In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, host Russell Brand is joined by Veena Shiva and Shania Twain to discuss a new piece of breaking news about Joe Biden and his relationship with a Ukrainian gas company, and how it ties into 9/11 and the JFK assassination. Plus, a new conspiracy theory about the mother of all conspiracy theories. Stay Free with Russell Brand wherever you get your news and let's talk about it. Stay Free! Subscribe to Stay Free to get immediate access to all new episodes streaming live on all major podcasting platforms, including Vimeo, Podchaser, and The Huffington Post. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/OurAdvertisers and use the promo code: "ELISSA" to receive 10% off your first purchase when you enter the coupon code: STAYFREE at checkout. This offer ends on December 31st, 2019. Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your fellow podcasting friends! Stay free! and spread the word to your friends about this amazing podcasting community! And don't forget to tell us what you thought of this episode and what you think of it on social media about it! We'll be listening to it on Anchor.fm and tagging us on Insta: and we'll be posting it on Instapreneurs and Instapaper! Thanks for Listening and sharing it on your stories, Insta! & tagging us! Love ya! Timestamps! Cheers, - Jeff Perla, Caitie, Sarah, Sarah & Shania, Sarah, Caitlyn, Rachel, and Shani, . Tim, Amy, and Sarah, and Jon, and John, and Joe, and Ben, and the rest of the crew at The Root. - Thank you for listening to this episode! - Thank you so much, Jon, Jon & Jon, Jon, John, Ben, Ben & Ben, & the Crew, and thanks for listening? Thanks, Jon and Jon & Ben - Yvonne, and Jake, and so much more! - Sarah, Jake, Caitlin, and all of your support is so much love, and thank you for all your support and support, and we're so grateful for all the love and support and all the work you're listening and support.
00:01:30.000People sense that real change is about to happen, that the institutions are crumbling.
00:01:34.000That the media is falling apart, that their funding models don't work, that their advertising is collapsing, that they don't know how to cope with this degree of dissent and it's all because of you and the great power within you.
00:02:16.000That great scar on the American psyche.
00:02:19.000We cannot talk about this on YouTube, but there's a new revelation, and if this is true, and the reporting suggests it is, this is groundbreaking.
00:02:27.000This shows disdain for the American people and lies at the heart of government, and we will be talking to you about that in ten minutes' time.
00:02:45.000And it's become a term, as you know, as you taught us, that they use to shut down debate.
00:02:50.000It's interesting that conspiracy theorists often talk about ideas that are not amenable to the interests of powerful elites that Joe Biden governs for.
00:02:59.000When Joe Biden told those donors Nothing will fundamentally change.
00:04:43.000Shannon Swan, a world-renowned reproductive health professor who believes the modern world is threatening sperm counts and imperiling the future of the human race.
00:04:51.000Sometimes, do you think that the human race is worth saving?
00:04:53.000Do you ever get into a state of despair and think, it's humanity itself.
00:05:09.000Christ may not have had to deal with phthalates, which are sort of this toxin in food that's getting down into what I call the sperm duct and messing with your testy juices.
00:05:18.000We're still on YouTube, and I'll tell you what, if YouTube regulators, and you know that the WHO set their policy around healthcare, for example, If the YouTube regulators have any idea of what we're about to say, you know, like when they put a warning at the top of all our videos, or like, you know, if you look at Joe Rogan's podcasts on Spotify down the menu, COVID advice, COVID advice, COVID advice, like, you know, like also
00:07:02.000You know where Joe Biden's announced that he's gonna be running again?
00:07:05.000Through a beautiful piece of propaganda that we have analysed, scrutinised, and debunked, essentially, because we've offered a rebuttal for many of his points about freedom.
00:07:29.000Freedom, you will let us down though, Joe Biden, because you will make all sorts of claims, whether it's sick days for workers.
00:07:37.000Well, once you've said nothing's going to fundamentally change, what you've essentially said is, I am going to manage this nation for the elites, right?
00:10:42.000You could take the five worst presidents in American history And put them together and they would not have done the damage Joe Biden has done to our nation in just a few short years.
00:10:58.000So we've had a look at who we think, and let's know who you think are the worst presidents, but let's have a look at who we claim are the worst presidents in American history.
00:11:07.000You can let us know in the chat who you think the worst ones are.
00:11:09.000So this is what we're offering, but let's hear your offers.
00:11:12.000James Buchanan, He refused to challenge the spread of slavery.
00:11:16.000That's bad, and he should at least challenge it.
00:13:38.000I mean, in a conversation that we will be having soon with David Sirota from The Liver, I think we'll be talking about the oratory skill that Trump possesses and the ability as to exploit the apertures.
00:13:51.000You think you'll be talking about that, do you?
00:15:07.000Which one of you didn't think that actually bombing the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was as bad as Clinton just making a downstairs mistake writing a letter with the pen of life?
00:15:47.000Oh yeah, because I'm still not actually over the current attempt to bring about Armageddon by provoking the great bear that is Russia through the proxy war in Ukraine, which seems to me to be somewhat connected to the military-industrial complex that can't pass an audit.
00:16:05.000They've spent billions and billions supporting this war.
00:16:08.00070% of the weapons, we just don't even know where they're gone.
00:16:36.000It's nothing to do with those semiconductors.
00:16:37.000Those semiconductors, don't worry about them.
00:16:39.000Them semiconductors, I don't even know who they are.
00:16:42.000So like, yeah, this is the next US proxy war.
00:16:45.000Let us know in the chat if you think it is.
00:16:46.000And also keep telling us who you think are the worst presidents, because we obviously can't rely on our own research team to spot a literal nuclear bomb dropped on an independent nation.
00:16:57.000Our Reagan for mentally ill homeless people.
00:19:20.000Make the basic case for why Americans not only should care about what happens in Taiwan, but should be willing to spill American blood and treasure to defend Taiwan.
00:19:43.000About 50% of international trade goes through the international straits, but I think more importantly, Chuck, is that the TSMC manufactures 90% of the global supply of advanced semiconductor chips.
00:20:01.000Angus Brennan, it almost sounds like...
00:20:03.000It's just told us what it is. 90% of these advanced semiconductors, which I don't know, besides the computers
00:20:08.000and computer chips, you need them, innit?
00:20:09.000You do need them, yeah. Weapons as well.
00:20:13.000They're fundamental, yeah, to the American project.
00:20:16.000Right, you just told us that's what it's for. Like, you know, there's always some economic and financial reason.
00:20:21.000If your ideology is ultimately economic and financial, sort of late corporatist zombie capitalism, call it whatever you want to, then that will be the ideology that drives your actions.
00:20:30.000Certainly the significant actions that undergird your entire economic and political system.
00:20:33.000We've already established that the United States of America cannot exist without war.
00:20:37.000That's why you can't start unravelling like the British monarchy, for example, because once you start looking at it, the whole thing just stops making sense.
00:20:43.000We'll be doing a coronation special, by the way, next week.
00:20:46.000So anyway, after saying, look, we've got to go over there because of them semiconductors, he sort of almost remembers in the middle of the interview, or maybe like they have a chip inside them that gets activated by a central control.
00:20:56.000That's a conspiracy theory, I'm just making that up.
00:20:58.000Unlike the conspiracy theory we'll be telling you about exclusively on Rumble.
00:21:15.000They might as well have because they do use things like they all use the same word and do crazy stuff and have kangaroo courts in congress where they call legitimate journalists like so-called journalists and attack them and then threaten to imprison them.
00:21:26.000I mean there's all sorts of craziness going on.
00:21:28.000Anyway, watch this dude now about to say something like, he just goes, oh sorry, I'm in democracy and freedom.
00:24:06.000Speculatively, hypothetically, if prior to the pandemic, just hypothetically, there had been like a series of like drills where like, oh, in the event that there were, here are some things we've do and possibly we don't.
00:24:18.000Imagine if you found out, for example, that, and this is again hypothetical, that China had already invented medications for an as-yet Not invented, an emergent condition.
00:24:50.000The only thing that could make all these unnecessary wars even worse, the suffering, the death, the needless loss of life for Americans and natives of the various countries, Ukrainian blood spilled, Russian blood spilled, all children of God here to participate in the miracle of life together.
00:25:09.000The only thing that could make all this killing and profiteering worse would be discovering that you, the American taxpayer, are literally funding it Without ever being asked if you would like to.
00:25:22.000Ordinary Americans are being forced to subsidize the military-industrial complex.
00:25:32.000A new report released by the Institute for Policy Studies examines Americans' income taxes in relation to military and security spending to show just how much of the average person's tax bill is going to the likes of cluster bombs rather than hospitals.
00:25:45.000Would you, sir, could I ask, would you like hospitals and schools?
00:25:51.000Well, yes, I suppose so, because eventually everyone will get sick and die, and having hospitals can only be a good thing.
00:26:23.000I was much more interested in the schools and hospitals.
00:26:25.000Well, frankly, this was just a survey, not an electoral process, because you will never be democratically invited to participate in that by either party.
00:26:35.000Whoever you vote for, you will never get to vote for anything meaningful, because there's already a consensus that you're only going to quarrel endlessly about hot-button cultural topics.
00:26:44.000Meanwhile, powerful elites are stewarded by whoever That's a grand a year, by the way, that you can't spend on food or whatever else.
00:28:12.000Mind you, at that point, I've rejoined the limitless consciousness that abides in all things, that was present before the Big Bang, that is present beyond that which can be determined and measured.
00:28:38.000If you're watching us on the oo-oop or a toy-tar, we're going to have to leave you now because we're about to talk about something so controversial and you are gonna love it.
00:28:48.000I'm telling you, you're gonna want to join us on Rumble.
00:31:48.000Alright, no, listen, if you've just joined us on Rumble because you want the truth, you can handle the truth, and we believe you can handle the truth.
00:31:58.000This is not only a groundbreaker, it's a ground zero breaker.
00:32:02.000A declassified court filing from the Guantanamo Military Commission, the court considering the cases of defendants accused of planning the 9-11 terrorist attacks in New York City, suggests that two of the hijackers were being closely monitored and possibly recruited by the CIA BEFORE Before the attacks on the World Trade Center.
00:32:21.000Is this emerging evidence, Gareth Roy, that the CIA was somehow involved in the execution of 9-11?
00:32:27.000I mean, you don't want them in any way... and is it at best Evidence that the CIA should have intervened and prevented it?
00:32:40.000Well, we already don't have an open discourse about 9-11, don't we?
00:32:43.000I mean, Saudi Arabia... Going back to Saudi Arabia and making them pariahs, I mean, we know that there were, like, financial ties between... Well, it certainly claimed, allegedly, very nice, that, like, there was financial assistance provided... Actually, Ron Rumbaugh, I don't need to press that.
00:33:03.000That the terrorists involved were being supplied financially by Saudi Arabia, and that the reason why Bush administration downplayed the Saudi connection was obviously because of oil.
00:33:13.000I mean, coming back to the same old issue that we were talking about regarding the semiconductors.
00:33:17.000So that's already one thing that isn't being thoroughly investigated, or so it hadn't been revealed.
00:33:21.000I also heard that there were members of the Saudi royal family that were flown out.
00:33:25.000I think that was in like a Michael Moore documentary.
00:34:19.000A former FBI special agent with extensive knowledge of counter-terrorism and counter-intelligence matters said, the attempt to recruit al-Hamzi and al-Mindar was an operation directed by the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:34:47.000Well, obviously this will all be under, for many people, under the kind of banner of conspiracy.
00:34:52.000But also, I mean, the reason why there's conspiracy and conspiracies around this, or alleged conspiracies, is because we don't obviously have all the truths around it.
00:35:03.000I mean, just what we were talking about, kind of the financial ties and things.
00:35:06.000I mean, the American people deserve that, surely, don't they?
00:35:13.000Now, do you want to see the ties between the Biden family and Burisma, an energy company in Ukraine, or do you want to see Rod Hull operating a marionette land-bound bird, aka the emu, irritating Snoop Dogg on a British TV show?
00:35:31.000Tell us in the chat and we will go to whatever one you... One or the other, is it?
00:36:29.000For a moment we saw our guest waiting, Shanna Swan, an eminent doctor who's improved that the impact of phthalates on male sperm count is detrimental and maybe even deleterious to our entire species down the line.
00:36:41.000And I will tell you now, At a glance, possibly Shanna Swan was not amused, possibly by your constant harping on about Beethoven.
00:37:02.000Let's have a look at this and then we'll show you how the Biden family have affiliations with Ukrainian energy companies that amount to corruption, potentially.
00:37:44.000In my mind, there was a bit where Snoop Dogg... He attacked Snoop Dogg.
00:37:47.000And Snoop Dogg's like, I ain't having this.
00:37:48.000But you could see that Snoop Dogg sort of rejected the premise.
00:37:51.000Yeah, have you mixed up Snoop Dogg with Michael Parkinson again?
00:37:54.000You've done it again, you're always doing that.
00:37:57.000I do mix up British, Yorkshire, TV presenter Michael Parkinson and 80s and 90s hip-hop sensation Snoop Dogg frequently.
00:38:09.000Hey listen, should we have a look at the Biden family and their systemic corruption?
00:38:14.000Simply to present you this idea, how can you be optimistic about four more years of a Biden administration?
00:38:21.000How can you equate it with change or getting the job done when there are evident financial ties that are, I would say, compromising an amount of the type
00:38:31.000of corruption that should be systemically cleansed. They need a kind of enema, a kind of moral enema.
00:38:38.000They need to be flushed of the systemic corruption that governs them. What you need,
00:38:43.000essentially, is an end to career You need an end to the systemic monetization of the political process through lobbying and donations and people in Congress owning stocks and shares and the companies their men are regulating.
00:39:45.000Perhaps under Joe Biden, we will live in a futuristic utopia with a decrepit, corrupt, elderly man as the figurehead for this glorious new future.
00:39:56.000Let's see how the mainstream are handling this.
00:39:59.000First tonight, President Biden making it official he is running, well aware of concerns about his age.
00:40:04.000He hopes the American people will let him, quote, finish the job.
00:40:07.000President Biden came into this term as the oldest person in U.S.
00:40:46.000It's that he is the very epitome of a career politician that will say whatever's necessary while There's so many problems with Joe Biden, we've not got time to list all of them, but what we'll focus on is a former CIA head saying that he helped Joe Biden make the Hunter Biden laptop story look like Russian disinformation when it was true from the beginning, and that potentially Hunter Biden's ties to Ukrainian energy companies were greatly assisted by his father.
00:41:15.000Just imagine for a moment that these were stories about Donald Trump, who I also don't think is the solution, I know some of you do.
00:41:21.000Can you imagine how much saturated media coverage this would get?
00:41:25.000is working with a Ukrainian energy company, Burisma.
00:41:28.000Donald Trump was visiting Ukraine to get him that job, potentially.
00:41:33.000That story would be everywhere, all of the time.
00:41:36.000The problem, I say, with the liberal establishment is their fetishization of the small differences between them and more overtly corrupt political entities.
00:41:45.000Now despite concerns of his handling of the economy and his age, it does appear President Biden is looking to face those challenges head-on and is prepared for another four years at the White House.
00:41:56.000He's not facing the problems head-on, he's just carrying on being president even though he's much too old and apparently much too corrupt.
00:42:03.000Even in a system that allows a certain degree of corruption, maybe his corruption is egregious.
00:42:07.000Certainly a former head of the CIA seems to be saying so.
00:42:11.000In the final weeks of the 2020 presidential campaign, the New York Post reported on the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop, alleging he used his father's position for personal gain, a claim the president's son has denied.
00:42:25.000Less than a week later, more than 50 former intelligence officials released a statement that the laptop had all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.
00:42:34.000Our own conversations with journalists like Michael Schellenberger have educated us and helped us to understand that this is how the system works.
00:42:42.000What happens is, is someone says, you might want to watch out for some laptop stories.
00:42:47.000Then when that story breaks, because they already know that story is about to break, you regard it as misinformation.
00:42:53.000What happened is, allegedly, Joe Biden or his administrative team contacted the CIA and said, could you put together a letter with 50 signatories from the CIA saying that this story is Russian disinformation?
00:43:06.000So when the story broke, the Biden administration were able to say, hey, this is nothing to do with us.
00:43:09.000The CIA are saying that it's disinformation, misinformation, malinformation.
00:43:14.000The fact is, it was a strategy to prevent a very damaging story influencing the public and prevent them from voting for the Biden administration.
00:43:21.000The idea that he would stand again is ridiculous.
00:43:25.000Notice that these categories of misinformation, malinformation and disinformation are being escalated, elevated, that we're all hearing about them all the time, simply so there are means, methods and opportunities to control and censor the type of data we get access to.
00:43:38.000Not to protect us, but to control the information that we see and the type of decisions we might make The opinions we might form.
00:43:45.000According to a letter released Thursday night from the Republican chairman of the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees, former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morrell told congressional investigators the days after the laptop story, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, then a Biden campaign advisor, reached out to Morrell and set in motion the events that led to the intelligence official's public statement.
00:44:07.000The problem is you start to feel like you've heard this story a thousand times.
00:44:12.000The problem is you start to find it hard to engage in this information because really it just confirms something that you've long sensed.
00:44:19.000That the system is completely corrupt.
00:44:21.000The politicians that are in charge of you are corrupt and are in league with corporate and financial interests.
00:44:26.000That they use the deep state to control the media and that the idea that they're being offered to you is a fresh alternative is ridiculous.
00:44:34.000The CIA acted on behalf of the president in controlling a story that could have affected the outcome of an election.
00:44:42.000The fact is this, only through the imposition of centralized authority through censorship, through new regulations to be able to lock people down, the ability to control social media spaces, can the inertia towards devolution be stopped.
00:44:56.000All of us are starting to realise now that the Republican Party and the Democrat Party are both corrupt.
00:45:01.000That career politicians are not the answer.
00:45:03.000That there needs to be significant changes in our economic, financial and sociological systems and that neither of those parties are going to deliver that change.
00:45:11.000The media and the government broadly are trying now to impose narratives that confine our conversation to convenient framing for them.
00:45:19.000No one wants the rise of new independent media voices, the rise of new independent political movements, because that is precisely what's required to end this kind of institutional corruption.
00:45:31.000The idea that there could be an election in 2024 between two elderly men, neither of whom are going to meaningfully change the system, is ridiculous and tells us the deeper truth that we all need to come to terms with.
00:45:43.000But that's not the only shady deal involving the Biden family.
00:45:47.000There's the laptop, there's the control of the story around the laptop, but what about its contents?
00:45:51.000What about the financial relationships between the Biden family and Ukrainian energy companies?
00:45:57.000Len Vice President Joe Biden visited Ukraine on a mission to bolster the country's energy industry days after his son Hunter joined the board of natural gas company Burisma in 2014, which a former White House stenographer claims implicates the now eight-year-old in a foreign influence peddling kickback scheme.
00:46:13.000So I'm sitting back there with a tape recorder.
00:46:15.000Jake Sullivan comes back and somebody asks him about fracking.
00:46:19.000His answer is, well, we're bringing a lot of American assistance over for fracking.
00:46:23.000Burisma was the direct beneficiary of that fracking.
00:46:27.000At the time, Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma, and Joe Biden is bringing American taxpayer money to enrich that company and himself and his family.
00:46:39.000But that's only two members of the Biden family that are demonstrably corrupt, it appears.
00:46:43.000There's still probably loads of other Bidens that are completely reliable.
00:46:47.000On Monday, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer revealed we've identified six additional members of Joe Biden's family who may have benefited from the Biden family's businesses that we are investigating, bringing the total number of those involved or benefiting to nine.
00:47:01.000Last month, Comer announced his committee had found evidence that at least three Biden family members and two associates received payments that originated from China in 2017, fewer than two months after Joe Biden left office as Barack Obama's vice president.
00:47:15.000Bank records subpoenaed by the committee show that State Energy HK Limited, a firm affiliated with Chinese Communist Party-backed energy company CEFC China Energy, wired $3 million to Biden family associate Rob Walker in March 2017, who then divvied it up over a period of about three months, Comer said.
00:47:31.000It appeared that first son, Hunter Biden, received about $610,000 in payments as part of the 2017 deal, while first brother, James Biden, got roughly $360,000, and the president's daughter-in-law, Haley Biden, received $25,000.
00:47:44.000The panel's March memo also enlisted an unknown Biden, who received four payments in 2017, totaling $70,000.
00:47:51.000Hunter Biden's longtime business partner, Eric Schwerin, made at least eight visits to the White House in 2016, bringing his total number of visits during the Obama-Biden administration Is this good enough for you as a system of government?
00:48:06.000Is this good enough to warrant another four years of Biden administration?
00:48:10.000Are you willing to accept that degree of nepotism and corruption?
00:48:15.000If you are a Democrat supporter, would you not be appalled if the same exact things were being said of the Trump family?
00:48:22.000What does it say about our political systems more broadly that we just accept this kind of corruption?
00:48:29.000What it shows you is that Joe Biden is the perfect symbol for where American democracy is right now.
00:48:35.000The appearance of general conviviality, but deep state corruption when it comes to the misuse of CIA powers, inappropriate financial behavior when it comes to members of his own family, A peculiar coincidence that soon after these connections with Ukraine and China there are wars that involve those countries on the horizon.
00:48:53.000It doesn't instill a great deal of trust, does it?
00:48:56.000It seems that the media and American politics more broadly are in alliance with one another in some desperate attempt to maintain some kind of centralized status quo.
00:49:06.000When all of the evidence points to the dawning of a new political era, more devolution, More decentralization.
00:49:14.000A new experimentation with federalism.
00:49:16.000It's time, I think, to consider some radically different political solutions.
00:49:20.000How can you be motivated to get out and vote, let alone be excited about the potential for voting for Joe Biden in 2024, knowing that whether or not these actions are legal, they certainly feel corrupt.
00:49:32.000They're certainly not the kind of political leaders that we're going to require if we're going to change the world.
00:49:37.000How do these kind of stories make you feel about your political system?
00:49:40.000How do they make you feel about your media?
00:49:42.000How do they make you feel about deep state involvement in managing the outcomes of an election at a time when people are super excited that Fox are about to pay out a bunch of money because of saying untrue things about Dominion voting machines?
00:49:54.000It shows you that even when you can't demonstrate electoral fraud, the whole system is fraudulent anyway.
00:50:01.000And people will criticize me for encouraging voter apathy.
00:50:04.000Oh, this is what leads to people not voting.
00:50:06.000Now what leads to people not voting is there's nothing worth voting for, there's no one worth investing in, the media is totally corrupt, and I am actually advocating for real, passionate, genuine change instead of continuing down this line of atrophying corruption.
00:50:21.000Why are we trapped in some sort of abusive relationship where we allow ourselves to be treated like this and then continue voting for them and advocating for them?
00:50:29.000Surely it's time for new independent voices.
00:50:31.000What's wrong with breaking up these systems that are only there to serve the kind of financial corruption and deep state collusion that these stories demonstrate?
00:50:39.000There is the possibility now for new parties.
00:50:42.000The Republican Party aren't going to deliver real change.
00:50:44.000The Democrat Party aren't going to deliver real change.
00:50:47.000Dear, sweet, doddering old sods are going to give you nothing but the same old corruption.
00:50:52.000It's time for new independent political voices.
00:50:55.000And now there is the technology and the media to carry their message.
00:52:43.000This is a real deal, what we're doing now.
00:52:45.000Now, we have to have a macro perspective of what's going on, as well as scrutinising and analysing the minutiae of American political life, as well as trying to vivify debate with good humour and good grace.
00:52:57.000We have to understand the science of the macro narratives.
00:53:00.000We have to understand if we are a species in decline.
00:53:03.000We have to understand the molecular and the cosmic simultaneously.
00:53:08.000I'm joined now by Dr Shanna Swan, Professor of Environmental Medicine and Public Health, one of the world's leading environmental and reproductive Epidemiologist, author of, and we're going to post a link to this, Countdown!
00:53:20.000How our modern world is threatening sperm counts, altering male and female reproductive development, and imperiling the future of the human race.
00:53:28.000Could there be a more important ontological subject than the future of our species itself?
00:53:34.000Dr. Shanna, thank you for joining us for this conversation, and I apologize in advance for some of the things that have happened in the last hour.
00:54:21.00050% in what time frame and to what do you attribute this radical, sudden and worrying decline?
00:54:30.000So we don't really know where it started.
00:54:33.000But in our studies, we've been looking at this for 50, 57 years, other people have looked farther back.
00:54:42.000But it is Going on for a long time, and I would say very dramatically since post-World War II with the rise of the love of science, the love of modern technology, which I believe is playing a role.
00:55:12.000But I like to kind of dismiss the things that I'm not going to focus on, right?
00:55:17.000So it's not going to be genetics, it's not going to be evolution, because it's too fast.
00:55:22.000That's two generations, it's not going to happen that much.
00:55:25.000Okay, and then there are very important things about how we live, how we live.
00:55:30.000So our smoking, our alcohol use, our marijuana use, our stress, our obesity, and so on and so forth.
00:55:39.000These are all really important things.
00:55:41.000They're, I call them lifestyle factors, and they're going to, you know, they do play a role for sure, but there's a whole other category of things which are chemicals in our environment.
00:55:55.000And that's where I focus my attention, although I have published on these other lifestyle factors as well.
00:56:01.000The lifestyle factors, I suppose, ultimately come down to individual freedom of choice.
00:56:08.000But if there is an epidemic toxicity within our food sources, for example, phthalates in fast foods, then that seems to me to be an immersive and corporatised, if not deliberate, then It's still a detrimental and incredibly destructive and avoidable problem that literally threatens the future of our species.
00:56:33.000The more conspiratorially inclined members of our viewership might think that this is part of a process of diminishing our potency.
00:56:43.000But approaching this from a data-oriented conversation, what do you think is the problem with our food and toxicity within our food?
00:56:54.000So food is definitely a major source of the chemicals I worry about.
00:57:00.000One of the things that's really serious in our food is plastics.
00:57:07.000Believe it or not, plastics, chemicals in plastics, and now we're hearing more and more about micro and nanoplastics, which can be measured in food.
00:57:35.000So you can blow that up and talk about that in all kinds of food, and then you can talk about phthalates that come in when you wrap the food, when you ship the food, when you store the food, when you cook the food.
00:58:07.000It's not just sperm which is a problem enough in itself, I would contest, but also testosterone is being diminished.
00:58:15.000Now, without wishing to overtly signal to a portion of our beloved viewership, Does the ideological attack on masculinity extend to a kind of chemical warfare against sperm and testosterone if we are seeing decline of this degree in such a short time frame?
00:58:35.000Does it amount to a kind of chemical castration of the portion of the population most likely to become radicalized and rebel
00:58:44.000against institutional corruption. Now this is wild conjecture and
00:58:47.000of course beyond the remit of your study. But it's curious isn't it to ponder,
00:58:52.000Doctor, that we are being denied the biochemical impetus for the kind of priapism
00:58:59.000that could lead to revolutionary change. That we're becoming neutered at the
00:59:05.000same time as the culture appears to be diminishing the disobedient traits
00:59:11.000that likely might lead to meaningful change. What do you reckon to all of
00:59:22.000We have less evidence on that, but we have quite a bit and we see not only measured in studies, you know, showing testosterone declining, but also reports and data from physician's offices where more and more younger men are coming in for testosterone replacement therapy.
00:59:41.000More and more men are being seen for erectile dysfunction.
00:59:46.000These are Of course, related to testosterone.
00:59:50.000And let me tell you, it's not just the men.
01:00:17.000But we asked the women... We asked the women, give us our urine, we tested the urine, and the women who had higher levels of phthalates had less successful sex lives.
01:00:36.000I don't know how much you want to talk about them, but the book is... Countdown emphasizes sperm, and I've been emphasizing sperm, and I've been studying sperm primarily, but I've also studied the female side.
01:00:48.000So it's not just a male problem, and it's not just a human problem, by the way.
01:01:47.000And to make it worse, the damage has already been done when we're adults.
01:01:55.000Okay, so the worst hit is the fetus in the womb because there's the rapid, very rapid cell division that's going on that's extremely sensitive and will govern how that organism develops.
01:02:12.000So if you mess that up, you cause damage, which is not fixable.
01:02:31.000I just had a question about the kind of, I guess, the political environment around all of these things because I guess one of the big issues is when you're talking about the...
01:02:46.000One of the big issues around this is that, for example, with the FDA, I mean, these are an organisation that's meant to regulate these things.
01:02:55.000And when you have a big food industry that gives so much money to the government to kind of keep these, I'm guessing, profitable endeavours when it comes to plastics in food packaging going, Is that a massive issue that we're going to have moving forward?
01:03:09.000That the kind of developments we need to make and the changes in packaging and things and the way that we're going to change this in the future won't be able to occur because of the huge amount of lobbying that goes on within the government.
01:03:20.000Of course, people like, for example, people who work for the FDA, they're obviously extremely compromised by the kind of money that they receive.
01:03:42.000If you walk around your kitchen, if you walk around your house, And just take a little inventory of what's made of plastic, or what we call barrier chemicals, these PFOAs in them.
01:03:53.000It's everywhere, and we don't know where they are.
01:03:57.000We, individuals, consumers, should not have to figure this out.
01:05:33.000If you put on a face cream or something, you know, aftershave, that gets absorbed into your skin.
01:05:39.000And one of the things that helps that get absorbed is phthalates.
01:05:41.000Phthalates not only make plastic soft and flexible, they also increase absorption.
01:05:47.000When you put something with a nice scent, That's going to contain phthalates because phthalates hold, help a product hold its scent.
01:05:55.000And if your partner puts on lipstick or nail polish, that's going to contain plastic phthalates because phthalates add, you know, make the thing hold the scent and the color.
01:06:09.000So those are just, you know, wherever we look in every phase of our life, we're getting this stuff in and we haven't agreed to this.
01:07:11.000How many times do we have to be reminded that we ought remain within the remit of our anthropology?
01:07:16.000That, in a sense, the miracle that plasticity provided in terms of our ability to generate consumer goods has been immediately countered by a You know, medical consequences.
01:07:31.000It's something that has to be not only addressed, but plainly reversed, it would seem.
01:07:39.000It actually is possible, but it will take, based on animal experiments, take three generations.
01:07:46.000So that's good for the animal, because a rat has a two-year lifespan, so three generations, six years, right?
01:07:54.000But for humans it's going to be A much longer time.
01:08:00.000So, meanwhile, before these things are totally cleared up, we have to limit their invasion, I call it, invasion of these chemicals into our bodies by educating ourself and educating our friends and our neighbors, like talking on this show, which is what I'm trying to do.
01:08:21.000And, you know, Turning to, I have to say, alternative means of conception.
01:08:37.000Listen, we're watching the chat right now, Doctor.
01:08:42.000People, whilst they are not plainly enjoying being informed that there is immersive toxicity being absorbed through our skin, through numerous products, through everything that we touch, and that it's having such an evident and observable, detrimental, deleterious effect on our productivity and procreative capacity, there's a lot of love for your communication skills and for your message.
01:09:06.000Imaginary Coffee, for example, saying simply, she's brilliant.
01:09:09.000And people commending you for popularizing the idea that that which we
01:09:15.000absorb for our skin is being absorbed more broadly into our systems and people
01:09:21.000are sending you love and people are sick and tired of the regulations. A lot of
01:09:25.000people think Gareth's question was childish and ineffective and they're
01:09:30.000very happy that I pressed that button that played the French horn sound.
01:09:34.000Dr Shanna Swan, thank you so much for joining us.
01:09:38.000Thank you for giving us this important information.
01:09:40.000I'm going to take that laptop right off of my lap.
01:09:49.000Thank you for the polite and appropriate way you've conveyed these difficult messages.
01:09:55.000It's clear that there's a political component to this, a consumer component to this.
01:09:59.000Ultimately, it will become about being conscious about what we're doing to our bodies and the way that we're consuming products and probably challenging the ideology that sees our roles primarily as consumers is going to be a big part of this.
01:10:17.000You can read more about Dr Shanna's book, actually by getting it, and then read the book.
01:10:24.000Read that, get it, and read it, and then do what it says in there.
01:10:27.000It's called Countdown, How Our Modern World is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Imperiling the Future of the Human Race, or as an acronym, I've reduced it to an acronym.
01:11:32.000When I pressed that while you were asking a really insightful, brilliant, and on-message question for the type of framing that we like to offer on our show... Yeah, that's what I was trying to do, yeah.
01:11:43.000Well, you did do that, and then when I heard this...
01:11:47.000I think it's only you that does, to be honest.
01:11:50.000Swan who's obviously such a good sport but plainly like anyone doesn't
01:11:55.000understand what the hell's going on. I think it's only you that does to be
01:11:59.000honest. I've got a master plan. I hope so. It's all going extremely well. It's actually what we're
01:12:05.000supposed to be doing so no one needs to worry at all about anything really.
01:12:32.000You can join this community, by the way.
01:12:33.000Press that red button on your screen and join a beautiful group of international folk who are interested in progress, tolerance, acceptance, and love innovative ideas.
01:15:19.000You use language as a kind of royal road for the deep unconscious pre-linguistic mind, actually, and respiratory practices as well.
01:15:28.000Over time, if not mastered them, learned a great deal about them by meditating with some of the best teachers currently alive, who themselves are passing on a great heritage, a forgotten knowledge that has been disavowed and forgotten and replaced with apparently phalates, ignorance, propaganda and nonsense.
01:15:45.000Well, we must return to this golden age.
01:15:48.000And in order to do that, we must first acknowledge there's a problem, believe it's possible to change and then make a deep vow to ourselves and one another to bring about the necessary revolution.