Stay Free - Russel Brand - Max Blumenthal (Secrets from the CIA)

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00:00:39.000 We're really having to look a little...

00:00:41.000 We're going to be having a look at the departure of Tucker Carlson from Fox and why the Pentagon is so delighted.

00:00:50.000 Sometimes I think this about radical liberals and whose views I respect and in so many cases absolutely align with.

00:00:59.000 Why are they happy to be on the same side of the Department of Defense and the Pentagon on any sort of issue at all?

00:01:07.000 Like when you imagine Woodstock, the late 60s, the civil rights movement, the great hot stirrings of the summer of 68, a counter-cultural movement, the women's movement, all these powerful voices.

00:01:19.000 They weren't In alliance with big businesses and with the state, they were anti-establishment.

00:01:26.000 It's so extraordinary to me how things have changed.

00:01:30.000 We're going to be talking to Max Blumenthal from the grey zone a little bit later.

00:01:34.000 We will not be able to have this conversation on YouTube.

00:01:37.000 I think it would be dangerous even on Elon Musk's Twitter, even within his great citadel of free speech.

00:01:44.000 Would you be able to openly talk about 9-11 and the CIA.

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00:01:51.000 We're going to be talking to Max Blumenthal, a fine journalist, founder of the Grey Zone, about recent revelations I can't go into here.

00:01:59.000 If they're true, it's another one of those things where the conspiracy theorists had a point.

00:02:05.000 And how many of those have you seen lately?

00:02:07.000 But before we get into that potentially contentious story, Sacrebleu!

00:02:14.000 What's French for fire?

00:02:15.000 Do you know any French?

00:02:16.000 Not a thing, no.

00:02:17.000 You're supposed to know stuff like that.

00:02:19.000 Am I?

00:02:19.000 I look at you and I think you would at least know a bit of French because you can play a certain instrument that has French in it.

00:02:27.000 Yep.

00:02:28.000 Why can't you speak even a word of French?

00:02:29.000 Call yourself an on-screen assistant?

00:02:33.000 Is that what your credit is now?

00:02:34.000 I don't know what it is now.

00:02:36.000 Let's have a look at what's going on in France.

00:02:39.000 It looks actually like riots because people have been lied to.

00:02:43.000 Let's have a look.

00:02:46.000 Tonight, tensions boiling over in France.

00:02:50.000 Hundreds of thousands taking to the streets across the country.

00:02:54.000 That French copper, go back a bit and have a look again.

00:02:57.000 That French copper booted that bin himself.

00:03:01.000 Look at that!

00:03:02.000 You're meant to be...

00:03:05.000 You're in the police force!

00:03:06.000 A lot of people are posting words for fire in France.

00:03:10.000 A lot of people are saying fuego.

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00:03:30.000 But now I'm throwing French copper, kicking a trash can. 1.00

00:03:33.000 Let's see them.

00:03:35.000 Streets across the country protesting against President Emmanuel Macron's move to raise the retirement age by two years to 64.

00:03:42.000 There you go.

00:03:44.000 Ongoing riots and discontent in France because the people there have seen that democracy isn't working.

00:03:49.000 They were rioting outside the offices of Blackrock, weren't they, Gareth?

00:03:53.000 Because they know that this is about centralised finance usurping the process of democracy.

00:03:59.000 And I'm always struck by this, that we are one planet in limitless, potentially infinite space, and on the same little planet with essentially the same kind of interests.

00:04:09.000 And I'm, by the way, not suggesting that there should be centralised power.

00:04:12.000 Far from it.

00:04:12.000 Decentralised power at every opportunity.

00:04:15.000 But on the same planet, there's those riots and there's the Met Gala, which I don't know if you know this.

00:04:20.000 It's sort of like people dress up in outrageous outfits.

00:04:23.000 Have a look at this footage from the Met Gala the other day.

00:04:26.000 People are dressing up as mouses, as cats.

00:04:29.000 Look at this.

00:04:29.000 I think this is the lad at a Dallas Buyers Club.

00:04:32.000 He got himself all nice and thin.

00:04:34.000 He's actually tried to start a cult, I think.

00:04:36.000 Jared Leto, isn't it?

00:04:37.000 Yeah, he played a thin... No, it's Matthew McConaughey.

00:04:40.000 He's the one that got all thin.

00:04:42.000 He's been on our podcast before.

00:04:44.000 I like Matthew McConaughey.

00:04:45.000 He's a good actor.

00:04:46.000 No, he's great.

00:04:47.000 He is good, isn't he?

00:04:47.000 It's not who's inside this cat, just to be clear.

00:04:49.000 It's the other lad.

00:04:50.000 Yeah.

00:04:50.000 It's the other lad out of Dallas Buyers Club.

00:04:52.000 That's it.

00:04:53.000 He's dressed up as a giant mouse, look.

00:04:55.000 Was he?

00:04:56.000 No, it's the cat.

00:04:57.000 Right.

00:04:58.000 Right, this just in.

00:04:59.000 Matthew McConaughey's dressed as a mouse. 1.00

00:05:01.000 That's no less stupid than what's happening. 1.00

00:05:03.000 Jared Leto out of Dallas Buyers Club. 1.00

00:05:07.000 Joker.

00:05:08.000 He's dressed up as a cat.

00:05:10.000 Why?

00:05:10.000 Why is that happening?

00:05:11.000 Just in your mind, hold the image of that French copper kicking a bin because French democracy has been usurped after all those revolutions and guillotinings they've done. 0.96

00:05:20.000 Look at the Met Ball.

00:05:21.000 It's meant to have.

00:05:22.000 Look at this whole story.

00:05:22.000 It's crazy.

00:05:23.000 At fashion's biggest night, the cat is out of the bag.

00:05:29.000 This year's theme, an homage to the late Karl Lagerfeld, known for his signature black and white designs.

00:05:36.000 How, like, they went signature, and they showed Karl Lagerfeld doing the signature.

00:05:40.000 Then they went black and white designs, and they showed a black and white picture of him.

00:05:44.000 Like, not every word needs to be illustrated with an image.

00:05:48.000 It's too much, isn't it?

00:05:49.000 It's too overwhelming.

00:05:50.000 They were catatonic about... Like a tonic, a cat.

00:05:56.000 It's too much!

00:05:57.000 Like, this is an homage to Karl Lagerfeld at the Met Ball.

00:06:02.000 These things I remember, because I remember when I used to be famous.

00:06:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:06.000 Don't say it like that!

00:06:07.000 No, no, I remember it.

00:06:08.000 I was there for a lot of it.

00:06:09.000 I was being famous, and things like that Met Ball would happen.

00:06:13.000 I've never been to that.

00:06:15.000 Oh, you didn't go to the Met Ball?

00:06:15.000 But when I was married to KP, I remember she went to that, and I was like, oh, do you have to go to that thing?

00:06:22.000 But she wanted to, and that's her right as a free individual, of course, and she did go.

00:06:27.000 Everyone goes there.

00:06:28.000 Well, they're all dressed up like that.

00:06:29.000 It's like, it's mental, isn't it?

00:06:30.000 Yeah.

00:06:30.000 What was your reason for, like, staying home?

00:06:32.000 Just you fancied a night in or something?

00:06:34.000 I don't fancy things like that, mate.

00:06:35.000 Right.

00:06:36.000 I don't fancy things like that.

00:06:36.000 It makes me nervous.

00:06:37.000 Did you maybe, like, you bought a curry or something?

00:06:39.000 You're like, we'll have a night in.

00:06:40.000 Don't go off to the Met.

00:06:41.000 We'll have a nice night in.

00:06:43.000 I'll have been doing something.

00:06:44.000 I'm not trying to say, oh, look at me, aren't I normal?

00:06:46.000 Because I'm strange in so many ways.

00:06:48.000 But when it comes to that, I don't like it.

00:06:50.000 I think you are pretty normal.

00:06:52.000 I'll be honest.

00:06:52.000 Am I?

00:06:53.000 The night in with you is about as far away from that as possible.

00:06:56.000 I'd rather watch football, have something to eat.

00:06:58.000 A little curry.

00:06:59.000 Got your trays?

00:07:00.000 Got my tray on me lap!

00:07:01.000 Like when we were at Man City Arsenal.

00:07:03.000 Yeah, mate, if you want to put a cushion.

00:07:04.000 But I'll be honest with you, my tray's already got a cushion built into the tray.

00:07:08.000 Get an extra cushion and put it under.

00:07:10.000 That's a little tip from me.

00:07:11.000 I can have that for free.

00:07:13.000 That's the thing with doing this job all day long. 0.74

00:07:15.000 NATO is corrupt.

00:07:17.000 This war we're being lied about. 0.67

00:07:18.000 You can't trust the pharmaceutical industry.

00:07:20.000 We're being censored and surveilled.

00:07:22.000 But when you go home, you're just a normal person.

00:07:24.000 All right, kids.

00:07:25.000 They don't talk to you.

00:07:26.000 What did you do at school?

00:07:27.000 Tell us something.

00:07:28.000 Tell us something that you did at school.

00:07:30.000 You went to the Met Gala?

00:07:34.000 I'm just back from the Met Gala.

00:07:36.000 Dallas Buyers Club was dressed as a giant cat.

00:07:40.000 What?

00:07:40.000 What's going on?

00:07:41.000 Meanwhile, France is melting down.

00:07:44.000 It's too confusing.

00:07:45.000 Look at this.

00:07:46.000 They've taken some pharaoh out of his carsophagus and given him his voice back. 0.98

00:07:53.000 I've given him his voice back.

00:07:54.000 It's really, really funny because I'm confused by it.

00:07:57.000 I'm confused by it as a concept, and it's certainly very confusing as a noise.

00:08:02.000 And look at all of the pageantry that went on then.

00:08:05.000 We're talking about the Royal Wedding, not Royal Wedding, Coronation later this week, and the amount of pageantry that went on and that goes on now.

00:08:11.000 Ridiculous pageantry.

00:08:13.000 Well, in those days, they'd bury a pharaoh with their servants. 0.96

00:08:15.000 They'd bury him with all sorts of artifacts and art and all that kind of stuff.

00:08:19.000 Scientists were able to mimic Nessie Amun's voice by recreating his mouth and vocal cords with a 3D printer.

00:08:23.000 and his voice was like, "No, let's get down his voice box and give him a new voice."

00:08:27.000 Look at this bizarre piece of news.

00:08:28.000 Scientists were able to mimic Nessie Amun's voice by recreating his mouth and vocal cords with a 3D printer.

00:08:36.000 It allowed them to produce a single sound.

00:08:39.000 [Nessie Amun screams]

00:08:40.000 [Nessie Amun laughs]

00:08:42.000 Why?!

00:08:44.000 Let me rest! 0.70

00:08:45.000 I didn't even like seeing his little tootsies down there, like these little bare feet all like sort of all twizzled up by time. 0.66

00:08:51.000 Like, leave him down there, in there, isn't it? 0.51

00:08:55.000 Don't you?

00:08:55.000 Should you?

00:08:56.000 Yeah, I mean, that's...

00:09:01.000 That's the sound you could make at all culture.

00:09:05.000 There's a copper kicking a bin in France.

00:09:08.000 I mean, what great revelation are they taking from this?

00:09:11.000 I don't understand.

00:09:12.000 Did they not think that someone back then could have made that noise?

00:09:15.000 It seems that this pharaoh, at least, was unhappy about being dug out of his tomb and made to speak thousands of years later. 0.98

00:09:25.000 We are being sort of reduced to idiocy through the meter of our culture. 0.99

00:09:30.000 It's like dumbing down. 1.00

00:09:31.000 That's what dumbing down feels like.

00:09:33.000 Here's someone dressed as a cat. 0.91

00:09:34.000 Here's a copper kick in a bin.

00:09:36.000 Meanwhile, banks are collapsing, wars are going on, agitating China, encircling them with military bases.

00:09:44.000 This experiment's not working properly.

00:09:46.000 This is time for a radical re-evaluation.

00:09:48.000 Let us know.

00:09:49.000 I mean, we're thinking about starting new communities.

00:09:50.000 I believe Jared Leto tried a community, didn't he?

00:09:52.000 Wow.

00:09:53.000 Look at him now.

00:09:57.000 This is one of our fans.

00:09:58.000 If ever you want to know where technology could potentially take you, this is an experiment to recreate a voice box

00:10:04.000 that we've shown you before, but we'll show you again because it's not disgusting, but it looks disgusting and it

00:10:09.000 sounds weird.

00:10:10.000 Merry Christmas.

00:10:21.000 What's that achieving?

00:10:23.000 It looks a bit like, with that mic in front of his mouth, it's like he's at the Met Gala and someone's gone, what are you wearing today?

00:10:34.000 Will you be appearing as the Joker again?

00:10:39.000 Where did you get those pearls and did it take a long time to get those out of the bottom of the sea and then polish them and then turn them into a dress? 0.51

00:10:47.000 Can we have four more years of Joe Biden?

00:10:51.000 Can we have a press dinner where nobody mentions when celebrating journalism that Julian Assange is in prison without trial in the United Kingdom awaiting extradition?

00:11:02.000 Because of the Espionage Act, because he revealed information that's definitely sensitive, but also, I would say, relevant to the American taxpayers who are paying for these wars.

00:11:10.000 Remember, you are paying $1,000 every single year to the military-industrial complex.

00:11:14.000 We're going to be bringing you a report about that later this week.

00:11:16.000 So what you did there, you kind of turned that into a kind of drone, I would suggest.

00:11:19.000 To satire, I guess.

00:11:20.000 Yes, yes.

00:11:21.000 Very good, very good.

00:11:24.000 Oh yeah, I can use my noise.

00:11:25.000 Someone's pointed out that I've got this noise and I can use it whenever I want.

00:11:31.000 Oh, should we leave?

00:11:32.000 Listen, guys, I think we're going to leave.

00:11:33.000 If you're watching us on YouTube or Elon Musk's citadel of free speech, that is Twitter.

00:11:39.000 We're going to leave you now because we are we're going to speak to Max Blumenthal, who's a fantastic journalist.

00:11:45.000 Absolutely fantastic.

00:11:47.000 He founded Grayzone.

00:11:49.000 Found it.

00:11:49.000 He founded it.

00:11:50.000 And then he bloody well edits it.

00:11:51.000 Wow.

00:11:52.000 Look what I found.

00:11:53.000 Found it.

00:11:53.000 Didn't found it.

00:11:54.000 Like find it.

00:11:55.000 He founded it.

00:11:56.000 Like it's foundation.

00:11:57.000 Then he edits it.

00:11:58.000 Right.

00:11:59.000 Nice isn't it?

00:12:00.000 Have you ever thought you might start editing this?

00:12:02.000 No mate, I find it too hard.

00:12:05.000 We're going to be talking to him, we're off YouTube already, but like we're going to talk to him about, well I think people got the idea that it was going to be about 9-11 saying that the CIA, like the two of the 9-11 hijackers were CIA operatives.

00:12:18.000 Recruits, yeah.

00:12:20.000 Now that doesn't necessarily mean that 9-11 was a CIA scam, but put together, look at the various things you've seen.

00:12:27.000 Whether it's that loose change documentary that used to be on YouTube, don't know if it still is.

00:12:30.000 Tell us guys, is it still on YouTube?

00:12:32.000 Can you find it now?

00:12:32.000 Tell us in the chat.

00:12:35.000 Or, if you're like a Michael Moore type person, remember Fahrenheit 9-11 when he was saying all the Saudi Royals were getting flown out of there and the Bushes and the Saudi Royal family?

00:12:43.000 It used to be that you could get radical stuff from the left, and that's one of the reasons I like Max Blumenthal.

00:12:48.000 I don't think he's a right-wing fascist, and I don't think he's an anti-Semite, because I feel like Blumenthal might be a Jewish name I've not asked before.

00:12:57.000 All right, Max, are you a right-wing fascist anti-Semite?

00:13:01.000 Let's get that out from the top. 0.99

00:13:04.000 Well, I've been called a self-hating Jew.

00:13:06.000 So they do.

00:13:08.000 You know, I always wondered why the self-loving Jews who call me a self-hater hate so many people from, you know, Palestinians, Muslims.

00:13:18.000 It's always a question I've had.

00:13:20.000 And why they seem to favor sending U.S.

00:13:22.000 taxpayer dollars to neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

00:13:27.000 You know, they care so much about our history.

00:13:30.000 But, uh, you know, it really depends on who you ask what label you want to apply to me.

00:13:35.000 It's harder to get to anti-Semitism accusations for someone who is themselves Jewish, I would have thought, than people that are explicitly neo-Nazis, do the actual salute and everything, are down with a swastika.

00:13:50.000 Like that, for me, seems like a more legit charge of anti-Semitism. 0.81

00:13:54.000 I mean, I think we can conclusively say that the Nazis are anti-Semitic.

00:13:57.000 Yeah, we can definitely talk about that.

00:14:00.000 Can we ask you a little bit about the CIA infiltration of the 9/11 hijackers and how this is distinct

00:14:07.000 from the kind of conspiracy theories that have circled around that event for the last 20 years

00:14:12.000 or however long it is since it happened?

00:14:14.000 Yeah, we can definitely talk about that.

00:14:18.000 This was related to a report we ran, another masterpiece by Kit Clarenberg, who you've had on,

00:14:25.000 and I've written about this case in my book, the Management of Savagery, which came out in 2019.

00:14:31.000 When I wrote that book, which is about the history of the US and its allies using jihadists, As proxies, as assets to undermine their geopolitical foes from the Soviet Union to Syria, we didn't know as much as we know now.

00:14:49.000 There had been an investigation called Operation Encore that the FBI, that involved the FBI agents who had been attempting to Prevent or did 9-11 attacks or were at least investigating Al Qaeda and that investigation ended in 2016.

00:15:09.000 The results were completely redacted and so it took until 2021, for a 21-page filing by a guy named Don Conestraro, who is the lead investigator for the Office of Military Commissions, which was overseeing the cases of 9-11 defendants, for us to really learn what had always been suspected, and which I got at in my book.

00:15:32.000 I said I suspected that two of the hijackers on American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, Had been recruited by the CIA and by a very secretive and I would say corrupt unit within the CIA that had been charged since 1996 with taking on Osama bin Laden and the Al Qaeda network.

00:15:53.000 It's called Alex Station.

00:15:56.000 And, you know, this is widely suspected that they had been possibly recruited by the CIA.

00:16:02.000 And it's it was confirmed by FBI agents interviewed by Don Conestraro in this bombshell filing, which was and of course, it was completely buried, just like a few blogs had picked it up.

00:16:14.000 And so Kit went ahead and put all of the details together for us going back through Operation Encore and, you know, taking us to the beginning of the cover-up of the 9-11 plot, the cover-up by the CIA.

00:16:30.000 That's not the same, of course, as saying that 9-11 was an inside job and it certainly doesn't verify some of the ideas that have circulated.

00:16:37.000 Although, of course, it's not the only inconsistency or troubling piece of reporting that's taken place around that event.

00:16:46.000 And of course, it's well established that the CIA, as you said, participated in the establishment of Al-Qaeda, funded Al-Qaeda.

00:16:53.000 So it's not implausible that there were recruits from al-Qaeda operating in the US.

00:17:00.000 It's sort of all-- it's kind of sort of likely.

00:17:03.000 Does that open the door, though, to conjecture around the events of 9/11 more broadly? 0.99

00:17:08.000 And sometimes, like, forgive me if this is like a kind of question an idiot would ask. 0.98

00:17:13.000 It possibly is derived from the fact that, to some degree, I am one. 0.96

00:17:16.000 Isn't it, like, true that, like, Building 7, that there was a building in New York that kind of went down and then it just sort of stopped talking about it?

00:17:25.000 My memories are hazy of that event and, like, you know, it's difficult to deliberately and responsibly put together narrative points that are proven.

00:17:36.000 Building 7's weird.

00:17:37.000 I mean, I'm a 9-11 conservative.

00:17:40.000 I get a lot of heat from people who think it was an inside job.

00:17:45.000 Building 7's just weird.

00:17:46.000 I mean, I remember on the day of 9-11 just hearing that Building 7 had gone down because of the impact to the other buildings, and it just sounded weird to me.

00:17:56.000 The footage looks unusual.

00:17:59.000 But I prefer to stick to the facts that I really know the most about, and this case is something that I've

00:18:07.000 followed for years, the case of Khaled al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who are the two kind of

00:18:15.000 muscle hijackers, supposed muscle hijackers on American Flight 77.

00:18:21.000 And it's very clear they were recruited by the CIA.

00:18:25.000 So within the, you know, the theories, or those who hold theories around 9-11, there's kind of three schools of thought.

00:18:34.000 Did the CIA do this because they simply wanted to infiltrate al-Qaeda and gain sources, and they protected these sources from the FBI?

00:18:44.000 If the FBI had been alerted about the presence, and I'll tell you the whole story of al-Hazmi and al-Midhar in a second, but if they had not protected these sources from the FBI, the 9-11 plot would have been easily broken up.

00:18:59.000 So, was it just because they wanted to gain access to al-Qaeda, or did they allow the 9-11 attacks to happen in order to produce what Paul Wolfowitz called, in the weeks before 9-11, the catastrophic and catalyzing event that would allow the U.S. 0.60

00:19:16.000 to wage a massive military intervention in the Middle East and carry out its and Israel's goals?

00:19:21.000 And then there's the third school of thought, which is that the U.S.

00:19:25.000 government Or US intelligence was directly involved in the plotting of the attack in order to carry out those geopolitical and imperial objectives.

00:19:35.000 And in the first camp, as I said, I'm a 9-11 conservative, but these new revelations raise a lot of questions about motives.

00:19:46.000 I think it's generally obviously sensible to remain conservative particularly when dealing with such sensitive matters and even on our channel where we fuse entertainment and conjecture we are careful to ensure that we only use reliable information that's already been published frequently from Greyzone as a matter of fact but if you apply this conservatism in this instance Where does it take you to even have the information that the CIA had operatives that were on flight 77?

00:20:22.000 I know you named them.

00:20:25.000 So what?

00:20:27.000 Like they couldn't have been prevented, I suppose.

00:20:29.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:20:31.000 Could have been prevented and Al-Qaeda could have never been created.

00:20:35.000 I mean, we can go back to 1979.

00:20:38.000 But in this case, you have, it's pretty fair to say, at least one component of the Day of Planes operation that had been planned for years and years and years to strike strategic targets inside the United States.

00:20:52.000 One component was a Saudi CIA intelligence operation gone, to put it conservatively, gone awry.

00:20:58.000 So you have Khaled Al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, two Saudi citizens,

00:21:03.000 radical al-Qaeda ideologues, who appear at a 1999 meeting in Malaysia. Sorry, this is a January 5th

00:21:20.000 meeting in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, with some of the top lieutenants of al-Qaeda, including a

00:21:28.000 figure who is involved in the bombing of the USS Cole just about a few months earlier.

00:21:35.000 And here you have CIA operatives videotaping the meeting.

00:21:45.000 Apparently, they got no audio.

00:21:47.000 They then broke into Khalid al-Midhar's hotel room when he was transiting through Dubai

00:21:53.000 after the meeting, took a picture of his passport, and found that he had a multi-entry visa to

00:21:59.000 Okay, so you have a hardcore al-Qaeda operative with a multi-entry visa to the US, and not only that, he and his buddy, Al-Hazmi,

00:22:10.000 were able to, from there, get on a flight to Los Angeles International Airport,

00:22:16.000 walk off the flight with no interrogation or questioning, and then be picked up at the airport

00:22:21.000 by someone named Omar Al-Bayoumi, who is another Saudi citizen operating undercover

00:22:27.000 as an employee of the Saudi Aviation Ministry, or as an aviation employee.

00:22:34.000 So he could, I guess, get access to the airport.

00:22:37.000 He then takes them to rent an apartment, gives them $1,500 a month for that apartment.

00:22:42.000 These are two guys who speak not a word of English.

00:22:45.000 They're picked up, according to their neighbors, in black limos every night,

00:22:49.000 and are meeting with strange men.

00:22:52.000 They're going to flight lessons, and it later turns out that they were actually living

00:22:56.000 in that apartment with an FBI informant.

00:23:00.000 Bayoumi, of course, turns out to be a Saudi intelligence officer who is managing these two figures.

00:23:06.000 And the FBI never learns that these two figures were in the country after attending the super summit of Al Qaeda on their way to carry out an attack that George W. Bush was warned about in Crawford, Texas, A month before it took place in a presidential daily briefing, Bin Laden determined to strike inside the U.S.

00:23:27.000 This was at a time when the system was blinking red, according to former U.S.

00:23:32.000 intelligence officials.

00:23:34.000 And what happened was, the director of Alex Station, this corrupt and highly secretive CIA unit which was charged with recruiting al-Qaeda officials, or recruiting al-Qaeda assets, Richard Blea refused to tell the FBI's unit in charge of investigating al-Qaeda that al-Kadhimi and al-Midhar were even inside the United States.

00:24:01.000 There are so many more acts of cover-up that took place to prevent the FBI from learning about them as this plot progressed.

00:24:12.000 They weren't even told that they were on the flight manifest of American Airlines Flight 77 until days after the attack.

00:24:19.000 The FBI wasn't even told that they had been at a meeting in Malaysia with a planner, a known planner, of the attack on the USS Cole.

00:24:27.000 So, the CIA covered this up all the way to 9-11, and it's the same CIA that is responsible in so many ways for fueling the rise of al-Qaeda and keeping it alive to the present day.

00:24:41.000 And in fact, yes, you're quite right that you can sort of chart the history of the CIA to the founding of the Mujahideen.

00:24:50.000 And also you can say that there are still people in power, as you just did, that are participating, presumably, in

00:24:59.000 comparable programs even now.

00:25:02.000 And I guess that's when we talk about the deep state.

00:25:04.000 We're talking about inaccessible institutions and bodies that are able to act without mandate in ways that seem to

00:25:13.000 be at odds with the interests of the American population and perhaps the world at large.

00:25:19.000 And the way that the kind of global narrative is managed and enacted right up to present day conflicts and potential

00:25:29.000 forthcoming conflicts involves these agencies.

00:25:33.000 So sometimes even when you're approaching it conservatively in the manner that you understandably are when it's such a potentially incendiary story, it's still difficult not to I feel that the system of government and deep government in particular is concerning.

00:25:48.000 Mate, do you suppose that when we talk about a story like the Nord Stream Pipeline, which increasingly appears to have been an operation conducted by forces of this nature, Do you imagine that with the burgeoning conflict between the United States and China, Taiwan could be subject to a kind of a Nord Stream-like event within their semiconductor industry?

00:26:20.000 Yeah, that's a great question.

00:26:23.000 You know, it's not just, and it's not just idle talk.

00:26:29.000 Give me two seconds and I'll pull up the name of the former U.S.

00:26:33.000 General who has actually proposed a U.S.

00:26:37.000 attack on Taiwan's semiconductor industry to prevent it from falling.

00:26:43.000 This is a former National Security Advisor to Donald Trump.

00:26:47.000 While you're looking for that data, I'll just... I have it right in front of me.

00:26:50.000 It's Richard, it's Robert O'Brien.

00:26:52.000 And he was a major figure in the Trump administration's kitchen cabinet of national security advisors.

00:26:57.000 And he has called for the US to bomb Taiwan's semiconductor industry, which would be actually a much more serious attack on the global economy than Nord Stream.

00:27:09.000 I mean, Taiwan produces the majority of semiconductors through its TSMC, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company.

00:27:17.000 I mean, just basically a collapse of the global economy in order to prevent the factory and the technology from falling into Chinese hands. 1.00

00:27:27.000 And this is not just Robert O'Brien calling for this.

00:27:31.000 We have other U.S.

00:27:32.000 think tanks that have, you know, the Center for, other U.S.

00:27:38.000 think tanks, sorry, the U.S.

00:27:39.000 Army War College actually So, this is not necessarily a call for a false flag attack to trigger a war, but it shows that the U.S.

00:27:51.000 would willingly devastate Taiwan and Taiwan's economy to prevent this critical asset from falling into Chinese hands.

00:27:58.000 And it really highlights how the U.S.

00:28:00.000 sees its supposed allies, who are really just proxies, and that includes Ukraine.

00:28:05.000 The U.S.

00:28:06.000 is willing to see Ukraine's economy destroyed and its best men killed to extend a war Against Russia thrown into a slaughterhouse in order to bleed Russia. 0.75

00:28:18.000 We should pull up that clip of the mainstream media where that current sitting US politicians said like like where they were asked them on the mainstream.

00:28:28.000 Is this the semiconductors?

00:28:30.000 That's like the resource wars of the 90s, isn't it?

00:28:34.000 Where you sort of had we have to have control these semiconductors and they just plainly said on the TV.

00:28:38.000 Yeah, we can't lose control of them.

00:28:40.000 And then he went like 10 seconds later.

00:28:42.000 But actually, this is a war about democracy and freedom.

00:28:45.000 Just have said it.

00:28:46.000 Democracy and freedom is what keeps us motivated.

00:28:48.000 I'm glad you kept talking a moment ago because I was, to fill time, going to ask you a question that Firegirl2020 was asking in the chat.

00:28:55.000 Did you enjoy the Met Gala?

00:28:58.000 Did you ask Max if he watched the Met Ball?

00:29:02.000 I feel that Max may not know that there was a Met Gala that took place.

00:29:08.000 I've been taking a break and I'm in Mexico right now, so I missed out on all that nihilistic dystopian hijinks.

00:29:17.000 They were dressed up as cats and stuff.

00:29:19.000 Yeah, it was pretty good.

00:29:20.000 Hey, have you got that clip anywhere?

00:29:23.000 Has anyone got that out the back or is it to Michael McCaw?

00:29:28.000 If you can find that Michael McCaw.

00:29:29.000 Was he on ABC?

00:29:31.000 Chuck Todd, yeah.

00:29:32.000 See if you can find that.

00:29:36.000 Nice one, Phil.

00:29:37.000 So do you, in short, do you think that the fact that there are semiconductor factories in Taiwan is a not insignificant consideration amidst this growing hostility?

00:29:51.000 Is that a question for me?

00:29:52.000 Max, do you think that's a significant component?

00:29:55.000 If there were no semiconductor factories in Taiwan, would this all be going down now?

00:30:02.000 Well, it is a major component, but it doesn't also explain U.S.

00:30:07.000 Aggression vis-a-vis Philippines toward China.

00:30:10.000 I mean, this is about surrounding and encircling China, creating kind of a pressure cooker effect on China's leadership and forcing China to spend more and more money on its military and less on its social programs and, you know, driving this program Xi Jinping has of building a middle class and redeveloping the country.

00:30:33.000 It's about, it is also about competing with China, but I assume by now the US would be eager to move those semiconductor plants to a place they would consider safer because as Thomas Friedman wrote, Taiwan is to be the US porcupine against China.

00:30:50.000 Taiwan is like, If you consider the concept of Israel, as explained by former Secretary of State Alexander Haig, where Israel is an unsinkable aircraft carrier, it's a colonial implant in the middle of the Middle East that's a Spartan state armed to the teeth with the most advanced weaponry, and the U.S. 0.63

00:31:09.000 is going to use it to attack any country That takes an independent or adversarial position, and that's why Israel has invaded Lebanon, attacked Hezbollah, why it's constantly bombing Syria these days, and it says it's attacking Iranian targets. 0.65

00:31:22.000 It just attacked deep in Syria in Homs.

00:31:26.000 So, that's also the role of Ukraine against Russia, a country that's controlled from the outside by the U.S., to antagonize Russia, to keep it in a constant state of war, To keep its leadership paranoid.

00:31:40.000 And then Taiwan plays that role with China.

00:31:44.000 And to a certain extent, South Korea, Japan, and Philippines are intended to play the same role.

00:31:50.000 Which is why, by the way, the U.S.

00:31:52.000 is so hostile to a peace arrangement between North and South Korea.

00:31:56.000 With so many unpalatable truths, so palpably and demonstrably factual, it's clear that you require powerful machinery to prevent people assessing reality in those blunt terms.

00:32:13.000 You need ongoing deep state operations.

00:32:16.000 You need a compliant media.

00:32:18.000 You don't need people Inquiring about the true nature of geopolitics and the kind of corporate and military relationships and the kind of colonial and resource necessities that underwrite much of the action that we're describing.

00:32:34.000 And with the ability for this kind of counter-narrative to be expressed, like either on Greyzone or reported on our channel, you need censorship and surveillance.

00:32:44.000 No wonder Julian Assange is in prison.

00:32:48.000 No wonder Edward Snowden's in Russia.

00:32:50.000 What do you think when you see something like that White House Correspondents' Dinner, like this sort of congratulatory circle jerk, where apparently the consensus between the media and the state is sort of reiterated and the framing for what's possible to discuss is reasserted? 0.71

00:33:09.000 Yeah, I mean, what you see with the White House press correspondence dinner is the most hated group in America. 0.92

00:33:14.000 Hated more than even Congress.

00:33:16.000 And justifiably so.

00:33:17.000 The regular American people hate the media because they know they're being lied to.

00:33:22.000 And the media is there, the elite beltway media, giving itself awards for publishing fake stories.

00:33:29.000 Going back to the Steele dossier on Russiagate, they were celebrating themselves for publishing fake stories because the means justify the ends, and then the means was humiliating and destroying Donald Trump.

00:33:41.000 In this case, it's about celebrating and circling the wagons around Joe Biden, a doddering figure who, I mean, he put on a pretty good performance there, but someone who is simply representative of the establishment and the kind of subculture that exists inside the Beltway that the rest of Americans are hostile to for justifiable reasons.

00:34:05.000 And this is the same press that's trying to lie us into a war with China over Taiwan that that's continuing to push this endless proxy war with

00:34:15.000 Ukraine, that's basically a cheerleader for that war. 0.56

00:34:18.000 And that was the main vessel for duping the public into supporting war with Iraq.

00:34:25.000 And what they're going to do if there is conflict with China is sell the war the same way they

00:34:33.000 It's a war for freedom and they'll cover up any false flag or any incident that drives us into that war.

00:34:41.000 And you know who knows better than the press is actually the rank and file of the US military.

00:34:47.000 They do not want to go to war with China because tens of thousands of enlisted soldiers will die in the name That's not just according to me.

00:35:01.000 That's according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies, which is a neoconservative-oriented, very anti-China think tank in Washington, which ran 24 war games, pitting the U.S.

00:35:13.000 military against China, following a hypothetical Chinese invasion of Taiwan in 2026.

00:35:19.000 They found that the U.S.

00:35:20.000 lost dozens of ships Hundreds of aircraft and tens of thousands of service members.

00:35:25.000 And Taiwan's economy was devastated, which means you can assume there will be hundreds of thousands of dead Taiwanese people.

00:35:33.000 Maybe millions.

00:35:34.000 Maybe a nuclear exchange.

00:35:35.000 Maybe nuclear weapons reach China and Guam.

00:35:38.000 Maybe they reach California.

00:35:40.000 Hawaii has already run emergency operations where they were told that missiles were incoming.

00:35:47.000 It was a a lie, but the citizens there were terrorized into

00:35:50.000 believing it in order to test the response systems.

00:35:53.000 So, whatever you think about China, I know there are many people watching this who don't like

00:35:58.000 China's system because they saw what it did in response to COVID. This is about human life

00:36:05.000 being devastated.

00:36:06.000 And if that war ever takes place, it will produce an existential crisis inside the U.S.

00:36:11.000 that will destroy whatever's left of the of the veneer of democracy and the press.

00:36:17.000 Those people cheering Biden like sycophantic, loyal stenographers for the empire.

00:36:23.000 They will be responsible and they will be least likely to die because they'll be furthest away from the fight.

00:36:29.000 We'll look at the mainstream media now discussing the burgeoning conflict and look at the transition between truth and propaganda that takes place even within the clip.

00:36:38.000 This is Michael McCaul, I can't remember if it's CNN or ABC, one of them.

00:36:42.000 Have a look.

00:36:42.000 Make the basic case for why Americans not only should care about what happens in Taiwan, but should be willing to spill American blood and treasure to defend Taiwan.

00:36:52.000 Nobody wants that.

00:36:53.000 I think the deterrence is key here.

00:36:56.000 We travel to Japan, South Korea.

00:36:59.000 We are in Guam.

00:37:00.000 We are meeting with our allies, our partners here, if you will.

00:37:04.000 They don't have a NATO in the Pacific, but they do have partners.

00:37:08.000 We want to make sure that they are ready and supportive of the United States and Taiwan.

00:37:13.000 The case for Taiwan, that's a very good question.

00:37:17.000 About 50% of international trade goes through the international straits, but I think more importantly, Chuck, is that the TSMC manufactures 90% of the global supply of advanced semiconductor chips.

00:37:35.000 If China invades and either owns or breaks this, we're in a world of hurt. 0.95

00:37:43.000 There you go.

00:37:44.000 All right, Max.

00:37:45.000 Hey, thanks very much for joining us for that.

00:37:49.000 We really appreciate your time.

00:37:50.000 What room are you in there?

00:37:52.000 Is that your house?

00:37:53.000 And why is there such a big dreamcatcher there?

00:37:57.000 I don't have any dreamcatchers in my house.

00:37:58.000 That would be cultural appropriation.

00:38:02.000 I'm somewhere in an undisclosed location at an Airbnb in Mexico.

00:38:08.000 For the best that you don't disclose it, some of the ideas you come out with, conservative on the subject of 9-11 or otherwise.

00:38:15.000 Thanks, Max.

00:38:16.000 It's great to speak to you and great to learn from you.

00:38:18.000 You can get more from Max by going to thegreyzone.com.

00:38:21.000 You can read his book, The Management of Savagery, and, you know, just follow Max.

00:38:26.000 Love and adore Max.

00:38:27.000 Cheers, Max.

00:38:28.000 Lovely speaking to you, mate.

00:38:29.000 That was fantastic.

00:38:31.000 Um, okay, so listen, right, we're gonna, in a minute, we're talking to Barry Weiss, one of the Twitterphile journalists, she's brilliant, we've spoke to her before.

00:38:42.000 On Locals.

00:38:44.000 Yeah, so if you're a member of Locals, right, so you're watching this on Rumble now, join Locals.

00:38:48.000 Oh dear, that's rude.

00:38:50.000 You can join this rude conversation and also you can watch us live chat to Barry Weiss.

00:38:55.000 We always do stuff like when Jordan Peterson came on, we chatted to him live on there.

00:38:58.000 When Eckhart Tolle came on, we chatted to him live on there.

00:39:00.000 When Vandana Shiva came on, we chatted to her live on there.

00:39:02.000 Now Barry Weiss is going to chat to her live on there.

00:39:03.000 So join Locals, right?

00:39:05.000 Click over there.

00:39:06.000 And yeah, I think you've got to press that red button.

00:39:09.000 Also, there's like weekly podcasts where I do guided meditations.

00:39:13.000 They're really good.

00:39:14.000 And you'll learn more about the stuff we do.

00:39:15.000 Look at my dog, isn't he lovely?

00:39:17.000 He's a lovely lad, isn't he?

00:39:18.000 Isn't she a good boy?

00:39:19.000 Isn't she a good boy?

00:39:20.000 Yeah, Frenchie Buff's new to locals.

00:39:23.000 She's just saying she or he or him or her or they, I don't care. 0.88

00:39:26.000 And they're getting right in there with a balls chat. 0.86

00:39:28.000 They're having a balls chat.

00:39:29.000 Nice.

00:39:30.000 Regular item, maybe?

00:39:32.000 In the future, we could.

00:39:32.000 Regular item.

00:39:34.000 How do you like them?

00:39:35.000 Like, I mean, if you can make King Charles's head out of chocolate and medals out of bounty bars and stuff, and that is something that's happened, and we'll be talking about that later in the week, then why can't people just chat about nutbags? 1.00

00:39:35.000 Right. 1.00

00:39:47.000 No, they can.

00:39:48.000 They can, can't they?

00:39:49.000 Join us at Community Festival as well between the 14th and 17th of July.

00:39:53.000 And tomorrow on our show, Stay Free, we've got Daniel Chandler, who's my mate, who's talking about the philosophy and politics of John Rawls.

00:40:01.000 He's talking about equality, Stuff like that.

00:40:03.000 It's going to be a fantastic conversation.

00:40:04.000 She's my friend, so I know it'll be brilliant and we'll talk about... I'm going to sneeze.

00:40:10.000 See that sneeze technique?

00:40:12.000 That's my technique.

00:40:13.000 Really good.

00:40:14.000 That's my technique.

00:40:15.000 That's the one I use.

00:40:16.000 But now, we're off.

00:40:18.000 So come tomorrow to see us chatting to Daniel Chandler about his book, Free and Equal, what would a fair society look like.

00:40:25.000 And if you're on Locals, you can stay with us and see us chat to Barry Weiss.

00:40:29.000 And I'm going to be watching.

00:40:30.000 I'm personally with the change and I have respect for Barry because he's a brilliant journalist.

00:40:33.000 So I'm not going to be feeding dog treats to a German shepherd and chatting to you lot about airy nutbags. 0.61

00:40:40.000 That's not the way to win a culture war. 1.00

00:40:42.000 That's not the way to get people to come together against establishment power, to throw off the shackles of a media that wants you dumb. 0.85

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00:40:53.000 Click the red button, join us there.

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Max Blumenthal (Secrets from the CIA)

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