Stay Free - Russel Brand - Meta & Merck’s SECRET Alliance Just Got EXPOSED?!

00:00:00.000 I'm going to go ahead and get the other one.

00:03:56.000 So I'm looking for a way to get to you.

00:03:57.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:04:06.000 We are getting some breaking news.

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00:04:14.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:04:16.000 Thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:04:18.000 We've got an incredible show for you today, particularly if you are already an Awakened Wonder, you can join us live and join in with the conversation.

00:04:26.000 We're going to be asking you which particular clips or stories you want covered.

00:04:30.000 We're going to be asking you questions throughout, so do become an Awakened Wonder if you can.

00:04:35.000 In the show we're talking about the global free speech crackdown that's already underway.

00:04:39.000 Legislation's being passed across the world.

00:04:41.000 Joe Rogan's noticed that Canada is potentially coming for his content.

00:04:46.000 We'll be talking about that.

00:04:47.000 And Elon Musk is receiving peculiar Threatening letters from gangster bureaucrats from the EU as a result of their new digital crackdown laws.

00:04:55.000 Essentially, across the world, independent media is being pressed.

00:05:00.000 Now, many of you that are sort of, I would say, conspiracy theorist adjacent have noted that centralised authoritarianism will require censorship because as long as there's access to account and narrative, we can dispute what the legacy media are telling us.

00:05:15.000 And you know that the function of the legacy media is to amplify and normalize the objectives and agenda of the powerful.

00:05:22.000 We're going to be talking to Asim Malhotra later.

00:05:24.000 Let me know in the chat if you've seen Asim Malhotra on the show before.

00:05:29.000 If you have, press Y if you've never seen him before.

00:05:32.000 You're going to love him.

00:05:33.000 When we found him, he was little more than a plucky cardiologist.

00:05:37.000 Now he's appearing live with some of the great heroes of our show, like Vandana Shiva and Bobby Kennedy, talking about misinformation, disinformation and medical malpractice everywhere.

00:05:49.000 He has become one of the most outspoken voices around pandemic corruption and today we talk a little bit around some of the changes in reporting around myocarditis and pericarditis yet another one of those subjects that moved from you're a conspiracy theorist nutjob to Pfizer having to plainly admit it.

00:06:08.000 If you're watching this anywhere other than Rumble, download that Rumble app right now, because unlike YouTube, if you download the Rumble app and then turn on the notification bell, you will get notified.

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00:06:20.000 There's a new piece of stay free content.

00:06:22.000 Obviously, if you own a Samsung phone, they won't ever let you do it, which is another crazy weird thing.

00:06:28.000 Now, of course, we're talking about the ongoing Omnicrisis.

00:06:32.000 I know you lot.

00:06:33.000 I know you very well.

00:06:35.000 I know that you are intelligent, and intelligence and sensitivity are very similar qualities.

00:06:42.000 And it's difficult to be alive right now and know that we live in the midst of numerous geopolitical crises, some of which are too...

00:06:50.000 Sensitive and incendiary even to discuss.

00:06:54.000 One of the new emergent aspects of the escalating Middle Eastern conflict is the potential for military action against Iran.

00:07:03.000 As I've said to you before and I will say to you again, I don't feel qualified to comment on the grief and agony that the people of Israel must be going through now.

00:07:12.000 Whatever they are feeling is an appropriate response to the horrors that they have recently endured, I do not feel qualified to comment on or gainsay.

00:07:23.000 But I want to point this out.

00:07:25.000 Do you know that A military attack from the United States on Iran is something that's been discussed for a long, long time.

00:07:32.000 You know that America's involvement in Iranian politics is an ongoing thing.

00:07:36.000 Let me know why or if you know the deep history of corporatist, colonialist interests in the Middle East.

00:07:42.000 It's obviously a very significant factor.

00:07:46.000 You know that when the New American Century plans were announced, and we're going to go into more detail on this tomorrow, the countries that were proposed to be attacked, undermined and essentially dismantled were Iraq, Syria, Iran, I think North Korea, Lebanon, Libya.

00:08:03.000 Anyway, Iran is one of those countries and this is something we were just discussing here today.

00:08:07.000 We'd kind of forgotten that when Trump left office and he had those documents, those boxes, Beautiful boxes.

00:08:13.000 Not as many boxes.

00:08:13.000 I keep them in a nicer place.

00:08:15.000 Biden keeps his in a garage.

00:08:16.000 Disgusting.

00:08:17.000 One of the things that he had was plans for the United States to attack Iran.

00:08:23.000 This is extraordinary and I want you to bear this in mind when watching Lindsey Graham, a very hawkish Republican pro-Trump politician who has Throughout the Russia-Ukraine conflict advocated for more and more military expenditure, more and more support for Ukraine.

00:08:39.000 And again, you can understand why people would want to support the suffering Ukrainians.

00:08:44.000 Of course, from a humanitarian perspective, that is wise and advisable.

00:08:48.000 But have you noticed that there's an attempt to bundle together Various global conflicts, notably and obviously the current Israeli situation, with perpetuating the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

00:09:02.000 Let me know if you've noticed that.

00:09:04.000 Have you observed, because certainly we've told you, that people in Congress, just as this crisis was escalating, were investing in weapons manufacturers.

00:09:14.000 What's going on with the exploitation of this situation?

00:09:17.000 And watch Lindsey Graham now and tell me in your heart of hearts, do you think Lindsey Graham is speaking from a perspective of shared horror in the terror attacks that took place in the past few weeks?

00:09:28.000 Or do you think there is another motivation?

00:09:30.000 And note that what he's suggesting is attacking Iranian oil refineries.

00:09:35.000 Let's look at that.

00:09:36.000 Well, for every Israeli or American hostage executed by Hamas, we should take down an Iranian oil refinery.

00:09:45.000 The only way you're going to keep this war from escalating is to hold Iran accountable.

00:09:50.000 How much more death and destruction do we have to take?

00:09:54.000 Okay, so that's very incendiary rhetoric.

00:09:55.000 I am confident this was planned and funded by the Iranians.

00:09:59.000 Hamas is a bunch of animals who deserve to be treated like animals. So if I

00:10:04.000 was Israel I would go in on the ground, there is no truce to be had here, I

00:10:09.000 would dismantle Hamas.

00:10:10.000 Okay so that's very incendiary rhetoric and when you hear that do you feel that

00:10:16.000 what's being proposed is support for Israel or is this the kind of

00:10:20.000 exploitation of crises that we've experienced both in the Russia-Ukraine

00:10:25.000 conflict and perhaps throughout American military history, certainly in the last

00:10:31.000 50 years.

00:10:32.000 What appears to be behind Lindsey Graham's rhetoric there?

00:10:36.000 Because we've noted a lot of exploitation.

00:10:40.000 of this situation in the last few days. Unusual Wales, the ex-account or Twitter account,

00:10:46.000 you have to always say formerly Twitter don't you, because otherwise people don't know what

00:10:48.000 you're talking about, has aggregated a list of stocks that US politicians benefit personally from

00:10:55.000 with regard to the Israel-Hamas war as well as the Ukraine war. Let's have a look at that now.

00:11:01.000 breaking. US politicians are benefiting personally from the Israel-Hamas war as well as the Ukraine

00:11:05.000 war. I've aggregated a list of their stocks like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin etc. They're making

00:11:10.000 millions as the war continues. Because it is such a complex conflict and it's so difficult isn't it

00:11:15.000 to find a way to speak about it without harming already grieving people. We're focusing on the

00:11:24.000 exploitation that's taking place.

00:11:26.000 Look at the astonishing number of people that have stocks and shares in weapons manufacturers.

00:11:31.000 You'll note Nancy Pelosi, former Speaker of the House, and I sort of mention her only really because Tommy Tuberville, I can't even believe it's a real person, it's such a crazy name, and like Nancy Pelosi was always sort of offered to us as a very idealistic politician, And yet it seems that she does.

00:11:48.000 And let me know, do you agree that Nancy Pelosi appears to be benefiting from some of the most egregious and dreadful geopolitical situations?

00:11:56.000 Yeah, Asha Ella says yes and I think a lot of us feel the same way.

00:12:02.000 One of the challenges we have now is a total loss of moral authority in all of our institutions.

00:12:09.000 Whether that's the legacy media, who trusts them anymore?

00:12:11.000 The state?

00:12:12.000 The corporatist state?

00:12:14.000 How can we ever again open-heartedly feel that we can be allied together in Adventures or misadventures that are governed and directed by people that are financially benefiting from the most tragic, sad situations on the planet.

00:12:34.000 And yet, when it comes to misinformation and disinformation, it's not the establishment that are held to account, it's independent media and ordinary people.

00:12:42.000 When they talk about misinformation and disinformation, and we're going into this in some depth later in the show, they generally speaking don't mean, you know, we the government should be telling the truth and throughout the pandemic we made many errors and here's a full reckoning now, let's get up to date with what we said and what we should have said.

00:13:00.000 No, they mean we want the ability to censor and surveil you and shut down dissenting voices.

00:13:06.000 Curiously, Joe Biden has just joined Truth Social, you know, Donald Trump's social media platform.

00:13:15.000 It seems to be midway between a kind of prank, that prankster Joe Biden, that gadabout, that Johnny Knoxville of Capitol Hill Joe Biden, and also a sort of an attempt to control misinformation.

00:13:29.000 Let's have a look at that.

00:13:31.000 Biden is bringing his campaign to Trump's social media platform, Truth Social.

00:13:36.000 The campaign says it's in an effort to meet voters, quote, where they are.

00:13:40.000 Biden campaign officials say they'll inject their message on the platform to combat misinformation about the president.

00:13:47.000 The campaign's handle is at Biden HQ, its first post reading, quote, let's see how this goes.

00:13:54.000 Converts welcome.

00:13:55.000 He's in for a rough ride, I'd say, on Truth Social.

00:13:58.000 And again, when it comes to misinformation and disinformation, wouldn't you feel a lot more open to trusting and advocating for censorship if, for example, Joe Biden had ever addressed the misinformation around Russiagate, the Hunter Biden laptop story, repression?

00:14:17.000 And the plethora, the almost limitless number of fake news stories of untrue propagandized and weaponized pieces of information throughout the pandemic period.

00:14:30.000 It's astonishing now to see that Pfizer have acknowledged that myocarditis and pericarditis for certain demographics are a risk if you take their products.

00:14:41.000 To me it's just that's something that if you said it I mean I don't know if you can say it now on YouTube I guess we'll find out we're already demonetized what have we got to lose so but a little while ago you simply couldn't say that let's have a look at what their new position is.

00:14:56.000 COVID-19 vaccines show increased risk of myocarditis, which is inflammation of the heart, pericarditis, inflammation of the line outside the heart, particularly in the first week following vaccination.

00:15:05.000 You just were not allowed to say that.

00:15:08.000 Do you remember?

00:15:10.000 The world is changing really quickly.

00:15:12.000 And until misinformation and disinformation becomes a two-way street, it simply has to be regarded as a weapon of the establishment to shut down dissent invoices.

00:15:23.000 The observed risk is highest in males, 12 through 17 and they recommended that age group take those meds pretty feverishly.

00:15:31.000 Now do you want to see Albert Baller demanding that people that propagate misinformation be treated as criminals?

00:15:39.000 Tell me in the chat just post why if you want to see that.

00:15:43.000 Or do you want to straight away go to an elderly lady hurling herself out of an aeroplane?

00:15:51.000 You want to see that, right?

00:15:52.000 Do you want to see Albert Bourla?

00:15:53.000 Let's see Albert Bourla and then I'll ask you if you want to see an elderly lady hurling herself out of an aeroplane.

00:16:00.000 Let's have a look at Albert Bourla saying that misinformation is a criminal offence.

00:16:04.000 And he'd know.

00:16:05.000 And I understand it.

00:16:06.000 And they don't want to take chances.

00:16:09.000 But there is a very small part of professionals which they circulate on purpose misinformation

00:16:18.000 so that they will mislead.

00:16:19.000 Who do you think are the people that circulated misinformation on purpose?

00:16:25.000 Who are the people that repressed true information on purpose?

00:16:30.000 And whilst myocarditis and pericarditis current findings at least convey might affect a small percentage of the population, it's likely they had access to that data long before it was shared there.

00:16:42.000 We've covered that story already.

00:16:43.000 You can see that if you're an awakened wonder right now or you can watch it on Rumble in its entirety.

00:16:48.000 Of course, we can't post those things in their entirety on YouTube for obvious reasons and if those reasons aren't obvious, it's that the YouTube use WHO guidelines in order to regulate their community.

00:17:00.000 A few comments from you lot.

00:17:01.000 Ashley says, finally, I've been waiting for this episode forever.

00:17:04.000 Firegirl 2020.

00:17:05.000 No shortage of Warhawks.

00:17:07.000 Ellen Sophia says they say support Ukraine, but they mean give money for weapons.

00:17:13.000 Okay, so there you are.

00:17:14.000 We're talking generally, broadly about misinformation and disinformation.

00:17:18.000 We're talking to Asim Malhotra a little later in the show.

00:17:23.000 He's an incredible orator on a variety of the subjects and our item here's the news uh it comprises an in-depth look at

00:17:33.000 the many censorship measures that are covering the world right now you'll love that do you want

00:17:39.000 to see uh like if Pfizer's stocks gone down as a result of this is that true should we have a

00:17:44.000 little look at that yes have a look Pfizer are making some headlines over the weekend after slashing

00:17:48.000 full year revenue guidance by 13% on Friday the pharmaceutical giant said that dwindling

00:17:54.000 demand for COVID-19 vaccines and treatments were responsible for the updated guidance plus

00:18:00.000 this was uh kind of the miracle vaccine that people were waiting for back in 2020 but I

00:18:05.000 guess the the answer is now that people aren't worried about this there's a lot more natural

00:18:09.000 immunity What is even news, for God's sake?

00:18:12.000 Hey, listen, do you want to see now a story that's... Yeah, COVID sales.

00:18:17.000 It's shocking, isn't it, Firegirl?

00:18:18.000 Do you want to see a story that's presented in that kind of end of the news, light-hearted story manner, but a key detail is missed?

00:18:26.000 Let me know.

00:18:27.000 Press Y in the chat if you can, if you want to see this, or If you want to move straight on to here's the news, press now.

00:18:33.000 It's just a flurry, an endless flurry of whys.

00:18:37.000 It's like talking to my five-year-old.

00:18:39.000 This is an amazing story.

00:18:40.000 Dorothy Hoffner made history just weeks ago when she became the oldest woman in the world to go skydiving at 104 years old.

00:18:49.000 Now note this is presented in a very sort of upbeat and positive way and then sort of out of nowhere the story is intersected by a Well, it can only be described as a tragic detail.

00:19:03.000 Dorothy Hoffner made history just a few days ago as the oldest woman in the world to go skydiving.

00:19:03.000 Let's have a look.

00:19:10.000 Ah, brilliant.

00:19:11.000 I mean, the G-force on her face is adorable.

00:19:13.000 It's so lovely.

00:19:14.000 Brilliant.

00:19:15.000 What a great tale.

00:19:16.000 Something to be positive about in this all-pervasive, omni-crisis where all we hear is war, horror, authoritarianism, fractured hearts, broken people, corruption and lies.

00:19:27.000 It's lovely to see a little old lady leaping out of a plane.

00:19:31.000 That's really put a smile on my face.

00:19:31.000 Brilliant.

00:19:33.000 Jumping out of an airplane at the ripe old age of 104.

00:19:37.000 Brilliant.

00:19:38.000 Perhaps there's hope for humanity after all.

00:19:41.000 Who's to stop us?

00:19:41.000 If Dorothy can do it, I can do it.

00:19:44.000 Sadly, Dorothy died over the weekend in her sleep.

00:19:47.000 Great.

00:19:47.000 Well, it's probably killed her, and it should never have gone skydiving.

00:19:47.000 Oh, brilliant.

00:19:50.000 What's the point in taking a risk?

00:19:51.000 We're all doomed.

00:19:51.000 What's the bloody point?

00:19:53.000 Oh, Dorothy.

00:19:54.000 Why'd you do it, Dorothy?

00:19:55.000 Why didn't they tell us that at the beginning?

00:19:57.000 Don't make me love Dorothy and then tell me that Dorothy's dead!

00:20:00.000 I've just fallen in love with her.

00:20:02.000 Days after her thrilling final weep from the sky.

00:20:05.000 That's what killed her!

00:20:06.000 Dorothy lived through the great depression.

00:20:09.000 We gave her a few Pfizer jabs on the way down to make sure she wasn't at risk of getting any airborne viruses.

00:20:16.000 ...and the COVID-19 pandemic.

00:20:18.000 And those closest to her say... Look at them shoes.

00:20:21.000 I don't think she should have been wearing them.

00:20:22.000 Look at them little dolly shoes.

00:20:23.000 A little patent slip-on when you're landing.

00:20:25.000 Nah, that's inadvisable.

00:20:28.000 It's either that or irresponsible use of meds that's taken dear Dorothy out.

00:20:33.000 God rest her eternal flying soul.

00:20:35.000 Ever lost a beat?

00:20:36.000 Some of our residents are 20 or 30 years younger than her, and she had more energy than... Why are we still talking about Dorothy?

00:20:42.000 Dorothy's gone!

00:20:43.000 We're going to have to let her go.

00:20:45.000 Ah, Dorothy, we hardly knew you.

00:20:48.000 Now, listen.

00:20:49.000 The legacy media is advocating for dissenting voices to be shut down everywhere.

00:20:54.000 Legislation is being passed across the globe, the EU, Canada, our country, the UK, Ireland, all passing draconian measures of their own to prevent you from communicating freely.

00:21:06.000 Of course, it's always introduced with perfectly reasonable ideas like...

00:21:10.000 Banning hate speech, or monitoring hate speech, or regulating or curtailing hate speech, and preventing child pornography.

00:21:16.000 All things that any sensible right-minded person would want to end.

00:21:20.000 But note we already have laws for those things.

00:21:22.000 what we don't currently have laws for is curtailing, foreclosing and utterly controlling our ability

00:21:28.000 to communicate openly. Put simply, it's become necessary to create centralised authoritarian

00:21:34.000 systems as the trend towards decentralisation afforded to us by immediate communication

00:21:40.000 and new possibilities for personal and community organisation become accessible to the world's

00:21:47.000 population through miraculous technology.

00:21:49.000 technology like this through platforms like Rumble and to a degree X. All of these platforms are now

00:21:56.000 under attack. So let's learn a little bit about the Digital Services Act. Let's learn a little

00:22:01.000 bit about what they're up to in Ireland.

00:22:03.000 How will your favourite podcast be affected and controlled by this legislation?

00:22:08.000 Is it possible that, in Canada at least, the information of who's listening to a podcast would be handed over to the government if they request it?

00:22:15.000 In Ireland, the police will have the ability to come into your house and take your laptop.

00:22:19.000 In France, they're gonna be able to turn on microphones on your phone, which a lot of us think they've been doing for a long time anyway.

00:22:25.000 Let me know in the chat if you think that's the case.

00:22:27.000 This is Here's the news.

00:22:28.000 being legislated for. What Edward Snowden revealed they were doing that was against

00:22:32.000 the law, they've solved that problem now. Why? How? By changing the bloody law. Here's

00:22:38.000 the news. No, here's the effing news.

00:22:51.000 Joe Rogan notes that Canada is controlling podcasts in an unprecedented way.

00:22:56.000 And you know the government wrote to YouTube about demonetizing this channel.

00:23:00.000 So what do we do about this global crackdown on free speech?

00:23:04.000 And who are we going to say anything to?

00:23:08.000 Joe Rogan notes the Canadian situation where podcasts are being controlled in extraordinary ways under some sort of patriotic hue extraordinarily is to promote Canadian content and to control all content the EU has written to Elon Musk in a sort of weird threatening bureaucratic gangster way saying he better control his platform otherwise they'll control their platform for him and you know that the British government literally wrote to all social media platforms demanding they demonetize our content So what's happening with this globalist crackdown on free speech?

00:23:41.000 What are they afraid of?

00:23:42.000 What are they trying to stop?

00:23:44.000 And what are we going to do together to oppose them?

00:23:47.000 Let's have a look first of all at Joe Rogan talking about new Canadian censorship laws that allow them to control podcasts in ways that are extraordinary and even know who's listening to particular podcasts.

00:23:58.000 I don't know how this kind of legislation keeps getting passed and we're continually told it's like for the good of free speech and it's somehow liberal.

00:24:05.000 It's not liberal to try and control everyone and everything all the time.

00:24:09.000 They're regulating podcasts in Canada.

00:24:11.000 They then want them to hand over information about their content and the people listening.

00:24:18.000 You can't have... That's dictatorship stuff.

00:24:21.000 That's what that is.

00:24:22.000 It's Banana Republic stuff.

00:24:23.000 We've talked about that raft of legislation in Canada and the various other ways that they're trying to create some sort of bizarre new brave new tyranny by censorship and revoking people's licenses to practice psychotherapy.

00:24:35.000 Obviously Jordan Peterson's who I specifically mean there as well as new measures that allow banks to kick people out.

00:24:41.000 I mean it's just all extraordinary and it's not happening in a sort of disparate and isolated way.

00:24:47.000 Seems concerted.

00:24:48.000 Do you think this is coordinated?

00:24:50.000 How do you think these things happen?

00:24:51.000 Do you think they come from centralist organisations?

00:24:54.000 How do these new legislature get simultaneously passed in concert?

00:24:58.000 How is it happening?

00:24:59.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:25:00.000 The European Commissioner for the Internal Market, Thierry Breton, has sent letters to Mark Zuckerberg of Meta and Elon Musk at X demanding they comply with the EU's sweeping new internet regulation, the Digital Services Act.

00:25:15.000 It's sweeping.

00:25:16.000 Good afternoon.

00:25:17.000 As the war in Israel and Gaza is playing out right now in real time across social media, experts are telling us that bad information and propaganda are spreading on X. Bad information and propaganda are spreading on X.

00:25:31.000 That was bad intelligence.

00:25:32.000 Very bad intelligence.

00:25:34.000 Do you believe that they mean bad information and propaganda, or do you think it's possible they mean information they'd prefer you not to have access to, potentially because it gives you ammunition for critiques against establishment interests?

00:25:34.000 I'm sorry.

00:25:47.000 Do you think that the role of the legacy media is to amplify and normalise the agenda of the powerful, and the problem they have In large part.

00:25:53.000 with social media is that it can't be meaningfully regulated

00:25:56.000 because attractive, appealing, well-put counter-narratives, whether they're true or not true,

00:26:00.000 can succeed in online spaces.

00:26:02.000 I don't think they care about truth.

00:26:04.000 I think they care about control.

00:26:06.000 In large part, formerly known as Twitter, of course.

00:26:08.000 We all have to say formerly known.

00:26:10.000 We can't get into the habit of just saying X.

00:26:12.000 Now, the research group Aletheia detected a network of at least 67 accounts that posted false content

00:26:18.000 about the war, and they've gotten millions of views.

00:26:22.000 and researchers have not identified who is behind these accounts.

00:26:26.000 Another way that the current escalating conflict in the Middle East is being exploited is with calls for censorship.

00:26:32.000 Any crisis that occurs will now be utilized to create authoritarian measures, to create a climate where authoritarianism is required, and then to sort of pass laws.

00:26:42.000 This happens all the time now.

00:26:44.000 We've recognized this system.

00:26:46.000 That used to be almost a kind of conspiracy theorist's gambit and analysis.

00:26:51.000 Now it's just, well, like, it's just like gravity.

00:26:54.000 It's just a law that you watch continually.

00:26:55.000 There's this crisis, therefore we're gonna have to do these things where you sort of have to suffer under new legislation and ultimately we get more authority.

00:27:03.000 It's always what happens.

00:27:04.000 If you noticed that, let me know in the chat.

00:27:05.000 And this of course comes after Elon Musk, the owner of X, laid off much of the team, the trust and safety team responsible for monitoring posts when he took over the company.

00:27:16.000 That trust and safety team were all from the FBI and CIA.

00:27:19.000 It's like the Twitter files never happened.

00:27:21.000 They didn't report on that Twitter file stuff at all.

00:27:23.000 They just ignored it.

00:27:25.000 Such an amazing story.

00:27:26.000 Hey, look, the CIA and the FBI are literally paying money.

00:27:28.000 They're infiltrating.

00:27:29.000 They're controlling this information.

00:27:31.000 Presumably, they're doing that at Legacy Media.

00:27:32.000 They're certainly doing it at Face.

00:27:33.000 Just no one talks about it.

00:27:35.000 So what is that?

00:27:36.000 You know, Joe Rogan's taking some cough medicine I don't agree with.

00:27:40.000 Let's go!

00:27:41.000 Blanket coverage!

00:27:42.000 Anything that's potentially affords and enables further centralized control of information.

00:27:48.000 They will throw resources at it.

00:27:50.000 They'll investigate to the ends of the earth throughout time like Doctor Who.

00:27:54.000 But stuff that's genuinely interesting and potentially disruptive to the interests of powerful.

00:27:58.000 I don't know about that.

00:27:59.000 Seems a bit prurient to go looking into people's private affairs.

00:28:02.000 Now, is anyone, anywhere, taking any horse paste at all?

00:28:06.000 Right, send another few investigators for that one.

00:28:10.000 There's Armageddon coming.

00:28:11.000 Oh, I don't mind about that.

00:28:12.000 Now, earlier this week, the European Union sent a public and quite harshly worded letter to the billionaire.

00:28:17.000 Harshly worded letters are getting sent places.

00:28:19.000 What is this, 1920?

00:28:21.000 Dear sir or madam, or dare I say, ex.

00:28:24.000 About, quote, repurposed old images of unrelated armed conflicts or military footage that actually originated from video games on X. This has been cherry-picked, hasn't it?

00:28:36.000 They've found an example.

00:28:37.000 Of course, all over social media sites, we all know this.

00:28:40.000 Anyone who goes online knows that there's a good deal of misinformation.

00:28:44.000 We're not questioning, actually, whether there's misinformation or not.

00:28:46.000 There is.

00:28:47.000 What we're questioning is who do you want to be in charge of your relationship with all sources of information, and who do you want determining what qualifies as misinformation and disinformation?

00:28:58.000 Do you want it to be the same people and institutions that have Why on earth would you say, let's put the people behind that in charge of what we can say to one another?

00:29:07.000 2008, 2019 onwards have used every single crisis to create more difficult conditions for ordinary people.

00:29:15.000 Energy crisis, subsidized energy companies, more profit for energy companies,

00:29:19.000 wars, military industrial complex profits, health crisis, pharmacological profits

00:29:23.000 for pharmaceutical companies.

00:29:24.000 Why on earth would you say, let's put the people behind that

00:29:27.000 in charge of what we can say to one another?

00:29:29.000 They're plainly absolutely delightful.

00:29:32.000 They asked Musk to immediately remove that what they call illegal content and disinformation

00:29:32.000 They asked Musk to immediately remove that, what they call illegal content and disinformation.

00:29:37.000 Otherwise penalties can be imposed on the Silicon Valley company.

00:29:37.000 Otherwise penalties can be imposed on the Silicon Valley Valley company now must turn around and he asked the EU to

00:29:42.000 Now Musk turned around and he asked the EU to please list the violations that they're alluding to.

00:29:44.000 please list the Violations that they're alluding to he said quote. I still

00:29:47.000 He said, quote, I still don't know what they're talking about.

00:29:48.000 don't know what they're talking about Now X formerly Twitter, of course

00:29:51.000 Now X, formerly Twitter, of course.

00:29:52.000 That's the only accurate bit of news that they're doing said it already has removed

00:29:56.000 Hamas affiliated accounts and several hundred accounts as of Monday and we've been pressing all of the major social

00:30:04.000 media platforms including Facebook

00:30:06.000 TikTok and snap and they all say they've increased their resources

00:30:10.000 So the legacy media are hassling social media to regulate themselves more rigorously all the while not acknowledging

00:30:17.000 that Legacy media is in total crisis because of the emergence of

00:30:21.000 these platforms There is no way that you can have objective reporting on independent media or any figure within independent media from the legacy media.

00:30:31.000 And now to comment on Burger King's burgers, it's Ronald McDonald.

00:30:34.000 What do you think of their burgers, Ronald?

00:30:36.000 Well, I think they're shitting them!

00:30:39.000 He's got a dog in the fight.

00:30:39.000 Don't trust him.

00:30:41.000 And maybe even in the burger.

00:30:42.000 Right, kids?

00:30:43.000 In various languages to fight this disinformation, it's an ongoing battle, but experts are also telling us that they expect this to get worse and continue to escalate as this conflict continues.

00:30:56.000 Of course they do.

00:30:56.000 Of course they frame it as a battle.

00:30:58.000 Of course they expect it to get worse.

00:31:00.000 Because if it was just, oh, let's just leave it and let people work out for themselves what's true, then they don't have the ability to control anymore.

00:31:06.000 They pretend it's about safety.

00:31:07.000 It's about control.

00:31:08.000 They pretend it's about convenience.

00:31:09.000 It's about control.

00:31:10.000 They pretend it's about anything.

00:31:12.000 It's about control.

00:31:13.000 It will always be about control.

00:31:14.000 What they do is control.

00:31:16.000 There's no reason to trust these institutions, whether it's the legacy media or the state, when it comes to our welfare.

00:31:23.000 They're not your friend.

00:31:24.000 They're your enemy.

00:31:25.000 I would imagine it would.

00:31:27.000 Alright, Jolene Kent, thank you.

00:31:29.000 Thanks.

00:31:29.000 Thank you.

00:31:30.000 Thanks.

00:31:30.000 I love you.

00:31:31.000 I love you too.

00:31:32.000 As well as old-fashioned legacy media where you sort of sit down like an obedient little prisoner at 8pm and eat your dinner on your lap while you're lied to by someone behind a desk, there's also letters.

00:31:43.000 Another time-honoured way of communicating to billionaires.

00:31:46.000 These are the EU Digital Service Act letters from Thierry Breton.

00:31:51.000 Both Breton letters contained passages complaining of platform failure to remove illegal content, a concept that is surely coming to the US soon.

00:31:59.000 So, there you go.

00:32:00.000 Bureaucracies are now leveraging their power against platforms to remove illegal content.

00:32:08.000 In a way, they're posing this, as with the Canadian legislation, as ways of regulating big tech.

00:32:12.000 But they're not regulating big tech.

00:32:14.000 They're regulating you.

00:32:15.000 They're using their control over big tech to control information on platforms.

00:32:20.000 And of course they'll start by saying it's hate speech, or child pornography, or things that anyone would agree should be mediated, softened, removed altogether, in order to control information as they've already done.

00:32:30.000 done during the pandemic and the Hunter Biden laptop affair to control narratives that are

00:32:34.000 harmful to their agenda. You know that already, but let me know in the chat if you think we're

00:32:37.000 going in the right direction with this stuff. This is from that letter. When you receive notices of

00:32:41.000 illegal content in the EU, you must be timely, diligent and effective in taking action and

00:32:46.000 removing the relevant content when warranted. We have from qualified services reports of

00:32:50.000 potentially illegal content circulating on your service.

00:32:54.000 Very Kafkaesque.

00:32:55.000 Very bureaucratic.

00:32:56.000 The weaponisation of bureaucracies.

00:32:59.000 From a haughty and supercilious position of presumed righteousness.

00:33:03.000 As if the rest of the world looks at the EU and goes, those are the guys.

00:33:07.000 Those are the guys we trust to run reality for us.

00:33:10.000 Bretton advertised his ultimatum to both firms, tweeting that he wrote Musk because following the terrorist attacks by Hamas, we have indications of X being used to disseminate illegal content and disinformation, while to Zuckerberg he claimed the motive involved tackling disinformation in elections in the EU.

00:33:28.000 What is the Digital Services Act and how can it help you and I communicate more freely without all this bloody disinformation everywhere that I'm incapable of discerning from my poor, stupid, child-like self as to whether it's true or not?

00:33:41.000 Please, somebody intervene and protect me from the internet!

00:33:44.000 The world's largest digital companies have nowhere to hide.

00:33:49.000 Nowhere to hide?

00:33:52.000 What is the dynamic that's being described here, and who is this persecuting force?

00:33:57.000 Who is this monotheistic deity, this god, this god the father, that's entrusted with controlling reality?

00:34:03.000 We don't have that kind of faith in these institutions.

00:34:07.000 I don't like seeing them wobbling like that.

00:34:11.000 I don't like it when it happens by accident on my phone, and I don't like it now.

00:34:15.000 The EU's Digital Service Act is taking the internet by storm.

00:34:20.000 What?

00:34:20.000 No, it's not.

00:34:21.000 It's not the Beatles.

00:34:22.000 It's censorship.

00:34:23.000 If the Beatles were around now, they'd ban them, wouldn't they?

00:34:25.000 I don't like these guys.

00:34:27.000 Psychedelics.

00:34:27.000 Drug use.

00:34:28.000 Back in the USSR.

00:34:29.000 Putin lover!

00:34:30.000 Marking the toughest regulations since social media burst onto screens.

00:34:35.000 What's these people's attitude to what the internet is?

00:34:38.000 The internet, woo!

00:34:40.000 It's not pogs, it's not augmented reality.

00:34:42.000 We're used to it now.

00:34:43.000 Here is Thierry Breton, a French grandmother-looking man threatening Elon Musk as if he's Al Capone.

00:34:49.000 The DSR is here.

00:34:50.000 Here to protect free speech against arbitrary decisions.

00:34:54.000 and at the same time to protect our citizens and democracies against illegal content.

00:35:00.000 That's what tyranny looks like now.

00:35:02.000 Boring.

00:35:02.000 Boring and bureaucratic.

00:35:04.000 We need to control these things.

00:35:05.000 It's Huxleyan.

00:35:06.000 It's Kafkaesque.

00:35:08.000 We've been warned in literature.

00:35:09.000 The collective consciousness of our kind and our genii has been telling us that this centralised authoritarianism was on its way and now it's arrived.

00:35:17.000 It's not melodramatic, militaristic and theatrical like the barbaric dictatorships of the last century.

00:35:24.000 It's dull and anodyne.

00:35:26.000 But no, what we are going to do is if we think that something is bad, we will just prevent you from seeing it.

00:35:31.000 Well, look at what's packed into that.

00:35:33.000 We know better than you, you're sort of a bit like a child, you trust us to make these decisions.

00:35:37.000 No, no, no.

00:35:38.000 If you're watching in Europe and own a smartphone, which probably applies to everyone, then you're going to start noticing changes over the next few months, with new safety, verification and consent features.

00:35:52.000 What?

00:35:53.000 Imposed by whom?

00:35:54.000 On what basis?

00:35:55.000 Under what mandate?

00:35:56.000 During which election was it discussed?

00:35:58.000 When did we get to choose?

00:35:59.000 Look at what's happening.

00:36:00.000 Just drifting towards tyranny.

00:36:02.000 There are so many crises continually happening.

00:36:05.000 So much desperation.

00:36:06.000 Such a void of spiritual values that we're unable to go, do you really want this?

00:36:11.000 The DSA will force companies with over 45 million monthly users like Google, YouTube and Instagram to clean up its act in terms of its content moderation, user privacy and transparency.

00:36:26.000 But this laundry list is still unclear over free speech.

00:36:30.000 Yes, that's curious that that's opaque, isn't it?

00:36:33.000 That they're clear about many aspects of the bill, but when it comes to Article 33, free speech, suddenly it becomes quite mysterious, vague and open to interpretation.

00:36:43.000 I wonder whose interpretation?

00:36:45.000 Can't have things like lawful but awful just because it rhymes.

00:36:53.000 It's not lawful but it's scoreful, stick it in a drawful, more full of lies.

00:36:59.000 Awful is subjective.

00:37:00.000 What lawful and awful is about is I'm going to decide what I consider to be awful.

00:37:06.000 I think it's awful that Donald Trump might win the election, therefore I think it's lawful to suppress this Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:37:13.000 I think it's awful that people might not be subject to authoritarian centralised control, therefore I think it's lawful to claim that this pandemic is worse than it actually is.

00:37:22.000 What I think is awful and not lawful is not allowing sentient awakened adults to have democratic purchase and control over their own lives.

00:37:31.000 The EU is yet again placing a magnifying glass over the world wide web, but with its rate

00:37:38.000 of expansion spiralling out of control.

00:37:40.000 It's a weird image isn't it?

00:37:42.000 It's a magnifying glass going over the world wide web and it's spiralling out of control.

00:37:47.000 I mean that's like sort of migraine language.

00:37:50.000 What it actually tells you in all of its metaphorical clumsiness is that this is an uncontrollable space where control has to be legitimized in order to maintain the sort of authority that was once taken for granted by these centralized bureaucracies but not exploited in the manner that it is now because we're not in this kind of late Corporatist nightmare, or at least we weren't then, we are now.

00:38:15.000 And this kind of authoritarianism is being utilised, I think, in some sort of nightmarish endgame.

00:38:20.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:38:21.000 The DSA isn't the first and won't be the last we hear of online safety.

00:38:27.000 From our friend Matt Taibbi.

00:38:28.000 The Digital Services Act is a grotesque, nakedly authoritarian law, written in language so obnoxious in its pompous inscrutability, that it would have impressed Orwell or Huxley.

00:38:39.000 They would have gone like, oh, that's actually rather good!

00:38:42.000 Well done!

00:38:42.000 Well, thank you, it's just the law.

00:38:44.000 No, it's very good.

00:38:45.000 Brilliant.

00:38:46.000 It's inscrutable.

00:38:47.000 We don't know what you mean.

00:38:48.000 You're going to use this to control us, aren't you?

00:38:51.000 Yes, we probably are.

00:38:52.000 Bretton's mention of qualified sources is a reference to the law's most heinous and dystopian portion, the so-called trusted flagger program, which puts a clutch of elitist NGO busybodies in charge of pouring through content to decide for the rabble what is untrue or harmful as a means of defending European norms.

00:39:12.000 I might not agree with those people.

00:39:16.000 I might see the world entirely differently.

00:39:18.000 I might want to make different economic, medical choices for me and for my loved ones and for my community.

00:39:23.000 I don't consent to this degree of interventionism.

00:39:27.000 Why is this not being communicated?

00:39:29.000 Why is this not being discussed?

00:39:30.000 Why is this not being opposed?

00:39:31.000 Why?

00:39:32.000 Because the legacy media, as we can see from this report, sees it as its job to amplify the interests of the powerful.

00:39:37.000 In this instance, the EU wants to control digital spaces, as does Canada, as does the UK, as does the US, as does everyone.

00:39:44.000 Big tech companies themselves recognise that they're going to have to come to some sort of alliance with government, otherwise they're going to be taxed differently, regulated differently, and they're not going to get those lucrative defence contracts, so they're gonna ultimately comply.

00:39:57.000 One of the major subplots of the new censorship industrial complex era, involves the lead role Europe has assumed in

00:40:02.000 implementing draconian speech laws, its leaders opining with imperious certainty that its

00:40:07.000 restrictive conceptions of speech will be brought to the United States, whether we like it or not.

00:40:12.000 Because what qualifies as hate speech, as illegal hate speech, which you will have soon

00:40:19.000 also in the US, I think that...

00:40:22.000 Calls for greater censorship come at the same time that the Macron government has passed

00:40:26.000 the new law allowing police to spy on people by secretly taking control of their phones

00:40:30.000 and laptop computers and activating the microphone, camera and GPS.

00:40:34.000 Well, at least they've passed a law for it now, rather than just doing it, which is what we all suspect they've been doing for a very long while.

00:40:40.000 I, though, am still staggered by that.

00:40:42.000 Years after Snowden's revelations, I'm still... Am I an idiot?

00:40:47.000 Plainly.

00:40:47.000 Like, because I'm... Like, no!

00:40:49.000 If they actually just... France!

00:40:51.000 Revolutionary France!

00:40:52.000 France with its fraternity and its liberté!

00:40:55.000 Now it's... I'm taking control of your microphone-té.

00:40:58.000 The government says a judge will have to approve all spying.

00:41:01.000 Phew!

00:41:03.000 What a relief!

00:41:04.000 Well done, Gilets Jaunes.

00:41:05.000 Your movement and your protests at Black Rock have finally paid off.

00:41:09.000 They won't be turning on your microphone unless a judge, who works for the government, approves of their spying.

00:41:15.000 Night, then.

00:41:15.000 See you in the morning.

00:41:17.000 Wait a minute!

00:41:18.000 What if we can't trust anyone?

00:41:19.000 But it is reasonable to worry about abuses of power.

00:41:22.000 I'd say.

00:41:23.000 In 2013, military contractor Edward Snowden revealed massivist government spying without a warrant.

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00:43:30.000 What's more, the attack on privacy and the demand for censorship is worldwide.

00:43:34.000 The British Parliament has passed legislation that will allow the government to spy on private and encrypted text messages.

00:43:39.000 They're doing this right now.

00:43:40.000 I mean, God, oh no!

00:43:42.000 The Irish Senate is expected to pass legislation that will allow the police to enter homes without a warrant and search phones and laptops for evidence of hate speech.

00:43:49.000 And Australia is on the cusp of passing a new law that would require social media companies to remove any speech that causes harm to health or the environment.

00:43:57.000 Health and the environment.

00:43:58.000 That's what people mean by vague.

00:44:00.000 Like, on one hand, it seems like, well, yeah, you should be able to harm people's health or harm the environment.

00:44:03.000 Agreed, agreed.

00:44:04.000 But the environment means everything and health means everything, which would allow government censorship of criticisms of its climate and energy policies.

00:44:12.000 But they wouldn't use it like that, would they?

00:44:14.000 Of course, the elite's crackdowns wouldn't be happening were the French, Irish and British governments more popular.

00:44:19.000 Macron has a 25% approval rating and a 70% disapproval rating.

00:44:23.000 Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar has 35% approval and 52% disapproval.

00:44:28.000 British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has 31% approval and 59% disapproval rating.

00:44:33.000 Mad unpopular leaders making mad unpopular choices.

00:44:36.000 There is a psychological explanation for why such leaders might demand greater censorship.

00:44:41.000 Politics in general attracts narcissists who have a grandiose view of their own role in history, who feel entitled to great power, and who tend to view themselves as purely good and their political enemies as purely evil.

00:44:53.000 Such narcissism is entirely compatible with free speech so long as the political leader is popular.

00:44:58.000 As they become less popular and their agenda harder to achieve, they resort to authoritarian measures, as we're seeing around the world.

00:45:03.000 Do you know that how, like, sort of leaders like Donald Trump and that dude in Hungary and stuff are described as despotic, demagogues and all that, but these kind of, like, Macron's meant to be the very face of, like, liberalism, but look at the laws they're passing.

00:45:17.000 When I spoke to Matt Taibbi, and it's a great interview and you should check it out on Locals, it's up there in full right now.

00:45:22.000 We asked, do you think that there will be communities of exiles for free speech in the same way that there are, like, tax exiles around the world?

00:45:29.000 He said, oh, it'd be easier to live there, it's cheaper.

00:45:31.000 So I said, well, yeah, that's like the way the world is going now.

00:45:34.000 But free speech is being turned into a luxury rather than a right.

00:45:38.000 To the extent there is coordination on censorship globally, it is happening among elites who prefer a top-down globalist rather than a bottom-up internationalist agenda of governance.

00:45:46.000 The opposite of what the trend ought be.

00:45:49.000 The possibility now for decentralisation, self-governance, instantaneous communication, consensus achieved immediately over complex and nuanced issues is all being ignored in favour of centralised authoritarianism precisely because the alternative now exists.

00:46:04.000 They're legislating against it before it happens.

00:46:07.000 So don't lose hope because they are working very hard to prevent you awakening.

00:46:11.000 But they cannot stop it.

00:46:12.000 Recognising the reality of their unpopularity, they seek to scapegoat social media companies and seek their censorship.

00:46:18.000 In order to justify this, elites seek to turn every problem, whether it's riots in Paris, Covid-19 or climate change, into a crisis.

00:46:25.000 One that requires the dramatic curtailment of our civil liberties.

00:46:29.000 What an important statement Matt Taibbi ends on there.

00:46:33.000 Every crisis is used to curtail civil liberties, to advance the agenda of controlling often unelected authoritarian bodies.

00:46:42.000 Note this.

00:46:43.000 Hold it in mind.

00:46:44.000 Use it like a scalpel or a tool.

00:46:46.000 So when you get the information from the legacy media, you can say, hmm.

00:46:49.000 Are they using this now to legitimise authoritarian measures?

00:46:53.000 And usually you will find that they actually are, and that they'll use any crisis.

00:46:58.000 Even horrific wars, acts of terror, heartbreaking global scenarios that are almost impossible to hold in your mind, to them are merely fodder for advancing authoritarianism.

00:47:10.000 And that's at least how it seems to me.

00:47:11.000 So whether it's Joe Rogan commenting on what's happening in Canada, Elon Musk being written threatening letters by a French old lady grandma, bureaucrat, or the legacy media normalising these measures.

00:47:24.000 What we have is a global agenda, EU, Australia, Canada, UK, coming soon in the US, in Ireland, abilities to turn on microphones.

00:47:33.000 If this was some bizarre militaristic dude with like a bunch of medals on proposing this, you would be aghast.

00:47:40.000 Just imagine, imagine for a minute that this was all Donald Trump.

00:47:42.000 Imagine that you could attribute all this to Donald Trump.

00:47:44.000 Donald Trump wants to turn on Mike.

00:47:46.000 You'd be like, oh my God, it's true.

00:47:47.000 It's true.

00:47:48.000 That guy, he's a lunatic.

00:47:49.000 Let's get together.

00:47:51.000 But it's not.

00:47:51.000 It's all the haircut people.

00:47:52.000 Macron, Trudeau, Rishi Sunak, oh hi, look at us, we're modern, hey.

00:47:57.000 No values, no morality.

00:47:59.000 Puppets for a system that wants to centralise control, particularly control of surveillance and censorship through big tech apparatus that previously didn't exist.

00:48:07.000 But that's just what I think!

00:48:08.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the chat?

00:48:09.000 society be used to create potential utopias. Decentralized but unified

00:48:15.000 opposition to this globalist march is what we're proposing and that is simply

00:48:20.000 what we must have. But that's just what I think why don't you let me know what

00:48:23.000 you think in the chat. See you in a second.

00:48:27.000 So there you have it whether it's in Canada through new legislation or the EU

00:48:36.000 trying to silence me and you or the US with new proposed legislation.

00:48:42.000 In fact, let's not get ahead of it, that's not happening in the US yet, but how long before it does happen in the US?

00:48:46.000 Sorry I'm distracted, it's because I've got to deal with this little guy.

00:48:50.000 Now, one person who's likely to be subject to some pretty imperious and haughty judgment will be friend of the show, outspoken medic, medical doctor, campaigner, activist, and now filmmaker, Dr. Asim Malhotra.

00:49:07.000 Asim, I'm so happy to see you.

00:49:11.000 I'm even more happy to see you, mate.

00:49:13.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:49:15.000 I really wanted to get your perspective, first of all, on the medical knowledge is under commercial control.

00:49:24.000 I understand that's due to the way that fact checkers who are presented as objective are actually funded.

00:49:33.000 And also I'd love to get your perspective on what you think about this new,

00:49:36.000 like these various new censorship laws that are being passed around the world.

00:49:39.000 But go on, Asim, please tell me what you think about the fact checkers,

00:49:43.000 because I guess that intersects with censorship because it's ultimately about the control of information.

00:49:47.000 What information is amplified, what information is controlled.

00:49:52.000 So on the fact checker stuff, interestingly, Russell, I'm currently in the United States in Boston.

00:49:57.000 But I met someone in California recently at a social event who's actually quite senior in Meta.

00:50:04.000 And what they were telling me was essentially that the information that's coming out through Meta is carefully curated.

00:50:11.000 It is influenced by financial relationships that Meta has.

00:50:16.000 For example, not many people may be aware of this, but in 2021, Meta joined in partnership, putting in $20 million with drug company Merck to help control health information on their platform.

00:50:31.000 So what that means is, when we get these flags coming up, and I've had it on my Instagram, for example, saying that independent fact checkers have, you know, judged that this is breaching community guidelines and is, you know, you're spreading false information.

00:50:44.000 That line, independent fact checkers, is a complete and total lie.

00:50:48.000 And that has now been verified to me personally from someone senior in META.

00:50:51.000 So I think everybody needs to know that.

00:50:53.000 But coming back to what you said earlier about medical knowledge being under commercial control, Russell, That should be at the forefront of every doctor's minds and it's not.

00:51:02.000 And this has been an issue even pre-pandemic and what do I mean by this?

00:51:06.000 Just to give you some sort of bigger-picture figures here, you know, John Ioannidis is someone who I refer to as a Stephen Hawking-like figure of medicine.

00:51:14.000 He's the most cited medical researcher in the world.

00:51:16.000 He's a professor of medicine at Stanford.

00:51:19.000 And in 2006, he published a paper which was entitled, Why Most Published Research Findings are False.

00:51:25.000 And he said, the greater the financial interest in a given field, the less likely the research findings are to be true.

00:51:33.000 What does that mean?

00:51:33.000 In effect, doctors are making clinical decisions quite often, maybe most of the time, when it comes to prescription drugs on biased and corrupted information, where drug companies control the information that doctors get.

00:51:47.000 The doctors believe the information they're getting has been independently vetted and verified, and that is completely false.

00:51:52.000 So one of the barriers to improving the system is actually raising awareness amongst doctors that they need to be skeptical about what they read in medical journals.

00:52:02.000 I interviewed recently, Dr. Fiona Godley, editor of the BMJ.

00:52:06.000 She was quite open about this.

00:52:07.000 Now, it's something that's kind of a fact and should be well known, but it isn't properly acknowledged.

00:52:12.000 We have to understand that medical journals are also businesses.

00:52:15.000 But many doctors rely on medical journals as being like the gospel truth when it comes to sort of medical science, for example.

00:52:21.000 So once people start to understand these system failures, then it We can help.

00:52:25.000 It can help us, one, create solutions moving forward so we have greater transparency, we have better information.

00:52:31.000 We then improve quality care for patients and we improve people's health.

00:52:34.000 It's really not rocket science.

00:52:36.000 I'm astonished.

00:52:37.000 And if it were rocket science, it would be biased rocket science, where the financial interest of whether it was a viable commercial mission would be what determined whether it was undertaken or not.

00:52:46.000 Now, I think we all understand that there are commercial imperatives behind most aspects of life, but there is something fundamental here hypocritical and anti-hypocratic in pharmaceutical industry

00:52:56.000 having the kind of incentives it does.

00:52:58.000 I'm astonished to hear that, that there's almost a equation that can be made. The higher the

00:53:03.000 financial incentive, the less likely the information is to be viable. And I can't believe what you've

00:53:09.000 just conveyed, that Merck and Meta combined in order to create a factory.

00:53:15.000 Checking organization that can't get even to the end of the sentence that is a fact check without telling you a lie

00:53:22.000 It's not an independent fact. I mean, it's just Extraordinary that that's getting normalized. I feel like

00:53:28.000 in a sense a scene where we find ourselves is the kind of discourse that you might find among conspiracy theorists is

00:53:36.000 Or like, you know, just people that have been condemned online people that have been shared shamed is aside from

00:53:42.000 this Let's take hate speech out of the picture because no one

00:53:45.000 agrees with hate speech. It has mental We have laws for that that craziness should be dismissed.

00:53:51.000 But when it comes to like people that Cynical about the kind of drugs that they're taking.

00:53:55.000 Cynical about the incentives of pharmaceutical companies.

00:53:59.000 That's closer to the reality than the sort of ordinary neoliberal perspective that we're invited to convey.

00:54:07.000 And if we, uh, to accept, excuse me, when we, and it also shows the importance of independent media, because independent media is the only way you're going to get to attack these kind of narratives, and increasingly independent media is being shut down, and I know that you've, uh, Suffered yourself as a result of that.

00:54:23.000 Now, when America spends a significant portion of its GDP on healthcare and has bad health outcomes, what does that tell us?

00:54:32.000 What's happening with that expenditure?

00:54:33.000 Is it comparable to the military-industrial complex, which seems to require war in order to sustain its model?

00:54:40.000 Does America need Americans to be unhealthy to be economically efficient for the industries that ultimately fund and govern much of American policy?

00:54:53.000 Great question, Russell.

00:54:55.000 I think the first thing I'd say is very interesting.

00:54:57.000 So yesterday, I interviewed John Abramson, a lecturer at Harvard.

00:55:00.000 He's been involved in more drug litigation cases than probably any doctor on the planet.

00:55:05.000 And he wrote a book called Sickening How Big Pharma Broke American Healthcare.

00:55:08.000 And what he said to me was quite interesting.

00:55:10.000 He said that America has really shown it's been a natural experiment At the extreme end of what happens when you commercialize medical knowledge.

00:55:21.000 And look at what's happened, as you said already.

00:55:22.000 It's the highest expenditure in wealthy countries when it comes to GDP on healthcare, with the worst health outcomes.

00:55:29.000 They're losing years off their life expectancy, even pre-pandemic.

00:55:32.000 They've lost at least two years off their life expectancy by 2019.

00:55:34.000 They've got more people with chronic disease in any Western country.

00:55:39.000 So their health is getting worse.

00:55:41.000 And that really is a great example of what happens when you allow drug companies, as you've alluded to already, big corporations whose only interest is profit, not to give the best treatment, to control the information.

00:55:54.000 And what that means exaggerating the safety and benefits of their drugs.

00:55:58.000 And just for people to understand this in a bit more depth, One estimate from a very prestigious, eminent scientist called Dr. Peter Gerscher, co-founder of the Cochrane Collaboration, a few years ago, he said that the third most common cause of death globally after heart disease and cancer is prescribed medications.

00:56:21.000 What your doctor prescribes for you because of those very reasons.

00:56:24.000 So I think those absolutely are at the heart of the problem.

00:56:27.000 And I think that also comes back to this neoliberal economic model you mentioned.

00:56:32.000 I think the roots of where the acceleration of these problems have started actually is from this neoliberal economic model that was promulgated by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

00:56:43.000 And Milton Friedman, as you know, Russell, the Nobel Prize-winning economist who was the brainchild behind that, he in effect said that in the book The Corporation written by law professor Joel Buchan.

00:56:53.000 He said it is immoral He said it is immoral for big corporations to put people before profits.

00:57:00.000 Think about that for a second.

00:57:01.000 If you've got that kind of culture and mindset within business, it helps explain why we are where we are.

00:57:06.000 And of course, we've even seen that come out with, you know, being exposed probably to the greatest level we will ever see with the mandating of the COVID mRNA vaccines.

00:57:17.000 In a way you are one of those like we've been speaking for a while we've been speaking since early in the pandemic and in a way you you were a cardiologist as I understand your father was a cardiologist your conversion your your father was a GP, that your conversion has been a very

00:57:36.000 sort of personal and very public one and like any professional in

00:57:40.000 the field of medicine or law there's a kind of a requirement that you have some

00:57:44.000 faith in these institutions and the body of knowledge and the legitimacy

00:57:49.000 of those bodies. How is it?

00:57:52.000 What has been your process from like being someone that would be able to appear on legacy media and talk in alignment with let's call it the agenda of these institutions to someone that's now regarded as a radical outsider and often attacked and that there are attempts to shut you down and aspects of your work that we'll talk about in more detail.

00:58:14.000 What's changed?

00:58:15.000 Have you changed or has the world changed?

00:58:19.000 What's happened?

00:58:20.000 Because I've had, in a sense, a comparable journey from someone on the inside of the entertainment industry to someone that's an outsider and then a pariah.

00:58:28.000 So, like, can you tell me what exactly do you think's happened?

00:58:32.000 Yeah, Russell.

00:58:33.000 So my values haven't changed.

00:58:34.000 I mean, I was, you know, I'm very proud to be a doctor.

00:58:36.000 I was trained in the NHS.

00:58:38.000 I qualified from Edinburgh Medical School.

00:58:41.000 I'm obsessed with medical ethics.

00:58:42.000 I was brought up by two wonderful, loving parents who've sadly passed in the last few years, both doctors who instilled into me a value that my primary duty was service to the community, not for personal financial gain.

00:58:54.000 So this is who I am at my core anyway.

00:58:56.000 But of course, I went into a profession which I think, I would like to think epitomizes those values.

00:59:01.000 And in fact, you know, in the late 90s, after the cash for questions scandal, an inquiry that was put forward by john major, Lead by Lord Nolan, guidelines came out for all those in public life should adhere to something called the seven Nolan principles.

00:59:17.000 So these are politicians, doctors, teachers, the police, and those seven principles are always at the heart of everything I do.

00:59:25.000 Selflessness, objectivity, integrity, accountability, honesty, openness, and leadership.

00:59:30.000 So I've always adhered to that I have a, you know, a very special interest in how to optimize people's mental, physical and social well being.

00:59:38.000 That's what the definition of health really is.

00:59:40.000 It was actually, you know, defined originally by the World Health Organization in 1948.

00:59:45.000 That's before they got captured by the corporations.

00:59:49.000 And I also look at it from my own perspective as well, Russell.

00:59:52.000 We go through our own journeys.

00:59:53.000 I also, for myself, someone who wants to lead the best possible life I can lead by optimising those three facets of health, I look inwardly as well.

01:00:04.000 And what I've seen happen over the last few years, certainly during the pandemic, is that the world seems to have been more under the influence of these corporations.

01:00:14.000 So I think, you know, one of the things I've talked about to help people understand the determinants of health is a concept which is a derivation from the commercial determinants of health, which is defined as, you know, commercial determinants of health is basically strategies and approaches adopted by the private sector To promote products and choices that are damaging or detrimental to health.

01:00:38.000 That's what the definition is in public health.

01:00:41.000 I would go further and say, actually, what's happening quite often is that these big powerful corporations, in order to make money, are actually behaving like psychopaths.

01:00:49.000 And this comes from Robert Hare, forensic psychologist.

01:00:51.000 So if you think about what does that mean?

01:00:52.000 Callous and concern for the safety of others, incapacity to experience guilt, deceitfulness, lying and conning others for profit.

01:01:00.000 And that's what we are now experiencing.

01:01:01.000 But it's not just about how it affects our health.

01:01:04.000 We have created a culture that has corporatized human beings as well, Russell.

01:01:08.000 So what does that mean when we look inwardly?

01:01:10.000 We also have to think about what does it mean to be human?

01:01:12.000 And you can't lead the good and happy life unless you act from a place of virtue.

01:01:16.000 I know you understand this very well.

01:01:17.000 And it's also acknowledging about the fact that, you know, I think the line between good and evil runs through every human heart.

01:01:23.000 And in the right circumstances, as Jordan Peterson has very eloquently pointed out, you know, potentially all of us could be that, you know, concentration camp guard, potentially in the right circumstances.

01:01:34.000 We have to acknowledge that we have the capacity to do great harm, but at the same time, we also have the capacity to do great good.

01:01:40.000 And I think once people reach inwardly, and we have this discussion more openly, we can activate everybody to shift over from the dark side to the lighter side to, you know, paraphrase something from maybe Star Wars.

01:01:53.000 Covered a lot of territory there.

01:01:54.000 It's interesting, we ended up at Star Wars, Asim, as we always must.

01:01:58.000 I'm going to drag Eric Schmidt back into this conversation, whose binary models were based on the convenience and power of having an othered group in order to create authority.

01:02:14.000 As long as you have an in-group and an out-group, you're able to mobilize and utilize hatred.

01:02:19.000 It's peculiar to observe this incremental encroachment on our values because of course many people, and our viewers will be aware of this, this is why it's important we have independent media and it's important that we have conversations like this.

01:02:31.000 You will know people that read stuff in the legacy media and believe it, that feel that really what happened in the pandemic period was people were trying their best, there were one or two slip-ups, but now increasingly it seems that what's being revealed is a degree of Institutional corruption?

01:02:50.000 Deception?

01:02:51.000 Here, just let me give you a few examples, Asim, that I know you'll be familiar with.

01:02:55.000 Matt Taibbi's recent revelations that Anthony Fauci potentially was deliberately biasing many reports that coming out of the CIA and numerous other agencies about the origin of the virus.

01:03:08.000 Pfizer's recent press release around myocarditis, particularly in certain demographics, if you

01:03:16.000 imagine for a moment that the information that can be openly discussed now could be

01:03:20.000 open, could have been openly discussed at the beginning of the pandemic, instead of

01:03:24.000 censored, instead of controlled, we could have had entirely different outcomes.

01:03:28.000 It's seeming now increasingly ridiculous that Anthony Fauci was presented as the voice of

01:03:34.000 objectivity, a kind of Willy Wonka of science, or by his own declaration, a kind of embodiment

01:03:39.000 and epitomisation of science.

01:03:41.000 I'm citing his remarks to Rand Paul in that Congressional hearing.

01:03:45.000 We've learned so much, things have changed so much, and yet so many people are on the other side of a line, believing it's possible to trust legacy media, to trust these institutions, to grant more authoritarian powers of control.

01:03:58.000 To whether it's the EU advancing censorship as we discussed in our item just now, or any government nation or unelected bodies.

01:04:08.000 The proposed WHO treaty for future pandemics is on the horizon right now.

01:04:12.000 Can you touch on a few of those ideas that in a sense are snowballing, awakening the accumulation now of a body of evidence that makes it simply impossible for us to blithely or blindly trust these institutions that are plainly lying to us?

01:04:29.000 Yeah, I think, you know, what's happened in the last few years, Russell, and what's continuing to happen is that people were gripped by very strong psychological fear type phenomenon.

01:04:44.000 With the original COVID pandemic, you know, we all had those, I think, feelings, most of us certainly had those feelings of fear at the very beginning when we didn't know what we were dealing with.

01:04:54.000 And what happens when you're in a state of fear is two things happen.

01:04:57.000 One is it inhibits your ability to engage in critical thinking.

01:05:01.000 But also it meets populations and people more compliant.

01:05:06.000 And of course, that allows governments to exert their power in an even stronger way.

01:05:11.000 I think mistakes were made.

01:05:12.000 I think we alluded to this.

01:05:13.000 I don't think that, you know, conspiracies occasionally come true.

01:05:16.000 But I think this was really a massive cock-up.

01:05:19.000 And it was exploited by a system that was already, I would say, anti-democratic and a system, certainly when it comes to health, that was not looking after people's mental and social well-being.

01:05:30.000 And now we're having to deal with the end result of it.

01:05:32.000 Having said that, You know, I think that there has been.

01:05:37.000 And Russell, you're somebody that I think is extremely articulate and very powerful with your words, not just in terms of the intellect behind what you say, but also the compassion that comes through.

01:05:51.000 I think that it only takes a few people to be dedicated to spreading the truth for it to emerge.

01:05:57.000 And we have lost, to some degree, that ability through the mainstream media to get these messages out.

01:06:03.000 And we're having to use alternative media.

01:06:05.000 But it's having a huge impact.

01:06:07.000 And we can see, to some degree, that impact from the fact that when you look at the issue around COVID boosters, for example, there's very, very low uptake now.

01:06:16.000 I mean, we're talking about single digit percentage figures here.

01:06:20.000 So I think that we just have to keep moving forward.

01:06:23.000 And I also take a philosophical view of all of this.

01:06:26.000 I met Robert Kennedy Jr.

01:06:28.000 at the end of last year.

01:06:30.000 And I'm doing a talk with him at the end of this month in San Jose.

01:06:34.000 And he said something which resonated with me.

01:06:36.000 He said, when you speak the truth, you have to let go of the outcome.

01:06:40.000 And but having said that, I think that we just have to keep moving forward.

01:06:44.000 And I think this corporate tyrannical bubble will burst.

01:06:46.000 And one day we'll wake up in the morning and think, bloody hell, you know, we didn't expect that to happen so quickly, but it will happen.

01:06:52.000 We just have to keep moving forward.

01:06:53.000 You know, to quote Martin Luther King, you know, if you can't drive, you run.

01:06:55.000 If you can't run, you walk.

01:06:57.000 If you can't walk, you crawl.

01:06:58.000 Just keep moving forward.

01:06:59.000 Wow, nice.

01:07:01.000 I know that you're appearing at that Reclaiming the Food and Medicine conference with Bobby Kennedy and Vandana Shiva, two people that are former guests of our show.

01:07:13.000 Please God, future guests of the show.

01:07:15.000 Both, I would say, heroes of this movement.

01:07:20.000 Now, Bobby Kennedy, you know, he has some pretty powerful views.

01:07:23.000 On this show he spoke about the, you know, that in a sense the vaccine program was a military one.

01:07:27.000 Vandana Shiva, like, you know, I've never met anyone who's so willing to go out on a limb when it comes to criticizing the globalist agenda, who'll go out there and literally say that Bill Gates's role is, you know, like she'll use words that I don't feel I'd be able to use to describe the agenda of Bill Gates.

01:07:45.000 How do you feel appearing on that platform and this kind of alliance that's emerging this kind of could you call it a resistance movement?

01:07:54.000 Does that inspire the kind of optimism that you alluded to in your last answer?

01:08:00.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:08:00.000 Russell, I feel privileged.

01:08:01.000 I feel privileged right now to be speaking to you.

01:08:03.000 I feel privileged to have a platform and a role to be able to disseminate, you know, my views on how we can improve people's health and well being and democracy.

01:08:13.000 But of course, you know, I think these are massive giants in this movement to reclaim democracy.

01:08:19.000 Robert Kennedy, Jr.

01:08:20.000 and of course, Vandana Shiva and what the conference is hopefully going to, you know, it's gonna be a five hour event and It's going to cover a lot of areas.

01:08:27.000 It's going to get to the root causes of the problems in a rational way.

01:08:30.000 It's going to empower people with what they can do to help improve their own health, but also to help them understand that the interaction with the people around them, the communities and policies, are also going to be beneficial for them.

01:08:44.000 We don't live in cocoons.

01:08:46.000 You can't live a healthy life while the world around you is burning.

01:08:49.000 And unfortunately, the rest of the world around is burning.

01:08:52.000 But I actually look at it also from a very strategic point of view.

01:08:54.000 There's an approach framework that was developed in Thailand called the Triangle that Moves the Mountain.

01:09:00.000 And there are three components that need to be strengthened.

01:09:02.000 So we move this mountain away from this corporate tyranny to something much brighter and better.

01:09:07.000 And that basically means creating relevant knowledge or strengthening the knowledge, dissemination of a greater truth.

01:09:13.000 The social movement.

01:09:15.000 So that information has to be disseminated to people on the ground.

01:09:18.000 That can be through mainstream media, it can be through alternative media, it can be through conversations with friends and family.

01:09:23.000 And last but not least, it needs political engagement.

01:09:26.000 Because ultimately, what we're dealing with here, the reason we've got to this position, Russell, is because of unjust, unethical, and undemocratic laws that have allowed these big corporations to gain so much power.

01:09:38.000 And therefore, the politicians are the ones ultimately to have the power to change those laws.

01:09:43.000 So I see this event, in my view, this is perhaps the most important health event this year, in the US, perhaps in the world, to be able to bring all that information together and articulate it in a way that resonates with people on the ground.

01:09:59.000 Excellent.

01:10:00.000 Tell me a bit about your new documentary, First Do No Farm.

01:10:05.000 Nice pun.

01:10:06.000 How you've been promoting it on platforms like X and of course Rumble and that I understand Joe Rogan's support in it.

01:10:14.000 Can you tell me about the significance in independent media when it comes to promoting anti-establishment ideas?

01:10:20.000 I've been fond of saying lately that The role of the media is to amplify and normalize the message of the establishment.

01:10:28.000 A kind of simple example of the normalization would of course be the pandemic period.

01:10:32.000 They normalized the agenda of the establishment.

01:10:35.000 You could even take something like when Facebook or Meta launch a new product like those crazy little glasses that are going to give you an augmented reality experience.

01:10:43.000 They report on it like it's news.

01:10:45.000 Like, these glasses, they retail at $49.99!

01:10:48.000 They present it as if it's news, when they're simply normalising a new product, in just the same way that conventional commercials would work.

01:10:56.000 Can you tell me, what is the significance of, like, truly independent figures, and please, may this independence remain, when it comes to promoting anti-establishment ideas?

01:11:06.000 How integral is it?

01:11:09.000 It's extremely important, Russell.

01:11:12.000 I would say I believe in the power of film and documentaries.

01:11:14.000 It's another platform to reach people's hearts and minds.

01:11:18.000 I co-produced a documentary film several years ago called The Big Fat Fix.

01:11:22.000 Many people may not have heard of it, but it had impact because it premiered in British Parliament.

01:11:28.000 It influenced sugar reduction policies.

01:11:30.000 I was a campaigner considered the lead campaigner behind the sugary drinks tax, and that was a very useful vehicle to get information to policymakers, including people like Jeremy Hunt, Tom Watson, who's a deputy leader of the Labour Party.

01:11:42.000 You know, so I see this, and interestingly, by the way, at that time, Russell, and I still hope there's a chance that we get it into mainstream media, but we'll use whatever mechanism of getting out there we can, you know, it was actually covered on BBC World News and the New York Times, when that film was first released.

01:11:57.000 We crowdfunded it because we didn't want any commercial influence.

01:12:00.000 And we're doing the same thing with this one.

01:12:02.000 Currently, crowdfunding still ongoing, we're still about, you know, we're doing filming, we're interviewing some brilliant people, we're still about $350,000 short of target, but hopefully over the next few months, we will get to that we'll get there with with, you know, various big donors coming in.

01:12:16.000 I spoke about and Joe Rogan for the first time, Joe said that he's going to promote it when it's out, you know, we're going to try and hit people all around the world.

01:12:23.000 I've got a network of politicians in and people all over Whether it's Australia, whether it's UK, whether it's the United States.

01:12:31.000 So, you know, for me, once we've produced, my first and primary focus is to produce a brilliant product that's very strong in its message.

01:12:38.000 And then it's about hitting the influencers and hitting the mainstream.

01:12:42.000 Are you going to do the voice?

01:12:46.000 Well, it's going to be either me or it's going to be my co-producer, Donald O'Neill, who's got a very nice, strong Northern Irish accent as well.

01:12:53.000 So I think it'll probably be both of us, but we'll see how that goes.

01:12:56.000 Be nice to have a combination.

01:12:57.000 Maybe you can do some of the on-camera stuff and then use that Northern Irish lilt to get some of the voiceover rocking along.

01:13:04.000 Do you feel that when you're crowdfunding for a project like this that is by its very nature at odds with many of the Primary and determining interests in particular of American political life that you might find yourself at odds with the establishment like when you've like talking about that project where you could have a screening in parliament and it's sort of anti-sugar it's like you start to identify where the line might be that there are certain causes that can be promoted and discussed and and of course it changes over time even perhaps the legislation that's been passed in the U.S.

01:13:40.000 recently the Anti-Big Pharma Bill so called and so surmised by Joe Biden when you break it down only includes about six medicines.

01:13:51.000 It's not kicking in till 2026.

01:13:53.000 It's when you get into it something that's presented as a Big Pharma Bill likely had Big Pharma's fingerprints all over it when it came to its creation.

01:14:05.000 Likewise, a documentary like your former one where you sort of speak out against sugar and the dangers of sugar, like a message that should be heard for anyone interested in heart disease and cancer and diabetes and the impact of sugar on human health and the fact that it would probably be regarded as a drug if it was, you know, if it was discovered and popularized now.

01:14:22.000 You feel like there's a lot more scope to discuss that.

01:14:25.000 Are you in a climate where You know you sort of grey zone get a lot of their content demonetized and their own crowdfunding shut down or the trucker protests had you know experienced their funding getting shut down and even the bank accounts of people that donated to that fund were interfered with.

01:14:41.000 Do you feel that there's a sort of line that you if you cross it you ain't gonna be having no cozy dinners with politicians you know?

01:14:51.000 Yeah, potentially, Russell, but it doesn't stop me from trying.

01:14:54.000 And I still believe in the power of conversations.

01:14:56.000 And I think most people, again, want to do good, hate injustice, and they want the truth.

01:15:04.000 And, you know, I think that there is, unfortunately, an understandable tendency for things to get so polarized that people get very angry and think that people are deliberately trying to harm them.

01:15:16.000 I would go back to ancient wisdom of people like Socrates and the Buddha.

01:15:20.000 Socrates said, evil is rooted in ignorance.

01:15:23.000 And then Stephen Hawking said, well, what's worse, an ignorance, the illusion of knowledge.

01:15:26.000 So I think that we can, you know, it needs compassionate courage to have those conversations.

01:15:33.000 I still believe the power.

01:15:35.000 Interestingly, I won't name this person, but I met recently someone very senior in government when Boris Johnson was prime minister, who is now completely u-turned in their own mind, understanding the problems and the issues about the COVID vaccine and lockdowns, for example.

01:15:49.000 But on their own, they kind of feel almost powerless, even though they're very big, big name person, but powerless to act on this.

01:15:57.000 So we have to collectively change hearts and minds.

01:16:01.000 And I think that the more people that become aware of what's really going on, I think we'll reach a tipping point where suddenly, people will feel more comfortable to be able to speak out when they realize if that by being silent, Ultimately, this becomes self-destructive for them and for people around them.

01:16:17.000 And that's really the message that we're trying to convey.

01:16:19.000 That's cool.

01:16:20.000 It's like you feel that there will be, in a sense, this is where we as individuals must take responsibility for our own conduct and outlook.

01:16:29.000 that if we can awaken to the point where we're open-hearted to people in

01:16:33.000 positions of power, it's very easy for example in my job and having had the

01:16:37.000 experiences that I've accrued since speaking out against the establishment

01:16:41.000 in a very overt way, to start to regard them as almost, and even the word them

01:16:46.000 is telling, like regard them as almost sort of like if not evil then utterly

01:16:53.000 It's difficult to sort of think of like, you know, so as I sort of remember that like Joe Biden, like lost a child in a car accident, and like he lost his first wife, you know, and I've started to think, okay, these are human beings.

01:17:02.000 It's hard to hold together that level of humanity, but you can't really make anything from rage and hatred, like other than Absolutely.

01:17:14.000 So I think you're right.

01:17:17.000 We have to somehow hold all of this information, experience what we experience when we speak out in the manner that we do, and then somehow have an open heart.

01:17:27.000 So in a sense, you're saying that those seven principles, which you sort of, it sounds like have been inverted by many people in positions of institutional or corporate power, like in, you know, that psychopathic paradigm that you used.

01:17:39.000 We have to somehow, would you say, approach this from a spiritual perspective?

01:17:43.000 I know that both Vandana Shiva and Bobby see the world in those terms.

01:17:47.000 What about you?

01:17:49.000 A hundred percent.

01:17:50.000 I've had my own suffering in the last few years with losing both my parents prematurely, and I had to dig deep.

01:17:54.000 I actually found a lot of comfort and strength in Buddhist philosophy, for example.

01:17:58.000 On that, Russell, people know about the concept of breaking bad, but we don't talk about breaking good so often.

01:18:05.000 In fact, one of the most amazing stories for me historically is the story of King Ashoka of India, who was a despotic king who would torture people who were dissidents against his political ideology, created wars, killed many, many people.

01:18:23.000 And 200 years after the death of Buddha, he came across Buddha's teachings, and it suddenly transformed him.

01:18:29.000 He had an epiphany moment.

01:18:31.000 He stopped capital punishment.

01:18:32.000 He stopped animal sacrifice.

01:18:34.000 He sent people out on missions around the world, outside India, to spread Buddhism outside India.

01:18:40.000 And in fact, you can credit the spread of Buddhism outside India, probably because of Ashoka.

01:18:45.000 So for me, that is an amazing, powerful story about the power of human beings to transform.

01:18:50.000 That's beautiful that what could unfurl from apparent evil is beauty.

01:18:56.000 That transformation, redemption, salvation, awakening and enlightenment are possible for all of us and we shouldn't foreclose on that possibility even for those that we regard as opponents.

01:19:06.000 What a powerful message Asim.

01:19:08.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:19:09.000 Thanks for your great work.

01:19:10.000 Congratulations on your success.

01:19:12.000 Certainly we'll be supporting Your film will post the crowdfunding for that here until it's inevitably shut down by the system.

01:19:20.000 No, don't become cynical.

01:19:22.000 Don't become cynical.

01:19:23.000 And I would suggest that you go see Dr. Hossein Malhotra in San Jose on October 28th.

01:19:28.000 That's an incredible bill.

01:19:30.000 And of course, follow The Great Doctor on X if you can.

01:19:34.000 Thanks, Doc, for joining us again.

01:19:37.000 Thank you, Russell.

01:19:38.000 Thank you so much.

01:19:39.000 Well done, mate.

01:19:40.000 Thanks a lot.

01:19:40.000 Take it easy.

01:19:41.000 Cheers now.

01:19:42.000 What a conversation that was.

01:19:43.000 What a joy it is to speak to people that are as committed and as devoted and as open-hearted and as open-minded as Dr. Asim Malhotra.

01:19:50.000 Let me know in the chat if you enjoyed that conversation.

01:19:54.000 And of course, go check out those various projects of his, the movie and the talk with Vandana and Bobby Kennedy.

01:20:01.000 Hey!

01:20:03.000 This show might be drawing to a conclusion, but there is so much revolution left in me.

01:20:09.000 There is so much desire for awakening.

01:20:12.000 And I know you, watching us on Rumble right now, feel it as well.

01:20:16.000 I know that you are beginning to look beyond the divisions.

01:20:19.000 I know that you are beginning to see beyond the inculcated hatred that's raining down upon us to a new, potential, unified, Yet decentralized movement where we will change the world together.

01:20:33.000 And tomorrow we're going to be talking to Ted Walters, who he's got some inside information on 9-11.

01:20:38.000 I mean, this is what it says here.

01:20:40.000 It says 9-11 and what really happened.

01:20:42.000 I mean, that sounds like a recipe to get us all slung in jail.

01:20:45.000 Let's hope that Ted Walker, is it Ted Walker?

01:20:48.000 Is that his name?

01:20:49.000 Conducts this conversation with some Ted Walters.

01:20:52.000 Thank you, Ted Walters.

01:20:53.000 We're going to be talking to him about 9-11 and what really happened.

01:20:56.000 I imagine we'll be gently tiptoeing through that to ensure that we're not only not de-platformed but de-not-imprisoned.

01:21:05.000 Hey, you can click the red Awaken button if you want to support us.

01:21:08.000 You know what Locals is about.

01:21:10.000 Here, we are pointing out the problems.

01:21:12.000 On Locals, we are moving towards solutions, whether that's creating new communities, discussing ideas that are going to change the world, chatting together, getting your intel on what you believe is the recipe for a revolutionary new community.

01:21:28.000 We've got to get past the stage of conflict and into the realm of solution.

01:21:32.000 You are already an awakened wonder.

01:21:35.000 We're merely waiting for the moment of shared elevation together.

01:21:38.000 Plus you get like extended interviews, meditations, readings, and a whole variety of things.

01:21:42.000 And some recent supporters include MagomiloRider64, Cdub, RufusRucker6506, a lot of numbers involved there I suppose.

01:21:50.000 There's a A lot of variety to contend with.

01:21:53.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:21:54.000 Thank you for supporting what we do.

01:21:56.000 You know how important it is now.

01:21:58.000 You see what's happening around us.

01:21:59.000 We must awaken together.

01:22:01.000 We must form these new communities.

01:22:03.000 We must build this movement together.

01:22:05.000 Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same.

01:22:07.000 I would never insult you with that kind of vile junk, but for more of the different.

01:22:12.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.

01:22:23.000 Man he switchin', switch on, switch on.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - October 18, 2023

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