In this episode, Gareth and Gareth are joined by comedian and actor Omid Jalili to discuss the FBI spying on Black Lives Matter protesters and how the government is trying to delegitimise all forms of critical thought. They also discuss the Iranian protests and how governments are colluding with big business to stifle them, and how they are using technology to suppress them. Gareth also talks about the new Tesla Model Y and Elon Musk's plans to develop self-driving cars, and why he thinks the government should be worried about Tesla's plans for autonomous vehicles. And finally, Gareth talks about why he believes the FBI should be doing more to combat the spread of radical ideas, and what that could mean for the future of freedom and democracy in the 21st century. This episode is brought to you live on Rumble, where you get access to all sorts of other stuff, including a live show hosted by Gareth Roy. RUMBLE is produced by Gareth and Alex Blumberg, and produced and edited by Gareth, with help from the excellent crew at Local Speaks. . Produced in Adelaide, Australia. This episode was produced in partnership with Local Speakers, and edited and produced by Freach, a local production company. We are working on a new audio experience that will be available on Rumble on January 6th and 7th, 2020, where we'll be bringing you a live version of the show on January 7th and 8th, where Gareth will be joined by Omid Javed Jalili, a comedian, actor, and writer from Iran. and comedian Omid, who will be joining us live on the show to talk about the protests in Iran and his experiences in Iran, as well as his thoughts on the current events happening around the protests happening in the streets of Sydney, Australia, and his views on what's going on around the world, and much more! We hope you enjoy the episode, and we look forward to hearing from you in the coming weeks, so stay tuned for more of your responses to what's happening in real life. , and what you can be heard on Rumble. on Local Speedy, and where you can expect from us in the future episodes of Local Speech. - Freach meets Freach and Freach's next week! - Where do you get your free speech and calls it? - Call it Where's the call it where it's free speech meets it's where you're free speech?
00:00:01.00050% of Americans may have lost their faith in God, but we will never lose our faith in you, and we are here to tell you that there are powerful and transcendent forces within you, beyond you, around you that we can access to change the world for the better for you.
00:00:15.000And this is where we come to awaken together, individually, collectively, in the company of my on-screen assistant, Gareth Roy.
00:00:22.000We will be discussing global events, how they're conveyed to you by a media that I believe to be largely corrupt.
00:00:28.000Although, you know, there's some great people out there doing their best.
00:00:32.000We're going to be talking about the way that governments and big businesses collaborate.
00:00:35.000We're going to be talking in particular about the attempt to label all anti-establishment rhetoric as right-wing or conspiracy theory.
00:00:45.000This is going to be increasingly difficult as Ron DeSantis launches his presidential bid On Twitter.
00:00:52.000We already know that Tucker's going to have some kind of affiliation with Twitter.
00:00:55.000And I think that Elon Musk had a few quid in his pocket before this venture even began from the rockets and the tech and the driverless cars and the rhetoric.
00:01:07.000And maybe there'll be some updates there.
00:01:19.000I would think, because he's plucky, he's an individual, he's got a lot to say for himself, there he goes.
00:01:25.000In our presentation, Here's the News, No, Here's the Effing News, we'll be talking about those FBI whistleblowers who'll be joining us live on the show soon.
00:01:33.000They had some interesting revelations around January the 6th, as well as other conduct within the FBI that's worthy, I believe, of further scrutiny, and it's in fact the Mainstream media's inability to look in a relatively unbiased way at stories like that one that I think is leading us to this place of crisis but to a degree it's beneficial for us because alternative media like us, stay free media, where we're dedicated to you and you can let us know in the comments if you think we're doing a good job or where we could improve.
00:02:00.000If you're watching this on YouTube right now, Join us on Rumble, because about 15 minutes in, we're going to be able to talk more openly, in particular, about those FBI whistleblowers and some of their revelations around January the 6th.
00:02:13.000If you're already watching us on Rumble, join us on Locals.
00:03:05.000He's a brilliant, brilliant, funny comedian.
00:03:07.000He's going to talk to us about protests in Iran and how he's found himself.
00:03:11.000Curiously at the centre of conveying many of those narratives because of censorship and oppression in Iran around this uprising that's been going on there for a little while and I'll be talking to him about the general global insurgency whether it's around agriculture or whether it's around mandates as in the Canadian trucker protests and how centralised authority is shutting down on radicalism in all its forms.
00:03:32.000Remember when we spoke to you earlier in the week we just pointed out that the FBI have been surveilling not only January the 6th protesters but also George Floyd, Black Lives Matter protesters.
00:03:43.000So wherever you might see yourself on the social scale, they see you in the same way.
00:03:47.000A potential threat to their ongoing systemic hegemony.
00:04:19.000Next time, have a musical bed for it, Jack.
00:04:22.000What I think happens is, when you do this criticism post the sting now, people think, oh, he's having fun with it.
00:04:28.000But I actually do think he wants a new sting.
00:04:30.000It should be improved, it's a disgrace.
00:04:33.000Later on in the show I'll be doing my item Brandy on Gandhi where I talk about the ideas of Mahatma Gandhi and how they can be used to revitalise a flagging and fractured anti-establishment movement across the world.
00:04:46.000He talks a lot about decentralisation and we'll be talking about that.
00:04:49.000I think it's the solution, you know, sometimes people go, people go, what's the solution?
00:04:54.000You know, it's enough complaining, what's the solution?
00:04:56.000Do you ever worry that with that title that people might think it's that 90s pop star on Gandy?
00:07:53.000The thing is, when you're negotiating with Elon Musk, what you realise is he's the world's richest man.
00:07:58.000I'm the bloke for getting Sarah Marshall.
00:08:01.000Listen, Musk, I'll tell you now and I'll tell you good.
00:08:03.000If you want another sequel to Sarah Marshall, in spite of the diminishing returns of getting to the Greek, you will not get a third sequel.
00:11:46.000Oh, you've just been very disrespectful about his brother.
00:11:48.000Nevertheless, good sports gardening, man.
00:11:51.000Anyway, no, but what's less known about Gandhi is that he said there's no point booting the British out of India and then replicating the systems that we inherit from them.
00:11:58.000We have to create an India that is comprised of the 70,000 villages that make her up, and each one should be fully autonomous and independent.
00:12:07.000Some of you will be aware that there's a small village in southern Spain that seemed to be immune from the profound economic challenges that that part of the country was met with.
00:12:18.000Like Spain, it was nosed right up by the events of the last few years.
00:12:23.000Some of you will be somewhat agitated at the sight of Che Guevara there, knowing that, like many icons, he's a complex figure that's far from perfect.
00:12:30.000And of course, you'll be perhaps aware of some of the things that happened post the Cuban Revolution that are pretty unfavourable.
00:12:37.000Nevertheless, this autonomous collective, this communist village, was run very successfully, and I believe that you should have as much democracy as possible.
00:13:15.000I know loads of you lot aren't hardly pro-communism.
00:13:18.000How could you be after the way that you were Inducted, inculcated and educated during the Cold War period and you are aware of the atrocities, murders and horrors that took place under Soviet communism and Chinese communism and I'm not advocating for centralized state power.
00:14:27.000In conclusion, Gandhi once said, I think in the film Gandhi, oh god, and sadly that was his last words because he was murdered ironically by, hinted on ironically, more than ironically, Village Republic.
00:14:37.000So this is Gandhi on Village Republic.
00:14:39.000I've not pictured a poverty-stricken India containing ignorant millions.
00:14:42.000I've pictured to myself an India continually progressing along the lines best suited to her genius.
00:14:47.000I do not, however, picture it as a third-class or even first-class copy of the dying civilization of the West.
00:14:52.000Even then, he had identified that our atrophying late capitalist systems were going to lead to cataclysm and cultural decline.
00:15:00.000If my dream is fulfilled and every one of the seven larks of villages becomes a well-living republic in which there are no illiterates, in which no one is idle for want of work, in which everyone is usefully occupied and has nourishing food, well-ventilated dwellings and sufficient cardi for covering the body, and in which all the villagers know and observe the laws of
00:15:18.000hygiene and sanitation, such a state must have varied and increasing needs,
00:15:23.000which it must supply, unless it would stagnate.
00:15:25.000When people talk about changing the world, they mean change the world without inconveniencing the
00:15:45.000Cast aside old models, except for where they are beneficial.
00:15:49.000Be willing to look at the past favorably in a new light.
00:15:52.000Be willing to look at what kind of changes might meaningfully improve your life as a human being.
00:15:58.000The thing that inspires me perhaps most of all about Gandhi is this is a person that resourced his values and his views from his spiritual principles.
00:17:31.000In fact, that reminds me, I've got to adjust this hand.
00:17:35.000Firstly, I had the devil horns as you just demonstrated.
00:17:42.000In honour of our conversation, I'm going to move it to this and then place it that way for peace, even though they're not as open as I would have them.
00:17:50.000Omid, we've been speaking for ages, mate.
00:17:53.000I've known you since I first started doing stand-up.
00:18:57.000Except there's been a kind of feminist uprising that's somehow centered around, like, dress codes, and the icons have emerged within this movement, and that it's not being reported on responsibly or nearly enough.
00:19:07.000Of course, on a platform like this one, we're always interested in how the media report or don't report on a subject, how the establishment exploits it, how certain narratives are promoted and other narratives are are ignored and what the broader objectives would be of
00:19:19.000Western institutions towards Iran, who we know appeared on the sort of hit list of countries
00:19:24.000that should be destabilized post 9/11, and many of which have been destabilized since then.
00:19:37.000I think what's very interesting is that as a stand-up comedian, what I did as soon as
00:19:40.000I saw what happened, there was a 22-year-old girl who was – they have these hijab laws
00:19:46.000where women have to wear hijab in a certain way.
00:19:48.000And I think a bit of her hair was showing, so she was arrested.
00:19:51.000She was supposed to be on some kind of hijab awareness course and they beat the crap out of her and she died and there are lots of flashpoints that happen in Iran but this was seismic.
00:20:00.000We've had little kind of aftershocks where there's been uprisings.
00:20:04.000They've usually been quashed and the way they do it is by cutting the internet, going and killing a lot of people and shutting everything down.
00:20:10.000So this time we knew what was going to happen.
00:20:13.000This was seismic and the first thing they did was shut the internet.
00:20:17.000So through this thing called VPN, you can get a couple of videos out.
00:20:20.000If you join Telegram channels, you can get a couple of videos.
00:20:24.000So those of us who were affected by it and someone like me, I've been very involved in this whole thing for the last 44 years.
00:20:31.000We've had this crazy... Tell us why, because I know you're English, but you have Iranian heritage.
00:21:05.000So, and also the Baha'i faith, which believes in the oneness of God, the oneness of religion, the unity and equality of men and women, they've got to go as well.
00:21:14.000So, I've always been someone who's seen as a second-class citizen in Iran, and Baha'is are not allowed to have jobs.
00:21:21.000A lot of them were killed in the revolution.
00:21:23.000So, This affected me in a very visceral way.
00:21:25.000So what I did was, okay, I thought, right, they've cut the internet.
00:21:29.000First thing I've got to do is be a voice for the people.
00:21:31.000And I did jokes about it because you've got the supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei.
00:21:36.000Khamenei, not Khamenei was the original one.
00:21:38.000Khamenei's cut the internet, but he's tweeting all the time.
00:21:41.000So he's got Wi-Fi and people go and they go and protest outside his house.
00:21:45.000And the state media says, these are not protestations.
00:21:48.000People just trying to get a Wi-Fi hotspot.
00:21:50.000So I was doing things like, have you got, I've got two bars.
00:22:13.000This is why it's amazing that we can't believe this is not being It's not out there.
00:22:18.000It's the first time since the suffragettes we've seen a woman-led revolution and their main aim is to bring down the Islamic regime.
00:22:27.000So currently, thank you Ahmed, that's sketched out some of the territory for me as a person that is woefully unfamiliar with this issue.
00:22:34.000So Iran is currently governed by an Islamic State type of Sharia law, what would ordinarily be termed an Islamic fundamentalist government.
00:23:05.000With the well-reported disdain that the West has for Arab nations, Middle Eastern territories and Iran in particular, why are the Western media and or Western interests not exploiting the opportunity to declare this is a Progressive movement that's female-led, which, by the way, I'd of course be fully in support of.
00:24:39.000And what's interesting is the Western media don't--
00:24:43.000we've been trying to get the IRGC, the Islamic Republican Guard Corps,
00:24:47.000which is the group of military people which protects this Islamic regime,
00:24:52.000who are basically the mothership of all terrorism.
00:24:55.000If you see, we're trying to get them on the terrorist list, but what you have is you've got Hezbollah, Hamas, these people that are on the terrorist list, but they're all being funded by the Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
00:25:05.000It's like an alien, the film Aliens, when Sigourney Weaver, she goes and she sees the Big Mother laying all the eggs.
00:25:12.000And then she says, don't get away from her, you bitch!
00:25:16.000IRGC, Islamic Republican Guard Corps, is that great big mothership of terrorism.
00:25:22.000Now, governments are not putting them on the terrorist list because they seem to have some kind of influence.
00:25:28.000We seem to be doing a lot of work with them.
00:25:31.000We're financially entangled with them.
00:25:34.000The Iranian people are saying, we're dealing with this revolution ourselves, but if you put the IRGC on the terrorist list, it gives the people within the IRGC, within this military terrorist organization, it gives them an exit strategy.
00:25:48.000They'll leave, then the people of Iran will deal with the Islamic regime the way they want to.
00:25:53.000That girl on the chat loves your metaphors.
00:25:56.000Some people are finding it very emotional listening to you, mate.
00:26:01.000This is a bit of coverage from Western Media, albeit Forbes, primarily a financial publication.
00:26:08.000On the 19th of May, 2023, Iran executed three protesters following their convictions for the vague offence of moharrabeh, meaning a enmity against God after trials that said to violate a due
00:26:17.000process and the right to a fair trial. Among the raised issues were
00:26:20.000concerns in relation to due process violations, significant procedural flaws, lack of
00:26:23.000evidence and torture, allegations that were never investigated. The
00:26:28.000intervention of Western nations in that territory is a sort of a long historic
00:26:34.000stain whether it's the British Empire's involvement in those nations and
00:26:39.000territories and even the establishment of those territories and nations.
00:26:43.000That's why they don't like the Brits because there was a coup in 1953 which they blamed the Brits and Americans because they were there kind of saying oh you've got oil here we'll help you get the oil and we'll give you something and then when they realized no money was coming to the Iranian people they got rid of BP oil they got rid of all the Brits and then the Brits for $60,000 the Brits and the Americans They did this coup and they took over again, so that's why the people don't like the Brits.
00:27:10.000I mean, I'm sure people will write in saying they know what I'm talking about, but historically there's always been this thing that there's oil there and the West wants the oil.
00:27:19.000Also, people are saying that one of the organisations we can rely on for reporting on this are Greyzone.
00:27:26.000They sort of are willing to report on issues that, generally speaking, get ignored by Western media.
00:27:32.000But what surprises me currently is that any instability in a Middle Eastern nation, and even the term Middle Eastern is, of course, by its nature, occidental and prejudicial, can be exploited by the type of Western interest that - It was on the phone. - ...needlessly exploited
00:27:52.000the post-9/11 period to invade Iraq when it was completely tangential and unrelated.
00:27:57.000So I'm surprised that we're not hearing about, like, "Oh, we've got to support this revolution
00:28:03.000and instill some West-friendly government."
00:28:06.000Like, that's the kind of thing that's supposed to be.
00:28:07.000There's a lot of it going on online, but as far as the Western--
00:28:10.000well, the 1979 Islamic revolution, when they all came into power,
00:28:35.000You'll see a few people like myself, all the comedians I know who are like Iranian.
00:28:40.000We've all become activists now because we feel so much for what's going on, what's happening to the people of Iran, that they're basically being squashed.
00:28:48.000And they're being killed, and there's like 30,000 people in prison, all just for protesting.
00:28:53.000And no one is doing anything about it.
00:28:54.000I'm so glad that you've got me on here to speak.
00:28:57.000I'm very glad that also you tweeted about this.
00:29:00.000And it's interesting, whenever someone with a big account tweets, I just check and he said, anyone listening to me and Amit's discussion on Rumble?
00:29:06.000With your 11 million followers, I checked, I lost 12 followers.
00:29:12.000And you probably lost about a million just tweeting me.
00:29:14.000But what we're trying to do is we've become activists and we're just trying to raise awareness because this has been going on for nearly nine months now, Russell.
00:29:21.000It's nine months that women are being quashed.
00:29:24.000People are being executed almost every other day.
00:29:27.000If I can just come on and just raise a bit of awareness, you can go online and see what everyone's saying and what they're talking about.
00:29:33.000I think that's the best thing I can do is raise awareness.
00:30:26.000I never got, I never got a laugh with it.
00:30:28.000I'd say the D, Jalili, the D is silent.
00:30:30.000It's a bit like Enos with a silent P, but it never got a laugh.
00:30:34.000But I think there are lots of other accounts.
00:30:35.000Like there's a woman called Massey Ali Najad, who's a journalist and she's a, She's very much beloved.
00:30:40.000In fact, the IRGC, the Islamic Republic, tried to get her bumped off.
00:30:44.000This is the thing that these people, the reason why we're talking about this is because it's actually, it affects our collective security in the West.
00:30:54.000In America, people were trying to kill her.
00:30:56.000We had a hunger striker outside the foreign office called Vahid Beheshti and they've now given him a fatwa.
00:31:03.000It's like as if We're allowing these people to operate in the West.
00:31:07.000We're allowing them to do whatever they want, and we're not showing strength, not standing up to these people.
00:31:13.000And I think that's the thing that's upsetting everyone.
00:31:16.000And what the women are trying to do is essentially, it's a non-violent... It's actually a very beautiful revolution.
00:31:23.000It's non-violent, although I think what they'll do with the Mullahs, they talk about tearing them to pieces, but that's by the by.
00:31:29.000But it is a spiritual revolution in the sense that All of us, even myself as a Baha'i, we believe the only way you can affect real change is if you actually talk about the things that matter, which is why are we here?
00:31:50.000And if you teach people this at a young age, Then you'll realize the last thing you want to do is hurt someone.
00:31:56.000So the fact that these people are using religion to execute people for protesting, to shoot people in the eyes, to maim, to kill, to put people in solitary confinement for about 10 years.
00:32:09.000It means they haven't had the spiritual education.
00:32:11.000I think that really is what the women are saying in Iran, that we need to totally realign and reconfigure our relationships between the individual, the community and institutions.
00:32:24.000Because at the moment institutions just do everything to stay in power and they do it at the expense of normal people and they should be serving the people Brain Wilson who's been on our show is, when I reflect on it, inexplicably Baha'i.
00:32:35.000and execute them. So that's the thing, that's the kind of cycle they're trying to break.
00:32:40.000Brain Wilson, who's been on our show, is, when I reflect on it, inexplicably Baha'i.
00:32:45.000And just before you joined us, I was talking about Gandhi and the impact of Gandhi on activism
00:32:53.000and the efficacy of non-violent protest and how any movement has to be underwritten ultimately
00:32:59.000by some pretty hefty principles and values if it's gonna get anywhere.
00:33:05.000Of course Gladwell famously wrote that new movements that coalesce online don't have the robustness that say for example the civil rights movements of the 1950s in America have because they are by their nature remote and tangential and if you're going to Perhaps sacrifice your life for something you believe in.
00:33:25.000It usually requires a deep affinity not only with the cause but with other people because being human we naturally undulate in our willingness to sacrifice in our faith and belief that change can take place.
00:33:39.000One of the things that I'm keen to inhere into our channel is a A sense that what we are striving for is something that's
00:33:47.000transcendent of the cultural values that are ordinarily used to separate and divide us.
00:33:54.000That we have access individually and via that, through that, collectively to a deep power.
00:34:01.000That if you are willing to sacrifice yourself, if you are willing to live a simple life of service,
00:34:06.000if you are willing to confront the systems within yourself, my own corruption, my own greed, my own biases,
00:34:12.000my own requirement for power, my own willingness to be hypocritical and corrupt.
00:34:16.000If I'm willing to make conquests on the level of the self, then I can be a useful servant in this world.
00:34:24.000It seems to me, Omid, that these are the very issues that you're grappling with, and anyone that's interested in changing their own life and challenging the world is ultimately going to have to have a relationship with ideas of that nature.
00:34:35.000How far, mate, are you willing to take something like this?
00:35:36.000And all because they were Baha'is and they were told to recant their faith and they refused because they said, look, you're asking us to lie about wanting a better world.
00:35:45.000You're asking us to lie that we don't believe in the equality of men and women.
00:35:48.000You're asking us to lie that we believe in the one God.
00:35:51.000So they said no, and they were given many chances to recant and they didn't.
00:35:54.000So one by one, they were all hanged in front of each other.
00:35:57.000there's a photograph online of the ten women, they're all young, and it shocked everyone
00:36:03.000to their core. And in fact, this story, when it broke 40 years ago, it moved some artists.
00:36:09.000You can see there's a pop video was made called Mona with the Children by Jack Lenz and Doug
00:36:14.000Cameron, which got to number one in North America. Some people might remember it, but
00:36:19.000it gave you a very good idea of this kind of handmaid's tale type.
00:36:23.000You know, Margaret Atwood, when she wrote Handmaid's Tale, she probably had the Islamic Republic in mind.
00:36:28.000I don't know if people know that, but these 10 women have actually inspired the women in Iran now because they stood up for something.
00:36:37.000They actually gave their lives for an idea.
00:37:07.000I'm writing a piece for the Eye newspaper.
00:37:09.000I'm going to try and raise awareness to back the women of Iran because these are the stories that are pushing them now to move forward and say, we've had enough.
00:37:28.000I went, no, if I take it down, it looked like the regime was taking it down.
00:37:32.000So I kept up and speaking to other comedian friends and other people in the diaspora who had a platform, we thought, we've got to do something.
00:37:39.000We've got to stand up and we've got to start a wave because social media is like your weapon.
00:37:44.000Because that's the one thing they don't like.
00:37:45.000Whenever they're about to execute someone, we all go online to don't execute this person.
00:40:43.000And I'll tell you, just before I did it, I said, is there any chance?
00:40:46.000The bloke who set it up, he goes, just because it's you, what we've done, an inch to one side, if you go top left, we've given you an inch of mistake that you can do.
00:40:55.000If you go top left and you could do it.
00:41:41.000Robo Keeper was actually decommissioned after because if a fat bald 55 year old could do it, they decommissioned it straight away.
00:41:48.000I believe, having seen that, that you can bring about a peaceful revolution in Iran and an all-woman government to replace the Sharia law that's currently incumbent.
00:41:58.000There's just a one-inch margin where we will allow a democratic, feminist-led movement, and Ahmed is the man to lead it.
00:42:03.000Anything can happen with Ahmed Jalili.
00:42:05.000Anything can happen with Ahmed Jalili.
00:42:06.000Go to ahmedjalili.com if you want to see Ahmed.
00:42:08.000Support Ahmed's Turkey and Syria earthquake effort, as well as following Ahmed on Twitter.
00:42:14.000Next time I speak to Ahmed Jalili, I want him to say, bloody hell, I've got a lot more followers on Twitter now, and I'm not being constantly spammed with information that you're a conspiracy theorist and a right-wing lunatic.
00:42:25.000But I do believe that... But if we keep raising awareness, that's the thing, in the West, if we keep raising awareness, something will shift.
00:42:33.000By the way, and can I just say this, this is very, very important.
00:42:35.000This isn't just about a bunch of brown people on a far off land who cause chaos and it's got nothing to do with us.
00:42:45.000If you stub your toe, you stub your little toe, the toe is furthest away from your brain, but it bloody hurts.
00:42:50.000So what's going on over there affects us and actually, If Iran, which is the cause of so much instability, if that place calms down and we get rid of this lot, you'll see a calmer Middle East and that should be good for all of us around the world.
00:43:05.000The collective security of the world will be increased with what the women are trying to achieve there.
00:43:11.000I mean, thanks for educating us on that important issue.
00:43:14.000You can join our locals community by clicking the red button on your screen right now, where you'll also be able to access our full RFK Junior interview, as well as doing guided meditations with me.
00:44:23.000When I saw you four years later, I thought, I tell you what, now that he's cleaned himself up, he could be one of the biggest voices in the world, and that's exactly what you've become.