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00:00:13.000What are these vibrations that we interpret in our minds?
00:00:17.000If you're watching us on YouTube, We'll be here for 15 minutes and you would miss out on my conversation with Patrick Bet-David who's joining us on a breaking news day.
00:00:26.000He's getting indicted from every single direction.
00:00:30.000I've never seen indictments rain down.
00:00:33.000These indictments are burning and blazing like the neglected fires of Hawaii that are not being addressed and could be the result of infrastructure and you know there's some interesting theories about how those fires started and even if they didn't start As a result of Bill Gates's space laser, which there's, let's face it, no evidence for, certainly elite interests benefit from disasters like this one.
00:00:55.000In fact, every disaster appears to benefit a particular strata of society.
00:01:04.000It's just one of the questions I'll be talking to Patrick Bet-David on.
00:01:07.000So if you're about, so if you're watching this on YouTube, there's a link in the description.
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00:01:20.000What happens is I keep drinking these energy drinks.
00:01:56.000Part of the problem with these indictments, whether the charges that are being proffered are true or not, the simple fact is no one trusts the surrounding systems, judicial, electoral or political.
00:02:10.000So it's astonishing to see Hillary Clinton and Rachel Maddow chatting about this as if there's naught but ubiquitous approval to be gleaned.
00:02:18.000As if Hillary Clinton didn't participate in Russiagate.
00:02:22.000As if even in the state of Georgia, Stacey Abrams, a Democrat candidate, didn't say, this is an election that we will be disputing.
00:03:03.000What about your involvement in the Iraq war?
00:03:05.000What about the confederation that you have with your husband, Bill, that seems to raise a lot of money?
00:03:11.000There are so many questions that Rachel Maddow could be asking but isn't asking.
00:03:15.000And isn't that the problem with the mainstream media?
00:03:18.000It's the inquiries that they don't pursue.
00:03:20.000It's the acknowledgements that they don't offer us.
00:03:22.000I mean, those of you that are watching us on YouTube, part of our army of 6.5 million awakening wonders, you'll still be able to research that famous clip where Rachel Maddow says, if you take it, that's it.
00:03:44.000The whole damn conglomerate claiming that, which amounts to, I would say, intervention in elections.
00:03:52.000Certainly Russiagate amounted to that.
00:03:54.000So when there is no moral authority, how can you condemn somebody for acting in alignment, even then that's the nature of these accusations, with an already corrupted and broken system?
00:04:23.000Do you Clinton talks as if there's no one in the world that regards her as the very epitome of an establishment career politician.
00:04:31.000The very cause of a figure like Trump.
00:04:35.000The very cause of the mistrust and anti-establishment fervor that many of us feel.
00:04:40.000The reason that Trump can say, I'm probably one indictment away from a landslide if they keep giving me these indictments, this election's in the bag.
00:04:47.000Because he knows that the more that he's regarded as an anti-establishment figure, the more popular he becomes.
00:04:54.000And to see the kind of self-congratulatory manner of this conversation shows you how we have these two separate ideological camps that are oblivious of one another's existence, except when it comes to condemning them, and no acknowledgement of their own failings and flaws.
00:05:10.000These are the kind of spiritual principles that I have to run my own life on.
00:05:14.000Personal fallibility, willingness to change, willing to listen to and acknowledge other people's perspectives.
00:05:19.000Without those tools, you're just gonna have ossified camps.
00:05:22.000Yeah, also, isn't part of the deal with, like, CNN and MSNBC, why they say, oh, we're so much better than Fox because we're meant to be impartial?
00:05:28.000I mean, if you're impartial on the case against Donald Trump and you get on Hillary Clinton, it doesn't show you to be all that impartial, in my opinion.
00:05:35.000Is that the most impartial person you could summons up from Hades that day?
00:05:56.000I just feel great that this is happening.
00:05:58.000For the first time in my life, I look right.
00:06:01.000Not since Bill marched in with that cigar and she wandered out in that blue dress have I ever felt more like my intuition was serving me well.
00:06:12.000He set out to defraud the United States of America and the citizens of our nation.
00:06:19.000If it's a fraudulent and corrupt system, if you have a media that continually lies to you, if you have stories about the Hunter Biden laptop withheld because it might sway the election, when we spoke to Vivek Ramaswamy last week, he said the election was stolen.
00:08:29.000The more you say Biden's done a great job, Biden's a great president, Biden's this, the moment he steps out and he's not in it anymore, Biden, the market's gonna say, look how loyal Newsom was to Biden, but look how disloyal DeSantis was to Trump, and then boom, Newsom becomes a president.
00:08:49.000So that's one of the things that we have to keep in mind that could be the scenario.
00:08:54.000The other one is the fact that the Democrats are sitting there waiting for Michelle Obama or somebody to get in the race.
00:09:00.000They keep writing articles to see if she's going to bite.
00:09:03.000Because if they don't, and they timed us the wrong way with Biden, Can you imagine if RFK becomes a candidate for them on the left and if Vivek passes up the Santas?
00:09:15.000It's a very weird, unpredictable election.
00:09:18.000So whenever you watch in sports, you want it to be a Super Bowl or a final that you don't know who's going to win it.
00:09:24.000This is one of those that there's a lot of possibilities of who could end up winning a year from now.
00:09:29.000What concerns me, Patrick, perhaps more than anything, is that there is so much cynicism about our political processes and systems right now.
00:09:39.000There's no one that has any real trust in electoral democracy.
00:09:43.000No one has any trust in the judiciary.
00:09:46.000Whatever happens in 2024, the side that loses is going to declare that it was a fraudulent election.
00:09:52.000You can almost guarantee it. There are new independent media voices
00:09:57.000emerging and like both you and I are part of that movement and there
00:10:01.000perhaps is a requirement for independent political figures or at least
00:10:04.000renegades within the system like RFK. I wonder mate if you feel that that's to
00:10:10.000some degree because just take this current story the wildfires raging across
00:10:15.000Hawaii that already a subject to considerable pontification
00:10:20.000And many people are entertaining pretty extraordinary conspiracy theories that it was started deliberately by lasers that Bill Gates benefits.
00:10:27.000One of the reasons I think these conspiracies gain traction is because it does look like Like there will be powerful interests that will benefit from those fires when Hawaii, that particular island, is rebuilt.
00:10:40.000And when Joe Biden is unable to offer a comment when directly asked, it shows the inefficiency and ineptitude of our current, or your, I'm not American, your current president.
00:10:52.000I wonder if this cynicism is therefore And whether any political candidate, other than the sort of outlier renegades that we've already touched upon, can do anything to change and improve such atrophying and broken systems.
00:11:09.000Uh, it's going to be tough because one, you're going up against the machine that knows how to ruin your life.
00:11:16.000And it's got all the weapons in the world to ruin your life.
00:11:19.000If they want to target somebody, they can throw everything at you for longest time.
00:11:24.000The way you did it historically, if you wanted to eliminate an opponent, you did it the way, you know, uh, Ecuador just did it.
00:11:33.000You know, that's the old school way, right?
00:11:35.000You just get rid of them and, Blame a shooter and then make sure you bring the shooter to the office and then you shoot the shooter.
00:11:44.000So the guy that you may have paid off to shoot a Republican presidential candidate in Ecuador, make sure you eliminate the shooter as well.
00:11:51.000That's happened before with John F. Kennedy, with Jack Ruby, and then boom.
00:11:55.000You know, with Lee Harvey Oswald, and then Jack Ruby takes him out, so Lee Harvey Oswald's not there.
00:12:03.000If we think about what's happened from the 60s till today, for Americans to no longer trust their government, it's very, very well deserved.
00:12:12.000John F.K's assassination, we still don't fully know what's going on from the government telling us the story.
00:13:22.000government had a credit score, You know, in America, when you want to buy a house, you have to have a credit score of 720 and up to get a decent, you know, rate and all this stuff.
00:13:30.000If we go based on a perfect score is an 820, give or take 850 is a perfect score.
00:13:34.000The US government's credit score right now is a 450.
00:15:06.000This is what's going on today, Russell, which is a beautiful thing.
00:15:10.000There's guys like you who sacrificed a career in what many would dream about being in big movies, big shows, the beautiful Hollywood stars, the women, the girls, the partying.
00:15:26.000You gave all of that stuff up to do this.
00:15:33.000And then somebody would say, man, that's a big 180.
00:15:37.000The point I'm trying to make is the following.
00:15:39.000I believe true believers are waking up and they're finding each other.
00:15:42.000If there was no social media and podcasting, the chances of you and I, me from the insurance industry and you from Hollywood doing a show like this would probably be zero.
00:15:54.000But today, a guy like you who chose to leave the, you know, Hollywood industry and maybe you're still doing stuff, but where you were at before, Or me saying, you know what, I'm sick and tired of what's going on in America.
00:16:12.000We're forcing people to have to answer questions, whether it's ESG, whether it's term limits, whether it's the, you know, what they're doing with their elections that they're saying, don't talk about it.
00:16:22.000And then eventually YouTube's coming back and saying, well, we were giving strikes.
00:16:26.000We were saying, you can't talk about it.
00:16:27.000Now you can, now we're no longer taking those videos off.
00:16:31.000It's because of us talking and the louder we get, I think those types of candidates are going to show up to be able to synergize America and take it more in the direction that it needs to go to.
00:17:04.000We have a great relationship, for example, with RFK, we're starting a relationship with you.
00:17:09.000We already have a good relationship with Tucker.
00:17:11.000I know you spoke to Vivek Ramaswamy, and they are geared up.
00:17:15.000You can see even technically they're geared up to come on these shows now.
00:17:19.000Their technical setup demonstrates that they're invested in this type of media,
00:17:25.000that this type of media is a requirement.
00:17:27.000In fact, Trump's ascent was somewhat built on his ability to bypass traditional media outlets
00:17:34.000and the centralized gatekeepers of what are commonly regarded as legacy media.
00:17:40.000So do you feel beyond an ability to host conversations, Patrick, in this space, an obligation to get involved in electoral politics, either by supporting preferred candidates or even by getting involved with politics more directly?
00:17:57.000Yeah, for me, uh, I think we all are playing a different role with our background.
00:18:01.000Me, uh, I'm a guy that doesn't like bullies.
00:18:03.000And I think a lot of these guys have been bullying the American people.
00:18:06.000America has been, in my opinion, the greatest country in the world.
00:18:22.000Then I come to the States here, then I joined the Army, and then I go into business, I go into finance, and then I build an insurance company and it grows, and then I sell the insurance company.
00:18:31.000Last year we licensed roughly 45, 46,000 insurance agents nationwide, and part-time I start creating content.
00:18:39.000And then now it's turned into a media company, consulting from all these things that it's doing.
00:18:43.000The best part about Avengers is everybody has their own superpower.
00:18:48.000We're not all going to have the same superpower.
00:18:50.000We're all going to have our own independent way of giving our messages.
00:18:53.000Your angle is going to go from a different angle.
00:18:54.000Mine's going to go from a different place.
00:18:56.000Ben's going to go from a different place.
00:18:57.000Tucker's going to go a different place.
00:19:43.000So I think that the model of what some of these guys, like, let's just say DeSantis is using the people from Ted Cruz's camp, And they're just getting the big mainstream media places to go to and RFK is disrupting it.
00:19:57.000Some of these guys are disrupting it in ways that you're sitting there saying, he's doing three podcasts a day.
00:20:02.000You're going on CNN once a week, or you're going on Fox twice a week.
00:20:06.000That guy doing three, four or five podcasts a day is going to school you because he's going to be everywhere.
00:20:10.000We ran the data, Russell, very interesting data.
00:20:13.000We ran when I had our, uh, when I had Vivek at the town hall, From January of this year, January of this year, till the town hall, which was two weeks ago with Vivek, to see whose Twitter followers has increased the most from January of this year to end of July, the numbers.
00:20:34.000Mike Pence was the only one whose Twitter followers decreased.
00:21:25.000Did you ever think about RFK is going to run for office one day?
00:21:27.000Like, did you ever sit there and say, I think this guy's going to run for president.
00:21:32.000That's probably not somebody we thought is going to run for president, let alone, Run for president and create the kind of momentum that he's created.
00:21:40.000This is all a beautiful sign that the control is coming back to us.
00:21:45.000You and I, regular people who are not controlled by mainstream media that are going out there and saying, I got basic questions for you.
00:22:12.000And, you know, we talked about the establishment of scientists because scientists, you know, they don't believe in God because many scientists want to be God because God forbid scientists get anything wrong.
00:22:34.000And he said, the establishment scientists don't like debate.
00:22:37.000They're being forced now to debate because it's either the government investigating aliens, it's either professors investigating at universities or it's private, right?
00:22:49.000Us doing what we're doing, we're pissing off the establishment mainstream media.
00:22:53.000And I got to tell you, it's a beautiful thing.
00:22:56.000Yeah, even when you think about in the world of entertainment, the phenomena around Sound of Freedom shows that a film can be financed via a crowd, promoted via new media, can have topics and subjects that while they might once have been considered worthy of Disney, because I believe they for a moment owned that script and were across that project, Ultimately it's not something they wanted to bring to air and there are a host of reasons for that.
00:23:19.000Some people terrifyingly think that even the subject of the movie was part of the reason for the reticence to release it.
00:23:26.000But what it shows us from a media perspective and a business perspective is that there are now, that we are as you say, now at a tipping point where there are sufficient people I'm fascinated by your personal story and I'd love to get into that a little more.
00:23:39.000in the same way, isn't biased in the same way, hasn't been sanctioned by the sort of elite
00:23:43.000interests that presumably would have put men like you and I on opposing sides once upon a time.
00:23:49.000Your background is in finance, I'm fascinated by your personal story and I'd love to get into that
00:23:54.000a little more, but the fact that you know a little while ago I would have been regarded as and was
00:23:58.000openly called in fact like a sort of a woolly liberal, sometimes even a communist, but what
00:24:00.000a sort of a woolly liberal, sometimes even a communist. But what I've always been is anti-establishment,
00:24:03.000I've always been is anti-establishment, pro-individual freedom. I've always been in favour
00:24:06.000pro-individual freedom. I've always been in favour of people being able to be who they are and live
00:24:09.000of people being able to be who they are and live their lives how they want to, I've always been in
00:24:12.000their lives how they want to. I've always been in favour of people being able to run their
00:24:15.000communities with as little intervention from the state and with as little disruption from
00:24:20.000private corrupt Goliath interests as possible. But it seems now that there is more opportunity
00:24:26.000for new alliances, whether it's in the world of entertainment and media or politically. And I
00:24:31.000suppose what you're saying is that we're going to see more of that and it's going to be more effective
00:24:35.000and even the candidacy of Vivec and the candidacy of RFK demonstrates that it's becoming
00:25:38.000Hollywood forgot that that's why they're in Hollywood.
00:25:41.000Now they're going to be leaving Hollywood and going elsewhere.
00:25:43.000And by the way, This whole strike thing that's going on and you know, all the AI fears that they have and you know, with Bob Iger and going back and forth with writers.
00:27:16.000Snow White was a girl's dream growing up to find a man that's gonna kiss her and fall in love and now we're looking at courting as stalking?
00:30:54.000And you're starting to see SMP says, we're no longer looking at your ESG score
00:30:59.000and McDonald's removed every single word on their website of ESG, we're making progress.
00:31:04.000So there's gonna be a lot of different industries will be disrupted the more we talk about it.
00:31:07.000Patrick, as a self-declared capitalist, how do you using just the metaphor
00:31:14.000that you just laid out for us, one area hotels where it's sort of like a business
00:31:19.000that doesn't require sickness or exploitation or war seems like a legitimate endeavor that provides a service.
00:31:26.000How do we, where are the lines drawn between a capitalism that's built on the free market service of people that require a product and capitalism that Cap sizes social models such as in your example where a health care system requires sickness and you can see how big food require that we eat processed sugars and and seed oils and food that we know make us sick and yet we're not given the correct information about that food and those foods are proliferated and a big farmer industry that is self-regulating
00:31:58.000And only benefits if there are a sufficient number of people sick and if they can and they're able to propagate their products and a war industry that requires ongoing conflict and death at the heart of its economic model.
00:32:10.000How do we ensure and how do we indeed segregate capitalism which is about providing a service,
00:32:17.000whether that's a media service or some other commodity, to a willing consensual public
00:32:21.000and the kind of capitalism that plainly is pulling the strings of political apparent
00:32:27.000public servants that fund both the Democrat party and Republican party, that require war,
00:32:33.000that require sickness, that have essentially bought and paid for our political process?
00:32:37.000How do we draw that distinction? Because I think a lot of people that are cynical about
00:32:41.000what you might call right-wing politics are cynical on the basis of, you know, I'm sure
00:32:45.000there are cultural and social issues, yes, you know, we've covered those, but economically
00:32:49.000the idea that the market should govern has clearly gotten to a point where we have got
00:32:55.000a kind of metastasized capitalism, precisely in the form that you're describing, where
00:33:02.000are able to agure political situations that are detrimental to ordinary people and yet beneficial to elites.
00:33:09.000Even with this Hawaii story, you get the sense that already ordinary working people that come from families that are recognizable to most of us will probably suffer and there will be assets available and real estate available for people that want high-end properties.
00:33:37.000First of all, you know, it's kind of weird with this whole Hawaii thing, where we're willing to send $100, $150 billion to Ukraine, but the president doesn't want to make a comment on Maui.
00:33:45.000And somehow, some way, certain homes weren't affected by it, as if they got better sprinklers than the other houses.
00:33:51.000And at the same time, these fires that came in and hit up, the people that lost their homes, they're getting callers.
00:33:56.000From realtors, local investors saying, Hey, are you willing to sell your land?
00:34:36.000I want to say, and here's how it was Russell, very interesting concept that when we had this guy, this company that said, Hey, we're launching this product vitality.
00:34:51.000And if you wore the Fitbit and it reported that you're exercising after a month, three months, six months, 12 months, your cost of insurance would go lower.
00:35:00.000So hey, this person's moving their body.
00:35:18.000Don't just charge me as much as you want to for different things.
00:35:21.000The problem can be solved purely with incentives.
00:35:24.000Russell, this is a very interesting thing we did yesterday.
00:35:27.000Looking at... I had Cenk Uygur on the podcast.
00:35:31.000Couple weeks ago, him and I politically are on complete opposite sides.
00:35:35.000And he says, Hey Pat, don't you think we need to offer people 12 weeks of paternity leave, maternity leave, you know, when they have a kid and the husband and the wife can step away for 12 weeks and we should pay for it.
00:36:21.000Do you know when Social Security first came out, or the entitlement programs first came out by FDR, it was supposed to be a temporary program.
00:36:28.000It wasn't supposed to be a long-term program.
00:36:29.000It was supposed to be, hey, Great Depression happened.
00:37:31.000When you look at the numbers, Russell, if I were to ask you a question, I'm actually curious to know what you say to this.
00:37:37.000In 1940, What percentage of kids in America were born to a single mother who's never been married before, who doesn't have a husband, who's not married?
00:37:50.000What percentage of kids in 1940 do you think in America were born to a single mother, no husband in the picture?
00:37:56.000Firstly, I grew up with a single mother, but my perspective is that we tend to manage the conversation around morality and conflating, for example, single parenthood, addiction, mental health with moral issues.
00:38:14.000And even in this part of our conversation, Patrick, it distracts from... I think when we're having conversations about power, and I think you have to focus on the powerful.
00:38:24.000Now, whether or not single mothers or drug addicts or mentally ill people or even immigrants are costly to a society, that's certainly a conversation we can have, and I'm totally willing to have that conversation.
00:38:34.000But I'm more interested in how we discern the difference between effective and responsible capitalism and gargantuan capitalist institutions like BlackRock, Vanguard, etc., and their impact.
00:38:46.000If BlackRock Rock are going to rebuild Ukraine after this expensive war
00:38:50.000that's costing the average American taxpayer $900 a year that none of you guys have been
00:39:05.000I prefer to keep my focus on what are the movements and machinations of the powerful.
00:39:11.000So what I'm asking, I think, is how do you regulate and control these vast institutions
00:39:15.000that have more powerful than government and operate on a global scale.
00:39:19.000That's like, you know, because the sort of moral failings, if indeed it is that, of individuals and the sort of increase of single mothers for me is less important because I know how those people live and it ain't good.
00:39:31.000So, like, I'm more interested in the powerful, Patrick.
00:40:11.000So at first they said, we're going to be able to eliminate poverty by giving these incentive programs and these entitlement programs to the people.
00:40:21.000Do you know how many years it took to realize this doesn't work?
00:40:24.000It took us 55 years to realize it doesn't work.
00:40:27.000Today, the amount of entitlement programs we have, we almost have to do stuff to take advantage of American people because they're so reliant on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Section 8, child tax benefits, all this stuff that we have.
00:41:47.000We have to have people that are working under the administration that understand this space to start telling them, you cannot be doing this anymore.
00:41:55.000The whole concept of ESG has to be eliminated where today, if somebody wants to go out there and win an Oscar, I have to meet certain requirements for me to be nominated for an Oscar.
00:42:05.000A third of my employees have to be part of an underrepresented community for what?
00:42:09.000If that was the case, the last 50 movies that won an Oscar, none of them would win an Oscar.
00:42:13.000These are ludicrous policies that we're putting in place to have control of what this person needs to do,
00:42:18.000rather than hiring people that can do the job like Sound of Freedom and do 150 plus million dollars,
00:42:23.000and they could care less about their ESG score.
00:42:25.000There's things that we can do to break those things apart, but it starts with actually following the laws
00:42:31.000that we have in place, not allowing companies to have monopolies,
00:42:34.000because once they do, they have control over things.
00:43:01.000We got to break apart some of these companies.
00:43:02.000These are things that a president could do.
00:43:04.000These are things that leaders could do.
00:43:06.000But to do that, It's going to be tough to do it if you took money from those guys.
00:43:11.000It's going to be tough to do if those guys are funding you.
00:43:14.000It's going to be tough to do if there's always going to be money in elections.
00:43:17.000It's going to be tough to do if there's always going to be lobbyists in there.
00:43:20.000Like, look, to, to, to rehaul this whole thing, when talking to Vivek, Vivek's like, I'm, I'm, I'm here for revolution.
00:43:27.000I think the next phase, Russell, to get it to where you and I can be comfortable, where These capitalists, crony capitalists, are buying up people left and right.
00:43:37.000Senators for $10,000, $20,000 to get stuff that they want their way.
00:43:42.000Congressmen that you know are going to be there for 20, 30, 40 years, you can buy them up, no problem.
00:43:47.000They're not going to have to deal with insider trading.
00:43:58.000But to do that, It's extremely, extremely risky because I no longer, I used to think as a naive guy, when I was 14 years old, I went to school, a teacher started talking about Democrats and Republicans and independence, all this stuff.
00:44:11.000I came home one day and I said, mom, are we Republicans or Democrats?
00:44:33.000I can't stand being poor, but it's no longer about Republicans and Democrats because you and I may not be politically on the same side, but we agree on a lot of things.
00:44:42.000It's today now more about you're either for the establishment or you're against it.
00:44:48.000The against people have a very hard job.
00:44:50.000The against people, very hard to get elected.
00:44:53.000The against people will be demonized, character assassination, destroyed, targeted.
00:45:02.000Not for you, not for your wife, not for your kids, not for anybody.
00:45:06.000There's a lot of risk for speaking the anti-establishment language, let alone being an anti-establishment candidate.
00:45:12.000But unfortunately, or fortunately, that's exactly what we need today.
00:45:16.000Yeah, I think I agree with you on a great deal there, Patrick.
00:45:20.000It's plain that we see some things pretty differently.
00:45:23.000As I stated before, my preference is to focus on where power is.
00:45:27.000And whilst, you know, similarly, I've made a journey through a number of different economic classes, I...
00:45:34.000Always like to maintain in our discourse, where are particular news stories being used to enhance the power of already advantaged systems and institutions, whether they are deep state, governmental, or corporate and financial.
00:45:51.000And what I'm interested in learning more about is what models within free market capitalism can be moral and effective, and how we manage the delicate balance between Regulation and assuring that legitimate entrepreneurship is able to succeed.
00:46:08.000We've got a social movement that we're participating in.
00:46:12.000We've got a media organization that we're participating in.
00:46:15.000We have ambitions in our organization to improve the lives of as many people as possible and a strong sense that real change will come from personal spiritual awakening and decentralized Movements of government.
00:46:29.000The opportunity to control your own community means that it's no longer necessary to have a strong moral opinion on the behaviors and preferences of another religious, cultural community or people that organize their identity around gender or sexuality or identity.
00:46:46.000I think that these conversations create more conflict than they resolve and they don't address the fundamental issue and I've had these conversations with A good number of people, the same people that I imagine that you're speaking to in your space.
00:46:59.000But one thing I know is integral is that if you're unable to access, destabilize, disrupt, attack, centralize the organizations of government, Finance, global corporatism that are by their nature, as you say, monopolist and not truly competitive, gargantuan, buying up competitors, posing them, presenting themselves as ingenious and scientific, as in the case of Pfizer, for example, recently, when in practice, they function more like an enterprise that purchases smaller organizations, acquiring their patents, etc.
00:47:40.000We're continually distracted and seduced by narratives of conflict.
00:47:44.000That's why, personally, I tend to keep away from arguments and conversations around immigration, even though I know it's important to people.
00:47:52.000Welfare and subjects like that, even though I know they're important to people.
00:47:56.000Not because I want to avoid the subjects or because I believe I have solutions to them.
00:48:00.000It's just a more of an intuitive sense that you will not resolve the issues of our time by focusing on the most vulnerable people, whether they are immigrants or whether they are from, you know, any members of an economic class, where I think it is our obligation to find alliances and new ways of coming together.
00:48:20.000And then I think you can regionalize whether or not you're going to have immigration in
00:48:25.000your community or whether you're going to have programs to support single mothers or
00:48:30.000whether it's going to be traditional or progressive values.
00:48:33.000A lot of people I've spoken to think that these issues are primarily used to drive conflict
00:48:38.000and certainly that's how I've seen them play out because I find people who think,
00:48:41.000I agree with you that we have to disrupt and attack the establishment and I also agree
00:48:46.000that you should be able to have your own moral and cultural practices because that's the