Stay Free - Russel Brand - Oh SH*T, Biden’s $100 Billion Bundle Taking Us To GLOBAL WAR?! - Stay Free #228

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00:06:59.000 hello there you awakening wonders Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:07:25.000 Whether you're watching this right now on YouTube, or you're a member of our locals Awakened Wanderer community, or our home of Rumble, you are gonna love today's show and we want your involvement.

00:07:34.000 It's absolutely integral that independent media remains the voice of the people, a conduit for your inquiry, your questions, your awakening, so that we can truly build Unified but decentralised models together.

00:07:48.000 It's become plain to me, it's become plain to the world that independent media is now, by its nature, political.

00:07:54.000 Gone are the days when it's just about reporting.

00:07:56.000 It is now about movement and activism.

00:08:00.000 And I know there's a lot of division in the world.

00:08:02.000 In this time of omnicrisis, doesn't it seem that division and fracture and fissure is what defines us?

00:08:08.000 Well, who's going to unify us?

00:08:10.000 Is it the centralised powers of the globalist establishment?

00:08:14.000 By that I mean institutions that are transcendent of democracy, that are able to impose regulation and legislation on your nation, i.e.

00:08:21.000 the WHO, with their ability to command 5% of the health budget of any member nation.

00:08:27.000 Grab that dog, someone, give him a treat. 1.00

00:08:29.000 Bear my dog plainly, strongly, WHO.

00:08:34.000 Against, I would say.

00:08:35.000 Strongly against.

00:08:36.000 We've got so many incredible things to talk to you about and we need your involvement.

00:08:40.000 I'm going to be asking you a variety of questions that you'll simply respond to with yes or no or maybe even Y or N or 1 or 2.

00:08:49.000 In here's the news, we're going to be talking about a recent story.

00:08:51.000 Let me know if you've seen this.

00:08:52.000 A meme prankster was jailed for seven months for offering voters the opportunity, and who would not want this opportunity, to vote for Hillary Clinton by text.

00:09:04.000 It's a story from 2016 but the dude's just been jailed.

00:09:07.000 We're going to be talking about that and what contributes to anti-democratic practices more strongly?

00:09:13.000 Is it online humorists?

00:09:16.000 Or is it establishment-affiliated stooge politicians that represent corporatism and work entirely for the donor class and don't care about you, the electorate, that want you disempowered and misinformed, that even talk about deprogramming you?

00:09:32.000 Did you see that interview where Hillary Clinton said that Trump voters need to be debugged?

00:09:38.000 We'll be looking at that.

00:09:40.000 Also, on the subject of decentralization, and it's a word I'm going to be using a lot, we talked to Will Harris.

00:09:45.000 Do you know who Will Harris is?

00:09:46.000 He's that farmer.

00:09:47.000 He's that beef farmer who came from an industrial beef background and went all organic.

00:09:53.000 This guy is unbelievable. 0.76

00:09:55.000 He's funny, he's been on the show a bunch of times, and even though I don't eat meat myself, I know a lot of you do, you carnivorous brutes.

00:10:03.000 You know, we have guests on here like Paul Saladino saying you can't be healthy unless you bite a chunk out of any passing elk.

00:10:09.000 I know like you lot out there in the U.S.

00:10:12.000 estates, you like to be shooting things out of trees and bushes and any environment, really.

00:10:18.000 But me, I don't do that.

00:10:20.000 And yet, I love you still, for we can love one another in spite of our diets.

00:10:25.000 Now, for the first 15 minutes, we're going to be on YouTube, and we love every one of you Awaken Wonders.

00:10:30.000 There's a link in the description and that link is a pathway to a promised land for surely a spiritual war is upon us and if you want to be on the side of the righteous you've got to be on the side of the free.

00:10:42.000 A place where you can oppose the opinions of others safely and respectfully.

00:10:46.000 Join us if you're not on rumble yet join us on rumble now you might have to later because some of the subjects we're discussing Might involve things that fall within the tenure of the WHO regulation that YouTube, as you know, uses for its community guidelines.

00:10:59.000 That's how centralization and globalism works.

00:11:02.000 That's the soft end of it entering into your life.

00:11:06.000 We've got some brilliant content, but I want to get into the main story of course.

00:11:09.000 Did you lot see Joe Biden's speech the other night in a curiously I would say rambling and ineloquent piece of oratory from that great epitomising symbol of democracy, that synecdoche of power, the White House.

00:11:27.000 Biden seemed to be talking about bundling together financial aid for a variety of complex wars, including the conflict in the Middle East, Ukraine and Russia, and even a potential conflict between the US and China.

00:11:41.000 Did you see this?

00:11:42.000 Did you see it?

00:11:44.000 And let me know.

00:11:44.000 I'm fascinated to know this.

00:11:46.000 Did you see it as an opportunity to conflate a new and emergent conflict where tensions are very high and people are understandably in a very emotional space given the nature of the tragedy unfolding with the increasingly less popular Ukraine-Russia conflict?

00:12:04.000 Unpopular I would offer you because people don't support the people of Ukraine but because people are seeing that the conditions of that war are not as initially described and indeed even in this speech it becomes clear that Biden watch it you might even miss this if you don't watch very carefully subtly starts talking about Boots on the ground.

00:12:23.000 And if you want to know how this speech is going to roll out, you have to look at the commencement of it.

00:12:28.000 Before that, we've got a comment here from Andy31, a member of our AwakendWonder community.

00:12:32.000 If you're watching some Rumble right now, press the red button, become an AwakendWonder.

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00:12:40.000 How are we going to get out of the Omnicrisis?

00:12:41.000 How are we going to unite?

00:12:42.000 How are we going to change the world together?

00:12:44.000 How are we going to mobilize the deep spiritual power that I know you have to overcome what seems like omnipresent enmity?

00:12:51.000 What seems like an unassailable opponent?

00:12:55.000 Andy Free on that platform, on Locals, one of our Awaken Wonders asks, so...

00:12:59.000 Listening to the radio news on the way to work and they move from one news item about the humanitarian relief needing to be sent into Gaza, then they move to Biden talking about monetary support for Israel and Ukraine.

00:13:09.000 What's going on?

00:13:10.000 Well, this idea of bundling together financial aid for numerous distinct conflicts is the subject of the question I want to Asked you.

00:13:18.000 So let me know in the chat if you're watching us live, particularly on Rumble now.

00:13:21.000 So I'm talking to you, Wagner195.

00:13:23.000 I'm talking to you, FreyaSands4Truth. 0.55

00:13:24.000 I'm talking to you, a big fan, warrior of God for life.

00:13:28.000 God help you.

00:13:29.000 I'm talking about this.

00:13:31.000 Do you think that these conflicts should be bundled together or looked at as discrete conflicts?

00:13:37.000 Potentially with discrete solutions that will require a variety of different potential means.

00:13:43.000 So if you think they should be bundled together, can you just put Y in the chat for me now?

00:13:47.000 And if you think they should be looked at distinctly, just type N. Now let's get looking at that speech from Biden right now.

00:13:54.000 Look at how it starts as well.

00:13:55.000 Let me show you that.

00:13:57.000 Am I supposed to be bundling together some complex ideas right now?

00:14:10.000 Fellow Americans.

00:14:12.000 Like, that bit when he's looking around not saying anything, that's the real Joe Biden, isn't it?

00:14:17.000 That's what we're seeing.

00:14:18.000 A sort of hollow conduit for invisible ulterior power that does not alter regardless of who you vote for.

00:14:26.000 Let me know if that's true.

00:14:29.000 Let's check out the rest of the speech and pay attention to what's the agenda here.

00:14:33.000 Is this about supporting people in a time of crisis or is this about exploiting a time of crisis?

00:14:37.000 I want you to decide for yourselves and determine for ourselves because, you know.

00:14:43.000 Good evening my fellow Americans.

00:14:46.000 We're facing an inflection point in history.

00:14:48.000 Here's the inflection.

00:14:51.000 One of those moments where the decisions we make today are going to determine the future for decades to come.

00:14:57.000 There's such a thing as decades to come.

00:14:59.000 I know these conflicts can seem far away.

00:15:02.000 Really?

00:15:02.000 There's like one everywhere.

00:15:04.000 There's some talk of the aid that's being bundled together in, I think, a hundred billion dollar package.

00:15:08.000 Is it as much as that?

00:15:09.000 Some of it being used on the border, being used for potential conflict with China.

00:15:14.000 So no matter where you go on vacation, there's going to be a world war for you.

00:15:18.000 It's natural to ask, why does this matter to America?

00:15:22.000 For 75 years, NATO has kept peace in Europe.

00:15:26.000 The last couple of months, you could question their activity.

00:15:26.000 Well, I don't know.

00:15:29.000 For example, NATO themselves admitted that Putin said, listen, if you continue to ask Ukraine to join, there will be problem.

00:15:35.000 If you try to annex Crimea, and yet NATO went, well, we're not doing that.

00:15:40.000 That's not how we work at NATO.

00:15:41.000 We're pretty tough bureaucrats over here.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, they might have done some peacekeeping.

00:15:45.000 Let me know in the chat if you think that's what the function of NATO is.

00:15:48.000 And do we even need a NATO anymore?

00:15:50.000 Who benefits?

00:15:52.000 Or do you think that NATO has played a part in the escalation of this conflict?

00:15:57.000 It has been the cornerstone of American security.

00:15:59.000 And if Putin attacks a NATO ally, we will defend every inch of NATO which a treaty requires and calls for.

00:16:06.000 We'll have something that we do not seek.

00:16:09.000 Make it clear, we do not seek.

00:16:10.000 We do not seek to have American troops fighting in Russia.

00:16:14.000 Why are you talking about that?

00:16:15.000 Why are you saying you don't seek it?

00:16:17.000 We don't seek it, but it might inevitably happen.

00:16:19.000 Oh no!

00:16:20.000 Look what's happened!

00:16:21.000 There's troops all over that war!

00:16:23.000 Do you think that this speech from Joe Biden, let me know, is this an example of priming?

00:16:23.000 It's very interesting.

00:16:28.000 Where you're offered ideas and slowly maneuvered in the direction of an agenda.

00:16:34.000 And let me know this.

00:16:35.000 Do you think it's the function of the legacy media to amplify the intentions of the powerful and to normalize the intentions of the powerful?

00:16:42.000 So suddenly something that's pretty wacky like robots stealing everybody's jobs seems like a great idea on a news item and we're going to be giving you the opportunity to see that a little later.

00:16:52.000 You're going to love that story even if it feels somewhat terrifying and dystopian.

00:16:56.000 So let's go back to Joe Biden and his rambling attempt to make very complex and difficult situations seem like an opportunity that Raytheon just can't afford to miss.

00:17:06.000 We're fighting against Russia.

00:17:07.000 That's why tomorrow I'm going to send to Congress an urgent budget request to fund America's national security needs, to support our critical partners including Israel and Ukraine.

00:17:19.000 It's a smart investment that's going to While we're talking about the language of finance and economics, whose interests are being met here?

00:17:27.000 Is this humanitarian support for allies across the world, or is it an opportunity to exploit conflict?

00:17:34.000 And before you answer, have a look at a little thing called All History, and in particular the history of recent American wars.

00:17:41.000 We've paid dividends for American security for generations.

00:17:45.000 Help us keep American troops out of harm's way.

00:17:48.000 One way to do that is, like, stop escalating the conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

00:17:53.000 Help us build a world that is safer, more peaceful, and more... Did he say build a world, or did he say build a wall?

00:17:58.000 I thought we were against walls.

00:17:59.000 No, more walls.

00:18:00.000 The thing about Trump, he didn't like walls.

00:18:02.000 He didn't build enough of them, and he didn't build them right.

00:18:05.000 I mean, the policies change so quickly, it's difficult to keep up, even if he does speak pretty slowly.

00:18:09.000 ...prosperous for our children and grandchildren.

00:18:12.000 Children and grandchildren might be an issue if we induce Armageddon by engaging global superpowers in needless conflict in order to establish a unipolar hegemony that doesn't benefit the ordinary Americans, who are some of the most decent people on God's Earth, but seems to benefit elite establishment interests that transcendent of nation, I'm speaking specifically of corporate interests and unelected bodies, Just one example being the WHO.

00:18:39.000 I'm not suggesting they're behind this war.

00:18:41.000 Certainly not.

00:18:42.000 Certainly, certainly not.

00:18:43.000 I'm just saying that those kind of agencies appear to have undue power.

00:18:47.000 Let me know what you think in the chat, you guys in Rumble.

00:18:50.000 Remember, I'm still watching for whether or not you think that this is about bundling together complex and distinct conflicts or is this about humanitarian aid and the unique role of the United States of America as your president, I'm sorry to say that to you, your president claims.

00:19:05.000 Patriot missiles for air defense batteries.

00:19:08.000 The lip touch, never a good sign.

00:19:09.000 Made in Arizona.

00:19:11.000 You know, just as in World War II.

00:19:13.000 I don't like that this is a job opportunity for people in Arizona, is it?

00:19:17.000 Is that what you think this is?

00:19:18.000 Do you know what we have to do?

00:19:19.000 Go to war with China. 0.85

00:19:20.000 Go to war with Russia. 0.84

00:19:21.000 Over in Arizona, jobs making missiles.

00:19:24.000 Also, we're going to be testing some of those missiles in Arizona as well, so shut your windows.

00:19:28.000 Also, we'll be talking about some of the jobs that are being replaced right now as automation continues at pace.

00:19:35.000 Today, patriotic American workers are building the arsenal of democracy.

00:19:40.000 I don't like the phrase, arsenal of democracy.

00:19:43.000 We talk a lot, don't we, about Orwellian doublespeak.

00:19:46.000 But when you hear a phrase like, when you hear a phrase like, arsenal of democracy, what the hell is this nuclear arsenal?

00:19:52.000 That is democracy.

00:19:53.000 Because without it, you're just, you're just not going to be free enough.

00:19:56.000 And if you were to question that, I'm going to have to explode you. 0.99

00:19:59.000 In serving the cause of freedom.

00:20:01.000 In moments like these, we have to remind, we have to remember who we are.

00:20:04.000 We're the United States of America.

00:20:07.000 That is reductivism.

00:20:08.000 He does it again though, watch.

00:20:09.000 Do you remember the universal condemnation of Donald Trump for the crime of jingoism, patriotism, reductivism, make America great again?

00:20:21.000 Oh, if only it were that simple.

00:20:23.000 What's dog-whistled within that?

00:20:25.000 The problem is, is that Biden is trying to do what Trump does so well, but badly.

00:20:30.000 We are the United States of America.

00:20:32.000 What's that supposed to mean?

00:20:34.000 That, and therefore, escalating tensions with China won't lead to a conflict that will ultimately cost unnecessary lives?

00:20:42.000 That sustaining what seems like an unwinnable war with Russia won't cost many, many lives American and otherwise?

00:20:49.000 Introducing, notice for the first time, the concept of American boots on the ground.

00:20:54.000 In a sense, I sometimes think that the problem they really have with Trump is Trump's just better at communicating than they are.

00:21:01.000 Nothing beyond our capacity.

00:21:03.000 If we do it together.

00:21:05.000 There you go.

00:21:05.000 Nothing... At the end, it's sort of like Live Aid.

00:21:09.000 And that's why... Heal the world!

00:21:12.000 Make it... Not you, Michael!

00:21:13.000 Make it a bit of... God, none of these guys are allowed to sing anymore!

00:21:16.000 So what story do you want us to cover next?

00:21:19.000 Now, bearing in mind, if you're watching this on YouTube, and we love you, you awakened wonder, you're very, very important to us over there, in spite of what's happened with the demonetisation, facilitating a request of the UK government.

00:21:30.000 Curious business, really.

00:21:31.000 We love you.

00:21:32.000 We know it's not you.

00:21:34.000 or if you're watching us on rumble or if you're a member of our awake and wonder community press the red button to join them there they're a very beautiful bunch i'll tell you that what story do you want us to cover we've got a story of dr drew talking about myocarditis we obviously wouldn't be able to talk about that on youtube we've got a Oh no, he's got me doing it, man!

00:21:51.000 And then we've got, uh, this is my favourite, I don't want to bias you, Amazon have got these humanoid robots, and what I love about the story, it's not the humanoid robots, they're obviously terrifying, what's really good is the legacy media just...

00:22:04.000 Turning it into a commercial.

00:22:06.000 They're turning it into a commercial, not just for the humanoid robots and the other non-human robots.

00:22:10.000 They don't even look human.

00:22:11.000 Like, they're turning it just like, this is some of Amazon's best products.

00:22:15.000 The news is simply there to amplify and normalize the intentions and agenda of the powerful.

00:22:22.000 One of my favorite phrases or we've got a sort of a story where admittedly it's quite good Joe Biden's chin looks like a ball bag or a PlayStation handle.

00:22:29.000 I know you're gonna want that but you know it's up to you.

00:22:32.000 Dr. Drew myocarditis is one.

00:22:34.000 Amazon humanoid robots that's two and Biden's ball bag chin is three.

00:22:38.000 I'll try and do them all but while you are voting there we'll be checking uh because you know it's a democracy there'll be no voter fraud here let me tell you.

00:22:45.000 We will count every vote and dead people do not vote here let me tell you.

00:22:49.000 We'll be talking about Rishi Sunak.

00:22:52.000 He's the Prime Minister of our country, the United Kingdom.

00:22:55.000 What did he do before that?

00:22:56.000 He was the Chancellor of our country.

00:22:57.000 What did he do before that?

00:22:58.000 Oh, you know, he just had a hedge fund that invested $500 million in the Moderna vaccine.

00:23:04.000 Oh, that's interesting.

00:23:06.000 New analysis has found that his fund supported startups During the COVID pandemic and invested nearly two million in companies linked to his wife, which is in turn linked to the WEF.

00:23:18.000 Can we see that still on the screen?

00:23:19.000 Are we showing that now?

00:23:20.000 It's unbelievable.

00:23:22.000 Oh, it's me.

00:23:22.000 I do it.

00:23:22.000 It's up to me.

00:23:23.000 I'm in charge.

00:23:24.000 I got the power!

00:23:25.000 Look at it there.

00:23:26.000 There is Rishi Sunak's wife.

00:23:28.000 Rishi Sunak's controversial fund to support start-ups during the Covid pandemic invested nearly $2 million in companies linked to his wife.

00:23:35.000 The Guardian, which is a British newspaper, found it is the fourth business linked to Murti, revealed to have received an investment from the fund set up by Sunak to support start-ups when he was Chancellor during the Covid pandemic and attending many of the parties that took place While the rest of us were locked up, that wouldn't happen in your country.

00:23:51.000 What was going on in the state of California?

00:23:53.000 How did Gavin Newsom boogie on down in that complicated time?

00:23:56.000 So, what do you want to see?

00:23:58.000 One, two, or three?

00:23:59.000 Three.

00:24:00.000 Is that the ball bag?

00:24:01.000 Of course it is!

00:24:02.000 Okay, listen, do we have to leave YouTube for a ball bag?

00:24:05.000 We can stay on YouTube.

00:24:06.000 Okay, but we're only going to be here for a little while, and then I'm doing the Amazon one.

00:24:10.000 I'm doing it because it's good.

00:24:11.000 Okay, is it just number six, just a still?

00:24:15.000 Alright, so let me show you first.

00:24:18.000 Firstly, that's incontrovertible evidence that his chin does look like a PlayStation more than a ball bag, I would say, because that kind of separation and distinction certainly I don't imagine would occur in a Biden ball bag.

00:24:29.000 But let's have a look at the clip itself.

00:24:32.000 I learned a long time ago that you go over and you're like...

00:24:35.000 This is what before a flight, because he's wearing his flight clothes already and he's all sort of tired and that.

00:24:44.000 Because he looks pretty tired when he's meant to be trying to simplify a global conflict, doesn't he?

00:24:49.000 He looks pretty knackered, all suited up in your Oval Office there.

00:24:51.000 He looks like, oh, he could go off any minute, didn't know when the show had started.

00:24:54.000 When he's actually in his little sleep suit for a plane journey, I mean, this is the very precipice of cadaverous.

00:25:03.000 I've got to say, he's looking a bit deader than Lazarus.

00:25:06.000 If someone's going through something that's beyond their comprehension...

00:25:11.000 you Well, beyond Joe Biden's comprehension, let's face it, that could be a centimetre away.

00:25:16.000 There you go.

00:25:21.000 But this is not about that.

00:25:23.000 This is about the chin.

00:25:24.000 And some people are saying his mask is melting.

00:25:27.000 Roberta Zak over there on Rumble. 0.98

00:25:29.000 Paulan1990C, I miss Gareth.

00:25:31.000 He's just there.

00:25:32.000 You don't need to miss him.

00:25:33.000 I'm just one more time want to look at that PlayStation thing because that That is what it looks like, isn't it?

00:25:39.000 That's what.

00:25:40.000 Maybe if you... When Joe Biden's next smelling a child's hair, and you can bet you won't have to wait long, that child can pass the time as they feel their scalp being sucked up into the old zombie sinuses by having a little bit of PlayStation fun.

00:25:55.000 That's maybe an option.

00:25:57.000 Listen, even though you didn't vote for it, interesting views being conveyed over here in the locals chat that I won't be conveying while we're still on YouTube, but you're certainly free to Discuss whatever you like because this is a free speech platform, baby!

00:26:10.000 Let's have a look at this.

00:26:11.000 You're going to love this.

00:26:12.000 This is the last thing I want to show you on YouTube, is it?

00:26:14.000 And then we're going to talk about Douglas Mackey, seven months in prison for memes.

00:26:18.000 For memes now!

00:26:20.000 The free speech nightmare is getting pretty extreme, let me tell you.

00:26:24.000 But I want to show you this because you'll love it.

00:26:27.000 This is This is an advert!

00:26:29.000 Just tell me, have you noticed that the news is a TV show and a commercial for the agenda of the powerful?

00:26:37.000 They find what the establishment want amplified and they amplify it.

00:26:40.000 In this case, it's the normalization of autonomous robots helping Amazon to make more money, which of course, of course, will be passed on to the consumer.

00:26:48.000 Have you not heard of trickle-down economics?

00:26:51.000 What's wrong with you?

00:26:52.000 Read some Milton Friedman, baby.

00:26:53.000 Let's have a look.

00:26:54.000 And it's all about innovation.

00:26:56.000 I'm inside BOSS 27.

00:26:57.000 This is a state-of-the-art facility just outside of Boston.

00:27:01.000 Even seeing them running around like that, like little sort of like step, you know those things where you could do a Reebok step?

00:27:07.000 And also a bit like sort of rats, future rats running around like that.

00:27:10.000 I don't like it.

00:27:11.000 I don't like them scuttling around.

00:27:12.000 And with me now is Amazon's chief technologist for robotics, Ty Brady.

00:27:16.000 Ty, thanks for being here.

00:27:17.000 My pleasure.

00:27:18.000 So this is the first time the public will see some of the new technology you are rolling out for the holidays.

00:27:23.000 What happens?

00:27:25.000 And also the commodification and commercialization of times that used to be sacred even prior to monotheism, the holidays of celebration of unity, real values, the idea that there is a living God beneath all apparent material reality.

00:27:37.000 But what would you like to purchase from this warehouse where soon there will be no humans, only these scuttle rats?

00:27:44.000 In a lab like this.

00:27:45.000 We are reimagining the future of robotics so that you can do your holiday shopping even better.

00:27:51.000 Great, brilliant.

00:27:52.000 Consumerism's definitely the answer. 0.98

00:27:53.000 We can definitely buy our way out of this.

00:27:55.000 One thing I've noticed about consumerism is it definitely works in filling that deep void within us.

00:28:00.000 This sense of prevailing nihilism and narcissism that we're adrifting in the old forever wars.

00:28:08.000 Today, Amazon launches Sequoia, its brand new robotic system in Houston.

00:28:13.000 The company says it's capable of stocking merchandise 75% more quickly.

00:28:17.000 Look at that graphic. 0.98

00:28:19.000 The news is doing a graphic for Amazon.

00:28:21.000 Why are they doing Amazon's promo for them on the... Boom!

00:28:25.000 75% more quickly.

00:28:26.000 That's what they spend their time doing.

00:28:27.000 Promoting an already powerful big tech partner.

00:28:31.000 And delivering your orders 25% faster.

00:28:34.000 What was the problem you were trying to solve with Sequoia?

00:28:36.000 We want to offer...

00:28:37.000 Workers rights a wider selection for our customers.

00:28:40.000 We want to do that in a very efficient manner So they can pass on a low cost to our customers Oh, the old low cost.

00:28:46.000 Thanks for that.

00:28:47.000 I've noticed all these low costs.

00:28:48.000 During the pandemic, the main thing I noticed in the pandemic is how, remember, how small businesses really thrived and flourished, didn't they?

00:28:55.000 And poor people, they got richer and richer.

00:28:57.000 Meanwhile, big tech and big pharma and everything, they were taken to task, weren't they, by that crisis.

00:29:01.000 So we know what the prevailing mentality is, and there's certainly no point questioning it. 1.00

00:29:05.000 Get away from me, you damn scuttle rats! 0.99

00:29:07.000 Brady says Sequoia also makes it safer for employees. 0.99

00:29:10.000 safety never before is the word safety being used to assert control notice the insidious language that's used to legitimize authoritarianism reducing the number of accidents and safer we say we just want to we just want to protect you stress injuries You're at home now, atrophying and decaying, so ordinary people have less and less power within the system.

00:29:40.000 Now that the manufacturing industries across Western countries are in total decline and broadly speaking outsourced in many cases to nations that are regarded politically as enemies, curiously enough, You ain't got a job, you ain't got no rights, you ain't got no power, you ain't got ability to communicate, you're being surveilled, you're being censored.

00:29:58.000 Merry Christmas though!

00:29:59.000 Soon those benefits will be trickling down.

00:30:01.000 You don't have to get on a ladder, you don't have to bend down on your knees, you don't have to reach up really high.

00:30:06.000 I don't have to reach up very high, except when grasping for some sort of grace, some sort of connection to meaning, because my job has gone, and because being run by a kind of demonic, joyless force that wants to destroy the essence of being human.

00:30:21.000 And just how do those towers move around?

00:30:23.000 Meet Hercules.

00:30:24.000 Today is graduation day, the Finnish...

00:30:28.000 What?

00:30:28.000 They've got a grant?

00:30:29.000 You're having a ceremony for robots form a line and drive themselves onto their own

00:30:33.000 Shipping pallets where they'll head off to work at fulfillment centers around the world

00:30:38.000 If like in a here machines don't have to pieces raise your face

00:30:42.000 Good point.

00:30:43.000 Do you think, when you see these little things scuttling about, can you sort of imagine them one day in the not-too-distant future, perhaps in a pandemic, sort of ushering us into our homes?

00:30:52.000 Let me know if that's a possibility.

00:30:54.000 Just type Y in the chat for yes, if you think, oh, look, the old scuttlebug.

00:30:58.000 Do you know what?

00:30:59.000 Last time that lockdown didn't turn out to be as effective as they said.

00:30:59.000 Do you know what?

00:31:02.000 So I think, actually, I might not... Get into your home!

00:31:06.000 Get into your home!

00:31:08.000 What's Gavin Newsom doing over there?

00:31:09.000 He's dancing in the street like Mick Jagger.

00:31:12.000 Never mind that!

00:31:12.000 Mind your own b... Into your home!

00:31:14.000 Relax!

00:31:15.000 You're gonna get a repetitive strain injury!

00:31:18.000 Why won't you let me help you?

00:31:20.000 Why won't you let us help you?

00:31:22.000 Help you?

00:31:22.000 Amazon is also introducing Digit.

00:31:25.000 This new bipedal robot can grab and move orders in warehouse spaces not designed for humans.

00:31:32.000 Here comes Digit now to collect all of your treasured possessions because you will owe nothing and be happy.

00:31:38.000 Digit's gonna make sure of that.

00:31:40.000 Yes, yes.

00:31:40.000 Right, Klaus?

00:31:42.000 Digit will make sure you owe nothing.

00:31:45.000 Ah, the old chickapoos are full of sweet insect juice and freedom.

00:31:50.000 So I think something a lot of people are curious about is what happens between the time they click buy now and the product arrives at their doorstep.

00:31:58.000 You're going to walk me through that.

00:31:59.000 Curious about that.

00:32:00.000 I've been numbed to the idea that anything takes place or the idea that when I flush the toilet that there's a subsequent set of actions because I've been isolated and atomized just like they want us.

00:32:10.000 Not connected by a unifying force or deep light within us that could awaken at any moment and end this systemic corruption that governs our planet.

00:32:17.000 I don't think about what happens after I make my Amazon order.

00:32:19.000 I just slump down back on my sofa, put on the mainstream media and wait for the next Bout of propaganda like an obedient little prisoner of the state just like you want us.

00:32:27.000 I don't ask no questions.

00:32:29.000 I don't think no more.

00:32:30.000 I'll let you do my thinking for me.

00:32:32.000 I'll accept news, mainstream legacy media news that functions like an advertisement.

00:32:36.000 I'll just eat that up. 1.00

00:32:37.000 I'll just lay down on my back and devour it like a dumb little cell. 1.00

00:32:41.000 Sounds good. 0.97

00:32:42.000 Okay, so I'm gonna buy what is a bestseller on Amazon right now.

00:32:45.000 This is an advert!

00:32:46.000 This is a commercial!

00:32:47.000 Okay, so this is doing well.

00:32:49.000 What is that, a bread maker?

00:32:50.000 It looks like a bread maker.

00:32:50.000 Is that what it is?

00:32:51.000 What is that now?

00:32:52.000 What do you do there?

00:32:53.000 Can you bake up Klaus Schwab's saliva into a lovely little European scone? 0.56

00:32:58.000 There you go.

00:32:58.000 The Instant Pot.

00:32:59.000 It's gonna be hot this holiday too.

00:33:00.000 Be hot, right on your phone, ready to go.

00:33:02.000 Okay, I'm gonna add it to my cart.

00:33:04.000 Showing you, that's how, like, do you remember shopping channels?

00:33:06.000 Do you remember when people go, oh, yeah, look at the world now.

00:33:08.000 These shopping channels, look, they do the close-up of the cubic zirconia earrings. 0.99

00:33:12.000 It's so dumb. 0.98

00:33:13.000 Now, the news does that. 1.00

00:33:14.000 It's telling you how to operate Amazon, isn't it?

00:33:18.000 They're just walking you into consumerism.

00:33:21.000 By the time you did that, I've sourced...

00:33:24.000 Austin says on Rumble, it's an air fryer.

00:33:28.000 Yeah, I got it.

00:33:29.000 I think about them sometimes because I hear it.

00:33:31.000 Once in a while people go to you, air fryer!

00:33:33.000 Get an air fryer.

00:33:34.000 And something about those words attracts me even a bit.

00:33:36.000 Like, ooh, it fries with the air.

00:33:39.000 That's got to...

00:33:40.000 Well, that's gonna fill up the vacancy deep in the pit of my belly that comes from living in this nihilistic, demonic void.

00:33:48.000 An air fryer! 0.99

00:33:49.000 You've got eternity to be air fried in hell, baby! 1.00

00:33:52.000 Every Instant Pot inside our network to figure out what's the best way to bring that to your house. 0.96

00:33:56.000 The system found my Instant Pot at a fulfillment center in Pennsgrove, New Jersey.

00:34:03.000 From there...

00:34:04.000 I should be careful where you leave that, if I were you.

00:34:06.000 It was driven to Carteret, New Jersey, where it was boxed, labeled, and loaded onto another truck.

00:34:11.000 Look, the news is making this!

00:34:14.000 This is an advert for Amazon!

00:34:17.000 Look at all the graphics, all the trouble they've gone to!

00:34:19.000 Do you remember, during the pandemic, do you remember them doing, OK, we're going to do a real thorough investigation of what the hell has just gone on, because it seems we've been told one thing and not others.

00:34:28.000 So we're going to make some inquiries.

00:34:30.000 Listen, if you're watching us on YouTube and you want to stay with us, you've got to join us.

00:34:34.000 Do you hear what free speech sounds like?

00:34:36.000 It sounds like this.

00:34:37.000 It sounds like a chat of people asking questions, having fun, together, unified, willing to overlook our differences to create the movement they're truly afraid of, an awakened population that opposes the establishment.

00:34:48.000 Stay free.

00:34:49.000 That's what we want to make here.

00:34:50.000 That's what we're interested in.

00:34:52.000 Independent media is only the beginning.

00:34:54.000 Your freedom is surely our aim.

00:34:56.000 Click the link in the description.

00:34:57.000 Join us over in Rumble.

00:34:58.000 Show them you cannot be bought, that you cannot be controlled.

00:35:02.000 You cannot be bought, that you cannot be controlled.

00:35:05.000 You cannot be bought, that you cannot be controlled.

00:35:08.000 www.mooji.org www.mooji.org

00:36:03.000 www.mooji.org This is all about sound.

00:36:07.000 Locals, have you got sound?

00:36:09.000 Well, it's.

00:36:11.000 Is Rumble... Have we got sound on Rumble?

00:36:15.000 Locals hears us perfectly.

00:36:17.000 Rumble cannot.

00:36:17.000 Do we know what it is?

00:36:18.000 Presumably, it was when we switched off YouTube.

00:36:22.000 So, do you have a solution?

00:36:26.000 Or a diagnosis?

00:36:27.000 Yeah!

00:36:28.000 You're back, baby!

00:36:29.000 Yes!

00:36:30.000 That's what it's like, isn't it?

00:36:30.000 What was that like?

00:36:32.000 They've plunged us... You know who's behind that, don't you?

00:36:35.000 Do you know what we were about to tell you?

00:36:37.000 We were about to tell you about some serious censorship and surveillance stuff, and all of a sudden, we got muted.

00:36:44.000 Well, that's the first time they've ever tried to silence my voice, and man, it didn't feel good.

00:36:49.000 I'll tell you that.

00:36:50.000 Thanks for joining us on Rumble.

00:36:52.000 If you're watching us on Rumble, the sound over there on locals, oh, barely ever.

00:36:56.000 They don't know how to silence us there.

00:36:58.000 That's why we are creating these communities.

00:37:00.000 Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence, says Ashela over on the AwakendWonder community.

00:37:06.000 Yeah, they love a little bit of silence.

00:37:08.000 Okay, so let's just watch the end of this, well, what amounts to an Amazon advert.

00:37:12.000 For a distribution center in the Bronx.

00:37:15.000 That's where the delivery van picked it up and dropped it off the next day at 6.48 p.m. to me.

00:37:20.000 That was just, I almost feel like that she's quite a kind person there.

00:37:26.000 I feel like it's one of my daughters doing a thing.

00:37:28.000 And that's how Amazon works, and that's why I like Amazon.

00:37:31.000 Here's the news.

00:37:32.000 What's the rest of the news?

00:37:33.000 Well, just basically do as you're told.

00:37:35.000 Don't question anything.

00:37:37.000 Everything's essentially as you're being told by the legacy media.

00:37:40.000 Certainly there's no evidence the big pharma or the military-industrial complex have undue influence when it comes to policymaking around health or foreign policy.

00:37:50.000 And here's another story we just told you.

00:37:51.000 Douglas Mackey, tell me if you're familiar with this story.

00:37:55.000 This dude's got seven months bird, seven month proper jail time after being found guilty of election interference for making memes disparaging Hillary Clinton.

00:38:05.000 One of the macro points of this is how do they not yet know that The problem isn't that people were disparaging Hillary Clinton.

00:38:13.000 The problem is that Hillary Clinton is the epitome of an establishment politician that says one thing and does another. 1.00

00:38:19.000 Talks peace while literally sanctioning the bombing of children.

00:38:24.000 That seems to be at least part of the problem.

00:38:27.000 At least part of it.

00:38:28.000 Why the hell did Hillary Clinton not win? 1.00

00:38:31.000 That is almost like people don't want to be governed by servants of potential entities from other domains.

00:38:40.000 Now we're on rumble, baby.

00:38:41.000 We're on rumble.

00:38:42.000 So, um, yeah.

00:38:44.000 There's no evidence to suggest that any voter attempted to cast their ballot via text, which was the nature of Mackie's meme, like our text your Hillary vote this way type thing.

00:38:53.000 And in this, uh, in this item that we've made in advance, we'll be rather pleased with it.

00:38:58.000 We talk about how, um, like the Democrat Party had the famous Piper strategy.

00:39:02.000 You're aware of that.

00:39:03.000 The Democrat Party used their funding to support Republican candidates that they believed would be unpopular.

00:39:11.000 So Isn't that like meddling in an election?

00:39:13.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.

00:39:15.000 Because we're going to get deeper now.

00:39:16.000 We're going to get deeper.

00:39:17.000 We're going to get wider.

00:39:18.000 We're going to get broader.

00:39:19.000 We're going to awaken.

00:39:20.000 We're going to awaken pretty hard right now.

00:39:22.000 Here's the news.

00:39:23.000 No, here's the effing news.

00:39:26.000 Thank you for choosing Fox News.

00:39:28.000 No, here's the effing news.

00:39:32.000 Meme maker Douglas Mackey has been sentenced to seven months in prison

00:39:36.000 for making disparaging memes about Hillary Clinton.

00:39:40.000 Has censorship just taken a turn into absolute insanity?

00:39:43.000 And what's the bigger crime anyway?

00:39:45.000 Disparaging memes?

00:39:47.000 Or war crimes?

00:39:48.000 Or actual election manipulation and lies in the form of, for example, Russiagate?

00:39:53.000 Let's get into it.

00:39:56.000 Let's have a look at the kind of speech that's permissible and the kind of actions that are permissible and the kind of speech and actions that are not permissible and where is the moral authority positioned right now?

00:40:06.000 Who's making these decisions and who benefits from them?

00:40:10.000 Let's have a look at a piece of news footage from the time of Douglas Mackey's arrest, and then we'll look at the context surrounding it and how this will be used as a precedent, presumably, to control free speech, to manipulate online social media discourse, and all of the other ways.

00:40:24.000 Let me know in the chat how you think it'll be manipulated.

00:40:27.000 Remember, we stream every day at these times.

00:40:29.000 If you want to become an awakened wonder, you can do that.

00:40:31.000 Download the app, follow us every day.

00:40:34.000 Let's get into this story.

00:40:35.000 A notorious Twitter troll was arrested on federal charges of election interference.

00:40:40.000 Douglas Mackey, also known by his online alter ego, Ricky Vaughn, is accused of a voter disinformation campaign during the 2016 election.

00:40:49.000 The arrest represents what could be a big change in how the federal government fights election interference.

00:40:54.000 Election interference versus propaganda versus manipulating outcomes.

00:41:00.000 These are interesting grey areas.

00:41:02.000 I suppose what we're discussing here is, is what Douglas Mackey did unique?

00:41:06.000 And even in the actual context of jokes?

00:41:10.000 Suggesting that there's a number where you can vote for Hillary Clinton?

00:41:13.000 Well, he wasn't alone in doing that.

00:41:14.000 People on both sides were doing that.

00:41:16.000 It was kind of understood to be a practical joke.

00:41:17.000 And can you imagine the effect it had?

00:41:19.000 And can you imagine the effect it had versus, for example, the Russiagate hoax or the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story four years later?

00:41:26.000 Now, this relates to activity in 2016, of course, but that in itself was a time where this hysteria was beginning to escalate.

00:41:33.000 And I think the pieces were being put in place to create what is now known as the censorship industrial complex.

00:41:38.000 When you have people being imprisoned for posting memes, when there's no evidence that it influenced the outcome of the 2016 election, it sort of shows this appetite for centralisation.

00:41:48.000 It shows an appetite to shut down dissent, to control dissidents, to punish dissidents, as well as, more ideologically and perhaps abstractly, a refusal for the Democrat Party to accept that the reason people aren't voting for them It's because they're the party of war.

00:42:02.000 They're the party of lies.

00:42:03.000 They're a party that don't deliver.

00:42:05.000 We're not going to build a wall.

00:42:06.000 We're building a wall.

00:42:07.000 We're going to make Saudi Arabia pariah. 1.00

00:42:09.000 Saudi Arabia are not a pariah.

00:42:10.000 When is there going to be a reckoning?

00:42:12.000 When is it going to get beyond, this is the problem.

00:42:14.000 These people caused the problem.

00:42:15.000 When is there going to be some introspection and some meaningful change and some recognition of the very real corruption that's taking place within that particular organization?

00:42:23.000 Mackey is accused of having used Twitter to … coordinate with other trolls in these private spaces, private group chats.

00:42:32.000 One was called War Room.

00:42:34.000 And he's accused of spreading disinformation, specifically that voters could cast their ballots via social media and text.

00:42:40.000 Now, basically, you know, what this guy did is what we're all really familiar with from the Russian internet agency.

00:42:46.000 They created fake posts.

00:42:47.000 They said that, you know, in these posts that certain celebs were on the Trump train, for instance, right?

00:42:53.000 And just like the Russian campaign, we've been saying forever.

00:42:56.000 The Russia misinformation, disinformation story has been proven to itself be disinformation and misinformation.

00:43:05.000 And here we have the legacy media in a contemporaneous report, amplifying a message that proved to be untrue and presenting in the least favorable terms imaginable.

00:43:15.000 Something that sounds to me like, just even looking at him, seems like he's just a kid messing around online rather than an alt-right terrorists. Can you see how there is nothing but condemnation

00:43:24.000 for the opponent, nothing but compassion for their own perspective.

00:43:27.000 Oh well we didn't know, we assumed Russia were interfering. Nothing but self-compassion

00:43:32.000 and self-regard. The worst attitude. That's actually the

00:43:35.000 reverse of the best values we could be aspiring to. How about we look at others as

00:43:39.000 favorably as possible and look at ourselves with some degree of scrutiny and

00:43:43.000 accountability. How about that as a perspective? There's a homegrown alt-right disinformation

00:43:49.000 campaign and it was aimed at electing Donald Trump. And quickly Brandi, we

00:43:52.000 really haven't seen the federal government policing election

00:43:55.000 interference on social media posts before, but what could this mean for the

00:43:58.000 fight against misinformation?

00:44:00.000 Well, what it's going to mean is people are going to go to prison for saying stuff that the establishment don't like.

00:44:07.000 Well, Joe, we have.

00:44:08.000 It's just that it's not been aimed at us, right?

00:44:11.000 The people working for the Internet Research Agency in Russia faced federal charges.

00:44:15.000 It's just that now the DOJ is looking into our own backyard.

00:44:19.000 I think it So what is misinformation?

00:44:28.000 And where is it coming from?

00:44:30.000 And what information is beneficial?

00:44:32.000 And what information has to be controlled?

00:44:34.000 Because it might cause you to lose all trust and faith in centralized authoritarian systems.

00:44:39.000 It may cause you to choose to disavow entirely the legacy media.

00:44:42.000 It may cause you to become disobedient Non-compliant.

00:44:45.000 A non-participant in systems of lies.

00:44:48.000 Obviously, what's being created, and this is almost a historical artifact now, coming as it does somewhat from 2016, even though Douglas Mackey's just now been sentenced to imprisonment, is it shows you the trajectory of an idea.

00:44:59.000 They started seeding misinformation and disinformation, all the while propagating it.

00:45:03.000 Remember the Steele dossier.

00:45:05.000 Remember the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:45:07.000 Remember that Russiagate wasn't true.

00:45:08.000 Remember the notorious Pied Piper strategy, where the Democrats would back Republican candidates Financially, in order to amplify a message that they thought would be favourable to their outcomes.

00:45:19.000 Now, whatever that is, it's kind of skullduggery and game-playing.

00:45:22.000 It's certainly not, Hello, I'm a politician.

00:45:24.000 I'm a public servant.

00:45:25.000 I don't have any interest, really, except for service of my country and its civilians.

00:45:30.000 Nothing else exists for me now.

00:45:31.000 All I care about is awakening you and getting the best possible deal for you in a difficult time.

00:45:36.000 It's not that, is it?

00:45:37.000 What it plainly is is, hmm, if we are able to do this, then we could move in this direction.

00:45:41.000 And if we say that there, and the fact that someone's gone to jail for sending memes that are not even that distinct from other memes under the auspices of, do you know what?

00:45:50.000 That could have cost votes.

00:45:51.000 People would have texted that number thinking they were voting for Hillary. 1.00

00:45:54.000 No wonder she didn't win the election when everybody loved her so much because of the Douglas Mackey, a once well-known creator of memes on Twitter, has been sentenced to seven months in prison.

00:46:15.000 This conviction marks a dramatic escalation in how free speech is being handled in the United States.

00:46:20.000 Yeah, you don't have it anymore.

00:46:22.000 The case was heard in the US Court of the Eastern District of New York.

00:46:25.000 Mackie, who was known as Ricky Vaughan on Twitter, was found guilty of the federal charge after making memes that jokingly encouraged Hillary Clinton supporters to cast their votes via text message.

00:46:33.000 This is not actually a viable form of voting, which Mackie and everyone else knew.

00:46:37.000 There's no evidence to suggest that any voter attempted to cast their ballot via text in response to Mackie's meme.

00:46:42.000 Sort of like a warning shot.

00:46:43.000 It's kind of like, don't do stuff like that because you'll go to jail.

00:46:46.000 Don't oppose us.

00:46:47.000 Don't dissent.

00:46:48.000 Sit down.

00:46:49.000 Do as you're told.

00:46:50.000 No one thinks, do they, that you can vote by text message.

00:46:52.000 What is there?

00:46:53.000 Throw a pebble in this bucket and Hillary Clinton grows an inch taller. 1.00

00:46:57.000 You liar! 1.00

00:46:58.000 She's still the same height! 0.99

00:46:59.000 This game is fixed! 0.99

00:47:00.000 The balls are bigger than Jennifer Love Hewitt's mouth! 1.00

00:47:02.000 Shenanigans! 0.99

00:47:03.000 You know, when this starts getting more nuanced, you start to recognize that.

00:47:05.000 The stripping away of humor, irony, beauty, aspects of human nature that are perfectly natural.

00:47:11.000 Everything vilified, everything demonized, everything looked at in the worst possible light.

00:47:16.000 Hmm, what's the worst way we could frame this?

00:47:18.000 Quite interestingly, many have noted other internet users who shared similar content regarding the option of text voting for Donald Trump were neither charged nor convicted.

00:47:26.000 Have a look at this, and this.

00:47:27.000 Right, so what?

00:47:29.000 Someone could have voted, that's another Donald Trump vote! 0.98

00:47:32.000 It's just silly.

00:47:33.000 The case is, as the New York Times reported at the time, was the first criminal case in the country involving voter suppression through the spread of disinformation on Twitter.

00:47:41.000 Just popularising that idea of misinformation, just tying it to law, just enshrining it in real penalties, so that information now can be qualified, not on the basis of subjectivity, but on the basis of objectivity and law.

00:47:53.000 This information is verifiably and legally bad.

00:47:56.000 This information is good here.

00:47:57.000 Oh, that's interesting that this information basically says, let us get on with The DOJ claimed that the meme from Mackie constituted election interference and the court agreed, despite there being no evidence to support the notion, that anyone who saw the meme was deceived by it.

00:48:17.000 The complaint the DOJ said in 2021 alleges that in 2016 Mackie established an audience on Twitter with approximately 58,000 followers.

00:48:24.000 Mackie has been found guilty by a jury of his peers of attempting to deprive individuals from exercising their sacred right to vote for the candidate of their choice in the 2016 presidential election.

00:48:35.000 Sacred?

00:48:36.000 Sacred?

00:48:37.000 Like it's an expression of divinity?

00:48:38.000 It's an expression that there's, like, a god?

00:48:41.000 No, there's a oneness and there's a beauty.

00:48:42.000 Where's that God and oneness and beauty in the advocacy for the ongoing wars that Hillary Clinton endlessly supported? 0.99

00:48:49.000 Today's verdict proves that the defendant's fraudulent actions crossed the line into criminality and flatly rejects his cynical attempt to use the constitutional right of free speech as a shield for this scheme to subvert the ballot box and suppress the vote.

00:49:01.000 Oh my God, it's a game.

00:49:03.000 The whole thing's a game.

00:49:04.000 No one's got any legitimacy anymore.

00:49:06.000 Look at how that's actually written.

00:49:08.000 Fraudulent actions cross the line into criminality and flatly rejected cynical attempts to use the constitutional right of free speech.

00:49:14.000 The right of free speech just means you can say stuff as long as that in itself isn't a crime or likely to lead to a crime.

00:49:21.000 Was that a crime, him saying vote for Hillary by text when you can't vote for Hillary by text?

00:49:26.000 Is it not more likely that some of the Russiagate stuff was influential?

00:49:29.000 The problem I think we have right now is neither side, no side, and gosh we've got to get beyond sides, are talking about Personal culpability.

00:49:36.000 When are we going to see Hilary Clinton go, that's still dossier thing, that was out of whack. 1.00

00:49:40.000 And maybe the reason people didn't vote for me in 2016 is because again and again I've been shown to be an establishment politician that uses rhetoric about compassion but when it comes to policy and action favours the interests of powerful financial and military donor groups and people just don't trust that anymore.

00:49:54.000 And the reason a figure like Trump is so successful, I see that now.

00:49:57.000 So he sounds like a normal person.

00:49:59.000 It's a spiritual problem I think fundamentally at this point.

00:50:01.000 Do you agree?

00:50:02.000 See what I'm saying?

00:50:03.000 It's like a spiritual issue more than a political one at this point.

00:50:05.000 This decision to penalise Mackey opens a Pandora's box in examining repercussions of online behaviour.

00:50:10.000 In an era increasingly shaped by social media, the contours of free speech and interference are blurred, yet it's imperative to remember that the blanket criminalisation of online content may inadvertently lead to the suppression of opinion and curb the creative liberties of citizens.

00:50:22.000 It's not inadvertent, that is what's happening.

00:50:25.000 It's deliberate and necessary because you can't maintain control where people have creative liberty.

00:50:29.000 Let me know in the chat if you agree.

00:50:31.000 On the subject of election interference and the Clinton campaign, an email released by WikiLeaks shows how the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party bear direct responsibility for propelling Donald Trump to the White House.

00:50:42.000 In its self-described Pied Piper strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new mainstream of the Republican Party in order to try to increase Clinton's chances of winning.

00:50:55.000 In a way, that kind of strategy is a bit worse than the online stuff, even if you look at those online posts in the worst possible light, which is obviously what's happening.

00:51:01.000 If you were to say, well, how does that compare to the Democrat Party accepting funding, in some cases, from ordinary Americans, but in many cases, you know, from billionaire donor class, then using that money to make donations to the opposite party as part of a strategy to amplify voices within that party that they believe will lead to electoral victory.

00:51:18.000 Now, you could call that strategic genius, although it obviously didn't work.

00:51:22.000 In fact, it failed quite remarkably.

00:51:24.000 But it's plainly not legitimate, authentic politics, is it?

00:51:27.000 Also, one of the common refrains is, oh, politics has become so polarised, all these extreme voices, can't we all just come together and create one America?

00:51:35.000 Well, yeah, but not if you actually amplify by your own reckoning the worst, most extreme voices in that party in order to specifically generate more polarisation.

00:51:46.000 How insincere, deliberate, Machiavellian that is.

00:51:49.000 How can you claim to want to heal America, create a better America, bring people together, if your actions and your expenditure demonstrate The exact opposite.

00:51:56.000 The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right, i.e. 0.87

00:52:04.000 make things worse by their own analysis.

00:52:06.000 Clinton's camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be elevated to leaders of the pack and media outlets should be told to take them seriously.

00:52:14.000 Other messages published by the whistleblowing organisation show how while the Clinton campaign was facilitating the rise of Trump, it was systematically undermining the campaign of Senator Bernie Sanders, Clinton's left-wing opponent.

00:52:24.000 So, on one hand, they are spending money to elevate voices they disagree with in order to make that party seem less favourable by their own reckoning.

00:52:30.000 They're suppressing Bernie Sanders' support within their own party because Bernie Sanders weren't what they liked either.

00:52:36.000 I mean, where is this avenue of correctness that we can exist within?

00:52:41.000 Tweet that, that could have led people the sacred right of voting.

00:52:43.000 Where's all the sancro-sanct attitude towards democracy when you're suppressing Bernie Sanders and using the Pied Piper strategy?

00:52:50.000 Either it's sacred or it isn't.

00:52:52.000 Leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee show that the organisation which is supposed to be bound to impartiality sabotaged Sanders' insurgent presidential campaign which had mobilised millions of people and inspired a massive grassroots movement.

00:53:04.000 So what Whatever that party is, and whatever complaints they might have, it's pretty extraordinary to learn that they use democracy in a way that seems to me anti-democratic and pretty disingenuous.

00:53:15.000 Even in that news report at the beginning of our video, they talked about Russiagate because back then it was still, remember that Russian interference?

00:53:21.000 That in itself was misinformation!

00:53:23.000 Have you ever seen anyone significant in that party come out and go, sorry about that, we were wrong, we were lying, but you can trust us because we always tell the truth.

00:53:31.000 We're transparent.

00:53:32.000 You can rely on us.

00:53:34.000 Hillary Clinton personally approved her campaign's plans in fall 2016 to share information with a reporter about an uncorroborated alleged server backchannel between Donald Trump and the top Russian bank.

00:53:43.000 Her former campaign manager testified in court.

00:53:46.000 In September 2021, a lawyer for Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign was indicted on charges of lying to the FBI in a 2016 meeting where he shared information about the Trump Organization and Russia.

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00:54:56.000 Okay, let's get back into this.

00:54:56.000 Good luck.

00:54:58.000 In March 2022, the Democratic National Committee in the Clinton campaign agreed to pay a $113,000 fine to the Federal Election Commission for concealing their role in producing the steel research.

00:55:09.000 A role, by the way, her campaign never admitted to, and which was only disclosed for a dogged effort.

00:55:14.000 by the House Intelligence Committee nearly a year after the 2016 election.

00:55:18.000 So that's a different perspective on election manipulation and misinformation, isn't it?

00:55:22.000 One of the key moments in the 2016 campaign was a notorious basket of deplorables comment,

00:55:27.000 which showed, I suppose, incredible insensitivity and a willingness to 0.90

00:55:30.000 condemn a significant number, about 50% over, of American voters as kind of lunatics. 0.89

00:55:36.000 You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables.

00:55:40.000 If you consider that in conjunction with a strategy to elevate voices from the,

00:55:45.000 what she would probably call the basket of deplorable aspect of that demographic, 0.79

00:55:50.000 then it shows a very confused and peculiar attitude towards democracy and which voices

00:55:54.000 should be amplified and which voices should be shut down.

00:55:57.000 Here's Hillary Clinton, even now, recently, saying that Trump supporters need to be kind of debugged or reconditioned, kind of like cult members.

00:56:05.000 It's fascinating.

00:56:07.000 And we had very bitter battles over all kinds of things.

00:56:10.000 Gun control and climate change and the economy and taxes.

00:56:14.000 But it seems like these battles are being made worse by those kind of policies and this kind of rhetoric.

00:56:18.000 It's being made worse while she's saying it, no?

00:56:20.000 But there wasn't this little tale of extremism waving, you know, wagging the dog of the Republican Party as it is today.

00:56:30.000 But that tale continues.

00:56:32.000 Further back, that tale goes back to 2008 and the banker bailout.

00:56:35.000 That tale goes back to the handling of 9-11.

00:56:38.000 You can't say that Trump supporters just burst up out of nowhere, already made deplorables and already extreme, without some kind of social context.

00:56:48.000 What is the social context?

00:56:50.000 Why is it that so many people are so angry and so mistrustful of the system?

00:56:54.000 The reason I'm angry and mistrustful of the system, although I try not to be angry, is because I don't trust the system anymore.

00:56:58.000 I've heard again and again establishment politicians say one thing and do another.

00:57:03.000 I've heard them say, we'll look after you, we'll bring people together, or we're supporting this war for humanitarian reasons, or just basically everything, all of the time, suggests you can't trust them.

00:57:12.000 Just take the pandemic period alone, from the beginning of it to the end of it.

00:57:15.000 What did you learn in that time?

00:57:17.000 Was it trust the state more?

00:57:18.000 And sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega-extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump, who... Quickly, it comes up as a mega-extremist taking their orders from Donald Trump!

00:57:31.000 That's saying they're extremists, marching orders.

00:57:33.000 What kind of images are being evoked there?

00:57:35.000 How else has Hillary Clinton described Trump supporters?

00:57:38.000 Who has no credibility left by any measure.

00:57:44.000 He's only in it for himself.

00:57:45.000 He's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions.

00:57:50.000 And when do they break with him?

00:57:52.000 Because at some point, You know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members.

00:57:59.000 Wow.

00:57:59.000 I mean, from Hillary Clinton's lips to government policy, presumably.

00:58:03.000 Perhaps we'll see that.

00:58:04.000 We're already seeing people kicked off the internet for what seem to be jokes.

00:58:09.000 And now what's being suggested is a kind of deconditioning, a de-rigging of people that support Donald Trump.

00:58:15.000 Pretty extraordinary and not that democratic, but should we be surprised?

00:58:20.000 This is by Caitlin Johnston.

00:58:21.000 This is after all the same woman who trawled with delight when she found out Muammar Gaddafi had been lynched in the streets following his US-led overthrow in Libya during her tenure as Secretary of State saying, I'm sure it did, when asked if his death had anything to do with her visit to the country.

00:58:34.000 We came, we saw, he died.

00:58:38.000 Did it have anything to do with your visit?

00:58:40.000 No.

00:58:41.000 I'm sure it did.

00:58:42.000 The same woman who, as Secretary of State, promoted the plan of arming extremists in Syria with the goal of toppling Damascus.

00:58:48.000 The same woman who, as a senator, played a pivotal role in convincing the Democratic Party to support the invasion of Iraq based on lies.

00:58:55.000 Same woman who as first lady said she urged her husband Bill Clinton to launch the bombing

00:58:59.000 campaign that would leave Serbia and Kosovo covered in cluster munitions.

00:59:03.000 The same woman who as a US presidential candidate advocated a no-fly zone in Syria which would

00:59:07.000 have required attacks on Russian war planes who violated it, and endorsed the same brinkmanship

00:59:12.000 policies in Ukraine which eventually provoked the Russian invasion.

00:59:15.000 When Tulsi Gabbard famously dubbed Clinton the Queen of War Mongers in 2019, it wasn't 0.97

00:59:20.000 just empty rhetoric, there is no woman alive who anyone could argue is more deserving of 0.86

00:59:24.000 that title.

00:59:25.000 Hillary Clinton is all the worst things about modern liberals and the Democratic Party. 1.00

00:59:29.000 She is a blood-spattered psychopath who has dedicated her life to serving all the worst 1.00

00:59:32.000 impulses of the human species, imperialism, militarism, capitalism, authoritarianism, and 0.98

00:59:37.000 yes patriarchy, wearing a grinning plastic mask of civil rights and social justice to

00:59:41.000 convince people to layer in the door.

00:59:43.000 And yet people wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton. 0.92

00:59:47.000 You basket of deplorables.

00:59:48.000 It must be election interference by that little lad with a few thousand Twitter followers rather than that litany of horrific condemnations from that article by Caitlin Johnston. 1.00

00:59:59.000 Well, there you are.

01:00:00.000 It seems to me at this point that we are involved in a considerable spiritual battle that involves all of us.

01:00:05.000 And a considerable part of that is our willingness to overlook our own previous alliances, our willingness to look at new models of democracy.

01:00:14.000 New models of organisation.

01:00:16.000 New ways of organising society.

01:00:18.000 Because it seems like, now more than ever to me, that the old ways are not working.

01:00:22.000 And the legacy media is going to do nothing but amplify and propagandise the messaging of the establishment.

01:00:29.000 The legal system, it appears in this instance, We'll do whatever they can to support the establishment.

01:00:34.000 So it becomes necessary for you and I to awaken and find new ways to come together.

01:00:39.000 New ways to organize.

01:00:41.000 New ways to transcend.

01:00:42.000 New models must be created.

01:00:44.000 I would say, pretty urgently.

01:00:46.000 But that's just what I think.

01:00:47.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.

01:00:48.000 See you in a second.

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01:00:51.000 Thank you so much.

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01:00:57.000 What do you think is more significant in a democracy?

01:01:00.000 These kind of jokes that potentially could cause confusion, could cause someone to think that they could vote by text.

01:01:07.000 It seems extraordinary to me.

01:01:09.000 Or the ongoing institutional establishment corruption that has become epitomised, at least in the views of Caitlin Johnston there, by Hillary Clinton.

01:01:17.000 Let us know where you stand on that in the chat.

01:01:20.000 Joining me now is a returning guest who I'm very happy to be speaking to because even were the subject not of value and interest, even if he hadn't written a fantastic new book, even if he wasn't wearing a hat that in itself suggests a degree of profundity, this is a man who is a genuine character in a world that can sometimes seem a little anodyne, stripped of novelty, character, casual contradictions of grandeur and Thank you for having me on today, Russell.

01:01:49.000 That was quite an introduction.

01:01:51.000 that could easily be coming from a Grecian philosopher. I'm of course

01:01:55.000 introducing Will Harris, farmer and owner of White Oak Pastures in Georgia and the

01:01:59.000 author of the book, new book, and we'll be posting a link to that in the

01:02:03.000 description, A Bold Return to Giving a Damn. Will, thanks for joining us.

01:02:10.000 Thank you for having me on today Russell, that was quite an introduction, I'm grateful for it.

01:02:14.000 Thank you sir.

01:02:16.000 Now, one of the topics that we discuss is the meat industry.

01:02:21.000 Now for me, a snowflake, a vegan, a sensitive fella who wears a toweling bathrobe to an interview with a farmer.

01:02:30.000 Even to discuss meat being industrialised at all is a difficult thing.

01:02:35.000 But when you talk about the centralisation of the meat industry, how is that distinct from the kind of farming practices that you advocate for?

01:02:45.000 And do you think it's possible to have a kind of compassionate farming or at least a type of meat farming that should be beyond the moral tenure of vegans and veganism?

01:02:59.000 How is it distinct from the abattoirs and the slaughterhouse model and the kind of concerns that come out of that?

01:03:05.000 What's the difference between centralised and decentralised in this instance, Will?

01:03:10.000 Post-World War II, the meat industry changed dramatically.

01:03:15.000 There's sweeping changes and I characterise it as centralised, industrialised and commoditised.

01:03:24.000 And the centralization that you asked about is a key element of that.

01:03:31.000 We went from having, prior to World War II, every little community, certainly every county seat, had its own little small town, independently owned abattoir butcher shop, where they actually dispatched animals, cows, hogs, sheep, goats, cut them up and sold to the local clientele.

01:03:54.000 And during that era, it was incumbent upon the butcher and the farmer to make their product the best it could be.

01:04:04.000 Because it was what they did for a living.

01:04:07.000 They were able to sell it for more if they had the reputation for producing the best meat in the community, in the county, in the state, maybe.

01:04:18.000 But the centralization that you referred to changed all that.

01:04:23.000 It became a commodity.

01:04:26.000 And it was all about taking costs out.

01:04:29.000 And it made me incredibly cheap.

01:04:33.000 And it, sadly, the cost that came out didn't necessarily, it wasn't so much efficiency as it was moving those costs to other areas, whether it be the environment, Or the welfare of the animal, or the economic shame that the farmer came from.

01:04:54.000 There's just many, many bad, bad effects that came from this centralization that has just been so effective.

01:05:05.000 We are the only four huge meat processors in the world now, I guess.

01:05:11.000 in how often you find with any industry at all that under a little scrutiny and analysis

01:05:18.000 it's revealed that industries are essentially monopolized or duopolized or there's just a

01:05:25.000 handful of companies and organizations that are able to completely co-opt and control a market

01:05:31.000 and it's pretty easy to see how these kind of institutions are able to benefit in times of

01:05:37.000 crisis. One of the things that's been uniformly observed is that in the significant crisis that

01:05:42.000 was the pandemic, whatever one's view of it was, large organizations seemed to benefit,

01:05:50.000 this is a generalization, whereas smaller businesses generally speaking suffered.

01:05:54.000 Now the agricultural industry it seems is one that is going through almost a time of

01:05:59.000 massive globalist revision.

01:06:02.000 Whether it's within wheat and crop agriculture, excuse me if I'm getting the words wrong,

01:06:08.000 it's not something I know a lot about, but I do know that when they're talking about

01:06:11.000 the fertilisers they're trying to ban stuff and slow it down, there are a lot of environmental

01:06:15.000 claims being made about agriculture.

01:06:18.000 And when you look at it, it seems like there's an agenda really to disempower farmers.

01:06:23.000 That's why there's a farmers movement, it seems to me at least, across the world.

01:06:26.000 Sri Lanka, Germany, the Netherlands, our country, India.

01:06:30.000 Farmers are protesting and Vandana Shiva, for one, says it seems like there's an attempt to separate food from the people and that farmers are a kind of integral piece of cartilage that allow the kind of smaller scale practices that you espouse and stand for.

01:06:46.000 So it's in a sense, it even goes beyond economics.

01:06:48.000 What do you think about that, Will?

01:06:51.000 Well, I think we've seen it.

01:06:52.000 I think we continue to see it.

01:06:55.000 Food is becoming increasingly a product that's not a product of nature.

01:06:59.000 It's a product of industrialization.

01:07:02.000 You know, vertical hog feeding operations, vertical greenhouses.

01:07:08.000 Food is increasingly not a product of nature.

01:07:16.000 And I think that the industrialists do that intentionally because I think that's where the profits are made.

01:07:26.000 Yes.

01:07:27.000 Plainly.

01:07:28.000 We have a question from someone watching us in our locals community, Sensitive Hearts.

01:07:33.000 She says, my question for Will Harris is how can humanity stop Bill Gates from buying up so much land?

01:07:40.000 But in addition to that question, what's the relevance and significance of this seemingly unusual yet legal practice?

01:07:48.000 You know, this whole thing with Mr. Gates is really a conundrum for me.

01:07:53.000 I'm a strong believer in property rights.

01:07:55.000 At the same time, I'm a strong believer that the ways of nature should be respected, and that's what feeds us.

01:08:06.000 Mr. Gates' approach, due to where he comes from, Microsoft, is very, very linear.

01:08:16.000 You mentioned earlier the automobile industry, very linear, computer, very linear.

01:08:21.000 What we do is very cyclical.

01:08:25.000 And when we try to, as we have done, turn a very cyclical business like food production into a very linear business, there are costs.

01:08:35.000 They get set aside for others.

01:08:38.000 You know, there's the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico.

01:08:41.000 There's pollution everywhere.

01:08:43.000 There's global warming.

01:08:45.000 All the things that we do that the cost are set aside for others to bear makes the product incredibly cheap, but the costs are not shared equally.

01:09:00.000 When it comes to the impact of, in particular, meat and meat farming, let's call it, even though I personally, you know, I don't eat animals, even though loads of people at the moment are telling me, you have to eat meat, you have to eat meat to be healthy.

01:09:17.000 Like a bunch of guests we've had on this show, Paul Saladino, he's a sort of a doctor.

01:09:21.000 You got to eat meat.

01:09:22.000 Everyone says it.

01:09:22.000 These people are saying it all the time.

01:09:24.000 I'm sure our viewers know, like are hearing a lot of themselves, those of you that are vegetarian or vegan.

01:09:29.000 I still continue to not eat meat for ethical reasons but also for ethical reasons I don't judge other people who see the world differently from me recognizing it's going to become necessary for us to form alliances that go beyond all of the various ways we could fracture and fragment our culture.

01:09:42.000 I though have noticed that there seem to be climate change arguments again that appear to be about disempowerment of individuals and certain groups rather than their stated aim of making the world a better place.

01:09:53.000 I wonder if you could touch on this aspect of climate change within agriculture and the push towards Fake meat.

01:10:03.000 The bad rap that animal production has gotten is very much fake science.

01:10:13.000 Here on my farm, a life cycle assessment was done that showed that we actually sequester three and a half pounds of carbon dioxide for every pound of beef we produce.

01:10:27.000 It's on our website, wildoatpastures.com, an international environmental research group called Qantas did the work.

01:10:39.000 What's wrong with animal agriculture is the industrialization of it.

01:10:46.000 When we took the cattle off the land and put them in feedlots,

01:10:51.000 we did turn them into carbon dioxide emitters.

01:10:55.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:10:57.000 But it doesn't need to be that way.

01:11:00.000 The villain is not the cow, it's the industrialization of the cattle industry.

01:11:05.000 Is it likely that there will ever be measures that are about reversing that industrialization?

01:11:13.000 And is that precisely what you're advocating for?

01:11:17.000 Because I feel like if there's, let's call it an establishment push towards fake meat, and if there's a global movement, it seems at least, based on the number of protests and farmers movements across the world, to disempower farmers and to shut down traditional farming practices, Does that mean that through this kind of legislation and regulation that's being imposed, the interests of these centralised and industrialised farming groups must be being challenged, mustn't they?

01:11:45.000 Or is there some way that they're able to navigate this space?

01:11:49.000 i.e.

01:11:49.000 if people are advocating for fake meat, if people are saying you've got to make these kind of changes and attacking industrialized farming, then how is it that it's not affecting the four or five beef providers in the United States and how come they're not lobbying against that?

01:12:04.000 How do these two sort of apparently opposing ideas tarry?

01:12:10.000 Well, I think that industrial food has incredible influence among our politicians.

01:12:15.000 I don't just think that, it's very clear they do.

01:12:20.000 I'm not sure we will, but if we see a meaningful change in the way our food is produced, it'll come from consumers and consumers only.

01:12:29.000 It will not come from big multinational corporations.

01:12:32.000 It will not come from government.

01:12:34.000 It will not come from any of the other entities that I could list.

01:12:37.000 It'll be a choice that people make or don't make.

01:12:42.000 And it's very difficult.

01:12:43.000 There are a lot of well-meaning people who have been falsely educated through the greenwashing efforts of big food, big tech, and it's very hard for consumers to know the truth.

01:13:05.000 It's really important, if this sort of farming is going to feed increasing numbers of us, for consumers to know who their farmer is.

01:13:15.000 You don't need to to go to the farm every week, but you need to know who's producing your food and how they're producing it.

01:13:22.000 And there are differences in how we do it.

01:13:25.000 Things that I do that I feel very, very good about and my customers feel good about might be off-putting to someone else.

01:13:33.000 So that's why it's important that we know the farmer and understand how the food is produced and not rely on this messaging that We knock out greenwashing.

01:13:45.000 It's so effective, so efficacious.

01:13:49.000 Decentralization and localization obviously amount to the same thing.

01:13:53.000 And at the beginning of our conversation, we were talking about how since the second world war, where there was an integral connection between animal agriculture and the people that were ultimately providing the meat, we've seen more and more centralization.

01:14:08.000 In your book, A bold return to giving a damn, which is a very good title. 0.99

01:14:12.000 One farm, six generations and the future of food.

01:14:15.000 Are you outlining different ways that farming could be regulated or freed from regulation?

01:14:23.000 Are you suggesting that what is happening is a real transition from agricultural techniques that are about localization, that are about working in harmony to a degree with nature, although agriculture And indeed civilization must to a point involve the subjugation of nature.

01:14:42.000 Are you suggesting that there is an alternative way?

01:14:45.000 Are you suggesting that there are?

01:14:47.000 Because we're sort of told that there's an inevitability to progress.

01:14:51.000 In fact perhaps that's what Bill Gates represents more than anything else.

01:14:55.000 there is this trajectory, there is this momentum of humankind towards science, towards technology,

01:15:03.000 towards centralisation and the management of individuals, aggregation, that each of us really,

01:15:10.000 our only individual role is to manage and monitor our individual input and output of calories and

01:15:18.000 kilojoules and work done. That we're not supposed to be participating in politics other than in

01:15:25.000 empty loud rhetoric. Certainly we're not meant to be involved in the organisation of our community,

01:15:30.000 but we're supposed to be living in top-down oriented systems of control.

01:15:36.000 So it's part of what you are trying to, and I'm not saying trying to,

01:15:40.000 Part of what you are outlining is somewhat a return to values that were present even a few generations ago, as well as challenging the prevailing logic that technology, control, patenting of seeds, laboratory-made meats is the only future that's going to provide for humankind.

01:16:05.000 Along those lines, what we advocate for clearly is localization as opposed to centralization.

01:16:12.000 And it's about knowing the food provider and how they do it as opposed to commodities, which is a race to the bottom.

01:16:20.000 Commoditization, almost by definition, means meeting lower standards, which just barely got to be above.

01:16:34.000 What I hope happens with the book is that it allows sophisticated consumers to start to understand that the cheap cost that commodity food commands in the marketplace is full of offset expenses that's borne by society as a whole.

01:16:56.000 And it's wrong.

01:16:57.000 It's simply wrong.

01:16:59.000 But Incredible amounts of money are made doing it, and the messaging, greenwashing we refer to, is so, so powerful.

01:17:11.000 A little more on this question comes from Peace Love Light.

01:17:15.000 Hello there, who's with us right now.

01:17:17.000 I saw you on the panel with RFK, she or he or whoever says, you discussed how you pay your people well while adhering to an ethical model.

01:17:27.000 How can we duplicate your model throughout the world?

01:17:30.000 What are the procedures that every farmer can put in place today that will bring them the success that you've had?

01:17:38.000 So I went from having 25 years ago three minimum wage employees to today we've got about 180 employees that make well above the county average.

01:17:49.000 Now I'm not really proud of what my employees make.

01:17:52.000 They make all I can afford to pay them.

01:17:54.000 But the fact is it's a lot better under this model than it was under the commodity model I used to participate in.

01:18:02.000 And I think it's the way it should be.

01:18:04.000 You know, the industrial food system that feeds 90-something percent of us is driven by cheaper, cheaper, cheaper, taking cost out of the production.

01:18:19.000 And those costs so often are born in other segments.

01:18:24.000 You know, we have impoverished rural America by raising cheap, cheap, cheap food.

01:18:32.000 And that process goes on and on.

01:18:35.000 It's impoverishment of various communities as this trend continues is one of the unaddressed aspects.

01:18:44.000 And additionally, I suppose, something that we're becoming more aware of, but that is also difficult to discuss, is the impact of processed foods on health.

01:18:53.000 The impact on meat that is being treated in a variety of ways, raised in a variety of ways, industrialized to use the term that you seem to be using, is also something that we don't discuss.

01:19:03.000 Similarly, the impact, the eventual impact and cost of eating food that isn't healthy.

01:19:09.000 I'm surprised, Will, how often there seems to be a kind of anthropological clue in the way that we should behave, i.e.

01:19:18.000 given that we were not evolved And for thousands of years did not live with access to, although I do believe in a divine creator, don't take my use of the word evolved to mean I don't believe in the Lord of Light that created all reality, a one loving God behind all of us supporting us even now.

01:19:36.000 What I want to say is when it comes to diet, for many thousands of years, we would not be able to access sugar, we would not be able to access fat.

01:19:43.000 And it seems that the further we move away from the models of our long custom, the more likely it is that there are impacts to health, that there are impacts psychologically, that there are community and social impacts.

01:19:56.000 So along with this sort of making, commodifying or commoditizing the process in the way that you describe, Will, the impact of that in terms of the economic impact on rural communities and the abandonment of a whole sector of society, That has corollaries throughout industry, you know, like in this country when mining communities were abandoned, when manufacturing jobs were lost, all forms of industry ultimately stripped back and stripped down, communities abandoned.

01:20:25.000 It's interesting to see this happening in the area of agriculture and food, but in addition to the social and economic impact, there are health impacts.

01:20:33.000 I suppose a part of your book is that the way that you raise animals is, I suppose, are you saying that it's ethically better if you're going to kill animals at all, and that it's better from a nutritional perspective?

01:20:46.000 Is that an aspect of this?

01:20:49.000 Yes, there's two very separate things there.

01:20:51.000 But, you know, when I was an industrial commodity cattleman, which I was successfully for 20 years, I thought I was a great husband of my animals.

01:21:05.000 I believed Because it's what I learned from my industrial father and from the University of Georgia College of Agriculture, that if I kept the animals well-fed, in a comfortable temperature range, and didn't intentionally inflict pain and suffering on them, that is great animal husbandry.

01:21:25.000 I felt very good about it.

01:21:27.000 Until I realized that, giving the animals the opportunity to express their natural cycles is just as important.

01:21:38.000 I mean, being able for a cow to be able to roam and graze, a hog in a feedlot, a chicken in a confinement facility is not allowing the animals to express instinctive behaviors and it's a form of cruelty.

01:21:53.000 So we change that.

01:21:55.000 And the same is true with any aspect of the industrial model that you want to track back to its source.

01:22:03.000 It was all done to take cost out of production with very little consideration for the impact on the environment, the impact on rural America, and the impact on the cruelty of the animals.

01:22:24.000 I talk about, as I often do, with a variety of experts, the impact of centralisation, industrialisation, commoditisation, beyond your area of expertise, agriculture, just across industry, across politics.

01:22:40.000 It's extraordinary to me how quickly we're being moved away from the conditions of our origin.

01:22:47.000 And of course, In progress in terms of finding better, more comfortable, more congenial ways to live would seem like a natural part of the drive of any human and of any community.

01:22:59.000 But it seems like in part of your vision, as well as being an economic one, I recognize that you're a business person and that from making this transition from a more conventional industrial farmer to a more ethical, conscious, aware, localized, less cruel, More nutritional farmer.

01:23:18.000 It appears that there have been benefits for you.

01:23:21.000 I hope there have been benefits for you.

01:23:23.000 But it seems, beyond that, it would seem to me that this is the kind of model that should be promoted systemically.

01:23:33.000 And what I'm saying by that is it shouldn't be an advantage to industrialize agriculture.

01:23:39.000 And if it is, because of economic and financial imperatives, Any sensible system and any switched-on conscious political movement would prohibit that, would regulate on behalf of that.

01:23:52.000 Do you see in the political sphere any attempt to make your type of farming practices more popular, more accessible, more replicable, or do you see the opposite, Will?

01:24:06.000 Well, I've seen the opposite for all my life.

01:24:09.000 You know, the You raise a wonderful point.

01:24:14.000 Food production, the operation of a farm, is meant to be very cyclical.

01:24:19.000 Very cyclical.

01:24:21.000 We have turned it into an industry that's very linear.

01:24:24.000 This all happened in the last 80 years.

01:24:26.000 It became very linear.

01:24:31.000 When you take a cyclical system and make it linear, you can take great costs out of it.

01:24:38.000 But the cost to just move somewhere else, it really don't go away.

01:24:44.000 Yeah, when you say about the cyclical model, I suppose that is a model that is harmonious and it's a model that reveres nature and the natural movements of the system.

01:24:57.000 I have a question somewhat founded on that.

01:25:00.000 when before you said it's only consumers that can influence these models.

01:25:05.000 What it seems to me is that when we are acting and that our culture induces this state as consumers,

01:25:13.000 as individuals that don't have communal connections to one another, that don't even in many cases

01:25:19.000 have an identity beyond our ability to interface with markets, to buy products, to look at screens.

01:25:27.000 And that again seems to be the trend.

01:25:29.000 It's very difficult to imagine us organizing and having that kind of impact.

01:25:34.000 I wonder if you're familiar with someone called Helena Norberg-Hodge, who's been advocating for localism

01:25:39.000 for a long, long while for local markets, local farms, local communities, even local currencies.

01:25:46.000 And I wonder if you acknowledge that there is a limit to how much can be achieved by A collection of individuals, indeed, isn't that one of the defining problems of our time?

01:25:58.000 So many of us, you know, the very idea of the silent majority, so many of us would prefer peaceful, local, connected, less synthetic, less commodified modes of living, but those people, this great silent we, is not empowered politically, other than as consumers, and it's very difficult to organise in that way, Will.

01:26:24.000 I think that most thinking citizens would realize that local, at least in terms of food production, which is what I'm really able to talk about, local is better for many, many, many reasons.

01:26:41.000 Sadly, people are busy and people don't have time to focus on exactly the way the food is produced beyond the messaging that's put out by the big multinational food companies and tech companies.

01:26:57.000 So I think that the thinking person that really puts the energy into it can quickly and easily realize that the industrialization, commoditization, centralization has done horrible things to our food supply.

01:27:13.000 We can talk about it all day.

01:27:15.000 The Ability to step outside that is hard.

01:27:20.000 If you live in a neighborhood or an urban situation, it's hard to find a place to buy food that's raised properly that costs more.

01:27:32.000 That'll cost more.

01:27:33.000 Yeah.

01:27:34.000 And especially when the messaging from the big multinational food companies is telling you that this stuff we've got on the shelf here is the best you can get.

01:27:43.000 So it's very difficult.

01:27:45.000 And I have been, I got to tell you that 25 years ago when I moved from the industrial model to what I do now, at some level I thought I was an early innovator that was going to be helping change the way we produce food.

01:28:00.000 I would not have said that out loud, but at some level I thought that.

01:28:04.000 But it hadn't worked out that way.

01:28:08.000 It appeared to be, but the greenwashing has become so good that uh you can go on and on about things that are done but you know you can buy you i don't think i told you this before but you can buy beef labeled as american grass-fed beef and the animal was born raised and slaughtered in uruguay or australia or new zealand and the package plainly and legally says product of the usa

01:28:42.000 So it's so, so difficult for consumers to know what they're buying unless they put a lot of energy and time into it to know who the producer is.

01:28:52.000 And they probably have to spend more money for it because they're covering the costs that otherwise are spun off to society. 0.91

01:29:02.000 We've got a fantastic question from Alpine Lake and see if you can find that guys and pull it up into the screen.

01:29:09.000 I want to remind our viewers and show any new viewers what happened last time Will was on our show.

01:29:15.000 Now at that time we were talking a lot About dear Hunter Biden and Hunter Biden's business practices, and Will was patiently waiting for the interview to begin, watching the conversation take place where Hunter defended his business practices, perhaps his place on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian natural gas company, and the other questions that arose out of the Hunter Biden laptop story.

01:29:46.000 This is how he defended himself when speaking to a mainstream legacy media journalist.

01:29:52.000 Let's have a look at this.

01:29:54.000 I don't have to do sit here and open my kimono as it relates to how much money I make or

01:29:59.000 make or did or didn't.

01:30:01.000 But this like.

01:30:02.000 When we were talking about that, like at the time before, I opened your kimono is a very

01:30:07.000 evocative piece of language.

01:30:09.000 I wasn't aware that Will Harris was waiting there, and look, here I am sort of discussing it.

01:30:13.000 Don't bring a kimono into it!

01:30:15.000 Will, thank you so much for joining us on the show.

01:30:18.000 Thank you for having me, but full disclosure, I do not own a kimono.

01:30:28.000 Well, you're one of the few men who I would welcome the opportunity to interview in a kimono, open or closed, or in any state.

01:30:37.000 But I imagine that you are a person that simply sleeps naked, is going to be my first guess.

01:30:42.000 Maybe, I don't know what you wear in lieu of pyjamas.

01:30:44.000 Why are you getting into this?

01:30:46.000 Sorry.

01:30:48.000 I do sleep naked.

01:30:49.000 I do not own pyjamas or a kimono.

01:30:53.000 We can confirm that now that Will Harries is a man who sleeps naked.

01:30:59.000 Will, we're going to send you a kimono.

01:31:00.000 It's something we've been planning for a long while.

01:31:02.000 We're just trying to find one that's right and duly erotic.

01:31:07.000 And then it's coming to you in Georgia.

01:31:09.000 Well, you said you wouldn't send me one last time, Russell, and never came, so your credibility is a little bit suspect here.

01:31:16.000 A little bit.

01:31:17.000 Credibility with the issue.

01:31:19.000 Right, let's do it now.

01:31:21.000 I'll send you this bathrobe, which I love, but it's got to be silk.

01:31:24.000 I'm thinking it's got to be silk, and I'm thinking it's got to be short.

01:31:28.000 Will, will you join us to answer our final question on individual and collective, how we can drive change individually and collectively over on locals, which is our community?

01:31:39.000 Would you stay with us just for a few more minutes to answer that question there for us?

01:31:44.000 Thanks, Will.

01:31:45.000 Cheers, man.

01:31:45.000 I really appreciate that.

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