ukrainian defence minister's revelation that Ukraine operably, I think that's what this phrase they used, are NATO members in terms of the military equipment they're using, the communications that they're using.
00:17:36.000 And it could be We have a lot of modern NATO standard weaponry.
00:17:40.000 going to have a look at that clip or are we going to read this out? Are we able to see
00:17:45.000 him? This is him just saying it, just so you know this isn't propaganda, check it.
00:17:48.000 We have a lot of modern NATO standard weaponry. It means that Ukraine as country and the armed
00:17:57.000 forces of Ukraine or our sector of security and defence became the member of NATO de facto.
00:18:07.000 Okay, there you are.
00:18:09.000 That's the Ukrainian Defense Minister saying they're a de facto NATO member.
00:18:14.000 We're going to be talking about that later in the week in more depth.
00:18:17.000 We'll just mention that people are saying now that Ukraine has become a testbed for Western weapons and battlefield innovation.
00:18:25.000 So I guess what we're contesting on our show, and we'll be looking at this in more detail later this week and next week.
00:18:31.000 Sorry about that.
00:18:32.000 It is.
00:18:34.000 Essentially, the erroneous claim that this war is simply a matter of a brutal invasion by Russia, and it is brutal, and sure, it's criminal, and of course it's wrong that Ukrainian people are suffering, and their humanitarian effort is an important one, and Ukrainian people ought to be treasured, cherished, protected.
00:18:51.000 But it's becoming clear that whether it's the military industrial complex, Black Rock, or now the ability to test weapons, and not to mention a broader unipolar agenda to drain Russia of their resources in an attempt to create a sort of a singular global narrative.
00:19:08.000 There are clearly other stories at play that we're simply not being told for obvious reasons.
00:19:14.000 We'll be diving into that in depth, but now it's time for me to do what the BBC, the mainstream media outlet, should nary have done and introduce friend of the show, man who requires a finger to control him, Dr. Asim Malhotra, cardiologist, public health campaigner.
00:19:31.000 Welcome, Dr. Asim.
00:19:32.000 Thanks for joining us.
00:19:34.000 Great to see you again, Russell.
00:19:35.000 You're seeming a bit serious.
00:19:36.000 What's going on over there?
00:19:37.000 I'm the same old.
00:19:42.000 Sometimes serious, sometimes not so serious.
00:19:45.000 These days.
00:19:45.000 Very famous.
00:19:46.000 That's what we're talking about.
00:19:48.000 I've seen you on Tucker.
00:19:50.000 I've seen you on the BBC.
00:19:52.000 How did you feel about that?
00:19:53.000 And did you know ahead of time, just to catch our audience up to speed, you were booked on the BBC to talk about statins being ubiquitously and universally prescribed to people of a certain age, which is of course a heart medication, but you pivoted to excess deaths and the potential effects of COVID vaccines.
00:20:11.000 I mean, you explicitly said that COVID vaccines are causing myocarditis, strokes.
00:20:16.000 I mean, tell us, how did you feel when you did that?
00:20:18.000 What's the blowback been like?
00:20:20.000 You know, talk for about 20 minutes till the old wooden finger appears.
00:20:24.000 I've got 20 minutes.
00:20:25.000 Brilliant.
00:20:26.000 That's exactly what I need.
00:20:27.000 You know that.
00:20:28.000 No, thanks, Russell.
00:20:29.000 So, you know, for me, I've done a lot of work over the years as a public health activist.
00:20:33.000 And I know that if you get an issue major media attention, that often is much more effective than private advocacy if you want to introduce important policy changes.
00:20:43.000 And of course, The big elephant in the room that we've been discussing on the show before and many people are talking about, you know, through alternative media, is the fact that why is there not a big discussion going on through the mainstream around the links between vaccine harms and potential links with excess deaths and excess cardiovascular deaths.
00:21:02.000 So, for me, when the opportunity came to talk about statins, of something which I have expertise in, I've written a book called Statin Free Life, it was the last book I wrote, In 2021, the BBC contacted me as an expert to talk about that.
00:21:16.000 And actually, I felt it was relevant to bring in the issue of the vaccine because only a few weeks earlier, Russell, Chris Whitty, Chief Medical Officer, had suggested that the reason that we are having this so-called unexplained excess cardiovascular deaths could well be because people weren't taking their statin pills during the pandemic.
00:21:35.000 And in fact, as an expert in statins, I knew that didn't make sense because statins don't really have that much of an impact over such a short period of time.
00:21:43.000 And then Carl Hennigan, The director of the Center for Evidence-Based Medicine in Oxford, his own analysis only a few days earlier revealed that there wasn't a reduction in static prescriptions.
00:21:52.000 So it's very unlikely that to be the case.
00:21:56.000 And that was really my opportunity to bring in my view, say, well, hold on a minute.
00:22:01.000 We've got something where there's very clear data on the best available evidence of harms
00:22:05.000 pointing to the mRNA vaccines likely causing increased heart attacks and cardiac arrests,
00:22:11.000 and therefore is likely to be a contributory factor in this discussion.
00:22:17.000 Dr. Haseem, why is there such unwillingness to acknowledge the possibility, let alone the likelihood,
00:22:23.000 that these medications are contributing to excess deaths?
00:22:27.000 And further to that, have you found that your credibility garnered over years of study, practice and research has been attacked as a result of your unwillingness to toe what appears to be a mainstream line on this subject?
00:22:41.000 Well, if you'll allow me to answer your second question first, Russell.
00:22:46.000 You know, over the years I've advocated and come out with statements in mainstream media based upon things I've published, mainly in medical journals.
00:22:55.000 Whether it's been sugar and it's linked to heart disease, whether it's been busting the myth of saturated fat, i.e.
00:23:00.000 you can eat butter again, whether statins are over-prescribed, whether low-carb diets are the best way forward to improve our metabolic health.
00:23:08.000 And every time I've done that, I've been attacked.
00:23:10.000 And that's something I expected.
00:23:12.000 I see it as a sign of progress.
00:23:13.000 And the reason I say that, one of the lessons from public health advocacy is as soon as your work threatens an industry or an ideological cabal, you will be attacked, sometimes unrelentingly and viciously.
00:23:27.000 So you have to grow a rhinoceros hide, Russell.
00:23:29.000 You've got to have a thick skin.
00:23:31.000 For me, when this happened, the blowback was expected, and it's a sign of progress.
00:23:36.000 I mean, without going off too much on a tangent, one of my inspirations as a big advocate for highlighting injustice is Mahatma Gandhi.
00:23:44.000 He said, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you.
00:23:49.000 Then you win.
00:23:50.000 So I see that now we're in the fight stage. 0.98
00:23:52.000 I mean, they shoot you. 0.99
00:23:56.000 Then they shoot you. 0.83
00:23:57.000 Like, yeah, no, I hear you, man.
00:23:59.000 Hopefully that won't happen, but you know, so be it.
00:24:02.000 If it happens, it happens.
00:24:03.000 Yeah, please, God.
00:24:04.000 Please, God.
00:24:05.000 Yeah, it's interesting.
00:24:06.000 You've said elephant in the room.
00:24:07.000 You've said rhinoceros hide.
00:24:08.000 A lot of big mammals are getting mentioned in this conversation.
00:24:12.000 I myself, I'm actually an incredibly sensitive person, but still operate in these kind of
00:24:19.000 conversations and I feel that what's important is whether you're talking about something
00:24:22.000 like statins, where it seems like the BBC at least had an appetite to have a conversation,
00:24:27.000 or these medications, opposing views ought be framed and presented as part of the public
00:24:33.000 debate and also as a part of the clinical processes.
00:24:36.000 We were reading Dr. Marty Makary's work yesterday and they were saying that since the NIH denied
00:24:45.000 funding to things like vitamin D and its impact on COVID and vaccine particles being in breast
00:24:53.000 milk and the positive impact on steroids and COVID, all of which have been proven, and
00:24:59.000 also natural immunity, thank you Gareth, all of which have been proven to be effective,
00:25:02.000 I would say.
00:25:04.000 After it seemed cynically, one might imagine that these kind of studies only took place when enough profit had been extracted from the situation.
00:25:13.000 And it seems that from your experience in other areas that these are financially motivated arguments.
00:25:18.000 Absolutely, Russell.
00:25:19.000 In fact, you can explain all of this quite rationally.
00:25:21.000 So you've got to think about what's the root cause of the problem.
00:25:24.000 To answer your first question, why is it not being discussed in mainstream media?
00:25:27.000 So there's a framework of actually how big corporations exert their power.
00:25:32.000 Primarily driven for the purposes of profit.
00:25:34.000 And they do it for a number of mechanisms.
00:25:36.000 So they define the dominant narrative.
00:25:39.000 They lobby and capture and influence politicians.
00:25:44.000 They engage in influencing preference shaping.
00:25:48.000 So capture the media.
00:25:49.000 capture of the knowledge environment, funding of medical research, medical education,
00:25:53.000 in the case of drugs, for example, the legal environment and the extra legal environment.
00:25:57.000 And the extra legal environment often means opposition fragmentation.
00:26:00.000 So what they do is they will attack or smear or use people to undermine the credibility of those
00:26:07.000 that basically call out their manipulations and excesses.
00:26:11.000 And what they wanna do is they wanna keep the conflict latent, Russell.
00:26:15.000 So conflict between the interests of the powerful and those over whom power is exerted.
00:26:20.000 So one of the reasons why mainstream media has been captured through them as well
00:26:24.000 is that they know that if this issue gets public media attention,
00:26:27.000 then of course the conflict becomes a public health issue Disseminated through, you know, through to millions of people.
00:26:35.000 And then the truth ultimately will come out.
00:26:37.000 And, you know, for me, sunlight is a very potent disinfectant for malodorous health policy.
00:26:42.000 So I knew from a very long time that if we were going to make progress on this whole issue about the vaccine harms, which I've known about for quite some time, it had to get mainstream media attention.
00:26:51.000 And I'll tell you something else interesting, which I've not shared anywhere so far, Russell.
00:26:54.000 When I published my papers in the Journal of Incidence and Historically, as an activist, when I write something, I write for the purpose of sharing knowledge that I feel everyone needs to know about.
00:27:05.000 When I published this, I planned to try and get this in the mainstream media.
00:27:08.000 I won't name this particular newspaper in this instance, but one journalist I've worked with for a very long time, I gave him the exclusive.
00:27:14.000 He had the paper, certainly the raw paper, before it was finally accepted for publication, a couple of months in advance.
00:27:20.000 He was all ready to go, and he pulled out last minute.
00:27:23.000 Despite that, three journalists contacted me, mainstream media journalists, and did interviews on my paper.
00:27:29.000 One of them was a BBC broadcast journalist who he felt he had been vaccine injured.
00:27:35.000 I won't name him to protect his confidentiality.
00:27:37.000 He did a 20-minute pre-recorded interview with me And it never aired on his radio station.
00:27:42.000 The Times newspaper did a long interview with me, never got published.
00:27:46.000 The Daily Mail, again, and it was a very, you know, it was a very pleasant conversation based upon my findings, never got published.
00:27:54.000 So I think the journal, a lot of people, we can't really blame journalists here.
00:27:58.000 Something's happening at a higher level.
00:28:00.000 And I think certainly with the BBC, I think we have to ask the Director General of the BBC what's going on.
00:28:05.000 Why is he not allowing the vaccine discussion to take place on their platforms?
00:28:10.000 It's certainly interesting that a publicly funded organisation which requires taxpayers' money to stay in the game isn't willing to be impartial and balanced in such an important issue.
00:28:23.000 We all know that there are what are commonly regarded as conspiracy theories that accrue
00:28:29.000 around this issue, but the demonstrable truth is cause enough for concern.
00:28:34.000 The information has been maligned, dissenters have been smeared, the conversation has been
00:28:40.000 controlled, meanwhile huge profits have been garnered.
00:28:43.000 That to me seems a significant enough set of facts to constitute an argument.
00:28:49.000 Our audience have sent some questions for you, Doc.
00:28:53.000 Firstly, P.A.
00:28:54.000 Hussey says, tell Dr. Asim Malhotra thank you for standing up against the globalists, world governments, mainstream media and corporations.
00:29:00.000 He's an outstanding man and his father would be proud of him.
00:29:02.000 Respect to God rest his soul.
00:29:04.000 I see your father behind you there.
00:29:05.000 Starshine Free says, ask him if he's seen any former pro-vaccine colleagues admitting they were wrong.
00:29:12.000 Has that happened?
00:29:13.000 Well, there are a number of people certainly that have come out of the woodwork and been made public statements.
00:29:20.000 John Campbell, Dr. John Campbell, nurse practitioner and academic.
00:29:23.000 He was very pro-vaccine.
00:29:25.000 He went on his YouTube channel and talked about it.
00:29:26.000 He took two jabs.
00:29:28.000 And then he came out on a video that I then shared on Twitter as well for his rumble.
00:29:33.000 Basically saying the evidence is quite clear, now we need to suspend the vaccine.
00:29:36.000 There have been other people, other cardiologists have come out.
00:29:38.000 A chap called Dean Patterson is a consultant cardiologist in Jersey.
00:29:41.000 He's come out and called for a suspension of the vaccine.
00:29:44.000 So I think that more and more people are coming out, and certainly conversations I've had with many doctors, certainly, and I won't name them, and some of these are kind of the very senior NHS leadership roles, they've read my paper, they think it has legitimacy, and they've said to me, I'm going to tell you something.
00:30:00.000 I'm not having any further boosters, and I'm going to make sure no other members of my family are doing it.
00:30:04.000 The only problem is they're afraid to speak out.
00:30:07.000 And I think that they fear that they're going to be, you know, labeled anti-vaxxer.
00:30:11.000 They're going to have their license threatened.
00:30:14.000 I think a lot of people are in fear.
00:30:16.000 Many people, though, Russell, even I was in America recently, spoke to many doctors there.
00:30:21.000 They, you know, in California, if you go against the dominant narrative now coming from the medical establishment, You automatically could get your license revoked but what I said was if the situation has got to that level as doctors if we can't speak up for our patients when we think harm is being committed
00:30:37.000 The word doctor, the meaning of doctor disappears.
00:30:40.000 And for me, as a way I was brought up and the way I behave, and my duty and responsibility is always to patients, my conscience wouldn't allow me to stay quiet.
00:30:51.000 So, you know, I'm just trying to get the information out there in the best way possible.
00:30:55.000 We have to have dialogue.
00:30:56.000 It has to be compassionate.
00:30:57.000 We have to understand that there are people getting angry with me.
00:30:59.000 I'm getting trolled on Twitter.
00:31:00.000 Suspend his medical license.
00:31:02.000 Hatchet jobs in the Guardian and the Times over the weekend.
00:31:05.000 But I don't have any animosity to these people.
00:31:09.000 I feel sorry for them.
00:31:10.000 I have compassion for them.
00:31:12.000 I think it's rooted in ignorance and the illusion of knowledge.
00:31:15.000 So I think if they go low, we go high.
00:31:18.000 The facts speak for themselves.
00:31:20.000 The information is getting more and more disseminated to the public.
00:31:23.000 And I think we're reaching a tipping point, Russell, soon.
00:31:25.000 And these vaccines will be suspended pending an investigation to investigate the true rate of adverse effects, especially to the cardiovascular system.
00:31:34.000 The corporatizing and co-opting of the medical profession by the pharmaceutical industry is terrifying, and the idea that such an important social role as the doctor, as you've outlined, could become yet another node in the net of globalist corporate power is cause for great concern.
00:31:52.000 I hope that one day, Aseem, we will see the reckoning that is required here, that the truth will come out
00:32:00.000 and the truth will perhaps be nuanced, perhaps something akin to these vaccines
00:32:05.000 ought to have been recommended to people that are vulnerable, it ought never have been shared
00:32:11.000 that it was somehow a social responsibility for all of us to take it because otherwise
00:32:15.000 there was a risk that we would infect other people.
00:32:18.000 It seems that there needs to be a massive amendment and an apology and sort of the creation of the class and the term anti-vaxxer seemed to me to be kind of a PR spin to create a class and caste of people that could be condemned to sort of other and damn so that the light never shone on those that were really culpable.
00:32:39.000 I've just got a little question as well, actually moving away from vaccines slightly and talking about lockdowns, because the things that you've talked about and Russell has in terms of the relationships between pharmaceutical companies and the government and the ways in which A lot of this messaging won't be able to be released.
00:33:00.000 But when it comes to lockdowns, it also seems like there's an inability for anyone to talk about not even the vaccines, but the harms that the lockdowns have done.
00:33:08.000 You know, we're in a situation at the moment where we're seeing the largest excess deaths outside the pandemic in 50 years.
00:33:13.000 You even when you were on the BBC were talking about healthy lifestyles.
00:33:17.000 That's something that during lockdowns we weren't able to have.
00:33:21.000 We were told not to exercise.
00:33:23.000 We were encouraged to eat bad food.
00:33:25.000 We're now seeing skyrocketing cancer rates and all sorts of dreadful consequences from lockdowns.
00:33:30.000 And yet this doesn't really have anything to do with Big Pharma but what it does have to do with is governments not even getting to the point where they'll admit we made a mistake in these lockdowns and I wondered what you thought and if that's a way of them clinging on to the idea of lockdowns for the future.
00:33:45.000 Yeah, no, it's a great, great point.
00:33:47.000 So I think, looking at the evidence now, you know, lockdowns ultimately seem to have caused a net harm, for sure.
00:33:54.000 Interestingly, just before I became privy to looking at data properly, or certainly data being published that suggested a link between the vaccine and heart problems, I was interviewed by the Times, who asked me, there's been an increase in heart attacks, Dr. March, and what do you think's going on?
00:34:08.000 And I said, actually, I predicted to some degree there would be an increase because, you know, and the headline of The Times from my interview was poor diets and stress, you know, chronic psychological stress, certainly from lockdowns, as a risk factor for heart disease is massive.
00:34:21.000 So I think all of those factors played in.
00:34:23.000 That's one of the reasons the lockdowns ultimately resulted in a net harm, because it didn't really ultimately, you know, stop the spread of COVID.
00:34:31.000 And we didn't protect the vulnerable and we caused unnecessary harm to people who are much, much healthier.
00:34:36.000 So it was a disaster.
00:34:37.000 It was a complete public health disaster.
00:34:39.000 I think one of the reasons, you know, I spoke about the link between COVID and obesity very early on.
00:34:44.000 I started talking about it in March, you know, April 2020.
00:34:47.000 I was on Sky News and writing articles about it saying we need a public health message right now because we know that the immune system is better if people's diets are healthier, people are taking vitamin D, etc.
00:34:57.000 Why was that not repeated throughout the pandemic?
00:35:00.000 And I think we probably would have had we probably would have less deaths if if people were told to change their diets because actually dietary change has a big impact within a few weeks.
00:35:08.000 So that's something I think that missed opportunity.
00:35:12.000 But very quickly on that point you know I think one of the reasons why there wasn't a dedicated effort to say to the public It's time to quit ultra-processed foods.
00:35:22.000 This is what ultra-processed foods are.
00:35:24.000 You need to quit junk food for now.
00:35:26.000 Your best protection, you know, right now from COVID is because that hits another industry very hard that have been manipulating the masses and engineering products to get them addicted.
00:35:35.000 Big food.
00:35:37.000 Doctor Asim Malhotra, you are a mighty David, standing against the Titans and Goliaths everywhere, merely with the sling of truth and a very nice complexion.
00:35:49.000 We got through the entire conversation.
00:35:50.000 There was no requirement for the wooden finger because of your moderated and brilliant abilities to convey and articulate these points so beautifully.
00:35:59.000 Thank you, Doctor.
00:36:00.000 We'll speak to you again soon, I'm sure.
00:36:02.000 Thank you.
00:36:03.000 Thank you, mate.
00:36:04.000 Let us know if we can be of any use to you.
00:36:05.000 Take care, mate.
00:36:07.000 Well done, Gareth.
00:36:08.000 I think your conversation points went over quite well with Dr Receive, didn't they?
00:36:12.000 It did, one.
00:36:14.000 I know, but that's the only one he sort of said it was a good point.
00:36:16.000 Get angry about that.
00:36:18.000 When we cut that for YouTube, make it like, let's just record me.
00:36:23.000 I've got a question, Dr. Raseem.
00:36:25.000 How about also the lockdown?
00:36:26.000 They didn't go so well.
00:36:28.000 Just use that.
00:36:29.000 And this is from, look at this, this is from the New York Post.
00:36:32.000 The CDC investigating whether Pfizer COVID vaccine increases stroke risk for people over 65.
00:36:37.000 Also elsewhere, they've looked at whether or not young people are being damaged.
00:36:40.000 So I guess this is a story that's going to continue to run and run.
00:36:43.000 Do you reckon, Gal?
00:36:44.000 Feels like it is going to.
00:36:45.000 But it was quietly released on, I think, a Friday evening by the CDC.
00:36:48.000 Let it out then.
00:36:49.000 Let it out like a little pipsqueak fart.
00:36:51.000 Yeah, before the weekend.
00:36:53.000 Moving radically away from how the mainstream media in the establishment repress important information, our guest Whitney Webb.
00:37:03.000 Author of One Nation Under Blackmail and writer for Unlimited Hangout is here to talk to us about deep state collusion, the hobbies of the powerful, and in particular, Jeffrey Epstein.
00:37:17.000 Hello there, Whitney. 0.54
00:37:18.000 I've been watching your content.
00:37:19.000 You always seem to be in the, what is that environment you're in?
00:37:23.000 Where are you?
00:37:24.000 Are you in grandma's handbag?
00:37:27.000 No, I actually live in Chile in South America.
00:37:31.000 Oh, you were in Chile!
00:37:33.000 Yeah, uh-huh.
00:37:34.000 I just have like a wall hanging because it's, you know, a It's a perfect environment.
00:37:47.000 Whitney, I've been watching some of your interviews and I've got to say, like, it's one of those, the area of your research and expertise is one of those areas that's actually almost scary to talk about because we on this show are continually talking about hypocrisy, corruption, the deep state, Democracy being a kind of hollow and theatrical affair where real power is beyond the reach of ordinary people.
00:38:10.000 We sort of infer sometimes that people may get assassinated because their interests and the stories that they tell are at odds with the agenda of powerful people.
00:38:23.000 How much proof you appear to have and your willingness to talk about it is somewhat staggering.
00:38:28.000 So I guess there's to start with Jeffrey Epstein and his ties to incredibly powerful global figures, former President Bill Clinton and one of the world's most powerful tycoons, Bill Gates.
00:38:40.000 Can you just sort of unpack for us the nature of these relationships, which sort of like, while people are peripherally aware of it, it seems to be something that's somehow been submerged and lost.
00:38:52.000 Sure, so if you look at the mainstream narrative about Epstein, no one in mainstream media wants to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and what he was doing before the year 2000.
00:39:00.000 So if you look at the timeline with Epstein and Bill Clinton, for example, what you see is that from 1987 till roughly 1993, Jeffrey Epstein was one of the masterminds of one of the biggest Ponzi schemes in U.S.
00:39:12.000 history.
00:39:13.000 And, you know, financial criminality is consistent throughout his career.
00:39:18.000 When that was being prosecuted, Jeffrey Epstein's name was dropped from the case in 1993.
00:39:22.000 And that same year, he appears at Clinton fundraisers, some of the most controversial fundraisers of the entire Clinton administration.
00:39:30.000 For example, in 1993, it was a fundraiser associated with the White House Historical Association being nominally run by the office of Hillary Clinton.
00:39:38.000 It makes an appearance in Vince Foster's alleged suicide note.
00:39:41.000 And who was the White House counsel that died under very suspicious circumstances.
00:39:45.000 And then Epstein was involved in roughly after that, 15 visits to the White House in less than a two year span
00:39:52.000 with a man named Mark Middleton, who, well, most of them were with Mark Middleton,
00:39:58.000 who was a central figure in the 1996 campaign finance scandal
00:40:02.000 also known as Chinagate in some circles.
00:40:04.000 And essentially there you have Epstein being involved in a massive way with those financial tricks,
00:40:11.000 I guess you could say for lack of a better word.
00:40:13.000 And at the same time, he's involved in relocating Southern Air Transport, the CIA linked airline
00:40:19.000 involved in Iran-Contra from its headquarters in Miami, Florida to Ohio to ostensibly run cargo
00:40:27.000 for Leslie Wexner's Enterprises, where they'll be going from Columbus to Hong Kong,
00:40:31.000 which interestingly enough was a major hub for a lot of this corruption in 1996
00:40:36.000 involving Mark Middleton, who Epstein's meeting with at the same time.
00:40:40.000 Subsequently after this, which is the only time where mainstream media starts to talk about the Clinton-Epstein relationship, Clinton is out of office and setting up the Clinton Foundation, and a lot of the setup for the Clinton Foundation he is doing while flying on Jeffrey Epstein's plane, specifically the Africa trip, but also the Asia trip, and things that come out of this are things like the Clinton Health Access Initiative, which later partners with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in very significant ways.
00:41:06.000 So, essentially what you have there is, considering that the Clinton Foundation's sort of been treated as a political slush fund of the Clinton family, you have Jeffrey Epstein over a period of decades being involved in essentially guiding the most suspect financial activity of the Clinton family from the early 90s onward, and including their rebranding of their, you know, political cronyism as philanthropy.
00:41:32.000 And I'll pause before getting into Bill Gates, because that's a totally different story.
00:41:37.000 I mean, yeah, this is before we've got to Bill Gates.
00:41:40.000 I mean, I didn't know that Epstein's skullduggery went all the way back to Iran-Contra.
00:41:46.000 It seems like wherever there's corruption, Jeffrey Epstein was there, like a kind of Forrest Gump of global corruption.
00:41:54.000 So is it then that even before you get To the salacious, sexual, underage, sex trafficking, abuse side of the Jeffrey Epstein story.
00:42:06.000 There's mammoth financial corruption and the involvement of significant political and corporate figures.
00:42:12.000 Yeah, the financial criminality aspect of Epstein's career spans essentially from the late 70s all the way up until his second arrest in 2019.
00:42:21.000 Whereas the sex crimes, as far as we know, span sometime between 1991 and up until his first arrest around 2006, 2007 or so, at least the bulk of those sex crimes that we know about.
00:42:34.000 And what is the nature of the connection with Bill Gates?
00:42:37.000 Now that you've done the first Bill, let's move on to the second.
00:42:42.000 Right, so if you believe mainstream media, Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein didn't meet until 2011, but that is unfortunately for Bill Gates, contradicted by evidence that's actually in mainstream media.
00:42:52.000 So for example, the Evening Standard, a pretty mainstream outlet in the United Kingdom, has an article from, I believe, January 2001, where it's talking about Ghislaine Maxwell and her relationship with Prince Andrew, and discusses Jeffrey Epstein introducing him to a UK Audience there introduces him as a property developer and says that he made most of his millions through his business links to three individuals, Leslie Wexner, Donald Trump, and the third one is Bill Gates.
00:43:19.000 So why would the Evening Standard name Bill Gates as one of the main business partners of Jeffrey Epstein during the 1990s if they didn't meet until roughly a decade later?
00:43:27.000 No one in mainstream media has been interested in following that up.
00:43:31.000 With me, even though I've been contacted by outlets such as the BBC for that information, and then, you know, never goes anywhere.
00:43:37.000 And even beyond that, if you're looking at some other aspects of the Epstein-Gates relationship, you have a woman named Melanie Walker come along, who was allegedly recruited by Jeffrey Epstein to be a Victoria's Secret model in 1992.
00:43:49.000 There's no evidence she ever modeled, but she became Epstein's science advisor.
00:43:53.000 In the late 90s and shortly thereafter became science advisor to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
00:43:59.000 If you're Bill Gates and you're hiring a science advisor for your relatively new foundation and you're looking at her CV and all it really has is a science advisor to Jeffrey Epstein, you would have to know who Jeffrey Epstein is and what kind of science he was into.
00:44:15.000 And this again is well before the 2011 date we're alleged to You know, believe is when they first met.
00:44:22.000 And I would argue that this isn't so much to protect Bill Gates.
00:44:24.000 It's about protecting Microsoft.
00:44:26.000 Because Epstein in the 1990s, as well as the Maxwell family, extensively involved in the activities of Microsoft to a very significant, it's just very extreme.
00:44:35.000 And Ghislaine Maxwell herself was involved in some of those business connections, as well at a time when she was involved with Epstein.
00:44:41.000 Epstein was also involved in a very suspicious trip, really a A delegation Microsoft sent to Russia in 1998 where he's touring local high schools in Russia with Microsoft executives.
00:44:55.000 Some of those executives, like Nathan Myrvold, later are allegedly tied to his sex trafficking operations and named by prominent Epstein victims as their abusers.
00:45:05.000 And you also have Microsoft executives like Linda Stone also being in the mix there as well. 0.51
00:45:10.000 So there's several executives.
00:45:11.000 And Melanie Walker, who I just mentioned, ended up dating a top Microsoft executive in the early 2000s as well.
00:45:17.000 Sorry.
00:45:18.000 The sexual aspect of these crimes is of course independently heinous enough and exploitative in a manner that's almost difficult to conceive of in terms of its scale and scope and geographical reach and the number of people involved.
00:45:18.000 Not at all Whitney.
00:45:36.000 But it appears that this is also merely one component, and in fact, an aspect of this is the use of this criminal sexual activity in order to create ties that are connected to power.
00:45:51.000 Am I correct?
00:45:52.000 And where is it, Whitney, that all of this is going?
00:45:54.000 Because it seems to me that you're handling a great deal of information and a great deal of energy, and that you have a sense yourself that you're very close to how global power really Well, you know, that was my whole effort of the book.
00:46:09.000 You know, I wrote a thousand pages.
00:46:10.000 It's two volumes.
00:46:11.000 The second volume focuses on Epstein, and the first volume focuses on how this happened and how this network that enabled Epstein essentially came into existence.
00:46:20.000 And, you know, what I'm trying to do there is really just interrogate the power structures that are essentially running most of the Western world, and of course the Western world Particularly U.S.
00:46:29.000 Empire has client states around the world.
00:46:31.000 You know, in other words, this would be the power structure of most of the world today.
00:46:36.000 And essentially what you have are major elements of organized crime and intelligence agencies, mainly in the U.S., U.K.
00:46:42.000 and Israel, that essentially fused during, you know, the World War II and the immediate post-World War era.
00:46:50.000 And a lot of really crazy things have gone on.
00:46:52.000 And essentially, what I found is that history is littered with figures just like Jeffrey Epstein.
00:46:56.000 He was not an anomaly at all, like we've been told by mainstream media.
00:46:59.000 And thus, it's probably likely that people swimming in these elite circles for several decades, you know, found this type of activity in which Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were engaged to be perfectly normal.
00:47:10.000 And actually there's reports in 2003 and I think the Evening Standard and other UK outlets that openly talk about Delaine Maxwell training young blonde girls and sex techniques and brandishing whips at parties.
00:47:21.000 People knew about this well before Epstein was arrested the first time and nothing was done.
00:47:25.000 And you even have the wife of the deceased Senator John McCain in the United States, Cindy McCain, saying in early January 2020, we all knew what he was doing, talking about Epstein.
00:47:37.000 So this was known and nothing was done.
00:47:40.000 It's extraordinary.
00:47:41.000 So it seems like it would be impossible to have a significant connection to Jeffrey Epstein and not know what he was doing.
00:47:48.000 Overtly and explicitly, Jeffrey Epstein then is a realtor, a fixer, a global playboy.
00:47:56.000 But the nature of his connections means what?
00:47:59.000 That he's integrally involved in the true structures of power that are usually concealed.
00:48:07.000 Yeah, to an extent.
00:48:10.000 I think he was really sort of a middle management figure who was sort of linking top tiers of this power structure and with people on the ground actually enacting a lot of these operations, policies and corrupt acts, and of course him himself being intimately involved.
00:48:27.000 Uh, several acts of corruption, uh, as well.
00:48:30.000 And ultimately, I think, uh, the reason the financial crimes are not discussed is because, uh, that's getting to the bottom of a lot of things that are still ongoing to this very day.
00:48:41.000 Um, and, uh, there's a lot of powerful interests that definitely don't want that coming out.
00:48:45.000 And if you look at, for example, when efforts have been made to investigate the tie of Epstein and Wall Street banks, most recently with this situation in the Virgin Islands, The Attorney General was fired after trying to file suit against Deutsche Bank, I believe, for their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:49:03.000 And the previous attempt to prosecute that in a U.S.
00:49:06.000 court saw the judge's son assassinated, essentially.
00:49:11.000 By someone that had previously worked for an intelligence linked outfit called Kroll Associates.
00:49:16.000 So there's a whole lot of crazy stuff there and so why was the, you know, I think it's pretty clear why the mainstream media won't touch this one if that's how it happened, you know, that's how it's played out on the legal side.
00:49:26.000 have a sense that there are elite and inaccessible organizations that primarily are connected
00:49:34.000 around the administration of power, the acquisition of profit, the manipulation of the media agenda,
00:49:43.000 the top American political figures, significant corporate figures across the globe, some of
00:49:48.000 the world's most powerful billionaires have connections and relationships that are illicit.
00:49:54.000 And of course the nature of this story suggests that there is a sexual component that's a
00:49:58.000 significant part of it.
00:50:00.000 One of the other aspects of this is that I keep hearing people connected to this story
00:50:06.000 die in mysterious circumstances.
00:50:08.000 And then, of course, Jeffrey Epstein's death in custody doesn't seem to be entirely straightforward.
00:50:15.000 What's your impression there, Whitney?
00:50:18.000 Uh, of Epstein's death, I definitely think the official story is, uh, totally insane and very difficult to believe.
00:50:24.000 Uh, and essentially, it's very hard to know what happened that day, because the guards were asleep, the cameras didn't work, and all these different things, you know, went wrong, and it's just a very difficult story to believe, especially if you believe the official, uh, story of how he allegedly hung himself after being on suicide watch with paper-thin sheets, and he's a tall guy.
00:50:43.000 I mean, a lot of it doesn't really add up.
00:50:46.000 And ultimately, if you look at other people in the Epstein case, for example, Mark Middleton,
00:50:51.000 who I mentioned earlier, who was frequently meeting with Epstein at the White House around 94 and 1995,
00:50:58.000 early, or in May of last year, he was found hanging by the neck by an extension cord
00:51:03.000 and a shotgun blast to the chest.
00:51:05.000 A couple months after the Daily Mail published the visitor logs between him and Epstein
00:51:10.000 and revealed that what was thought to be five visits really closer to 17.
00:51:15.000 And the local Arkansas court blocked all media and all files related to Middleton's death from being released and it was ruled a suicide.
00:51:22.000 So you tell me how likely it is that someone hung themselves at the same time they shot themselves in the chest with a shotgun, you know, and how likely that was actually a suicide as authorities maintain.
00:51:34.000 Occasionally these stories occur that reveal the true nature of power and it makes me a bit scared to tell you the truth, Whitney.
00:51:40.000 Do you sometimes feel like, hold on a minute, if I keep talking about this stuff on the internet and write books about it, it's pretty clear that I'm in some risks.
00:51:49.000 Do you ever feel that, mate?
00:51:51.000 So there's the network I trace in the book has been reported by previous journalists who had things happen to them like Gary Webb and Danny Casolaro.
00:51:59.000 But I think today, the media, you know, the powers that be are more likely to paint me as just a conspiracy theorist and ignore me than, you know, go to all the effort of coming all the way to South America and executing some sort of hit or something like that. And ultimately I feel that if
00:52:15.000 you live in fear of these people you're giving them power over you and
00:52:18.000 power over your life and if your goal is to free yourself and your family and
00:52:23.000 ultimately the world from this type of corrupt power establishment we
00:52:27.000 should not be giving them power over us. So that's how I feel personally about
00:52:32.000 it.
00:52:32.000 Encouraging.
00:52:33.000 Also, they'd have to get into the grandma handbag, sneak in there, hang you, shoot you. 1.00
00:52:38.000 It's a complicated murder to carry out. 0.99
00:52:40.000 We've been talking about the WF and Davos this week, Wendy.
00:52:45.000 This similarly seems like, this similar, Whitney, excuse me, This similarly seems like an organization where powerful people come together.
00:52:56.000 Now at least in this instance it is overt.
00:52:59.000 Opinions seem to range from thinking that it's a pretty banal event and it's just a sort of a trade fair and a conference to people thinking that it is a demonstration that there is collusion that takes place between heads of state and powerful corporate figures.
00:53:13.000 Where do you stand and does the Jeffrey Epstein story and the Davos WF story ever intersect?
00:53:21.000 Yeah, there are intersections with the World Economic Forum and the Epstein story.
00:53:24.000 I can talk about that a little bit later.
00:53:26.000 but in general, the World Economic Forum, they describe themselves as the premier organization
00:53:30.000 promoting public private partnerships, which is essentially furthering the vision of Mussolini
00:53:35.000 when he defined fascism as corporatism, the merging of the public and private sectors.
00:53:40.000 And if you look, if you actually analyze a lot of the public private partnerships
00:53:44.000 that the WEF produces, they're very alarming.
00:53:46.000 And I don't think enough people actually spend the time to analyze those partnerships.
00:53:51.000 So one that I've done a lot of reporting on in the past is called the Partnership Against Cybercrime
00:53:55.000 at the World Economic Forum.
00:53:57.000 It's led by the current head of strategy for the WEF, who is a top Israeli military intelligence figure, who was responsible for basically turning Black Cube, for example, into a Mossad cutout and advising Netanyahu.
00:54:13.000 On a whole lot of really damaging policies.
00:54:16.000 And essentially what that partnership against cybercrime involves are Wall Street banks, tech companies with ties to intelligence, and the U.S.
00:54:26.000 Department of Justice, the FBI, the U.K.
00:54:29.000 Crime Agency, I believe, and then the Israelis, one of their cyberintelligence directorates. 0.96
00:54:34.000 And what they argue for is the end of online anonymity completely, linking all your Internet activity to a government-issued ID.
00:54:42.000 Allegedly to fight against cybercrime and also the emerging of Wall Street banks, their regulators and intelligence agencies, allegedly as a means of hedging against what they believe is an imminent cyber attack that will collapse the existing financial system and then require that people essentially have a government issued ID to access the Internet.
00:55:03.000 And a lot of these policies are being developed by these public-private partnerships under the I guess umbrella of the WEF and then they're handed to governments and a lot of these governments end up enacting that.
00:55:15.000 And if you look at things, of course, like the Young Global Leaders Program, how certain governments around the world have a very high number of WEF affiliated individuals in their government, they receive a policy from the WEF, they're likely to enact it.
00:55:27.000 So, you know, well, ultimately, what is that?
00:55:29.000 What does that mean?
00:55:30.000 And I mean, merging Wall Street banks, merging with their regulators is totally insane.
00:55:35.000 But then combining that with like the CIA, which anyway, has its origins going back to corrupt Wall Street lawyers and the U.S.
00:55:42.000 oligarchy in general.
00:55:43.000 I mean, that is just a recipe for total disaster.
00:55:46.000 And how does that actually prevent cybercrime when Wall Street banks regularly engage in actual criminal activity that's never prosecuted?
00:55:53.000 You know, it's absolutely insane.
00:55:54.000 And this is the type of policies the WEF sign off on.
00:55:57.000 And so a lot of people do rightly point out that they're unaccountable and all of this stuff.
00:56:02.000 But you know, sometimes it's low on facts and very much large on hype, some of those narratives.
00:56:09.000 And I think people need to look a lot deeper into what's actually going on and what's actually being developed in terms of policy and how those policies are making their way to governments.
00:56:18.000 And also, I think the relationship between the WEF and the UN needs to be interrogated.
00:56:23.000 because it was actually Kofi Annan when he was director general of the UN
00:56:26.000 speaking at the WEF in the late 90s, he said, thanks to the WEF, the UN has undergone,
00:56:31.000 I think he called it a silent or quiet revolution where now the businesses of the UN
00:56:37.000 are the businesses of the world, showing a pivot of the UN to champion the interests
00:56:43.000 of banks and the private sector.
00:56:45.000 That's a very significant influence exerted there by the WEF over a series of decades.
00:56:50.000 And if you look at the history of Klaus Schwab, you know, his family history,
00:56:54.000 his relationship to Henry Kissinger, how he was recruited by Henry Kissinger
00:56:58.000 via a CIA funded program at Harvard and all of this stuff, it's very alarming.
00:57:03.000 And then, you know, if you look at, you know, intelligence connections,
00:57:06.000 as I mentioned a few, the WEF head of strategies and intelligence agent
00:57:10.000 At this year's Davos, they've invited several prominent intelligence figures in the U.S.
00:57:15.000 and from other countries around the world to meet in secret with top leaders.
00:57:19.000 You know, people may consider me a conspiracy theorist for thinking that's bad, but I personally think that this is something that needs to be interrogated because these people have historical track records where they've engaged in corruption and criminality.
00:57:32.000 There are some terrifying connections and schemes being proposed there, in particular the idea that Wall Street and the CIA might merge and then self-regulate in order to... We'll take the honesty of Wall Street and the kindness of the CIA and to make sure nothing goes wrong it can regulate itself.
00:57:54.000 We'll take this bat coronavirus What ideas are these people going to come up with next? 1.00
00:58:02.000 Whitney, it's extraordinary to speak with you.
00:58:05.000 Also, you speak really, really quickly.
00:58:07.000 I feel like there can't be that many people, and I count myself as one of the potential ones, that can speak that quickly and listen that quickly.
00:58:14.000 What's it like inside your mind?
00:58:16.000 Are things going fast in there, mate?
00:58:18.000 I had coffee this morning.
00:58:20.000 It's to blame.
00:58:21.000 Probably, but people tend to say I do speak quickly, my brain moves kind of quickly, sorry about that.
00:58:29.000 It's good, it's nice, it's a wonderful trait.
00:58:32.000 Whitney, I think you're doing incredibly well bearing the freight of all of this incredible information, so much of which is ...continually condemned and criticized and presented as conspiratorial but your research suggests that there's a significant cause for in-depth investigation and the only reason these investigations aren't taking place is so much of this stuff is just flat-out true and to present it to a significant number of people to a wide audience would mean that there would be considerable opposition to many of these ideas.
00:59:07.000 We've often said on our show that the whole The cast of data that is considered censored information, the FISA files being booted off into the future, the inability to release the JFK files, the fact that there is this degree of classification suggests that a great deal of information has to be kept from most people in order to prevent a significant uprising and a demand for a total reorganization of the system.
00:59:33.000 There has to be this degree of censorship, misinformation, disinformation, smearing, In order to preserve the cartels that you describe, it's sort of bloody really, really frightening.
00:59:44.000 I don't know why this in particular is frightening, because I suppose it shows people get really killed and some of the more smiley, happy, sort of Disney-fied political figures are in fact involved in weird sex stuff and murder.
00:59:58.000 Going back to Bill Gates, the other kind of slightly terrifying thing for me is that you've got a figure like Bill Gates and a lot of the things that Witness just revealed to us, who's now essentially in charge of our global health policy.
01:00:09.000 You know, you get someone who we know how much money that Bill Gates donates to the media and you can see that that must give him a certain amount of, I guess, protection through the media.
01:00:21.000 But he's also been elevated to a position where he's incredibly influential.
01:00:25.000 So it's not just that people in power are getting away with all sorts of pretty dreadful things.
01:00:31.000 It's that those people are continually elevated to places where they can literally set the agenda for most of the rest of us in the world.
01:00:39.000 As we saw in the pandemic, and as we still see with the regulation that takes place on YouTube, the WHO policy with regard to certain medical matters is the one that determines what can be said and not said on YouTube.
01:00:50.000 That's just one simple example.
01:00:51.000 I wonder sometimes, Whitney, what the counter-narrative could even be.
01:00:56.000 Oh no, Jeffrey Epstein was just this kind of guy, and Bill Clinton was only hanging with him for this reason, and Bill Gates was only... Oh, and that's just... I mean, oh, this suicide is... I mean, it's just such a sort of...
01:01:08.000 A tsunami of malign data that it's sort of, you can't ignore it really, can you?
01:01:14.000 I mean, you obviously can't, Whitney.
01:01:17.000 You're caffeinated up to the eyeballs.
01:01:19.000 You're perched in there in a pastel universe, reporting all these terrifying facts.
01:01:25.000 I don't know how you deal with it, but I'm really grateful to you that you do.
01:01:29.000 Well, thanks.
01:01:30.000 I really, really appreciate that.
01:01:31.000 Will you come on our show again and terrify us with an inch of our lives with more information about how the global powerful can have us executed at will and can make it look like suicide?
01:01:44.000 Sure, I'd love to be back.
01:01:45.000 Thanks so much.
01:01:45.000 Thank you.
01:01:46.000 Well, thank you for joining us from that extraordinary location over there in Chile.
01:01:50.000 And thank you for the great work you do.
01:01:52.000 I'm sure it must take its toll on you and you're bearing it most wonderfully.
01:01:55.000 Thank you.
01:01:57.000 Whitney Webb is the author of One Nation Under Blackmail.
01:01:59.000 We'll post a link so you can get that.
01:02:01.000 And she's a writer for Unlimited Hangout.
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01:02:55.000 Why are you laughing now?
01:02:55.000 No, I'm just saying it keeps on coming, doesn't it?
01:02:58.000 What, Alex Berenson?
01:02:59.000 No, just, you know...
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