In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, we re-unite with Neil Oliver, host of the BBC Radio 4's Breakfast Show, to discuss what it means to be a 'populist' in the modern world, and why we should all wake up together to the idea that our hearts are closed to one another if we don't wake up. Plus, we've got a fantastic investigation into the role of the media and government in the Pandemic, and an exclusive discount code for 20% off the whole basket at the checkout. Stay Free with Russell Brand is out now, and if you haven't already done so, use the code RUMBLEMERCH at checkout and join us over on Rumble. Download the app so you re informed when free speech is coming your way! Plus, merchandise is back! We ve got hats and hoodies, this mug, t-shirts and so much more! And for you, for a limited time, we ve got a 20% discount! Use the code "RUMBLE MERCH" at checkout to save 20% on the entire basket! Enjoy! - Russell Brand and stay free, you're gonna love it! - Timestamps: 0:00 - What is a Populist? - What does it mean to you? - How do you feel about the current political landscape? - 5:30 - What do you find it hard to be left-wing or right-wing? - Why do you think it s better than the centre? - 6:15 - What are you feel apathetic or apathetic? - Is it a better than left? - 8:40 - What s your favourite part of the political landscape more important than right? - 9: What do we need to be? - 10:00 | 11:00 - What would you like to know about it? - 13:30 - How does it matter? - 14:30 | 15:00 Is it possible to be an old-school or left-school? - 16:10 17:40 - Is there a middle-schooly? - 17:00 What's your favourite party? - 18:00 Do you feel left or right or right? - Are you left or left? 19:00 / 16:00 Are you apathetic for the left or a right-schooled? - 20:00? - 21:00 Or is it a little bit more?
00:02:12.000Thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand today.
00:02:15.000It's a fantastic conversation with Neil Oliver coming up.
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00:02:37.000Could it be possibly true that the government We've paid the media to favorably report on certain medications.
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00:03:16.000Okay, now get ready for a fantastic conversation with Neil Oliver, a valuable contributor, an open-hearted man, and in particular, note how he brings gentle spirit to complex conversations.
00:03:27.000How are we going to progress to one another if our hearts are closed?
00:04:06.000It's almost a violation of any privacy acts that may yet remain.
00:04:12.000I've been in that fireplace for the last couple of days observing you, and you have not been found wanting.
00:04:19.000You are a brilliant and wry Gaelic poet.
00:04:23.000I enjoyed our conversation last time and I'm interested to talk, as you might imagine, more about globalism and more about freedom and more about, you know, like what might have happened here.
00:04:35.000Let me tell you this because I sort of ask you this because I trust you.
00:04:39.000Now, over the time that I've been broadcasting in these kind of spaces, I've developed an affinity for what might be called populism that previously I might have been sceptical about.
00:04:53.000I have a deep understanding, for example, why people in Ireland are so frustrated and why they may be considering Yeah, voting for Conor McGregor.
00:05:03.000I'm sympathetic to nations like the Netherlands where you're seeing the rise of figures like Geert Wilders, particularly while Dutch farmers are under such incredible pressure and they're exerting, I say they, and by that I mean corporate globalist forces appear to be trying to control agriculture.
00:05:23.000In order that people do not have direct access to their own food.
00:05:29.000But it's very difficult to deny that centralist, globalist forces appear to be trying to regulate and control agriculture, usually under the auspices of helping the climate.
00:05:38.000But it just seems that whenever we're helping the climate, we also penalise ordinary people and people's ability to run their own lives.
00:05:45.000These were just illustrative examples, Neil, to point out how You know once I would have been considered a person that was of the left who would automatically be in opposition to the kind of populist movements that I've already referred to and in some cases listed.
00:06:01.000Have you always been someone that's affiliated with the right or conservatism?
00:06:08.000And how do you feel when you find yourself sort of navigating a new political landscape that seems to be much more about People versus the establishment, periphery versus the center, rather than left and right as we used to understand it.
00:06:25.000I've never been overtly political before.
00:06:41.000I think it was probably ultimately down to a certain kind of laziness, really.
00:06:46.000I think I was letting other people get on with things political.
00:06:49.000And I do reproach myself for having been apathetic or disengaged for as long as I was.
00:06:58.000But that said, I would never have characterised myself as being of the left or of the right or of the centre.
00:07:06.000I didn't really think of myself in those terms.
00:07:10.000I'm very interested, that said, in the way in which populist has become a pejorative term.
00:07:18.000You know, it's bandied about in the same way as, you know, Hillary Clinton's basket of deplorables and whatever, white van man.
00:07:27.000You know, there's a whole slew of terms that are used to make people feel bad, isolated one from another, as if their points of view are somehow crude or crass or base.
00:07:42.000And I find that fascinating, to put it mildly.
00:07:48.000Populist just means, as you know, of the people.
00:07:53.000And the way in which that's been maligned is, well, I think it's unforgivable, actually.
00:08:00.000And like you, I do feel a great deal of sympathy for populations all over the place.
00:08:09.000who in a very short space of time in the scheme of things have been left with no alternative but to accept major change, major demographic and cultural change that they didn't ask for and weren't necessarily ready for.
00:08:28.000You know, weren't bought so much as a gin and tonic and a bunch of filling station chrysanths before Certain couplings were forced upon neighbourhoods.
00:08:38.000And why wouldn't people be alarmed by sudden change?
00:08:43.000People generally are alarmed by sudden, unasked for change.
00:08:48.000And I do get very frustrated at the way in which people are set against one another.
00:08:54.000People have been, you know, whole civilizations all over the world have been deliberately displaced, damaged, carpet bombed, flattened, messed with.
00:09:05.000People have been unseated and unsettled and are on the move as they would be for all sorts of, for as many different reasons as there are people.
00:09:15.000And we are all the time invited to get angry with each other rather than where we should be angry, which is with the people up above us who punch down all the time.
00:09:28.000And then encourage us to punch each other.
00:09:30.000So I find I have a great deal of sympathy for everyone because I think we have been collectively messed with en masse for decades.
00:09:43.000A point in your answer there, you touched on the idea of migration and the cultural and social impact of migration.
00:09:50.000Interestingly, mate, and we've got a lot of topics to cover over the course of our conversation, we'll talk about how the pandemic uniquely shifted cultural values, social attitudes, created an acceptance of regulation that didn't previously
00:10:03.000exist. It was a time of unprecedented international deception, I feel, and international shaming,
00:10:11.000and those two things obviously correlate. But before we get into the pandemic and the
00:10:18.000unique revelations of that recent period, I'd like to sort of touch upon Ireland.
00:10:24.000When we made some content about what happened in Ireland and how the rhetoric that was being used to condemn Irish people protesting about migration in the aftermath of several violent acts involving children and, as reported, Migrants, or members of the migrant population.
00:10:45.000When we put that content up on various sites, YouTube, and of course our home here, Rumble, I was struck by the number of, I noticed Brazilian people that were resident in Ireland, Polish people that were resident in Ireland, saying, migration has gotten out of control in this country.
00:11:04.000There was some brilliant reporting at the time that made it clear that Ireland doesn't have the same kind of trajectory in history as a country like England or the Netherlands or any country that has a colonial past.
00:11:18.000Ireland, of course, is historically oppressed and their ethno-nationalism is a necessary part of their identity as they confronted and opposed external oppressors.
00:11:31.000I felt two things I'd like to point out.
00:11:33.000It's plain that you can have concerns about migration and not be a racist.
00:11:39.000It's plain that people do not feel like, as you said, like they are being consulted about the direction of their nation.
00:11:47.000And it was just something about what happened in Ireland because of the inability to sort of evoke guilt and shame in the same way you might be able to in a country like France or England or the United States, obviously.
00:11:59.000That meant something was revealed to me.
00:12:01.000And what I feel is, is that globalist rhetoric, it's shallow, it's manipulative, and it's dishonest.
00:12:12.000And then when I started to sort of unpick that, I thought about a lot of the rhetoric around Brexit and a lot of the rhetoric around Trump.
00:12:17.000And this is something you referred to in your first conversation as well.
00:12:20.000There's a large appetite to condemn people just for having an opinion.
00:12:25.000And the solution for this can only be democracy, because all of this anti-populist rhetoric is predicated on the idea that there should be authoritative institutions that dictate to people the direction of a country.
00:12:37.000You could call that leadership if you want, but when there's been as much deception as we've experienced lately, when there's so much contempt for the population, when there's so much mistrust for the media that are now essentially part of the establishment, It's difficult not to argue that perhaps people should be able to make decisions for themselves, that they shouldn't have information that's kept from them, that they shouldn't be condemned and judged in the sort of way that we've kind of circled around even in the first 10 minutes of our chat.
00:13:04.000I wonder what you feel about Ireland in particular and how that's relevant when it comes to this issue of globalism versus, I won't just say nationalism because nationalism is a pretty freighted term, but perhaps even localism.
00:13:18.000Well, you're so right about Ireland being a very different case than, say, England, Britain, the Long Island of Britain, you know, a completely different experience and a completely different means of operating in the world historically.
00:13:37.000There is, there's definitely something very pernicious about the way in which everyone is discouraged from daring to hold multiple thoughts in their head at the same time.
00:13:48.000You know, as you said, you can be simultaneously worried about rapid and mass immigration to your neighbourhood without being, while at the same time being a human-loving, life-affirming, welcoming person.
00:14:07.000You can hold those two thoughts simultaneously.
00:14:11.000We're constantly invited only to pick a side.
00:14:15.000Yeah, just take a line, a single line on every issue.
00:14:20.000And if you don't, if you haven't got the time to think up one yourself, here's a laminated card with all of the pre-prepared lines that you that you might just help yourself to take.
00:14:31.000And the people in Ireland who are concerned about the speed at which large arrivals are coming, They're instantly just if they if they raise a voice about that, they're instantly xenophobic.
00:15:11.000It's true of all sorts of there's there's no denying that all over the north of England, you know, communities have been radically altered by the demographically radically altered.
00:15:24.000And people are just discouraged from so much as voicing an opinion about that.
00:15:30.000without being dismissed as some kind of racist xenophobe.
00:15:35.000I feel it's part of a direction of travel.
00:15:39.000It's all about the way in which there's not to be any nuance in discourse.
00:15:43.000There's not to be people having the time to air multiple coexisting points of view without instantly being shouted down for the first thing that you let out of your mouth.
00:15:56.000I think a lot of us liked the Long Island of Britain as a phrase.
00:16:00.000Ian Drummo just said that in the chat.
00:16:04.000I wonder if you're familiar with the writing of Martin Goury, and in particular his famous book, The Revolt of the Public, in which he talks about how the availability of information that the communications age has brought about, particularly in the last 10 years, or he notes in 2001, there was as much information published as in all history up to that point, and it's doubled every year since then.
00:16:26.000That it's such an enormous transformation that it in itself demands a change of all of our systems of governance.
00:16:37.000I suppose it's kind of obvious, isn't it, that whether it's Congress or Parliament or whatever system of government, if it's a democracy in whatever country you're living in, That is in a way based on a kind of pragmatism.
00:16:52.000We send a representative to a central point to convey the perspectives of that community that selected him.
00:17:01.000That in itself, like the horse, was the technology they were using.
00:17:04.000The building was the technology they were using.
00:17:07.000Language was the technology they're using.
00:17:10.000He said, Martin Goury, that now the terms left and right are redundant now, or use establishment versus periphery, has come about because it's a taxonomy-busting technology.
00:17:24.000In the last few days, Neil, we've seen Elon Musk host Spaces on X, where figures that
00:17:31.000are complete pariahs like Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, and talking with a candidate for the
00:17:39.000Republican Party, Vivek Ramaswamy, and the world's richest man, you know, there or thereabouts.
00:17:48.000Those are all figures that sort of, you know, in the New York Times or on MSNBC or CNN,
00:17:54.000perhaps with the exception of Musk, just because of this sheer cargo that he wields, are persona
00:18:03.000That means now that not only do we have two cultures, beyond two cultures, numerous cultures,
00:18:10.000and the teleology is that they're moving, the bifurcation has happened, and they're
00:18:13.000splitting and moving further and further apart.
00:18:16.000If you can have, you know, 2.3 million people watching that, if you have spaces like Rumble
00:18:21.000You know, you can have uncensored speech and then, you know, even places like YouTube have been co-opted and are now ultimately sort of legacy media spaces when it comes down to it.
00:18:32.000Certainly, you know, take the example of the pandemic, the WHO's laws or regulations are applied there in the form of the community guidelines of YouTube.
00:18:41.000What we're experiencing is the inability of centralized authority to control a population, the inability to control information, and their obvious prognosis that that is going to lead to either disintegration or decentralization.
00:19:11.000And I think what we're experiencing is They are trying to use the leverage of crisis to reassert control and people are resisting it and I think my fear is that crises will continue to escalate until they have the means to impose that control.
00:19:28.000Do you think therefore, Neil, that we're at a pivotal moment and do you think that it's a battle that can be won by those of us that are interested in free speech and democracy?
00:19:39.000I believe, you know, Christmas is, we're in the season of Advent, you know, the coming, the imminent arrival of.
00:19:48.000And people, I've heard people more and more than I ever have before using, you know, the word apocalypse seems to be coming into people's conversation quite a lot.
00:19:58.000And apocalypse is a Greek verb that means to take the cover off, to expose.
00:20:05.000And I think that, as you're quoting there, this mass access to information has had unintended consequences.
00:20:16.000I don't know what was the objective, necessarily, or all the objectives, when DARPA put together the fledgling internet back in the 50s and 60s and so on.
00:20:25.000Maybe they genuinely didn't foresee What would be the consequences of so many people having so much, well, hitherto unfettered access to so much stuff and being and being able to draw their own conclusions?
00:20:39.000And I think that collectively what has happened, I think it's happening faster and faster.
00:20:44.000You know, there's a kind of a there's some kind of it's moving quicker and quicker.
00:20:53.000I do wonder at the extent to which we have lived under an illusion for a long time, even an illusion of democracy, and the reality with which we were presented.
00:21:04.000It seems to be falling apart as more and more people are able to access and read more and more otherwise esoteric information.
00:21:17.000You know, the old edifices like left and right and the way in which democracy was portrayed and offered up to us, it's starting to look thinner and thinner, worn out, And I just think there's no doubting that we are at a pivotal point, because whatever you want to call them, the globalists or the cabal, I think are exposed.
00:21:48.000I don't know the extent to which they mean to be seen or whether they are simply being revealed for what they are, but the mask has come away and next year I think is going to be a very interesting year going into obviously the US elections and by the end of the year we won't be far away from our own elections in Britain and all of the rest of it and I am Fascinated by the potential of the globalists having to finally take the mask off and say democracy's gone.
00:22:29.000It almost feels as if they're going to have to fish or cut bait.
00:22:33.000I tell you what, sorry to interrupt you, forgive me, but it feels like that is what's happening, because have you noticed how much in American media in particular they are talking about dictatorships and tyrants?
00:22:50.000We made a joke the other day, it's almost like Shark Week in the United States, but it's Dictator Month.
00:22:54.000Because they're continually saying, if Trump wins in 2024, he will turn America into a dictatorship.
00:23:03.000And like you say, I feel that authoritarianism has a different hue than we'd ever anticipated.
00:23:10.000It's not a progression of the militaristic despotism of the last century.
00:23:16.000It's, of course, technological dictatorships in the form that is the vision of Bill Gates that we should be fearful of.
00:23:23.000Not the visions of the military leaders of Europe and Russia in the last century.
00:23:32.000And I think you're right that 2024 is going to be significant.
00:23:35.000Guys, if you're watching us on YouTube, we are going to exclusively broadcast now on Rumble.
00:23:41.000We're going to exclusively stream on Rumble.
00:23:44.000You'll have to click the link in the description to join me and Neil over there because I'm about to ask him about dictatorship.
00:23:50.000Is it Trump that's a dictator or is it the current American administration that is trying to create a dictatorship?
00:23:56.000A dictatorship on behalf of globalism?
00:23:58.000I'm also going to be asking Neil about what was revealed to us during the coronavirus period.
00:24:03.000We'll be talking specifically about the AstraZeneca jab being labelled defective, Pfizer being sued by Texas, the lack of authority in the Covid inquiry and new information that that the US government paid the media to promote vaccines.
00:24:19.000All of this, Neil, just because you said then that access to hitherto esoteric information
00:24:24.000means that you can't hold together one consensual public sphere. The public sphere keeps
00:24:42.000You know, I'm I'm open about the fact that, you know, I was I was in a state of slumber for who knows how long before I properly started paying attention to all the things I'm paying attention to.
00:24:52.000But increasingly, it feels that we're being discouraged from being seen in the same space as certain people.
00:25:01.000Which is something that, it feels like something from another, it's medieval, you know, it's where people were, you know, beyond the pale, people were cast out into outer darkness, into perdition.
00:25:11.000Do not be seen, or in the communist era, you know, where people, if you were seen in the same room as someone, it was as though you picked up their contagion of inappropriateness, whether you were interacting with them directly or not.
00:25:23.000And for me, I've always anyway wanted at times, The company of and to talk to people with what might be described as outlandish ideas.
00:25:37.000You describe that that X space, that Twitter space with what a disparate, unlikely fellowship that was.
00:25:54.000All these people, some of whom would, a lot of people would think, oh God, I can't be seen in a photograph with that person because that might, that might affect my career prospects.
00:26:01.000Or, you know, it might see me being, you know, debanked or whatever, whatever.
00:26:06.000That, and that, that inducement to stay away from people has the reverse effect on me.
00:26:14.000And if I'm being told by the state and the establishment not to be seen with that person, not to talk to that person, that only makes me 10 times more desperate to fight.
00:26:27.000What is it that you think is going to happen to me if I talk to them, if I listen to them, if I breathe the same air as them?
00:26:33.000And I think that is part of what you're talking about that's going to fall apart.
00:26:40.000It didn't hold together for very long, that idea that some people could be exiled, cast into perdition.
00:26:47.000I think like me, people are thinking, well, if I'm not supposed to talk to him or her, I'm jolly well going to, because clearly the state thinks I might learn something that they would rather I didn't know.
00:26:58.000Or that's the way it affects my psyche.
00:27:02.000So many, I think so many things are becoming harder and harder to hold together.
00:27:05.000And I think that's what's so difficult for so many people, because we are, we are having to re-evaluate everything, re-evaluate everything.
00:27:15.000An old picture has just ceased to serve us anymore.
00:27:21.000It's worn through, you know, a bright light's been shone on.
00:27:25.000It's like one of those old masters where it turns out that there's another painting behind it because the artist reused the same canvas.
00:27:31.000It's as if too many people can see that there's something else there that might even be much more interesting.
00:27:38.000And that, I think, in the year ahead and certainly in the short to medium term future, I think the authoritarians or the would-be authoritarians have no other option than to try and censure and silence and label as misinformation and keep people away from information that they don't want them to read, because the knowledge, the resources, The different points of view, the alternative perspectives that people can readily and easily access and share means that that whole edifice just starts to fall away like confetti to reveal something else behind it.
00:28:18.000Yes, even if you take a contemporary and contentious example like Andrew Tate, you have to genuinely believe that the moral outrage generated by the establishment is, as they say, motivated by his alleged misogyny and indeed the crimes that he is alleged to have committed.
00:28:45.000Where that begins to break down is in my near certainty that there is no moral authority in the establishment anymore.
00:28:56.000Indeed, the example of Trump's rise being amplified indictment by indictment is a further indication that even if you put aside your own moral judgment of the whatever figures in question, me, Tate, Trump, Tucker, Rogan, you, whoever they eventually determine they don't like today, you have to say, up until now, what is it about their modality that has led you to believe that they care about feminism, that they care about public health, even without tying it to a condemned or exiled individual?
00:29:36.000At the advent of the coronavirus pandemic.
00:29:38.000It was my own, um, now deeply inculcated cynicism, scepticism and fear of the establishment that guided me, put into a simple, uh, understanding or, um, sort of, what do I want to say, framing like this.
00:29:56.000If this is all about the sanctity of life, like we've got to be locked down in our homes, take these medications, social distance, because of the sanctity of life, Is this idea that life is sacred playing out generally across our culture?
00:30:14.000Let's look at it in terms of economics and finance and social regulation and poverty and our moral standards.
00:30:24.000If life is sacred, what would be one's attitude to vagrancy?
00:30:31.000What would be one's attitude to a whole host of subjects?
00:30:34.000So, like you said, you get a kind of intuitive and visceral sense of a kind of glitch that you're being given one set of data and another set of data is deeply felt.
00:30:47.000Hang on, these people don't care about me.
00:31:26.000Are any of these figures virulently anti-establishment in some way?
00:31:30.000Now, like, you know, people who watch our channel a lot, No, I enjoy Donald Trump's rhetoric and I enjoy his anti-establishment positions, but I don't think that without significant systemic change and decentralization and I would say the dissolution of several significant deep state agencies that America can meaningfully change.
00:31:51.000But I recognize now that these operations care about control, not about the sanctity of life.
00:31:58.000I'm sorry that I saw you wanted to come in Neil, I'm sorry I kept talking.
00:32:01.000No, it's... I don't believe that there's any... The people that have the temerity to pontificate and to lecture to us about, you know, the sanctity of life, they are in no moral position so to do.
00:32:16.000As you pointed out there, it's hollow.
00:32:20.000The people that we are having to listen to are sock puppet hollow.
00:32:26.000They don't emanate any credible, any believable belief in anything.
00:32:33.000You know, they just have all of the appearance and all of the sound of people who are just working from today's, from the contents of today's inbox, from whatever script they're working to.
00:32:45.000None of it's coming from a place of belief.
00:32:48.000And, of course, what happened during the course of the pandemic?
00:32:53.000It's now apparent that there was plenty of advice to the authority figures who laid down the diktats that locking people in their homes was going to be catastrophic.
00:33:03.000I mean, like, you needed the wisdom of Solomon to see that anyway.
00:33:06.000But there was plenty of strident advice being given behind the scenes saying, don't do this.
00:33:19.000Because all of the constant, well, and so it came to pass.
00:33:24.000That the consequences have been desperate.
00:33:26.000Likewise, there was plenty of information out there in advance that they knew that whatever, that the injectables hadn't been tested to see if they would stop transmission person to person.
00:33:36.000There was plenty of suggestion that there were going to be adverse side effects and all of the rest of it.
00:33:41.000And the things were rolled out anyway.
00:33:43.000So with three years worth of hindsight or two years worth of hindsight, it's plain that there was no real heartfelt concern for people.
00:33:50.000And I mean, I feel so, so desperate at the moment about what's happening in Israel, Palestine, Gaza.
00:34:00.000The fact that whatever horror unfolded on the 7th of October, it then means that other babies have to die, not just by the hundreds, but by the thousands.
00:34:41.000If that is what it means, the deaths of thousands, and that we're coming into the time of Christmas, where we're very focused on our kids and our family.
00:34:52.000And we're supposed to, you know, the dissonance of that, that we celebrate our own children and our own families while simultaneously knowing what's happening to thousands upon thousands of people in Gaza.
00:35:04.000I find it makes it makes me feel physically ill.
00:35:09.000The thought of it and that there is an there's an anti-human agenda.
00:35:14.000Elon Musk in that space that you talked about, you know, he talked about how he wants to see more people born, you know, that he is pro procreation, that he thinks that the populations of the world are in steep decline and that depopulation, not overpopulation, is going to be the existential crisis that we'll face in the decades and centuries ahead if we don't get out of this tailspin.
00:35:37.000And I don't feel that the authority figures have any love of life, that they have any love of our species at all, such that I think that so much of what is being done and will be done in the future will come from that place of thinking, people aren't worth it anyway.
00:35:57.000We have voided God from the heart of our systems.
00:36:01.000I think that we coasted on materialism and rationalism undergirded by clear progress in areas such as technology and medicine.
00:36:11.000We forgot perhaps that we had neglected and allowed to atrophy that aspect of the spirit that makes all other progress notable, valuable and worthwhile anyway.
00:36:24.000What you said before about October the 7th and subsequent action is, I suppose, what it would sound like if you had Irrefutable principles and values at the core of your system.
00:36:41.000Now of course I think we know what the arguments are that are continually made by people advocating for Israel's right to defend herself and those kind of arguments I'm sure have a great deal of validity if you're personally affected or ideologically or religiously affected.
00:37:00.000And I've tried throughout this to maintain a position where I can continue to be useful and I try to simultaneously hold in my mind the people that have been affected from a variety of perspectives when it comes to that issue and I try my best with all issues but what is...
00:37:17.000Irrefutable is that if we don't have anywhere in our institutions the kind of simple principles like actually the sanctity of human life, like the reason that we have to preserve our society is because we are, for us, the killing of children is unconscionable.
00:37:36.000If that, I suppose, if we don't have that within the values that we're purporting to protect or espouse then In a sense, all that's left, and I think we've touched on this before, is a kind of escalating tribalism and, you know, let the devil take the hindmost, because there is no... And so the reason that I try on this channel to continually talk about, you know, like, to talk about the presence of God, like, there is a highest principle.
00:38:04.000There are values that are transcendent.
00:38:06.000There are things that are worth sacrificing our life for.
00:38:09.000There are things that are worth sacrificing revenge for.
00:38:12.000And it can't be enough to say that, well, if you found yourself in this position, then you would.
00:38:17.000You know, if there was an intruder in your home, if you were similarly aggrieved, I sense that for our culture, and in far less incendiary issues than the conflict in the Middle East, we're being invited to pursue our lowest values.
00:38:31.000We're being invited to engage with our lower selves.
00:38:35.000As an addict in recovery, I cannot help but note how often the media and professions connected to commerce, marketing, advertising, continue to solicit Fear, desire, objectification of the body, or many sacred aspects of life, humor, sexuality, continually are objectified and mobilized in order to, in a sense, desacralize us and promote our animal nature.
00:39:06.000Both fear and desire, I would say, being almost atavistic aspects of our our pre-civilized or pre-evolved or pre-awakened nature.
00:39:24.000We've had whatever it is, 300, 400 years of science, and like a new shiny bobble, our species has been transfixed by science.
00:39:34.000All it can do, and I'm not denigrating that or running it down for a moment, it's astonishing what science and then technology have delivered unto us in the recent centuries.
00:39:44.000But it has also provided an incomplete picture, you know, the thirst that from the soul doth rise, doth ask a drink divine and all that.
00:39:54.000There are other questions which science cannot and does not address itself to, and therefore there are answers that science will not give us.
00:40:04.000And with the dark side of great works like Darwin's Origin of Species was that once and for all, the people of the West were invited to think that, well, we're nothing special.
00:40:18.000We're not, you know, we're not the work of a creator god.
00:40:22.000We're part of a mindless process of evolution and we've just kind of happened because some of our ancestors had characteristics that gave them an advantage in an ecological niche and so on and so on.
00:40:37.000And the dark travelling companion of that undermining of that kind of sanctifying of the human species was eugenics and all that that led to, you know, if humans are nothing but other animals, the accidents of evolution, the accidents of a process, then might we not experiment on them the same way we experiment on any other animals?
00:40:59.000So science Takes as well as gives, unless and until people are simultaneously invited to eat from another menu at the same time, you know, to draw upon other flavours.
00:41:16.000Which are different and separate from what science and technology delivers, but we still need them.
00:41:21.000You know, man cannot live by bread alone, as it says in Deuteronomy.
00:41:57.000At least three quarters of the people writing to me have declared themselves as being people of faith, that it was the faith that enabled them to, say, resist the vaccine products, enabled them to stand up to employers that were threatening them with this, that and the other.
00:43:59.000other content and okay yes and having those conversations I had muted almost and asked for it and we will function far more happily if that other aspect of our natural thinking, if room is made for it once more.
00:44:25.000Neil, it's so beautiful talking to you, and I could talk to you for hours that we're threatening them with this, that and the other.
00:44:34.000They talk about the battle between light and dark, good and evil.
00:44:38.000And the sheer weight of it, the deluge of that kind of thinking from so many people from all over the world has meant that I have kind of renewed my comfort in having those conversations.
00:44:52.000I had muted almost a conversation that I instinctively wanted to have.
00:44:59.000And to be a part of, and I know that you talk on here about spirituality in all its many forms, everything that that means, and I feel the need of that.
00:45:11.000And I think if you don't have that, if that component of life is not welcomed into the daily consciousness, then we are the less.
00:45:22.000We are made the less for it, and we will function far more happily if that other aspect of our natural thinking is, if room is made for it once more.
00:45:37.000Neil, it's so beautiful talking to you, and I could talk to you for another couple of hours if I wanted to make people on my team have a mental breakdown, because we've got to go and record some other content immediately.
00:45:47.000Loads of you joining us on lockdown, I'm sorry I didn't get to pass on your questions, I really am, but I'm just, There's so many good ones from Judy Denmark, Kay Cotswold, Seakeasy, Jobstog, Viv & Carlo, Sunpatch, Patriots.
00:45:59.000So many good questions, but our day got a little bit out of control.
00:46:03.000Neil, I do stay on because I've got something to ask you, but that was beautiful as always.
00:46:08.000Thank you so much for bringing both poetry, reflection, gentleness, kindness to the political to a political conversation that sometimes can feel
00:46:18.000extremely bombastic and I think that from bombast we won't get resolution, we won't get progress, we won't
00:46:25.000get the kind of synthesis that's required for us to move forward.
00:46:29.000Thank you for being a gentle contributor to a complex debate, Neil, and thank you for coming on Stay Free today.
00:47:51.000We know now that authoritarianism is on the rise.
00:47:53.000It's not in the form of militant dictatorships, but technological dictatorships, always seemingly in order to advance your safety and your convenience.
00:48:01.000As in today's story, the federal government paid media organizations to promote vaccines during the pandemic.
00:48:08.000During the time where people that were hesitant, suspicious about new, untrialled medications were shamed and told that they shouldn't be allowed admission into hospitals amidst the plethora, almost to numerous, to count of untruths around whether or not they prevented transmissions or even were trialled, where it came from, whether or not certain information was repressed or suppressed, whether young people needed to take it, how effective booster shots were, whether or not deaths were being recorded properly, whether or not adverse injuries, all of that stuff.
00:48:35.000Additionally, your government, that means your money, because remember, your government's money is your money.
00:48:40.000They don't have any independent money and when they get it, they invest it pretty quickly in the stock market, let me tell you.
00:48:57.000Perhaps because it shows that the government and the legacy media are cooperating to bring about conditions where ordinary people have limited access to information and are exposed to information that is subsequently proven to not be true.
00:49:40.000Unlike this vaccine that we're paying for, you're paying for, and this advert that we're paying for, you're paying for, it never wears off.
00:49:55.000And they're not involved in the funding.
00:49:56.000But they can restore their protection with an updated vaccine because getting COVID again means risking long COVID or even hospitalisation.
00:50:26.000Let's look at the details now and see if it can help us adapt our worldview, awaken, and oppose the kind of corruption that seems all too present continually.
00:50:35.000Mainstream media's nearly monolithic coverage of mRNA vaccines and other COVID measures can be at least partially explained by a clear financial interest.
00:50:43.000Yes, Recently, a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the conservative media company, The Blaze, found a number of major media outlets were paid to promote the Covid vaccine.
00:50:55.000Such venues included, and get ready for a list of the usual suspects, The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, NBC, CNN, Fox News and several others.
00:51:07.000The Blaze's report received little coverage, even in conservative media, perhaps because some of those outlets were also paid by HHS, the Department of Health and Human Services, ideologically predisposed to criticize government-fueled narratives on the pandemic.
00:51:21.000As the Blaze reports, hundreds of news organizations were paid by the federal government to advertise for the vaccine as part of a comprehensive media campaign.
00:51:32.000It seems corrupt and incomprehensible.
00:51:35.000According to the documents the blaze obtained from the Department of Health and Human Services, they have to use Freedom of Information Act rights and legislation to get it.
00:51:43.000This information is not freely available.
00:51:49.000Can't we tell you in 75 years when you're all dead?
00:51:51.000The Biden administration purchased ads on TV, radio, in print and on social media to build vaccine confidence, timing this effort with the increasing availability of the vaccines.
00:52:02.000Vaccine confidence should be related to vaccine efficacy and transparency.
00:52:06.000Wouldn't you agree that your confidence in any government project ought to be based on transparency, authenticity, integrity?
00:52:13.000Or do you just want to be told stuff, denied access to all of the information, and shamed if you don't participate?
00:52:19.000The latter would be more effective and work more quickly.
00:52:39.000The US Department of Health and Human Services COVID-19 public education campaign states they employed both paid advertising and media interviews, presentations, radio, TV tours and other public events to educate people about the importance of vaccination.
00:52:55.000I'm just going to educate you about the importance of vaccinations.
00:52:58.000And now we're going to educate you about the importance of prison.
00:53:02.000Here is the legacy media literally presenting information as if it was news when in fact it was propaganda.
00:53:08.000If by propaganda you You mean information that was paid for by the state and was not revealed to be state-sponsored information in order to exert mind control?
00:53:41.000We've got to deal with the actual dead.
00:53:43.000Some of whom died very suddenly for some reason.
00:53:45.000The HHS website contains public access to all vaccine campaign advertisements for media outlets and beyond.
00:53:51.000One past advertisement promotes COVID vaccination in children featuring a montage of selected medical doctors stating in unison, we can all agree on this.
00:53:59.000You can trust the COVID vaccine for yourself or your kids or your grandkids.
00:54:05.000Yeah, We're gonna need a rewrite on that because, well, it's not necessary for kids, the grandparents might not be in a position to say this, and the heart is in particular jeopardy.
00:54:18.000In another ad directed to parents, That's what we want you to know.
00:54:21.000Well, God, jeez, let me know in the chat.
00:54:23.000What would you rather have at this point?
00:54:24.000vaccines are safe and effective. That's what we want you to know. My grandkids are vaccinated.
00:54:29.000What's not safe is getting COVID. Well, God, geez, let me know in the chat. What would
00:54:33.000you rather have at this point, COVID or a vaccination?
00:54:37.000Is it ethical for the government to dubiously claim COVID vaccines are uniformly beneficial for kids and contracting COVID is far less safe than getting your child double vaccinated?
00:54:46.000No such randomised clinical evidence exists suggesting the benefits of the COVID vaccine outweigh the harms in young cohorts with a nearly zero risk of serious outcomes.
00:54:56.000Moreover, is it ethical for either party for the federal government to advertise such medical misinformation on platforms allegedly committed to investigating the truth and holding the powerful accountable?
00:55:07.000Particularly not during that misinformation, malinformation, tirade, that time of censorship of true information, the closing down of debate.
00:55:14.000This is astonishing that this is happening.
00:55:17.000A new government ad on the HHS website now promotes the updated COVID vaccine.
00:55:22.000It falsely claims the new booster shot prevents long COVID and hospitalisation when the only available evidence from Pfizer and Moderna are rat studies and a 50-person trial with an unexplained 2% rate of serious adverse events.
00:56:06.000Rather than critically covering such propagandistic attempts to promote a longitudinally ineffective therapeutic with a 1 in 800 serious adverse event rate, major media outlets allowed the federal government to freely spread its misinformation on their platform.
00:56:19.000We can't continue to bring you this revelatory content without your consciousness and your continuing awakening.
00:57:13.000Come on, let's get back into this content.
00:57:14.000The New York Times reporting on vaccine induced myocarditis, for example, downplayed the side effects at every site and compared it to misleadingly higher rates of covid induced myocarditis.
00:57:24.000A study finds that myocarditis is more common after covid than vaccination.
00:57:29.000Second vaccine doses raise the risk of myocarditis in young men, but the condition remains very rare.
00:57:35.000Researchers find a higher than expected risk of myocarditis in young men after full vaccination.
00:57:40.000Do you remember that period where we felt like, are they saying that COVID causes side effects that are caused by the vaccine?
00:57:46.000Do you remember that bit of the pandemic cycle?
00:57:48.000For over two years, the media and government officials have been peddling dangerous misinformation.
00:57:53.000For very sin, they accuse the conspiracy web of committing about COVID-19 posing a higher risk to young people than the vaccine.
00:58:00.000Instead of examining age, gender and health stratified risk benefit ratios, they elementarily look at aggregate data and cherry pick seemingly beneficial outcomes to justify their everyone should get vaccinated campaign.
00:58:27.000Pediatric cardiologists explain myocarditis and why your teen should still get a COVID-19 vaccine.
00:58:33.000Every time I think we've reached a new depth of reporting and propaganda and misinformation in this issue, some more information comes out and I sincerely believe that's why independent media is being censored because they can't keep up with the rate of revelation anymore.
00:58:53.000Even though we all have this collective amnesia, which is probably a side effect, and aren't willing to really countenance what's happened in the last three years because it's sort of almost too terrible to take on board.
00:59:03.000One of the most discrediting media assault campaigns grew in opposition to Joe Rogan's claim in a June 2021 podcast that healthy 21 year olds didn't need the vaccine.
00:59:12.000Over two years later, Rogan's judgment has been vindicated, as it was at the time, given the 0.003% mortality risk among 20-year-olds and unusually high rates of myocardial and menstrual-related vaccine adverse events.
00:59:27.000However, the mainstream media ecosystem conducted a fierce reputational decapitation in response to Rogan's impermissible dissent from the CDC and Pfizer edicts.
00:59:37.000Let's for a moment just hold in our minds the reality that the government paid the legacy media to report favourable information, they suppressed information that was true but not favourable, and they smeared and attacked dissenters for telling the truth.
00:59:53.000Let me know in the chat and the comments.
00:59:54.000Let me know if you think that it's possible that even I have been subject to these kind of attacks because of the reporting that we have done on this channel, because we have connected to an independent audience, because we have participated in helping to construct a narrative that's given people the ability to at least choose whether or not they want to be obedient and compliant or a little more circumspect when it comes to their own bodily autonomy.
01:00:17.000Think too about Novak Djokovic, how he was continually vilified and attacked and harangued.
01:00:22.000The people said that it was about public opinion.
01:00:23.000It's not public opinion, it's media opinion.
01:00:26.000And we now know that the media is paid for by Pfizer, is paid for by the government, and it's about controlling the public sphere.
01:01:09.000Even if what we're talking about, even if what it should have been is, look, we think these medications might be useful for this part of the population, you should probably be careful if you're part of this.
01:01:16.000It's extraordinary what's taken place.
01:01:35.000We're now just going to get on with the business of holding muted inquiries and having little lawsuits here and there that will prevent the true story getting out.
01:01:43.000Meanwhile, a whole raft of censorship laws and smear campaigns have been launched against dissenters across the world.
01:01:59.000Do you remember there was that petition, apparently from 300 doctors, and then they looked into that and those people weren't even doctors.
01:02:12.000Today, Dr. Fauci says Joe Rogan is incorrect to tell young people not to get vaccinated.
01:02:16.000I think Fauci was incorrect to go round to various government agencies disparaging the lab leak theory when it increasingly seems like that's exactly how this whole process began and they indeed participated in the funding of that very lab.
01:02:36.000But believe me, that mentality has not gone away.
01:02:38.000If you are a dissenting voice, you will be attacked.
01:02:41.000If you're an individual communicating online, you'll likely be censored.
01:02:44.000Let us know in the chat if you've had your free speech impaired.
01:02:46.000And if you're a public figure, the attacks could be unprecedented, immersive, coordinated, and terrifying.
01:02:52.000The United States wasn't alone in spending large sums of taxpayer dollars to promote its agenda.
01:02:57.000The Trudeau government invested over $600,000 in hiring social media influencers to advance federal directives, including the push for Canadians to get vaccinated and boosted.
01:03:06.000Fed spent more than $600,000 hiring influencers in 2021.
01:03:09.000As CTV reports, Health Canada spent the most on hiring influencers to promote government information.
01:03:16.000$130,600 was spent towards an influencer campaign in support of the COVID-19 vaccination marketing and advertising campaign.
01:03:22.000None of this is to mention Pfizer's vaccine campaigns, paying celebrities to rhapsodise about marvelously safe and effective mRNA inoculation.
01:03:30.000Travis Kelsey, a professional football player watched and revered by many young American men in particular, promoted getting the updated booster shot and flu vaccine in the same visit.
01:03:55.000The last standing bulwark against government propaganda and censorship is crumbling before our eyes, losing relevance
01:04:02.000Perhaps a solution for media institutions to earn back credibility is to critically cover federal agencies misinforming the public rather than take funds to promote their agendas.
01:04:39.000They'll use any technique they can to attack and destroy.
01:04:42.000This is a time that is, as this article says, unprecedented.
01:04:46.000It used to be the function of the media to hold the powerful to account.
01:04:50.000Now they work in absolute integration with one another.
01:04:53.000With new legislation being passed around the world to censor true information, to shut down hate speech, To grant the police in Ireland the ability to invade your home.
01:05:02.000To shut down speech in the UK, Canada, coming soon to the USA, across the EU.
01:05:07.000It is vital that a resistance movement form.
01:05:11.000That we individually and collectively find ways to overcome our cynicism and scepticism about culturally different groups and bind together against centralised authority.
01:05:28.000Are they always promoting regulation that grants them the ability to shut down your freedom while never really affecting the ability of the globalist corporatist establishment to maraud around the planet and profiteering under the auspices of safety and security usually veiled by the edicts of The WHO?
01:05:46.000Look at their treaty coming soon that will mean that their laws will apply in your nation.
01:05:52.000I think it is an important time in world history and I think every single one of us needs to be actively engaged in opposing these measures wherever we can.
01:06:00.000Let me know what you think in the chat.
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