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00:01:22.000You will appreciate and understand that it is obviously what's finally been revealed is myocarditis, pericarditis, brain syndromes and even my favorite bit of this is there's a moment it says there's one particular disease it causes that may make it difficult for you to think and walk.
00:01:52.000Primarily we're talking about individual freedom and we're talking about democracy and we're talking about institutional power and in particular lately I've been reflecting on a sort of a new and emergent Catholic style set of bureaucracies that are able, through the
00:02:04.000appearance of banality and the claim that they are protecting our individual freedom
00:02:09.000and preserving our safety, able to implement measures that would previously
00:02:13.000have been regarded as straight-up tyranny. And I suppose the area where both of
00:02:19.000you have a degree of shared expertise and understanding is this emergent WHO
00:02:23.000treaty, which I understand is just one piece of legislature that could be
00:02:26.000used to inhibit, control and limit national sovereignty and our
00:02:32.000Meryl, I wonder if you might start by explaining what this twin threat is?
00:02:38.000Yes, well, the WHO is made up of a bureaucracy and member states, and the member states send diplomats to the WHO, and this group has created two different documents, both of which are intended to be approved this May.
00:02:57.000And they will transfer considerable sovereignty over from the nation states to the WHO, to its Director General and its bureaucracy.
00:03:18.000There has been no after-action look at what actually happened last time.
00:03:23.000The WHO really can't make any claims that it did anything right, and yet it wants to have greater control.
00:03:30.000It wants to be able to transmute itself from an agency that gives advice to one that actually governs the health of the whole world.
00:03:38.000Why is it and how is it that this issue has become regarded as the forum for lunacy and conspiracy theory when it seems that what you're discussing is government overreach or bureaucratic overreach, a lack of democracy.
00:03:55.000And I've even seen recently at the WF, irony of ironies, the head of the WHO claiming that The opposition to the WHO pandemic treaty is in itself a conspiracy theory.
00:04:09.000I don't even understand how claiming 5% of each nation's health budget, the ability to impose control and legislation, mandate vaccines, am I right?
00:04:20.000That is what the treaty includes, isn't it?
00:04:24.000It's worse than that because it's not only for human pathogens it can be for an animal pathogen or an environmental threat something to do with climate change or the threat of any of those risks and they've also in the new documents they reduce the reporting time mandating that every country would have to report any possible risk within 72 hours of discovering it to the WHO and that could lead to a lot of false alarms and A lot of powers to the W.H.O.
00:04:56.000These two instruments would give the Director General of the W.H.O.
00:05:01.000the ability to call something called a Public Health Emergency of International Concern for any of those reasons I gave earlier.
00:05:07.000he would immediately seize basically total control under the one health
00:05:11.000policy where everything's affected by health and I mean is the environment
00:05:14.000food business and it's also over non-governmental stakeholders so that's
00:05:20.000private businesses they could shut down any business in the country for any
00:05:24.000reason at the whim of the WHO Director General and not only does he decide when
00:05:29.000he calls this emergency and takes these enormous powers and bear in mind if you
00:05:34.000look at how they handled COVID-19 that was three years under the emergency
00:05:38.000before they said the emergency was over and then they carried on with the
00:05:41.000monkeypox emergency so we still would have been under an emergency control
00:05:46.000He also decides when the emergency is over and I think having taken those sort of powers from our elected representatives in our parliaments our democracies it'll be a long time before we got them back if ever.
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00:08:16.000It's very strange that these types of bills and measures appear to be increasingly imposed using vague and diffuse language that's deliberately, it seems to me, opaque and difficult to determine and define.
00:08:31.000The UK online safety bill similarly seems to be open to exploitation and easily utilised by a censoring government.
00:08:40.000The same for the legislation passed in Ireland, or that's proposed to be passed in Ireland, the Hate Speech Act.
00:08:50.000It seems that whether it's speech Individual liberty, our ability to travel, there seems to be an increase in authoritarianism continually undergirded by safety.
00:09:04.000You're of course a physician Meryl, why in particular are medical emergencies and pandemics being used to assert control?
00:09:13.000Tell us a little bit about how you've gone from, and I understand that you've lost your license, to practice as a physician.
00:09:19.000I'd love to know the legitimacy of that measure.
00:09:22.000Because I'm always aware, I don't know about you guys, because you're English you'll be aware of what my public profile is, the degree to which I am publicly attacked, and how in some quarters ridiculed and derided.
00:09:36.000And I imagine that within your profession to lose your license must be the cause of great consternation and possibly even shame.
00:09:45.000So can you tell me how medicine is being weaponized, how the profession of professional care and medicine is being weaponized, and what we saw in particular take place in the pandemic and how it has changed over this period since you've lost your license?
00:10:07.000Okay, so I think that elites, globalists, really wanted to gain much greater power over the world and the world's resources as well as the world's people.
00:11:02.000You take away some careers, and you show them if they don't behave themselves, if they don't go along with the narrative, This can happen to you as well.
00:11:09.000So I had a completely clean record for over 40 years.
00:11:14.000I testified many times to the US Congress, to states, written papers, given talks.
00:11:20.000I'm in Who's Who in America, Who's Who in the world.
00:11:23.000You know, I thought I was, you know, untouchable.
00:11:27.000But I treated people for COVID with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, which is perfectly legal, but the state and federal government wanted people to think it wasn't.
00:11:36.000And I told the truth about vaccines because I happen to be a vaccine and bioterrorism expert.
00:11:40.000And so the board immediately suspended my license without any hearing, without hearing me say one word on the basis that I had done these perfectly legal things.
00:11:51.000And they thought they could fool me and fool the other doctors into thinking I'd committed a crime, but I knew I hadn't, because I'd had some legal experience already.
00:11:59.000And so then I demanded a hearing, and they had to find new charges against me, because those couldn't stick.
00:12:10.000So then they made up some new charges, which I hadn't done, and got a board of six members to convict me of those things, and so my license remained suspended.
00:12:21.000Now, before we answer the next question, I want to say to those of you on YouTube, please consider clicking the link in the description and joining us on Rumble.
00:12:27.000And indeed, becoming an Awakened Wonder, we do additional content every week.
00:12:31.000Like this week, I'm talking about Amy Winehouse and the new film about her, and the sort of sacrifice of Celebrities in particular, female celebrities at the altar of our crazed culture.
00:12:42.000Diana, Marilyn Monroe, Amy Winehouse, fated and ultimately annihilated by a devouring, unconscious, and you would say, perhaps some of you, demonic culture.
00:12:52.000The rest of the conversation with Andrew and Meryl is fantastic.
00:12:55.000You're going to want to join us for that.
00:13:05.000To target enmities ideological, enemies ideological primarily, and to impose these kind of measures on them.
00:13:13.000When you were describing the lack of accountability within the WHO, the lack of oversight, the inability to regulate the diplomatic immunity of many of its members, it's pretty astonishing.
00:13:23.000I understand that a significant amount of the WHO's funding comes from the taxes of Yes.
00:13:28.000member states but also there are significant private donations. What is
00:13:33.000the proportion of private donation they receive and doesn't this lack of oversight coupled with the manner in
00:13:39.000which they receive their much of their funding leave the WHO open to
00:14:07.000So if Germany gives extra money, it may be to buy a German product, maybe a German vaccine, you see.
00:14:14.000And if the UK gives money, it's to do something the UK wants.
00:14:19.00075% of the entire WHO budget is earmarked.
00:14:23.000Some years, the year that President Trump tried to take the US out of the WHO and stop funding it for one year, Bill Gates was a number one top funder of the WHO and provided them about 11% of their budget.
00:14:37.000There are several agencies that, or organizations that Bill Gates founded, GAVI, CEPI, as well as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, all of which contribute to the WHO.
00:14:49.000And then there are many other secondary organizations that Bill Gates, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation contribute to, and then they secondarily contribute to the WHO.
00:15:00.000It sounds like quite a transactional organisation that's open to exploitation.
00:15:03.000And whilst I think all of us no longer fear the tag of conspiracy theorists regarding it somewhat as a badge of honour, it's certainly a slur that we are aware of.
00:15:13.000But what you have recounted, a simple Fiduciary and financial details that are easy to verify and track.
00:15:22.000With this new WHO treaty there are concomitantly across the world numerous petitions where people suffocating from lack of democracy reach out in an attempt to prevent these measures being passed.
00:15:36.000The one in the UK has nearly reached its requisite 100,000 signatures which will mean that there's a possibility That it will be debated in Parliament.
00:15:47.000I'll warrant a scenario with which you are well familiar.
00:15:51.000Why is it so hard for us to be able to reject what appear to be bureaucratic, globalist, administrative bodies that don't seem to exist on the basis of any democratic legitimacy?
00:16:03.000We will have to have a vote of both Houses of Parliament on the new treaty.
00:16:07.000Well, it's called the Pandemic Treaty, the Pandemic Accord, and now it's apparently called the Pandemic Agreement, which no one's agreed to yet.
00:16:15.000But the amendments to the international health regulations, the second horse they're running in this race, and they don't mind which one wins.
00:16:22.000If one of them gets over the line, they've got their powers.
00:16:25.000That's being treated as the amendment to an existing treaty and we're not debating it and we're not going to vote on it in either house and the clauses to do with human rights are all removed from the international health regulations under this new amendment and it's just replaced with a bland statement saying that the WHO will treat everyone with equity.
00:16:46.000Well if it's treating everyone badly that's still equity isn't it?
00:16:49.000And they don't mind which horse gets over the line It's very very clever how they're doing it.
00:16:54.000So it seems that it's been set up in order to succeed regardless of what objections it might face and indeed it is facing a lot of objections.
00:17:04.000I think one of the things that's changed in recent years is that people have become attuned to different types of political manoeuvres that are way beyond the partisan politics that we're invited to see as defining our life.
00:17:16.000The politics of right and left are gone, Russell.
00:17:20.000It's now the politics of right and wrong.
00:18:41.000Like, if it is true, how are you, as a person that's schooled in old-school representative democracies, adjusting to these emergent dynamics?
00:18:50.000Well, you go through a period of mourning when you realise what's really going on, and you have to get over that, and as someone who has conservative values, one of the principles of conservatives that I've always valued is, we have to live in the world how it is, not how we'd like it to be, and this is how the world is.
00:19:08.000When you look at the strange decisions that our Parliament and Government have made, the same strange decisions have been made in Parliaments around the world at the same time in lockstep, and that's around the Covid pandemic response, but also the sexualisation, inappropriate sexualisation of our children in schools.
00:19:28.000It's happening in Australia at the same time as it's happening here.
00:19:33.000Yes, and these censorship laws that are being passed simultaneously and indeed organisations like the WHO.
00:19:38.000Now one of the things that surely you are both united by is your concern around adverse events and vaccine injuries and the great phantom that stalks us all, excess deaths.
00:19:52.000Why is there, other than in Slovakia, is there any likelihood that we're going to see a serious investigation into excess deaths?
00:20:00.000And what's the most reliable data you've seen that excess deaths is something we have to take very, very seriously?
00:20:10.000Well, I tried 26 times last year to get a debate on excess deaths before I got one.
00:20:18.000I spoke in an adjournment debate of half an hour On the 20th of October last year, having tried for 26 sitting weeks to get that debate.
00:20:29.000So you can only apply on date on weeks when we're sitting, so that was more than six months.
00:20:35.000Very few people there but I had a bunch of eminent scientists, all who've been Suspended, demonetised, sacked from their universities and we had an event in Parliament on the 4th of December.
00:20:50.000I managed to get 20 MPs there, 17 of them signed up and we managed to get a 90 minute backbench business debate on trends in excess deaths which happened on the 16th of January.
00:21:02.000A number of MPs turned up for that, it was well subscribed and now I've got 24 MPs who have supported me and we've had a successful application for a three hour debate in the Chamber of the House of Commons where that issue of excess deaths needs to be debated.
00:21:20.000But the problem is the conspiracy of the Parliament is that I'm raising issues which the main parties don't want to talk about.
00:21:28.000If you have to think about it, it was very clever during the pandemic.
00:21:31.000So the SNP were in charge of the COVID response in Scotland, Labour were in charge in Wales and the Conservatives were in charge in England.
00:21:39.000So they've all got a vested interest in saying we did everything right.
00:21:45.000So they don't, none of them want to have that debate because ultimately they all know the truth that it was wrong and even the COVID inquiry which is is a whitewash.
00:21:55.000They announced two weeks ago that the module 4 which is to deal with the safety and efficacy of the vaccines has been postponed indefinitely certainly until after the next general election.
00:22:05.000Given that the rhetoric throughout the pandemic period was that we ought be following science, verifiable information, data that was reliable, how does it make you feel as a physician, no longer a physician while your license is revoked by these extraordinary forces, that these inquiries are being conducted in such a dubious manner that seem, as Andrew has suggested, designed to prevent useful conclusions being reached?
00:22:27.000How does that tally with your own understanding of empiricism?
00:22:44.000The government, my government, your government, your government actually seemed to be providing reasonable data for longer than most, but stopped about more than a year ago.
00:22:55.000Different Canadian provinces for a while seemed, looked like they were providing good data, then stopped.
00:23:02.000It was even written up in the New York Times, which is not normally a reliable source of information, that the CDC was withholding massive amounts of data from the public.
00:23:11.000You know, we've had to sue the FDA to get data that is supposed to be in the public domain.
00:23:17.000So, what's happened is that, basically, we have a uniparty, and this uniparty is a global uniparty in most of the developed countries of the world, if not all.
00:23:28.000We have People running these countries who appear to have been vetted by some supra-national organization like the Bilderbergers or the World Economic Forum.
00:23:41.000We don't really understand how they got into position, but they seem to be uniformly incompetent.
00:23:47.000You know, people like Jacinda Ardern or the former leader of Finland or Justin Trudeau in France.
00:23:59.000Before you leap to conclusions like that, that these are somehow globalist stooges with no interest in representing their populations and constituencies, I think this is astonishing.
00:24:09.000And you mentioned for a moment the FDA.
00:24:11.000I increasingly wonder if the funding of these organisations make them vulnerable.
00:24:18.000And whether it's the FDA, there's an alarm going off in here, or the WHO, it seems that these agencies...
00:24:24.000operate in order to implement an unseen will that is absolutely
00:24:30.000antithetical to democracy and that's before we get to the revolving door
00:24:34.000between pharmaceutical companies and the government. In our country Andrew
00:24:37.000Jonathan Van Tam who was one of the voices of the pandemic, one of the
00:24:40.000voices we look to to rely on, where does he work currently?
00:25:03.000So Jonathan Van Tamen was the... and yet when people have Reasonable people, scientists, and committed politicians with whom I'm sure there'll be a raft of issues upon which we would disagree, but fundamentally I think we agree with our rights to have free speech, the ability to debate and communicate.
00:25:19.000As you've said, the principles of science require ongoing, intrepid investigation, objectivity, free exchange of ideas, and whether it's Jay Bhattacharya and the other great physicians who were silenced at the beginning of this debate, or personal family physicians who wanted to do the best for their patients, which is the Sacred bond, but it must exist in modern medicine.
00:25:41.000Anybody who says to you, the science is settled, that isn't the way science works.
00:25:46.000I mean, even doctors qualifying this week will know, they'll be told in medical school, that half of what you learned will be proven to be wrong within 10 years.
00:25:56.000Even since the start of this conversation, Andrew, things have been debunked!
00:26:01.000There's debunking taking place all over the place, relentlessly.
00:26:05.000Andrew, one of the things that I feel is significant is that you are doing your best, for which I salute you and applaud you, to through the institutions of government Represent what appeared to be the will of your constituency in a much broader one when it comes to this significant era which from my perspective merely as a citizen and an observer and an interested party appears to have been that the pandemic offered us a window into how institutional power operates, the relationship between the media and the state, the relationship between Big Pharma and the state and perhaps most significantly of all
00:26:44.000These globalist organisations like the WHO and their ability to implement power, was this something that was astonishing to you?
00:26:53.000Was that your purview prior to the pandemic period?
00:26:56.000Because if it was, why the hell did you even become a politician?
00:26:59.000Because it surely must have been evident there's nothing you can do from within Westminster.
00:27:03.000Well, I'd got involved through a constituent in the Post Office Horizon scandal at a very early stage.
00:27:10.000The famous Post Office Horizon, which has defined the news cycle in the United Kingdom, where it's found that some faulty equipment meant that some postmasters, people that ran post offices and mail facilities, were wrongly convicted of financial crimes and theft and embezzlement crimes they did not commit.
00:27:26.000Well, that was a big scandal when it It was a television program.
00:27:29.000No one cared about it until it was a television program.
00:27:30.000But once it became a successful television program, the entire political space and media space became temporarily obsessed because it's fait accompli.
00:27:47.000Well, within a few weeks of being elected, I was approached by a constituent who was Michael and Susan Rudkin.
00:27:53.000Michael Rudkin's character is one of the stars of the program.
00:27:57.000He was the chair of the National Postmasters Federation.
00:28:01.000He's the man who went to Fujitsu's headquarters on an official visit, believes that he was mistaken for someone else, Shown everything, including Fujitsu IT engineers doctoring accounts in Horizon sub-postmaster systems without them knowing about it.
00:28:20.000I questioned them about it, then they realised who he was, was thrown out of the building, drove back to Ibstock post office in my constituency, thinking about it, went to bed and the next morning his wife had mysteriously got a £44,000 shortfall on her computer and they were both prosecuted and discredited.
00:28:39.000And when he approached me, this was an unbelievable story, a conspiracy theory, but I looked at these two people who were clearly physically and mentally broken, They were raking up old wounds.
00:28:55.000And they previously had a blemishless track record.
00:28:59.000I went to other MPs and said, have any of you had a sub-postmaster who's run a post office for decades and then suddenly been accused of a massive fraud and says they're innocent?
00:29:09.000And mysteriously, there were these people.
00:29:14.000We met with the post office and they were officious and always flanked by very expensive lawyers.
00:29:21.000We met with the sub-postmasters who were very grateful to anyone to hear their story and were very open and I managed to ambush the post office That they said the system was perfect and bomb-proof, so they had to let me put a forensic accountant in.
00:29:35.000And I got a good forensic accountant, a contact of mine called Ron Warmington at a second site, and the moment he got in there, everything started to break open.
00:29:42.000But I had told the government that the Cabinet Office had got to fund that investigation, because they said, no, we're going to let the Post Office fund their own investigation.
00:29:50.000I said, well, the moment they find something, they're just going to say, well, you know, who pays the piper calls the tune, they're going
00:29:57.000to try and shut the investigation down and that's exactly what happened. But Ron Warmington
00:30:02.000was a man of high moral standing, he withstood the battering the post office were giving him,
00:30:06.000he gave me the unredacted reports and then we got a whistleblower from Fujitsu to
00:30:12.000come forward and he was one of the IT engineers that had met Mr Rudkin.
00:30:29.000Called a lunatic and a conspiracy theorist simply for asking questions about what's happened in the pandemic period and yet with this story of the day that people are very excited about because it's been televised and dramatized and there's grand standing and desk thumb pin and something must be done, essentially a safe
00:30:47.000issue other than the tragedies that is caused for those directly affected by it, you were
00:30:51.000involved on the ground floor. You spotted while other people were dishing out CBEs to postmasters,
00:30:56.000further contracts to Fujitsu. At that point, you were saying that there was
00:31:00.000something to see, that there was evident corruption, that there was exploitation, that you
00:31:04.000couldn't trust the legacy media's perspective on it, that Parliament ought be discussing it
00:31:11.000So it seems, to somewhat parent a question that you offered in Parliament recently, that there are echoes Shades and I would say comparisons to be made between this example of collaboration, corruption, whitewashing and what we've experienced in the last few years.
00:31:31.000And even just to hear that you had the integrity to get involved in that story before it was something that was popular and people were all excited about must surely mean that people cannot question your integrity with the same glib certainty.
00:31:43.000Well, anybody watching, listening to this can go into Hansard back in 2015 and type in Post Office Andrew Bridgen and they will find the full account that was covered in that television programme.
00:31:57.000I gave that account to the House of Commons nine years ago, word for word.
00:32:29.000From 2014 onwards we knew and as soon as the Fujitsu whistleblower came forward we knew that everything Mr. Rudkin said it was true and that all because post office were misleading in court that no one could alter it and they could every conviction was unsafe on the basis of that.
00:32:46.000I went around to the BBC and ITV, Sky, Channel 4 News, The Times, The Telegraph,
00:32:52.000everyone else and said I've got the evidence, here's the story, all these people are innocent, this is
00:32:56.000the biggest miscarriage of justice in UK history, run this story and you'll get an award.
00:33:01.000And they all liked it, but nobody would run it.
00:33:04.000And that's exactly what's happening with the vaccine harms now.
00:33:07.000Of course it's precisely what's happening and yet of course, in my view, this is an even more serious issue because it's a global one, because of the medical impact and because of what it reveals to us about the nature of global power.
00:33:20.000Perhaps one silver lining that we might look to is the fact that now you don't have, of
00:33:26.000course you do have, institutional media that solely exist in order to amplify the message
00:33:31.000of the powerful, that accepts money from, for example, the pharmaceutical industry and
00:33:35.000amplifies their message, that has an intrinsic relationship with the state and therefore
00:33:40.000amplifies and normalizes their messaging.
00:33:42.000But thankfully we have independent media now that grants direct access, currently, before
00:33:48.000the censorship laws take a stranglehold of the nation, and indeed the world, that can
00:33:55.000convey information openly and people can decide for ourselves whether or not we believe the
00:34:03.000How have you found it, trying to convey some of these complex and challenging stories, both of you, Meryl, you and as well, Andrew, of course, In a new independent media space.
00:34:13.000I know that you will have been smeared.
00:34:14.000I know you will have faced attempts to discredit you and that you would have been attacked.
00:34:18.000And yet, because what you are saying is, in my opinion, true, you will have found sympathetic listeners.
00:34:24.000And do you get a sense that more and more people are starting to understand the nature of truth?
00:34:28.000More and more people are coming together in order to oppose the establishment, willing to overlook what our distinctions and differences may be, in recognising that we have a common enemy at this point.
00:35:22.000Well, everyone on our side of the argument, Meryl's side, my side of the argument, we've all been Castigated, smeared, thrown out of our positions.
00:35:36.000That's whether you're a scientist, a doctor, or a politician.
00:35:45.000And the example I'll give you is I spoke out on the 13th of December 2022 when the government were being approached by the Medicines and Healthcare Product Regulatory Agency, the MHRA, 86% funded by Big Pharma, and supposedly the regulator to look after us in the UK, and the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, who declared between them a billion pounds of interest in Big Pharma stock.
00:36:15.000There are protectors and they recommended that the MHRA asked for permission from the government, authorisation to vaccinate healthy children down to the age of six months.
00:36:26.000And I knew that there was no risk to a healthy child from Covid but there was a risk from the vaccines and even the most Pro-vaccine person, I can persuade that these children, there's never been one of these that's died of COVID-19, but there will be some harm by the vaccines.
00:36:41.000And so I spoke out on the 13th of December.
00:36:42.000From that moment, I was cancelled by the mainstream media.
00:36:45.000I had a meeting with the grandees of the Conservative Party in January, when they suspended me.
00:36:50.000They're the sort of senior administrators.
00:36:55.000At this stage, they'll remain nameless.
00:36:57.000And I spoke for an hour and a half, Concerns about the vaccines, the science, and my degrees in biology, biochemistry, genetics and virology.
00:37:23.000You know the vulnerable elderly who were in hospital who were cleared out in spring 2020 to make way for the expected first wave of Covid patients?
00:37:32.000Well I asked the government a long time ago how many of those were moved out into care homes and nursing homes and how many were dead within 7, 14, 28, 56, 72 days of on their death certificate Covid-19 and B, other causes and the government came back and said we don't hold any of that data.
00:37:52.000I'm afraid I have a pretty good idea what happened to them and I think most of them were put down as COVID deaths and they may well have been euthanized with midazolam and morphine which is a respiratory suppressant.
00:38:03.000Why would you give someone you think's got COVID a respiratory suppressant?
00:38:08.000And at the end of that hour and a half meeting I was told by the Conservative Party spokesperson Andrew, there is currently no political appetite for your views on the vaccines.
00:38:20.000There may well be in 20 years' time, and you're probably going to be proven right.
00:38:24.000In the meantime, you need to bear in mind you're taking on the most powerful vested interest in the world, with all the personal risk for you which that will entail.
00:38:32.000And I said, I think this meeting's over.
00:38:35.000The personal risk that entails, that sort of sounds like a threat.
00:38:39.000It's extraordinary when you enter into this space to see the kind of machinery that will work against you.
00:38:44.000I'm talking here specifically about groups like Logically AI, groups that are used to crush dissent online and amplify their messaging, again, the preferred messaging of what we have to call, for simplicity's sake, the establishment elite.
00:38:58.000Given these experiences, in particular the last one that you've just relayed, Andrew, and all of its redolent terror, Do you feel that democracy itself needs to change?
00:39:09.000And do you think, and I'll ask the same question to you in a moment if I may, Meryl, that the British public have an appetite for a different type of democracy?
00:39:18.000Because certainly I see in America, because we've seen a different class of political figure emerge, for whatever you think of him, Donald Trump represents a strain of populism that is certainly novel.
00:39:29.000Bobby Kennedy Who's tied his colour to the mask to this issue way before anyone I knew was talking about it.
00:39:36.000I noticed that part of your expertise was contagions and you sort of indicate bioweapons and Bobby Kennedy was the first person I heard talk about dual purpose research and ideas that once belonged to the realm of conspiracy but now have to roundly be referred to as facts.
00:39:51.000Do you think that there is the opportunity and possibility for new emergent political, what do I want to say, leverage and indeed It's interesting that when I was expelled permanently from the Conservative Party for my views on the vaccines and retweeting a tweet from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Dr. Josh Getzko, and a quote that said a world-leading cardiologist told me that the rollout of the vaccines is the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust, I was declared as an anti-Semite racist.
00:40:28.000Okay, so is this, we're going to move towards Iraq.
00:40:29.000Well done telling me, well done for doing your job there, because that's for all of our time.
00:40:33.000Okay, so you would, so given that kind of... Well, when that happened, I was expelled from the Conservative Party.
00:40:41.000Not one of my colleagues, who I'd served with for 13 years in the House of Commons, text me or rang me and said, this is bad news Andrew, but I got a call from Robert Kennedy Jr.
00:40:49.000within an hour from America, a presidential candidate, and he said, this is disgraceful what they're doing to you.
00:41:08.000I'm so glad that you're still a Member of Parliament and you still have the ability to raise these kind of questions and inquiries in that context.
00:41:15.000There's going to be an election soon and it'll be up to the people of North West Leicestershire but I've got a very good chance of holding my seat.
00:41:22.000Yeah, that'd be fantastic if that happens.
00:41:24.000What do you think about, Meryl, the way that the political landscape is shifting in your country?
00:41:30.000It seems that anti-establishmentism is on the rise, that people don't trust institutions anymore, don't trust democracy, don't trust the media, don't trust the judiciary, don't trust many of their institutions.
00:41:41.000Do you get a sense that radical change may emerge that could be positive?
00:41:46.000Well, more people are independents than have subscribed to a party in the United States.
00:41:52.000However, none of us think that the voting machinery is reliable.
00:41:58.000So we don't know if our elected representatives have actually been elected.
00:42:04.000And that is probably going to be even a bigger problem during this next presidential election when there is so much at stake.
00:42:11.000And I really am talking about a takeover of the world.
00:42:13.000That's why I'd like to announce that our show today is sponsored by Fujitsu, who are going to be making new voting machines, 100% reliable.
00:42:20.000If you vote whether you're living or dead, that vote will be registered for a candidate of the globalists' choice.
00:42:27.000We desperately do need democratic change in the UK and around the world.
00:42:30.000I mean, the symbol of the Houses of Parliament is the Portcullis, the defender of the nation.
00:42:35.000When the drawbridge is down, you've still got the Portcullis, the last defender of the castle.
00:42:39.000We have not defended anybody and I'm really sorry about that.
00:42:43.000The regulators, all the institutions set to protect public health and public interest have failed and we need something different, something better.
00:42:53.000I'd like to thank both of you, Meryl and Andrew, for being so brave for the sacrifice that you've made in your various professions to speak openly and truthfully.
00:43:04.000It's literally the only chance that we have is to tell the truth to as many people as possible and allow them to determine for ourselves what direction we may go in subsequently.