Stay Free - Russel Brand - OH SH*T, They NEARLY Started A Pandemic In AMERICA!! - Stay Free #195

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00:00:45.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:00:47.000 Thanks for joining us with Gareth Roy for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:52.000 A show where we freely discuss truth with integrity and authenticity.

00:00:57.000 Where we bring you guests who will shed light and spread truth at a time where telling the truth becomes an act of... What's that thing?

00:01:05.000 In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act?

00:01:08.000 Is that what we're saying?

00:01:09.000 There you go, you've got it.

00:01:10.000 We're saying something like that.

00:01:11.000 So we're talking about the lab leaks with our special guest, Alison Young.

00:01:15.000 She's going to be on in a moment.

00:01:16.000 Guess who's back?

00:01:17.000 COVID's making a comeback.

00:01:18.000 COVID's back.

00:01:19.000 Tell your friends.

00:01:20.000 COVID's back.

00:01:21.000 Boost your friends.

00:01:22.000 Because there is a new booster and all.

00:01:24.000 Plus, in here's the news, we're going to be looking at the Moderna government revolving door.

00:01:29.000 One minute you're working for the government recommending Moderna, next minute you're at Moderna selling Moderna products.

00:01:35.000 What a crazy, topsy-turvy, but don't say corrupt world it is.

00:01:39.000 But Who do you like better?

00:01:41.000 Is it our sweet Lord God, or is it Donald Trump?

00:01:44.000 Is it the unending Lord, or is it Donald Trump?

00:01:47.000 A lot of people, it's Donald Trump.

00:01:49.000 That's why we asked you in a poll, who do you like better, Joe Biden or God?

00:01:54.000 And let's see, we've not seen those results.

00:01:57.000 There are 33,000 votes and most people do like God a bit better than they like Joe Biden.

00:02:04.000 There you go.

00:02:04.000 So between Trump and God, we've got something resembling a solution.

00:02:09.000 Biden's got the atheist vote.

00:02:11.000 Yes he has, hasn't he?

00:02:12.000 He's an atheist.

00:02:14.000 But even if I were an atheist... You'd still think you'd go for God?

00:02:17.000 I prefer a god that I just absolutely do not believe in rather than a president that it's surely impossible to believe in at this point.

00:02:25.000 One of the things about rational materialism is it comes to an abrupt end, certainly when it comes to the Big Bang Theory, what precedes it, what happened on the Tuesday before the Big Bang, why is there that inflationary period where the expansion of the universe abruptly altered, And why are CNN so bloody selfish?

00:02:43.000 Look at this lovely bit of mainstream news where CNN start to panic about the possibility of a Donald Trump presidency by looking at polling numbers.

00:02:52.000 You'll enjoy this.

00:02:53.000 Check out the mainstream, bebe.

00:02:55.000 And we've had three polls that have come out over the last week here.

00:02:59.000 And I want you to take a look at how close this race is at this particular point.

00:03:03.000 Granted, the general election is over a year away.

00:03:06.000 The largest lead for Joe Biden is just three points within the margin of error.

00:03:09.000 No clear leader.

00:03:12.000 Funny isn't it?

00:03:13.000 No clear leader sums up Joe Biden, doesn't he?

00:03:16.000 Like undermining it with his green finger bob.

00:03:19.000 His green line?

00:03:19.000 He's not very useful really.

00:03:21.000 This is children's news.

00:03:22.000 You could just look at that poll and just have some music on.

00:03:26.000 It wouldn't help.

00:03:27.000 You could listen to Shady's bag.

00:03:29.000 You could watch A Little Smoky and Vietnamese Baby while that's going on. 0.99

00:03:33.000 Not on YouTube!

00:03:34.000 Because a smoking baby would contravene the World Health... I know what I'm saying, actually.

00:03:39.000 Radical, anti-authoritarian though I am, I'm not endorsing little smoking Vietnamese babies. 1.00

00:03:44.000 No.

00:03:44.000 Other than he is adorable.

00:03:45.000 You do like him, though.

00:03:46.000 I love him.

00:03:46.000 We'll have a look at him over once we're... Because if you're watching us on YouTube, right, we speak freely here.

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00:04:05.000 This isn't a media organisation.

00:04:06.000 This is a movement.

00:04:07.000 Come one, come all.

00:04:10.000 Flood us with your... Let us start commuting.

00:04:12.000 We haven't got much room here.

00:04:13.000 There's plenty of room, but it's like an ark.

00:04:15.000 Get on board.

00:04:17.000 It's very awkward to get here as well.

00:04:18.000 Get on the love train!

00:04:19.000 I wouldn't recommend it.

00:04:20.000 Come easily, regular buses.

00:04:22.000 Listen, it's easy to get here.

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00:04:35.000 Look, they're all coming.

00:04:36.000 They're on their way now.

00:04:37.000 It's like a... What?

00:04:38.000 Yeah, they're coming here.

00:04:39.000 They're all on their way.

00:04:40.000 Don't get under our feet.

00:04:41.000 Don't get under our feet there! 0.96

00:04:43.000 You're gonna graft for a living!

00:04:45.000 Uh, look at it.

00:04:46.000 So, look, let's go back to the mainstream.

00:04:47.000 At least we provide a bit of colour when we do the news.

00:04:49.000 A few jokes, a few jives.

00:04:50.000 What's up today?

00:04:50.000 Green line.

00:04:51.000 That's colour.

00:04:51.000 Green line?

00:04:52.000 What do you want?

00:04:53.000 Fair enough.

00:04:53.000 No, you're right.

00:04:54.000 The beat is there.

00:04:55.000 I haven't done no lines, have I?

00:04:56.000 I've got the sign, though.

00:04:57.000 I've always got that.

00:04:58.000 That's our colour.

00:04:59.000 Let's see where he goes with this nut job.

00:05:02.000 One point.

00:05:03.000 One point.

00:05:03.000 If you go back at where we were at this point four years ago, Joe Biden's lead was high single digits to low double digits.

00:05:10.000 Out of that phrase, low single digits to high single digits.

00:05:13.000 He goes like really New York with that as well.

00:05:16.000 That's like what, 8 to 12?

00:05:18.000 8 is a high single digit, 12 is a low double digit.

00:05:22.000 Like when Leon down my road goes when I was 10, double digits for the rest of your life now.

00:05:27.000 And unless I reach 100, he's right, sadly Leon did drown when he was in his teens.

00:05:32.000 What's the moral of this story?

00:05:35.000 This is significantly closer than what we were four years ago.

00:05:35.000 Learn to swim.

00:05:39.000 Don't swim drunk or on drugs.

00:05:41.000 Right.

00:05:42.000 Those are several morals.

00:05:43.000 He's a good lad, Leon.

00:05:44.000 God rest his soul.

00:05:44.000 Turns out he wasn't as wise as he came across.

00:05:46.000 He's only little, mate!

00:05:47.000 He was only about 18 when he drowned drunk.

00:05:49.000 Like he was a new prophet or something.

00:05:50.000 Sorry about that.

00:05:51.000 He was a good lad down my road.

00:05:52.000 I liked him.

00:05:53.000 He was a good lad.

00:05:54.000 Never mind.

00:05:55.000 We go on, don't we?

00:05:56.000 Maybe this is a bit of a draw.

00:05:57.000 Statistics now.

00:05:59.000 So this idea that Donald Trump can't win the general election, I want you to lose that idea.

00:06:04.000 In telling me what to do about losing my ideas.

00:06:07.000 Like the mainstream media are selfish.

00:06:10.000 Like this guy, like we're watching today because he's funny, but then morning Joe's interpretation of events is literally like people trying to cling on to their jobs while doing their job.

00:06:19.000 It's crazy.

00:06:19.000 This is very very close and Donald Trump is polling better right now.

00:06:23.000 All the time he's saying all of this is the numbers 47 and 46 are similar to each other.

00:06:29.000 We know what we know the sequence of numbers don't we?

00:06:32.000 Also losing ideas.

00:06:34.000 Lose that idea.

00:06:35.000 Strange concept.

00:06:36.000 How are you gonna lose an idea?

00:06:37.000 It's like saying forget about it or something.

00:06:40.000 Forget about it baby.

00:06:41.000 Look at him he's just peculiar little Lego man.

00:06:44.000 Now then basically at any point during the entire 2020.

00:06:48.000 After four indictments.

00:06:50.000 After four indictments.

00:06:51.000 It just doesn't really seem to matter.

00:06:53.000 That's fascinating.

00:06:54.000 Harry Antin.

00:06:55.000 How fascinating!

00:06:56.000 He says, it doesn't seem to matter, she says it's fascinating and yet somehow they muddle

00:07:01.000 along.

00:07:02.000 They could have literally gone, the whole item, it's closer than you think, you know?

00:07:05.000 Yeah, closer than you think.

00:07:06.000 Some numbers over there, mate.

00:07:07.000 If you want to look, fascinating.

00:07:09.000 Doesn't really matter, though.

00:07:10.000 I mean, what an extraordinary couple of extremists.

00:07:13.000 Morning Joe have made it even more insular.

00:07:15.000 Remember, over the course of this show, we're going to be talking to Alison Young about the lab leak theory.

00:07:20.000 We're going to be showing you in a minute Joe Biden arriving in Maui.

00:07:23.000 And whoa, I ain't seen crowds that excited since young Elvis Presley come on the scene.

00:07:28.000 Joe Biden, Joe the pelvis, although that pelvis is crumbling like chalk even now.

00:07:34.000 Over on...

00:07:35.000 One of his aliases.

00:07:37.000 It's all JRB!

00:07:39.000 Let's have a look at Morning Joe advocating for their own continued employment. 0.76

00:07:46.000 Even though I've been on that show and I don't think they should even have jobs now.

00:07:49.000 They're alright.

00:07:50.000 Let's have a look at them.

00:07:51.000 Make no mistake about it, and this is why I get so enraged with not the far-right fringe, but the Republican, the establishment Republicans.

00:08:00.000 Do you not understand that if Donald Trump wins, nothing else matters because it's over?

00:08:06.000 Morning Joe might act, just to take a little example, Morning Joe might not exist anymore.

00:08:11.000 You got my vote.

00:08:12.000 I've never felt more inclined to register myself as an American citizen.

00:08:17.000 Like, get him off! 0.94

00:08:19.000 That's a really odd analysis.

00:08:21.000 That's the priority, is it?

00:08:21.000 Really mad.

00:08:23.000 Morning Joe?

00:08:24.000 It's not very good Morning Joe.

00:08:26.000 I'm amazed he's on it this time.

00:08:27.000 And he turns up once in a while, he's made himself outrageously blonde, like he's seen 1.00

00:08:30.000 the Barbie movie and kenned himself into oblivion, bleached himself senseless, staffed sod. 0.97

00:08:36.000 Morning Joe's not very important.

00:08:38.000 Also, who is more authoritarian and censorial than the current Democrat regimen?

00:08:43.000 Like, they're the ones that are looking to ban free speech the whole bloody time, if

00:08:46.000 you ask me.

00:08:48.000 What's wrong about this?

00:08:48.000 Have I gone crazy?

00:08:49.000 Let's see what other outrageous claims they make.

00:08:51.000 Donald Trump has said, as all autocrats say, what they will do.

00:08:54.000 And he said, if I'm elected, I want the FCC reporting directly into me.

00:08:58.000 And he will cancel the show.

00:09:00.000 I mean, you need to think that...

00:09:04.000 Oh, you shouldn't be on the telly.

00:09:06.000 You're coughing too much.

00:09:07.000 Can you imagine?

00:09:08.000 Even a seasoned broadcaster, like me, I'm still, hey, I think Covid's back.

00:09:13.000 Covid's back.

00:09:14.000 Tell your friends.

00:09:15.000 Like, you don't deserve to be on the telly.

00:09:18.000 Firstly, your suit's too light.

00:09:19.000 People don't dress like that.

00:09:21.000 Bugsy Malone?

00:09:21.000 What do you think you're in?

00:09:22.000 Scream. 1.00

00:09:23.000 It's over.

00:09:24.000 Freedom is over if Donald Trump gets elected.

00:09:27.000 It's that hysterical!

00:09:28.000 Freedom's over!

00:09:29.000 That's madness.

00:09:30.000 The news, again.

00:09:32.000 Here is the news.

00:09:33.000 Freedom is over.

00:09:34.000 Remember, what's that thing about the chains that we did the other day?

00:09:37.000 You never notice how chained you are.

00:09:40.000 If you don't move, you better pull the chain.

00:09:42.000 Here we go.

00:09:43.000 He's got it this time.

00:09:43.000 Here comes sweet lady freedom.

00:09:44.000 He's got it.

00:09:46.000 Like, if you don't... Those who do not move do not notice their chains.

00:09:49.000 Nice.

00:09:50.000 And who said that?

00:09:51.000 No, it's Rosa Luxemburg.

00:09:51.000 It's that fella.

00:09:53.000 Simple.

00:09:54.000 No other issue matters.

00:09:55.000 Every other issue sprinkles down from that.

00:09:57.000 However you feel about the economy, however you feel about whatever...

00:10:01.000 He's wearing under the table.

00:10:02.000 He's got socks on.

00:10:03.000 He's got no socks.

00:10:04.000 His ankles and his heel are nude as the day.

00:10:07.000 He's naked.

00:10:08.000 He's naked from the ankle down there and he's got jeans on.

00:10:11.000 Who is this fella?

00:10:13.000 No, that cut shouldn't be allowed.

00:10:14.000 Donald Trump will end freedom.

00:10:16.000 That's the kind of hysteria.

00:10:17.000 Do you know what I'd like to do with that fella? 0.59

00:10:20.000 Mate, what do you think about this thing?

00:10:21.000 Where Donald Trump's going, Hunter Biden made millions from those deals, and Joe Biden's going, that's not true!

00:10:26.000 How do you deal with that?

00:10:28.000 How do you deal with keeping the laptop story out of the news?

00:10:31.000 What do you say about Russiagate?

00:10:33.000 What about them, the DOJ, hassling that judge, saying about the First Amendment rights of the man himself, Trump, there, are being impeded?

00:10:40.000 You're right, when he says freedom will be over, what about the social media censorship?

00:10:44.000 There's massive social media censorship that's still continuing.

00:10:47.000 They're lobbying judges and courts to continue censoring on social media and then you're saying freedom is over.

00:10:53.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:10:54.000 What they mean by freedom is their set of preferences being backed by the state.

00:10:59.000 Real freedom are the preferences and views of other people.

00:11:02.000 I think some time ago they abandoned in their minds the idea of blue-collar working-class Americans.

00:11:09.000 Once they were abandoned this kind of sort of elitist Insanity was unleashed to the point where you can have Mourning Joe suggesting that Mourning Joe is the sort of epicentre of the treasures of democracy and if that were lost it would be a problem rather than an enormous bonus to everyone.

00:11:29.000 We turn into an autocracy.

00:11:31.000 What our forefathers fought for 250 years ago is over.

00:11:34.000 That's what's at stake at this election.

00:11:36.000 Everything else is a subtext to that.

00:11:38.000 Oh, it's all subtext.

00:11:39.000 It's not subtext.

00:11:41.000 It could be secondary.

00:11:43.000 It's an extraordinary piece of analysis.

00:11:45.000 Hey, and there's a pun if you want one now.

00:11:47.000 I'm assuming that's come from Jamie.

00:11:49.000 He says, we'll be mourning Joe.

00:11:51.000 And what he's done is he's put you in the word mourning.

00:11:55.000 Not you.

00:11:55.000 Well done.

00:11:56.000 We'll be mourning.

00:11:58.000 We won't be mourning, Joe.

00:11:58.000 We don't care what happens to them.

00:12:00.000 Hey, guess what?

00:12:01.000 The presidential primary debate will be on rum-rum-rum-rum-rum-rum-rumble tomorrow at 9pm EST.

00:12:07.000 You can watch them presidential.

00:12:08.000 Are you going to watch them, the primaries, if you are going to watch them?

00:12:11.000 Definitely.

00:12:12.000 Watching on rumble?

00:12:13.000 Are you going to?

00:12:13.000 Yeah, on rumble.

00:12:14.000 On rumble, yeah.

00:12:15.000 We'll be sat here, won't we?

00:12:16.000 Yeah, on rumble.

00:12:17.000 Watching them on rumble, won't we?

00:12:18.000 Yeah.

00:12:19.000 Vivek, he'll be there.

00:12:19.000 It'll be in it.

00:12:21.000 It's all our friends on the show.

00:12:21.000 We'll understand.

00:12:24.000 I should be there, shouldn't I?

00:12:25.000 I wonder if they'll do a shout-out to you, maybe.

00:12:27.000 They'd best mention me.

00:12:28.000 Right.

00:12:28.000 In the old days, we would have gone, here's a mention in the primaries.

00:12:32.000 Like, I'll tell you who has been texting us.

00:12:34.000 Dave Rubin.

00:12:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:12:36.000 Are you coming?

00:12:36.000 He'd be going, are you coming?

00:12:37.000 I'd go, I don't know, mate.

00:12:38.000 Like, we'd pay for us to all come.

00:12:40.000 We'll go then.

00:12:41.000 If he's a jolly, if there's a few quid in it, we'll be out there for them primaries.

00:12:44.000 I think he's going.

00:12:45.000 Commitment from Brander.

00:12:47.000 I ain't bothered about things like that.

00:12:48.000 As you know, I don't think that those kind of systems are going to generate real meaningful change.

00:12:52.000 But I'll tell you who I would go out there for.

00:12:54.000 Bobby.

00:12:54.000 Bobby F. Kennedy.

00:12:55.000 Of course you would.

00:12:56.000 Or Cornel West.

00:12:57.000 I like both of them.

00:13:00.000 They're my favourites.

00:13:01.000 I like Cornel West because I like how he talks and everything.

00:13:03.000 I like how passionate he is.

00:13:05.000 I like how often he brings up jazz.

00:13:07.000 Yes, he does.

00:13:08.000 And RFK, obviously because of the old pull-up competition I'm a bit nervous about.

00:13:12.000 Well, you're going to have to go out there anyway.

00:13:13.000 Got to do that thing at some point.

00:13:15.000 Sooner or later I'm gonna have to face facts. 0.99

00:13:16.000 I've been asking Dave Goggins, you know Dave Goggins, he's a sort of Navy SEAL and all-round, I would say tough guy, for some advice on pull-ups and help on slaying my inner bitch. 0.99

00:13:28.000 Oh yeah. 0.98

00:13:28.000 That's what he helps with. 0.98

00:13:31.000 Even though I love Cornel West and RFK, Most people love Joe Biden.

00:13:36.000 Some even like him more than God.

00:13:37.000 4% of you.

00:13:38.000 And the people of Maui, they welcome him as if he were a conquering Caesar.

00:13:43.000 Let's have a look at that footage now.

00:13:45.000 We've had to beep out the expletives because we're still on YouTube.

00:13:48.000 Have a look.

00:13:52.000 Wow, he's finally here!

00:13:54.000 Wow, yeah!

00:13:56.000 Awesome, awesome!

00:13:58.000 Yeah, thanks for nothing!

00:13:59.000 Thanks for nothing! 1.00

00:14:00.000 F*** you! 1.00

00:14:07.000 I think that no comment moment where Joe Biden asked, have you anything to say about the Maui fires and they went, not really, I'm not bothered about things like that. 1.00

00:14:14.000 I think that's actually backfired.

00:14:16.000 Backfired almost as much as the incendiary matters themselves.

00:14:22.000 Let's have a look at this mainstream media reporting on the matter.

00:14:26.000 Check it.

00:14:27.000 There's a lot of real estate speculation happening right now that is really frustrating, and I just want to remind all you real estate investors around the world, like, Lahaina is not for sale.

00:14:38.000 Please don't reach out to these families and take advantage of them during the most devastating time.

00:14:42.000 On the news, don't do what?

00:14:45.000 Don't reach out to them and offer these desperate people money for their land.

00:14:49.000 Oh, don't do that.

00:14:50.000 Okay.

00:14:51.000 What are you doing now?

00:14:52.000 Not, I'm not doing that.

00:14:53.000 Hello?

00:14:55.000 In a sense, you can't stop every crisis being exploited by establishment elites.

00:14:59.000 In unrelated news, we'll be talking to Alison Young later about the lab leak theory and the ensuing crisis provoked potentially by that.

00:15:07.000 I'm not saying that's definitely how that went down.

00:15:10.000 I suppose it's odd that the assumption is that these fires will lead to opportunities for elites.

00:15:16.000 That's not a conspiracy theory, is it?

00:15:17.000 It's not a conspiracy at all.

00:15:18.000 I mean, there's a chronic housing shortage there already.

00:15:21.000 Wealthy second home owners buying up the land.

00:15:24.000 that the locals at the moment are worried that that's going to continue happening amid this crisis.

00:15:28.000 Of course, they're correct. It is going to happen. We've got billionaires like Oprah and Jeff Bezos

00:15:33.000 buying up massive parts of land. You've got tax breaks for Zuckerberg buying agricultural land in

00:15:38.000 Hawaii. I mean, they get agricultural tax breaks when they're not actually starting farms. They

00:15:43.000 take advantage of them. I mean, all of these things do gear you towards sceptical thinking.

00:15:47.000 Well, also, and the anger that we've just seen towards Joe Biden, when his response was so long,

00:15:51.000 when he was talking about $700 versus the $900 that people have paid out to this war in Ukraine

00:15:56.000 at the moment, the lack of funding and infrastructure that potentially caused these

00:15:59.000 electrical faults. All of these things, also, as well as the kind of land issues we've just

00:16:04.000 talked about, of course, people are angry. They're furious about this situation.

00:16:07.000 My dog's done such a bad fart.

00:16:09.000 He has, hasn't he?

00:16:10.000 It's really affecting my ability to broadcast.

00:16:12.000 I've just got it now.

00:16:13.000 Normally it's me that's done a thing like that, and I'll just sort of subtly indicate to you, sorry about that pal, I ain't been well.

00:16:19.000 But this one's bare, and he's down there, he's pumping out... What's his facial expression like?

00:16:25.000 He looks to me pretty satisfied.

00:16:27.000 Does he?

00:16:27.000 He looks like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth.

00:16:30.000 He looks like him shit don't stink! 1.00

00:16:32.000 But the truth is it do! 0.99

00:16:33.000 He ain't no Paul Saladino, I'll tell you that.

00:16:36.000 Our fantastic guest Paul Saladino, dietary expert, who doesn't even bother to wipe his own body because he drops out little crystal egglets.

00:16:44.000 Later on the show we'll be talking to Alison Young, not about her private, no wait, we'll be talking about Covid variants and lab links.

00:16:52.000 I'm not going to talk to every guest.

00:16:53.000 No, not two days in a row.

00:16:54.000 Well, that's just, that was a one-off.

00:16:55.000 Space it out, at least.

00:16:56.000 Over time.

00:16:57.000 Perhaps, you know, sort of like, we're going to have a break soon.

00:17:00.000 And then, like, when we're coming back, we've got Candy Soins coming on.

00:17:03.000 We've got Ben Shapiro coming on.

00:17:04.000 Ask her about it.

00:17:04.000 Ask him about it.

00:17:05.000 Eckhart Tolle.

00:17:06.000 Ask him about it, mainly.

00:17:07.000 Oh, well, Russell, of course, I like to relax into a hot bath.

00:17:12.000 I'm already doing a poo right now.

00:17:14.000 Eckhart Tolle is quite relaxed.

00:17:16.000 Pride Faults on the locals chat says my cat never farts, but I simply don't believe that.

00:17:21.000 If you're watching us on Rumble, subscribe to their channel right now.

00:17:24.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, I think it's time for us to go.

00:17:27.000 I think it's time to leave and talk about the Covid comeback.

00:17:30.000 Reports on the new variant, and would you believe it by some incredible coincidence, the new boosters too.

00:17:37.000 What you're going to love.

00:17:38.000 And remember, if you're watching us on YouTube, you're going to have to click on the link in the description because the mainstream media are basically doing an advertisement.

00:17:45.000 They don't present the information to us in a favorable way.

00:17:48.000 Like, you know, it's not that bad chill.

00:17:50.000 It's like there is a new variant, and luckily there's a booster.

00:17:53.000 But to hear that you've got to join us over on Rumble.

00:17:56.000 If you're watching us on Rumble, remember, subscribe right now.

00:17:58.000 Click the red button and join the conversation on Locals.

00:18:01.000 While we look right now at Lester Holt.

00:18:04.000 Lester Holt doing a sort of infomercial for COVID, that gorgeous beige egg of a man.

00:18:10.000 Let's see what he's, let's see how he kicks off this advert.

00:18:14.000 COVID is making a comeback this summer.

00:18:16.000 So many of us would like to leave it in the past, but cases are.

00:18:20.000 Ha ha ha, so many of us.

00:18:22.000 How's that adding anything to this?

00:18:24.000 Many of us would like to leave it in the past.

00:18:27.000 All of us.

00:18:27.000 All of us, surely.

00:18:28.000 Yeah, who doesn't want that?

00:18:29.000 Who's going like, I actually quite like it?

00:18:31.000 Ah, Baller.

00:18:32.000 Fair enough.

00:18:33.000 Albert Baller, CEO of Pfizer.

00:18:35.000 Maybe some of the people that used to work for the British government but now work for Moderna and they're benefiting from it.

00:18:41.000 Centralist, authoritarian, globalist bodies that are able to regulate now in ways that they previously never could.

00:18:47.000 Bill Gates, who's invested, some say, in those... Allegedly.

00:18:51.000 Vaccines, as well as funding the WHO.

00:18:54.000 One person who'll be thrilled to see it back is our little friend, Vietnamese smoking baby. 1.00

00:18:59.000 I miss that little Vietnamese smoking baby so bad. 1.00

00:19:02.000 He's gonna have respiratory trouble, if anyone is. 0.75

00:19:05.000 He's right in the myocarditis line of fire. 0.93

00:19:07.000 He's chuffing on the fags like a nut job, but he's so gorgeous. 0.99

00:19:11.000 How can we ever stay mad at this little smoking baby? 0.99

00:19:14.000 We'll just have a look at him just to cheer ourselves up, really.

00:19:16.000 Why don't you have a look as well?

00:19:17.000 The toddler goes crazy, screaming, slamming his head on the floor, even getting sick if

00:19:21.000 he doesn't get his two packs a day. 0.75

00:19:23.000 He was lighting that one too early in my view because he still had a whole fag there and 1.00

00:19:33.000 he thought, I take the risk, I get into it. 0.99

00:19:37.000 That kid needs to cut down on his fags. 0.92

00:19:40.000 Still glorious pre-Covid times though. 0.60

00:19:42.000 A happier time when Babies could freely smoke without intervention, interruption 0.99

00:19:48.000 or condemnation.

00:19:49.000 Let's have a look at the mainstream media talking about this new variant getting you

00:19:53.000 whooped up into a frenzy so that you can get boosted to within an inch of your life, depending

00:19:58.000 on whether or not you're a male aged 18 to 35 and therefore in the myocarditis window.

00:20:03.000 Let's have a look.

00:20:04.000 ...in the past, but cases are once again on the rise.

00:20:08.000 So when will new booster shots roll out?

00:20:10.000 Anne Thompson asked the CDC director.

00:20:13.000 Promo, look at the way the information.

00:20:14.000 There's gonna be COVID, so when will there be no more booster shots?

00:20:18.000 Oh, look, the booster shots are available.

00:20:20.000 It's propaganda.

00:20:21.000 They love it as well.

00:20:22.000 The news love it.

00:20:23.000 COVID's back is dream news, isn't it?

00:20:26.000 Yeah.

00:20:26.000 For the mainstream.

00:20:27.000 You know, COVID's back.

00:20:28.000 We can start the fear-mongering again.

00:20:30.000 The only thing that would make him happier is if Trump was going around coughing in people's mouths. 0.95

00:20:35.000 Perhaps with that Vietnamese smoking baby, coughing in mouth after mouth while people were laying in high intensity units. 1.00

00:20:45.000 This summer, most Americans left COVID in the past. 0.84

00:20:49.000 Bye-bye, baby! 0.70

00:20:50.000 See you later, COVID!

00:20:51.000 I'm off for a holiday!

00:20:52.000 Gathering together once again, mask-free.

00:20:55.000 But tonight, signs of a COVID resurgence.

00:20:57.000 What's behind this uptick in COVID that we're seeing?

00:21:01.000 The main driver of this is a variant that's relatively newer to the scene, EG5.

00:21:06.000 It's easier to give and get, so that makes it kind of easier.

00:21:10.000 Easier to give and get.

00:21:12.000 EG5.

00:21:13.000 Catchy little names they've got.

00:21:14.000 Very catchy.

00:21:14.000 We have a conversation with Dr. John Campbell on Friday where we go into incredible depth into his pandemic journey

00:21:21.000 where we talk about some more of the controversial angles.

00:21:25.000 There's sort of, we talk about does do mRNA vaccines potentially alter your DNA,

00:21:31.000 but also he's actually quite a conservative analyst of the pandemic period.

00:21:36.000 He's very sort of open-minded, but it's interesting to hear a dedicated health

00:21:41.000 professional make the journey from broadly speaking, trusting authority

00:21:45.000 to having total cynicism about the goals of a centralized authoritative institutions,

00:21:52.000 in particular because of the way Moderna have conducted themselves in Australia,

00:21:56.000 our country, the UK, your country, America, Canada, everywhere really.

00:22:01.000 It's been almost a year since the last COVID booster came out.

00:22:05.000 CDC Director Dr. Mandy Cohen.

00:22:07.000 The new COVID booster is expected to be approved by the FDA.

00:22:12.000 Where do you get these unique insights from, I wonder?

00:22:12.000 Wow!

00:22:15.000 And we will make recommendations from the CDC probably by the second or third week of September.

00:22:19.000 Will it protect against this new strain?

00:22:22.000 The booster is tailored to what we are seeing circulating now.

00:22:22.000 Yes.

00:22:26.000 We likely will see this as an annual COVID shot.

00:22:30.000 Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, booster shots!

00:22:34.000 It's fun for everyone!

00:22:35.000 They want it in the calendar, just as part of life.

00:22:38.000 Sometimes you zoom back and look at the overarching narrative in which we're regarded as barely sentient blobs being continually injected with products of varying efficacy kept sick by big food and big agriculture treated by big pharma sometimes ineffectively it's all part of this smilingly anodyne vision of hell that we're being marched into you can imagine a kind of black friday can't you for uh boosters because we're at a point now where they're not free anymore people are paying for them themselves or they certainly will be soon and you can just imagine sales for

00:23:14.000 50% off only this week!

00:23:16.000 New boosters!

00:23:17.000 If that does happen, we should mark that to see if Gareth predicted it.

00:23:21.000 Because who would have thought that the Avengers would be advertising jabs?

00:23:25.000 But we've already had that and Sesame Street.

00:23:28.000 I mean, everyone's getting involved.

00:23:29.000 It's a real trend.

00:23:31.000 They're like pogs!

00:23:32.000 It's like the flu shot.

00:23:33.000 Just in time for fall when we'll also face RSV.

00:23:37.000 Can you take the flu shot, the COVID booster, and the RSV vaccine all at once?

00:23:42.000 Asking for a friend.

00:23:44.000 For flu and COVID, yes.

00:23:46.000 RSV again is only available for older adults.

00:23:49.000 That's one where I'd say talk to your doctor about what's right.

00:23:52.000 Talk to the doctor now, can you?

00:23:53.000 Unlike that poor fella, old Dr. Merrick, who was booted out of his job because he prescribed ivermectin, which you can now recommend, even though the FDA still do not recommend it.

00:24:04.000 Also, yeah, only certain medication for the elderly, but COVID boosters for everyone!

00:24:09.000 You can be 6 months, 10 years, or 80!

00:24:13.000 Pregnant! 0.50

00:24:14.000 There's something for everyone!

00:24:16.000 For you.

00:24:18.000 So until the new COVID booster comes, get prepared.

00:24:21.000 Stock up on at-home tests.

00:24:22.000 They do cover that new strain.

00:24:24.000 A little bit put into the kind of language and mentality of consuming.

00:24:28.000 Stock up on tests and masks.

00:24:31.000 As well as in a secondary but significant way, promoting fear and anxiety.

00:24:37.000 Commodifying continually your health.

00:24:40.000 When are they going to say, get outside, exercise a lot, remember to eat well, don't eat dirty, processed, stinking food that's making you sick.

00:24:47.000 Stay fit and healthy. 1.00

00:24:48.000 Don't watch too much of our fear-mongering bullshit. 0.99

00:24:50.000 It's not making you any better. 0.99

00:24:53.000 Yeah, also as we have been talking about in terms of the death rates of young people, that has nothing to do with Covid, that Covid's a tiny side issue.

00:25:02.000 I think we'll come to that in a second.

00:25:03.000 We can come to it right now.

00:25:04.000 They were the young Americans, young Americans.

00:25:08.000 Young Americans are dying at alarming rates, reversing years of progress. 0.98

00:25:12.000 I think there's been a significant, maybe even 10% rise in Americans dying from what are called diseases of despair.

00:25:19.000 Yes.

00:25:19.000 Suicide, alcoholism, addiction and significantly obesity.

00:25:25.000 Let us know in the chat, do you think that that's the real pandemic?

00:25:28.000 Is the real pandemic this kind of spiritual decline, this lack of purpose, this loss of meaning?

00:25:35.000 I tell you what, I feel that if they could profit from these deaths in the same way that they profited from the pandemic, they would promote it differently.

00:25:42.000 Yeah, between 2019 and 2020, obviously key years that we talk about all the time, 8.3% rise in overall mortality ranges ages 1 to 19.

00:25:54.000 And then that added another 10%.

00:25:56.000 So we're talking nearly 20% rise in mortality rates for the ages of one to 19 during that period,

00:26:02.000 which is, as you've kind of already alluded to, Ross, why weren't we hearing about that during that period?

00:26:08.000 We were hearing constant reminders and constant updates of fluctuations in COVID rates.

00:26:13.000 No one said, oh, by the way, 20% more young people are dying

00:26:16.000 as a result of nothing to do with COVID.

00:26:18.000 So extraordinary that there's a news item there where they're almost walking you down the CVS aisle

00:26:23.000 to get your bloody booster shot. 0.55

00:26:25.000 But when it comes to this pandemic among the young, a pandemic of suicide, a pandemic of despair, 0.99

00:26:31.000 it's obfuscated.

00:26:33.000 You have to sort of pick it out of various news sources, piece it together.

00:26:36.000 We saw a report on PBS where we're talking about that in some depth later this week.

00:26:41.000 And to learn more about the pandemic and the potential corruption that was revealed during that period, you don't want to miss our fantastic conversation with Dr. John Campbell.

00:26:51.000 We value Freedom of speech.

00:26:55.000 We value free speech when it opposes our own views.

00:26:59.000 And when freedom meets speech, you get free speech.

00:27:01.000 and when free speech meets, you get freech.

00:27:03.000 Oh, I like this.

00:27:10.000 This is in the locals chat.

00:27:12.000 USA Now, who has as their avatar, a John Deere tractor, just sent this meme.

00:27:19.000 It says, you stay safe, I'll stay free.

00:27:21.000 You stay compliant, I'll stay defiant.

00:27:23.000 You say bar, I'll say nah.

00:27:25.000 Yeah, baby.

00:27:27.000 We should post that on the show somewhere.

00:27:29.000 If you can drag that out of the locals chat.

00:27:31.000 That's the kind of rhetoric I enjoy.

00:27:34.000 I like things like that!

00:27:35.000 Put it on a t-shirt!

00:27:36.000 And if it's t-shirts you like, look at this sweet son of a gun!

00:27:39.000 Look at that!

00:27:40.000 Very nice.

00:27:41.000 Get out! 0.98

00:27:44.000 Look at that lovely crow! 0.99

00:27:47.000 Did you cut your own neckline there?

00:27:48.000 I've actually got B-Ron who works with us here to do it.

00:27:52.000 She's done it.

00:27:53.000 It's nice, isn't it?

00:27:54.000 Looks alright, doesn't it?

00:27:55.000 You can get one of them for yourself if you want.

00:27:57.000 It's merchandise.

00:27:58.000 We support, through the Stay Free Foundation, organisations that help people with mental health and addiction issues, which as you've just seen are getting considerably worse, perhaps because of the Evil, malfeasant manner in which we are governed, directed continually to tawdry solutions in a world bereft of meaning.

00:28:16.000 But we will find freedom, we will find meaning, by God we shall.

00:28:20.000 Now let's hear a little bit more of your free speech.

00:28:23.000 This is from ZZ.

00:28:25.000 I got distracted at the end of yesterday's show.

00:28:27.000 Well, that's unforgivable.

00:28:29.000 Are you and Gareth releasing a movie about bumholes? 1.00

00:28:33.000 No, mate.

00:28:34.000 I don't think so.

00:28:35.000 Although... Or are you releasing a movie called Bumholes?

00:28:38.000 Is Bad Graphics Jack in it too?

00:28:40.000 Bad Graphics Jack will be involved in the marketing of our buddy cop movie, Bumholes, where two mismatched cops make their way through a number of crises, particularly the crisis of authority that the world's currently experiencing, investigating the actions of global elites who won't tell us the truth, trying to bring about a global revolution.

00:29:01.000 Yeah, we're different.

00:29:02.000 And who's going to be the one that's only got 48 hours till they retire and then, you know, you die or whatever?

00:29:08.000 Do you want me to be me?

00:29:09.000 Please, because I'd like to be in the sequels.

00:29:11.000 You know me.

00:29:12.000 Sequels and remakes is where I really, really come into my own.

00:29:16.000 Now, as you know, I'm in a contest, a battle of wits, strength, biceps and sex appeal with presidential candidate Bobby F. Kennedy, who I increasingly adore.

00:29:27.000 He throw down, I pick up.

00:29:29.000 He challenge me, I accept the challenge.

00:29:32.000 If there's another area where I could be easily defeated by a presidential candidate, it's tennis.

00:29:38.000 This is from Beetle Boy.

00:29:40.000 RFK looks like he means business.

00:29:41.000 You're in big trouble with those pull-ups, Russ.

00:29:44.000 Maybe you should challenge Vivek... Vivek, I think you say his name correct, to a game of tennis.

00:29:49.000 Let's have a look at Vivek, the rapping presidential candidate, playing tennis.

00:29:58.000 It's fun, isn't it, the world, really?

00:30:07.000 People doing stuff like this.

00:30:07.000 Yeah.

00:30:08.000 I know.

00:30:09.000 Grunting.

00:30:10.000 No, who came up with that?

00:30:11.000 We're going to film you doing tennis.

00:30:13.000 It's good luck.

00:30:14.000 People like stuff like that.

00:30:15.000 Yeah.

00:30:16.000 Do some tennis.

00:30:17.000 Don't hold... Shall I hold back on the grunt?

00:30:19.000 No, no.

00:30:20.000 No, do them.

00:30:20.000 People like that.

00:30:21.000 People like it.

00:30:23.000 Yeah, he looks good, though, I will say.

00:30:24.000 What, at tennis?

00:30:25.000 Or are you saying you fancy him?

00:30:25.000 At tennis.

00:30:26.000 Well, maybe both.

00:30:27.000 Are you not bothered, mate, these wearing black socks and I'd say are too dusty of a trainer?

00:30:33.000 Sneaker.

00:30:34.000 No, I wasn't focusing on that.

00:30:35.000 Don't care about what I was, because I got the idea pretty quickly.

00:30:38.000 He's playing tennis with his top off.

00:30:40.000 You've really focused on the tennis.

00:30:42.000 It's good forehand.

00:30:43.000 Very powerful.

00:30:44.000 That's a powerful forehand.

00:30:45.000 I think so.

00:30:47.000 What are you saying?

00:30:47.000 This is impressive, isn't it?

00:30:49.000 You think you can beat me?

00:30:50.000 Almost certainly.

00:30:51.000 No wonder he's just behind Trump these days.

00:30:54.000 What are you saying?

00:30:55.000 Are you going to give him a retry?

00:30:57.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:30:59.000 Is that what you're offering?

00:31:00.000 Oh, the dog's done another fart.

00:31:01.000 He's not normally like this.

00:31:02.000 It's because I've put him on a new drug.

00:31:04.000 He's got a bad back.

00:31:05.000 I shouldn't have done it.

00:31:07.000 Okay, listen.

00:31:08.000 Let's do a bit more free speech.

00:31:08.000 Is there any more free speech?

00:31:10.000 Dr. Peter Attia.

00:31:12.000 A high OT.

00:31:13.000 Next time Dr. Pete's on the show, can you ask him if a vegan or carnivore diet is better for the ball bag?

00:31:18.000 No, I can't, because I'm a serious journalist and potentially revolutionary leader.

00:31:23.000 Death marks.

00:31:24.000 Biden said he was going to prioritise unions and then screwed them over after he was elected. 0.81

00:31:28.000 The steel unions, the dockers, the truckers, he screwed them all over.

00:31:31.000 And then Michael L. Ross, I'm ex-Teamsters Union.

00:31:34.000 They hated Joe Biden.

00:31:35.000 J Wild.

00:31:36.000 Biden has a long history of fibs going back at least 50 years.

00:31:39.000 That's a response to our guest yesterday, Faz Shakir.

00:31:42.000 Well-intentioned man, I believe, who advises Bernie Sanders.

00:31:47.000 But part of what we're trying to do is bring people together from across the political spectrum so that we can establish new independent, decentralized, even federalized political spaces where the maximum amount of democracy is created rather than these increasingly centralized units of despotism and corruption.

00:32:03.000 A little bit of comment, your comment, in fact, on the wildfires.

00:32:07.000 This is Barry John Fox.

00:32:08.000 In Maui, the ordinary people seem to be helping more than the government.

00:32:11.000 Respect to Tulsi, Tulsi Gabbard, who is on the ground.

00:32:14.000 Wow.

00:32:14.000 Helping out.

00:32:15.000 She looks like a superhero anyway because of that streak. 0.99

00:32:19.000 The sort of thing.

00:32:20.000 I think there is a superhero with that.

00:32:21.000 You know that great streak?

00:32:22.000 Yeah.

00:32:23.000 Probably one of the Fantastic Four maybe had that.

00:32:26.000 I think that comment is true as well.

00:32:28.000 Locals have been in terms of finding a solution.

00:32:30.000 Am I focusing on the wrong thing again?

00:32:32.000 Like Vivek's black socks?

00:32:34.000 Tulsi Gabbard?

00:32:35.000 Good question.

00:32:36.000 She does look like a superhero. 1.00

00:32:38.000 Or Dickie Davis.

00:32:41.000 Sorry about that.

00:32:42.000 That's a sports commentator from the 1980s who should not have been mentioned in 2023.

00:32:47.000 Not for any reason other than it's not relevant to an American audience.

00:32:52.000 Pride faults.

00:32:53.000 Not another dollar should go to Ukraine until Maui is rebuilt and local residents given the assistance they need.

00:32:58.000 What do you think about that?

00:32:59.000 Join us on the chat.

00:33:00.000 Let us know if you agree with that perspective.

00:33:03.000 Now, one of The stories that we've necessarily had to continually cover as the narrative has evolved is the lab leak theory.

00:33:12.000 What went on that crazy old day in Wuhan?

00:33:15.000 Couldn't they keep their windows shut?

00:33:17.000 Ain't they washing their hands properly?

00:33:19.000 What are they doing with that We've got Alison Young on the show now. 1.00

00:33:25.000 She's an investigative reporter and author of Pandora's Gamble, all about the dangerous lab leaks that happen not just in Wuhan, not the one that you're most suspicious of, but lab leaks that are happening all over the gaff, all over the globe, all over the time.

00:33:40.000 Thanks for joining us, Alison.

00:33:42.000 It's a pleasure to have you here.

00:33:44.000 Thank you for having me.

00:33:45.000 Alison, why were concerns about a lab leak in Wuhan dismissed as a conspiracy theory, even though emails revealed that scientists were taking the lab leak theory very, very seriously?

00:33:56.000 Will you please answer that for us?

00:33:58.000 Otherwise, you're going to have to take down that backdrop of Pandora's Gamble, a title that you'll have to at some point explain.

00:34:05.000 Answer the question.

00:34:06.000 Why don't you answer the question?

00:34:08.000 Please answer it, Alison.

00:34:10.000 You know, I think there are many reasons that the lab leak hypothesis was dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

00:34:16.000 There are a variety of interests that are at play when it comes to biological research.

00:34:22.000 And the thing that I've learned over my 15 years reporting on lab accidents is that regardless of whether we're talking about a lab in Wuhan, labs all over the United States and around the world, when lab accidents happen, there are extraordinary efforts to keep that information secret.

00:34:39.000 And that is one of the The things that I detail over and over and over in Pandora's Gamble are examples of how government entities, scientists, and others try to keep this information secret.

00:34:53.000 Now, you've been in a somewhat unique position, certainly on our show, of having actually met and interviewed the Pandemic Don himself, the King of Corona, Anthony Fauci, right in the midst of the pandemic.

00:35:06.000 What did he tell you, and how does that conversation look Now, as the lab leak theory has evolved and even as email chains that he was involved in seem to reveal that he had some indication and even belief that it could have come from a lab.

00:35:19.000 Also, did he observe social distancing?

00:35:21.000 Did he wear a mask?

00:35:22.000 And did his hands smell fairy fresh? 0.73

00:35:26.000 Well, there definitely was social distancing because it was a phone call.

00:35:30.000 I was working on an article for USA Today about a secret meeting that had come out in emails that occurred in February of 2020.

00:35:41.000 So this is very early in what would become the pandemic.

00:35:46.000 And the emails indicated that a group of international scientists had come together And had discussed the very disturbing and shocking possibility that COVID-19 may have been an engineered virus.

00:36:00.000 And, you know, as your audience is aware, this is a pretty shocking thing that these viruses that we are told are are universally coming from nature, that some of the world's leading scientists were behind closed doors, taking very seriously the possibility it had been engineered was a shocking thing.

00:36:23.000 And the only reason that we know that is that the Freedom of Information Act was used to get some of these And as part of that I reached out to NIH and requested an interview with Dr. Fauci.

00:36:39.000 It was an interesting situation because normally you are told that you're going to have an interview with someone like Dr. Fauci.

00:36:47.000 I was not told I was going to have an interview.

00:36:50.000 My phone just simply rang one day while I was on my way to my car and a very familiar voice said, this is Anthony Fauci.

00:36:57.000 I understand you want to talk with me.

00:37:00.000 Oh, that's exciting.

00:37:01.000 And where had you left your car?

00:37:03.000 You know, at that moment, you're scrambling for pens and you're pulling out your notebook.

00:37:11.000 And what I wanted to know from him is, what was the discussion in this meeting?

00:37:16.000 Because the emails show that within A matter of a few days after this meeting, one of the key participants, a scientist who has gone on to be one of the most vocal proponents of the natural origins theory, abruptly changed their mind, at least in terms of what the email records showed, and went from being concerned that the virus had been engineered to then saying in emails to other scientists that this was a crackpot theory and part of a conspiracy theory.

00:37:45.000 If you want to be a member of our Locals community and become an Awakened Wanderer, press the red button on your screen now.

00:37:52.000 One of the many advantages, as well as getting guided meditation from me, is you get to ask questions to our guests while they're here.

00:37:58.000 Like our friend Ashella, who right now, live on the chat, asks, can you ask Alison about the role of the military-industrial complex in the development and leak of COVID-19?

00:38:10.000 And perhaps If you'd care to, Alison, I know this world is killing you.

00:38:14.000 My aim is true.

00:38:16.000 Could you tell us also about RFK Junior's claims that post the 9-11 anthrax attacks originated from a CIA Pentagon lab?

00:38:25.000 So there's a few questions there.

00:38:26.000 One is Ash Ella from our community, and one's all my own, and the other one's a quote of Elvis Costello, which I shouldn't really have done.

00:38:33.000 Hey, I love that song, and he spells the name correctly in that song.

00:38:38.000 So there are several questions there at once.

00:38:41.000 The question about military and labs and the like, you know, spoiler alert, my book does not solve the question of where COVID-19 came from.

00:38:53.000 I wish that I had the answers to that.

00:38:55.000 I wish the world knew where COVID-19 came from.

00:39:00.000 There are two very plausible hypotheses, the lab being one and natural origins being another.

00:39:06.000 But the issue of where the military comes into and biodefense research comes into play is that after the 9-11 terrorist attacks and the anthrax attacks in the United States, there was an absolute explosion in the growth of funding of of research into dangerous pathogens under the effort to try to prevent pandemics and also to develop countermeasures for bioterrorism.

00:39:36.000 But one of the things that has been lost in the whole lab leak debate is that there are non-partisan groups like the U.S.

00:39:43.000 Government Accountability Office that have been warning for more than a decade That the proliferation of labs that are doing this biotechnology research, the more of these labs we have, the greater the opportunities for a catastrophic lab accident.

00:40:00.000 So that's where some of these things come together.

00:40:03.000 Now, in terms of anthrax and military labs, the FBI, ultimately in their investigation, pinned the anthrax attacks on a researcher from USAMRIID, which is the U.S.

00:40:16.000 Army's biological research lab at Fort Detrick, just outside of Washington, D.C.

00:40:22.000 There are those who dispute whether that was the case or not.

00:40:27.000 Can I ask you a simple and plain question, Alison?

00:40:31.000 Yes.

00:40:33.000 I don't know that there are any, but yes.

00:40:36.000 If there is such a risk of these lab leaks, why ain't there no universal regulation of biosafety in labs, please?

00:40:45.000 That is an excellent question, and it's one of the things that people do not realize, is you would think that there would be very stringent regulations of the safety in labs, but there isn't.

00:40:58.000 Not on the international level, not on the national level.

00:41:02.000 It is a very fragmented area, and it's largely self-policing.

00:41:06.000 And one of the things that the public doesn't realize is that Where there is some limited regulation, in the United States it's with a certain subset of pathogens called select agents.

00:41:18.000 It's done by some of the same agencies that are funding the research and doing research in their own labs.

00:41:24.000 And some of these agencies, the CDC being one of the agencies that is the primary regulator in the United States where there is a limited amount of regulation of safety, They have labs that have had extraordinarily shocking accidents with their safety.

00:41:42.000 One second, Alison, because I think we're going to make life a whole lot better.

00:41:50.000 This indicates an important moment in journalistic history.

00:41:55.000 It's Gareth's special question, and it's for you.

00:41:58.000 And while Gareth ponders his notes, I will compliment you on Pandora's Gamble.

00:42:03.000 Is that because of Pandora's Box out of the Greek myth?

00:42:06.000 And what was Pandora's?

00:42:07.000 She didn't have a gamble, did she?

00:42:08.000 She just wanted to know it was in the box, I thought.

00:42:11.000 Exactly, and the whole idea behind Pandora's Gamble is, I mean, we are trusting these scientists, in many cases blindly, that their curiosity is not going to unleash the world's evil, which is essentially what happened with Pandora.

00:42:28.000 And let me be clear, I mean, science does miraculous things, and I am someone who believes that, you know, I mean, we would not We would not be where we are now without the kinds of vaccines that have saved countless lives all over the world.

00:42:45.000 But the public does need to know that these labs are operating safely and right now there is very little transparency or way of finding out when accidents happen or whether labs are operating in unsafe manners.

00:42:59.000 Thank you, Alison.

00:43:00.000 Primal Collins says in our locals chat, It was a jar, and the only thing left in it was hope.

00:43:06.000 But I have to say, Primal Colin, that you didn't back me in the pull-up competition against RFK, so I'm very, very angry with you indeed.

00:43:13.000 And PrideFault says, you are not alone, Gareth.

00:43:16.000 I think in support of you after I pressed that button.

00:43:19.000 What's your question, please, for Alison?

00:43:22.000 I wondered, really, what would the ramifications be if we were able to eventually prove that this was a lab leak?

00:43:29.000 What's the defense of this?

00:43:31.000 Why are people so seemingly protective of that information coming out if it could ever be proven?

00:43:37.000 And secondly, why do there seem to be so few politicians pushing for answers?

00:43:44.000 So when I've asked that question of scientists across the spectrum, what they have said is that if COVID-19 were proven to have come from a lab accident, it would have been essentially the equivalent of the Three Mile Island nuclear attack or Chernobyl.

00:44:04.000 For the research community, this is a community that has historically enjoyed very little regulation.

00:44:13.000 Very little transparency when accidents occur and and so even now with this the lab leak hypothesis being given credibility including by some of the major elements of the US intelligence community.

00:44:30.000 That is leading to greater calls for regulation and oversight.

00:44:35.000 And it's also coming with pushback from the scientific community, who really have opposed that as somehow shutting down the ability to move forward with important experiments.

00:44:50.000 That was a good answer to the question.

00:44:52.000 Hey, will you give us a signed copy of your book Pandora's Camp Pandora's Gamble to give to our community and I'll give this t-shirt and a beautiful piece of state free merchandise as well to them and then I've had a beautiful t-shirt as well as a glimpse of the old This thing that I... Why won't you look at me?

00:45:11.000 Can't you stand to look at me?

00:45:12.000 Not you, Alison.

00:45:13.000 You're under no obligation.

00:45:14.000 But you! 0.99

00:45:14.000 You're supposed to look at me if we're going to be in this. 0.99

00:45:16.000 I'm going to give this T-shirt and a copy of Pandora's Gamble to the first person that can answer... Hmm... Could you set us a question, please, Alison?

00:45:27.000 You want me to do what?

00:45:30.000 Firstly, stop ogling me like I'm a piece of cheap meat!

00:45:34.000 And secondly, can you come up with a question for our community to win a free copy of your book?

00:45:40.000 Oh, okay.

00:45:43.000 How about, what is the name of the lab that is at the centre of the lab leak hypothesis?

00:45:51.000 If you can't answer that question at this point, you don't deserve Alison's book and this t-shirt.

00:45:57.000 And the only thing that's leaking out of this baby is pheromones.

00:46:01.000 Plain and true.

00:46:02.000 Pheromones that will take you to a new dimension.

00:46:04.000 If you want to win that, this t-shirt and Alison's book, answer the question now in the chat and one of our team will pick out the right person.

00:46:13.000 It will not be Primal Colin, who didn't back me in my pull-up contest.

00:46:17.000 No, I need to look good in that.

00:46:19.000 Primal Colin, you could have had these!

00:46:22.000 You guys work on commission, right?

00:46:24.000 Big mistake.

00:46:25.000 Big mistake! 1.00

00:46:26.000 You pig! 1.00

00:46:27.000 Oh no, I've thrown it on the camera! 1.00

00:46:28.000 It's landed on the camera!

00:46:30.000 What have I done?

00:46:31.000 What have I done?

00:46:33.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:46:34.000 That shouldn't be there.

00:46:35.000 Thanks very much for joining us, Alison, for this conversation.

00:46:39.000 I hope that your book does very well.

00:46:40.000 It's amazing because you used to work at USA Today.

00:46:43.000 They won't have you back after this conduct, I wouldn't have thought, would they?

00:46:48.000 Luckily, they're still good friends of mine, so thank you so much for having me.

00:46:52.000 Thank you.

00:46:53.000 Good luck with your book, mate, and please send us that signed copy.

00:46:56.000 Otherwise, I'll have to fraudulently sign one.

00:46:58.000 We don't behave like that around here.

00:47:00.000 That's not the way we do it.

00:47:02.000 You can get her book, Pandora's Gamble, by clicking the posted link in the description right now.

00:47:02.000 Thanks, Alison.

00:47:08.000 Now, by God, what a week it is!

00:47:12.000 Because, well, tomorrow Critical Drinker's coming on to talk about movies.

00:47:16.000 What go wrong with movies?

00:47:17.000 Can we trust Rotten Tomatoes?

00:47:19.000 And don't you tickle these Rotten Tomatoes!

00:47:23.000 These little beauties.

00:47:24.000 Also, Dr. John Campbell's going to be on the show talking about Moderna payouts, myocarditis controversies, YouTube censorship, that kind of stuff, and ivermectin.

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00:48:03.000 You could even say something like, you know, stick a bottle top on your head or take your top off in the middle of the show and I'll probably do it.

00:48:09.000 Yeah, I think you will, yeah.

00:48:10.000 I'm easily influenced.

00:48:12.000 Now, one of the stories we didn't get to cover with Alison, and that's probably your fault.

00:48:17.000 No, I think it is. 0.99

00:48:18.000 Because you were gadding about like a nitwit, unable to take your mind for a single second off that little Vietnamese smoking bag. 1.00

00:48:24.000 Can we just have one more look at that little bit? 1.00

00:48:27.000 Smoking baby, see what he's doing.

00:48:30.000 Let's see what he's doing, that little darling.

00:48:33.000 Ah, there he goes.

00:48:34.000 Come on, get him moving. 0.94

00:48:35.000 He's crazy, screaming, slamming his head on the floor, even getting sick if he doesn't get his two packs a day.

00:48:41.000 Pause him there, pause him there. 1.00

00:48:44.000 He shouldn't be lighting that fag yet. 0.99

00:48:47.000 What I tell my children, finish the cigarette you're smoking before you light your next one. 0.99

00:48:52.000 We're not made of money, kids!

00:48:52.000 Greedy.

00:48:54.000 Absolutely not.

00:48:55.000 Especially my newborn.

00:48:57.000 Okay, so listen, Moderna has paid a tiny amount of money back to the US government after making billions.

00:49:03.000 It's 400 million dollars.

00:49:04.000 I wonder where it'll end up.

00:49:05.000 Does this look like conflict of interest?

00:49:06.000 Does this look like further corruption?

00:49:08.000 Of course they made a lot of money from them vaccines that were funded by... Who was it that funded funded it oh yeah it was you you funded it and the uk's

00:49:15.000 former covid medical officers just taken a job at where is it again save the children unicef no it's

00:49:22.000 madonna madonna he took that job out is there corruption is there a revolving door you betcha here's

00:49:29.000 the news no sunny jim here's the f in news madonna made a fortune during the pandemic

00:49:39.000 selling vaccines to the government that were funded by your taxpayer dollars

00:49:45.000 Now a former government worker that bought all of those vaccines has taken a brand new job.

00:49:50.000 Guess where he's working?

00:49:53.000 Let's have a look at how Moderna's vaccine project was funded, where the profits have gone, and I'm going to ask you, do you think it's right that someone that worked for the government during the pandemic is able to take a job at Moderna subsequently?

00:50:06.000 And with all these new stories about vaccine side effects and vaccine injuries, let's have a look at how much money Moderna put aside to cover their liability in the event that a single person had an adverse reaction to a single vaccine.

00:50:18.000 Not that I'm suggesting that happened anywhere.

00:50:20.000 Major profits, does Moderna plough back into helping people who are injured by the vaccine?

00:50:26.000 Thank you. I was going to say, we're aware that there is a sort of a...

00:50:39.000 Once you start saying sort of a in an official inquiry, it looks like the next thing that comes is either going to

00:50:45.000 be a lie or not helpful.

00:50:46.000 an indemnity for COVID-19 suppliers, but indemnities are a policy matter for government to decide.

00:50:54.000 I can't comment. So Moderna doesn't put any of its profits back into helping the victims of

00:50:59.000 injuries from the Moderna vaccine, is that correct?

00:51:03.000 So Moderna is a company that's focused on manufacturing vaccines.

00:51:08.000 They certainly are focused on it, but they like the funding to come from you, the public, whether it's in Australia, the United Kingdom or the United States of America.

00:51:16.000 What an incredible business model that is.

00:51:18.000 You fund the research, they take the profits.

00:51:22.000 People that worked for the government go and work for Moderna, and when studies reveal that the vaccine may not have been as effective as first claimed, there's no liability, even in the event that you were specifically injured by the vaccine.

00:51:36.000 I wish I could have a business model like that, don't you?

00:51:38.000 The matter of indemnity for vaccine suppliers is a matter for government.

00:51:45.000 Oh, so in the event that there are vaccine injuries, you pay for that as well.

00:51:49.000 Because government, as you know, don't have their own money.

00:51:51.000 That's your taxpayer money.

00:51:53.000 You fund the vaccine.

00:51:54.000 The vaccine may not be as effective as they say it will.

00:51:57.000 People that work for government go and work at Moderna.

00:51:59.000 In the event that the vaccine is not effective, you're not allowed to even talk about it.

00:52:03.000 No wonder you're not allowed to ask questions, because otherwise the whole racket falls apart.

00:52:07.000 So you're not prepared to underwrite the risk of your own vaccine?

00:52:11.000 This is a truly global issue.

00:52:13.000 Australia, the United States of America, the UK, everywhere in the world.

00:52:16.000 Except for poor countries for some reason, they didn't get as many vaccines.

00:52:19.000 You're not prepared to actually put money where your mouth is when it comes to the safety of your vaccine, is that correct?

00:52:24.000 So just before you answer this question, Senator Rennick, I'll have to go to Senator Antic after this answer's given.

00:52:29.000 Yeah, that's just the last question there.

00:52:30.000 Back to you.

00:52:31.000 You know you're getting close to the truth when someone interrupts an inquiry.

00:52:34.000 Just before you answer that question, did you know I can fart waltzing Matilda?

00:52:39.000 Doesn't sound that much like it.

00:52:40.000 I've actually gone to the toilet in my trousers.

00:52:43.000 Hope you've put some liability aside for that.

00:52:45.000 Actually, no we didn't.

00:52:46.000 I'm not paying my own dry cleaning bills.

00:52:48.000 That's taxpayer.

00:52:49.000 Just yes or no you're not prepared to underwrite the safety of your own vaccine?

00:52:53.000 We take safety of our vaccines very seriously.

00:52:55.000 People just say stuff like that, don't they?

00:52:57.000 We take it very seriously.

00:52:58.000 Do you back it financially?

00:53:00.000 No, not that seriously.

00:53:02.000 We have a very good pharmacovigilance process in place, in fact a comprehensive one.

00:53:07.000 However, I would only reiterate that Indemnities are a matter for policy makers.

00:53:15.000 But what about a moral social... Yeah, I think you're going in the wrong direction when you start talking about moral social consciences, because if you had a moral social conscience, you perhaps wouldn't use taxpayer money to fund a vaccine, not have a fund for the liability of vaccine injuries, employ people from government that previously worked at Moderna, then go back to work at Moderna afterwards.

00:53:35.000 When at the beginning of this pandemic, people saying, I've got a few questions, Is it right that we should be taking these vaccines?

00:53:41.000 Is it right we should be locked in our homes?

00:53:42.000 Because the past has taught me maybe not to trust big pharmaceutical companies and the government, particularly when they're working together.

00:53:48.000 Guess who was called crazy?

00:53:49.000 You, conspiracy theorist!

00:53:52.000 Social conscience of putting some of your profits back in helping victims of the vaccine?

00:53:57.000 Is it zero dollars?

00:53:57.000 Zero?

00:53:58.000 I might just before you again, Dr. Leong, just before you answer that, I appreciate...

00:54:03.000 Well, it's just that she's not answering, Tim.

00:54:05.000 Don't you love Australian politics?

00:54:06.000 You're like, come on, Rob.

00:54:07.000 Plainly, you've ripped off the whole country and possibly the whole world.

00:54:10.000 Look, we take safety really seriously.

00:54:12.000 Just before you answer that, ish-nay on the vaccines not working-nay.

00:54:17.000 If I touch my glasses, it means you're about to ruin our business model.

00:54:21.000 Stop talking!

00:54:23.000 I respect you're asking the questions.

00:54:25.000 I just want to make sure we can get to Senator Antic and get to our timetable.

00:54:30.000 I'll just take that as a zero, thank you.

00:54:32.000 In the United States of America, a recent $400 million payment has been made to the NIH.

00:54:37.000 Let's look at that.

00:54:38.000 And what's it for?

00:54:38.000 Is it enough money?

00:54:39.000 And where will it end up?

00:54:41.000 As Moderna racked up tens of billions of dollars in sales of its coronavirus vaccine, the company held off on paying for the rights to a chemical technique that scientists said it had borrowed from government-funded research and used in its wildly successful shot.

00:54:54.000 We just Borrowing this technique.

00:54:57.000 Very interesting, because of course at that time everything was a rush, there was an international global emergency, but I noticed that a lot of the decisions seem to have benefited a certain strata of government, a certain strata of the corporate world, and when it comes to injuries, damages, consequences, costs, small businesses closing, suicide rates, people taking their own lives, mental health, addiction issues, it seems that there's been no contingency there.

00:55:20.000 Very peculiar.

00:55:21.000 But Moderna and the government have now reached an agreement.

00:55:23.000 The company said on Thursday that it had made a $400 million payment for the technique that will be shared by the National Institute of Health and two American universities where the method was invented.

00:55:33.000 Extraordinary.

00:55:34.000 $400 million sounds like a lot of money.

00:55:36.000 It is a lot of money.

00:55:37.000 So imagine how much money Moderna must have made. 1.00

00:55:40.000 Presumably it's a great deal because they're taking on all sorts of new staff members at the moment.

00:55:44.000 Some of whom, by coincidence, worked at the government when they were buying the Moderna vaccines.

00:55:48.000 What a small world.

00:55:49.000 What a small, corrupt world.

00:55:51.000 The payment disclosed in Moderna's latest earnings report represented a small victory for the experts and activists who long argued that the company had resisted acknowledging its debt to the government and academic researchers.

00:56:02.000 If pharmaceutical companies are going to make billions of dollars, which they are, it seems reasonable that the scientists who helped generate some of the initial intellectual property in the universities also share some of the gains, said Jason McClellan.

00:56:14.000 Moderna is still locked in a separate high-stakes dispute with the NIH over who invented the central component of the vaccine, the genetic sequence that helps recipients produce an immune response.

00:56:25.000 Like, when my children argue, they have conversations like that.

00:56:27.000 I was gonna wear that anyway, then she wore it, and I was gonna, like... This is, like, the NIH and Moderna.

00:56:32.000 This is billions of dollars.

00:56:34.000 Your billions of dollars, curiously.

00:56:36.000 We was gonna invent that anyway.

00:56:37.000 You just said it before.

00:56:38.000 Do you know what's really annoying?

00:56:40.000 I came up with the idea for Harry Potter, and then bloody J.K. 0.58

00:56:43.000 Rowling wrote it.

00:56:45.000 The NIH said its scientists, some of whom have been collaborating for years with Moderna, had helped to design that sequence.

00:56:51.000 Moderna also received nearly $10 billion in taxpayer funding to develop and test the vaccine and to provide doses to the federal government.

00:56:59.000 The company has sold roughly $36 billion worth of coronavirus vaccines worldwide.

00:57:03.000 What do you think?

00:57:04.000 If indeed the taxpayer helped create that vaccine, then the taxpayer bought that vaccine,

00:57:09.000 then the taxpayer pay if that vaccine goes wrong.

00:57:12.000 Meanwhile, people question the efficacy of that vaccine.

00:57:15.000 It seems that some of that $36 billion, more than $400 million, a tiny, tiny percentage

00:57:19.000 of it, should find its way back to the taxpayers.

00:57:22.000 What do you think?

00:57:23.000 Let me know in the comments.

00:57:24.000 Moderna has benefited richly from government largesse and it does owe a public duty, but

00:57:28.000 it's been very begrudging and slow in acknowledging that public duty, said Lawrence Gostin, a

00:57:33.000 Professor of Global Health Law at Georgetown University.

00:57:37.000 Oh, yeah, I don't know, I suppose so.

00:57:39.000 I suppose you did give us that money.

00:57:42.000 Okay, here's some of the profits.

00:57:44.000 Boink! 0.99

00:57:45.000 Mr. Gosling said the agreement announced on Thursday, which was finalized in December, was a small token in the right direction.

00:57:52.000 What is this?

00:57:53.000 A monopoly?

00:57:54.000 Yes, we acknowledge that you did fund that whole vaccine, and we could never have invented it without you, and that you gave us all of the money and we took all the profits.

00:58:00.000 And in order to acknowledge that... Here, where... Oh, God, where is it?

00:58:03.000 Hold on, let me spot it.

00:58:04.000 Ah, use this microscope.

00:58:05.000 Ah, there it is.

00:58:06.000 Let me get some tweezers. 1.00

00:58:07.000 There you go.

00:58:08.000 A small token.

00:58:09.000 We used these microscopes when we was coming up with a vaccine.

00:58:12.000 Or when you came up with a vaccine.

00:58:14.000 I can't remember anymore, it's so confusing!

00:58:16.000 Chris Ridley, a Moderna spokesman, said in a statement that the company and the government have been engaged in productive discussions since 2020 regarding the licensing of certain patents related to COVID-19 vaccines.

00:58:26.000 Well, I'll tell you what the rest of us have been involved in since 2020.

00:58:29.000 A terrible, terrible economic disaster, a mental health crisis, and a global nightmare.

00:58:34.000 They've been having productive discussions.

00:58:36.000 How about some of that money back?

00:58:39.000 I could offer you another small token!

00:58:39.000 No!

00:58:41.000 where is that small token? He added, it was always our intention to reach an agreement and we were

00:58:47.000 pleased to have done so this past December. Oh you lovely guys, they always intended to. We didn't

00:58:52.000 intend to just make a massive profit and then give you a small token. The company has forecast

00:58:57.000 Covid vaccine sales of five billion dollars for 2023. A great time to be working for Moderna.

00:59:02.000 That's why so many government officials that did work for the government are now working

00:59:07.000 for Moderna. In fact by a weird coincidence Jonathan Van Tam, whose name is too much like

00:59:12.000 John Claude Van Dam and Jonathan Van Ness's names, he was in charge of part of the Covid

00:59:18.000 response in our country, the UK, during the pandemic.

00:59:21.000 Guess where he's just got a job.

00:59:22.000 You're going to love this.

00:59:23.000 Meanwhile, Sir Jonathan Van Tam.

00:59:25.000 Sorry, Sir Jonathan Van Tam.

00:59:26.000 It's almost like the establishment are all working together to reify and make people seem real reliable and efficient and better than you, while they're one minute working for the government and the next minute working for Moderna, but they're better than you, remember?

00:59:38.000 You don't have a sir in front of your name.

00:59:40.000 I can't afford a sir in front of my name!

00:59:42.000 Sorry, I didn't hear that.

00:59:43.000 You sound like someone in need of a token.

00:59:46.000 So Jonathan Van Tam, the UK's former deputy chief medical officer who became a household name during the pandemic, has become a senior medical consultant to the COVID-19 vaccine maker, Moderna.

00:59:57.000 That's the sort of thing you don't want happening.

00:59:59.000 Imagining if at the beginning of the pandemic, when people say, Listen, you lot, this is our World War II.

01:00:04.000 Why don't you all just join in?

01:00:05.000 That's not patriotic.

01:00:06.000 Listen, we should be shaming those people.

01:00:08.000 Imagine you said then, what if high-level government officials that are involved in the recommendation of these medical solutions then take jobs? 1.00

01:00:15.000 Well, that won't happen, you idiot, you conspiracy theorist. 1.00

01:00:18.000 It is happening, though. 1.00

01:00:19.000 It is.

01:00:20.000 It actually is happening.

01:00:22.000 Jonathan Van Tam, whose name suggests he lives somewhere between an action star and a type of biscuit, has just been given a job at Moderna when the whole way through the pandemic, guess what he was saying?

01:00:32.000 You know what the answer to this is?

01:00:33.000 Moderna.

01:00:34.000 Named by the initials JVT.

01:00:36.000 Oh cool, oh cool, he's got a nickname!

01:00:39.000 That makes all the corruption just melt away!

01:00:41.000 As long as we're getting shafted by people that have got cool initials, I love it!

01:00:45.000 Anthony Fauci, hey AF's on the way to F you up the BH!

01:00:49.000 He was remembered by the striking metaphors he used during down the street briefings on the progress of the virus.

01:00:55.000 Perhaps now he'll be remembered for the striking doctors and nurses who suddenly aren't as popular as they were during the pandemic.

01:01:01.000 Remember the rainbows in the window?

01:01:03.000 Remember the clapping for carers?

01:01:04.000 It seems like with all that money being made, none of it seems to be trickling down towards doctors and nurses.

01:01:09.000 That's strange, isn't it?

01:01:10.000 He took up the role as part-time clinical advisor to the American Biotechnology Company on the 2nd of May.

01:01:16.000 Van Tam, a professor who was knighted in the 2022 New Year's Honours.

01:01:21.000 That is exactly how it works.

01:01:21.000 Oh!

01:01:23.000 Isn't it exactly how you believe it works?

01:01:25.000 Okay, Jonathan Van Tam, or JVT as we call you.

01:01:29.000 Arise, Sir JVT.

01:01:31.000 Well done with your fantastic work.

01:01:33.000 And if this knighthood isn't enough, here's a job at Materna.

01:01:36.000 What about the rest of the country?

01:01:37.000 My small business is collapsed.

01:01:39.000 Tokens, anyone?

01:01:40.000 ...was a member of the government's vaccine task force during the pandemic, which made decisions on supply contracts for COVID jabs and investments in manufacturing and clinical opportunities.

01:01:51.000 Oh, wow.

01:01:51.000 So during the pandemic, it was up to him to decide who to give your money to.

01:01:56.000 And then after the pandemic, he got a job at one of the companies they gave your money to.

01:02:01.000 I'm going to need a pretty big token, baby.

01:02:03.000 The UK government bought tens of millions of Covid jabs from Moderna during the pandemic and struck a 10-year partnership with the US drugmaker to boost research and development of mRNA vaccines in the UK, including constructing a new vaccine factory.

01:02:17.000 There's a point where I would have thought the legacy media Who used to investigate stories like this, who used to be proud of their investigations into financial corruption and the relationship between the state and big corporations, might have to say, oh no, that COVID thing, it was what the conspiracy theorists said it was.

01:02:32.000 It was a racket.

01:02:34.000 It was opportunism. 0.88

01:02:36.000 To use a JVT style metaphor, we took our eye off the ball and we've been shafted right up the shitter. 0.52

01:02:43.000 Don't tear the pants out of it.

01:02:44.000 When are they going to start looking into this as ordinary standard corruption?

01:02:48.000 The kind of corruption that those kind of newspapers used to investigate.

01:02:51.000 Moderna's chief medical officer, Paul Burton, said, Professor Van Tam's significant experience and expertise

01:02:57.000 as a specialist in influenza, influenza, influenza, more like it,

01:03:02.000 including its epidemiology, transmission, vaccinology and pandemic preparedness,

01:03:06.000 although many people say that one of the main problems is we prepared for an influenza pandemic

01:03:10.000 rather than what this was, which was a different type of pandemic,

01:03:12.000 though it was very profitable for old Van Tam.

01:03:15.000 As well as a globally renowned academic and educator, we'll be a vital asset to Moderna as we work to improve population health security.

01:03:23.000 Yeah, and possibly relationships with the government, and also perhaps ease the passageway between your taxpayer money and their profits, which seems to be a pretty fluid passage right now.

01:03:32.000 Van Tam is prohibited from using privileged information from his time in government to further his business interests, Well that's good then, because we've really seen over the last few years how we can trust everybody, because it's not like everything they said at the beginning has been a total pack of absolute lies.

01:03:46.000 So don't worry, because look, he's not allowed to share privileged information, so you can all go back to your cosy little beds, safe in the knowledge that there's nothing to worry about.

01:03:54.000 When Van Tam left his government role, the then Health Secretary, Saeed Javid, praised him for his unique approach to explaining crucial information to the public.

01:04:03.000 JVT's one-of-a-kind approach to communicating science over the past two years has no doubt played a vital role in protecting and reassuring the nation, making him a national treasure.

01:04:13.000 I'm surprised there's any treasure left for the nation after how much Madonna and this mob have taken out of it.

01:04:18.000 Do you see how they patronisingly enjoy the idea that JVT apparently used sports metaphors in his communicating of pandemic policy?

01:04:28.000 Which I actually regard in retrospect as somewhat patronising.

01:04:31.000 Perhaps if it had been shown that the pandemic had been expertly handled, that the medicines had been highly effective, Maybe I'd look back on JVT's sports metaphors as an indication that he's one of the lads, that he's one of us, that the people are being governed fairly by people who speak their language and understand their rules.

01:04:54.000 In retrospect, what it looks like is manipulative, propagandist corruption from someone who went on to work for the companies that benefited financially from the pandemic.

01:05:03.000 Van Tam became known for giving COVID updates in a light-hearted way, often using football or other analogies.

01:05:09.000 Okay, it's nearly kickoff, so sit down on your seats and get ready for game time.

01:05:14.000 After this, I'm going to get a nice little massage from the guys at Moderna because we're all one big team together.

01:05:21.000 Yeah?

01:05:21.000 In late 2020, he told the BBC that in the early stages of the pandemic, the away team gave us an absolute battering.

01:05:28.000 And presumably he meant the away team was the coronavirus itself.

01:05:31.000 But no, it looks like the away team was the pharmaceutical industry and their relationship with your government and your taxpayer dollars.

01:05:37.000 And indeed, they did give us an absolute battering.

01:05:40.000 Adding, in the 70th minute, we've now got an equalizer.

01:05:43.000 Oh, he's using 70th minute.

01:05:45.000 He's just like us.

01:05:47.000 OK, we've got to hold our nerve now and see if we can get another goal and nick it.

01:05:50.000 Oh, he got another goal and nicked it, all right.

01:05:52.000 Guess where he's working now?

01:05:53.000 Moderna!

01:05:54.000 In fact, if you want a metaphor, it's like he played in goal for one football team, let in a load of goals, and then went to work at the football team that scored all those goals against him.

01:06:04.000 There's a sports metaphor I'd like to see him unpack.

01:06:06.000 The announcement of Van Tam's appointment to Moderna raised some eyebrows.

01:06:10.000 Raise some eyebrows?

01:06:11.000 Wait a minute, a person that was working for the government and setting up all of these Moderna contracts is going to work for Moderna?

01:06:17.000 Oh, this looks like corruption.

01:06:18.000 Okay eyebrows, do your worst.

01:06:21.000 Rose Whiffen, the senior research officer at Transparency International UK said,

01:06:25.000 when companies employ former officials, regardless of whether they worked in that

01:06:29.000 industry before their government role or not, it raises the risk of privileged information

01:06:33.000 being misused for commercial benefit. It's not the risk of that, it's the point of that.

01:06:38.000 That is why that's happening.

01:06:40.000 Do you seriously think there is no connection at all between dear old Jonathan metaphor using eyebrow raising Van Tam having a position where he was able to facilitate massive profits for Moderna taking a job at Moderna and while you're answering that question do you think there's no connection between Rishi Sunak the British Prime Minister being an investor in a hedge fund that invested in Moderna and refusing to talk about whether he profited?

01:07:03.000 There's a lot of coincidences going on And when the number of coincidences becomes unignorable, I think what you have is conspiracy.

01:07:10.000 Currently, there are only minimal safeguards against abuse of the revolving door between the public and private sector.

01:07:16.000 Yes, that's because it's institutionalized corruption.

01:07:19.000 The government should prohibit ex-senior civil servants and ministers from taking up positions where they have substantial responsibility for policy relevant to the hiring company.

01:07:27.000 You know why they've not done that?

01:07:28.000 Because then people wouldn't take those roles.

01:07:30.000 They'd go, So hold on, why should we work in government if we can't use that experience?

01:07:33.000 That's the whole point of it.

01:07:34.000 That's the whole point of it.

01:07:35.000 The knighthood.

01:07:36.000 Taking a sort of comparatively low paid civic role before taking a hugely paid role at a corporation.

01:07:42.000 That is literally, you know already, don't you, how the system works.

01:07:45.000 If you stop that, you're changing the system.

01:07:47.000 That's why you need parties, politicians, organisations that say what we're going to do is introduce policies that prevent that.

01:07:53.000 And if you don't get that, you don't really get anything because that's, in a sense, the nucleus of our problem.

01:07:58.000 Van Tam has also been a consultant to the World Health Organization on influenza since 2004.

01:08:03.000 The World Health Organization that provide your community guidelines here on YouTube, if that's where you're watching it.

01:08:09.000 It's almost like all of these things are connected.

01:08:11.000 Not only is this a disgusting, appalling story in and of itself, but it's also a perfect template for how things work more broadly.

01:08:18.000 What is it when the mainstream media bring on military consultants to advocate for war that have undeclared relationships with Raytheon or Lockheed Martin?

01:08:26.000 What is it when a government official one minute is telling you that you ought be taking these vaccines, that it's the only solution, that we could score a goal on the 70th minute and nick it, and then the next minute is working at Moderna?

01:08:36.000 That is the system.

01:08:37.000 It's what you've always known.

01:08:38.000 It's what you've always suspected.

01:08:40.000 It's what you imagined was going to happen at the beginning of the pandemic.

01:08:43.000 You realised it more quickly than we did, even.

01:08:46.000 And now there's proof that that's what's happening.

01:08:48.000 happening. He worked in the pharmaceutical and vaccines industries from 2000 until 2004 for

01:08:54.000 SmithKline Beecham which became part of GSK, Roche and a joint venture between Sanofi Pasteur and MSD.

01:09:00.000 Additionally, Rishi Sunak, the current Prime Minister, basically President of our country,

01:09:06.000 also has some interesting ties to Moderna. Here they are.

01:09:09.000 In 2020, then Chancellor, means in charge of the money, Rishi Sunak refused to disclose

01:09:14.000 whether he would profit from a surge in the share price of COVID-19 vaccine manufacturer Moderna,

01:09:19.000 one of the biggest investments held by the hedge fund he co-founded before

01:09:22.000 entering Parliament.

01:09:24.000 Before entering Parliament, he came up with a hedge fund, a bunch of money.

01:09:27.000 They invested a lot in Moderna.

01:09:28.000 Then while he was in charge of the British public's money, they invested a lot of money in Moderna.

01:09:33.000 Then when asked, hey, are you going to profit from that?

01:09:34.000 He refused to answer it.

01:09:36.000 Presumably.

01:09:37.000 Because his answer was gonna make us so happy that he thought, oh, oh what?

01:09:42.000 You thought because I'm not answering this question about whether or not I'll profit from Moderna just because I co-funded a hedge fund which invested in Moderna and now we're buying a bunch of Moderna vaccines.

01:09:52.000 Those vaccines were a surprise for your birthday and you've ruined it.

01:09:57.000 You're just like your Pfizer.

01:10:01.000 Cheers, been a while.

01:10:02.000 Well, now that I've set up this hedge fund, I've got to pursue my real dream of serving the British people in government office.

01:10:06.000 Moderna and one of the executives managing its US office.

01:10:10.000 He left the firm in 2013, returning to the UK to pursue his political career.

01:10:14.000 Well, now that I've set up this hedge fund, I've got to pursue my real dream of serving

01:10:18.000 the British people in government office. I just wonder if all those experiences that

01:10:22.000 I've had investing in Moderna will ever come in handy in my new role being in charge of

01:10:26.000 all the money of the British taxpayer.

01:10:28.000 Wouldn't that be wonderful if those two things at some point interacted?

01:10:32.000 It is not known whether Sunak retained any investment in the Thulem fund after leaving.

01:10:36.000 Thulem is registered in the Cayman Islands, a tax haven, which does not make the company records public.

01:10:41.000 Well, there you go.

01:10:42.000 Government officials benefiting from investments made by you

01:10:45.000 and officials that have worked at the WHO and Moderna, working at government, profiting from your money.

01:10:51.000 I mean, the whole thing is literally exactly what we thought it would be all along, except perhaps actually a bit worse.

01:10:58.000 Just remember some of the stations of the cross on this journey to your awakening.

01:11:02.000 Remember the moment where the mainstream media said people that were cynical about vaccines should be shamed.

01:11:07.000 Just remember the moments when people were getting Pfizer tattooed on their bodies.

01:11:10.000 Just remember the moments when Anthony Fauci was held up as if he'd scored a Super Bowl touchdown in the Last few seconds of the game.

01:11:17.000 Just contemplate for a moment where that $400 million that the NIH are getting might actually end up.

01:11:21.000 Do you reckon that that money is going to benefit you in some way?

01:11:24.000 Think for a second about the biolabs across Ukraine and how they're funded and where that money's going and what could happen if it falls into Russian hands.

01:11:31.000 And think for a moment if you can trust a single thing they tell you ever.

01:11:36.000 But that's just what I think.

01:11:37.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.

01:11:38.000 Until next time, if you can, stay free.

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