In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, we're joined by Alison Young to talk about The Big Bang Theory and the Moderna Government's revolving door. Plus, a new poll that asks the question: who do you like better, God or Joe Biden? And why CNN is worried about a Donald Trump presidency. Stay Free with Russell Brand is on all of the social medias, if you search for it, you'll find us. If you're watching us on YouTube, right, we speak freely here. You're a devoted wanderer in search of truth. That's why we recommend you get here fast. This isn't a movement, it's a movement. And join us on our mission to spread truth at a time where telling the truth becomes an act of... what's that thing? In times of universal deceit, telling the Truth becomes a revolutionary act? Is that what we're saying something like that? We're saying... "Something like that?" So we're talking about the lab leaks, with our special guest Alison Young, who's going to be on in a moment. Stay Free, baby! And if you haven't got your ark all ready to get on board the Flood, come one, all aboard the ark! It's like an ark, but with much more room here. Get on the train, get on the bus, get here, and let's get here! - it's got plenty of room. - but it's awkward to get here... But it's like a very awkward, but there's plenty of space here, so there's a lot of room, but very awkward to fit all of us in here. Get on board, but you can't get here as well, so let us get here soon. Let us get there fast. We do our best. This is a little like that. . . . - let us know what you're up to it. And we love you! . - Gave us a shout out to the Awakening Wonderful, by Wendy Beard and Art by Wendy Behan and Wendy Thomas. You can join in on the chat, right here on Rumble, and all of that's coming soon, right? - The Awakening Worried, and so on. So get on The Movement. Come here, little Locals, Little Locals.
00:02:14.000But even if I were an atheist... You'd still think you'd go for God?
00:02:17.000I prefer a god that I just absolutely do not believe in rather than a president that it's surely impossible to believe in at this point.
00:02:25.000One of the things about rational materialism is it comes to an abrupt end, certainly when it comes to the Big Bang Theory, what precedes it, what happened on the Tuesday before the Big Bang, why is there that inflationary period where the expansion of the universe abruptly altered, And why are CNN so bloody selfish?
00:02:43.000Look at this lovely bit of mainstream news where CNN start to panic about the possibility of a Donald Trump presidency by looking at polling numbers.
00:05:59.000So this idea that Donald Trump can't win the general election, I want you to lose that idea.
00:06:04.000In telling me what to do about losing my ideas.
00:06:07.000Like the mainstream media are selfish.
00:06:10.000Like this guy, like we're watching today because he's funny, but then morning Joe's interpretation of events is literally like people trying to cling on to their jobs while doing their job.
00:07:51.000Make no mistake about it, and this is why I get so enraged with not the far-right fringe, but the Republican, the establishment Republicans.
00:08:00.000Do you not understand that if Donald Trump wins, nothing else matters because it's over?
00:08:06.000Morning Joe might act, just to take a little example, Morning Joe might not exist anymore.
00:10:33.000What about them, the DOJ, hassling that judge, saying about the First Amendment rights of the man himself, Trump, there, are being impeded?
00:10:40.000You're right, when he says freedom will be over, what about the social media censorship?
00:10:44.000There's massive social media censorship that's still continuing.
00:10:47.000They're lobbying judges and courts to continue censoring on social media and then you're saying freedom is over.
00:10:54.000What they mean by freedom is their set of preferences being backed by the state.
00:10:59.000Real freedom are the preferences and views of other people.
00:11:02.000I think some time ago they abandoned in their minds the idea of blue-collar working-class Americans.
00:11:09.000Once they were abandoned this kind of sort of elitist Insanity was unleashed to the point where you can have Mourning Joe suggesting that Mourning Joe is the sort of epicentre of the treasures of democracy and if that were lost it would be a problem rather than an enormous bonus to everyone.
00:13:15.000Sooner or later I'm gonna have to face facts.
00:13:16.000I've been asking Dave Goggins, you know Dave Goggins, he's a sort of Navy SEAL and all-round, I would say tough guy, for some advice on pull-ups and help on slaying my inner bitch.
00:14:07.000I think that no comment moment where Joe Biden asked, have you anything to say about the Maui fires and they went, not really, I'm not bothered about things like that.
00:14:27.000There's a lot of real estate speculation happening right now that is really frustrating, and I just want to remind all you real estate investors around the world, like, Lahaina is not for sale.
00:14:38.000Please don't reach out to these families and take advantage of them during the most devastating time.
00:16:33.000He ain't no Paul Saladino, I'll tell you that.
00:16:36.000Our fantastic guest Paul Saladino, dietary expert, who doesn't even bother to wipe his own body because he drops out little crystal egglets.
00:16:44.000Later on the show we'll be talking to Alison Young, not about her private, no wait, we'll be talking about Covid variants and lab links.
00:17:38.000And remember, if you're watching us on YouTube, you're going to have to click on the link in the description because the mainstream media are basically doing an advertisement.
00:17:45.000They don't present the information to us in a favorable way.
00:17:48.000Like, you know, it's not that bad chill.
00:17:50.000It's like there is a new variant, and luckily there's a booster.
00:17:53.000But to hear that you've got to join us over on Rumble.
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00:18:01.000While we look right now at Lester Holt.
00:18:04.000Lester Holt doing a sort of infomercial for COVID, that gorgeous beige egg of a man.
00:18:10.000Let's see what he's, let's see how he kicks off this advert.
00:18:14.000COVID is making a comeback this summer.
00:18:16.000So many of us would like to leave it in the past, but cases are.
00:22:35.000They want it in the calendar, just as part of life.
00:22:38.000Sometimes you zoom back and look at the overarching narrative in which we're regarded as barely sentient blobs being continually injected with products of varying efficacy kept sick by big food and big agriculture treated by big pharma sometimes ineffectively it's all part of this smilingly anodyne vision of hell that we're being marched into you can imagine a kind of black friday can't you for uh boosters because we're at a point now where they're not free anymore people are paying for them themselves or they certainly will be soon and you can just imagine sales for
00:23:53.000Unlike that poor fella, old Dr. Merrick, who was booted out of his job because he prescribed ivermectin, which you can now recommend, even though the FDA still do not recommend it.
00:24:04.000Also, yeah, only certain medication for the elderly, but COVID boosters for everyone!
00:24:40.000When are they going to say, get outside, exercise a lot, remember to eat well, don't eat dirty, processed, stinking food that's making you sick.
00:24:53.000Yeah, also as we have been talking about in terms of the death rates of young people, that has nothing to do with Covid, that Covid's a tiny side issue.
00:25:02.000I think we'll come to that in a second.
00:25:19.000Suicide, alcoholism, addiction and significantly obesity.
00:25:25.000Let us know in the chat, do you think that that's the real pandemic?
00:25:28.000Is the real pandemic this kind of spiritual decline, this lack of purpose, this loss of meaning?
00:25:35.000I tell you what, I feel that if they could profit from these deaths in the same way that they profited from the pandemic, they would promote it differently.
00:25:42.000Yeah, between 2019 and 2020, obviously key years that we talk about all the time, 8.3% rise in overall mortality ranges ages 1 to 19.
00:26:33.000You have to sort of pick it out of various news sources, piece it together.
00:26:36.000We saw a report on PBS where we're talking about that in some depth later this week.
00:26:41.000And to learn more about the pandemic and the potential corruption that was revealed during that period, you don't want to miss our fantastic conversation with Dr. John Campbell.
00:27:58.000We support, through the Stay Free Foundation, organisations that help people with mental health and addiction issues, which as you've just seen are getting considerably worse, perhaps because of the Evil, malfeasant manner in which we are governed, directed continually to tawdry solutions in a world bereft of meaning.
00:28:16.000But we will find freedom, we will find meaning, by God we shall.
00:28:20.000Now let's hear a little bit more of your free speech.
00:28:40.000Bad Graphics Jack will be involved in the marketing of our buddy cop movie, Bumholes, where two mismatched cops make their way through a number of crises, particularly the crisis of authority that the world's currently experiencing, investigating the actions of global elites who won't tell us the truth, trying to bring about a global revolution.
00:29:12.000Sequels and remakes is where I really, really come into my own.
00:29:16.000Now, as you know, I'm in a contest, a battle of wits, strength, biceps and sex appeal with presidential candidate Bobby F. Kennedy, who I increasingly adore.
00:31:36.000Biden has a long history of fibs going back at least 50 years.
00:31:39.000That's a response to our guest yesterday, Faz Shakir.
00:31:42.000Well-intentioned man, I believe, who advises Bernie Sanders.
00:31:47.000But part of what we're trying to do is bring people together from across the political spectrum so that we can establish new independent, decentralized, even federalized political spaces where the maximum amount of democracy is created rather than these increasingly centralized units of despotism and corruption.
00:32:03.000A little bit of comment, your comment, in fact, on the wildfires.
00:33:00.000Let us know if you agree with that perspective.
00:33:03.000Now, one of The stories that we've necessarily had to continually cover as the narrative has evolved is the lab leak theory.
00:33:12.000What went on that crazy old day in Wuhan?
00:33:15.000Couldn't they keep their windows shut?
00:33:17.000Ain't they washing their hands properly?
00:33:19.000What are they doing with that We've got Alison Young on the show now.
00:33:25.000She's an investigative reporter and author of Pandora's Gamble, all about the dangerous lab leaks that happen not just in Wuhan, not the one that you're most suspicious of, but lab leaks that are happening all over the gaff, all over the globe, all over the time.
00:33:45.000Alison, why were concerns about a lab leak in Wuhan dismissed as a conspiracy theory, even though emails revealed that scientists were taking the lab leak theory very, very seriously?
00:34:10.000You know, I think there are many reasons that the lab leak hypothesis was dismissed as a conspiracy theory.
00:34:16.000There are a variety of interests that are at play when it comes to biological research.
00:34:22.000And the thing that I've learned over my 15 years reporting on lab accidents is that regardless of whether we're talking about a lab in Wuhan, labs all over the United States and around the world, when lab accidents happen, there are extraordinary efforts to keep that information secret.
00:34:39.000And that is one of the The things that I detail over and over and over in Pandora's Gamble are examples of how government entities, scientists, and others try to keep this information secret.
00:34:53.000Now, you've been in a somewhat unique position, certainly on our show, of having actually met and interviewed the Pandemic Don himself, the King of Corona, Anthony Fauci, right in the midst of the pandemic.
00:35:06.000What did he tell you, and how does that conversation look Now, as the lab leak theory has evolved and even as email chains that he was involved in seem to reveal that he had some indication and even belief that it could have come from a lab.
00:35:19.000Also, did he observe social distancing?
00:35:26.000Well, there definitely was social distancing because it was a phone call.
00:35:30.000I was working on an article for USA Today about a secret meeting that had come out in emails that occurred in February of 2020.
00:35:41.000So this is very early in what would become the pandemic.
00:35:46.000And the emails indicated that a group of international scientists had come together And had discussed the very disturbing and shocking possibility that COVID-19 may have been an engineered virus.
00:36:00.000And, you know, as your audience is aware, this is a pretty shocking thing that these viruses that we are told are are universally coming from nature, that some of the world's leading scientists were behind closed doors, taking very seriously the possibility it had been engineered was a shocking thing.
00:36:23.000And the only reason that we know that is that the Freedom of Information Act was used to get some of these And as part of that I reached out to NIH and requested an interview with Dr. Fauci.
00:36:39.000It was an interesting situation because normally you are told that you're going to have an interview with someone like Dr. Fauci.
00:36:47.000I was not told I was going to have an interview.
00:36:50.000My phone just simply rang one day while I was on my way to my car and a very familiar voice said, this is Anthony Fauci.
00:36:57.000I understand you want to talk with me.
00:37:03.000You know, at that moment, you're scrambling for pens and you're pulling out your notebook.
00:37:11.000And what I wanted to know from him is, what was the discussion in this meeting?
00:37:16.000Because the emails show that within A matter of a few days after this meeting, one of the key participants, a scientist who has gone on to be one of the most vocal proponents of the natural origins theory, abruptly changed their mind, at least in terms of what the email records showed, and went from being concerned that the virus had been engineered to then saying in emails to other scientists that this was a crackpot theory and part of a conspiracy theory.
00:37:45.000If you want to be a member of our Locals community and become an Awakened Wanderer, press the red button on your screen now.
00:37:52.000One of the many advantages, as well as getting guided meditation from me, is you get to ask questions to our guests while they're here.
00:37:58.000Like our friend Ashella, who right now, live on the chat, asks, can you ask Alison about the role of the military-industrial complex in the development and leak of COVID-19?
00:38:10.000And perhaps If you'd care to, Alison, I know this world is killing you.
00:38:26.000One is Ash Ella from our community, and one's all my own, and the other one's a quote of Elvis Costello, which I shouldn't really have done.
00:38:33.000Hey, I love that song, and he spells the name correctly in that song.
00:38:38.000So there are several questions there at once.
00:38:41.000The question about military and labs and the like, you know, spoiler alert, my book does not solve the question of where COVID-19 came from.
00:38:53.000I wish that I had the answers to that.
00:38:55.000I wish the world knew where COVID-19 came from.
00:39:00.000There are two very plausible hypotheses, the lab being one and natural origins being another.
00:39:06.000But the issue of where the military comes into and biodefense research comes into play is that after the 9-11 terrorist attacks and the anthrax attacks in the United States, there was an absolute explosion in the growth of funding of of research into dangerous pathogens under the effort to try to prevent pandemics and also to develop countermeasures for bioterrorism.
00:39:36.000But one of the things that has been lost in the whole lab leak debate is that there are non-partisan groups like the U.S.
00:39:43.000Government Accountability Office that have been warning for more than a decade That the proliferation of labs that are doing this biotechnology research, the more of these labs we have, the greater the opportunities for a catastrophic lab accident.
00:40:00.000So that's where some of these things come together.
00:40:03.000Now, in terms of anthrax and military labs, the FBI, ultimately in their investigation, pinned the anthrax attacks on a researcher from USAMRIID, which is the U.S.
00:40:16.000Army's biological research lab at Fort Detrick, just outside of Washington, D.C.
00:40:22.000There are those who dispute whether that was the case or not.
00:40:27.000Can I ask you a simple and plain question, Alison?
00:40:33.000I don't know that there are any, but yes.
00:40:36.000If there is such a risk of these lab leaks, why ain't there no universal regulation of biosafety in labs, please?
00:40:45.000That is an excellent question, and it's one of the things that people do not realize, is you would think that there would be very stringent regulations of the safety in labs, but there isn't.
00:40:58.000Not on the international level, not on the national level.
00:41:02.000It is a very fragmented area, and it's largely self-policing.
00:41:06.000And one of the things that the public doesn't realize is that Where there is some limited regulation, in the United States it's with a certain subset of pathogens called select agents.
00:41:18.000It's done by some of the same agencies that are funding the research and doing research in their own labs.
00:41:24.000And some of these agencies, the CDC being one of the agencies that is the primary regulator in the United States where there is a limited amount of regulation of safety, They have labs that have had extraordinarily shocking accidents with their safety.
00:41:42.000One second, Alison, because I think we're going to make life a whole lot better.
00:41:50.000This indicates an important moment in journalistic history.
00:41:55.000It's Gareth's special question, and it's for you.
00:41:58.000And while Gareth ponders his notes, I will compliment you on Pandora's Gamble.
00:42:03.000Is that because of Pandora's Box out of the Greek myth?
00:42:08.000She just wanted to know it was in the box, I thought.
00:42:11.000Exactly, and the whole idea behind Pandora's Gamble is, I mean, we are trusting these scientists, in many cases blindly, that their curiosity is not going to unleash the world's evil, which is essentially what happened with Pandora.
00:42:28.000And let me be clear, I mean, science does miraculous things, and I am someone who believes that, you know, I mean, we would not We would not be where we are now without the kinds of vaccines that have saved countless lives all over the world.
00:42:45.000But the public does need to know that these labs are operating safely and right now there is very little transparency or way of finding out when accidents happen or whether labs are operating in unsafe manners.
00:43:31.000Why are people so seemingly protective of that information coming out if it could ever be proven?
00:43:37.000And secondly, why do there seem to be so few politicians pushing for answers?
00:43:44.000So when I've asked that question of scientists across the spectrum, what they have said is that if COVID-19 were proven to have come from a lab accident, it would have been essentially the equivalent of the Three Mile Island nuclear attack or Chernobyl.
00:44:04.000For the research community, this is a community that has historically enjoyed very little regulation.
00:44:13.000Very little transparency when accidents occur and and so even now with this the lab leak hypothesis being given credibility including by some of the major elements of the US intelligence community.
00:44:30.000That is leading to greater calls for regulation and oversight.
00:44:35.000And it's also coming with pushback from the scientific community, who really have opposed that as somehow shutting down the ability to move forward with important experiments.
00:44:50.000That was a good answer to the question.
00:44:52.000Hey, will you give us a signed copy of your book Pandora's Camp Pandora's Gamble to give to our community and I'll give this t-shirt and a beautiful piece of state free merchandise as well to them and then I've had a beautiful t-shirt as well as a glimpse of the old This thing that I... Why won't you look at me?
00:45:14.000You're supposed to look at me if we're going to be in this.
00:45:16.000I'm going to give this T-shirt and a copy of Pandora's Gamble to the first person that can answer... Hmm... Could you set us a question, please, Alison?
00:46:02.000Pheromones that will take you to a new dimension.
00:46:04.000If you want to win that, this t-shirt and Alison's book, answer the question now in the chat and one of our team will pick out the right person.
00:46:13.000It will not be Primal Colin, who didn't back me in my pull-up contest.
00:47:24.000Also, Dr. John Campbell's going to be on the show talking about Moderna payouts, myocarditis controversies, YouTube censorship, that kind of stuff, and ivermectin.
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00:48:00.000You even get to join our editorial meetings and suggest questions.
00:48:03.000You could even say something like, you know, stick a bottle top on your head or take your top off in the middle of the show and I'll probably do it.
00:49:05.000Does this look like conflict of interest?
00:49:06.000Does this look like further corruption?
00:49:08.000Of course they made a lot of money from them vaccines that were funded by... Who was it that funded funded it oh yeah it was you you funded it and the uk's
00:49:15.000former covid medical officers just taken a job at where is it again save the children unicef no it's
00:49:22.000madonna madonna he took that job out is there corruption is there a revolving door you betcha here's
00:49:29.000the news no sunny jim here's the f in news madonna made a fortune during the pandemic
00:49:39.000selling vaccines to the government that were funded by your taxpayer dollars
00:49:45.000Now a former government worker that bought all of those vaccines has taken a brand new job.
00:49:53.000Let's have a look at how Moderna's vaccine project was funded, where the profits have gone, and I'm going to ask you, do you think it's right that someone that worked for the government during the pandemic is able to take a job at Moderna subsequently?
00:50:06.000And with all these new stories about vaccine side effects and vaccine injuries, let's have a look at how much money Moderna put aside to cover their liability in the event that a single person had an adverse reaction to a single vaccine.
00:50:18.000Not that I'm suggesting that happened anywhere.
00:50:20.000Major profits, does Moderna plough back into helping people who are injured by the vaccine?
00:50:26.000Thank you. I was going to say, we're aware that there is a sort of a...
00:50:39.000Once you start saying sort of a in an official inquiry, it looks like the next thing that comes is either going to
00:50:46.000an indemnity for COVID-19 suppliers, but indemnities are a policy matter for government to decide.
00:50:54.000I can't comment. So Moderna doesn't put any of its profits back into helping the victims of
00:50:59.000injuries from the Moderna vaccine, is that correct?
00:51:03.000So Moderna is a company that's focused on manufacturing vaccines.
00:51:08.000They certainly are focused on it, but they like the funding to come from you, the public, whether it's in Australia, the United Kingdom or the United States of America.
00:51:16.000What an incredible business model that is.
00:51:18.000You fund the research, they take the profits.
00:51:22.000People that worked for the government go and work for Moderna, and when studies reveal that the vaccine may not have been as effective as first claimed, there's no liability, even in the event that you were specifically injured by the vaccine.
00:51:36.000I wish I could have a business model like that, don't you?
00:51:38.000The matter of indemnity for vaccine suppliers is a matter for government.
00:51:45.000Oh, so in the event that there are vaccine injuries, you pay for that as well.
00:51:49.000Because government, as you know, don't have their own money.
00:53:02.000We have a very good pharmacovigilance process in place, in fact a comprehensive one.
00:53:07.000However, I would only reiterate that Indemnities are a matter for policy makers.
00:53:15.000But what about a moral social... Yeah, I think you're going in the wrong direction when you start talking about moral social consciences, because if you had a moral social conscience, you perhaps wouldn't use taxpayer money to fund a vaccine, not have a fund for the liability of vaccine injuries, employ people from government that previously worked at Moderna, then go back to work at Moderna afterwards.
00:53:35.000When at the beginning of this pandemic, people saying, I've got a few questions, Is it right that we should be taking these vaccines?
00:53:41.000Is it right we should be locked in our homes?
00:53:42.000Because the past has taught me maybe not to trust big pharmaceutical companies and the government, particularly when they're working together.
00:54:41.000As Moderna racked up tens of billions of dollars in sales of its coronavirus vaccine, the company held off on paying for the rights to a chemical technique that scientists said it had borrowed from government-funded research and used in its wildly successful shot.
00:54:57.000Very interesting, because of course at that time everything was a rush, there was an international global emergency, but I noticed that a lot of the decisions seem to have benefited a certain strata of government, a certain strata of the corporate world, and when it comes to injuries, damages, consequences, costs, small businesses closing, suicide rates, people taking their own lives, mental health, addiction issues, it seems that there's been no contingency there.
00:55:21.000But Moderna and the government have now reached an agreement.
00:55:23.000The company said on Thursday that it had made a $400 million payment for the technique that will be shared by the National Institute of Health and two American universities where the method was invented.
00:55:51.000The payment disclosed in Moderna's latest earnings report represented a small victory for the experts and activists who long argued that the company had resisted acknowledging its debt to the government and academic researchers.
00:56:02.000If pharmaceutical companies are going to make billions of dollars, which they are, it seems reasonable that the scientists who helped generate some of the initial intellectual property in the universities also share some of the gains, said Jason McClellan.
00:56:14.000Moderna is still locked in a separate high-stakes dispute with the NIH over who invented the central component of the vaccine, the genetic sequence that helps recipients produce an immune response.
00:56:25.000Like, when my children argue, they have conversations like that.
00:56:27.000I was gonna wear that anyway, then she wore it, and I was gonna, like... This is, like, the NIH and Moderna.
00:56:45.000The NIH said its scientists, some of whom have been collaborating for years with Moderna, had helped to design that sequence.
00:56:51.000Moderna also received nearly $10 billion in taxpayer funding to develop and test the vaccine and to provide doses to the federal government.
00:56:59.000The company has sold roughly $36 billion worth of coronavirus vaccines worldwide.
00:57:54.000Yes, we acknowledge that you did fund that whole vaccine, and we could never have invented it without you, and that you gave us all of the money and we took all the profits.
00:58:00.000And in order to acknowledge that... Here, where... Oh, God, where is it?
00:58:14.000I can't remember anymore, it's so confusing!
00:58:16.000Chris Ridley, a Moderna spokesman, said in a statement that the company and the government have been engaged in productive discussions since 2020 regarding the licensing of certain patents related to COVID-19 vaccines.
00:58:26.000Well, I'll tell you what the rest of us have been involved in since 2020.
00:58:29.000A terrible, terrible economic disaster, a mental health crisis, and a global nightmare.
00:58:34.000They've been having productive discussions.
00:59:26.000It's almost like the establishment are all working together to reify and make people seem real reliable and efficient and better than you, while they're one minute working for the government and the next minute working for Moderna, but they're better than you, remember?
00:59:38.000You don't have a sir in front of your name.
00:59:40.000I can't afford a sir in front of my name!
00:59:43.000You sound like someone in need of a token.
00:59:46.000So Jonathan Van Tam, the UK's former deputy chief medical officer who became a household name during the pandemic, has become a senior medical consultant to the COVID-19 vaccine maker, Moderna.
00:59:57.000That's the sort of thing you don't want happening.
00:59:59.000Imagining if at the beginning of the pandemic, when people say, Listen, you lot, this is our World War II.
01:00:06.000Listen, we should be shaming those people.
01:00:08.000Imagine you said then, what if high-level government officials that are involved in the recommendation of these medical solutions then take jobs?
01:00:15.000Well, that won't happen, you idiot, you conspiracy theorist.
01:00:22.000Jonathan Van Tam, whose name suggests he lives somewhere between an action star and a type of biscuit, has just been given a job at Moderna when the whole way through the pandemic, guess what he was saying?
01:01:40.000...was a member of the government's vaccine task force during the pandemic, which made decisions on supply contracts for COVID jabs and investments in manufacturing and clinical opportunities.
01:01:51.000So during the pandemic, it was up to him to decide who to give your money to.
01:01:56.000And then after the pandemic, he got a job at one of the companies they gave your money to.
01:02:01.000I'm going to need a pretty big token, baby.
01:02:03.000The UK government bought tens of millions of Covid jabs from Moderna during the pandemic and struck a 10-year partnership with the US drugmaker to boost research and development of mRNA vaccines in the UK, including constructing a new vaccine factory.
01:02:17.000There's a point where I would have thought the legacy media Who used to investigate stories like this, who used to be proud of their investigations into financial corruption and the relationship between the state and big corporations, might have to say, oh no, that COVID thing, it was what the conspiracy theorists said it was.
01:02:44.000When are they going to start looking into this as ordinary standard corruption?
01:02:48.000The kind of corruption that those kind of newspapers used to investigate.
01:02:51.000Moderna's chief medical officer, Paul Burton, said, Professor Van Tam's significant experience and expertise
01:02:57.000as a specialist in influenza, influenza, influenza, more like it,
01:03:02.000including its epidemiology, transmission, vaccinology and pandemic preparedness,
01:03:06.000although many people say that one of the main problems is we prepared for an influenza pandemic
01:03:10.000rather than what this was, which was a different type of pandemic,
01:03:12.000though it was very profitable for old Van Tam.
01:03:15.000As well as a globally renowned academic and educator, we'll be a vital asset to Moderna as we work to improve population health security.
01:03:23.000Yeah, and possibly relationships with the government, and also perhaps ease the passageway between your taxpayer money and their profits, which seems to be a pretty fluid passage right now.
01:03:32.000Van Tam is prohibited from using privileged information from his time in government to further his business interests, Well that's good then, because we've really seen over the last few years how we can trust everybody, because it's not like everything they said at the beginning has been a total pack of absolute lies.
01:03:46.000So don't worry, because look, he's not allowed to share privileged information, so you can all go back to your cosy little beds, safe in the knowledge that there's nothing to worry about.
01:03:54.000When Van Tam left his government role, the then Health Secretary, Saeed Javid, praised him for his unique approach to explaining crucial information to the public.
01:04:03.000JVT's one-of-a-kind approach to communicating science over the past two years has no doubt played a vital role in protecting and reassuring the nation, making him a national treasure.
01:04:13.000I'm surprised there's any treasure left for the nation after how much Madonna and this mob have taken out of it.
01:04:18.000Do you see how they patronisingly enjoy the idea that JVT apparently used sports metaphors in his communicating of pandemic policy?
01:04:28.000Which I actually regard in retrospect as somewhat patronising.
01:04:31.000Perhaps if it had been shown that the pandemic had been expertly handled, that the medicines had been highly effective, Maybe I'd look back on JVT's sports metaphors as an indication that he's one of the lads, that he's one of us, that the people are being governed fairly by people who speak their language and understand their rules.
01:04:54.000In retrospect, what it looks like is manipulative, propagandist corruption from someone who went on to work for the companies that benefited financially from the pandemic.
01:05:03.000Van Tam became known for giving COVID updates in a light-hearted way, often using football or other analogies.
01:05:09.000Okay, it's nearly kickoff, so sit down on your seats and get ready for game time.
01:05:14.000After this, I'm going to get a nice little massage from the guys at Moderna because we're all one big team together.
01:05:54.000In fact, if you want a metaphor, it's like he played in goal for one football team, let in a load of goals, and then went to work at the football team that scored all those goals against him.
01:06:04.000There's a sports metaphor I'd like to see him unpack.
01:06:06.000The announcement of Van Tam's appointment to Moderna raised some eyebrows.
01:06:40.000Do you seriously think there is no connection at all between dear old Jonathan metaphor using eyebrow raising Van Tam having a position where he was able to facilitate massive profits for Moderna taking a job at Moderna and while you're answering that question do you think there's no connection between Rishi Sunak the British Prime Minister being an investor in a hedge fund that invested in Moderna and refusing to talk about whether he profited?
01:07:03.000There's a lot of coincidences going on And when the number of coincidences becomes unignorable, I think what you have is conspiracy.
01:07:10.000Currently, there are only minimal safeguards against abuse of the revolving door between the public and private sector.
01:07:16.000Yes, that's because it's institutionalized corruption.
01:07:19.000The government should prohibit ex-senior civil servants and ministers from taking up positions where they have substantial responsibility for policy relevant to the hiring company.
01:07:36.000Taking a sort of comparatively low paid civic role before taking a hugely paid role at a corporation.
01:07:42.000That is literally, you know already, don't you, how the system works.
01:07:45.000If you stop that, you're changing the system.
01:07:47.000That's why you need parties, politicians, organisations that say what we're going to do is introduce policies that prevent that.
01:07:53.000And if you don't get that, you don't really get anything because that's, in a sense, the nucleus of our problem.
01:07:58.000Van Tam has also been a consultant to the World Health Organization on influenza since 2004.
01:08:03.000The World Health Organization that provide your community guidelines here on YouTube, if that's where you're watching it.
01:08:09.000It's almost like all of these things are connected.
01:08:11.000Not only is this a disgusting, appalling story in and of itself, but it's also a perfect template for how things work more broadly.
01:08:18.000What is it when the mainstream media bring on military consultants to advocate for war that have undeclared relationships with Raytheon or Lockheed Martin?
01:08:26.000What is it when a government official one minute is telling you that you ought be taking these vaccines, that it's the only solution, that we could score a goal on the 70th minute and nick it, and then the next minute is working at Moderna?
01:09:37.000Because his answer was gonna make us so happy that he thought, oh, oh what?
01:09:42.000You thought because I'm not answering this question about whether or not I'll profit from Moderna just because I co-funded a hedge fund which invested in Moderna and now we're buying a bunch of Moderna vaccines.
01:09:52.000Those vaccines were a surprise for your birthday and you've ruined it.
01:10:42.000Government officials benefiting from investments made by you
01:10:45.000and officials that have worked at the WHO and Moderna, working at government, profiting from your money.
01:10:51.000I mean, the whole thing is literally exactly what we thought it would be all along, except perhaps actually a bit worse.
01:10:58.000Just remember some of the stations of the cross on this journey to your awakening.
01:11:02.000Remember the moment where the mainstream media said people that were cynical about vaccines should be shamed.
01:11:07.000Just remember the moments when people were getting Pfizer tattooed on their bodies.
01:11:10.000Just remember the moments when Anthony Fauci was held up as if he'd scored a Super Bowl touchdown in the Last few seconds of the game.
01:11:17.000Just contemplate for a moment where that $400 million that the NIH are getting might actually end up.
01:11:21.000Do you reckon that that money is going to benefit you in some way?
01:11:24.000Think for a second about the biolabs across Ukraine and how they're funded and where that money's going and what could happen if it falls into Russian hands.
01:11:31.000And think for a moment if you can trust a single thing they tell you ever.