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00:02:31.000Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:02:34.000It's a brilliant and spectacular show with the impressive Naomi Wolf talking primarily about her book, The Pfizer Papers, Pfizer's Crimes Against Humanity.
00:02:42.000She's edited together and created a bunch of essays that ultimately start by telling you the degree of corruption that's taken place during the pandemic period, but end with, certainly our conversation did, the idea that the power behind that is...
00:02:58.000Not beyond imagination, because it is imaginable, but it's certainly beyond rational discourse, and I think you'll really enjoy this conversation.
00:03:06.000Also, you should become an Awaken Wonder, then you can join me every week for a Christian conversation talking about the spiritual dimension of the global revolution that I believe needs to take place.
00:03:16.000The only way that it could take place without falling into some sort of statist or corporatist tyranny.
00:03:23.000And if you want to be part of that conversation, become an Awakened Wonder, you'll love it.
00:03:26.000And even if you're not a Christian, even if you're a Muslim or a Jew or an atheist, these conversations are designed to...
00:03:32.000I suppose make you consider reality from a different perspective, but maybe all conversations are that, I don't know.
00:03:38.000Anyway, let's get into our conversation with Naomi Wolf, and please know that her book, The Pfizer Papers, Pfizer's Crimes Against Humanity, what a title, is available now, and there's a link in the description to it.
00:03:50.000Naomi, thanks so much for joining us for Stay Free with Russell Brand today.
00:03:55.000Thanks so much for having me, Russell Brand.
00:03:58.000We've already spoken several times and we've even discussed the subject that we're here to discuss in greater depth today.
00:04:06.000The levels of potential corruption, hypocrisy and deception that have taken place in particular during the pandemic period and yet more particular still when it comes to the administering and near mandating and actual mandating in certain instances of various mRNA vaccines as they are still to a degree known but in particular Pfizer's products.
00:04:28.000What is it that is so significant about the contents of your new book, The Pfizer Papers, Pfizer's Crimes Against Humanity?
00:04:36.000What is it that you want people to be apprised of that's going to change their perspective?
00:04:42.000Because, look, I live in this space...
00:04:44.000And do you know what I think that we face at the moment?
00:04:49.000People are like, oh yeah, well, they didn't clinically trial for transmission.
00:04:53.000Oh, it seems there were some adverse events.
00:04:55.000And when we spoke last time, I know that part of your personal, let's call it cancellation, was because of your published work when it came to the impact of those medicines or products.
00:05:08.000On female reproductivity and menstrual cycles and stuff, and that that was kept quiet.
00:05:14.000How are these arguments being significantly, excuse me, and indefatigably advanced by your recent works?
00:05:21.000And what is it that's going to impact Pfizer and the way that governments behave in future when it comes to medications?
00:05:29.000Yeah, that's a fair question, because I have been talking about these papers for two years now.
00:05:37.000And you and I actually spoke about kind of headlines from this document that were in a previous book for mine, Facing the Beast.
00:05:47.000So it's fair to say what is the earth-shaking news that is in the Pfizer papers, and I can answer that.
00:05:55.000This project started when Pfizer was forced by a successful lawsuit by attorney Aaron Seary to release 450,000 documents under court order.
00:06:08.000And the FDA asked the court to keep these documents concealed for 75 years.
00:06:16.000So I did tell you all the last time I was speaking with you that the headlines we uncovered, my team of 3,250 doctors and scientists who volunteered to read through these massive, very technical documents and write what are now 109 very technical documents and write what are now 109 reports in plain English about what's in them, is that what we would see is the greatest crime against humanity in recorded history.
00:06:42.000And that's what this book, The Pfizer Papers, brings to readers.
00:06:46.000The difference is that these are the actual reports, Russell.
00:06:50.000These are not, you know, my interpretation, a third-party interpretation.
00:06:55.000These are the actual documents That Pfizer tried and the FDA tried to conceal as broken open by this team of volunteer doctors and scientists.
00:07:06.000And so in this book, you'll see that Pfizer knew that the vaccines didn't work to stop COVID. In fact, a month after rollout, they concluded that there was vaccine failure and failure of efficacy in their words.
00:07:20.000In fact, the third most common side effect is COVID. So, like, that should blow your mind because it means that Every single thing that followed November 2020, whether it was the mandates, the lost jobs, the split families, the divorces, the kids locked in their homes, the two-tier society that was rapidly put in place, the Jim Crow type society, all of that was based on a lie.
00:07:49.000Another thing you're going to see is that they knew that 1,225 people died.
00:07:55.000In just three months, which is the period Pfizer documents cover.
00:08:00.000They knew that although we were being told that the vaccine materials stayed in the injection site, Pfizer knew that they bio distribute throughout the human body.
00:08:13.000Robert Chandler, one of our experts, put it, it's like a shotgun blast to the body.
00:08:28.000And if you're a woman, they accumulate in your ovaries.
00:08:31.000Pfizer knew that even though we were told by the CDC and by the NHS in Britain and by all the public health authorities that maybe you'll have fever, maybe you'll have chills, Pfizer knew that there were There are almost 43,000 people in these three months who had serious adverse events.
00:08:51.000And there's over 100,000 of those adverse events.
00:08:56.000And they're not fever and chills and pain at the injection site.
00:09:01.000There are tens of thousands of blood clots, lung clots, leg clots, blood damage of all kinds.
00:09:09.000There's tens of thousands of neurological damage examples, like Strokes, and epilepsies, and convulsions, and dementias, and Alzheimer's, Guillain-Barre syndrome, Bell's palsy, tremors.
00:09:28.000Like, I literally, everywhere I go, I see the Pfizer tremor, or the Moderna tremor.
00:09:33.000And now we know what's causing that, because the lipid nanoparticles degrade the myelin sheath of the nerves.
00:09:40.000Pfizer knew that in these documents are Thousands and thousands of forms of heart damage, myocarditis, pericarditis, tachycardia.
00:09:52.000They knew that there was liver damage and kidney damage and that in many cases this happened within 48 hours of the injection.
00:10:03.000In our stroke report and our liver report, half of the adverse events took place within 48 hours Of the injection, including deaths.
00:10:17.000They knew that they were hiring 2,400 full-time staffers just to manage the flood of paperwork documenting adverse events, just right as the injection rolled out in the population.
00:10:30.000But I could go on and on about what they knew about the damage and deaths they were causing, but really the centerpiece, Mr.
00:10:38.000Brand, of these documents, you would expect that Since COVID is a respiratory illness, that the centerpiece of the research would be respiratory, right?
00:11:23.000And so I can start telling you about the rest of the reproductive damage if you like, or I can pause and let you think about what I'm sharing with you.
00:11:32.000Given that your answer to the first question becomes so broad and diffuse, it does amount to what I've always feared, that to undertake the reckoning that's required in order to truly understand what happened during the pandemic period, you almost have to dismantle such significant institutions of power that it amounts to a kind of revolution.
00:11:57.000Now, given that Trump was running America at the advent of the pandemic and Biden by its conclusion.
00:12:06.000How do we ensure that the type of justice that is meted and the type of changes that are required are ever...
00:12:20.000Because I'm assuming Pfizer are still pretty powerful, the NIH, the CDC are still pretty powerful.
00:12:27.000How is this information, just on the basis of your first answer, and we'll get into your findings in more depth, But aren't the findings in themselves so significant that to fully act upon them would mean, oh, well, we're going to have to get rid of the FDA, We're going to have to get rid of the NIH.
00:12:44.000The Republican Party and the Democratic Party appear somehow to have both been manipulated by financial interests, probably because of the degree of donations and the various ways that lobbyists can impact individual politicians and political parties as a whole.
00:12:59.000The media have been co-opted for reasons that have been explored previously because of the way that, you know, Pfizer advertised.
00:13:07.000So isn't like what are how do you proceed from here without like sort of, you know, sort of revolution, Naomi?
00:14:00.000Fauci, you know, with a template going up to POTUS. A meeting to conceal damage to miners' hearts from the mRNA injection in April of 2021.
00:14:12.000So you're right that it is a massive, massive crime committed by, you know, the heads of Many of our major institutions, what do you do?
00:14:38.000I lost eight great uncles and aunts to the Holocaust.
00:14:41.000I don't say this lightly, but We've been here before, not at this scale, right?
00:14:46.000Just because of the numbers of people who received this injection.
00:14:49.000But it's not the first time, you know, even in Nazi Germany, doctors and the medical professions were deputized to lead the advance to engage in evil science and to create a two-tier society and to disappear people, euthanize people.
00:15:12.000I mean, we had due process of law, and they were found guilty.
00:15:16.000And then the Geneva Conventions were established after the Nuremberg trials to make that impossible to happen ever again.
00:15:28.000Well, it's happened in a whole new way.
00:15:30.000But we've done so much to hold these people accountable already.
00:15:34.000For instance, Pfizer, I mean, Hedge fund managers are using our book to short Pfizer.
00:15:41.000Pfizer's revenues are down to 2016 levels.
00:15:44.000The giant bubble of the lies and the government checks crashed largely because of the work that we did in this book.
00:15:54.000So we've brought them to heel already.
00:15:57.000They've lost billions of dollars in toxic profits because we exposed that their product was neither safe nor effective.
00:16:05.000And that they knew that all along, that they were injuring people and killing people.
00:16:10.000You know, Bill Gates, I don't know where you are right now physically, but if you're in Europe, people are starting to be brought to trial there.
00:16:18.000Bill Gates, who was one of the leaders, the lead figures behind this global rollout, Country after country, right?
00:16:25.000And who invested in these vaccines and who bribed the media in Britain.
00:16:30.000He bribed the BBC in, you know, he bribed The Guardian.
00:16:34.000He bribed NPR. He bribed, you know, every major news outlet, every major medical, sorry, every major legacy news outlet with millions of dollars from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to quote, overcome vaccine hesitancy.
00:16:46.000Well, the Netherlands has a new government.
00:17:08.000Brand, a number of counties called to withdraw We've got two lawsuits against Pfizer and the White House and the CDC. Many people are suing, oh, there was a giant settlement in San Francisco this past week, millions of dollars to BART employees, which is their public transport system, who were mandated and lost their jobs because they didn't want to get the COVID vaccine.
00:18:16.000You know, I was in Britain at the Royal Courts of Justice with him as your Ofcom, your country's Ofcom, you know, tried to destroy his career, destroyed my career in Britain, you know, for the crime of reporting accurately on this injection.
00:18:32.000But because a handful of journalists and a handful of dissident doctors have not complied, this book is out now.
00:19:17.000I was also thinking about Albert Baller in the early parts of the pandemic, CEO of Pfizer, doing softball interviews on MSNBC or whatever, roundtable near fellatio sessions where he was able to sort of talk about moonshots and people were sort of drooling and doe-eyed over his corporate interests.
00:19:38.000And I was listening to it at the beginning of your answer where you talked about the Nuremberg trials and subsequent hangings and just some irritant voice at the back of my mind brought up Project Paperclip, or even as I was listening to that.
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00:21:16.000And I was feeling that the way that power, you know, the yes, over millennia and maybe epochs too broad to measure, the tendency might be towards justice.
00:21:31.000But I feel that where we still are is in a cycle of management, because even as we were outlining the breadth of corruption, the FDA, the NIH, the CDC, the WHO, Pfizer, et al., and the various bureaucrats within various corporate or state positions across that bizarre pantheon, and held aloft by those set of titans decorated by their logos, we didn't touch upon The censorship that was happening online.
00:22:01.000And then when you start, you know, so Facebook, of course, you know, it's now well understood the degree to which they were involved in repressing information.
00:22:08.000And because of Musk's acquisition of Twitter, we now know what was going on there as well.
00:22:15.000And even someone like you, as a former advisor of the Clinton government, it's astonishing for me, a denizen of this realm that I am, to hear a credible, respected journalist with pedigree use words like genocide and to recall the Holocaust.
00:22:41.000And believe me, in this space, being Jewish, I ain't going to protect you from bringing up the Holocaust and comparing it to or even inferring that this could be regarded as a global genocide.
00:22:54.000But when I look at some of the figures here, including sort of Edward Dowd's information on the increase in disability and the increase in excess deaths, which is something we've been covering, and the birth rate decline, which could be up to 20% since 2021, and that's using government which could be up to 20% since 2021, and that's using And the degree to which I know the British government and others went to, to...
00:23:19.000Our obfuscate findings, including curtailing their own inquiry, shows me that whilst that arc might be bending towards justice, even looking back to the sort of events of the Second World War and the potential serpentine slithering movement of power into new institutions subsequent to that event, I just...
00:23:42.000How this may yet play out, because either right there, you mentioned, there's an election right now underway in your country, and neither candidate is saying, they're not talking about the pandemic!
00:23:56.000Like, you know, Bobby, Bobby is, like Robert Kennedy.
00:24:20.000Still, for me, I feel like, you know, Trump's a sort of an old school, sort of brilliantly individualistic tycoon who thinks in terms of free markets and capitalism and what his virtues are and flaws are.
00:24:36.000We are going to dismantle not only these bureaucratic and governmental institutions, but we are also going to oppose these global corporatist interests.
00:25:01.000Who am I? But what I want to say is, to you, Naomi, because I take your point, it's amazing that someone like Bobby Kennedy, who wrote the book The Real Anthony Fauci, a great precursor to your own book, the Pfizer Papers, Pfizer's Crimes Against Humanity, which none of us would know about if Pfizer had their way, because those files were the documentation...
00:25:21.000The FDA permitted the judge to withhold the release of Pfizer documents for 75 years, so I'm fascinated about what kind of information you've got access to and how you've gotten access to it.
00:25:31.000There's a lot to be heartened by, but like a lot of people, Naomi, probably what I experienced during the pandemic Was a revelation.
00:25:40.000A kind of global Damascene moment where we're like, oh yeah, I knew it, man.
00:25:46.000I knew it because I was paying attention to the assassination of JFK. I was paying attention to the way, like, you know, I'm a Adbusters generation.
00:25:55.000When people would talk about Adbusters was all about, like, Hey, did you know that GM Motors knew that their cars were killing people and they suppressed the information because they knew it would be easier to...
00:26:04.000You know, like, I'm the other great Naomi in your field, Naomi Klein.
00:26:08.000And like, you know, all of them books about quangos and takeovers in Latin America and coups and all that.
00:26:15.000So I'm a person like you from another part of the culture and another part of the counterculture.
00:26:22.000Somewhat, not to your degree of course, equipped with understanding, and again, not to your degree, equipped with some experience on how these things mutate and mould.
00:26:31.000But what I want to, what I suppose I'm getting at is, even though now this is so demonstrably true, Are we going to see Anthony Fauci in jail?
00:26:41.000Are we going to see Pfizer dismantled?
00:26:44.000And are we going to see the FDA disbanded?
00:26:48.000Because that's what your research tells us should happen.
00:27:21.000But the conclusion that you reach, again, I'm going to challenge because it's not that You know, David has overcome Goliath yet.
00:27:33.000It's that, A, I am gonna say, like we've talked about this a little bit before, I don't think this is just a political moment or a material moment or a historical moment.
00:27:45.000So, there are so many examples in history and in scripture of people being completely outmanned, outwomanned, outclassed, up against horrors, unimaginable, But they had, you know, truth on their side, or justice on their side, or righteousness on their side, and they prevailed.
00:28:06.000So, I'm not saying we're going to get there, right?
00:28:09.000But I am saying, like, there's this beautiful parable in Jewish rabbinical lore that you're not expected to complete the work, but neither are you permitted to abstain from it.
00:28:21.000So, we could just throw up our hands and say, what's the point?
00:28:24.000They're never going to send Albert Borla to prison.
00:28:26.000But that's going to guarantee that they're never going to send Albert Brewer to prison.
00:28:30.000The other couple of things I want to say to you are there's a difference between campaigning and governing.
00:28:35.000And right now, no candidate can say, I'm going to go after, effectively, big agriculture or big media.
00:29:59.000And then I'm also going to say, you know, people want their candidates or their presidents and certainly their prime ministers to be magical authoritarian figures who just wave a magic wand.
00:30:10.000And all their wish list gets actualized.
00:30:14.000Even after, you know, your candidate is elected or your party is elected, you have to be active, you have to push if you're going to get justice.
00:30:23.000And I guess the last thing I would say is people are really voting with their bodies, Mr.
00:30:38.000And not only that, but parents as a whole are rethinking the whole 72 injections of their child vaccine schedule.
00:30:46.000I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but it turns out the FDA did nothing to Nothing to protect us.
00:30:52.000Our book, The Pfizer Papers, reveals this.
00:30:54.000And not only that, people across Europe and North America are raising huge questions about whether they're being lied to or if they can trust public health authorities and allopathic medicine.
00:31:05.000So they're looking into herbal remedies.
00:31:07.000They're looking into taking care of their own health.
00:31:53.000My message is, the scale of the task is so enormous that we have to break the frame in order to address it, not operate within the framework.
00:32:05.000And as soon as you say that, You're talking about revolution rather than reform.
00:32:12.000I need to ask you what you mean by that, because that sounds super Marxist.
00:32:19.000You need revolution in consciousness, but I don't know that we can't reform institutions.
00:32:26.000I don't feel that the only type of revolution, even social and political, is Marxist.
00:32:32.000I'm certainly not a Marxist because I'm against, above all else, Naomi, and I'll tell you now that I'm extraordinarily flattered that I am now the subject of the interview, but simultaneously nervous as to...
00:32:47.000But when I'm talking about revolution, I'm not suggesting that we should centralise state power and replace God with the state.
00:32:55.000I'm suggesting we should replace the state with God and that we should, when coming up with political, systemic and institutional systems, ensure that our references have some kind of veracity. ensure that our references have some kind of veracity.
00:33:14.000And that has to be either evolutionary or spiritual.
00:33:20.000While I believe in a loving creator God, I feel that the long legacy of human history contains indicators of how we might organize our societies in the same way as we now appreciate that our long history I feel that the long legacy of human history contains indicators of how we might in it as to how we should eat.
00:33:47.000It's pretty clear that there are reasons we shouldn't eat seed oils and sugars, probably because we didn't evolve in harmony with those type of foods.
00:33:59.000I would say, then, that when we're looking at our primate genealogical neighbours, we might say, well, what is the ideal thing?
00:34:11.000Limit for a human society and a human hierarchy.
00:34:18.000And this is why I say revolution rather than reform.
00:34:21.000I don't see anything there that says, do you know what we should have?
00:34:25.000A centralised government, whether it's free market oriented or state bureaucratic, that's in charge of the lives of either 330 million or 77 million in my country or whatever it is in Finland or Senegal...
00:34:40.000I feel that we should, in the same way that, plainly, technology can now accommodate a bunch of dislocated taxi drivers having a centralized system, we should be deploying that technology to create absolute democracy.
00:34:57.000And likely within that, there would be opt-outs and assemblies and municipality.
00:35:03.000And what would happen, I know this from my own participation in assemblies and at least somewhat anarchist organisations, and I mean anarchist in the positive sense of the word, that the order was derived from a consensus of the governed rather than top-down, is that these things take action.
00:35:23.000Everything slows down because everyone in the organisation or everyone in the community, if they want it, has a right to talk about how we would spend the budget, what we're going to spend on the water systems and what we're going to spend.
00:35:35.000And a lot of people actually can't be bothered, particularly when we've been coached.
00:35:38.000Into slothful nihilism by a few generations of easy commodity, and now it's reached a degree that I believe to be Luciferian in the form of these little black mirrors of endless solipsism and potential limitless masturbation.
00:35:56.000I think with these things on the scene, indeed, a spiritual revolution is precisely what's required.
00:36:05.000Believe, literally, at the core of my personal theology that that is going to happen and that I sort of don't really need to do anything except what I feel guided to do.
00:36:18.000There is going to be a return to glory.
00:36:21.000But the reason I mention it always in a political context is you're a person that's come from being a Democrat and I'm a person that's been, like, you know, been a champagne socialist and a cocaine communist and all of the...
00:36:34.000Various other forms of, yeah, I believe in fairness and fraternity, therefore I think we should take on big business and all that.
00:36:41.000Now I believe that social democracy leads to tyranny and globalism, because I'm watching it happen.
00:36:48.000So now, I'm not holding back this time.
00:36:51.000This time I'm not saying, and yeah, maybe it'll happen as a result of nativism.
00:36:56.000Unless it's a really localised form of nativism.
00:37:00.000Now I think the ideas that have to be pushed are not about, you know, whether or not free market capitalism.
00:37:12.000For those of us that are out there, as you've said, at the vanguard, That's got to be our agenda.
00:37:17.000Our message has got to be how do you maximally implement the spiritual principles that are evident in scripture and facilitate an already unfolding spiritual revolution?
00:37:27.000And how do we acknowledge the limitations of the numerous individuals that we've listed as participants in the American political movement that Please, God, will prevail at the next election, but will likely find themselves wanting in the same way that previous administrations have, because how are they going to get by?
00:37:45.000I don't hear anyone saying, we're banning lobbying, we're not going to take donations, we're leaving NATO, we're not going to have nothing to do with WHO, we're dismantling the FBI, because that sounds like revolution, and people immediately say, are you a communist, and get all scared, and I'm not surprised.
00:38:01.000So, like, how do you, you know, I'm not, I don't...
00:38:04.000It seems ridiculous, because what am I doing?
00:38:05.000I'm not trying to spur you on or question you.
00:38:13.000And now I just wonder how we get it in people's heads.
00:38:17.000And obviously, I want to promote your book, because one way is they can read the Pfizer papers, Pfizer's Crimes Against Humanity, which is already a best-selling book.
00:38:24.000And if you read that, you're going to feel like, instead of people going, you're a conspiracy theorist, you'll be able to say...
00:38:29.000Oh yeah, well, let me tell you about the attack on the reproductive system, that women suffer vaccine-related adverse events at a 3-to-1 ratio.
00:38:36.000Or, oh yeah, Pfizer knew by February 28th, 2021, just 90 days after the public rollout of their COVID vaccine, that its injection was linked to myriad adverse events, and yet the media continued, etc., etc.
00:38:49.000I mean, so arming people with the facts is so important.
00:38:51.000I'm just saying, how do we ensure that people draw the conclusion that ought to be drawn from this brilliant work?
00:39:00.000Well, I have an answer, but I'm not sure if we've come to the end of our time.
00:39:06.000I think it would be a little unchivalrous for me to speak that long to a person as credited and decorated as you and then say, we've run out of time.
00:39:40.000And what's happened really in the last year at warp speed is that Britain's institutions that could have led To reform and regeneration have been completely shut down.
00:39:55.000I mean, there really is no functional freedom of speech anymore in Britain.
00:39:58.000People are being arrested for thought crimes.
00:40:02.000In essence, I'm not telling you anything you don't know better than I do.
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00:41:41.000You know, my publisher in Britain said I had to retroactively censor a book I wrote in 2012, and if I didn't censor it, I would be held in contempt of court in Britain.
00:42:04.000So rather than go along with censoring a 12-year-old book, or yeah, a 14-year-old book, a 12-year-old book, I withdraw my titles from Britain.
00:42:15.000But the point is, journalists are being targeted in this way.
00:42:20.000You know, nonfiction writers are being targeted.
00:42:43.000Like we look, we have something called Bill Cam on Daily Cloud, our site where you can look up Any state or federal bill and affect it, you can't find British legislation.
00:43:11.000And really, if I were in Britain and really in lots of Europe right now, except for those dissident countries like Hungary and certain parties in Germany and the Netherlands, I would really feel like, what can I do?
00:43:23.000You know, all I can do is turn to God.
00:43:27.000But, you know, in America, thank God, and this is why I'm not agreeing with you that we need a wholesale kind of, you know, re-envisioning, God forbid, an anarchist meeting, even in the best And I know the history of anarchism.
00:43:40.000I know there were wonderful anarchists in 1910, you know, but those meetings are not the answer, Mr.
00:43:52.000We actually have really beautiful institutions on a state level and a local level in the United States.
00:44:00.000And as the federal government has become more and more tyrannical, you are seeing this blooming of local governance, exactly what you want, you know, at the state and municipal level in many, many states.
00:44:13.000So I'm just like putting that out there because There are models, right?
00:44:17.000And even in Britain, I mean, if people re-educated themselves about what is a council, how do you really run for a council?
00:44:25.000How do you really reform the parliamentary system?
00:44:31.000Then you could remake Albion the way we're remaking the United States.
00:44:38.000But anyway, the one way that I am a globalist is that I believe in freedom for everybody beyond my own evident and deeply entrenched national identity as an Englishman.
00:44:52.000But to your point, albeit a brief one, about anarchism, I'm not sort of suggesting dusty old Dostoevsky-esque rooms or sort of like sort of a kind of like sort of fuddy-duddy stuff.
00:45:07.000I'm thinking what I'm actually, if there's a word for it, is localism anarchism.
00:45:12.000And you're right, maybe many of the institutions already exist.
00:45:16.000There are councils, there are boroughs, in the same way that federalism, you know, federalization in your nation...
00:45:23.000Or be creating maximal electoral integrity and freedom, and somehow that appears to be easily overwhelmed.
00:45:34.000Mostly, it seems to me at least, by the total management of the information sphere.
00:45:40.000It's reached an extraordinary degree now, and it's That kind of voidable, it almost gets to the point where you feel like you might end up making the same points and reaching the same conclusion on every show that I do.
00:45:54.000When I watch Trump getting called Hitler because he's holding a rally at Madison Square Gardens and there was a nationalist rally that was supportive of the Nazis there in 1939.
00:46:12.000When I was talking about the corruption of the legacy media, a friend of mine who I respect and like said, yeah, but it was the legacy media that exposed pedophilia in the Catholic Church.
00:46:21.000You know, there's been a movie about it.
00:46:24.000Or it was the legacy media that led to the reopening of the Epstein case.
00:46:29.000And what I feel like, and particularly with the latter, well, what's going to happen then?
00:46:34.000The conclusions I'm drawing from what we've learned about Jeffrey Epstein is not, well, everything seems to be working well and people are being held accountable.
00:46:47.000it it appears to reveal that there's a sort of set of relationships and some pretty macabre interests at the very top of society that are bare minimum ensuring that no one is colluding with uh with justice when it comes to explaining exactly what might have been going on and that it's possible to have someone murdered while they're in prison get all of the security tapes removed and yeah i so i suppose
00:47:13.000um like what i am wondering about naomi is like whether or not out the systems that delivered to us this degree of corruption are themselves capable of addressing and even redressing And I wonder too, if maybe you're right, maybe if there were a kind of...
00:47:35.000Revolution at the level of the individual that amounted to a kind of a sort of a ubiquitous interpersonal awakening where each individual became sort of aware.
00:47:46.000Because something like this, this is pretty esoteric.
00:47:48.000I don't mean me, I mean what you're saying is pretty esoteric in terms of Look at the degree of data that's available.
00:47:57.0001,233 deaths in the first three months of the drug being publicly available.
00:48:20.000We're sort of like somewhat on the side of good, talking about it, and that you yourself were deplatformed in 2021, as I've touched upon because you talked about its impact in particular on...
00:48:33.000The fact that that kind of information now is widely available, that you're getting people in MAGA hats, driving pickup trucks, shirtless, aware of this kind of stuff now, that people are now not just intuitively rebelling and rejecting the state and its apparatus in both media and Tech and in the judiciary.
00:49:10.000There's a means now that Joe Sixpack can have an understanding of politics and therefore corruption that is going to be adverse to our continuing interests.
00:49:23.000No wonder there's the ongoing demonisation of Trump.
00:49:26.000No wonder there's the ongoing smearing of any outspoken opponent of these sets of regimes.
00:49:32.000And no wonder, too, that there is this sort of amplification of what's been a trend, I suppose, from the 20th century onwards to ensure that we remain deeply individualistic, narcissistic, solipsistic, lost in consumerism and even hedonism.
00:49:51.000And for me, the key point, which we've only briefly touched upon, so perhaps we can dwell here for a moment, is the idea that there is no God.
00:49:57.000And if there is no God, then the state can lay claim to the attributes we might have given God once.
00:50:05.000This is what we're beginning to see, again, because of the type of technology that could provide us with the sort of revolution that I'm sort of on the precipice of imagining even.
00:50:25.000Unity but decentralization when it comes to opposing, inverted commas, common enemies.
00:50:31.000But if this revolution were widespread, we wouldn't have any.
00:50:35.000Although, you know, I know what utopia means for real now, so I'm not naive about it.
00:50:40.000So I wonder if you could tell us a little more about how what you have learned from this has made you feel...
00:50:48.000That a spiritual solution is required to the problem that we are circling.
00:50:55.000Well, I guess I feel that the revolution you want took place in 1848 in Europe with the kind of invention of the modern secular nation-state, with representative democracy and equality of citizens, at least male citizens.
00:51:17.000Because I've looked and looked and looked, Mr.
00:51:20.000at different forms of social organization and government.
00:51:24.000And really, truly, and the memory of this has been wiped out in Europe and Britain in one generation, but really there is nothing better than a nation state with clear boundaries and representational government and freedom of the press and human rights. but really there is nothing better than a nation state There's nothing better.
00:51:43.000No one has ever, ever, ever come up with anything better.
00:51:46.000And when people know how their democracy really works, which in Britain, that memory has been erased, right?
00:51:56.000People have no idea how it's supposed to work.
00:51:58.000As I mentioned, they can't even find out what the laws are, right?
00:52:02.000But when people really know how it works and use it, right, make use of it, there's no better way to organize human society.
00:52:33.000Now, that knowledge has been mystified and wiped out, and you've been propagandized, and we have too, that, you know, you have to be an expert to understand the laws, or you have to be an expert to understand science, or you have to be an expert To understand how Parliament works.
00:52:51.000A real working democracy is pretty simple.
00:52:54.000And so that's what people in Britain, all over Europe, you know, Canada, God knows Australia, New Zealand, the United States have to go back to, we know what to do.
00:53:05.000The problem is that they Took away that most perfect form of knowledge, which is decentralized, right?
00:53:12.000When you've got citizens actually engaging in their own representative democracy, their own parliamentary processes.
00:53:19.000I mean, you guys used to have every single parliamentary debate You know, available, written up.
00:53:52.000And it really isn't that hard to get back to.
00:53:55.000It's quite easy, and there are really interesting people in Europe, like Christine Anderson, an MEP, who are bringing back parliamentary processes and putting them in the hands of Europeans.
00:54:08.000You know, there are some people in Britain who are trying to do it.
00:54:42.000And the reason I say that is that history is full of horrible things that are done whenever one group or one individual thinks he or she has a spiritual answer that everyone else then has to comply with.
00:54:55.000And I say that especially as a Jewish woman, that You know, people are always telling Jews that they have the wrong spiritual idea, and so they're going to be gassed or, you know, inquisitioned or exiled or, you know, whatever, because our spiritual ideas are not the same as the dominant ideas.
00:55:13.000But I think the question is spiritual because, I mean, this is a whole other conversation, but clearly what's happening isn't just the collapse of Some corrupt systems and the regeneration of new systems.
00:55:26.000What's happening is that we're living in multiple dimensions on one planet.
00:55:29.000Well, I want to have that conversation.
00:55:32.000I mean, I've got questions, but what do you mean we're living in multi-dimensions on one planet?
00:55:39.000I mean, I've really wrestled with this quite a bit, and of course I have no smoking gun, but it seems clear that 20 years ago we were all sharing a dimension.
00:55:50.000Essentially, except for, like, psychopaths or people with brain damage.
00:55:56.000And we were pretty much sharing a reality.
00:56:20.000Our book, The Pfizer Papers, explains to some degree the physiology of that because these injections actually cause brain damage and they create more binary thinking, yes, and less impulse control.
00:56:32.000And that explains why friends of yours can't engage in nuanced conversations anymore, freak out when their beliefs are challenged.
00:56:40.000That's brain damage from the lipid nanoparticles.
00:56:44.000All of that aside, we're literally, you know, we lived through a time in which half of America was okay or half of Britain or 90% of Britain was okay with shunning and dehumanizing people because of their medical status and euthanizing them in Canada, right?
00:57:14.000They're no longer the same moral reality, but they're probably not even the same kind of metaphysical reality.
00:57:21.000And now, all I can conclude, and as you mentioned, the highest levels of everything are being revealed as Satan-worshipping pedophiles, right?
00:57:31.000There's no way to say that nicely, right?
00:57:33.000I thought that only crazy people believed that.
00:57:36.000I thought it was a lunatic, fringed Insane thing to think.
00:57:41.000But over and over and over again, you know, you mentioned Epstein, you know, Diddy, like the tunnels, like the trafficking.
00:57:49.000340,000 kids are missing in America, right?
00:58:02.000You know, the Manchester Bull, I mean, it's just absolutely everywhere.
00:58:07.000The kind of Baal worship, Satanism, you know, you don't have to be crazy to notice it.
00:58:14.000So I guess what I concluded is, and I've been around, you know, wealthy, elite, influential people my whole adult life, just as a weird fact of my biography.
00:58:30.000So if they're worshiping Satan, right, or engaging in weird culty behavior, it's because it's effective.
00:58:37.000So as a result, I came to believe in God much more literally in the last few years than I did before, and in prayer, because this negativity must be aimed at something.
00:58:48.000You know, what we haven't gotten a chance to talk about, but I'll just throw it out there, is that, you know, the centerpiece of the Pfizer papers is an intentional Attack on human sexuality and especially on women and babies.
00:59:00.000They killed the babies and they knew it.
00:59:02.000They poisoned the breast milk and they knew it.
00:59:04.000They damaged the placentas and they knew it.
00:59:06.000They lowered the sperm count and they knew it.
00:59:08.000They have a chart of the babies they're injuring.
00:59:13.000They have a chart of the women's menstrual cycles that they're disrupting.
00:59:17.000They concluded that babies were dying in utero due to maternal exposure to the vaccine and This is the document that went to Dr.
00:59:25.000Walensky, and then she gave a press conference saying, you've got to, you know, get a vaccine, a COVID vaccine before, during, or after your pregnancy.
00:59:39.000And you look at Borla, and you look at, you know, the fact that they knew they were doing this, which if you read the Pfizer papers, you cannot conclude otherwise.
00:59:50.000And this 13 to 20% drop in live births.
00:59:53.000So I guess what I'm trying to say is they tried to kill us.
01:00:08.000This is not the first time humanity was faced with someone, you know, an existential battle between light and darkness, or God kind of saying, you know what, I'm done, right?
01:00:20.000So I guess my point is, they didn't kill us.
01:00:23.000You know, we were injured, a lot of people died, there's going to be horrible struggles with fertility, but we survived and the truth came out.
01:00:31.000So I guess what I'm trying to say is that's the spiritual question.
01:00:34.000Now we have to face the fact that we're living on a planet with reptili, I don't mean they're reptiles, but they're not human.
01:00:41.000They're anti-human in their orientation.
01:01:03.000Again, at the beginning of our conversation, we talked about how, as can be evidenced in your book about the FISA papers, FISA's Crimes Against Humanity, that primarily you are an empiricist working with demonstrable facts and rendering them into narratives that are...
01:01:31.000But while talking about that, we end up almost by default and necessarily talking about Satanism, occultism, the centerpiece being anti-life, some sort of dreadful inverted La Pieta that is both anti-woman-mother and And broken man and infant, all of it is all sort of under human attack.
01:01:59.000But if man is made in God's image, you can't attack our kind without attacking God.
01:02:05.000And in fact, that appears to be the primary motivation the more that you talk about it.
01:02:12.000That's difficult for a number of reasons.
01:02:13.000One, because part of secularism, indeed, the secularism you, a moment ago, Naomi, endorsed as the only route out of this, a kind of form of nationalism that was representative.
01:02:24.000You said it had within it the sort of the seeds, or not even seeds, the kind of format for the freedom we're looking for.
01:02:34.000And that's part of why the secularism itself concerns me.
01:02:39.000And secondarily, although it might not necessarily be an essential aspect of secularism, although doesn't secularism mean the separation above all else?
01:02:49.000I mean, I've got quite a few other things to say about this, but I would also say...
01:03:32.000Thank you, thanks for the clarification.
01:03:34.000Because the other part of what I'm saying is that when, not so much me, because I think people have always thought I was a bit mad, but when someone like you starts saying stuff that Alex Jones was saying 20, 30 years ago and David Icke was saying, and these are still people that are pariahs whose names aren't mentioned in polite society,
01:03:53.000When we find ourselves saying, it feels like there's some weird occultist, satanic component to this, and even if you can't produce videotapes of people worshipping Moloch or whatever, it's certainly, as you said, at the centre of the Pfizer documents and agenda, you might say, appears to be something anti-human.
01:04:17.000They can't, when I say they, like the Walenskis et al, they can't be like, looking at that, going, right, what kills babies, yes, it's toxic in milk, okay, we're still going to mandate it.
01:04:34.000So perhaps that's another aspect of what you're calling a kind of inter-dimensionality, because there's a couple of ways of looking at that inter-dimensionality.
01:04:42.000One is The oft-cited information silos that would necessarily emerge in a more pronounced way in a social media world, but existed anyway, I suppose, in a regular media world.
01:04:55.000Some people are watching the BBC, some people are reading The Guardian, some people are reading The Financial Times.
01:04:59.000And probably all of those organisations have just, in various ways, capitulated to globalism and are desperately straining and stretching to have some credibility.
01:05:11.000That's why I think they try to get the low-hanging fruits available around identity politics and miss the mark so dreadfully.
01:05:26.000Oh, so perhaps beyond the sort of silo ideas, we have different intravenous tubes of information, it's like a different dimension in the mind also.
01:05:58.000Do the people at the Times or the various broadcast networks or whoever's been involved in your cancellation or people at Logically AI or those organisations, I feel like in a kind of...
01:06:09.000Do the Russians love their children too way?
01:06:39.000Walensky receive the eight-page pregnancy and lactation report that we reveal in the Kaiser Papers book that shows that children are dying in utero due to maternal exposure to the vaccine and then go into a White House press conference and tell pregnant women in America that they need to get vaccinated?
01:06:59.000And then, by the way, three days after we published that report, She resigned.
01:07:05.000So I guess what I'm trying to say is there used to be murderers, right?
01:07:17.000But they were the exception to the human project, and they were weird and marginal, and they were recognized as criminals.
01:07:23.000And the goal of all of humanity, at least in the West, right, or at least in kind of the advanced societies, everyone understood, oh, in a hospital you try to save lives, you don't try to kill people.
01:07:35.000Oh, you don't kill the baby, you try to keep the baby alive.
01:07:39.000You know, you don't euthanize the elder.
01:07:42.000You try to keep people from being sick.
01:07:45.000You try to make them healthy if you're a healer.
01:07:47.000You don't try to prolong their illness or poison them.
01:07:50.000All of that has changed, and that's why I'm saying we're living in a reality that isn't the same reality that it was in 2018, 2019.
01:07:59.000I mean, I remember March 8th, I think, I was sitting in London, 2020, and I felt like this giant, looming presence about to descend on the world.
01:08:10.000I'd never felt anything like it before.
01:08:16.000Brand or Russell, whatever you want me to call you, the fact is now, and the Pfeiffer Papers reveals this, it's not just this murderer over there, this crazy sadist over there.
01:08:25.000It's networks and networks of criminals and monsters who all are working together as if it's all perfectly normal and positive, right?
01:08:40.000So we're at the end of what language can manage, right?
01:08:44.000We don't have the language for this, except to say, maybe Satan really is real.
01:08:48.000Maybe people can really lose their souls.
01:08:50.000Maybe they really do get signed up for another team, which is the anti-human team.
01:08:55.000They might not even realize it, right?
01:08:57.000I'm kind of getting a chill while I'm saying that.
01:08:59.000And that's why I keep thinking about these pre- Satanic dark forces like Malach and Baal and Asherah.
01:09:07.000There's an essay I wrote called, Have the Ancient Gods Returned?
01:09:10.000And there's a really interesting book by a rabbi slash pastor Jonathan Cahn called The Return of the Gods, which posits that these, you know, these pre-satanic kind of, that the dark forces that the Israelites struggled against are back.
01:09:25.000And that kind of makes sense to me because we did have this reprieve for 4,000 years, right, with the Judeo-Christian project.
01:09:33.000Well, you know, we kind of abandoned the Judeo-Christian project and covenant, and why would the entities with which Job fought and Abraham fought and Moses fought and David fought, you know, these Baalistic temptations, these Molokai, you know, anti-child, anti-family, Just pure sadism forces, right?
01:10:10.000Well, that's what people used to do when they threw their children into the fiery pit in front of the idol of Moloch.
01:10:17.000They thought that was normal and good, and they were getting power from it.
01:10:21.000And that is a reality that humans have lived with.
01:10:24.000So I think something broke at about 2020 that was a kind of sacred security net, almost, that we had protect us in effect for about 4,000 years.
01:10:37.000And it broke because of our own carelessness and, you know, sloth and moral turpitude.
01:10:42.000And in the breaking of that, you know, these dark forces Have stepped onto our planet, maybe from somewhere else.
01:11:05.000So, you know, I'm turning my back for a while, and there's plenty of demons from other dimensions that are going to walk around looking like they're people at the World Economic Forum, you know?
01:11:18.000And you'll see what that's like to totally turn away from God and all the things I gave you.
01:11:25.000Certainly the rhetoric and even the discourse on both sides, even from people who would blush and maybe even balk at the thought of participating in such a metaphysical dialogue, it's taken on those kind of inflections and that kind of cadence, e.g.
01:11:54.000When I consider what little I know and am learning yet about scripture, as well as your excellent and enjoyable references, and I want to read that essay about pre-satanic forces and Baal worship and an interesting etymological finding perhaps around Baalistic.
01:12:14.000I wonder if that's part of the continuum.
01:12:21.000It's not as if Christian theology isn't full of in Ephesians through Paul, in Revelations through John, and through our Lord and Saviour Himself.
01:12:39.000So as you chart this territory, it's, well, yeah, this is not entirely unexpected.
01:12:47.000We might be describing the bureaucracies and the politics and the practices and management or mismanagement of that, but it's certainly spiritual, perhaps above all else.
01:13:23.000Part of what I find challenging, Naomi, about progressivism...
01:13:29.000And I don't mean cultural progressivism so much as the idea that we are on an upward teleological trajectory as a species is that we discard as it falls away like whenever an An object is launched into orbit.
01:13:49.000The encumbrances of who we really are.
01:13:53.000That it isn't a million years ago that people tossed infants into a pit and engaged in brown sacrifice.
01:13:59.000Suddenly not, if you're in the Clinton family, it could have been this morning.
01:14:03.000I mean, it's interesting to recognise that level of negligence and the potential that actually what we're dealing with is It's certainly difficult to use a phrase or an idea at least that you used.
01:14:18.000It's at the limits of what we can achieve through ordinary semantics and through the material and rational language.
01:14:38.000That's what I mean when I say we've come to the limits of language.
01:14:40.000When I say there are multiple dimensions and beings, it seems, from different realities morally, inhabiting the planet all at once, I don't mean it literally, except insofar as consciousness is reality.
01:14:56.000I think quantum physics has established that.
01:15:01.000We build a reality with our consciousness.
01:15:04.000Well, we used to kind of share a moral consciousness and now that's been completely fragmented and we're bumping up against moral consciousnesses that, you know, seem to have crawled right out of circles of Dante's Inferno.
01:15:20.000Yeah, it makes sense, particularly when you take this route.
01:15:24.000Well, Naomi, thank you so much for an incredible conversation.
01:15:27.000I remember the last conversation we had at least seemed to me to be pretty profound, but subsequent to the writing and publishing of your new book that you've edited, The Pfizer papers, Pfizer's Crimes Against Humanity, it seems that, oddly, given the practical nature of that endeavour, the revelations seem to be spiritual, but I suppose spirituality, at essence, would be practical, really, because, you know, we've got to live here for a while.
01:16:11.000Join us tomorrow where I'll be joined by Dana White.
01:16:14.000Who do you want to hear from on the eve of the general election?
01:16:18.000More than Dana White, one of Trump's closest supporters and a man that simply from his imagination was able to concoct a sort of real-life worldwide wrestling federation.
01:16:30.000I mean, isn't it amazing to think that without Dana White do you have Joe Rogan?
01:16:34.000If you watch that Vince McMahon documentary, so imagine that.
01:16:40.000I'm talking about the UFC, but I'm talking about what it maybe indicates about Dana White as a man and what it indicates about our culture.
01:16:46.000We'll be talking about that as well as the election tomorrow with Dana White.