In the latest episode of Conspiracy Theories, we re-unite with Alex Blumberg to discuss the recent events in Ukraine, including the ousting of Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the new Prime Minister of the UK, Rishi Sunak. We re also joined by Callie Means to talk about Big Food, Big Pharma, and Big Pharma's systemic biases and corruption in order to keep us all tubby and unwell. And we ll be piecing together a new narrative about who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, and how that plays into some fascinating relationships between Russia and Europe and how the long-standing tensions between the West and Russia have been exacerbated by NATO infringement and NATO infringement. And, of course, we'll be talking about a new conspiracy theory about who could be responsible for the attack on the pipeline and why it might have been done by a certain slovenly laptop owner. Who could it be? We ll be talking all about it! The Dark Side Of is on all of the social medias, including Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your news and information. If you like what you get, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and become a supporter of the Dark Side of the Force by becoming a patron! We re listening to Dark Side Media wherever you re listening. Thank you for listening and sharing the podcast. We really appreciate it. Peace & Love, Eternally grateful. -Eugene and Cheers, Jon Soraya Jon Sorrentino and the crew at The Light Side Of The Forceprint -Jon Sorrenta.co.nz/The Light Side of The Force . Jon and Jon and the team at The Truth Project Jonathan and the Crew at The Intelligence Project at The Conspiracy Theory Project at Conspiracy Theory Project at the Conspiracy Conspiracy Podcast. Jon is working on a new podcast about all things conspiracies, conspiracy theories, conspiracy theory, and all things conspiracy and conspiracies and all kinds of stuff. , and we hope you enjoy it. Thank you, Jon is looking forward to hearing from you! Jon, Jon, too! -Sebastian, Tom, Michael, , Callie, and Callie and the rest of the crew , Caitie Means Caitie, David, and Jack, Alex, and the gang at The Deep State
00:01:43.000Thanks for joining us on this voyage towards truth and freedom.
00:01:46.000Wherever you're watching this right now, the whole show will only be available on Rumble because there's a point where the truth flows through us so fast that the only way to stop it will be to bomb that pipeline from the Lord directly to thine ears.
00:02:00.000A little bit like the Nord Stream pipeline.
00:02:13.000We'll be talking about his article and these breakthroughs and we'll be piecing together a new narrative about who blew up that Nord Stream pipeline.
00:02:21.000Also, this will only be visible on Rumble because we'll have clicked right off of YouTube, Twitter, etc.
00:02:28.000We're talking about Ukrainian corruption and one of the oligarchs who's been booted off the scene had interesting connections to a certain slovenly laptop owner.
00:02:38.000We'll also have Callie Means on the show talking to us about Big Food and Big Pharma organizing systemic biases and corruption in order to, well, get us all tubby and unwell and such like, in order to keep some sort of, I suppose, conveyor belt of ill health.
00:02:53.000First low, Ukrainian leader Zelensky, Vladimir, or as Justin Trudeau would have it, Vladimir Zelensky, is in the UK potentially getting every single fighter jet we've got to not fight in a proxy war.
00:03:21.000What's Boris even doing talking about it anymore?
00:03:24.000He's not going on about this stuff, mate.
00:03:26.000If you don't know this, in our country, we won't let him be Prime Minister anymore because he keeps decorating his house on the sly, charging us for it.
00:03:32.000Holding parties throughout the lockdown, which Rishi Sunak went to.
00:03:35.000It's extraordinary, these people, the way that they're allowed to be in charge.
00:03:38.000It's also a bit weird that he's calling for all these typhoon jets, which I think Zelensky's calling wings of freedom.
00:03:44.000Last time I Uh, understood a bit about fighter jets is they contain EXPLOSIVES.
00:03:51.000But yeah, Boris, as we, you know, know by, uh, uh, that Israeli former prime minister, uh, Naftali Bennett the other week about, um, you know, Boris literally stopped peace talks.
00:04:02.000So it's a strange thing now that he's going.
00:04:06.000He disrupted those peace talks for reasons that we cannot yet explain.
00:04:11.000Some might imagine it's because there were still profits to be extracted from the situation.
00:04:17.000There are still military industrial complex profits to be made.
00:04:20.000There's still potential for big tech and surveillance advantages to be exacted and enacted upon a potentially 100% digital Ukraine after the war.
00:04:31.000One thing For sure is that Boris Johnson will be fuming that he ain't Prime Minister no more because he's lost the opportunity to go on a series of like peculiar PR photo ops with the Prime Minister and now of course he's Rishi Sunak.
00:04:44.000He doesn't look comfortable in the role.
00:04:46.000I think he looks preppy and awkward and I think a lot of other leaders are turned on by and intimidated by Zelensky because he's a wartime leader.
00:05:02.000Look at them grinning there doing selfies and that.
00:05:04.000Like, all the while through these images, why don't you say to yourself mentally, there's a war on, there's a war on, there's a war on, there's a war on, there's a war on.
00:05:12.000Why are you grinning and enjoying yourself so much while discussing this stuff?
00:05:16.000There's a war on, there's a war on, there's a war on, there's a war on.
00:05:19.000Also of course, Zelensky is currently afforded unique status and I'm in no position to say
00:05:23.000that he's anything other than a heroic leader while being attacked by a foreign aggressor
00:05:28.000that's doubtlessly a much more powerful nation, although there are alternative narratives
00:05:32.000available for what exacerbated tensions between Russia and the West and the NATO infringement
00:05:38.000arguments and we'll be talking about the Nord Stream pipeline in some detail later
00:05:42.000and how that plays into the relationships between Russia and Europe and how America
00:05:46.000have long wanted to intercede in those relationships.
00:05:49.000This is all fascinating stuff, but for now let's just focus on Zelensky's unique positioning
00:05:55.000in the media as a solely heroic figure.
00:05:59.000This is a mainstream media article from the 3rd of October 2021, obviously prior to the war, where Zelensky was talked of as just another Ukrainian leader.
00:06:44.000He's maybe not that different from anyone we could mention.
00:06:47.000We've just literally named Boris Johnson.
00:06:49.000report. Well exactly it's not to say that world leaders you know aren't corrupt in
00:06:54.000general, he's maybe not that different from anyone we could mention we've just
00:06:58.000literally named Boris Johnson we know all the stuff that's going on around
00:07:00.000with Joe Biden at the moment so it's not to say that there aren't other corrupt
00:07:04.000world leaders but it is to say that there's more complexity than someone
00:07:08.000just appearing at the Golden Globes and casting in the way that like Sean Penn
00:07:12.000gave him an Oscar that he was some kind of heroic I mean I guess he's lucky
00:07:16.000still heroic, it's not as simple as it is. It is a unique...
00:07:19.000Situation when you're not an actor or anything or even like a sound technician or a makeup artist and you get given an Oscar for being in a war.
00:07:28.000That's not even what the Oscars are normally about.
00:07:31.000So it's an extraordinary presentation.
00:07:33.000And I would say an attempt to reduce the complexity of the argument to simple psychological notions, philosophical, theological ideas of good and evil, denying the complexity of the situation, a complexity that we'll be examining while looking at the Nord Stream pipeline case.
00:07:49.000We're going to be slipping off just onto Rumble in a minute, particularly when we talk about the oligarchical connection between the most powerful family.
00:07:55.000Is it the most powerful family in America?
00:07:57.000Who do you think is the most powerful family in America?
00:07:58.000Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments.
00:08:03.000A lot of questions come to the forefront.
00:08:05.000There's been a new article about the Nord Stream pipeline leakages and who benefits from it.
00:08:11.000Allegations have been levelled by the US, Russia, Poland and other players.
00:08:14.000Let's see if we can, like the greatest British detective in history, Sherlock Holmes, deduce who could have blown up that Nord Stream pipeline.
00:08:27.000I understand that Russia get 45% of their annual Well that would have been the case for Nord Stream 2.
00:08:34.000It was going to be extremely profitable because of the deals they were going to do with Germany.
00:08:38.000In a sense, Nord Stream 2 was their avatar too.
00:08:41.000It was a sequel to their earlier pipeline but it was still going to be highly profitable.
00:08:46.000So if Russia can't have blown up that pipeline because not only was it financially necessary for them, it was also strategically necessary to maintain good relationships with Europe who were getting their natural gas supplies from Russia Potentially for a considerable amount of time.
00:09:01.000Let's have a look at who else could have blown up that pipeline.
00:10:39.000Induced by a globalist system that wants us all dumb and distracted, are we?
00:10:43.000Hypnotized by centralist interests, we all heard Joe Biden say we will end that Nord Stream pipeline.
00:10:50.000But that's not motive enough, or it's certainly not evidence enough.
00:10:53.000Let's see if way back in 2014, secretaries of state were talking about the energy relationships between the United States and Europe and potential competition with Russia.
00:11:03.000You want to depend more on the North American energy platform, the tremendous bounty of oil and gas that we're finding in North America.
00:11:24.000Now these are all interesting pieces of evidence.
00:11:26.000That's evidence that America had an imperative to form relationships between Europe and the States when it comes to the purchase of national energy.
00:11:33.000Joe Biden said that he will end the Nord Stream pipeline too, particularly in the event of war.
00:11:40.000But we've saved the best of the investigative journalists to last.
00:11:43.000A man who's not yet won a Pulitzer Prize but Surely, if these conspiracy theories keep flowing, it's only a matter of time.
00:11:49.000This is from my interview with former Navy SEAL Jocko Willink, where I asked him outright, is it possible to blow up a pipeline under the water if you're a Navy SEAL?
00:11:59.000One of the things they said around the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is it wouldn't be possible that America don't have the submersive capacity.
00:12:07.000In the Baltic Sea, at a level of 200 feet, purely hypothetically, Would it be possible for a special forces team to undertake the sabotage of a pipeline?
00:12:21.000Yeah, seemed almost offended by the question.
00:12:25.000Draco Willink, that great big testosterone comet, that great blazing mighty meteorite of testosterone was offended by the question.
00:12:36.000Here is the article that's provoked this interest by Seymour Hersh.
00:12:40.000Last June the Navy divers Operating under the cover of a widely publicised mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22 planted the remotely triggered explosives that three months later destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.
00:13:13.000Well, like if they publicly say, if Biden publicly says we're going to blow up that pipeline, they don't have to go via Congress for a covert operation.
00:13:24.000So it wasn't a mistake for Biden to go, yeah, we'll blow it up, and for Victoria Nuland to say, yeah, well, we'll end that pipeline, we'll kick them right up the pipeline.
00:13:31.000By doing that, that means that it has to be secret to a degree that it don't even have to get congressional support, which it normally would if it was a co-op, isn't it?
00:13:42.000Listen, we're only going to be, if you're watching us on Twitter or YouTube, we can only stay for another minute because we're going to do our hero presentation.
00:13:57.000We support the anti-war marches that are happening around the world, thankfully, right now.
00:14:02.000And anything humanitarian that can be done to aid Ukrainian people ought be done.
00:14:06.000But if you have a sneaking suspicion that the war machine is being fed, if you think that Zelensky has been elevated to this position of prominence just because temporarily his goals and aims converge with the aims of the globalist, centralist politicians like Rishi Sunak, like Joe Biden, the new establishment that want to continue to fuel the military-industrial complex, that want to participate in Black Rock's reconstruction of Ukraine, then you have to let us know in the chat, in the comments, and you have to stay and watch our investigative reporting, which hasn't won a Pulitzer Prize yet.
00:14:35.000But it's only a matter... We've done it the other way around.
00:14:37.000We start as conspiracy theorists, then we move in to the police.
00:14:50.000According to the source, some of the senior officials of the CIA determined that blowing up the pipeline no longer could be considered a covert option because the President just announced that we knew how to do it.
00:15:00.000So that meant... Even that is tactical.
00:15:03.000Because there's so much potential for Joe Biden to mess that up with all of his forgetfulness and he's like, big, big farmer this year and make no mistake, I'll be sure to get a bit of gumbo and all that stuff.
00:15:12.000Maybe he's not as daft as we think he might be.
00:15:21.000And then he gets home and he goes, now listen to me, son.
00:15:24.000Hunter, go take another laptop to Delaware.
00:15:27.000It's all, the whole thing's a master plan.
00:15:30.000The plan to blow up Nord Stream 2 and 1 was suddenly downgraded from a covert op requiring that Congress be informed to one that was deemed as highly classified with US military support.
00:15:39.000Under the law, the source explained, there's no longer a legal requirement to report to Congress.
00:15:46.000Is this the bit about this bit I really like?
00:15:48.000Because this contextualizes the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline as advantageous, not only economically, but strategically.
00:15:56.000Because if you think about this rationally for a moment, Russia is like a serious country with a real history, hundreds of millions of people.
00:16:04.000Europe and Russia have got to have a convivial, congenial relationship, whether that's based on trade, military pacts or whatever.
00:16:10.000For all of us, for them, for us, peace has to be brought about.
00:16:14.000But The whole Nord Stream pipe scheme allows a number of advantages.
00:16:21.000Firstly, it's what we would call in British football a six-pointer.
00:16:25.000Money that Russia loses, revenue that Russia loses, America gains.
00:16:35.000The Nord Stream 2, whose construction was completed in September 2021, would, if approved by German regulators, double the amount of cheap gas that would be available to Germany and Western Europe.
00:16:44.000The second pipeline would also provide enough gas for more than 50% of Germany's annual consumption.
00:16:49.000As long as Europe remained dependent on the pipelines for cheap natural gas, Washington was afraid that countries like Germany would be reluctant to supply Ukraine with the money and weapons it needed to defeat Russia.
00:17:03.000And I think also the United States, I think it was recently announced, they have become the biggest suppliers or exporters of liquid natural gas now.
00:17:15.000As a display of moral and ethical diplomacy, it's not been great.
00:17:20.000Particularly when the whole framing of this, remember, is Russia as aggressor and Ukrainian civilians and their protection and safety as the aim and the goal.
00:17:30.000Throughout history, how many times have you seen a humanitarian disaster or crisis of some kind presented to you as something that necessarily had to be dealt with only for some of the most powerful interests in the world to benefit?
00:17:40.000So I think we have to learn to look for that template, not to become cynical and bankrupt or extremist, and certainly not to become conspiracy theorists, but we have to certainly stay aware of that possibility, to stay awake to that potential.
00:17:52.000OK, if you're watching this on YouTube or Twitter now, click over to Rumble.
00:17:57.000In recent weeks, the Ukraine has been cleaning up its image as one of the most corrupt nations in the world, getting rid of that defence minister who kept saying stuff like, we're a de facto member of NATO.
00:18:05.000And of course, NATO membership was a super big deal.
00:18:09.000In this presentation, we ask, is this war motivated by a legit desire to help the Ukrainian people, which would be a worthy goal?
00:18:19.000Or is it simply a way of paving the way for foreign investment companies?
00:18:24.000And who is the oligarch that's had to be cleared out of the way, suddenly declared corrupt, in spite of the fact that he funded all of Zelensky's career as an actor, as a politician?
00:18:35.000If he was corrupt then, what is he now?
00:18:36.000And what was his curious relationship with the most powerful family in America and with the world's clumsiest laptop owner, Hunter Biden?
00:18:55.000Zelensky is cracking down on Ukrainian corruption, finally getting rid of an oligarch with inconvenient connections to the world's clumsiest laptop owner, Hunter, as well as making the country ready for the post-war reconstruction.
00:19:09.000Probably time for peace any minute now.
00:19:16.000Zelensky is kicking out corrupt government officials, like that guy who said that we're de facto members of NATO, an oligarch with ties to Hunter Biden, all presumably to prepare Ukraine for the post-war 100% digital utopia that that territory is being prepared for.
00:19:32.000You will be fascinated to know that one person commentating on all this is the world's favourite philanthropist who has no interest by helping people, Mr. Not-Friends-With-Epstein-Just-Had-Dinner-With-Him, Bill Gates, had this to say about Ukraine.
00:19:45.000You know, the Ukrainian government is one of the worst in the world.
00:20:50.000And I promise I'm going to take some of it.
00:20:52.000OK, so you heard Bill Gates just then.
00:20:54.000Ukraine is one of the most corrupt governments in the world.
00:20:56.000Remember, I'm not saying that Ukrainian people shouldn't be helped.
00:20:58.000Of course they bloody well should be helped.
00:20:59.000It's terrible, terrible that they're suffering in this war.
00:21:01.000But saying Ukraine was corrupt back in 2015, even mainstream media news outfits would tell you, look at this headline.
00:21:08.000It was accepted that it was a corrupt country.
00:21:11.000And in fact, the 2014 coup, you know about this stuff now, don't you?
00:21:14.000You know about how complex their politics is.
00:21:16.000So we're not dealing with just Ukraine.
00:21:17.000Ukraine are the goodies and Russia are the baddies.
00:21:20.000It's a bit more complicated than that.
00:21:22.000So it shouldn't be turned into a saccharine Hollywood narrative with Zelensky turning up at the Golden Globes and being given Oscars for a war.
00:21:30.000Ladies and gentlemen, dear participants of the 80s Golden Globe Award Ceremony.
00:21:36.000The Golden Globes, at best, is a frivolous, hopeless, awful waste of time.
00:21:41.000Gratifying it with the presence of a political leader during a war is a really curious event.
00:22:25.000This morning Ukraine's government is in the midst of a purge.
00:22:28.000Several senior officials, including the Deputy Defense Minister, have resigned amid sweeping corruption allegations.
00:22:35.000First thing, let's get rid of all of this Ukrainian corruption so that we can bring in those uncorrupt organizations like BlackRock and the military-industrial complex, get things all nice and clean and shiny, and get rid of any oligarchs who might turn up on a certain laptop!
00:22:49.000Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky... Justin, how do you say that properly?
00:22:54.000...recently announced the dismissal of more than a dozen governors, deputy ministers, and even his deputy advisor.
00:23:01.000Ukraine undertook searches of government buildings and the homes of high-profile ministers and oligarchs as part of a clampdown on corruption.
00:23:08.000The move came ahead of a gathering of European leaders in Kiev to discuss Ukraine's path towards EU membership.
00:23:15.000So the agenda that Russia were concerned about is being pursued in plain sight.
00:23:19.000Ukraine are being integrated in the EU, they are a de facto member of NATO as a, well, former defence minister said, because he's one of the poor bastards who's been ousted now, probably for saying stuff like that.
00:23:29.000Zelensky is determined to show that Kiev can be a safe steward for billions of dollars in allied aid, and also a safe place for Western investment.
00:23:42.000I wonder why those corporations are so interested in investing in Ukraine?
00:23:46.000Zelensky's government has imposed some of the world's most aggressive anti-worker policies, passing legislation that deprives around 73% of workers of their right to union protection and collective bargaining.
00:23:58.000But the thing about Ukrainian politicians is they tell you it how it is.
00:24:01.000If they are de facto members of NATO, they will just let you know.
00:24:05.000Like Defence Minister Alexey Rezhnikov.
00:24:07.000Ukraine became the member of NATO de facto.
00:24:16.000And I'm sure that in the next future we will become the member of NATO de jure.
00:24:23.000So that was what Russia's concern always was, that Ukraine becomes a member of NATO, that Patriot missiles would be placed in Ukraine, that Russia would have on their border Hostile forces.
00:24:32.000We were told continually this wasn't a proxy war because a proxy war would mean World War Three.
00:24:38.000But we have heard people in Congress and even Biden himself allude to escalations of tension and more and more military aid being given.
00:24:44.000And again, our man, the recently sacked, incidentally, Alexei, tells us that Ukraine are spilling blood basically in exchange for weapons and support.
00:24:55.000Alexei Rezhnikov, under pressure from a corruption scandal, is to be reshuffled into another government.
00:25:04.000Rezhnikov, one of Ukraine's better known figures internationally, has been under threat after it emerged the Defense Ministry paid twice or three times the supermarket price of food to supply troops on the front line.
00:25:17.00070% of the weapons they're getting said they don't know where the bloody hell they are.
00:25:20.000But it's not just occasionally clumsily truthful government ministers who are being reshuffled out of sight and out of mind.
00:25:26.000Oligarchs are getting their just desserts too.
00:25:29.000Ukrainian state security officials searched the home of billionaire businessman Ihor Kolomoisky on Wednesday in what several media outlets said was an investigation into possible financial crimes.
00:25:42.000The significance of the story regarding Zelensky turning on his longtime patron and Kolomoisky's other significant ties was entirely buried by foreign and state media, with most merely referring to the situation as another in a series of anti-corruption actions.
00:25:56.000So that's how the media will report on this.
00:25:58.000Anti-corruption rather than corruption.
00:26:01.000Because if this is anti-corruption, it means that what preceded it was corruption.
00:26:04.000What's been going on in Ukraine since 2014 has to be called corruption.
00:26:08.000And if, for example, you found out that this oligarch had ties to a significant American political figure.
00:26:26.000When the story about that laptop was being censored from social media in case it influenced the outcome of the presidential election, how would you have felt if you had known that not only it was true, down the line there would be a war between Ukraine and Russia which amounts to a proxy war due to the amount of American aid, 100 billion, and what's going on with the defence industry, that Hunter Biden worked For one of the energy companies whose former owner, leader, boss, CEO has just been ousted because of corruption.
00:26:57.000I wouldn't ever deny the story that Russia is aggressive, has its own imperial intentions, or that Putin is an aggressor and a tyrant.
00:27:05.000All of that, you know, Another day we could tell you that story.
00:27:08.000But that story is being pretty reliably told, I would have thought, and consistently told.
00:27:12.000But the story that Ukraine is resource-rich is being piloted for all sorts of globalist ideas, surveillance, that the workers are being primed and groomed so that big companies like BlackRock can get in there and heavily That there are ties to the American political establishment that are historic, that the military industrial complex are benefiting, that peace deals have been on the table and have been interrupted, disrupted and put off presumably because all this stuff is beneficial.
00:28:24.000Since then, he became subject of an FBI probe and US sanctions.
00:28:28.000Oh, be friends with Hunter Biden all you like, but you start calling for peace, get me the FBI!
00:28:32.000He has since had his assets seized and nationalised by the Ukrainian government and has been stripped of his Ukrainian citizenship despite being born in Ukraine and living his entire life in Ukraine.
00:28:53.000So it's pretty clear that inconvenient figures are being swept off of the international stage prior to the advent of this colossal investment project for post-war Ukraine and the intention to make it 100% digital.
00:29:06.000Building a new Ukraine together, brave and digital.
00:29:10.000But the fact is, is this war is all Russia's fault.
00:29:13.000Russia are the sole aggressor, and there's not ever been an opportunity for peace anyway, and if there was, I'm sure everyone would take it.
00:29:22.000Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said in an interview posted to his YouTube channel on Saturday that the US and its Western allies blocked his efforts of mediating between Russia and Ukraine to bring an end to the war in its early days.
00:29:35.000Discussing how Western leaders felt about his mediation efforts, Bennett said the then British Prime Minister Boris Johnson took an aggressive line against peace.
00:29:43.000When asked if the Western powers blocked the mediation efforts, Bennett said, basically, yes.
00:29:47.000They blocked it, and I thought they were wrong.
00:29:52.000Apparently, conditions had been substantially set.
00:29:54.000So I suppose another way of looking at the Ukraine-Russia conflict is too many powerful interests converge around this idea.
00:30:02.000Whether it's the resource rich Ukraine, the ability to try out new technologies, the opportunity for investment, the opportunity to try out weapons, the opportunity to challenge and drain and destabilize Russia.
00:30:15.000Now we're seeing Ukraine being prepped for the next phase.
00:30:17.000Get rid of oligarchs with ties to Hunter Biden or any other embarrassing ties.
00:30:23.000Clean up government corruption so that Ukraine can be a great place, not for Ukrainian people, not for the Ukrainian people that we're supposed to be protecting, not the Ukrainian people who are used to rouse sentiment and love and humanitarianism and exactly the kind of things we should be feeling, but to make things better for corporate globalist investment In the post-war Ukraine which is being advertised as 100% digital and 100% amenable to corporate interests.
00:30:49.000So you tell me what you think this war is about.
00:30:53.000Is it about helping Ukrainian people or is it just part of a globalist agenda in which too many interests converge to resist the opportunity?
00:31:01.000So that's my view on all of this but let me know what you think in the chat.
00:31:04.000Let me know what you think in the comments.
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00:32:53.000Callie Means is an activist who used to work in the food and pharma industry before leaving to become a whistleblower on companies like Coca-Cola, where he actually was involved in lobbying.
00:33:01.000For example, did you know that once they blagged it so that Coca-Cola got recommended to children?
00:33:07.000Kids can drink Coca-Cola, it's good for you.
00:33:09.000He now highlights the ways in which Big Food and Big Pharma rig the system to maintain profits and keep us unhealthy.
00:33:21.000Now, we've just come out of a crisis where there's been some controversy around injecting children, perhaps needlessly.
00:33:30.000What is this new obesity drug, Azempic, and what's the story behind it, and why is it dangerous, Callie?
00:33:38.000Well, this is a scandal that I think is the biggest story in the country right now.
00:33:42.000The American Academy of Pediatrics, which is what sets the guidelines for pediatrics in this country, is actually a wholly owned subsidiary of Pharma.
00:33:51.000The majority of their funding comes from Pharma, but they set the agenda.
00:33:55.000And just last week, they recommended that every obese and overweight person in this country over 12 gets an obesity drug and this is a lifetime injection. It
00:34:07.000says on the label for this drug that there are serious and unknown metabolic effects if you
00:34:11.000go off this drug. So we have seen teenagers particularly during COVID now 45 percent obese or
00:34:17.000overweight. It's obviously because of a rigged food system.
00:34:20.000Early in my career, I actually helped Koch rig this system.
00:34:23.000They pay the American Academy of Pediatrics directly.
00:34:26.000They pay the American Diabetes Association.
00:34:29.000Those associations, the medical establishment, has been silent that the fact that the cells and the metabolism of our children have been decimated by our food companies.
00:34:37.000But now that 45% of children are overweight or obese, we are getting a full-court press to have this obesity drug injected into a large percentage of American teens making them lifetime patients.
00:34:50.000What's so dangerous about this, Russell, and honestly heartbreaking, you know, having a new son,
00:35:39.000Through lobbying and through expenditure on dubious trialling methods, through controlling the stories around food, through controlling the stories of nutrition, it seems that an industry is devoted to creating new clients, new patients, new consumers for their products.
00:35:57.000Is it fair to say that the undue influence that Big Food is able to exert on organisations that research subjects like diabetes, heart conditions and heart disease, oncology and cancer, That we're simply not getting the real picture of how we ought to eat and what's healthy.
00:36:13.000And imagine if overnight processed foods were banned, annihilated, and people just ate healthy.
00:36:20.000What would the difference be to diseases like heart disease, diabetes, cancer?
00:36:24.000Yeah, so working for Coke 10 years ago, and now I'm working to change these incentives.
00:36:28.000We had a strategy now with processed food companies contribute 11 times more money to nutritional research in the United States than the NIH.
00:36:36.000They're basically processed food companies are funding research.
00:36:38.000And the direct strategy was to fund thousands and thousands of studies.
00:36:41.000to complicate the issue. Still, to this day, elite research institutions are putting out studies
00:36:46.000questioning whether sugar causes obesity. So, it's mass confusion. And then, as you mentioned,
00:36:52.000the medical system is totally silent on that. The medical system is not ringing an alarm bell
00:36:57.000about childhood diabetes, obesity. They're profiting from it. And I think the key thing
00:37:03.000to understand is that we siloed health in every institution from pharma to med schools to your
00:37:53.000If you are metabolically healthy, if you're eating healthy food, if you're at a normal weight, you're very unlikely to die from COVID.
00:37:59.000You have almost 0% chance of getting diabetes, heart disease, even Alzheimer's, which is now called type 3 diabetes and is highly tied to metabolism.
00:38:07.000So we are ignoring the actually simple root cause and this is by design, right?
00:38:13.000People getting sicker and sicker, and I was kind of confused about why that is, helps
00:38:48.000We are being poisoned from a rigged food system, and the medical system is profiting.
00:38:53.000That is disgusting that the Food and Drug Administration, agency, the FDA, that they
00:39:00.000They regulate both Big Pharma and they regulate Big Food and they take 45% of their funding from the pharmaceutical industry and we can see now how what you correctly adjudicate to be a process of delicious poisoning through sugary, fatty, salty processed foods is a win-win for them.
00:39:19.000I get the sort of symbol, the metaphor talking to you, Callie, that The agricultural models that meant that we were able to detach ourselves from nature, plus industrialization and our corrupt systems, has meant that the food that we are fed are the most profitable foods, not the most nutritious foods.
00:39:38.000That was bad enough when it were carbohydrate-based diets, you know, peasants in whatever country eating potatoes or pasta or rice or bread, whatever was the appropriate food for peasants in that time.
00:39:49.000But now the appropriate food is poison.
00:39:51.000I see us as if we were latched with tubes, siphoning off our energy, pumping poisons into us, but we're like blobs of commodity now.
00:40:01.000And that when you say that our finest educational and academic institutions have been co-opted, that there is no credibility that is normal for a top Harvard professional to be so apparently credulous about how childhood obesity could increase with sugar and fat increasing in diets.
00:40:18.000And when there is so much money spent on lobbying by the food industry, So, mate, what was your personal epiphany?
00:40:24.000When did you realize that you were working in a deeply corrupted industry?
00:40:29.000And what can we do now, systemically and individually?
00:40:35.000So my sister was the pride of the family.
00:40:39.000She was president of her undergrad class, was top of her class at Stanford Med School, and then was an elite surgeon.
00:40:46.000And she, you know, after training for 13 years had an out-of-body experience where she was doing her third surgery of the day looking down at a patient and they had inflammation.
00:40:56.000She was doing a sinusitis, cutting out their sinus, and she did not know why that person had inflammation.
00:41:03.000She was only trained in medical school how to cut that out, how to prescribe a drug.
00:41:07.000And what she realized is that Stanford Med School, Harvard Med School, all the elite med schools in the United States, 80% in total, do not teach one nutrition class to doctors.
00:41:16.000And then when you trace the money, more than 50% of medical school funding touches pharma.
00:41:20.000Doctors spend almost every moment in medical school learning pharmacology.
00:41:24.000They actually do not have any awe, as you talk about Russell, or understanding or curiosity about the interconnectivity of our body and the miraculousness of life.
00:41:34.000They stand, you know, our medical system is incentivized to stand and wait for people to get sick.
00:41:42.000Her name is Dr. Casey Means and has inspired me a lot.
00:41:46.000And then that ties recently to our beloved, our best friend, our mom, dying of pancreatic cancer. She got that diagnosis in 2021,
00:41:54.000died 13 days later, was perfectly healthy.
00:41:56.000And tying that back, pancreatic cancer is highly tied to metabolic dysfunction to food.
00:42:03.000You know, cancers, dementia, kidney disease, COVID deaths, all these things when you trace it are
00:42:08.000actually tied to food. So, Russell, it's really convinced me some of these personal experiences,
00:42:13.000like, you know, you did really take it to a spiritual level.
00:42:16.000Like, we are decimating our human capital when 25% of kids now have pre-diabetes.
00:42:22.000Diabetes is cellular dysregulation in their brains, throughout their precious bodies.
00:42:28.000You know, this is the first order issue and I think we're really being just distracted from it and we need to get back to just awe and curiosity about the interconnectivity of what's happening in our body.
00:42:38.000I think it's the most important issue we face in the world.
00:42:42.000I think that what we require are systems that revere our nature and support our nature rather than enhance the evident corruption and mapped-on systems that are built for profit.
00:42:56.000It's interesting what you say about awe and that lack of curiosity.
00:43:01.000Of course it seems that when you have a poisoned, bewildered, distracted population, you can profit from their illness, you can profit from every aspect of their life.
00:43:10.000You profit from fattening them up, you profit from healing them.
00:43:13.000And obviously a drug where pharmaceutical companies can go to their shareholders and say, this is a drug they have to take for the rest of their lives.
00:43:24.000Also, it's a problem of inequality, of course, isn't it?
00:43:26.000Because now, people that are affluent, and I'd have to say I include myself in this, you replicate the kind of diet that you would have if you were living naturally.
00:43:36.000Like, I recognize that I should be eating organic food, I should probably eat food that's available in the place that I'm at in the season that I'm in.
00:43:47.000The ordinary conditions of our evolution are now a privilege because we are tied to economic systems and institutions of profit that will not afford us access to nature, even when it comes to sustenance, let alone nutrition.
00:44:03.000Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm a free market guy, but I think the free market's been totally rigged.
00:44:15.000I want to put one point, though, on this class issue, because I think that debate's really weaponized.
00:44:21.000You know, I've talked about this on other programs but working for coke one of the first things we did is pay the NAACP and other civil rights groups and I think that's part of the playbook it's to racialize and make the debate a class issue of course it was total gaslighting because what was at stake here is that coke wanted more funding to keep lower income children on coke which which is giving them diabetes but I really want to make this point if you came down
00:44:45.000you know, as an alien to Earth, to the United States, and saw what was going on.
00:44:49.00080% of adults obese or overweight, metabolic dysfunction, 8 of the 10 top
00:44:53.000killers tied to food, you know, just just getting away from our evolution, right?
00:44:57.000You'd have a clear policy recommendation. Let's really focus on food. Let's focus
00:45:01.000on teaching kids how to exercise, how to meditate, to get a control of their mind,
00:45:12.000We wait for everyone to get sick and then drug them, and it's much more expensive.
00:45:16.000In the United States, and this is an important point going back to Ozempic, the obesity drug, because the system's so rigged, because pharma spends three times more than any other industry on lobbying, The United States is not even able to negotiate the drug price, even though they're the largest payer.
00:45:30.000So, Ozempic, you know, prices don't go down when volume goes up.
00:45:34.000Prices are going up in health care and quality is getting worse.
00:45:40.000There's a full court press for government subsidization taxpayer funding.
00:45:44.000It literally, this sounds hyperbolic, but this is the case.
00:45:48.000If that is prescribed how it's projected, that will be trillions of dollars over the next 10 years.
00:45:53.000So, again, when we talk about these class, we talk about Poor folks not being able to afford the food.
00:45:58.000Again, you take one-fifth of the amount we're planning to spend on Ozempic, you could buy organic, pure, whole food for every obese child in this country.
00:46:06.000So I think that economic debate we really need to understand.
00:46:09.000We have a public policy that waits for people to get sick, which I think is evil.
00:46:14.000It seems that it should be the path of least resistance, the most obvious, evident and natural solutions.
00:46:22.000Exercise, eat well, make food affordable for people, create different types of agriculture, take all... I've been thinking increasingly of the fact that the medical industry is so heavily undergirded by the pursuit of profit.
00:46:40.000...denies and defies the possibility of even science.
00:46:45.000When you talk about, you know, the ability of Coca-Cola to influence the Diabetic Association and the Pediatric Association, where's follow the science then?
00:46:53.000How are we meant to regard the last couple of years if this is the true nature of science?
00:46:59.000But like what you were just saying about exercise and healthy living, that message wasn't even pushed during the pandemic.
00:47:06.000That wasn't even pushed at a time when it was going to save lives through this pandemic, where COVID was apparently going to kill everyone.
00:47:12.000How is it going to be pushed in normal everyday life outside of a pandemic?
00:47:15.000At best, it's a myopia, an ineptitude, and at worst, it's a conspiracy to keep people unhealthy, dumb and addicted.
00:47:23.000Yeah, I mean, being in the room, I can say that, you know, there are some evil people, but I think most people, you know, they can go to sleep at night, right?
00:47:30.000They're trying to get kids cheap calories.
00:47:37.000The beauty of the system, in a way, is that everyone has plausible deniability, but nobody's taking responsibility for the fact that everyone is getting sick.
00:47:44.000I mean, you make an interesting point, Russell.
00:47:47.000The patients in this country, both with COVID and really just the chronic disease crisis in general, which I link COVID to, metabolic conditions, people dying from, they're being battered over the head to trust the science.
00:47:58.000They're being battered over the head to trust the experts.
00:48:00.000They're being battered over the head to not ask questions in the face of violence happening over the past 50 years.
00:48:08.000What's happened in the past 50 years is we're getting sicker, fatter, more depressed, more infertile.
00:48:11.000You know, male sperm counts down 50%, female infertility skyrocketing, 25% of women have PCOS, diabetes, all these other conditions, autoimmune conditions, allergies.
00:48:23.000It's all happening, Russell, at the same time, and we're being told to trust the science.
00:48:27.000This is my message, and I'll just be very direct, and, you know, you can take my word for it.
00:48:33.000I just encourage everyone to make up their own mind.
00:48:35.000When it comes to managing chronic conditions, we should not be consulting our doctor.
00:48:39.000The medical system deserves zero benefit of the doubt.
00:48:41.000We should take what they say, but a new kid, American Academy of Pediatrics, funded by food, they were required to give me as a new parent something that says the first thing they should eat is highly processed grains.
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